[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Police and Sheriff Reports 2/19/07 From the weekend police log: Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield reported theft in the fifth degree at the MUM building 140, room 322. Sergiy Gudoshyn reported serious assault at MUM building 143, room 208. The incident is under investigation, and warrants were requested for Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield. Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB!
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On Feb 19, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Mr. Magoo wrote: Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC And what does that stand for...toilet consciousness? Teddy consciousness? Sal
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr. Magoo Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:02 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Police and Sheriff Reports 2/19/07 From the weekend police log: Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield reported theft in the fifth degree at the MUM building 140, room 322. Sergiy Gudoshyn reported serious assault at MUM building 143, room 208. The incident is under investigation, and warrants were requested for Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield. Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMA Is this indicated by the theft, the violence, or both? Would other forms of wrong action indicate the level of Samadhi to which one had transcended or failed to transcend?
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On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Mr. Magoo wrote: Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB! Yes, that's true. Most people get to the gap between thoughts and think it's PC...primarily because they've been conditioned to believe that by others.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Mr. Magoo wrote: Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC And what does that stand for...toilet consciousness? Teddy consciousness? Sal Ahhh that means, for you, toilet consciousness!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this indicated by the theft, the violence, or both? Would other forms of wrong action indicate the level of Samadhi to which one had transcended or failed to transcend? So, you mean, you don't realize that Saints and those of high consciousness don't steal? but are naturally good? The by-product of God contact is goodness, is it not?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Mr. Magoo wrote: Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB! Yes, that's true. Most people get to the gap between thoughts and think it's PC...primarily because they've been conditioned to believe that by others. Binjo.at least Vaj is a clear thinker!
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr. Magoo Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this indicated by the theft, the violence, or both? Would other forms of wrong action indicate the level of Samadhi to which one had transcended or failed to transcend? So, you mean, you don't realize that Saints and those of high consciousness don't steal? but are naturally good? The by-product of God contact is goodness, is it not? That's what I always thought, but it seems that saints, or purported saints, do all kinds of shady stuff. The Puranas are full of such stories. For contemporary examples, you need look no further than MMY.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr. Magoo Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 12:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Is this indicated by the theft, the violence, or both? Would other forms of wrong action indicate the level of Samadhi to which one had transcended or failed to transcend? So, you mean, you don't realize that Saints and those of high consciousness don't steal? but are naturally good? The by-product of God contact is goodness, is it not? That's what I always thought, but it seems that saints, or purported saints, do all kinds of shady stuff. The Puranas are full of such stories. For contemporary examples, you need look no further than MMY. True MMY has been duplicitous, and that could be an indication of his level of consciousness, however, since I am NOT enlightened I find it hard to evaluate him. He will probably always be an enigma in my book, he certainly enlightened me with TM, from which I will always be grateful, though sometimes I am baffled by his behavior and therefore think he merits some of the criticism he gets!
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Mr. Magoo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Police and Sheriff Reports 2/19/07 From the weekend police log: Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield reported theft in the fifth degree at the MUM building 140, room 322. Sergiy Gudoshyn reported serious assault at MUM building 143, room 208. The incident is under investigation, and warrants were requested for Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield. Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB! It can take seven or more lifetimes to reach enlightenment once embarking on the path. Some of the folks who learned TM were not on their first lifetime on the path, nor even second or third. That's why there is such a wide range of experience. And yes someone who almost made it in their last lifetime might even read a mantra in a book and pop into samadhi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: Police and Sheriff Reports 2/19/07 From the weekend police log: Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield reported theft in the fifth degree at the MUM building 140, room 322. Sergiy Gudoshyn reported serious assault at MUM building 143, room 208. The incident is under investigation, and warrants were requested for Yuriy Chernenko, 29, of Fairfield. Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB! Heh.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Mr. Magoo wrote: Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB! Yes, that's true. Most people get to the gap between thoughts and think it's PC...primarily because they've been conditioned to believe that by others. Whereas YOU, Vaj, know the real thing, because...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Is this indicated by the theft, the violence, or both? Would other forms of wrong action indicate the level of Samadhi to which one had transcended or failed to transcend? So, you mean, you don't realize that Saints and those of high consciousness don't steal? but are naturally good? The by-product of God contact is goodness, is it not? Relative to what, and in response to what other factors?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Feb 19, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Mr. Magoo wrote: Just goes to show that most TM'ers don't transcend to savikalpa samadhi, that takes time! My guess is that most don't even get to the first stage of withdrawal which is the 'muladhara chakra'! Doesn't mean TM doesn't work just that it's purported 'immeditate' benefits are exaggerated, such as transcending to pure TC...GMAB! Yes, that's true. Most people get to the gap between thoughts and think it's PC...primarily because they've been conditioned to believe that by others. Binjo.at least Vaj is a clear thinker! Of course, you have transcended these conditioning issues...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry asked about life in Fairfield so thought I would summarize the latest happenings. Uh, thanks, but I was actually looking to hear about the neat aspects of Fairfield. I thought it would be 1) fun to hear about these neat places, because I might actually drop by sometime in the next year and would put them on my Don't Miss list, and 2) it might give people here the chance to write about something positive, something they love. Given the nature of the replies so far, I have to think (yet again), Silly me. Two former Purusha guys have died of cancer in the last two weeks. One former Purusha deeply depressed and threatened with eviction from the all aluminum ideal trailer park on campus took a very messy way out the exit. One other former purusha is locked in the phsych ward in Iowa City for trashing his trailer and then starting on the trailer of the lady who lived door. One meditator pulls a bungled bank robbery and is caught almost immediately. Other than that not much happening here. More pundits are coming. Look what more we might have to look forward too. No names are given in order to preserve the privacy of any who might care. Tom
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For a knower of the field, anyplace is a Fair field. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, thanks, but I was actually looking to hear about the neat aspects of Fairfield. I thought it would be 1) fun to hear about these neat places, because I might actually drop by sometime in the next year and would put them on my Don't Miss list, and 2) it might give people here the chance to write about something positive, something they love. Given the nature of the replies so far, I have to think (yet again), Silly me. Cafe Paradiso has the best coffee in town and often great acoustic concerts in the evenings. Best pizza at Revelations where you can run into most anyone as well. Art Walk on 1st fridays of each month are usually loaded with activities in addition to the art viewing, esp fun in good weather. Check the Weekly Reader which comes out on Thurs for everything going on during the weekend, usually a good concert or lecture/seminar on weekends. Tune into the new radio station KRUU at 100.1 for eclectic music mix. Give any of us here a call when you get here for more exclusive info.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of markmeredith2002 Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:27 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, thanks, but I was actually looking to hear about the neat aspects of Fairfield. I thought it would be 1) fun to hear about these neat places, because I might actually drop by sometime in the next year and would put them on my Don't Miss list, and 2) it might give people here the chance to write about something positive, something they love. Given the nature of the replies so far, I have to think (yet again), Silly me. Cafe Paradiso has the best coffee in town and often great acoustic concerts in the evenings. Best pizza at Revelations where you can run into most anyone as well. Art Walk on 1st fridays of each month are usually loaded with activities in addition to the art viewing, esp fun in good weather. Check the Weekly Reader which comes out on Thurs for everything going on during the weekend, usually a good concert or lecture/seminar on weekends. Weekly Reader online: http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/ Tune into the new radio station KRUU at 100.1 for eclectic music mix. Give any of us here a call when you get here for more exclusive info. KRUU online: http://kruufm.com/ Listen: http://kruufm.com/node/138 Archives: http://kruufm.com/station/archives/4 (Many more shows will be archived in the future.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
Hello everybody, I'm very glad that people are reporting these things because I've had no idea about what really is going on in Fairfield. That is so trajic. Its sad. I'm living in Ontario, Canada and have been a fan of TM and the whole idea of Maharishis programmes being made available for world peace. I'm young man at 32 and have a baby on the way in a month and a three and a half year old daughter. I suffer with depression almost chronically. I tried the TM technique years ago and it didn't work well. It started really screwing me up. Thanks for putting that information up online. What would be your advice to me about allowing my 3 and a half year old daughter to take the technique along with my wife? I'm not sure about the movement now. I won't do TM because I smoke marijuana and the two don't mix I'm told so I don't know what to do? If this stuff is true then its all very, very sad isn't it? I must confess that I haven't read any other posts and just joined this group a couple of days ago. Please keep the comments up about the goings on in Fairfield both good and bad. Its so important for people like me who don't know anything except what he's read via propaganda. Its very important to me and many others to not screw up our lives and if this kind of thing goes on often then all is not well with Fairfield and people need to know before they decide to live or move to Fairfield. FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry asked about life in Fairfield so thought I would summarize the latest happenings. Two former Purusha guys have died of cancer in the last two weeks. One former Purusha deeply depressed and threatened with eviction from the all aluminum ideal trailer park on campus took a very messy way out the exit. One other former purusha is locked in the phsych ward in Iowa City for trashing his trailer and then starting on the trailer of the lady who lived door. One meditator pulls a bungled bank robbery and is caught almost immediately. Other than that not much happening here. More pundits are coming. Look what more we might have to look forward too. No names are given in order to preserve the privacy of any who might care. Tom
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcus G Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I'm very glad that people are reporting these things because I've had no idea about what really is going on in Fairfield. That is so trajic. Its sad. I'm living in Ontario, Canada and have been a fan of TM and the whole idea of Maharishis programmes being made available for world peace. Marcus, one thing to bear in mind when reading this forum is that a lot of the participants have been *very* involved with the TM movement for many years. Most of them have distanced them- selves from the silliness that has overcome the organization, but many still feel positive about TM itself and the benefits they have received from it. The things Tom mentioned in his recent post *are* tragic, but in my opinion they reflect a lack in the TM organization more than they do a problem with meditation in general, or even with TM in particular. A lot of people basically devoted their *lives* to Maharishi and the TM movement, working for little or no pay for decades, and now they're gettin' old (as Neil Young said so well) and finding themselves with no Social Security (because they never worked at real jobs enough to earn any), no medical benefits, and no savings. And they're finding that the organization they gave their lives to doesn't give a shit about them. Yes, it's sad, but I don't think it's a condemnation of TM per se or meditation per se, just a condemnation of an organization that never had much compassion in the first place and has developed less and less of it as the years went by. snip What would be your advice to me about allowing my 3 and a half year old daughter to take the technique along with my wife? I'm not sure about the movement now. I won't do TM because I smoke marijuana and the two don't mix I'm told so I don't know what to do? I no longer practice TM and haven't for many decades. And I no longer remember at what age kids are allowed to learn the walking technique that was once avail- able. It's up to you, of course, as to whether you'd like your wife and daughter to learn, but if it's been a few years since you checked the *prices*, you might be in for a rude shock. If you do a Web search in your area, I'm pretty sure you will find some other forms of meditation (most of which, in my opinion, are just as effective and just as valuable as TM) for a lot less money, and carrying a lot less baggage. As for the marijuana thing, I don't see that the two don't mix. I honestly believe that the injunction on smoking grass for two weeks prior to learning TM was mainly a power trip on the part of the TM organ- ization, combined with a desire to distance itself from the hippie phenomenon that was prevalent when TM first became popular. That said, grass and other psychedelics *do* affect your consciousness, and thus will have some effect on meditation. But I know a LOT of people who meditate *and* smoke grass, and have suffered no ill effects from doing so. If this stuff is true then its all very, very sad isn't it? Yes, it is. The incidents Tom posted speak of a lack of compassion and a lack of caring in Maharishi and the organization he founded towards those who made it what it is today. I must confess that I haven't read any other posts and just joined this group a couple of days ago. Keep reading, but do bear in mind what I said about the nature of this group. This is *not* a group that is full of gung-ho TM advocates. There's quite a mix. I'm sure that some of the more gung-ho types can recommend other discussion groups that would provide more of a positive slant on TM and the organization that teaches it. Please keep the comments up about the goings on in Fairfield both good and bad. Its so important for people like me who don't know anything except what he's read via propaganda. Its very important to me and many others to not screw up our lives and if this kind of thing goes on often then all is not well with Fairfield and people need to know before they decide to live or move to Fairfield. There are many points of view on these subjects. You will probably find all of them here. My advice is to not take *any* of them as gospel, but merely as input. And then form your own conclusions. The credo on the main page of this forum says it all, IMO. This is a group for people who are not afraid to challenge dogma and the things they have been told to believe, no matter who told them. Welcome. FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: Barry asked about life in Fairfield so thought I would summarize the latest happenings. Two former Purusha guys have died of cancer in the last two weeks. One former Purusha deeply depressed and threatened with eviction from the all aluminum ideal trailer park on campus took a very messy way out the exit. One other former purusha is locked in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcus G Walsh walsh_marcus@ wrote: Hello everybody, I'm very glad that people are reporting these things because I've had no idea about what really is going on in Fairfield. That is so trajic. Its sad. I'm living in Ontario, Canada and have been a fan of TM and the whole idea of Maharishis programmes being made available for world peace. Marcus, one thing to bear in mind when reading this forum is that a lot of the participants have been *very* involved with the TM movement for many years. Most of them have distanced them- selves from the silliness that has overcome the organization, but many still feel positive about TM itself and the benefits they have received from it. Or more to the point; they never really took TM, Maharishi or His knowledge very seriously after all. And now they are ranting about Crowns and Raam. Pathetic really.
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TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry asked about life in Fairfield so thought I would summarize the latest happenings. Uh, thanks, but I was actually looking to hear about the neat aspects of Fairfield. I thought it would be 1) fun to hear about these neat places, because I might actually drop by sometime in the next year and would put them on my Don't Miss list, and 2) it might give people here the chance to write about something positive, something they love. Given the nature of the replies so far, I have to think (yet again), Silly me. Maybe this is like Seattlites saying it rains there all the time, you will need a boat with oars to get around and you will grow webs between your toes if you move there etc. etc. This was a campaign that started back in the 70's as the buzz started that Seattle was a neat place to live. Yes, it rains frequently there but it is not a deluge as the Olympic mountains take away much of the deluge precipitation unlike the S.F. Bay Area that gets monsoons because there are no mountains to trim away some of that rain. But the locals in Seattle will tell you now it is gridlock most of the time and they aren't kidding, they need more freeways but there is no place to put them. Having been to Fairfield it is a quirkly little town in the corn fields. It kinda neat because of the new agey populace and reminds me a bit of a little Sonoma, CA. It still has that friday night lights feel as most rural towns get wrapped around the local high school sports teams. I may have to pay a visit again as the friend I visited before just moved back again. But it is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. Part of that is growing up in a rural area as well as spending part of the 1980's in that area again. I kind of like my suburban amenities (for a tech guy like me that is have a candy store like Fry's nearby). Two former Purusha guys have died of cancer in the last two weeks. One former Purusha deeply depressed and threatened with eviction from the all aluminum ideal trailer park on campus took a very messy way out the exit. One other former purusha is locked in the phsych ward in Iowa City for trashing his trailer and then starting on the trailer of the lady who lived door. One meditator pulls a bungled bank robbery and is caught almost immediately. Other than that not much happening here. More pundits are coming. Look what more we might have to look forward too. No names are given in order to preserve the privacy of any who might care. Tom
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marcus G Walsh walsh_marcus@ wrote: Hello everybody, I'm very glad that people are reporting these things because I've had no idea about what really is going on in Fairfield. That is so trajic. Its sad. I'm living in Ontario, Canada and have been a fan of TM and the whole idea of Maharishis programmes being made available for world peace. Marcus, one thing to bear in mind when reading this forum is that a lot of the participants have been *very* involved with the TM movement for many years. Most of them have distanced them- selves from the silliness that has overcome the organization, but many still feel positive about TM itself and the benefits they have received from it. The things Tom mentioned in his recent post *are* tragic, but in my opinion they reflect a lack in the TM organization more than they do a problem with meditation in general, or even with TM in particular. A lot of people basically devoted their *lives* to Maharishi and the TM movement, working for little or no pay for decades, and now they're gettin' old (as Neil Young said so well) and finding themselves with no Social Security (because they never worked at real jobs enough to earn any), no medical benefits, and no savings. And they're finding that the organization they gave their lives to doesn't give a shit about them. Yes, it's sad, but I don't think it's a condemnation of TM per se or meditation per se, just a condemnation of an organization that never had much compassion in the first place and has developed less and less of it as the years went by. snip What would be your advice to me about allowing my 3 and a half year old daughter to take the technique along with my wife? I'm not sure about the movement now. I won't do TM because I smoke marijuana and the two don't mix I'm told so I don't know what to do? I no longer practice TM and haven't for many decades. And I no longer remember at what age kids are allowed to learn the walking technique that was once avail- able. It's up to you, of course, as to whether you'd like your wife and daughter to learn, but if it's been a few years since you checked the *prices*, you might be in for a rude shock. If you do a Web search in your area, I'm pretty sure you will find some other forms of meditation (most of which, in my opinion, are just as effective and just as valuable as TM) for a lot less money, and carrying a lot less baggage. As for the marijuana thing, I don't see that the two don't mix. I honestly believe that the injunction on smoking grass for two weeks prior to learning TM was mainly a power trip on the part of the TM organ- ization, combined with a desire to distance itself from the hippie phenomenon that was prevalent when TM first became popular. That said, grass and other psychedelics *do* affect your consciousness, and thus will have some effect on meditation. But I know a LOT of people who meditate *and* smoke grass, and have suffered no ill effects from doing so. The only thing I'd add here is that smoking dope won't result in ill effects when practicing TM, but your experiences won't be very clear, so if you want a better start to meditation, probably best to lay off for a couple weeks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] As for the marijuana thing, I don't see that the two don't mix. I honestly believe that the injunction on smoking grass for two weeks prior to learning TM was mainly a power trip on the part of the TM organ- ization, combined with a desire to distance itself from the hippie phenomenon that was prevalent when TM first became popular. That said, grass and other psychedelics *do* affect your consciousness, and thus will have some effect on meditation. But I know a LOT of people who meditate *and* smoke grass, and have suffered no ill effects from doing so. The original prohibition against smoking MJ was that it made it difficult for the TM teacher to teach because he/she had been trained to expect certain things in a certain order, and MJ seemed to interfere with that process. TM teachers don't invent this stuff on the fly. They are technicians who are somewhat lost if the person doesn't respond as expected. Abstaining from MJ for two weeks prior to learning TM makes it more likely that the TM teacher's training will be relevant to the experiences of the student.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
Marcus G Walsh wrote: Hello everybody, I'm very glad that people are reporting these things because I've had no idea about what really is going on in Fairfield. That is so trajic. Its sad. I'm living in Ontario, Canada and have been a fan of TM and the whole idea of Maharishis programmes being made available for world peace. I'm young man at 32 and have a baby on the way in a month and a three and a half year old daughter. I suffer with depression almost chronically. I tried the TM technique years ago and it didn't work well. It started really screwing me up. I would try some ayurveda for that depression. Depression can often be prevented even with common kitchen herbs. Find a practitioner and see what they say. From my humble knowledge of mantra shastra (the science of how mantras work) I'm not surprised that TM mantras could aggravate the situation. Thanks for putting that information up online. What would be your advice to me about allowing my 3 and a half year old daughter to take the technique along with my wife? I'm not sure about the movement now. I won't do TM because I smoke marijuana and the two don't mix I'm told so I don't know what to do? If this stuff is true then its all very, very sad isn't it? I must confess that I haven't read any other posts and just joined this group a couple of days ago. Please keep the comments up about the goings on in Fairfield both good and bad. Its so important for people like me who don't know anything except what he's read via propaganda. Its very important to me and many others to not screw up our lives and if this kind of thing goes on often then all is not well with Fairfield and people need to know before they decide to live or move to Fairfield. FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry asked about life in Fairfield so thought I would summarize the latest happenings. Two former Purusha guys have died of cancer in the last two weeks. One former Purusha deeply depressed and threatened with eviction from the all aluminum ideal trailer park on campus took a very messy way out the exit. One other former purusha is locked in the phsych ward in Iowa City for trashing his trailer and then starting on the trailer of the lady who lived door. One meditator pulls a bungled bank robbery and is caught almost immediately. Other than that not much happening here. More pundits are coming. Look what more we might have to look forward too. No names are given in order to preserve the privacy of any who might care. Tom
[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Fairfield is all bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry asked about life in Fairfield so thought I would summarize the latest happenings. Two former Purusha guys have died of cancer in the last two weeks. One former Purusha deeply depressed and threatened with eviction from the all aluminum ideal trailer park on campus took a very messy way out the exit. One other former purusha is locked in the phsych ward in Iowa City for trashing his trailer and then starting on the trailer of the lady who lived door. One meditator pulls a bungled bank robbery and is caught almost immediately. Other than that not much happening here. More pundits are coming. Look what more we might have to look forward too. No names are given in order to preserve the privacy of any who might care. Tom Sounds about right. Nothing good ever happens in Fairfield, obviously...
