[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[azgrey]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:

. 
> 
> But, none of our Texas prairie dogs are GMO, 
> they are all organic! 

In the past you said there are no prairie dogs in
Texas. 

Stop your lying!.

You are getting almost as bad as Judy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[azgrey]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Bad news for ya Willy: "Whole Foods admits its organic foods contain 
> genetically modified ingredients"
> 
> http://www.naturalnews.com/032628_Whole_Foods_GMOs.html
> 
> Does organic brown rice go well with barbecued prairie dog?
>


Sweet Holy Bejeebus!



That brought tears to my eyes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[WillyTex]

> > Whole Foods Market carries a full line of
> > organic produce and meat. That's one of the
> > reason I'm still living here.
> >
authfriend:
> Well, no, it isn't. Whole Foods Market has
> around 300 stores across the United States.
>
There's only one Whole Foods World Headquarters,
the Flagship Store where I shop. But, that's just
one of the reason I still live here. It's right down the
road from my place - about a mile. So, fer now I'm
staying here, close to the original.

On a clear day I can see all the way to the Whole
Foods store from Radiance, the TM Ideal Village,
home of the Superradiance Program and the
Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge.

It's like being at the center of the whole universe!

> > Whole Foods World Headquarters
> > Austin, Texas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Don't know if you ever listen to KGO-AM but Gene Burns did 3 hours last 
> night on the possibility of riots this summer in the US based on the 
> rising number of unemployed.  Now as you know and for the benefit of 
> others who don't know KGO it is not a fringe little radio station but a 
> 50KW mainstream key San Francisco radio station.  It is a news talk 
> station and Burns is topical and Libertarian (who voted for Obama).  But 
> the topic came up due to him watching a segment on Wolf Blitzer's CNN 
> show yesterday where Jack Cafferty also a CNN staffer commented on the 
> possibility of civil unrest.  Here's the report that Burns was referring to:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QnwYwHQIM
> 

Can't stand Cafferty.

> There of course has been quite a bit of civil unrest in Europe as well 
> as Asia.  Maybe Turq isn't paying attention.  We also are having reports 
> from this year's Bilderberg meeting in the news.  It's being held in St. 
> Moritz and I got a kick out of seeing a road sign posted on an article 
> because it listed Sils where my grandfather grew up and in the 
> neighborhood.  My nephew visited Sils recently and told me being next to 
> St. Moritz is a pricey place and that his slice of pizza for lunch cost 
> $20.  But I digress.
> 
> Indeed the press around here reminds us all the time especially after we 
> have minor quakes to be sure to have supplies on hand.
> 

> On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> > In Bhairatu's case and mine too, earthquakes are a real threat here, so I 
> > have my survival kit in place, stored outside in a dry place where I can 
> > get to it if necessary. Things are pretty ugly here economically, though I 
> > think the probability of rebellion or revolution is *extremely* remote. I 
> > wouldn't mind though if all of the 20+ million unemployed converged on 
> > Washington DC and shut it down for awhile though.
> >

A lot of good a survival kit will do you stored outside in a tornado.

"As of June 8, there have been 1,458 tornadoes reported in the US in 2011 (of 
which at least 1,039 were confirmed). 2011 has been an exceptionally 
destructive and deadly year for tornadoes; worldwide, at least 539 people 
perished due to tornadoes: 12 in Bangladesh, one in New Zealand, one in the 
Philippines and an estimated 525 in the United States (compared to 564 US 
deaths in the 10 years prior) [1]. Due in large part to several extremely large 
tornado outbreaks in the middle and end of April and in late May, the year is 
currently on record pace. It is also the deadliest year in the United States 
since 1936, due mostly to the 322 tornadic deaths that occured during the April 
27 outbreak across the Southeastern United States and the 151 tornadic deaths 
in the 2011 Joplin Tornado."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornadoes_of_2011

A Tornado destroyed 30% of Joplin, MO, population 50,000. Catastrophic events 
are a big story in the news for a few days, then we don't hear very much about 
it afterwards. What happened to the folks who lived though Katrina?  How many 
came back to New Orleans? No one seems to keep track of where these people went 
or what happened to them after they lost everything, it's yesterday's news.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[whynotnow7]

True. We don't get tornadoes, at least not destructive ones, in the SF Bay 
area. I do remember an exceedingly rare one about 15 years ago in Sunnyvale 
that tore half the roof off of a church, and a funnel cloud that didn't touch 
down was spotted a couple of years ago. On the other hand we have noticeable 
quakes maybe three or four times a year here - who *doesn't* have cracks in all 
their interior walls? My survival kit is kept in an outbuilding, so it is 
covered, but would be easier to get to than digging through my house wreckage 
if we had a bad shaker. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Don't know if you ever listen to KGO-AM but Gene Burns did 3 hours last 
> > night on the possibility of riots this summer in the US based on the 
> > rising number of unemployed.  Now as you know and for the benefit of 
> > others who don't know KGO it is not a fringe little radio station but a 
> > 50KW mainstream key San Francisco radio station.  It is a news talk 
> > station and Burns is topical and Libertarian (who voted for Obama).  But 
> > the topic came up due to him watching a segment on Wolf Blitzer's CNN 
> > show yesterday where Jack Cafferty also a CNN staffer commented on the 
> > possibility of civil unrest.  Here's the report that Burns was referring to:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QnwYwHQIM
> > 
> 
> Can't stand Cafferty.
> 
> > There of course has been quite a bit of civil unrest in Europe as well 
> > as Asia.  Maybe Turq isn't paying attention.  We also are having reports 
> > from this year's Bilderberg meeting in the news.  It's being held in St. 
> > Moritz and I got a kick out of seeing a road sign posted on an article 
> > because it listed Sils where my grandfather grew up and in the 
> > neighborhood.  My nephew visited Sils recently and told me being next to 
> > St. Moritz is a pricey place and that his slice of pizza for lunch cost 
> > $20.  But I digress.
> > 
> > Indeed the press around here reminds us all the time especially after we 
> > have minor quakes to be sure to have supplies on hand.
> > 
> 
> > On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> > > In Bhairatu's case and mine too, earthquakes are a real threat here, so I 
> > > have my survival kit in place, stored outside in a dry place where I can 
> > > get to it if necessary. Things are pretty ugly here economically, though 
> > > I think the probability of rebellion or revolution is *extremely* remote. 
> > > I wouldn't mind though if all of the 20+ million unemployed converged on 
> > > Washington DC and shut it down for awhile though.
> > >
> 
> A lot of good a survival kit will do you stored outside in a tornado.
> 
> "As of June 8, there have been 1,458 tornadoes reported in the US in 2011 (of 
> which at least 1,039 were confirmed). 2011 has been an exceptionally 
> destructive and deadly year for tornadoes; worldwide, at least 539 people 
> perished due to tornadoes: 12 in Bangladesh, one in New Zealand, one in the 
> Philippines and an estimated 525 in the United States (compared to 564 US 
> deaths in the 10 years prior) [1]. Due in large part to several extremely 
> large tornado outbreaks in the middle and end of April and in late May, the 
> year is currently on record pace. It is also the deadliest year in the United 
> States since 1936, due mostly to the 322 tornadic deaths that occured during 
> the April 27 outbreak across the Southeastern United States and the 151 
> tornadic deaths in the 2011 Joplin Tornado."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornadoes_of_2011
> 
> A Tornado destroyed 30% of Joplin, MO, population 50,000. Catastrophic events 
> are a big story in the news for a few days, then we don't hear very much 
> about it afterwards. What happened to the folks who lived though Katrina?  
> How many came back to New Orleans? No one seems to keep track of where these 
> people went or what happened to them after they lost everything, it's 
> yesterday's news.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[whynotnow7]

I haven't listened to Gene Burns for a few years, though when I had a lng 
commute to the city I used to. Always enjoyed his show - he is interested in 
discussions vs. rabble rousing. I don't think we are at the brink of utter 
hopelessness yet to cause riots,  though *everyone* sees the hypocrisy of a 
government that no longer cares about them. I hear it constantly now, as if it 
is a given, so there is MAJOR alienation in the USA now and it is growing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Don't know if you ever listen to KGO-AM but Gene Burns did 3 hours last 
> night on the possibility of riots this summer in the US based on the 
> rising number of unemployed.  Now as you know and for the benefit of 
> others who don't know KGO it is not a fringe little radio station but a 
> 50KW mainstream key San Francisco radio station.  It is a news talk 
> station and Burns is topical and Libertarian (who voted for Obama).  But 
> the topic came up due to him watching a segment on Wolf Blitzer's CNN 
> show yesterday where Jack Cafferty also a CNN staffer commented on the 
> possibility of civil unrest.  Here's the report that Burns was referring to:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QnwYwHQIM
> 
> There of course has been quite a bit of civil unrest in Europe as well 
> as Asia.  Maybe Turq isn't paying attention.  We also are having reports 
> from this year's Bilderberg meeting in the news.  It's being held in St. 
> Moritz and I got a kick out of seeing a road sign posted on an article 
> because it listed Sils where my grandfather grew up and in the 
> neighborhood.  My nephew visited Sils recently and told me being next to 
> St. Moritz is a pricey place and that his slice of pizza for lunch cost 
> $20.  But I digress.
> 
> Indeed the press around here reminds us all the time especially after we 
> have minor quakes to be sure to have supplies on hand.
> 
> On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> > In Bhairatu's case and mine too, earthquakes are a real threat here, so I 
> > have my survival kit in place, stored outside in a dry place where I can 
> > get to it if necessary. Things are pretty ugly here economically, though I 
> > think the probability of rebellion or revolution is *extremely* remote. I 
> > wouldn't mind though if all of the 20+ million unemployed converged on 
> > Washington DC and shut it down for awhile though.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >>> On 06/09/2011 12:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:
>  Bottom line is, how much food have you been
>  able to store up for emergencies? You'd
>  probably be one of the first people to starve
>  to death because you don't have much of a seed
>  cache and you live miles from a store.
> 
>  The city folk would surely beat you to the
>  source of your food supply.
> 
>  You'd probably last about two weeks if you had
>  some potable water to drink. Since I live only
>  about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to
>  add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
>  is a spring nearby.
> 
>  And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
>  property a lot longer than you could.
> 
>  You need to get some smarts and forget about
>  the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
>  something, anything, to eat stored up in your
>  cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.
> 
>  Here is a list to get you started:
> 
>  1. Guns
>  2. Ammo
>  3. Water
>  4. Canned goods
>  5. Seeds and beans
>  6. Matches and BIC lighters
>  7. Candles and wax
>  8. Gasoline and oil
>  9. Crank radio
>  10. Flashlight and batteries
>  11. Jerky and trail mix
> >>> And listen to GCN, RBN and Rense daily. :-D
> >>>
> >>> I keep plenty of bottled water on hand and there is
> >>> always plenty survival stuff here.  You're forgetting
> >>> I live in earthquake area where it is highly recommended
> >>> to stay stocked. That said the ability to do that is
> >>> pretty dismal as apparently those survival kits aren't
> >>> sold in stores. Costco sells a kit but the review by
> >>> locally TV said the food was pretty dismal and it was
> >>> all soy protein which I try to limit.  Most of the
> >>> "survival foods" kits have beef dishes in them which
> >>> I don't want either.
> >>>
> >>> Oh, you forgot the portable potty.  What ya gonna due
> >>> if the sewage system goes down? :-D
> >> Has anyone else noticed that we don't tend to
> >> see these survivalist fantasies coming from the
> >> European or Asian members of our forum, only
> >> from the Americans?
> >>
> >> Just sayin'...
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[whynotnow7]

I haven't listened to Gene Burns for a few years, though when I had a For the 
mostlng commute to the city I used to. Always enjoyed his show - he is 
interested in discussions vs. rabble rousing. I don't think we are at the brink 
of utter hopelessness yet to cause riots,  though *everyone* sees the hypocrisy 
of a government that no longer cares about them. I hear it constantly now, as 
if it is a given, so there is MAJOR alienation in the USA now and it is growing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Don't know if you ever listen to KGO-AM but Gene Burns did 3 hours last 
> night on the possibility of riots this summer in the US based on the 
> rising number of unemployed.  Now as you know and for the benefit of 
> others who don't know KGO it is not a fringe little radio station but a 
> 50KW mainstream key San Francisco radio station.  It is a news talk 
> station and Burns is topical and Libertarian (who voted for Obama).  But 
> the topic came up due to him watching a segment on Wolf Blitzer's CNN 
> show yesterday where Jack Cafferty also a CNN staffer commented on the 
> possibility of civil unrest.  Here's the report that Burns was referring to:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QnwYwHQIM
> 
> There of course has been quite a bit of civil unrest in Europe as well 
> as Asia.  Maybe Turq isn't paying attention.  We also are having reports 
> from this year's Bilderberg meeting in the news.  It's being held in St. 
> Moritz and I got a kick out of seeing a road sign posted on an article 
> because it listed Sils where my grandfather grew up and in the 
> neighborhood.  My nephew visited Sils recently and told me being next to 
> St. Moritz is a pricey place and that his slice of pizza for lunch cost 
> $20.  But I digress.
> 
> Indeed the press around here reminds us all the time especially after we 
> have minor quakes to be sure to have supplies on hand.
> 
> On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> > In Bhairatu's case and mine too, earthquakes are a real threat here, so I 
> > have my survival kit in place, stored outside in a dry place where I can 
> > get to it if necessary. Things are pretty ugly here economically, though I 
> > think the probability of rebellion or revolution is *extremely* remote. I 
> > wouldn't mind though if all of the 20+ million unemployed converged on 
> > Washington DC and shut it down for awhile though.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >>> On 06/09/2011 12:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:
>  Bottom line is, how much food have you been
>  able to store up for emergencies? You'd
>  probably be one of the first people to starve
>  to death because you don't have much of a seed
>  cache and you live miles from a store.
> 
>  The city folk would surely beat you to the
>  source of your food supply.
> 
>  You'd probably last about two weeks if you had
>  some potable water to drink. Since I live only
>  about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to
>  add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
>  is a spring nearby.
> 
>  And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
>  property a lot longer than you could.
> 
>  You need to get some smarts and forget about
>  the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
>  something, anything, to eat stored up in your
>  cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.
> 
>  Here is a list to get you started:
> 
>  1. Guns
>  2. Ammo
>  3. Water
>  4. Canned goods
>  5. Seeds and beans
>  6. Matches and BIC lighters
>  7. Candles and wax
>  8. Gasoline and oil
>  9. Crank radio
>  10. Flashlight and batteries
>  11. Jerky and trail mix
> >>> And listen to GCN, RBN and Rense daily. :-D
> >>>
> >>> I keep plenty of bottled water on hand and there is
> >>> always plenty survival stuff here.  You're forgetting
> >>> I live in earthquake area where it is highly recommended
> >>> to stay stocked. That said the ability to do that is
> >>> pretty dismal as apparently those survival kits aren't
> >>> sold in stores. Costco sells a kit but the review by
> >>> locally TV said the food was pretty dismal and it was
> >>> all soy protein which I try to limit.  Most of the
> >>> "survival foods" kits have beef dishes in them which
> >>> I don't want either.
> >>>
> >>> Oh, you forgot the portable potty.  What ya gonna due
> >>> if the sewage system goes down? :-D
> >> Has anyone else noticed that we don't tend to
> >> see these survivalist fantasies coming from the
> >> European or Asian members of our forum, only
> >> from the Americans?
> >>
> >> Just sayin'...
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

Don't know if you ever listen to KGO-AM but Gene Burns did 3 hours last 
night on the possibility of riots this summer in the US based on the 
rising number of unemployed.  Now as you know and for the benefit of 
others who don't know KGO it is not a fringe little radio station but a 
50KW mainstream key San Francisco radio station.  It is a news talk 
station and Burns is topical and Libertarian (who voted for Obama).  But 
the topic came up due to him watching a segment on Wolf Blitzer's CNN 
show yesterday where Jack Cafferty also a CNN staffer commented on the 
possibility of civil unrest.  Here's the report that Burns was referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QnwYwHQIM

There of course has been quite a bit of civil unrest in Europe as well 
as Asia.  Maybe Turq isn't paying attention.  We also are having reports 
from this year's Bilderberg meeting in the news.  It's being held in St. 
Moritz and I got a kick out of seeing a road sign posted on an article 
because it listed Sils where my grandfather grew up and in the 
neighborhood.  My nephew visited Sils recently and told me being next to 
St. Moritz is a pricey place and that his slice of pizza for lunch cost 
$20.  But I digress.

Indeed the press around here reminds us all the time especially after we 
have minor quakes to be sure to have supplies on hand.

On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> In Bhairatu's case and mine too, earthquakes are a real threat here, so I 
> have my survival kit in place, stored outside in a dry place where I can get 
> to it if necessary. Things are pretty ugly here economically, though I think 
> the probability of rebellion or revolution is *extremely* remote. I wouldn't 
> mind though if all of the 20+ million unemployed converged on Washington DC 
> and shut it down for awhile though.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> On 06/09/2011 12:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:
 Bottom line is, how much food have you been
 able to store up for emergencies? You'd
 probably be one of the first people to starve
 to death because you don't have much of a seed
 cache and you live miles from a store.

 The city folk would surely beat you to the
 source of your food supply.

 You'd probably last about two weeks if you had
 some potable water to drink. Since I live only
 about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to
 add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
 is a spring nearby.

 And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
 property a lot longer than you could.

 You need to get some smarts and forget about
 the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
 something, anything, to eat stored up in your
 cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.

 Here is a list to get you started:

 1. Guns
 2. Ammo
 3. Water
 4. Canned goods
 5. Seeds and beans
 6. Matches and BIC lighters
 7. Candles and wax
 8. Gasoline and oil
 9. Crank radio
 10. Flashlight and batteries
 11. Jerky and trail mix
>>> And listen to GCN, RBN and Rense daily. :-D
>>>
>>> I keep plenty of bottled water on hand and there is
>>> always plenty survival stuff here.  You're forgetting
>>> I live in earthquake area where it is highly recommended
>>> to stay stocked. That said the ability to do that is
>>> pretty dismal as apparently those survival kits aren't
>>> sold in stores. Costco sells a kit but the review by
>>> locally TV said the food was pretty dismal and it was
>>> all soy protein which I try to limit.  Most of the
>>> "survival foods" kits have beef dishes in them which
>>> I don't want either.
>>>
>>> Oh, you forgot the portable potty.  What ya gonna due
>>> if the sewage system goes down? :-D
>> Has anyone else noticed that we don't tend to
>> see these survivalist fantasies coming from the
>> European or Asian members of our forum, only
>> from the Americans?
>>
>> Just sayin'...
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[whynotnow7]

In Bhairatu's case and mine too, earthquakes are a real threat here, so I have 
my survival kit in place, stored outside in a dry place where I can get to it 
if necessary. Things are pretty ugly here economically, though I think the 
probability of rebellion or revolution is *extremely* remote. I wouldn't mind 
though if all of the 20+ million unemployed converged on Washington DC and shut 
it down for awhile though.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 06/09/2011 12:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:
> > >
> > > Bottom line is, how much food have you been
> > > able to store up for emergencies? You'd
> > > probably be one of the first people to starve
> > > to death because you don't have much of a seed
> > > cache and you live miles from a store.
> > >
> > > The city folk would surely beat you to the
> > > source of your food supply.
> > >
> > > You'd probably last about two weeks if you had
> > > some potable water to drink. Since I live only
> > > about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to
> > > add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
> > > is a spring nearby.
> > >
> > > And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
> > > property a lot longer than you could.
> > >
> > > You need to get some smarts and forget about
> > > the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
> > > something, anything, to eat stored up in your
> > > cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.
> > >
> > > Here is a list to get you started:
> > >
> > > 1. Guns
> > > 2. Ammo
> > > 3. Water
> > > 4. Canned goods
> > > 5. Seeds and beans
> > > 6. Matches and BIC lighters
> > > 7. Candles and wax
> > > 8. Gasoline and oil
> > > 9. Crank radio
> > > 10. Flashlight and batteries
> > > 11. Jerky and trail mix
> > 
> > And listen to GCN, RBN and Rense daily. :-D
> > 
> > I keep plenty of bottled water on hand and there is 
> > always plenty survival stuff here.  You're forgetting 
> > I live in earthquake area where it is highly recommended 
> > to stay stocked. That said the ability to do that is 
> > pretty dismal as apparently those survival kits aren't 
> > sold in stores. Costco sells a kit but the review by 
> > locally TV said the food was pretty dismal and it was 
> > all soy protein which I try to limit.  Most of the 
> > "survival foods" kits have beef dishes in them which 
> > I don't want either.
> > 
> > Oh, you forgot the portable potty.  What ya gonna due 
> > if the sewage system goes down? :-D
> 
> Has anyone else noticed that we don't tend to 
> see these survivalist fantasies coming from the
> European or Asian members of our forum, only
> from the Americans?
> 
> Just sayin'...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[WillyTex]

> > You need to get some smarts and forget about
> > the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
> > something, anything, to eat stored up in your
> > cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.
> >
Bhairitu:
> Oh, you forgot the portable potty...
>
Well, I already have a brick shit-house on my 
property and lots of corn cobs too, both yellow 
and brown.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 06/09/2011 12:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:
> >
> > Bottom line is, how much food have you been
> > able to store up for emergencies? You'd
> > probably be one of the first people to starve
> > to death because you don't have much of a seed
> > cache and you live miles from a store.
> >
> > The city folk would surely beat you to the
> > source of your food supply.
> >
> > You'd probably last about two weeks if you had
> > some potable water to drink. Since I live only
> > about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to
> > add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
> > is a spring nearby.
> >
> > And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
> > property a lot longer than you could.
> >
> > You need to get some smarts and forget about
> > the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
> > something, anything, to eat stored up in your
> > cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.
> >
> > Here is a list to get you started:
> >
> > 1. Guns
> > 2. Ammo
> > 3. Water
> > 4. Canned goods
> > 5. Seeds and beans
> > 6. Matches and BIC lighters
> > 7. Candles and wax
> > 8. Gasoline and oil
> > 9. Crank radio
> > 10. Flashlight and batteries
> > 11. Jerky and trail mix
> 
> And listen to GCN, RBN and Rense daily. :-D
> 
> I keep plenty of bottled water on hand and there is 
> always plenty survival stuff here.  You're forgetting 
> I live in earthquake area where it is highly recommended 
> to stay stocked. That said the ability to do that is 
> pretty dismal as apparently those survival kits aren't 
> sold in stores. Costco sells a kit but the review by 
> locally TV said the food was pretty dismal and it was 
> all soy protein which I try to limit.  Most of the 
> "survival foods" kits have beef dishes in them which 
> I don't want either.
> 
> Oh, you forgot the portable potty.  What ya gonna due 
> if the sewage system goes down? :-D

Has anyone else noticed that we don't tend to 
see these survivalist fantasies coming from the
European or Asian members of our forum, only
from the Americans?

Just sayin'...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

On 06/09/2011 12:29 PM, WillyTex wrote:
>
>>> But, none of our Texas prairie dogs are GMO,
>>> they are all organic! According to what I've
>>> read almost ALL of your meat sources in CA
>>> are fed with GMO livestock feed! Good luck.
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> How do you know your prairie dogs didn't get
>> into some PCBs?
>>
> Just don't let them out of the house!
>
> Bottom line is, how much food have you been
> able to store up for emergencies? You'd
> probably be one of the first people to starve
> to death because you don't have much of a seed
> cache and you live miles from a store.
>
> The city folk would surely beat you to the
> source of your food supply.
>
> You'd probably last about two weeks if you had
> some potable water to drink. Since I live only
> about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to
> add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
> is a spring nearby.
>
> And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
> property a lot longer than you could.
>
> You need to get some smarts and forget about
> the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting
> something, anything, to eat stored up in your
> cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.
>
> Here is a list to get you started:
>
> 1. Guns
> 2. Ammo
> 3. Water
> 4. Canned goods
> 5. Seeds and beans
> 6. Matches and BIC lighters
> 7. Candles and wax
> 8. Gasoline and oil
> 9. Crank radio
> 10. Flashlight and batteries
> 11. Jerky and trail mix

And listen to GCN, RBN and Rense daily. :-D

I keep plenty of bottled water on hand and there is always plenty 
survival stuff here.  You're forgetting I live in earthquake area where 
it is highly recommended to stay stocked.  That said the ability to do 
that is pretty dismal as apparently those survival kits aren't sold in 
stores.  Costco sells a kit but the review by locally TV said the food 
was pretty dismal and it was all soy protein which I try to limit.  Most 
of the "survival foods" kits have beef dishes in them which I don't want 
either.

Oh, you forgot the portable potty.  What ya gonna due if the sewage 
system goes down? :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[WillyTex]

> > But, none of our Texas prairie dogs are GMO,
> > they are all organic! According to what I've
> > read almost ALL of your meat sources in CA
> > are fed with GMO livestock feed! Good luck.
> >
Bhairitu:
> How do you know your prairie dogs didn't get 
> into some PCBs?
>
Just don't let them out of the house!

Bottom line is, how much food have you been
able to store up for emergencies? You'd
probably be one of the first people to starve
to death because you don't have much of a seed 
cache and you live miles from a store. 

The city folk would surely beat you to the 
source of your food supply.

You'd probably last about two weeks if you had 
some potable water to drink. Since I live only 
about a mile from Whole Foods, I'd be able to 
add to my stocks in about ten minutes and there
is a spring nearby. 

And, I'm armed so I could keep bandits off my
property a lot longer than you could. 

You need to get some smarts and forget about 
the GMO issue - just concentrate on getting 
something, anything, to eat stored up in your 
cupboard for the bad day that's going to come.

Here is a list to get you started:

1. Guns
2. Ammo
3. Water
4. Canned goods
5. Seeds and beans
6. Matches and BIC lighters
7. Candles and wax
8. Gasoline and oil
9. Crank radio
10. Flashlight and batteries
11. Jerky and trail mix

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

On 06/09/2011 09:57 AM, WillyTex wrote:
>
>>> Not all of Whole Foods organics are modified,
>>> but compared to what you're getting at your
>>> local Safeway, it's pretty organic!
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> The closest grocer is a Knob Hill which is a
>> Bay Area chain and they have an organic
>> section...
>>
> There's "no way to tell if packaged products
> contain GMO ingredients", so you've probably
> been eating GMO foods for years, no matter where
> you buy it.
>
> About all you can hope for is to avoid the kind
> of illness they are experiencing now in Europe
> with the contaminated produce.
>
> But, none of our Texas prairie dogs are GMO,
> they are all organic! According to what I've
> read almost ALL of your meat sources in CA
> are fed with GMO livestock feed! Good luck.
>
> http://www.naturalnews.com/032628_Whole_Foods_GMOs.html

How do you know your prairie dogs didn't get into some PCBs?   Do you 
take your prairie dog meat in to get tested?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[WillyTex]

> > Not all of Whole Foods organics are modified,
> > but compared to what you're getting at your
> > local Safeway, it's pretty organic!
> >
Bhairitu:
> The closest grocer is a Knob Hill which is a 
> Bay Area chain and they have an organic 
> section...
>
There's "no way to tell if packaged products 
contain GMO ingredients", so you've probably 
been eating GMO foods for years, no matter where 
you buy it. 

About all you can hope for is to avoid the kind 
of illness they are experiencing now in Europe 
with the contaminated produce. 

But, none of our Texas prairie dogs are GMO, 
they are all organic! According to what I've
read almost ALL of your meat sources in CA
are fed with GMO livestock feed! Good luck.

http://www.naturalnews.com/032628_Whole_Foods_GMOs.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

On 06/08/2011 06:01 AM, WillyTex wrote:
>
>>> Is anybody else on an organic diet and if so,
>>> where do you procure your foodstuffs? I'm
>>> pretty sure I'd die if I couldn't eat organic
>>> brown rice every day.
>>>
> Bhairitu:
>> Bad news for ya Willy: "Whole Foods admits its
>> organic foods contain genetically modified
>> ingredients"
>>
> Not all of Whole Foods oraganics are modified,
> but compared to what you're getting at your
> local Safeway, it's pretty organic!

I don't shop Safeway.  Not into the "card" thang.  The closest grocer is 
a Knob Hill which is a Bay Area chain and they have an organic section 
which I keep an eye on because sometimes those prices will be the same 
or even less than their usual produce.  They also have an "organic" line 
of packaged foods.  And no card either.

Whole Foods is too far away but I also usually make it to Trader Joe's 
once a week.

For organic veggies I usually get them at the farmer's market.  Good 
prices too.  And no card either. :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[WillyTex]

> > Is anybody else on an organic diet and if so,
> > where do you procure your foodstuffs? I'm
> > pretty sure I'd die if I couldn't eat organic
> > brown rice every day.
> >
Bhairitu:
> Bad news for ya Willy: "Whole Foods admits its 
> organic foods contain genetically modified 
> ingredients"
> 
Not all of Whole Foods oraganics are modified, 
but compared to what you're getting at your 
local Safeway, it's pretty organic!

> http://www.naturalnews.com/032628_Whole_Foods_GMOs.html
> 
> Does organic brown rice go well with barbecued 
> prairie dog?
>
About as good as wild hog meat, but not all Latinos 
eat 'barbecued' prairie dogs, Barry. You probably
think all Asians eat cat meat - that's just your
race prejudice at work. But, do you have to be so
obvious about it? We already know that you think
you're elite and we are the 'sheeple'. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[sparaig]

IF that is so then someone better tell Senator Harkin that his response isn't 
valid.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>

> Bad news for ya Willy: "Whole Foods admits its organic foods contain 
> genetically modified ingredients"
> 
> http://www.naturalnews.com/032628_Whole_Foods_GMOs.html
> 
> Does organic brown rice go well with barbecued prairie dog?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

On 06/07/2011 07:38 AM, WillyTex wrote:
> whynotnow7:
>> I wasn't aware that genetically engineered
>> food has quietly taken over the market. At
>> the same time, many of the major grocery
>> chains now carry a very limited selection
>> of organic produce...
>>
> Whole Foods Market carries a full line of
> organic produce and meat. That's one of the
> reason I'm still living here.
>
> Is anybody else on an organic diet and if so,
> where do you procure your foodstuffs? I'm
> pretty sure I'd die if I couldn't eat organic
> brown rice every day.
>
> Whole Foods World Headquarters
> Austin, Texas.

Bad news for ya Willy: "Whole Foods admits its organic foods contain 
genetically modified ingredients"

http://www.naturalnews.com/032628_Whole_Foods_GMOs.html

Does organic brown rice go well with barbecued prairie dog?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 06/07/2011 08:04 AM, authfriend wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
> >> whynotnow7:
> >>> I wasn't aware that genetically engineered
> >>> food has quietly taken over the market. At
> >>> the same time, many of the major grocery
> >>> chains now carry a very limited selection
> >>> of organic produce...
> >>>
> >> Whole Foods Market carries a full line of
> >> organic produce and meat. That's one of the
> >> reason I'm still living here.
> >
> > Well, no, it isn't. Whole Foods Market has around
> > 300 stores across the United States.
> 
> It also has a nickname: Whole Wallet Foods. :-D

Known as Whole Paycheck on the East Coast.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

On 06/07/2011 08:04 AM, authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>> whynotnow7:
>>> I wasn't aware that genetically engineered
>>> food has quietly taken over the market. At
>>> the same time, many of the major grocery
>>> chains now carry a very limited selection
>>> of organic produce...
>>>
>> Whole Foods Market carries a full line of
>> organic produce and meat. That's one of the
>> reason I'm still living here.
> Well, no, it isn't. Whole Foods Market has around
> 300 stores across the United States.

It also has a nickname: Whole Wallet Foods. :-D

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[Bhairitu]

If you used to buy corn on the cob you may remember that not all ears 
were sweet tasting and in fact you could often come back from the store 
with nice fat mature ears and they still would be not so sweet.  Now 
most all ears of corn are sweet.  That's GMO.  Same with strawberries.  
Monsanto is like an asura when it comes to this.  The founder was 
idealistic and had a vision of saving the world from hunger.  His 
management had other ideas though: how to become filthy rich by 
controlling the world's food.

On 06/07/2011 06:20 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> I wasn't aware that genetically engineered food has quietly taken over the 
> market. At the same time, many of the major grocery chains now carry a very 
> limited selection of organic produce. I recall Maharishi being very much 
> against genetically modified food, though I don't recall why.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Description: Letterhead
>>
>> June 6, 2011
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr. Blake Overall
>> PO Box 161
>> Fairfield, IA  52556-0003
>>
>> Dear Blake:
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to inform me about your concerns and views
>> relating to federal rules and processes for regulating and labeling
>> genetically engineered (GE) crops.
>>
>> Given the rapid development and dissemination of GE crops, it is essential
>> to have a strong and effective federal regulatory and oversight system to
>> assess risks that may be associated with this technology, and to take
>> appropriate steps to protect human health and the environment, including
>> other plants and crops, against such risks.  In the United States, the
>> regulation of agricultural biotechnology is divided among the Food and Drug
>> Administration (FDA), the Environmental Protection Agency, and the
>> Department of Agriculture (USDA).
>>
>> Determining what labeling of GE foods may be recognized or required is among
>> the key biotechnology regulatory issues that we are currently facing.  Some
>> believe any labeling of GE foods or ingredients should be voluntary, while
>> others insist it should be required in order to inform consumers precisely
>> what they are eating.  In general, I favor more information for consumers,
>> provided it is accurate.  Presently, foods may be labeled and marketed as
>> not containing GE ingredients so long as any claims, such as about the
>> safety of GE foods, are truthful and not misleading in FDA's view.  FDA does
>> not, however, mandate that food labels include any type of special notice
>> disclosing that a food is genetically engineered or contains GE ingredients.
>> FDA's judgment is that GE foods on the market are not significantly
>> different from conventional foods in nutritional quality and safety.  It is
>> important to note that consumers who want to avoid GE foods have the option
>> of buying those bearing the USDA organic label.
>>
>> As illustrated by the ongoing debate over labeling of GE foods, as well as
>> recent controversies about GE alfalfa, sugar beets, and other crops and
>> foods, important issues in the federal regulation of GE plants, animals, and
>> foods remain unsettled.  It seems almost certain these matters will be
>> argued before federal regulatory agencies and litigated in the federal
>> courts for some time.  It is uncertain though just how, whether, or when
>> Congress may address these questions.  You can be sure that I value your
>> views and perspectives on GE crops and foods, and related issues and that I
>> will give them very careful consideration as these issues come before
>> Congress and the federal departments and agencies having jurisdiction.
>> Please feel welcome to get in touch with me again on this topic or any
>> others that concern you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Harkin
>> United States Senator
>>
>> TH/dnh
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> whynotnow7:
> > I wasn't aware that genetically engineered
> > food has quietly taken over the market. At
> > the same time, many of the major grocery
> > chains now carry a very limited selection
> > of organic produce...
> >
> Whole Foods Market carries a full line of
> organic produce and meat. That's one of the
> reason I'm still living here.

Well, no, it isn't. Whole Foods Market has around
300 stores across the United States.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[WillyTex]

whynotnow7:
> I wasn't aware that genetically engineered
> food has quietly taken over the market. At
> the same time, many of the major grocery
> chains now carry a very limited selection
> of organic produce...
>
Whole Foods Market carries a full line of
organic produce and meat. That's one of the
reason I'm still living here.

Is anybody else on an organic diet and if so,
where do you procure your foodstuffs? I'm
pretty sure I'd die if I couldn't eat organic
brown rice every day.

Whole Foods World Headquarters 
Austin, Texas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reply from Senator Harkin re GE foods

[whynotnow7]

I wasn't aware that genetically engineered food has quietly taken over the 
market. At the same time, many of the major grocery chains now carry a very 
limited selection of organic produce. I recall Maharishi being very much 
against genetically modified food, though I don't recall why.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
>  
> 
> Description: Letterhead
> 
> June 6, 2011
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Mr. Blake Overall 
> PO Box 161
> Fairfield, IA  52556-0003
> 
> Dear Blake:
> 
> Thank you for taking the time to inform me about your concerns and views
> relating to federal rules and processes for regulating and labeling
> genetically engineered (GE) crops.   
> 
> Given the rapid development and dissemination of GE crops, it is essential
> to have a strong and effective federal regulatory and oversight system to
> assess risks that may be associated with this technology, and to take
> appropriate steps to protect human health and the environment, including
> other plants and crops, against such risks.  In the United States, the
> regulation of agricultural biotechnology is divided among the Food and Drug
> Administration (FDA), the Environmental Protection Agency, and the
> Department of Agriculture (USDA).  
> 
> Determining what labeling of GE foods may be recognized or required is among
> the key biotechnology regulatory issues that we are currently facing.  Some
> believe any labeling of GE foods or ingredients should be voluntary, while
> others insist it should be required in order to inform consumers precisely
> what they are eating.  In general, I favor more information for consumers,
> provided it is accurate.  Presently, foods may be labeled and marketed as
> not containing GE ingredients so long as any claims, such as about the
> safety of GE foods, are truthful and not misleading in FDA's view.  FDA does
> not, however, mandate that food labels include any type of special notice
> disclosing that a food is genetically engineered or contains GE ingredients.
> FDA's judgment is that GE foods on the market are not significantly
> different from conventional foods in nutritional quality and safety.  It is
> important to note that consumers who want to avoid GE foods have the option
> of buying those bearing the USDA organic label.  
> 
> As illustrated by the ongoing debate over labeling of GE foods, as well as
> recent controversies about GE alfalfa, sugar beets, and other crops and
> foods, important issues in the federal regulation of GE plants, animals, and
> foods remain unsettled.  It seems almost certain these matters will be
> argued before federal regulatory agencies and litigated in the federal
> courts for some time.  It is uncertain though just how, whether, or when
> Congress may address these questions.  You can be sure that I value your
> views and perspectives on GE crops and foods, and related issues and that I
> will give them very careful consideration as these issues come before
> Congress and the federal departments and agencies having jurisdiction.
> Please feel welcome to get in touch with me again on this topic or any
> others that concern you.  
> 
>  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Tom Harkin
> United States Senator
> 
> TH/dnh
>