[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
As MMY has said - We are only able to love ourselves - not others. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drammm on Of course he loves you and all the hardworking, honest people who have contributed to his movement. It's difficult to see that now, with the peculiar situation in the movement, but it will be shown at some point of life. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As MMY has said - We are only able to love ourselves - not others. Ingegerd *** This could be a little misleading to those not familiar with what MMY said, which was all love is directed toward the self, meaning the cosmic self is the only possible target of love because it is all that exists, in a variety of forms. It does not mean that we cannot love others, but that there really are no others for one whose awareness is expanded: the world is my family -- there is no otherness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: measure. snip Maharishi often made it clear that he didn't like the hangers-on. Trouble was, he needed someone to help; hard-working as he was, he simply couldn't do it all. So the hangers-on eventually morphed into his rather loony organization which tries to shape things in its own warped image of how things should be. It must be very sad for Maharishi to have such vision and to have to depend upon such blindness. But it was the hangers-on in the 60s and 70s who gave MMY the practical help he needed to start and spread the mov't. Not just the practical common sense information needed to start an operation, but eventually also the 7 steps method of teaching, the scientific research, the competent local operation of so many centers in the 70s which brought so many people and resources into the mov't. I'm amazed at the extent and quality of support MMY had, esp in the 70s. It was MMY who personally took the mov't into hard sell of supernormal abilities, the innumerable failed businesses - sidhalands, drilling for oil in texas, fashion dresses, crumbling hotels galore, etc etc and then the hard sell of the various branches of vedas, which once again went well as long as Chopra was around, but is going nowhere as long as MMY's hand picked fanatics are in charge, and now everything under the sun in India, including used cars and fake currency. I agree with many other posts on this topic that MMY hit the jackpot with effortless meditation using bij mantras, but most everything else of value in the mov't over the years seems to me to have come from the enormous support and talent he received from the west, and most of the nuttiness and cultishness from him and his hand picked and cultivated inner circle. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths successfully, for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they did, because I was there. It is very sad if MMY do not appreciate what they did. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: measure. snip Maharishi often made it clear that he didn't like the hangers-on. Trouble was, he needed someone to help; hard-working as he was, he simply couldn't do it all. So the hangers-on eventually morphed into his rather loony organization which tries to shape things in its own warped image of how things should be. It must be very sad for Maharishi to have such vision and to have to depend upon such blindness. But it was the hangers-on in the 60s and 70s who gave MMY the practical help he needed to start and spread the mov't. Not just the practical common sense information needed to start an operation, but eventually also the 7 steps method of teaching, the scientific research, the competent local operation of so many centers in the 70s which brought so many people and resources into the mov't. I'm amazed at the extent and quality of support MMY had, esp in the 70s. It was MMY who personally took the mov't into hard sell of supernormal abilities, the innumerable failed businesses - sidhalands, drilling for oil in texas, fashion dresses, crumbling hotels galore, etc etc and then the hard sell of the various branches of vedas, which once again went well as long as Chopra was around, but is going nowhere as long as MMY's hand picked fanatics are in charge, and now everything under the sun in India, including used cars and fake currency. I agree with many other posts on this topic that MMY hit the jackpot with effortless meditation using bij mantras, but most everything else of value in the mov't over the years seems to me to have come from the enormous support and talent he received from the west, and most of the nuttiness and cultishness from him and his hand picked and cultivated inner circle. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths successfully, for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they did, because I was there. It is very sad if MMY do not appreciate what they did. Ingegerd Maybe it's time to move on, every day is a new day. It's nice that people worked hard at some point in there life to try and build something but at some point you just have to forget yesterday and resume living at the now mark. The real point in life is to cultivate awareness of the source of life not build up an impressive history that will look good on your obituary. It's all pretty meaningless really, your only as good as you are at any given moment. Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths successfully, for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they did, because I was there. It is very sad if MMY do not appreciate what they did. Ingegerd Of course he loves you and all the hardworking, honest people who have contributed to his movement. It's difficult to se that now, with the peculiar situation in the movement, but it will be shown at some point of life. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving - Hangers On
Drammm on Of course he loves you and all the hardworking, honest people who have contributed to his movement. It's difficult to see that now, with the peculiar situation in the movement, but it will be shown at some point of life. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
