[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
H. Heavy shit. So you're saying (maybe) that awareness is the empty, boundless container/void in which all experiences/events occur; while consciousness has structure and so could be thought of as awareness narrowed down to specialised organs? (Henri Bergson argued that consciousness pervades everything, and that our minds worked as a filter that allows through only what is comprehensible to our mental categories.) If you're saying what I think you're saying it sounds like what I'm saying also, but then . . . On the idealism/panpsychism option: does either of those positions appeal to you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... wrote : Gunna answer these to see if I'm Advaita sharp today. Is awareness dependent upon a (human or otherwise) nervous system? No. Awareness is the water cannot wet it thingy that isn't a thingy. The qualities of a nervous system that are grouped into the label consciousness, determine how much there there is of which to be aware.better nervous systems have more bandwidth and can project much more sophisticated world views. Some nervous systems have not yet been detected -- such as in rocks, but we have it on good authority that rocks will cry out in protest if Jesus' gang isn't allowed to teach on Saturdays. Is awareness the same for all who possess awareness? A bad question. Consciousness cannot make awareness an object, but human consciousness erroneously asserts this none-the-less, and this assertion is a brain-processing EXPERIENCE that is arbitrarily labeled I am, or Being. The contents of consciousness do not indicate awareness any more than the contents of a computer, as it processes, can be said to indicate that awareness is actual -- actual would mean that it can be instrumentally acquired by some material-based tool -- a brain for instance. Do some have more awareness even if the awareness is the same for all? Awareness is not consciousness. Consciousness is necessarily different for every entity that has ever manifested. There are no clones. Every point of view is momentary -- a mere snapshot of the processing in media res. Snapshot is not a good metaphor, though, in that all experiencing is closer to hallucination and projection than it is to having actual input that justifies the differentiation into which the mind deconstructs reality. Does awareness change? Evolve? Devolve? Fluctuate? No, awareness is not a thing. All things have boundaries that are arbitrary. Awareness has no properties -- including the property has no properties. (Thank you, Godel.) Only objects of consciousness can change. DIdi awareness exist before the mergence of homsapiens? (100,000 years or so ago) No. Awareness cannot be said to have a quality such as exists or doesn't exist. Awareness is beyond being and non-being. When the species human was able to transcend is unknown -- but probably not unknowable. Backwards looking DNA studies could zero in on this -- maybe. If so, how far back? I would guess that the recent findings of scratches on a sea shell indicate that some form of ape 500,000 years ago did the artwork. To me, artwork indicates strongly that the consciousness of that entity could be subtle enough to sustain transcendence, but I'm a romantic in this regard. Do plants have awareness of the degree and magnitude (posited) that humans do? No. Awareness is not consciousness -- which is a processing by a nervous system. Consciousness in plants etc. is easily demonstrated. And recent studies indicate all kinds of new ways plants are conscious of their environments. Amazing stuff, actually. Jesus got angry at a fig tree, so it might be that plants are as differing in personality as humans are. Chew on that, eh? Do rocks? To review: if Jesus' gang couldn't preach, it would have been such a catastrophe that the stones on the ground would be spurred to such a frenzy as to acquire in that intense moment the ability to somehow make sounds of agony -- if not actual human language. It is one of the most astounding statements in the Bible. It would be interesting to put some really mean people next to, say, the LHC and yell at it to see if the scatterings differ somehow. Crazy thought, eh? My view: Earth is alive down to the quarks, baby! Could artificial intelligence machines ever become aware? No. Awareness cannot be created -- NOR prevented. It's not something material or even actual by human mind standards. However, I believe that someday there will be (quantum processing level or even string level) an A.I. machine of such subtlety that it perfectly mimics human nervous system dynamics that the consciousness of machine or human would then be indistinguishable. Present-day A.I. is a joke. The true A.I. machines would talk about God just as we do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
No finger wagging, huh? I bet you kick poor blameless stones out of the way everyday. Re We have enough consensus for the functional basics to figure some stuff out. Looking for reality in a more ultimate sense seems a bit out of reach : Consensus. Functional basics. The whole point of having a mind is to explore the bigger picture and try to fathom what's real and what's illusion. Wish me luck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : I'm working two contradictory theses here! 1) idealism: only mind exists. 2) panpsychism: all matter *has* awareness. They can be reconciled but it's too much like hard work to do so on a FFL post. I answer your queries below . . . Re What other paradigm other than your own experience of human awareness are you working from?: That is my point exactly! You take *human* awareness as the paradigm of awareness and start wagging your finger at everything that comes within your experience that departs radically from your comfort zone. C: No finger wagging here. My comfort zone has nothing to do with this intellectual exercise any more that I suppose it does for you, right? Of course planets and stars can't communicate with us - why would they need to communicate? C: Wait a second, are you uncomfortable with them communicating? Any finger wagging going on? Just checking. I don't know if they can't, I just don't see any evidence of it. Language originated amongst humans as a survival mechanism in the struggle for existence. A planet ain't got no enemies. Maybe planets they turn their noses up at us for not being the gods they are. The philosopher Fechner made the case for planets having awareness (see William James' quote below). He pointed out that we think we're superior to a planet as we can move around where we wish. But the only reason animals can move is that it gives them the edge over plants in the search for food. Planets don't need food so why would they need to move? And so on . . . Our need of moving to and fro, of stretching our limbs and bending our bodies, shows only our defect. What are our legs but crutches, by means of which, with restless efforts, we go hunting after the things we have not inside of ourselves. But the Earth is no such cripple; why should she who already possesses within herself the things we so painfully pursue, have limbs analogous to ours? Shall she mimic a small part of herself? What need has she of arms, with nothing to reach for? of a neck, with no head to carry? of eyes or nose when she finds her way through space without either, and has the millions of eyes of all her animals to guide their movements on her surface, and all their noses to smell the flowers that grow? For, as we are ourselves a part of the earth, so our organs are her organs. She is, as it were, eye and ear over her whole extent--all that we see and hear in separation she sees and hears at once. She brings forth living beings of countless kinds upon her surface, and their multitudinous conscious relations with each other she takes up into her higher and more general conscious life. Most of us, considering the theory that the whole terrestrial mass is animated as our bodies are, make the mistake of working the analogy too literally, and allowing for no differences. If the earth be a sentient organism, we say, where are her brain and nerves? What corresponds to her heart and lungs? In other words, we expect functions which she already performs through us, to be performed outside of us again, and in just the same way. But we see perfectly well how the earth performs some of these functions in a way unlike our way. If you speak of circulation, what need has she of a heart when the sun keeps all the showers of rain that fall upon her and all the springs and brooks and rivers that irrigate her, going? What need has she of internal lungs, when her whole sensitive surface is in living commerce with the atmosphere that clings to it? C: I see some problems with how analogies are being used here. Re I don't understand what the good Bishop could mean by this (To be is to be perceived). Do you?: Yes. But I've already posted on this on another thread so will copy in below what I wrote there. Get back to me if you have an answer. What is immediately given in consciousness is the Cartesian theatre. So we know that that at least is real (as real as it needs to be). The idea that there is an existing physical world independent of our being aware of it is just a concept - a regulating idea that we find useful in discussing the common aspects of our mental pictures and in doing science. But there is no way anyone can prove there's an objective physical world of matter behind the picture. Plato knew that. So did Bishop Berkeley. So did the logical positivists. So do quantum physicists.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : No finger wagging, huh? I bet you kick poor blameless stones out of the way everyday. C: No, I love stones. I look for them everywhere like brothers. I just found a big quartz in the middle of nowhere special. It was like a murky diamond. Re We have enough consensus for the functional basics to figure some stuff out. Looking for reality in a more ultimate sense seems a bit out of reach : Consensus. C: Enough to work with. Isn't that how we can have this rap? Functional basics. The whole point of having a mind is to explore the bigger picture and try to fathom what's real and what's illusion. Wish me luck. C: I don't know if having a mind has a specific point but I enjoyed this discussion. My mind seems to have a lot of points to chase around including that one. We don't need no stink'n luck, we are both making our own. But good rap and thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : I'm working two contradictory theses here! 1) idealism: only mind exists. 2) panpsychism: all matter *has* awareness. They can be reconciled but it's too much like hard work to do so on a FFL post. I answer your queries below . . . Re What other paradigm other than your own experience of human awareness are you working from?: That is my point exactly! You take *human* awareness as the paradigm of awareness and start wagging your finger at everything that comes within your experience that departs radically from your comfort zone. C: No finger wagging here. My comfort zone has nothing to do with this intellectual exercise any more that I suppose it does for you, right? Of course planets and stars can't communicate with us - why would they need to communicate? C: Wait a second, are you uncomfortable with them communicating? Any finger wagging going on? Just checking. I don't know if they can't, I just don't see any evidence of it. Language originated amongst humans as a survival mechanism in the struggle for existence. A planet ain't got no enemies. Maybe planets they turn their noses up at us for not being the gods they are. The philosopher Fechner made the case for planets having awareness (see William James' quote below). He pointed out that we think we're superior to a planet as we can move around where we wish. But the only reason animals can move is that it gives them the edge over plants in the search for food. Planets don't need food so why would they need to move? And so on . . . Our need of moving to and fro, of stretching our limbs and bending our bodies, shows only our defect. What are our legs but crutches, by means of which, with restless efforts, we go hunting after the things we have not inside of ourselves. But the Earth is no such cripple; why should she who already possesses within herself the things we so painfully pursue, have limbs analogous to ours? Shall she mimic a small part of herself? What need has she of arms, with nothing to reach for? of a neck, with no head to carry? of eyes or nose when she finds her way through space without either, and has the millions of eyes of all her animals to guide their movements on her surface, and all their noses to smell the flowers that grow? For, as we are ourselves a part of the earth, so our organs are her organs. She is, as it were, eye and ear over her whole extent--all that we see and hear in separation she sees and hears at once. She brings forth living beings of countless kinds upon her surface, and their multitudinous conscious relations with each other she takes up into her higher and more general conscious life. Most of us, considering the theory that the whole terrestrial mass is animated as our bodies are, make the mistake of working the analogy too literally, and allowing for no differences. If the earth be a sentient organism, we say, where are her brain and nerves? What corresponds to her heart and lungs? In other words, we expect functions which she already performs through us, to be performed outside of us again, and in just the same way. But we see perfectly well how the earth performs some of these functions in a way unlike our way. If you speak of circulation, what need has she of a heart when the sun keeps all the showers of rain that fall upon her and all the springs and brooks and rivers that irrigate her, going? What need has she of internal lungs, when her whole sensitive surface is in living commerce with the atmosphere that clings to it? C: I see some problems with how analogies are being used here. Re I don't understand what the good Bishop could mean by this (To be is to be perceived). Do you?: Yes. But I've already posted on this on another thread so will copy in below what I wrote there. Get back to me if you have an answer. What is immediately given in
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. Let's hope that it's the foundation for an alternate universe, because King kills off 99.4% of the world's population in that first chapter. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. Let's hope that it's the foundation for an alternate universe, because King kills off 99.4% of the world's population in that first chapter. :-) I must be an optimist because I always naturally assumed I'd be one of the survivors. Or maybe it was even more crowded round here in the past!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
I guess Einstein hated the HUP nonsense... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : God, I hate shit like this. This way madness lies. If you play around with this Gematria nonsense (assigning numerical values to words hoping that words with the same numerical values have a relationship to each other) you can prove anything you want. It all depends on your own ingenuity. Einstein would be turning in his grave if he hadn't been cremated and his brain hadn't been removed and preserved in alcohol (funny that Einstein was teetotal). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message.
And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like
that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John
meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source.
But your theory is fun too (-:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of
creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the
universe.
How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in,
and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of
creation.
That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into
something as to have their prejudices confirmed.
I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand
is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote :
The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message. And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source. Sound travels through silence. Interesting... Something before creation. Even more interesting... I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it. But your theory is fun too (-: It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was 17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and evil. All the things a religious text could ask for! And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in production even as we type. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book.But your theory is fun too (-:It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was 17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and evil. All the things a religious text could ask for! And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in production even as we type. There was already a 4-part TV version of it made back in 1994, but in my opinion it was ruined by miscasting. Gary Sinise was OK as Stu Redman and Matt Frewer was OK as Trashcan Man, but the guy they picked to play Randall Flagg was terrible and Molly Ringwald was terrible as Frannie. As for making it into a two-hour movie, I join Steven King in suggesting that's a really dumb idea: Stephen King Doesn’t Think ‘The Stand’ Feature Film Will Work | | | | | | | | | | | Stephen King Doesn’t Think ‘The Stand’ Feature Film Will...Stephen King reveals that he was not aware of the upcoming feature film adaptation of 'The Stand' - and that he's not expecting much from it. | | | | View on screenrant.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
Salyavin, The rabbi compared the creation of the universe as a magic trick. What does the magician say when he pulls a rabbit from a hat? ABBRACADABRA. That means, Yahweh created as he spoke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air?
What do you think is the source of creation?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message.
And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like
that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John
meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source.
Sound travels through silence. Interesting...
Something before creation. Even more interesting...
I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it.
But your theory is fun too (-:It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was
17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong
characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and
evil. All the things a religious text could ask for!
And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in
production even as we type.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of
creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the
universe.
How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in,
and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of
creation.
That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into
something as to have their prejudices confirmed.
I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand
is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote :
The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, The rabbi compared the creation of the universe as a magic trick. What does the magician say when he pulls a rabbit from a hat? ABBRACADABRA. That means, Yahweh created as he spoke. So God pulled a Rabbi from a hat? It's all making sense at last ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air? What do you think is the source of creation? Sound waves won't travel through space. Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the required start time further back. It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from. God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default mode when confronted with the inexplicable. Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message. And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source. Sound travels through silence. Interesting... Something before creation. Even more interesting... I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it. But your theory is fun too (-: It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was 17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and evil. All the things a religious text could ask for! And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in production even as we type. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
Fortunately for us, there is actual video of god creating the universe. It's
the first trick, the one with the Rubik's cube. Don't ask who the kids are.
That just complicates things, like asking who Adam knocked up to create the
human race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06O46DjlvzQ
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air?
What do you think is the source of creation?
Sound waves won't travel through space.
Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to
exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation
because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the
required start time further back.
It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks
here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the
only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to
arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have
existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe
must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had
evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just
as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the
same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from.
God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to
ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default
mode when confronted with the inexplicable.
Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe
started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple
explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message.
And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like
that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John
meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source.
Sound travels through silence. Interesting...
Something before creation. Even more interesting...
I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it.
But your theory is fun too (-:It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was
17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong
characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and
evil. All the things a religious text could ask for!
And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in
production even as we type.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of
creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the
universe.
How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in,
and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of
creation.
That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into
something as to have their prejudices confirmed.
I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand
is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote :
The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
| |
| | | | The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation Rabbi Mordechai
Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews
that watch this video if you want to have a shar... | |
|View on www.yout... | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Fortunately for us, there is actual video of god creating the universe. It's the first trick, the one with the Rubik's cube. Don't ask who the kids are. That just complicates things, like asking who Adam knocked up to create the human race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06O46DjlvzQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06O46DjlvzQ Excellent. That's as good an explanation as any. Did Adam have nipples I wonder? All humans start as women in the womb and change to men when the appropriate hormone kicks in. Eve should really have been first in the Garden of Eden for the Genesis story to make sense It's a great story though, one of my favourites actually. Marvellous bit of writing. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air? What do you think is the source of creation? Sound waves won't travel through space. Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the required start time further back. It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from. God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default mode when confronted with the inexplicable. Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message. And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source. Sound travels through silence. Interesting... Something before creation. Even more interesting... I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it. But your theory is fun too (-: It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was 17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and evil. All the things a religious text could ask for! And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in production even as we type. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
salyavin, I think the 2 simplest answers are:
the universe never started; it just always wasor, the universe is starting at
every nanosecond.Which one of these is most wobbly, do you think?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air?
What do you think is the source of creation?
Sound waves won't travel through space.
Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to
exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation
because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the
required start time further back.
It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks
here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the
only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to
arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have
existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe
must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had
evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just
as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the
same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from.
God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to
ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default
mode when confronted with the inexplicable.
Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe
started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple
explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message.
And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like
that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John
meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source.
Sound travels through silence. Interesting...
Something before creation. Even more interesting...
I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it.
But your theory is fun too (-:It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was
17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong
characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and
evil. All the things a religious text could ask for!
And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in
production even as we type.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of
creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the
universe.
How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in,
and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of
creation.
That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into
something as to have their prejudices confirmed.
I'm working on a theory that the opening chapter of Stephen King's The Stand
is the foundation of the universe because I happen to think its a great book.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote :
The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
| |
| | | | The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation Rabbi Mordechai
Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews
that watch this video if you want to have a shar... | |
|View on www.yout... | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I think the 2 simplest answers are: the universe never started; it just always was or, the universe is starting at every nanosecond. Which one of these is most wobbly, do you think? Hmmm, well the first can be disproved because the universe is expanding, if it's getting bigger it must once have been smaller. Amazingly if you run the whole thing backwards you can get everything in it to a state where it was infinitely dense and infinitely hot. From there the maths describes exactly what we see and in the order it must have appeared. There's a book called Universe: the first three minutes that goes into it in some detail. But what was there before it? A better question might be: what could have been there before it? Perhaps the death of a previous universe? Apparently not, which is good because it spares us an infinite regress. According to Hawking there could have been a universe with time running backwards - but I know not why! One thing is very likely and that it existed in a state of perfect symmetry - Buck's beloved unified field - all the forces we see now folded back into one miniscule space/time event. The thing about symmetry is that it doesn't last and it would have broken up as soon as it appeared, try balancing a pencil on its end for the same effect. That's about as small and wobbly as anyone has got; if there was nothing there would instantly have to be something. If it didn't make sense I'd think it was bonkers too... but it's the simplest explanation and even the maths adds up but if there's more to it I cannot say. Our anti-woo woo pal Victor Stenger, wrote a paper showing how quantum tunnelling could have started the process, this means that there was a probability of it happening simply because the first electron had a probability of being there. And so it was. I can't comment on it because I haven't heard anyone else say that quantum probability is a time based event as well as a spatial one. But a single electron wobbling backwards and forwards in time is a small and wobbly event indeed. So I'll stop there. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air? What do you think is the source of creation? Sound waves won't travel through space. Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the required start time further back. It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from. God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default mode when confronted with the inexplicable. Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message. And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John meant by start of creation was the beginning rather than the source. Sound travels through silence. Interesting... Something before creation. Even more interesting... I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it. But your theory is fun too (-: It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was 17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong characters, a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
But suppose the universe started every 0.0004533327790102 nanosecond? Or suppose when it began there was no before but once it began, it had a past that duped us into thinking there was something before it began? Do you remember what the universe was like 10 seconds before your parents conceived you? Where was the universe before you woke up this morning? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, I think the 2 simplest answers are: the universe never started; it just always was or, the universe is starting at every nanosecond. Which one of these is most wobbly, do you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
ABBRACADABRA. That means, Yahweh created as he spoke.: Aleister Crowley replaced the 'C' in Abracadabra with an 'H. So: Abrahadabra. Crowley explains in his essay Gematria that he changed the magick word to include 'H' because of qabalistic methods. Crowley, described it as the Word of the Aeon, which signifieth The Great Work accomplished. See? Abracadabra is so old hat.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
salyavin,so one question might be: what gives rise to something infinitely dense and infinitely hot? What's the simplest answer to that? Would a single wobbly electron do that? Maybe there's a moment in quantum tunneling that gives rise to that heat and density. And I wonder what is symmetry in the context of the Uncertainty Principle. Is there a nanosecond (you can tell I'm fond of those!) where it is both a wave and a particle? Or neither? I can see why people become physicists (-: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I think the 2 simplest answers are: the universe never started; it just always wasor, the universe is starting at every nanosecond.Which one of these is most wobbly, do you think? Hmmm, well the first can be disproved because the universe is expanding, if it's getting bigger it must once have been smaller. Amazingly if you run the whole thing backwards you can get everything in it to a state where it was infinitely dense and infinitely hot. From there the maths describes exactly what we see and in the order it must have appeared. There's a book called Universe: the first three minutes that goes into it in some detail. But what was there before it? A better question might be: what could have been there before it? Perhaps the death of a previous universe? Apparently not, which is good because it spares us an infinite regress. According to Hawking there could have been a universe with time running backwards - but I know not why! One thing is very likely and that it existed in a state of perfect symmetry - Buck's beloved unified field - all the forces we see now folded back into one miniscule space/time event. The thing about symmetry is that it doesn't last and it would have broken up as soon as it appeared, try balancing a pencil on its end for the same effect. That's about as small and wobbly as anyone has got; if there was nothing there would instantly have to be something. If it didn't make sense I'd think it was bonkers too... but it's the simplest explanation and even the maths adds up but if there's more to it I cannot say. Our anti-woo woo pal Victor Stenger, wrote a paper showing how quantum tunnelling could have started the process, this means that there was a probability of it happening simply because the first electron had a probability of being there. And so it was. I can't comment on it because I haven't heard anyone else say that quantum probability is a time based event as well as a spatial one. But a single electron wobbling backwards and forwards in time is a small and wobbly event indeed. So I'll stop there. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air? What do you think is the source of creation? Sound waves won't travel through space. Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the required start time further back. It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from. God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default mode when confronted with the inexplicable. Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, this
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
On 12/11/2014 4:31 PM, Share Long sharelong wrote: salyavin, so one question might be: what gives rise to something infinitely dense and infinitely hot? What's the simplest answer to that? Would a single wobbly electron do that? Maybe there's a moment in quantum tunneling that gives rise to that heat and density. And I wonder what is symmetry in the context of the Uncertainty Principle. Is there a nanosecond (you can tell I'm fond of those!) where it is both a wave and a particle? Or neither? /Because what does not survive scrutiny cannot be real./ - Sam Harris I can see why people become physicists (-: Sam Harris, Ph.D. is a neuroscientist. http://en.wikipedia.org/Sam_Harris/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris_%28author%29
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
Boy, everybody is trying to get into this act. I thought Bantu was the language of creation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation
God, I hate shit like this. This way madness lies. If you play around with this Gematria nonsense (assigning numerical values to words hoping that words with the same numerical values have a relationship to each other) you can prove anything you want. It all depends on your own ingenuity. Einstein would be turning in his grave if he hadn't been cremated and his brain hadn't been removed and preserved in alcohol (funny that Einstein was teetotal). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hepa7@... wrote : The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Rabbi Mordechai Kraft important message scroll down ! ! ! important message : for all non jews that watch this video if you want to have a shar... View on www.yout... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od-xkRDw6nk Preview by Yahoo
