Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
I agree with your post Xeno - and these things when applied to TM'ers like Buck just go to show that TM just doesn't work as advertised. I wish it did, I really do. It just doesn't in many, and I believe in most cases. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL As meditators of the TM persuasion are, at least in their minds, marshalling the support of all the laws of nature, persecution should not be much more than batting away slightly annoying gnats. However real persecution requires a bit more machinery than a single individual can really bring to bear on a forum. I meditate, and yet I am still capable of dumb and stupid things (even though it's exactly what is required in the larger scheme of things), and meditators often display, with their mouths, a higher sense of purpose than they can actually muster in fact. We are all ordinary people, attempting to ameliorate some persistent delusions. At least that is what I hope. And hope is one of those persistent delusions, anticipating that what one wants to happen in the wider theatre of life is in fact what will actually happen — but what usually happens is always a bit off from that when we are lucky. To call someone a hater means that somewhere in the the mind one is becoming a reflection of that same concept, that one is reacting as if one is a mirror of what one wants to eliminate, whereas what one needs to be is an empty portal through which hate can pass without leaving a mark or a reflection. That does not mean that some kind of action against an individual or a group cannot be initiated, for sometimes to avoid being destroyed, one must do likewise and destroy, but how you will pay for that as internal strife in the mind or not depends on how much you can be that empty portal. A victim mentality does not get one a free pass in life, it just means you get stepped on and that you somehow think you are privileged in making a complaint. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 2:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
On 10/3/2014 9:16 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here. * * */Bye Bye to Buck - apparently Rick doesn't take threats lightly. Go figure./* * *Om, so evidently FFL being a yahoo-group privately owned and operated exclusively by Rick and seeing as Rick won't give me the keys to the place, it would seem that in procedure if I threatened to bring the full heat of the Southern Poverty Law Center on to the FFL yahoo group with a formal complaint about the vile hateful defamation of meditators that MJ methodically heaps in regularly puking out here then that complaint could get both of us kicked off FFL by precedent. MJ is such a pernicious hateful extreme defamer of all that is good with TM I should be doing all of humanity a large favor getting him removed from FFL that way, as Rick won't give me the keys to this place otherwise.* *-Buck in the Dome* *The Southern Poverty Law Center:* The Southern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society.*http://www.splcenter.org/* The Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to law enforcement agencies, the media and the public.** *Fighting Hateful Extremism: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism* *Hatewatch:* *http://www.splcenter.org/blog/* *Teaching Tolerance:* *Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance* image http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance We know we won’t achieve equality and justice through the courts and investigative reporting alone. The future of our great country lies in the hands of t... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Preview by Yahoo s3raphita@... writes : There are two serious problems with Jews pleading for special protection against attacks on their religion: 1) those of us who are not Jews and have long-since adjusted to seeing our own attitudes and beliefs ridiculed by all and sundry get the message that THE JEWS AREN'T LIKE US. So Jewish sensitivities only exacerbate the issue rather than allowing us to put the whole thing behind us back in the Dark Ages where it belongs and getting on with creating a society where everyone is regarded as an individual to be judged on what he/she does and says; and . . . 2) once you allow Jews to claim that privileged position then other groups want a piece of the action. At the moment it's Muslims who are trying to get anti-Islamic hate laws in place (Islamophobia = anti-Semitism). If they succeed then expect Scientologists to follow their lead. By the way: the Anti-Defamation League has a nasty reputation for trampling on free speech. Take a walk through Google and you'll come across some troubling cases. Poor David Icke (yes, I know he's a fruitcake) had a hard time from ADL a while back on a book tour. The ADL activists came across as self-righteous prigs. Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ypYcZ7qfw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
On 10/3/2014 10:42 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: well when you take the fact that Mahesh Prasad said the mantras were names of gods in his first book, Meditations of maharishi mahesh yogi, and repeated it ad infinitum in the early years of the Movement, then claimed they were meaningless sounds Maybe you don't realize that you just posted a series of untruths - all of these points have been discredited by Judy and others many times on FFL and alt.m.t. Now you're just trolling for attention. Almost everything in your message is based on a prejudice against Hindus. Go figure. /Prejudice: often used to refer to unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because on race/ethnicity, gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, , language, nationality or other personal characteristics./ made a tape that he sold to initiators only claiming that we exist to provide soma for the gods and they give us boons to get that soma soup, then took the tape back and threatened to excommunicate the ones who didn't send it back and pretended he never told people anything that bizarre or absurd. Made promises and broke them regularly (like canceling ATR credit for teachers) told everyone he was a life long celibate and screwed as many women as he could took money under false pretenses for decades, made grander and grander promises none of which were ever fulfilled (people will get enlightened, people will fly, turn invisible,) TMSP is 10,000 times more powerful than TM alone, no negative side effects from TM and TMSP and on and on, what kind of things do you expect me and other clear thinking individuals to say about someone who obviously was a liar, sexual opportunist if not abuser and flimflam man and con artist? *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2014 10:16 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL *No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here. * *Om, so evidently FFL being a yahoo-group privately owned and operated exclusively by Rick and seeing as Rick won't give me the keys to the place, it would seem that in procedure if I threatened to bring the full heat of the Southern Poverty Law Center on to the FFL yahoo group with a formal complaint about the vile hateful defamation of meditators that MJ methodically heaps in regularly puking out here then that complaint could get both of us kicked off FFL by precedent. MJ is such a pernicious hateful extreme defamer of all that is good with TM I should be doing all of humanity a large favor getting him removed from FFL that way, as Rick won't give me the keys to this place otherwise.* *-Buck in the Dome* *The Southern Poverty Law Center:* The Southern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society.*http://www.splcenter.org/* The Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to law enforcement agencies, the media and the public.** *Fighting Hateful Extremism: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism* *Hatewatch:* *http://www.splcenter.org/blog/* *Teaching Tolerance:* *Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance* image http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance We know we won’t achieve equality and justice through the courts and investigative reporting alone. The future of our great country lies in the hands of t... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Preview by Yahoo s3raphita@... writes : There are two serious problems with Jews pleading for special protection against attacks on their religion: 1) those of us who are not Jews and have long-since adjusted to seeing our own attitudes and beliefs ridiculed by all and sundry get the message that THE JEWS AREN'T LIKE US. So Jewish sensitivities only exacerbate the issue rather than allowing us to put the whole thing behind us back in the Dark Ages where it belongs and getting on with creating a society where everyone is regarded as an individual to be judged on what he/she does and says; and . . . 2) once you allow Jews to claim that privileged position then other groups want a piece of the action. At the moment it's Muslims who
[FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here. Om, so evidently FFL being a yahoo-group privately owned and operated exclusively by Rick and seeing as Rick won't give me the keys to the place, it would seem that in procedure if I threatened to bring the full heat of the Southern Poverty Law Center on to the FFL yahoo group with a formal complaint about the vile hateful defamation of meditators that MJ methodically heaps in regularly puking out here then that complaint could get both of us kicked off FFL by precedent.MJ is such a pernicious hateful extreme defamer of all that is good with TM I should be doing all of humanity a large favor getting him removed from FFL that way, as Rick won't give me the keys to this place otherwise. -Buck in the Dome The Southern Poverty Law Center: The Southern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society. http://www.splcenter.org/ http://www.splcenter.org/ The Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to law enforcement agencies, the media and the public. Fighting Hateful Extremism: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism Hatewatch: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/ http://www.splcenter.org/blog/ Teaching Tolerance: Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance We know we won’t achieve equality and justice through the courts and investigative reporting alone. The future of our great country lies in the hands of t... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Preview by Yahoo s3raphita@... writes : There are two serious problems with Jews pleading for special protection against attacks on their religion: 1) those of us who are not Jews and have long-since adjusted to seeing our own attitudes and beliefs ridiculed by all and sundry get the message that THE JEWS AREN'T LIKE US. So Jewish sensitivities only exacerbate the issue rather than allowing us to put the whole thing behind us back in the Dark Ages where it belongs and getting on with creating a society where everyone is regarded as an individual to be judged on what he/she does and says; and . . . 2) once you allow Jews to claim that privileged position then other groups want a piece of the action. At the moment it's Muslims who are trying to get anti-Islamic hate laws in place (Islamophobia = anti-Semitism). If they succeed then expect Scientologists to follow their lead. By the way: the Anti-Defamation League has a nasty reputation for trampling on free speech. Take a walk through Google and you'll come across some troubling cases. Poor David Icke (yes, I know he's a fruitcake) had a hard time from ADL a while back on a book tour. The ADL activists came across as self-righteous prigs. Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ypYcZ7qfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ypYcZ7qfw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
Southern Poverty Law Center... hating hate. On Friday, October 3, 2014 7:16 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Noget off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hatepersecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to theSouthern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators areexperiencing from a few people posting here. Om,so evidently FFL being a yahoo-group privately owned and operated exclusively byRick and seeing as Rick won't give me the keys to the place, itwould seem that in procedure if I threatened to bring the full heatof the Southern Poverty Law Center on to the FFL yahoo group with aformal complaint about the vile hateful defamation of meditators thatMJ methodically heaps in regularly puking out here then that complaintcould get both of us kicked off FFL by precedent. MJ is such apernicious hateful extreme defamer of all that is good with TM Ishould be doing all of humanity a large favor getting him removedfrom FFL that way, as Rick won't give me the keys to this placeotherwise. -Buckin the Dome TheSouthern Poverty Law Center:TheSouthern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotryand to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of oursociety. http://www.splcenter.org/ TheSouthern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other extremiststhroughout the United States and exposes their activities to lawenforcement agencies, the media and the public.FightingHateful Extremism: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism Hatewatch:http://www.splcenter.org/blog/ TeachingTolerance:Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center || |||| Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center We know we won’t achieve equality and justice through the courts and investigative reporting alone. The future of our great country lies in the hands of t...| | | View on www.splcenter.org |Preview by Yahoo| || s3raphita@... writes : There are two serious problems with Jews pleading for special protection against attacks on their religion:1) those of us who are not Jews and have long-since adjusted to seeing our own attitudes and beliefs ridiculed by all and sundry get the message that THE JEWS AREN'T LIKE US. So Jewish sensitivities only exacerbate the issue rather than allowing us to put the whole thing behind us back in the Dark Ages where it belongs and getting on with creating a society where everyone is regarded as an individual to be judged on what he/she does and says; and . . .2) once you allow Jews to claim that privileged position then other groups want a piece of the action. At the moment it's Muslims who are trying to get anti-Islamic hate laws in place (Islamophobia = anti-Semitism). If they succeed then expect Scientologists to follow their lead. By the way: the Anti-Defamation League has a nasty reputation for trampling on free speech. Take a walk through Google and you'll come across some troubling cases. Poor David Icke (yes, I know he's a fruitcake) had a hard time from ADL a while back on a book tour. The ADL activists came across as self-righteous prigs. Take a look here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ypYcZ7qfw #yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911 -- #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp #yiv4844419911hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp #yiv4844419911ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp .yiv4844419911ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp .yiv4844419911ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-mkp .yiv4844419911ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-sponsor #yiv4844419911ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-sponsor #yiv4844419911ygrp-lc #yiv4844419911hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911ygrp-sponsor #yiv4844419911ygrp-lc .yiv4844419911ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4844419911 #yiv4844419911activity span .yiv4844419911underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4844419911 .yiv4844419911attach
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
As meditators of the TM persuasion are, at least in their minds, marshalling the support of all the laws of nature, persecution should not be much more than batting away slightly annoying gnats. However real persecution requires a bit more machinery than a single individual can really bring to bear on a forum. I meditate, and yet I am still capable of dumb and stupid things (even though it's exactly what is required in the larger scheme of things), and meditators often display, with their mouths, a higher sense of purpose than they can actually muster in fact. We are all ordinary people, attempting to ameliorate some persistent delusions. At least that is what I hope. And hope is one of those persistent delusions, anticipating that what one wants to happen in the wider theatre of life is in fact what will actually happen — but what usually happens is always a bit off from that when we are lucky. To call someone a hater means that somewhere in the the mind one is becoming a reflection of that same concept, that one is reacting as if one is a mirror of what one wants to eliminate, whereas what one needs to be is an empty portal through which hate can pass without leaving a mark or a reflection. That does not mean that some kind of action against an individual or a group cannot be initiated, for sometimes to avoid being destroyed, one must do likewise and destroy, but how you will pay for that as internal strife in the mind or not depends on how much you can be that empty portal. A victim mentality does not get one a free pass in life, it just means you get stepped on and that you somehow think you are privileged in making a complaint. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 2:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
well when you take the fact that Mahesh Prasad said the mantras were names of gods in his first book, Meditations of maharishi mahesh yogi, and repeated it ad infinitum in the early years of the Movement, then claimed they were meaningless sounds made a tape that he sold to initiators only claiming that we exist to provide soma for the gods and they give us boons to get that soma soup, then took the tape back and threatened to excommunicate the ones who didn't send it back and pretended he never told people anything that bizarre or absurd. Made promises and broke them regularly (like canceling ATR credit for teachers) told everyone he was a life long celibate and screwed as many women as he could took money under false pretenses for decades, made grander and grander promises none of which were ever fulfilled (people will get enlightened, people will fly, turn invisible,) TMSP is 10,000 times more powerful than TM alone, no negative side effects from TM and TMSP and on and on, what kind of things do you expect me and other clear thinking individuals to say about someone who obviously was a liar, sexual opportunist if not abuser and flimflam man and con artist? From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here. Om, so evidently FFL being a yahoo-group privately owned and operated exclusively by Rick and seeing as Rick won't give me the keys to the place, it would seem that in procedure if I threatened to bring the full heat of the Southern Poverty Law Center on to the FFL yahoo group with a formal complaint about the vile hateful defamation of meditators that MJ methodically heaps in regularly puking out here then that complaint could get both of us kicked off FFL by precedent.MJ is such a pernicious hateful extreme defamer of all that is good with TM I should be doing all of humanity a large favor getting him removed from FFL that way, as Rick won't give me the keys to this place otherwise. -Buck in the Dome The Southern Poverty Law Center: The Southern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society.http://www.splcenter.org/ The Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to law enforcement agencies, the media and the public. Fighting Hateful Extremism: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism Hatewatch: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/ Teaching Tolerance: Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center We know we won’t achieve equality and justice through the courts and investigative reporting alone. The future of our great country lies in the hands of t... View on www.splcenter.org Preview by Yahoo s3raphita@... writes : There are two serious problems with Jews pleading for special protection against attacks on their religion: 1) those of us who are not Jews and have long-since adjusted to seeing our own attitudes and beliefs ridiculed by all and sundry get the message that THE JEWS AREN'T LIKE US. So Jewish sensitivities only exacerbate the issue rather than allowing us to put the whole thing behind us back in the Dark Ages where it belongs and getting on with creating a society where everyone is regarded as an individual to be judged on what he/she does and says; and . . . 2) once you allow Jews to claim that privileged position then other groups want a piece of the action. At the moment it's Muslims who are trying to get anti-Islamic hate laws in place (Islamophobia = anti-Semitism). If they succeed then expect Scientologists to follow their lead. By the way: the Anti-Defamation League has a nasty reputation for trampling on free speech. Take a walk through Google and you'll come across some troubling cases. Poor David Icke (yes, I know he's a fruitcake) had a hard time from ADL a while back on a book tour. The ADL activists came across as self-righteous prigs. Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ypYcZ7qfw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL
sounds like you've found your life mission Michael. you go round and round with your findings, and actually sounding more and more desperate perhaps there will be a satisfactory payoff for you, or perhaps you will ride off into the sunset a bitter and angry person. I guess you'll see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : well when you take the fact that Mahesh Prasad said the mantras were names of gods in his first book, Meditations of maharishi mahesh yogi, and repeated it ad infinitum in the early years of the Movement, then claimed they were meaningless sounds made a tape that he sold to initiators only claiming that we exist to provide soma for the gods and they give us boons to get that soma soup, then took the tape back and threatened to excommunicate the ones who didn't send it back and pretended he never told people anything that bizarre or absurd. Made promises and broke them regularly (like canceling ATR credit for teachers) told everyone he was a life long celibate and screwed as many women as he could took money under false pretenses for decades, made grander and grander promises none of which were ever fulfilled (people will get enlightened, people will fly, turn invisible,) TMSP is 10,000 times more powerful than TM alone, no negative side effects from TM and TMSP and on and on, what kind of things do you expect me and other clear thinking individuals to say about someone who obviously was a liar, sexual opportunist if not abuser and flimflam man and con artist? From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 10:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Saying Bye Bye to Haters and Hate Speech on FFL No get off it, not just Jews but meditators too are victims of hate persecution here too. I was feeling to turn FFL over to the Southern Poverty Law Center over the hate-speech which meditators are experiencing from a few people posting here. Om, so evidently FFL being a yahoo-group privately owned and operated exclusively by Rick and seeing as Rick won't give me the keys to the place, it would seem that in procedure if I threatened to bring the full heat of the Southern Poverty Law Center on to the FFL yahoo group with a formal complaint about the vile hateful defamation of meditators that MJ methodically heaps in regularly puking out here then that complaint could get both of us kicked off FFL by precedent.MJ is such a pernicious hateful extreme defamer of all that is good with TM I should be doing all of humanity a large favor getting him removed from FFL that way, as Rick won't give me the keys to this place otherwise. -Buck in the Dome The Southern Poverty Law Center: The Southern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society. http://www.splcenter.org/ http://www.splcenter.org/ The Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to law enforcement agencies, the media and the public. Fighting Hateful Extremism: http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism Hatewatch: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/ http://www.splcenter.org/blog/ Teaching Tolerance: Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Teaching Tolerance | Southern Poverty Law Center http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance We know we won’t achieve equality and justice through the courts and investigative reporting alone. The future of our great country lies in the hands of t... View on www.splcenter.org http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/teaching-tolerance Preview by Yahoo s3raphita@... writes : There are two serious problems with Jews pleading for special protection against attacks on their religion: 1) those of us who are not Jews and have long-since adjusted to seeing our own attitudes and beliefs ridiculed by all and sundry get the message that THE JEWS AREN'T LIKE US. So Jewish sensitivities only exacerbate the issue rather than allowing us to put the whole thing behind us back in the Dark Ages where it belongs and getting on with creating a society where everyone is regarded as an individual to be judged on what he/she does and says; and . . . 2) once you allow Jews to claim that privileged position then other groups want a piece of the action. At the moment it's Muslims who are trying to get anti-Islamic hate laws in place (Islamophobia = anti-Semitism). If they succeed then expect Scientologists to follow their lead. By the way: the Anti-Defamation League has a nasty reputation for trampling on free speech. Take a walk