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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? What sort of crappy excuse is that. Can you fly? is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. It's more than a little scary that people like sometimes-rational feste don't see the insanity in this news clip that 99.99% of the world's population would see. Maharishi is just fuckin' GONE, man, which one might attribute just to senility and old age, if it weren't for the fact that most of the other people who represent the TMO in the segment are equally GONE. Bevan has never *been* more embarrassing than he was in this bit, and that's really saying something. I still think that a lot of it w.r.t. the brainwashing is the frog in the pot syndrome. Yeah, I know it's probably a real phenomenon, but the metaphor was that if you put a frog in a pot of hot water, he recognizes the threat to life and just jumps out. Put a frog in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, and he'll just sit there and allow himself to be boiled to death because he gets used to it in small increments. That's what happened to formerly rational TMers. The brainwashing snuck up on them over a period of years and decades. Over that time they got used to seeing things around them that would sent had them running for the exits if they'd been allowed to see them during their first months with TM, but by the time they *did* get to see them they'd been trained to consider these things normal. This is what is scariest to normal 99.99% people watching clips like this one. It's *not* the craziness of the principals, like Maharishi and Bevan and King Tony -- it's the craziness of people like feste who make excuses for them, and write off their obvious insanity by claiming the interview was a hatchet job. Now *that* is scary. You'd almost *expect* the leaders of a worldwide cult to be crazy, but the everyday followers of the cult? When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Exactly. Part of the *definition* of being on the inside is having been sufficiently brainwashed to consider these levels of insanity normal. The scariest part, from my point of view, is that once one has made an internal (and rarely conscious) decision to accept this level of craziness as normal, it's very, very, very, very difficult to ever be able to see it another way. Once brainwashed, people tend to *stay* brainwashed, unless they have a great deal of personal power and will and an inability to be coerced by cult peer pressure. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? He was *clearly* reacting to the reporter's 'tude, which refused to give him the suck-up obeisance he'd gotten used to getting from almost everyone. So he did what all Narcissistic Personality Disordered people do in situations like that, and tried to regain control by stalking off. Think Robin Carlsen stalking off from FFL when no one would treat *him* the way he expected to be treated. What sort of crappy excuse is that. Can you fly? is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. It certainly is. Especially when you've got top-level toadies like Bevan claiming that he could. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. That *was* interesting, wasn't it. I got the feeling that at least Tony realized what an ass he was making of himself, but Bevan had nary a clue. He was as out of it and as unconscious of what constitutes normal behavior as lifetime schizophrenics I used to see in a state mental hospital I once worked in for a short time. Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it. Exactly. Furthermore, this someone had access to the media and about halfway through the interview they realized they didn't. I think that one reason Maharishi reacted the way that he did (like a petulant, narcissistic,
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From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. Exactly. As for serious journalism, isn't this clip from the Australian version of 60 Minutes? That's pretty serious. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. Give the girl two points. :-) He was by this point so used to just saying shit and have it be taken seriously by the sycophants around him that he literally couldn't cope with someone not falling for it. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? I don't know when it was recorded, either. All we do know is that Maharishi's isolation and insanity only got WORSE from this point onwards, until he finally ended his life speaking over closed-circuit TV to no one BUT sycophants who had already paid him a million dollars each, trying to extort even more money from them to build enormous phalluses in his honor. Maharishi's last days could not have been more like King Lear if he'd been trying to perform that role onstage. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed Maharishi Exposed This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I like you. So wrt MJ calling Nabby a Nazi, please do not hold your breathe waiting for an apology! I do agree, when Maharishi advised that you can tell everything about a person, from just a few words that he says. On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:42 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Eggg-cellent! You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a Nazi or to Dan for equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not? From: geezerfreak@... mailto:geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else. When you've got an axe to grind, then you interpret things accordingly. You are no more free of bias than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? What sort of crappy excuse is that. Can you fly? is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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MMY was not at his best in his final years, when he was old and probably sick. Remember, the gods give us some faults to make us men and be charitable. I don't blame him at all for cutting the reporter off, since the man's intentions were obvious. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed Maharishi Exposed This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
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Excellent post Barry - couldn't have said it better myself. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. It's more than a little scary that people like sometimes-rational feste don't see the insanity in this news clip that 99.99% of the world's population would see. Maharishi is just fuckin' GONE, man, which one might attribute just to senility and old age, if it weren't for the fact that most of the other people who represent the TMO in the segment are equally GONE. Bevan has never *been* more embarrassing than he was in this bit, and that's really saying something. I still think that a lot of it w.r.t. the brainwashing is the frog in the pot syndrome. Yeah, I know it's probably a real phenomenon, but the metaphor was that if you put a frog in a pot of hot water, he recognizes the threat to life and just jumps out. Put a frog in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, and he'll just sit there and allow himself to be boiled to death because he gets used to it in small increments. That's what happened to formerly rational TMers. The brainwashing snuck up on them over a period of years and decades. Over that time they got used to seeing things around them that would sent had them running for the exits if they'd been allowed to see them during their first months with TM, but by the time they *did* get to see them they'd been trained to consider these things normal. This is what is scariest to normal 99.99% people watching clips like this one. It's *not* the craziness of the principals, like Maharishi and Bevan and King Tony -- it's the craziness of people like feste who make excuses for them, and write off their obvious insanity by claiming the interview was a hatchet job. Now *that* is scary. You'd almost *expect* the leaders of a worldwide cult to be crazy, but the everyday followers of the cult? When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Exactly. Part of the *definition* of being on the inside is having been sufficiently brainwashed to consider these levels of insanity normal. The scariest part, from my point of view, is that once one has made an internal (and rarely conscious) decision to accept this level of craziness as normal, it's very, very, very, very difficult to ever be able to see it another way. Once brainwashed, people tend to *stay* brainwashed, unless they have a great deal of personal power and will and an inability to be coerced by cult peer pressure. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? He was *clearly* reacting to the reporter's 'tude, which refused to give him the suck-up obeisance he'd gotten used to getting from almost everyone. So he did what all Narcissistic Personality Disordered people do in situations like that, and tried to regain control by stalking off. Think Robin Carlsen stalking off from FFL when no one would treat *him* the way he expected to be treated. What sort of crappy excuse is that. Can you fly? is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. It certainly is. Especially when you've got top-level toadies like Bevan claiming that he could. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. That *was* interesting, wasn't it. I got the feeling that at least Tony realized what an ass he was making of himself, but Bevan had nary a clue. He was as out of it and as unconscious of what constitutes normal behavior as lifetime schizophrenics I
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No matter how much you protest against normal people not believing in TM, no matter how much you revile those of us who have common sense, no matter how much you ignore the reality of the Movement - THE MOVEMENT WILL NEVER BE SANE. Period. Nor will the Old Fraud ever become enlightened retroactively. The clip shows what a selfish childish self centered twit he was. None of your glossing it over and ignoring the obvious will make it any different. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else. When you've got an axe to grind, then you interpret things accordingly. You are no more free of bias than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? What sort of crappy excuse is that. Can you fly? is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed Maharishi Exposed This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:01 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a Sam Harris sez type pattern? Sam Harris has a certain appeal to authority for him - he seems to need that, which would explain why he has spent so much time and money in the pursuit of a guru almost his entire adult life. If he wants Harris to be his current teacher, he could do worse. Apparently Barry seems comfortable with a few books, a TV set and some pirated movies to watch while posting to social media. It's not complicated. Barry is not much into actual group practice of any form of meditation, yoga or martial art training, apparently. In contrast, Harris had spend years studying and practicing under a Tibetan Lama, earning a Black Belt and a Ph.D. in neuro-science. The main problem with the secular approach to meditation training is that when you remove the Buddhism from the practice, you've left out all the interesting mood-making; all the saving grace and the inspiration. Instead of transcending into bliss, you just stay on the surface level of the mind concentrating on your breathing. Anyone can learn to practice meditation in just a few minutes from a book - the actual practice may be not so easy - as I found out sitting at the San Francisco Zen Center. Try this simple experiment: just sit for one hour without moving. If you are like me, meditation is way more more joyful if you have a seed thought to return to. The problem is that almost all Tibetan meditation training involves the Buddhist religion to a certain degree. Barry has stated on numerous occasions that he doe not believe in some aspects of the Buddhist doctrine: The Four Noble Truths, the Eightfold Path and the Chain of Dependent Arising. Go figure. And, everyone knows that Tibetan Buddhism has as many, if not more, mood-making tools at your disposal, than almost any religion on the planet. The problem is the will-to-believe: if you don't believe in the enlightenment tradition, you might as well take a nap on the bed, and just try to relax. I mean according to Barry, half the internet has read his book. sorta funny, I think ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. -- *From:* geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs [image: image] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Sure, I understand that those questions are awkward. I understand that it is the reporters job to ask those questions. I also understand that the reporter didn't like the answers to those questions, and that was evident. Sure a reporter will press the interviewee. But a reporter shouldn't show an obvious bias. If you did not see the bias, and underlying anger of the reporter when interviewing Bevan at the end of the segment than either you are missing something, or I am missing something. The John Knapp portion constituted about 20% of the interview. I thought his statements were exaggerated and full of inaccuracies. Obviously you see it differently. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Maybe some day your repeating saying so, will make it so. And you show no sign of letting up, so I guess we'll be able to see if that's the case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : No matter how much you protest against normal people not believing in TM, no matter how much you revile those of us who have common sense, no matter how much you ignore the reality of the Movement - THE MOVEMENT WILL NEVER BE SANE. Period. Nor will the Old Fraud ever become enlightened retroactively. The clip shows what a selfish childish self centered twit he was. None of your glossing it over and ignoring the obvious will make it any different. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else. When you've got an axe to grind, then you interpret things accordingly. You are no more free of bias than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? What sort of crappy excuse is that. Can you fly? is a perfectly reasonable question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all. Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. *Compared to looking at Barry sitting inside a cafe next to a canal posting to social media?* I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) *Compared to students studying computer science and watching levitation demonstrations?* Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. *Compared to what rational people in the real world think of Barry's levitation claims?* -- *From:* geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs [image: image] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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*Some people will sink to the lowest level in order to win a religious debate, down to and including using the tragic murder of thousands of innocent children - if a massacre will help them make their point. I'm only posting this so it's on record and so we know exactly what we a dealing with in these discussions.* *where is Edg when we need him?* *Equating a debate opponent with a Nazi is considered to be universally stupid on social media and in fact, is a crime in many European countries. But, apparently it's not included in the FFL Guidelines. Go figure.* On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Richard, I like you. So wrt MJ calling Nabby a Nazi, please do not hold your breathe waiting for an apology! On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:42 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Eggg-cellent! *You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a Nazi or to Dan for equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not?* -- *From:* geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs [image: image] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Yep, a hack. He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and the reality of our spiritual experience underlying. He had a story constructed before he came in. Hence, Transcendental to the ignorant while attacking the illumination of reality in others. The guy obviously came in marinated in intellectual skepticism. He and his wall of hostility is quite sad journalism really without much of any professional objectivity. He was proly paid really well by 60-Minutes for having mucked around. -Buck Feste37 writes: Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Yep, a hack. He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and the reality of our spiritual experience underlying. He had a story constructed before he came in. It's called sanity. You should try it sometime, possibly with a side order of respect for real science.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Yep, a hack. He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and the reality of our spiritual experience underlying. He had a story constructed before he came in. It's called sanity. You should try it sometime, possibly with a side order of respect for real science. So proclaims Professor Magillicuddy PhD of all things scientific and provable.
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Yep, a hack. He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and the reality of our spiritual experience underlying. He had a story constructed before he came in. It's called sanity. You should try it sometime, possibly with a side order of respect for real science. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: So proclaims Professor Magillicuddy PhD of all things scientific and provable. Respect for real science by a real science writer: What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for a while. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:44 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. So, you don't want to talk about Rotherham. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. -- *From:* s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. -- *From:* geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs [image: image] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature
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I am sure you are right about the nastiness of the BBC, which continually covered up for the necrophiliac psychopathic monster Jimmy Saville. But this Australian 60 Minutes segment was biased and hostile from start to finish. It doesn't take a genius to see it. Just to give one example from what I remember, the reporter referred to MUM as a so-called university. Wrong. It's an accredited university and is this year celebrating its 40th anniversary here in Fairfield. There's nothing so-called about it. You might as well refer to Iowa Wesleyan College, just 20 miles down the road from it, as a so-called college. (And having taught at both, I can tell you that MUM has brighter students, in my experience.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually.
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feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Barry, this is why, if you are so inclined, it is really a good idea to follow Sam Harris's advice and choose a guru carefully. You studied with a teacher, who has apparently taught you to avoid reality, or provided you with nothing to rid yourself of some pesky past impressions, a la TM and Maharishi. You rant and you rave, but the freedom you seek, through your own enlightenment eludes you, and you express this drivel instead. The kind of self righteous anger and indignation you work yourself up into, is a waste of your time, a waste of my time, and a waste of everyone else's, except Michael's. You let yourself be consumed in every way possible, though mental distraction, pointing fingers everywhere - but even your phalanx of digits cannot protect you from yourself. So let's hear it - What have you done lately, and just this once, watching the tv, doesn't count. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. It's more than a little scary that people like sometimes-rational feste don't see the insanity in this news clip that 99.99% of the world's population would see. Maharishi is just fuckin' GONE, man, which one might attribute just to senility and old age, if it weren't for the fact that most of the other people who represent the TMO in the segment are equally GONE. Bevan has never *been* more embarrassing than he was in this bit, and that's really saying something. I still think that a lot of it w.r.t. the brainwashing is the frog in the pot syndrome. Yeah, I know it's probably a real phenomenon, but the metaphor was that if you put a frog in a pot of hot water, he recognizes the threat to life and just jumps out. Put a frog in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, and he'll just sit there and allow himself to be boiled to death because he gets used to it in small increments. That's what happened to formerly rational TMers. The brainwashing snuck up on them over a period of years and decades. Over that time they got used to seeing things around them that would sent had them running for the exits if they'd been allowed to see them during their first months with TM, but by the time they *did* get to see them they'd been trained to consider these things normal. This is what is scariest to normal 99.99% people watching clips like this one. It's *not* the craziness of the principals, like Maharishi and Bevan and King Tony -- it's the craziness of people like feste who make excuses for them, and write off their obvious insanity by claiming the interview was a hatchet job. Now *that* is scary. You'd almost *expect* the leaders of a worldwide cult to be crazy, but the everyday followers of the cult? When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside not to see it. Exactly. Part of the *definition* of being on the inside is having been sufficiently brainwashed to consider these levels of insanity normal. The scariest part, from my point of view, is that once one has made an internal (and rarely conscious) decision to accept this level of craziness as normal, it's very, very, very, very difficult to ever be able to see it another way. Once brainwashed, people tend to *stay* brainwashed, unless they have a great deal of personal power and will and an inability to be coerced by cult peer pressure. Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? He was *clearly* reacting to the reporter's 'tude, which refused to give him the suck-up obeisance he'd gotten used to getting from almost everyone. So he did what all Narcissistic Personality Disordered people do in situations like that, and tried to regain control by stalking off. Think Robin Carlsen stalking off from FFL when no one would treat *him* the way he expected to
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house of cards? Yes, please back up your 18 wheeler, full of past resentment, load on your house of cards, too, and drive the whole mess, elsewhere. feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et all, while the trucking crew is busy, let's have a party in the meantime! Champagne (actually California sparkling wine, produced by methode champenoise), anyone? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:08 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Barry, this is why, if you are so inclined, it is really a good idea to follow Sam Harris's advice and choose a guru carefully. You studied with a teacher, who has apparently taught you to avoid reality, or provided you with nothing to rid yourself of some pesky past impressions, a la TM and Maharishi. Dr. Frederick Lenz was a good English teacher but maybe not so good as a spiritual guru. For the record, Rama never claimed to be able to levitate and do any magic tricks - that's just stuff Barry made up in his puffed-up pride and arrogance. In fact, most of the things Lenz wrote and said were very much based on the reality of the spiritual life. Barry just got mixed up and got a lot of things backwards. Go figure. http://www.ramaquotes.com/tree.html You rant and you rave, but the freedom you seek, through your own enlightenment eludes you, and you express this drivel instead. The kind of self righteous anger and indignation you work yourself up into, is a waste of your time, a waste of my time, and a waste of everyone else's, except Michael's. He does seem to get water to reach it's own level. But, I am surprised he was able to cow xeno into his little filtering game. Some people are highly probe to suggestions. So, we can see that Barry does have some influence around here, at least with a few newbie nerds. You let yourself be consumed in every way possible, though mental distraction, pointing fingers everywhere - but even your phalanx of digits cannot protect you from yourself. So let's hear it - What have you done lately, and just this once, watching the tv, doesn't count. You have to realize,Jim, that Barry leads a very simple spiritual life - a few good books, a snack at a cafe or a drink at a bar, and posting to social media. For some people that's all there is to their daily spiritual practice. They just don't have the discipline to get up early to meditate and then go for a walk to enjoy nature or a drive around town to see the sights with their daughter. Some people are just not very motivated, or free, or are able - to afford a wheeled vehicle. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation. It's more than a little scary that people like sometimes-rational feste don't see the insanity in this news clip that 99.99% of the world's population would see. Maharishi is just fuckin' GONE, man, which one might attribute just to senility and old age, if it weren't for the fact that most of the other people who represent the TMO in the segment are equally GONE. Bevan has never *been* more embarrassing than he was in this bit, and that's really saying something. I still think that a lot of it w.r.t. the brainwashing is the frog in the pot syndrome. Yeah, I know it's probably a real phenomenon, but the metaphor was that if you put a frog in a pot of hot water, he recognizes the threat to life and just jumps out. Put a frog in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, and he'll just sit there and allow himself to be boiled to death because he gets used to it in small increments. That's what happened to formerly rational TMers. The brainwashing snuck up on them over a period of years and decades. Over that time they got used to seeing things around them that would sent had them running for the exits if they'd been allowed to see them during their first months with TM, but by the time they *did* get to see them they'd been trained to consider these things normal. This is what is scariest to normal 99.99% people watching clips like this one. It's *not* the craziness of the principals, like Maharishi and Bevan and King Tony -- it's the craziness of people like feste who make excuses for them, and write off their obvious insanity by claiming the interview was a hatchet job. Now *that* is scary. You'd almost *expect* the leaders of a worldwide cult to be crazy, but the everyday followers of the cult? When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some
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any university that teaches and preaches that Hindu priests can change the world through butter and chanting sacrifices is some sort of science, not to mention the idea that foam hopping as scientifically verified positive effects on society is definitely so-called. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over I am sure you are right about the nastiness of the BBC, which continually covered up for the necrophiliac psychopathic monster Jimmy Saville. But this Australian 60 Minutes segment was biased and hostile from start to finish. It doesn't take a genius to see it. Just to give one example from what I remember, the reporter referred to MUM as a so-called university. Wrong. It's an accredited university and is this year celebrating its 40th anniversary here in Fairfield. There's nothing so-called about it. You might as well refer to Iowa Wesleyan College, just 20 miles down the road from it, as a so-called college. (And having taught at both, I can tell you that MUM has brighter students, in my experience.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually.
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I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real life. Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the TMO, but I suspect that is not the case. We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many other ways as well. To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: any university that teaches and preaches that Hindu priests can change the world through butter and chanting sacrifices is some sort of science, not to mention the idea that foam hopping as scientifically verified positive effects on society is definitely so-called. *You are definitely prejudiced against Hindus. There are thousands of universities the world over that preach that prayer can have a positive effect on society. Even foam hopping or levitating up off of a sofa can change some people's world. Ask Barry if you don't believe me.* -- *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:01 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over I am sure you are right about the nastiness of the BBC, which continually covered up for the necrophiliac psychopathic monster Jimmy Saville. But this Australian 60 Minutes segment was biased and hostile from start to finish. It doesn't take a genius to see it. Just to give one example from what I remember, the reporter referred to MUM as a so-called university. Wrong. It's an accredited university and is this year celebrating its 40th anniversary here in Fairfield. There's nothing so-called about it. You might as well refer to Iowa Wesleyan College, just 20 miles down the road from it, as a so-called college. (And having taught at both, I can tell you that MUM has brighter students, in my experience.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. -- *From:* s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually.
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and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy graciously gave you? Or a rut? From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real life. Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the TMO, but I suspect that is not the case. We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many other ways as well. To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife
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like I said, impervious to any evidence to the contrary ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy graciously gave you? Or a rut? From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real life. Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the TMO, but I suspect that is not the case. We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many other ways as well. To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy graciously gave you? Or a rut? *Non sequitur. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.* -- *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real life. Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the TMO, but I suspect that is not the case. We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many other ways as well. To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart. -- *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face. Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive. The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can have its advantages. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't logically answer. -- *From:* s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese
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Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed Maharishi Exposed This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:03 AM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. You suck, troll. The narrator suggests that Mahesh believes people can fly. This is, of course, nonsense. Mahesh believes nothing of the kind. BUT he knows for a certainty that people believe he can teach them to fly ... see the difference. As con artists go, Mahesh gets very high (and dubious) marks? - Sudarsha Namaskar Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs [image: image] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Eggg-cellent! From: geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed Maharishi Exposed This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:03 AM, geezerfreak@... mailto:geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. You suck, troll. Woah, wait a minute, you were saying yesterday that TM is simply a relaxation technique. And that anyone who takes the rest of it seriously is an idiot as we are already enlightened. You sound a bit confused. And I don't think posting a video about Marshy - featuring an interview with said gentleman - on a TM discussion group really qualifies as trolling. Maybe you just don't like the unvarnished opinions of someone concerned about TM shenanigans in their country? Maybe you're just a bit sensitive for some reason. How's the flying coming along? Chortle. The narrator suggests that Mahesh believes people can fly. This is, of course, nonsense. Mahesh believes nothing of the kind. BUT he knows for a certainty that people believe he can teach them to fly ... see the difference. As con artists go, Mahesh gets very high (and dubious) marks? - Sudarsha Namaskar Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Eggg-cellent! *You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a Nazi or to Dan for equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not?* -- *From:* geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs [image: image] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Richard, I like you. So wrt MJ calling Nabby a Nazi, please do not hold your breathe waiting for an apology! On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:42 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Eggg-cellent! You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a Nazi or to Dan for equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not? From: geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed Maharishi Exposed This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo
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Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a Sam Harris sez type pattern? I mean according to Barry, half the internet has read his book. sorta funny, I think ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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It has been quite a few years since bawee could nuzzle up to a big shot (its kinda his 'thing'), and with Cockburn not sending him any backstage passes, it looks like Harris is the lucky recipient of fanboy's over the top adulation. It is embarrassing to watch, but fascinating too - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a Sam Harris sez type pattern? I mean according to Barry, half the internet has read his book. sorta funny, I think ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : It has been quite a few years since bawee could nuzzle up to a big shot (its kinda his 'thing'), and with Cockburn not sending him any backstage passes, it looks like Harris is the lucky recipient of fanboy's over the top adulation. It is embarrassing to watch, but fascinating too - Girding our loins, now that is hilarious. Reminds me of some Charles Heston movie. Of course, bawee and those who think like him (no one actually thinks like him, but those who bother to listen to him and agree) are girders as well. They just love getting their loins all girded in order to throw the same old, same old at the rest of us - most of whom just watch, listen and laugh. What does he think we do - fall into apoplexy when he criticizes cults or TM or Maharishi? It is a sight to behold, loins and all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a Sam Harris sez type pattern? I mean according to Barry, half the internet has read his book. sorta funny, I think bawee will idolize anyone he thinks is annoying those he dislikes. Right now it appears to be Mr Harris. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right.
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I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. Too funny. bawee knows so many people personallyon this tape. Would that include MMY? Personally? Bevan? Tell us. Who else, the reporter? Oh, yes he must be one of the lurking reporters. Now I get it. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. A, I didn't know that. Rational people in the real world. I'd like to find these people and this place. Do they and does such a thing really exist? Think bawee, for once in your God-forsaken life, think. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Re I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. : Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of serious journalism. If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals. To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed to be serene when their end comes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Yes, was quite dated. Not at all how the new TM movement is today. -Buck Feste37 writes: I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's questions very well, actually. fleetwood_macncheese wrote : Excellent find, prison boy! That reporter came in all arrogant, and muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. urquoiseb wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
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Well, it seems like Barry had a lot riding on this release. Highly anticipated by him. It doesn't look like he's getting the response he hoped for, even with half the internet.. Or maybe it was all the ground rules he laid down. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : It has been quite a few years since bawee could nuzzle up to a big shot (its kinda his 'thing'), and with Cockburn not sending him any backstage passes, it looks like Harris is the lucky recipient of fanboy's over the top adulation. It is embarrassing to watch, but fascinating too - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a Sam Harris sez type pattern? I mean according to Barry, half the internet has read his book. sorta funny, I think ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Great find, Geez. It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, I mean...its surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*. :-) :-) :-) Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a hit job. This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're right. From: geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in. Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs Preview by Yahoo
