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?) got his manner from the Injuns he professed to despise. How did they evolve it? But the main question is, why didn't we just adopt it from the land when we were born? How did the invaders consciousness override the local powers emanating from the land? What Marshy also seemed to want here is the re-establishment of the country's religions. These were static societies that weren't great places to live because they had such a limited world view. They couldn't change because, like any religion, they are defined by the beliefs about what they are and a lot of their energy goes into simply maintaining the rigidity of the beliefs. Seems to me like we are much better off these days, I can't imagine what a world would be like if we'd all stuck to what the founders thought. Be worse still if we tried to go back to it because, practically speaking, there wasn't much advantage for them and any of our recent progress gives us a far superior ability to survive and understand the world. But then, with their high mortality rate and inferior technology these primitive societies were effectively sustainable, which os more than can be said for us at the moment! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaking skills, and skills for dealing with the public. A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went
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One reason income is no longer functional is the benchmarks we have used to measure them have been tinkered with, starting in about 1980. If you use the current U.S. CPI to measure how far you are ahead or behind, guess what? The economies are broken all over the world. Today we are watching to see if Greece will break first. It is not just uber rich, but the governments as well. The rich know how to game the system and the politicians go along with the game, not many are vocal about this, and seem to be either ignorant of or complicit in the deception. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The real question would be how functional is your income? How does it compare to 20 years ago? Are you slowly and stealthily being pushed into austerity? The other day I heard someone exclaim the economy is great again! I had half a notion to ask where they got that information. They must have one of those gigs in the government that is paying well for now. Fact is many people don't have enough savings to get themselves out of a fix if an emergency occurs. People who could and want to work until they are much older can't get work even though they have tremendous experience. Young folks come out of college with degrees but training that is mainly theoretical but worse yet a huge college debt and too high of expectations. In reality the economy is broken. Raided by the uber rich with their big banks. It really is time for a global revolution and that doesn't mean a new world order.
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It's all about the uber rich because as you point out in your last sentence they own the government. We have very few legislators, like Bernie Sanders, who actually represent the people. And people like him are hemmed in anyway. On 06/24/2015 09:46 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: [Attachment(s) #TopText from anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] included below] One reason income is no longer functional is the benchmarks we have used to measure them have been tinkered with, starting in about 1980. If you use the current U.S. CPI to measure how far you are ahead or behind, guess what? The economies are broken all over the world. Today we are watching to see if Greece will break first. It is not just uber rich, but the governments as well. The rich know how to game the system and the politicians go along with the game, not many are vocal about this, and seem to be either ignorant of or complicit in the deception. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The real question would be how functional is your income? How does it compare to 20 years ago? Are you slowly and stealthily being pushed into austerity? The other day I heard someone exclaim the economy is great again! I had half a notion to ask where they got that information. They must have one of those gigs in the government that is paying well for now. Fact is many people don't have enough savings to get themselves out of a fix if an emergency occurs. People who could and want to work until they are much older can't get work even though they have tremendous experience. Young folks come out of college with degrees but training that is mainly theoretical but worse yet a huge college debt and too high of expectations. In reality the economy is broken. Raided by the uber rich with their big banks. It really is time for a global revolution and that doesn't mean a new world order.
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because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaki! ng skills, and skills for dealing with the public. A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and! it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about! as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
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On 06/24/2015 12:06 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The real question would be how functional is your income? How does it compare to 20 years ago? Are you slowly and stealthily being pushed into austerity? If you're a home owner nearing retirement then you are OK. Almost everyone else is feeling the pinch, the poor get it worse. The very poor get it the absolute worst. I'm sure this is because they either don't vote or don't vote Tory. As long as your home holds it's value and the housing market doesn't crash again. A lot of boomers used their retirement funds to stay in their house until read to downsize. Right now, around here, is a good time to sell since one can get their retirement money back. Pensioners are protected from benefit cuts as they are most likely to vote and organise into a mass movement. In the US, idiots who run cities and counties started promising pensions that would keep on paying the same when retired as when they are working. No one seemed to ask how does that work? Pensions at 50% of salary is probably doable but it was really a move by Wall Street to get their hands on pension funds to gamble with. This is why we have cities charging fees on minor traffic offenses that are bankrupting people. There is a movement in the US against this practice. I keep telling the locals to overthrow the local government and start anew. Revolution from the bottom up. Changes to employment laws have made job security a thing of the past and thus increased the sense of angst. Then there's house prices and high rents. It aint a pretty picture but don't worry, the government and all their donors in the city with their tax breaks and cheap shares in public property are doing just fine. The other day I heard someone exclaim the economy is great again! I had half a notion to ask where they got that information. They must have one of those gigs in the government that is paying well for now. Fact is many people don't have enough savings to get themselves out of a fix if an emergency occurs. People who could and want to work until they are much older can't get work even though they have tremendous experience. Young folks come out of college with degrees but training that is mainly theoretical but worse yet a huge college debt and too high of expectations. In reality the economy is broken. Raided by the uber rich with their big banks. It really is time for a global revolution and that doesn't mean a new world order. On 06/23/2015 11:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Re Seems to me like we are much better off these days, I can't imagine what a world would be like if we'd all stuck to what the founders thought:
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they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaking skills, and skills for dealing with the public. A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The fellow in the glasses in the video has a pretty good explanation of austerity in the UK - you agree Sal? Yep, that's certainly part of it. It has definitely changed society for the worse. There's an element of fear about what's coming next and anger because it's entirely ideological, they don't need to do it to save the economy it's totally unnecessary, they inherited a growing economy and used the banking crisis as an excuse to reshape the place how they'd like it to be. But the cool thing about the video is that I was lying down on the grass next to them when they were setting up the camera. I've got a video of them on my phone I took as I'd slept for an hour and woken up to find people still pouring into the square which brought a little tear of happiness to my eye, so I did a 360 degree vid to capture the moment and the RTcrew are all on it. You can also see the fuckers placard next to the interviewers left shoulder, I'd probably be in the video if I hadn't spotted it and got off the wall to go
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Here's what sorta blows my mind. Apart from the rally, London is the most visited tourist destination in the world, and you are right there. I am not sure why that causes some cognitive dissonance to think that it is just a hop, skip and a jump away, for you, when people may plan for months and budget many thousands of dollars to go there. Just some musings. I feel like that about Fairfield. All those wonders I could never get bored of just on your doorstep, probably keep you busy for several lifetimes. But I know plenty of people who live in London that never go out and drink in it's wonders, all those museums and galleries and old churches and historic walks, the docks and parks and shops and the river with its endless cafes and the world famous scenery that never gets boring. I don't blame them for wanting to come and visit but if you come and there's a major demo on you've got to join in. Unless it turns into a riot and you end up spending six months being detained at her majesty's pleasure. That might not be so good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, you were there. I guess you know. The quick scanning I did, indicated there may have been tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. I think the way they operate is that saying tens of thousands is technically true as saying hundreds of thousands but said in a measly way to make it seem like something they don't like isn't as popular as it really is. And if they went along and filmed the carnival atmosphere even more people would go. It's like Glastonbury without the music and with people shouting at you instead. Quite refreshing if you've seen who plays at festivals these days... The number of people showing up at rallys is often a matter of contention. You aren't kidding here. The police figures used to be as hilariously skewed as the organisers. Pick a number halfway between the two and that was probably bearer the mark. Fine, 250,000. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You couldn't make it up. A casual observer might wonder why I'm giving a troll the pleasure of a response but I'm just trying to keep my actionable headline at the top of the list to annoy Doug. Fight the power! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Yes, I think that's a pretty common occurrence, taking for granted the unique features of where you live. Another thing that sort of blows my mind, is that my wife told me that someone in Great Britain was discovered to be in possession of a gun. It may have been a gun that was inherited from WWII. Well, something akin to a swat team descended on the house, and the man was arrested and there was the potential of a six year prison sentence or something along those lines. Apart from the debate of gun control, and what you think about that, the situation is so utterly different than what you have here. Yes, I know America is viewed as crazy for the amount of guns we have circulating, but it was the overwhelming response to the possession of one gun in a household, that rather shocked me. I think it's great. I am about as anti-gun as you can get so don't get me started. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Here's what sorta blows my mind. Apart from the rally, London is the most visited tourist destination in the world, and you are right there. I am not sure why that causes some cognitive dissonance to think that it is just a hop, skip and a jump away, for you, when people may plan for months and budget many thousands of dollars to go there. Just some musings. I feel like that about Fairfield. All those wonders I could never get bored of just on your doorstep, probably keep you busy for several lifetimes. But I know plenty of people who live in London that never go out and drink in it's wonders, all those museums and galleries and old churches and historic walks, the docks and parks and shops and the river with its endless cafes and the world famous scenery that never gets boring. I don't blame them for wanting to come and visit but if you come and there's a major demo on you've got to join in. Unless it turns into a riot and you end up spending six months being detained at her majesty's pleasure. That might not be so good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, you were there. I guess you know. The quick scanning I did, indicated there may have been tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. I think the way they operate is that saying tens of thousands is technically true as saying hundreds of thousands but said in a measly way to make it seem like something they don't like isn't as popular as it really is. And if they went along and filmed the carnival atmosphere even more people would go. It's like Glastonbury without the music and with people shouting at you instead. Quite refreshing if you've seen who plays at festivals these days... The number of people showing up at rallys is often a matter of contention. You aren't kidding here. The police figures used to be as hilariously skewed as the organisers. Pick a number halfway between the two and that was probably bearer the mark. Fine, 250,000. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You couldn't make it up. A casual observer might wonder why I'm giving a
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The fellow in the glasses in the video has a pretty good explanation of austerity in the UK - you agree Sal? Yep, that's certainly part of it. It has definitely changed society for the worse. There's an element of fear about what's coming next and anger because it's entirely ideological, they don't need to do it to save the economy it's totally unnecessary, they inherited a growing economy and used the banking crisis as an excuse to reshape the place how they'd like it to be. But the cool thing about the video is that I was lying down on the grass next to them when they were setting up the camera. I've got a video of them on my phone I took as I'd slept for an hour and woken up to find people still pouring into the square which brought a little tear of happiness to my eye, so I did a 360 degree vid to capture the moment and the RTcrew are all on it. You can also see the fuckers placard next to the interviewers left shoulder, I'd probably be in the video if I hadn't spotted it and got off the wall to go take a photo. Shame that the only proper coverage of it appears on the Kremlin funded Russia Today, if only they turned their eye on corruption in their own country! http://rt.com/uk/268597-austerity-major-london-protest/ http://rt.com/uk/268597-austerity-major-london-protest/ From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, you were there. I guess you know. The quick scanning I did, indicated there may have been tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. I think the way they operate is that saying tens of thousands is technically true as saying hundreds of thousands but said in a measly way to make it seem like something they don't like isn't as popular as it really is. And if they went along and filmed the carnival atmosphere even more people would go. It's like Glastonbury without the music and with people shouting at you instead. Quite refreshing if you've seen who plays at festivals
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Yes, I think that's a pretty common occurrence, taking for granted the unique features of where you live. Another thing that sort of blows my mind, is that my wife told me that someone in Great Britain was discovered to be in possession of a gun. It may have been a gun that was inherited from WWII. Well, something akin to a swat team descended on the house, and the man was arrested and there was the potential of a six year prison sentence or something along those lines. Apart from the debate of gun control, and what you think about that, the situation is so utterly different than what you have here. Yes, I know America is viewed as crazy for the amount of guns we have circulating, but it was the overwhelming response to the possession of one gun in a household, that rather shocked me. I think it's great. I am about as anti-gun as you can get so don't get me started. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Here's what sorta blows my mind. Apart from the rally, London is the most visited tourist destination in the world, and you are right there. I am not sure why that causes some cognitive dissonance to think that it is just a hop, skip and a jump away, for you, when people may plan for months and budget many thousands of dollars to go there. Just some musings. I feel like that about Fairfield. All those wonders I could never get bored of just on your doorstep, probably keep you busy for several lifetimes. But I know plenty of people who live in London that never go out and drink in it's wonders, all those museums and galleries and old churches and historic walks, the docks and parks and shops and the river with its endless cafes and the world famous scenery that never gets boring. I don't blame them for wanting to come and visit but if you come and there's a major demo on you've got to join in. Unless it turns into a riot and you end up spending six months being detained at her majesty's pleasure. That might not be so good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, you were there. I guess you know. The quick scanning I did, indicated there may have been tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. I think the way they operate is that saying tens of thousands is technically true as saying hundreds of thousands but said in a measly way to make it seem like something they don't like isn't as popular as it really is. And if they went along and filmed the carnival atmosphere even more people would go. It's like Glastonbury without the music and with people shouting at you instead. Quite refreshing if you've seen who plays at festivals these days... The number of people showing up at rallys is often a matter of contention. You aren't kidding here. The police figures used to be as hilariously skewed as the organisers. Pick a number halfway between the two and that was probably bearer the mark. Fine, 250,000. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My goodness! So many things to respond to! I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. Did joo git in trouble for that at the TM academy? No, the directors quietly disapproved in a you aren't following the teaching kind of way but it wasn't considered an actionable offence. All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. Now you know this is fodder for you to get on Buck's bad side, don't you? Possibly even a bannable offense! Yellow card at most I reckon. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. Scathingly horrific comment, this means the rationale for MUM and all other TM facilities) existing is nonsense! And here Buck is stumping for MUM donations - and that means any donations will be a total waste of money. Damn, two yellow cards... But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. God Almighty Damn! Did they really do that after he said such things? Yes indeed, and I was amazed. I really felt like they would do anything if he suggested it but the creepy bit was the speed of the turn round, talk about aligning your thinking with the master! It didn't suit me of course, I felt that the original promise of TM was being more self reliant and listening to the inner voice more clearly so it seemed odd that people were letting someone else decide what they thought about things, Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. That is the first I have heard of this - I would love to know exactly what and when he said it all. Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced
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My goodness! So many things to respond to! I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. Did joo git in trouble for that at the TM academy? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. Now you know this is fodder for you to get on Buck's bad side, don't you? Possibly even a bannable offense! Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. Scathingly horrific comment, this means the rationale for MUM and all other TM facilities) existing is nonsense! And here Buck is stumping for MUM donations - and that means any donations will be an total waste of money. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. God Almighty Damn! Did they really do that after he said such things? Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. That is the first I have heard of this - I would love to know exactly what and when he said it all. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this.so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The fellow in the glasses in the video has a pretty good explanation of austerity in the UK - you agree Sal? Yep, that's certainly part of it. It has definitely changed society for the worse. There's an element of fear about what's coming next and anger because it's entirely ideological, they don't need to do it to save the economy it's totally unnecessary, they inherited a growing economy and used the banking crisis as an excuse to reshape the place how they'd like it to be. But the cool thing about the video
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaking skills, and skills for dealing with the public. A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The fellow in the glasses in the video has a pretty good explanation of austerity in the UK - you agree Sal? Yep, that's certainly part of it. It has definitely changed society for the worse. There's an element of fear about what's coming next and anger because it's entirely ideological, they don't need to do it to save the economy it's totally unnecessary, they inherited a growing economy and used the banking crisis as an excuse to reshape the place how they'd like it to be. But the cool thing about the video is that I was lying down on the grass next to them when they were setting up the camera. I've got a video of them on my phone I took as I'd slept
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). So did you guys find some Picts or Celts hiding about in some forgotten hollow or other? I can't remember who were designated the true rulers of the UK, according to the machinations of Natural Law, maybe no one was? It's a difficult place to get to the bottom off ethnically, it having been invaded so many times. I've got Scottish blood in my veins so I think it should be me. The madness persisted and developed though. I remember being on a big international course and Marshy declaring that the people from different countries should sit together in the flying room because their brainwaves would be more similar than those of people foreign to them. Thus, the coherence effect would be increased! I'm so glad I can put my hand on my heart and say I thought it was a load of crap back then and ignored the directive completely as I'd found a nice spot near window... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My goodness! So many things to respond to! I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. Did joo git in trouble for that at the TM academy? No, the directors quietly disapproved in a you aren't following the teaching kind of way but it wasn't considered an actionable offence. All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. Now you know this is fodder for you to get on Buck's bad side, don't you? Possibly even a bannable offense! Yellow card at most I reckon. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. Scathingly horrific comment, this means the rationale for MUM and all other TM facilities) existing is nonsense! And here Buck is stumping for MUM donations - and that means any donations will be a total waste of money. Damn, two yellow cards... But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. God Almighty Damn! Did they really do that after he said such things? Yes indeed, and I was amazed. I really felt like they would do anything if he suggested it but the creepy bit was the speed of the turn round, talk about aligning your thinking with the master! It didn't suit me of course, I felt that the original promise of TM was being more self reliant and listening to the inner voice more clearly so it seemed odd that people were letting someone else decide what they thought about things, Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. That is the first I have heard of this - I would love to know exactly what and when he said it all. Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better
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Re The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country: I wonder if there might be something in this. Could it be the case that a country is not simply a patch of real estate but is in some sense a living being in its own right? What I'm thinking of is William Blake's prophetic poem Jerusalem, the Emanation of Albion which tells the story of the fall of Albion, the Universal Humanity. In the poem, Albion is both a man and a land (Britain). Blake's idea of the divine Albion (the British Isles) would have parallels in other places. Can a land modify the behaviour of settlers who move into it - as Europeans did into north America? Is that so far-fetched an idea? Probably - but it does appeal to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaking skills, and skills for dealing with the public. A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Right, we never got top tier, but usually third tier, and maybe an occasional second tier. But, the third tiers were usually pretty open to getting recognized, even if it was a Maharishi Award. I remember during the Washington Ideal Society Campaign giving an award to a local Doctor or chemist who invented a burn remedy called FRST. I mean, it really meant something to him to be recognized, when his invention just wasn't getting any traction. Those were good times. One of my mates there would make fresh yogurt every day. Hung yogurt, I recall. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. In my academy I found tons of neatly filed letters from successful people in all walks of life politely refusing invitations to banquets etc. What a busy movement they were back in the day! I had a letter saying thank you for the Maharishi Award from the secretary of Maggie Thatcher in my office. I wish I'd kept all this stuff as it's priceless. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaking skills, and skills for dealing with the public. There's nothing like being forced to speak in public to toughen you up, I made many a grovelling introduction for the higher-ups and speeches at cake cutting ceremonies. What fun. Good cake too. : salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. It's typical of the cultish environment around Marshy that he could change the way people thought in an instant. Once upon a time people in the TMO were so India-centric they forgot about the culture they lived in, until he pronounced that we should respect the institutions we are born into, particularly undemocratic ones like royalty, the idea of an unbroken line of rulers appealed to him for some reason. But the thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see the trooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things like that. Then it switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, the American Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can't remember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someone there could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives in some countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. All this craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja was crowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:42 PM Subject: Re
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And people still think that jack ass was enlightened! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). So did you guys find some Picts or Celts hiding about in some forgotten hollow or other? I can't remember who were designated the true rulers of the UK, according to the machinations of Natural Law, maybe no one was? It's a difficult place to get to the bottom off ethnically, it having been invaded so many times. I've got Scottish blood in my veins so I think it should be me. The madness persisted and developed though. I remember being on a big international course and Marshy declaring that the people from different countries should sit together in the flying room because their brainwaves would be more similar than those of people foreign to them. Thus, the coherence effect would be increased! I'm so glad I can put my hand on my heart and say I thought it was a load of crap back then and ignored the directive completely as I'd found a nice spot near window... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My goodness! So many things to respond to! I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. Did joo git in trouble for that at the TM academy? No, the directors quietly disapproved in a you aren't following the teaching kind of way but it wasn't considered an actionable offence. All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. Now you know this is fodder for you to get on Buck's bad side, don't you? Possibly even a bannable offense! Yellow card at most I reckon. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. Scathingly horrific comment, this means the rationale for MUM and all other TM facilities) existing is nonsense! And here Buck is stumping for MUM donations - and that means any donations will be a total waste of money. Damn, two yellow cards... Butthe thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see thetrooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things likethat. God Almighty Damn! Did they really do that after he said such things? Yes indeed, and I was amazed. I really felt like they would do anything if he suggested it but the creepy bit was the speed of the turn round, talk about aligning your thinking with the master! It didn't suit me of course, I felt that the original promise of TM was being more self reliant and listening to the inner voice more clearly so it seemed odd that people were letting someone else decide what they thought about things, Thenit switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, theAmerican Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can'tremember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someonethere could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives insome countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. Allthis craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja wascrowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. That is the first I have heard of this - I would love to know exactly what and when he said it all. Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this.so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous
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Okay, you were there. I guess you know. The quick scanning I did, indicated there may have been tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. The number of people showing up at rallys is often a matter of contention. Fine, 250,000. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You couldn't make it up. A casual observer might wonder why I'm giving a troll the pleasure of a response but I'm just trying to keep my actionable headline at the top of the list to annoy Doug. Fight the power! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : you know , it's like the self referral state. It's a circular action. Self experiences self experiencing self. Fucker fucks fucking fucker fucking fucking fucker. kookookajube. Oh I get it. Sorry, I can't think as deeply about these things. I see a bunch of cool fuckers with a groovy sign and I take their photo. I leave the rest to the philosophers. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Well, it's self evident. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also? Eh? How do you work that out? They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
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So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). So did you guys find some Picts or Celts hiding about in some forgotten hollow or other? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My goodness! So many things to respond to! I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. Did joo git in trouble for that at the TM academy? No, the directors quietly disapproved in a you aren't following the teaching kind of way but it wasn't considered an actionable offence. All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. Now you know this is fodder for you to get on Buck's bad side, don't you? Possibly even a bannable offense! Yellow card at most I reckon. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes closed. Scathingly horrific comment, this means the rationale for MUM and all other TM facilities) existing is nonsense! And here Buck is stumping for MUM donations - and that means any donations will be a total waste of money. Damn, two yellow cards... Butthe thing to note is that everyone suddenly started going to see thetrooping of the colour at Buckingham palace and surreal things likethat. God Almighty Damn! Did they really do that after he said such things? Yes indeed, and I was amazed. I really felt like they would do anything if he suggested it but the creepy bit was the speed of the turn round, talk about aligning your thinking with the master! It didn't suit me of course, I felt that the original promise of TM was being more self reliant and listening to the inner voice more clearly so it seemed odd that people were letting someone else decide what they thought about things, Thenit switched to the original, indigenous rulers of the country, theAmerican Indians in your case and erm, the druids (?) in ours. I can'tremember how that pronouncement went down in Fairfield, maybe someonethere could give us the details? But I do remember TM representatives insome countries in South America having photo op's with tribal elders. Allthis craziness was forgotten in an instant when the first raja wascrowned as we suddenly had our own lineage. Astounding but true. That is the first I have heard of this - I would love to know exactly what and when he said it all. Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this.so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know. Heaven on Earth won't fall out of the sky at us while we've got our eyes
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Yes, I think that's a pretty common occurrence, taking for granted the unique features of where you live. Another thing that sort of blows my mind, is that my wife told me that someone in Great Britain was discovered to be in possession of a gun. It may have been a gun that was inherited from WWII. Well, something akin to a swat team descended on the house, and the man was arrested and there was the potential of a six year prison sentence or something along those lines. Apart from the debate of gun control, and what you think about that, the situation is so utterly different than what you have here. Yes, I know America is viewed as crazy for the amount of guns we have circulating, but it was the overwhelming response to the possession of one gun in a household, that rather shocked me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Here's what sorta blows my mind. Apart from the rally, London is the most visited tourist destination in the world, and you are right there. I am not sure why that causes some cognitive dissonance to think that it is just a hop, skip and a jump away, for you, when people may plan for months and budget many thousands of dollars to go there. Just some musings. I feel like that about Fairfield. All those wonders I could never get bored of just on your doorstep, probably keep you busy for several lifetimes. But I know plenty of people who live in London that never go out and drink in it's wonders, all those museums and galleries and old churches and historic walks, the docks and parks and shops and the river with its endless cafes and the world famous scenery that never gets boring. I don't blame them for wanting to come and visit but if you come and there's a major demo on you've got to join in. Unless it turns into a riot and you end up spending six months being detained at her majesty's pleasure. That might not be so good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Okay, you were there. I guess you know. The quick scanning I did, indicated there may have been tens of thousands instead of hundreds of thousands. I think the way they operate is that saying tens of thousands is technically true as saying hundreds of thousands but said in a measly way to make it seem like something they don't like isn't as popular as it really is. And if they went along and filmed the carnival atmosphere even more people would go. It's like Glastonbury without the music and with people shouting at you instead. Quite refreshing if you've seen who plays at festivals these days... The number of people showing up at rallys is often a matter of contention. You aren't kidding here. The police figures used to be as hilariously skewed as the organisers. Pick a number halfway between the two and that was probably bearer the mark. Fine, 250,000. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You couldn't make it up. A casual observer might wonder why I'm giving a troll the pleasure of a response but I'm just trying to keep my actionable headline at the top of the list to annoy Doug. Fight the power!
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country: I wonder if there might be something in this. Could it be the case that a country is not simply a patch of real estate but is in some sense a living being in its own right? What I'm thinking of is William Blake's prophetic poem Jerusalem, the Emanation of Albion which tells the story of the fall of Albion, the Universal Humanity. In the poem, Albion is both a man and a land (Britain). Blake's idea of the divine Albion (the British Isles) would have parallels in other places. Can a land modify the behaviour of settlers who move into it - as Europeans did into north America? Is that so far-fetched an idea? Probably - but it does appeal to me. I think it is a top notch notion and one with which I agree. Take a climate, a type of soil and certain weather and you create lifestyles and experiences and new routines and inspiration for everything from art to how to cultivate a field.
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It's a wonderful poem, that Jerusalem, S3raphita. It sounds like you know it well, which is rather amazing, since very few people do, unless they are Blake scholars. I lived with it for several years when I was studying Blake. This is the title page: Jerusalem, at the bottom, asleep, waiting for Albion to arise, who will then awaken her. Vala, the woman just above Jerusalem on the left, is awake, of course, since she is Nature, who holds sway while the spiritual value that Jerusalem represents sleeps. Perhaps you know all this. Jerusalem The Emanation of The Giant Albion, copy E, c. 1821 (Yale Center for British Art): electronic edition http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no Jerusalem The Emanation of The Giant Albion, copy E, c. ... http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no View on www.blakearchive.org http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country: I wonder if there might be something in this. Could it be the case that a country is not simply a patch of real estate but is in some sense a living being in its own right? What I'm thinking of is William Blake's prophetic poem Jerusalem, the Emanation of Albion which tells the story of the fall of Albion, the Universal Humanity. In the poem, Albion is both a man and a land (Britain). Blake's idea of the divine Albion (the British Isles) would have parallels in other places. Can a land modify the behaviour of settlers who move into it - as Europeans did into north America? Is that so far-fetched an idea? Probably - but it does appeal to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must have been around 1999/2000 up until the introduction of raja's. The idea was that the people who lived in the country first were closest to the natural laws of the country because they had the folk medicines that come from closeness to nature and things like that. So they were most likely to make the best rulers (in Marshy's thinking). I was quite the foot soldier, and it was many a celebration I organized during my teaching days, giving out an Ideal Society Awards, or some such thing to leaders in different fields. Usually, they were quite honored to be recognized, even if they weren't quite sure what it was all about. Seems like a distant memory, but it did hone my public speaking skills, and skills for dealing with the public. A search went up from the long term staff in every country to find the indigenous people's elders and announce a partnership with the TMO dignifying their right to the throne (if they were interested). I wish, wish,wish I'd kept some pics or a video. But as movement trends go it lasted about the usual time, a few years and it was a distant memory due to Tony Nader's discovery of ved in human physiology, consequent rajadom and the rest is a history we all know. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well that is cool, I had no idea - I was really just looking around to see what numbers were being bandied about as to how many participants there were and I stumbled on this. so how many TM'ers were there? Any rajas show up? Any TMers on a demo? You're kidding right! One of Marshy's most dangerous pronouncements was that we (meaning people who do TM) shouldn't go on demonstrations because our energies are better used to change society by influencing nature at the level of the unified field . This worried me because a lot of the people who got into TM were idealists who wanted a better world and some I know where involved in groups like the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, but not once they'd met the reesh. I was the only one at the academy who went on the anti-war march in London in 2003 for instance. It would be great if TM was an effective way of influencing world events but it after all these years it should be obvious it isn't. Maybe it's also obvious that demonstrations don't change world events all that much but they are at least visible to people who may not be aware of what is going on, and if everyone who cared got active we could do something surely? All those once enthusiastic people sitting around in the domes is a waste of manpower. The world won't save itself y'know
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's a wonderful poem, that Jerusalem, S3raphita. It sounds like you know it well, which is rather amazing, since very few people do, unless they are Blake scholars. I lived with it for several years when I was studying Blake. This is the title page: Jerusalem, at the bottom, asleep, waiting for Albion to arise, who will then awaken her. Vala, the woman just above Jerusalem on the left, is awake, of course, since she is Nature, who holds sway while the spiritual value that Jerusalem represents sleeps. Perhaps you know all this. Seraphita is a scholar among us. She knows a lot. Jerusalem The Emanation of The Giant Albion, copy E, c. 1821 (Yale Center for British Art): electronic edition http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no Jerusalem The Emanation of The Giant Albion, copy E, c. ... http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no View on www.blakearchive.org http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.02java=no Preview by Yahoo
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also? Eh? How do you work that out? They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You couldn't make it up. A casual observer might wonder why I'm giving a troll the pleasure of a response but I'm just trying to keep my actionable headline at the top of the list to annoy Doug. Fight the power! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
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Well, it's self evident. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also? Eh? How do you work that out? They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you #yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509 -- #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp #yiv8234658509hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp #yiv8234658509ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp .yiv8234658509ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp .yiv8234658509ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-mkp .yiv8234658509ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-sponsor #yiv8234658509ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-sponsor #yiv8234658509ygrp-lc #yiv8234658509hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509ygrp-sponsor #yiv8234658509ygrp-lc .yiv8234658509ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8234658509 #yiv8234658509activity span .yiv8234658509underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8234658509 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8234658509 .yiv8234658509bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8234658509 dd.yiv8234658509last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
you know , it's like the self referral state. It's a circular action. Self experiences self experiencing self. Fucker fucks fucking fucker fucking fucking fucker. kookookajube. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Well, it's self evident. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also? Eh? How do you work that out? They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you #yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430 -- #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp #yiv7656136430hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp #yiv7656136430ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp .yiv7656136430ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp .yiv7656136430ad p {margin:0;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-mkp .yiv7656136430ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-sponsor #yiv7656136430ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-sponsor #yiv7656136430ygrp-lc #yiv7656136430hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430ygrp-sponsor #yiv7656136430ygrp-lc .yiv7656136430ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv7656136430 #yiv7656136430activity span .yiv7656136430underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7656136430 .yiv7656136430attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv7656136430 .yiv7656136430attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7656136430 .yiv7656136430attach img
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Hehe, I almost posted asking if you were there when I saw the news item yesterday but figured you weren't. Now I see I should have. :-D Oh I never miss a chance to rage against the powers that be, especially when the Tories are in power. If you don't say something loudly the out-of-touch authorities just assume you approve of them. You would have loved it I'm sure. There were some great speakers and a real sense that the revolution has started. The first step is finding out who is in for the long fight and it looks like there are plenty of concerned souls all making plans for action to bring down the Eton toffs. Whether anything will come of it I don't know, but you've got to try we'll have more rallies and parties. Hopefully the MSM will have more to say about it than simply mentioning that former choir girl Charlotte Church was there. On 06/21/2015 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we d! idn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Hehe, I almost posted asking if you were there when I saw the news item yesterday but figured you weren't. Now I see I should have. :-D On 06/21/2015 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we d! idn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. Any time. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? Really? Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Copulate is the better word to use here
-Original Message- From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2015 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Couple questions - did you see any of your TM True Believer chums in amongst the rabble? Where did all of you go to the loo? If you believe any of the TM stuff, one must believe that the policies of any government are created out of the collective stress, pain, fear, paranoia etc in the awareness of the people, therefore such boots on the ground actions as you took yesterday can never be effective means of change because it will not remove or transform the individual or collective fear etc in the minds and hearts of the people. Did you suggest to anyone that they might try TM or some such esoteric society changer? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Couple questions - did you see any of your TM True Believer chums in amongst the rabble? Where did all of you go to the loo? If you believe any of the TM stuff, one must believe that the policies of any government are created out of the collective stress, pain, fear, paranoia etc in the awareness of the people, therefore such boots on the ground actions as you took yesterday can never be effective means of change because it will not remove or transform the individual or collective fear etc in the minds and hearts of the people. Did you suggest to anyone that they might try TM or some such esoteric society changer? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 3:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you #yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295 -- #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp #yiv4561915295hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp #yiv4561915295ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp .yiv4561915295ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp .yiv4561915295ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-mkp .yiv4561915295ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-sponsor #yiv4561915295ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-sponsor #yiv4561915295ygrp-lc #yiv4561915295hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295ygrp-sponsor #yiv4561915295ygrp-lc .yiv4561915295ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4561915295 #yiv4561915295activity span .yiv4561915295underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4561915295 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4561915295 .yiv4561915295bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4561915295 dd.yiv4561915295last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4561915295
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you #yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360 -- #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp #yiv0188697360hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp #yiv0188697360ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp .yiv0188697360ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp .yiv0188697360ad p {margin:0;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-mkp .yiv0188697360ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-sponsor #yiv0188697360ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-sponsor #yiv0188697360ygrp-lc #yiv0188697360hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360ygrp-sponsor #yiv0188697360ygrp-lc .yiv0188697360ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv0188697360 #yiv0188697360activity span .yiv0188697360underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv0188697360 .yiv0188697360bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 dd.yiv0188697360last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0188697360 dd.yiv0188697360last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv0188697360 dd.yiv0188697360last p span.yiv0188697360yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360file-title a, #yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360file-title a:active, #yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360file-title a:hover, #yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv0188697360 div.yiv0188697360photo-title