Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-27 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 I saw the Cooper show last
 night.The guardian 
 said he thought that the rift between Michael and
 the parents may 
 have ocurred at a time when Michael accepted what
 all the doctors 
 had been saying, that Terri was brain dead,

The problem is that she is not brain dead, she's only
partially brain dead. Her cerebral cortex is mostly
dead from lack of oxygen 15 years ago. Her hindbrain
and probably part of her midbrain are keeping her body
alive. So she, most likely, has no cognitive or
emotional experience. To me, this is no reason to kill
her though. If someone wants to keep her alive, why
not let them.
-Peter 

















and the
 parents could 
 not accept it. If Euthanasia was legal then Michael 
 could just say 
 it was euthanasia, instead he has to state that
 these were Terri's 
 wishes. If Euthanaisia was legal, it would be
 possible to medicate 
 Terri. Chopra had some interesting points. He said
 that both sides 
 were coming from love and compassion. He said that
 with the advance 
 in science we have defined death. He said that if
 you take an organ 
 out of the body, you can keep it alive in a petri
 dish, but that 
 does not constitute life. He said Terri's eeg was
 non-existent, 
 therefore she is already dead according to science.
 He also said she 
 had no awareness and could not suffer. 
 My Advanced directive requests pulling the plug but
 giving morphine 
 to be sure there is no pain.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-27 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz
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 wrote:
  Brain dead or not, I am sure there is some Karma
 burning
  involved in staying alive also in this state. 
  
  Why postpone burning burning this karma?
  
  Or maybe the Karma is drawing to an end, which
 makes death
  inevitable?
 
 Or, maybe the course of karma is unfathomable?
 
 Alex

Exactly! Well said. Maybe we don't know jack about
anything at all.
-Peter



 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-27 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 3/27/05 10:11:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Is 
  a lack of cognitive or emotional experience justification for keeping 
  a person on artificial life-support against that person's previously 
  expressed wish to not be kept alive in such a manner?  Is the 
  sanctity of marriage only valid when Tom Delay says so?  Is 
  signing a living will a tremendously good idea?   Have you 
  signed yours?  Alex+ The persons previously expressed 
  wish in this case looks likehearsay evidence with the strong possibility 
  of being BS. N.

Signed affidavits from witnesses claim previous to 1998 
Michael had claimed he did not know what Terri would have wanted in these 
circumstances. Supposedly this wish of Terri's to not be kept alive has only 
been put forth by Michael in the past seven years. There is a lot that is not 
being looked at or ignored by the court and thus thelaw passed to start 
from the beginning and examine the case again. I think that is all people are 
asking. The heart of this case is Michael claims to be doing Terri's will yet he 
has no proof that this was her will, while others claim they have proof it 
isNOT her will.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-27 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 3/27/05 11:31:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
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snip I just heard on the news that they are giving Terri 
  Schiavo morpohine. That is good, so be sure she doesn't 
  suffer.

That must be where that euphoric state comes from when a 
person starves to death.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-27 Thread rudra_joe





Yeah, morphine rocks. 

  - Original Message - 
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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:30 
  AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] 
  Fwd: Guardianship  Theresa Schiavo
  snip I just heard on the news that they are 
  giving Terri Schiavo morpohine. That is good, so be sure she doesn't 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 3/26/05 4:33:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe 
  this whole Schiavo thing is symbolic-omenious for North-Americaat this 
  time..Do we kill her or let her stay with us, hoping for 
  improvement..?

There will probably be some very important and thoughtful 
revision in such laws that allow this to happen. And more people will right a 
living will.


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