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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-14 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Of course, nothing shall ever beat... 

 John Edwards Feeling Pretty 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q=RDlJpNSJSab04=3 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q=RDlJpNSJSab04=3 
 
 John Edwards Feeling Pretty 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q=RDlJpNSJSab04=3 John 
Edwards fixing his hair before an interview. With appropriate music.
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q=RDlJpNSJSab04=3 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-14 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

You may have a point.
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 The emails are such a red herring - nothing there. A witch hunt. They haven't 
turned up *anything* - if they had, it would be front page news. This is just a 
typical tactic to create F-U-D around the opposition.  

 Personally, I think the acid test should be a standard photo op by all 
candidates, both parties, with a choice of either standing upright in a tank 
turret with helmet on, or strutting about a carrier deck in a flight-suit with 
enhanced bulges. It would winnow the field in a hurry. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I don't know why she bothers. She's under criminal investigation by the FBI. 
Now the FBI is investigating State Department E-mails and their connection to 
the Clinton Foundation.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:24 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now
 
 
   The two extreme polar opposites as possibly electable candidates is a pretty 
interesting scenario for this country, reflecting as you state, the increasing 
social and economic stress of the need for change on so many levels.  Hillary 
is in the middle of this maelstrom and trying to establish herself as the 
candidate of the "middle way."   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 I am anything but apathetic, however Trump is very much a creation of our 
design. Big Biz feels increasingly emboldened by the steady stream of successes 
they have accomplished; off-shoring jobs, wage stagnation, lowest taxes ever 
especially for the investment bankers, no minimum wage increases, off-shore 
bank accounts for tax evasion, trillion dollar bailouts with no jail time, and 
the list continues. This creation of a wealthy class essentially above the law, 
with its consequent strain on our economy, has created a tremendous amount of 
social stress as well. So the conditions are perfect for someone like Trump to 
show up, throw out a lot of simplistic ideas and slogans, and draw big crowds 
and media attention. He is getting a lot of power from people's 
dissatisfaction, and continues to tell them what they want to hear. He is a 
mirror of our social discontent.
 

 Fortunately, in addition to the fantasy offered by Trump, Bernie Sanders is 
providing the *rational response* to these very skewed economic conditions, by 
setting out some fairly simple fixes centered around all of us paying our fair 
share of taxes. Getting everyone to pay their fair share, especially those who 
employ armies of tax consultants for tax avoidance, is not a fix in and of 
itself, but it will ensure we all have equal skin in the game. Governor Kasich, 
one of the Republican candidates, said that during the GW Bush administration, 
by allowing the rich to avoid taxes and starting two wars, we blew a FIVE 
TRILLION dollar surplus. That would kind of come in handy now...
 

 So we created Trump, his power and his ugly ideas, but the same conditions 
have also created an opening for Bernie Sanders, and getting this country off 
this dysfunctional path of easy fixes up front, with devastating consequences 
later.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 No, he is NOT!  The media fascination with such a disordered individual should 
not dictate apathy and resignation to the "The Lord of the Flies" storyline.  
He won't and can't win.  And, yes, God help us.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 He was inevitable. He is our All American hero, and God help us.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 I don't understand why everyone is so confounded by Trump. I sat in a lot of 
corporate meetings and men (and  women) like him are everywhere. I guess it is 
surprising to a lot of people how ugly corporate business has become, with a 
winner take all/loser gets nothing attitude, and a flood of overly macho, war 
and sports oriented rhetoric. Guys like Trump are a dime a dozen. People make 
him out to be some sort of anomaly, perhaps not wanting to believe the country 
is full of such individuals. Ooops.
 

 It is not that I haven't seen this in the business world, especially as a 
woman. But Trump goes beyond the ugly aspect of the alpha male, 
testosterone-fueled competitiveness for more than their market share and 
everyone else be damned phenomenon that happens all the time. He is running for 
office, and not just any office. He is thriving on and promoting hatred, not 
simply looking for some leg up on his business/market competitors. This is much 
bigger, this is much more odious in the sense that it goes beyond money or what 
land

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-14 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The emails are such a red herring - nothing there. A witch hunt. They haven't 
turned up *anything* - if they had, it would be front page news. This is just a 
typical tactic to create F-U-D around the opposition.  

 Personally, I think the acid test should be a standard photo op by all 
candidates, both parties, with a choice of either standing upright in a tank 
turret with helmet on, or strutting about a carrier deck in a flight-suit with 
enhanced bulges. It would winnow the field in a hurry. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I don't know why she bothers. She's under criminal investigation by the FBI. 
Now the FBI is investigating State Department E-mails and their connection to 
the Clinton Foundation.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:24 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now
 
 
   The two extreme polar opposites as possibly electable candidates is a pretty 
interesting scenario for this country, reflecting as you state, the increasing 
social and economic stress of the need for change on so many levels.  Hillary 
is in the middle of this maelstrom and trying to establish herself as the 
candidate of the "middle way."   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 I am anything but apathetic, however Trump is very much a creation of our 
design. Big Biz feels increasingly emboldened by the steady stream of successes 
they have accomplished; off-shoring jobs, wage stagnation, lowest taxes ever 
especially for the investment bankers, no minimum wage increases, off-shore 
bank accounts for tax evasion, trillion dollar bailouts with no jail time, and 
the list continues. This creation of a wealthy class essentially above the law, 
with its consequent strain on our economy, has created a tremendous amount of 
social stress as well. So the conditions are perfect for someone like Trump to 
show up, throw out a lot of simplistic ideas and slogans, and draw big crowds 
and media attention. He is getting a lot of power from people's 
dissatisfaction, and continues to tell them what they want to hear. He is a 
mirror of our social discontent.
 

 Fortunately, in addition to the fantasy offered by Trump, Bernie Sanders is 
providing the *rational response* to these very skewed economic conditions, by 
setting out some fairly simple fixes centered around all of us paying our fair 
share of taxes. Getting everyone to pay their fair share, especially those who 
employ armies of tax consultants for tax avoidance, is not a fix in and of 
itself, but it will ensure we all have equal skin in the game. Governor Kasich, 
one of the Republican candidates, said that during the GW Bush administration, 
by allowing the rich to avoid taxes and starting two wars, we blew a FIVE 
TRILLION dollar surplus. That would kind of come in handy now...
 

 So we created Trump, his power and his ugly ideas, but the same conditions 
have also created an opening for Bernie Sanders, and getting this country off 
this dysfunctional path of easy fixes up front, with devastating consequences 
later.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 No, he is NOT!  The media fascination with such a disordered individual should 
not dictate apathy and resignation to the "The Lord of the Flies" storyline.  
He won't and can't win.  And, yes, God help us.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 He was inevitable. He is our All American hero, and God help us.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 I don't understand why everyone is so confounded by Trump. I sat in a lot of 
corporate meetings and men (and  women) like him are everywhere. I guess it is 
surprising to a lot of people how ugly corporate business has become, with a 
winner take all/loser gets nothing attitude, and a flood of overly macho, war 
and sports oriented rhetoric. Guys like Trump are a dime a dozen. People make 
him out to be some sort of anomaly, perhaps not wanting to believe the country 
is full of such individuals. Ooops.
 

 It is not that I haven't seen this in the business world, especially as a 
woman. But Trump goes beyond the ugly aspect of the alpha male, 
testosterone-fueled competitiveness for more than their market share and 
everyone else be damned phenomenon that happens all the time. He is running for 
office, and not just any office. He is thriving on and promoting hatred, not 
simply looking for some leg up on his business/market competitors. This is much 
bigger, this is much more odious in the sense that it goes beyond money or what 
land gets developed for another Target store. Trump is insatiable. He has 
already proven himself in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-14 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ollie, I agree that it's a witch hunt, but let's keep the facts straight: What 
they've found *has* been very much front-page news, many times so far. The 
media love witch hunts, and they've never been big Hillary fans. 

 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The emails are such a red herring - nothing there. A witch hunt. They haven't 
turned up *anything* - if they had, it would be front page news. This is just a 
typical tactic to create F-U-D around the opposition.  

 Personally, I think the acid test should be a standard photo op by all 
candidates, both parties, with a choice of either standing upright in a tank 
turret with helmet on, or strutting about a carrier deck in a flight-suit with 
enhanced bulges. It would winnow the field in a hurry. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I don't know why she bothers. She's under criminal investigation by the FBI. 
Now the FBI is investigating State Department E-mails and their connection to 
the Clinton Foundation.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-13 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Obama created Trump. Trump would be no where if people weren't dispirit for
jobs and government to be off of their backs. For every action, there is a
corresponding and equal reaction.Trump is the natural reaction to Obama's
policies. You noticed Trump was going nowhere until the illegal immigration
issue came up. Trump got traction when he stood up to the Obama policies that
have basically opened the doors for illegal migrants. Trump countered with a
big beautiful Trump wall that the Mexicans are going to pay for.
Call him mean spirited, evil, a devil all you want. Just remember, Obama
created him.

From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

I don't understand why everyone is so confounded by Trump. I sat in a lot of
corporate meetings and men (and women) like him are everywhere. I guess it is
surprising to a lot of people how ugly corporate business has become, with a
winner take all/loser gets nothing attitude, and a flood of overly macho, war
and sports oriented rhetoric. Guys like Trump are a dime a dozen. People make
him out to be some sort of anomaly, perhaps not wanting to believe the country
is full of such individuals. Ooops.
It is not that I haven't seen this in the business world, especially as a
woman. But Trump goes beyond the ugly aspect of the alpha male,
testosterone-fueled competitiveness for more than their market share and
everyone else be damned phenomenon that happens all the time. He is running for
office, and not just any office. He is thriving on and promoting hatred, not
simply looking for some leg up on his business/market competitors. This is much
bigger, this is much more odious in the sense that it goes beyond money or what
land gets developed for another Target store. Trump is insatiable. He has
already proven himself in the business world, for better or for worse, and now
he is going after the Presidency? What for? Well, evidently because he is power
mad. He is linked into some power buzz and he is beyond rehabilitation. He can
not help or stop himself no matter what the cost. I can only hope that where
there is darkness there will be a responding light. Where there is depravity
then a opportunity for goodness and love will open up. I am not so much
confounded by Trump but by how many support him. There are plenty of horrific
humans on the planet but I never dreamed so many people would revel in one as
dreadful as him.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Yep, this nails it pretty well. He's in it for the *win* and increasingly
seems to believe his own narrative. He's completely insane.
Yes he is and those who find him to be their 'answer' are blind and committed
to repeating history within 70 years of WWII with all its atrocities and
brutalities brought on by Hitler and his henchmen. I don't get it, not at all.
What a stink, what hate lies within the crevices of American society and Trump
is someone so full of the same that he has appealed to those who want an excuse
to let all of this pus, this rottenness come to the surface. But, this is no
purification process, this is becoming a mob scene where the worst of what
makes up human's baser characteristics is taking over. I am becoming more
horrified by the day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

http://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-the-most-dangerous-face-in-the-republican-crowd/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-13 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Mike, you are sounding more and more disconnected from reality. Just FYI. :)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Call him mean spirited, evil, a devil all you want. Just remember, Obama
created him.

From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

It is not that I haven't seen this in the business world, especially as a
woman. But Trump goes beyond the ugly aspect of the alpha male,
testosterone-fueled competitiveness for more than their market share and
everyone else be damned phenomenon that happens all the time. He is running for
office, and not just any office. He is thriving on and promoting hatred, not
simply looking for some leg up on his business/market competitors. This is much
bigger, this is much more odious in the sense that it goes beyond money or what
land gets developed for another Target store. Trump is insatiable. He has
already proven himself in the business world, for better or for worse, and now
he is going after the Presidency? What for? Well, evidently because he is power
mad. He is linked into some power buzz and he is beyond rehabilitation. He can
not help or stop himself no matter what the cost. I can only hope that where
there is darkness there will be a responding light. Where there is depravity
then a opportunity for goodness and love will open up. I am not so much
confounded by Trump but by how many support him. There are plenty of horrific
humans on the planet but I never dreamed so many people would revel in one as
dreadful as him.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Yep, this nails it pretty well. He's in it for the *win* and increasingly
seems to believe his own narrative. He's completely insane.

Yes he is and those who find him to be their 'answer' are blind and committed
to repeating history within 70 years of WWII with all its atrocities and
brutalities brought on by Hitler and his henchmen. I don't get it, not at all.
What a stink, what hate lies within the crevices of American society and Trump
is someone so full of the same that he has appealed to those who want an excuse
to let all of this pus, this rottenness come to the surface. But, this is no
purification process, this is becoming a mob scene where the worst of what
makes up human's baser characteristics is taking over. I am becoming more
horrified by the day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

http://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-the-most-dangerous-face-in-the-republican-crowd/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-13 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Emily... that's called *denial*.

From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

Mike, you are sounding more and more disconnected from reality. Just FYI.
:)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

http://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-the-most-dangerous-face-in-the-republican-crowd/

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 02/13/2016 07:33 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

I don't understand why everyone is so confounded by Trump. I sat in a
lot of corporate meetings and men (and women) like him are everywhere.

We called them "frat rats" back in the day. They're are the pedigreed
who have the connections and are groomed to run companies. They have
the mindset of a salesman. I had a CEO once ask me before a company
meeting "is Compuserve the Internet"? Mind you this was the mid 1990s
and he had been in software for almost 10 years and didn't know the
difference.

What I observed is how "brute force" these people operate and forge
ahead blindly. Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. Many
bought into the business school rage of "acquisitions" which cost many
people their jobs because when you acquire a company you lay off
divisions that duplicate what you already have.

Good example of blindly forging ahead and blundering would be telecom
execs like Randall Stephenson probably talking up the profits that ATT
would make off their IPTV when trends changed and people started cable
cutting. First reaction was to punish cutters by throttling them which
is technically illegal because you've paid for a service that is
supposed to provide you with a certain bitrate. So then ATT buys
DirecTV and is try to wean IPTV customers off so they can use those IPTV
pipes for cord cutters. :-D

I guess it is surprising to a lot of people how ugly corporate
business has become, with a winner take all/loser gets nothing
attitude, and a flood of overly macho, war and sports oriented
rhetoric. Guys like Trump are a dime a dozen. People make him out to
be some sort of anomaly, perhaps not wanting to believe the country is
full of such individuals. Ooops.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Yep, this nails it pretty well. He's in it for the *win* and
increasingly seems to believe his own narrative. He's completely insane.

Yes he is and those who find him to be their 'answer' are blind and
committed to repeating history within 70 years of WWII with all its
atrocities and brutalities brought on by Hitler and his henchmen. I
don't get it, not at all. What a stink, what hate lies within the
crevices of American society and Trump is someone so full of the same
that he has appealed to those who want an excuse to let all of this
pus, this rottenness come to the surface. But, this is no purification
process, this is becoming a mob scene where the worst of what makes up
human's baser characteristics is taking over. I am becoming more
horrified by the day.

---In FairfieldLi! f...@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

http://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-the-most-dangerous-face-in-the-republican-crowd/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Going on Right Now

2016-02-13 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yes, and in the very same way, GW Bush, by nearly destroying the economy and
wrecking our global relationships, created Barack Obama, in addition to
destroying any hopes his sad sack brother may have for the current nomination.
Funny how that works...