Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic pupils

2009-03-17 Thread Kirk
What sort of clarity do you wish for?

I recall my father's death perfectly. I could go into details but I am not 
sure what value it would have for you. It did fuck up my entire life and it 
took me at least thirty more years to process and see the results. Though 
the results on my motivation were instantaneous. I had been a perfect 'A' 
student, of course we're talking about up to third grade. At that time I 
took a nosedive and my grades went down and I became more 'punky.'

The 'narcissistic' sense of 'entitlement' continued through my actions and 
was a sort of carrier of my angst. It wasn't until witnessing destruction of 
my city that my sense of change became overwhelming and rather 
incapacitating for me. I no longer feel a sense of 'entitlement' whatsoever, 
not after watching my best friends entire way of life permanently displaced. 
I was watching him cry yesterday.

He's epileptic and had seizures recently and was banned from work until he 
get's a doctor's slip. Anyway, that was a couple weeks ago, or more like a 
month, and he can't get a doctor's slip, and now he is going to be evicted. 
So now I am watching my best friend, and one of the few people I love move 
away.

Sorry I'm rambling. Loss. I was being 'narcissistic' about my loss. Maybe 
not. Anyway, fuck me. I'm tired. Happy St Patrick's Day.


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From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic 
pupils


 Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
I was quite spoiled as a small child - with attention - breast fed, large 
family, I also had three older sisters , grandmother living across the 
street. I was very much feeling - entitled - until I watched my father 
die when I was eight.  Everything changed.

 Would you care to elaborate?  I am in the process of examining my 
 childhood, which I remember as only very ideal, to try to find some clues 
 to some adult issues I am presently dealing with.

 As well, my wife's dad died when she was just a baby, and that, naturally 
 has played a significant role in her life.

 But I can recall no such event, yet I have issues that I am trying to get 
 some clarification on.

 Thanks




 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic pupils

2009-03-17 Thread Kirk
My addictive tendencies were there from youth. I started smoking pot at age 
twelve. I stopped though at fifteen until I finished my MIU experience at 21. 
Then was re-introduced in Law School, of all places. Then I went to food 
service which is a cross section of the criminal world. Most of my friends are 
at least huge partiers if not outright druggies. My task has been to 
reintegrate into society at large in a non-criminal and wholesome way. 
Eschewing drugs. I am attempting, not very successfully, to give up all 
substances. 

If you have addictive issues feel free to PM me as I probably know all about 
any of them first hand. My best friends GF just went to rehab and moved due to 
multiple hard drug addictions. She was also one of my best friends. It was 
saddening to watch her escape the chain of addiction by having to escape. This 
is something that TM has helped me with, and is still available as a tool for 
me, is in personal rehab, when I have sunk to the bottom and have to go through 
it. I have never sought to finally escape anything. I don't believe in it.

I have gone through the bottom I feel more often than most. It's a funny thing 
but spirituality doesn't cease under pressure. It is refined. If one remains 
open to their failures and can accept them as positives. I have had 45 jobs in 
my adult life. But I was introduced to all of New Orleans Creole Cuisine first 
hand and cooked it all in the best restaurants until I was myself adopted into 
it. 

Then Katrina, and you can be sure only the few hard line Creole restaurants 
still exist.  Lately, I am thinking death is the real reality and we here are 
all living in the world of shadows. Because everything and everyone has gone 
on I can say that if it weren't for my wife I don't think I would have made 
it this far. She showed me goodness in a hard edged world. Been lavish with her 
goodness. 

If I was given the choice of immortality I would turn it flat down. 

Now:

Addictions are all self based self medication. Due to some feeling of imbalance 
in neurophysiology. One shouldn't feel embarrased or distracted, but one should 
try to seek help in the most societally accepted way as available. IE., work 
with a shrink for a little while.  

In the words of a Buddhist teacher I have - he says - problem with drugs is 
that you need more and more. One should understand that this is one of the 
major issues as toxicity to oneself and environment grow exponentially. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: lurkernomore20002000 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:53 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic pupils



  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
  
   What sort of clarity do you wish for?

  The clarity deals with my own situation, which I am working on.  You said 
everyting was going well for you until you watched your Dad die at age 8.  Then 
it sounds like you started acting out,  as they say.  So, I guess that, as in 
 many cases,  you had difficulty processing this event, and therefore dealt 
with it in a different way.  That is all.  I believe this is a common scenario. 
 What I am curious about, is that if, say, one has a childhood which seems 
nearly perfect, or at least not marred by any abuse, or major event like you  
experienced, and one starts to come up on some addictive tendencies as an 
adult, where might the problem lay.


   
   I recall my father's death perfectly. I could go into details but I am not 
   sure what value it would have for you. It did fuck up my entire life and it 
   took me at least thirty more years to process and see the results. Though 
   the results on my motivation were instantaneous. I had been a perfect 'A' 
   student, of course we're talking about up to third grade. At that time I 
   took a nosedive and my grades went down and I became more 'punky.'
   
   The 'narcissistic' sense of 'entitlement' continued through my actions and 
   was a sort of carrier of my angst. It wasn't until witnessing destruction 
of 
   my city that my sense of change became overwhelming and rather 
   incapacitating for me. I no longer feel a sense of 'entitlement' 
whatsoever, 
   not after watching my best friends entire way of life permanently 
displaced. 
   I was watching him cry yesterday.
   
   He's epileptic and had seizures recently and was banned from work until he 
   get's a doctor's slip. Anyway, that was a couple weeks ago, or more like a 
   month, and he can't get a doctor's slip, and now he is going to be evicted. 
   So now I am watching my best friend, and one of the few people I love move 
   away.
   
   Sorry I'm rambling. Loss. I was being 'narcissistic' about my loss. Maybe 
   not. Anyway, fuck me. I'm tired. Happy St Patrick's Day.
   
   
   - Original Message - 
   From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@...
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic pupils

2009-03-17 Thread Kirk
Sure also some things like hypo/hyper thyroid and other similar hormonal or 
endocrinal imbalances may lead to addictive and self medicating behaviour. 
In other words sometimes people get 'nerves' and 'tightness' anorexia' or 
something like it, and so on. Such things might drive a person to drink or 
smoke pot, or worse. So I should add that medical reasons could also 
underlie the need to seek --- medicine.


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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic 
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 Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
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 Now:
 Addictions are all self based self medication. Due to some feeling of 
 imbalance in neurophysiology. One shouldn't feel embarrased or 
  distracted, but one should try to seek help in the most societally 
  accepted way as available. IE., work with a shrink for a little while.

 Thanks much for sharing this part of your life.  This last paragraph 
 really encapsulizes the situation-  the problem, a likely cause, and a 
 course of action.  Privately I would share what steps I am taking. Thus 
 far it has been a positive experience because I had issues I wasn't 
 dealing with, and now they are being addressed.



 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic pupils

2009-03-17 Thread Kirk
You probably know me, you at least know my email. If you feel like emailing 
me I'm around.

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From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic 
pupils


 Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote:
 snip
 Now:
 Addictions are all self based self medication. Due to some feeling of 
 imbalance in neurophysiology. One shouldn't feel embarrased or 
  distracted, but one should try to seek help in the most societally 
  accepted way as available. IE., work with a shrink for a little while.

 Thanks much for sharing this part of your life.  This last paragraph 
 really encapsulizes the situation-  the problem, a likely cause, and a 
 course of action.  Privately I would share what steps I am taking. Thus 
 far it has been a positive experience because I had issues I wasn't 
 dealing with, and now they are being addressed.



 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BBC News Online: Warning over narcissistic pupils

2009-03-15 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote:
 I have no idea what goes on at the Maharishi School but I can tell you
 that I never, ever want to be near a TM brat.  The kid screams, cries,
 screams and I never hear even hush.

 I don't know what age you are talking about here.  But in my experience this 
 is not a TM thing.  This is how this generation is raising their kids all 
 over America, kid centric lives.  We'll have to see how it turns out.


I just remembered.  Two of the guys on my first IA taught at the
Maharishi School part time giving (free) seminars.  Neither one of
them could stop talking about the unruly pupils.  The boys were
sitting in the teacher's chair, throwing things about the room.  It
was all the could do to regain control of the classes.  IRRC this was
2-4 grade.  Both guys were from Ireland.