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On Mar 24, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Kirk wrote: Sal, not meaning to be smug but our friend probably meant, well, let's see what the Author's Friend has to say since she knows everything. Oh shit, she spent all her posts already. We'll have to wait another week to get an 'expert' 'opinion'. So nevermind. Well, it *is* an interesting question in light of what eternal brought up... Sal
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On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:06 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: I went to the doctor last week and he prescribed Xanax for me. But I refuse to even fill the prescription. I've seen members of my own family get on this sorts of drugs and it fucks them up for a lifetime. Wishing you the best, shemp, but don't throw all medication out the window. Is Xanax an anti-depressant? Several help, and continue to, millions, without serious side-effects. Don't know about X but some research might be in order about the others. And I also understand, after years of being indoctrinated with the TMO's medication scares myself. A friend's mother recommended something called Valerian Root. I picked up a bottle of Valerian Root Extract pills (60 pills per bottle, 50 mg each) for the ridiculously low price of $5.00 at Sprout's and I must say it is a Godsend. I've taken it about 4 days now -- a few hours before going to sleep -- and it has really helped me sleep. As it is I am still only able to sleep about 4 hours a night. But at least I lie in bed -- albeit awake -- and I'm sure I'm getting at least some rest that way, for the rest of the time. But my despondency is big. And I have no one to blame but myself for the horrible mess I'm in. I'm actually considering calling a crisis line (no, not for suicide...I'm not having those thoughts), something I've never before done. But it does help talking about it here. Sal
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Well Lurk, you know you have my sympathy. I'm, otr we are not alone. Many people I know have had their lives washed away. I didn't realize it would effect me like it did since it wasn't my home town. But that's not the case cause it is my home town now, and so many people are feeling low here. Each of my friends in turn has graduated to hard drugs - read heroin or crack - I drove one to rehab a week ago where she was enrolled. I can tell you stories. Of course my giving advice is the blind leading the blind. If you're 54 you may be in mid-life crisis. Or, maybe some physical problem. I am having to soon check whether I am hypothyroid since I have eating issues. Anyway, the weepy thing I have alway had. I am pretty emotional from the outset. - Original Message - From: lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency Shempster, glad I may be one of the first to respond here. First, there are probably a lot of us who are never more than a hairs breath away from crying. Second, just don't give up, even when you feel like it. Put one step ahead of the other, and continue to go forward. Sounds trite, I know, but if you keep plugging away, things fall into place one way or another. Other than that, you can't push depression out the door. You have to process it in some manner, and then sometimes it may just lift. Kind of like when you have a persistent headache, and suddenly it goes away, and your not even aware that it has gone away until after the fact. Wishing you the best. lurk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: I can really identify with Kirk today. I'm in a transition in my life in which I am feeling really, really low. I've lost almost all confidence in myself. And I cry a lot (yeah, that's pretty sappy considering that I'm a 54 year old male). Any kind words or advise (yes, I'm asking!) directed my way will be very welcome. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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I can tell you all about alprazolam and diazapam. They are depressant benzodiazapines, used for muscle relaxation and to promote sleep. Xanax has a short half life of only two hours so it also can put you to sleep but then you wake up in just a few hours. It's not very good for sleep. It's much better for tension headache and TMJ which is why I have it. Valium has a half life of 18 hours, so valium, in my doctor's words, has an hour come down which matches the symptoms of depression. Thus valium, he says, is addicting. Funny thing is he never asked me if I felt addicted to the 270 Lortabs he gave me every 45 days. But those I wanted. Because they are better antidepressants than anything on the market. Of course the acetominophen is bad for the liver, especially if one drinks. So that's another issue. Here's the thing. Alprazolam can prevent clarity of mind. It doesn't last long though. That's why doctors give it out over valium. If you took one at night you really shouldn't notice any significant hangover. No. I used to get a depressive hangover when I would take ten mgs a day to keep my nerves from rattling during 16 hour shifts of people yelling at me. On xanax and valium you will incur memory loss, maybe even from just a little. But especially if you drink with them. I remember drinking a bottle of wine on top of valium and then I called everyone I knew and cut them off and erased all my phone numbers and it took me a few months to get the numbers and my friends back. I don't rememebr doing it. I just knew when I looked at my phone and I erased all the numbers that something bad had happened. Xanax are bad, but if you're responsible, which I am not, then you can use them as a doctor prescribes. But if you're like me then maybe they aren't such a good idea. They were prescribed for depression to help someone I know of who lost a loved one during Katrina. It took her three years and rehab to get clean. One thing some newbies to TM forget is that if you have lived with TM your whole, or pretty much your whole life, then it ceases having any specific quality. Thus it is of little use when confronting the usual day to day problems. I am not sure if I admire the idealists or think they're misguided dunces. I have the difficult problem of being around many heroin and crack addicts and stoners. I am driving one to her appt today. With a counselor. If one hasn't figured it out yet, most everybody is fucked in some way. Especially the gurus who look all perfect. The more perfect you have to look the more fucked you really are. Nobody has figured life out yet. And they never will. Religions are not the life of the intellect but the death of it. I do not recommend religion to anyone. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:06 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: I went to the doctor last week and he prescribed Xanax for me. But I refuse to even fill the prescription. I've seen members of my own family get on this sorts of drugs and it fucks them up for a lifetime. Wishing you the best, shemp, but don't throw all medication out the window. Is Xanax an anti-depressant? Several help, and continue to, millions, without serious side-effects. Don't know about X but some research might be in order about the others. And I also understand, after years of being indoctrinated with the TMO's medication scares myself. A friend's mother recommended something called Valerian Root. I picked up a bottle of Valerian Root Extract pills (60 pills per bottle, 50 mg each) for the ridiculously low price of $5.00 at Sprout's and I must say it is a Godsend. I've taken it about 4 days now -- a few hours before going to sleep -- and it has really helped me sleep. As it is I am still only able to sleep about 4 hours a night. But at least I lie in bed -- albeit awake -- and I'm sure I'm getting at least some rest that way, for the rest of the time. But my despondency is big. And I have no one to blame but myself for the horrible mess I'm in. I'm actually considering calling a crisis line (no, not for suicide...I'm not having those thoughts), something I've never before done. But it does help talking about it here. Sal
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On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Kirk wrote: I can tell you all about alprazolam and diazapam. They are depressant benzodiazapines, used for muscle relaxation and to promote sleep. Xanax has a short half life of only two hours so it also can put you to sleep but then you wake up in just a few hours. It's not very good for sleep. It's much better for tension headache and TMJ which is why I have it. Valium has a half life of 18 hours, so valium, in my doctor's words, has an hour come down which matches the symptoms of depression. Thus valium, he says, is addicting. Funny thing is he never asked me if I felt addicted to the 270 Lortabs he gave me every 45 days. But those I wanted. Because they are better antidepressants than anything on the market. Of course the acetominophen is bad for the liver, especially if one drinks. So that's another issue. People should try GABA before they try the Benzos--or even after they've tried them. If you're a meditator and ever got the 'wave of relaxation' kinda bliss from a good meditation session, GABA is like that. In fact GABA receptors are what are activated in Theta and Gamma wave samadhis. It's believed to not cross the BBB, but it somehow must be getting around it, as it does work. Cheap too. The important thing is, you have take it on an empty stomach. L- Theanine, the amino acid in Green Tea is the same way and also quite good. Shemp, this is something inexpensive you could check out. It's helpful to have some clear, clean clarity and freedom from emotional patterns to be able to just see where we are and move forward without everything weighing on us.
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I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled in a wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy. Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them. Edg Ever read George C. Chesbro?
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shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Shempster, glad I may be one of the first to respond here. First, there are probably a lot of us who are never more than a hairs breath away from crying. Second, just don't give up, even when you feel like it. Put one step ahead of the other, and continue to go forward. Sounds trite, I know, but if you keep plugging away, things fall into place one way or another. Other than that, you can't push depression out the door. You have to process it in some manner, and then sometimes it may just lift. Kind of like when you have a persistent headache, and suddenly it goes away, and your not even aware that it has gone away until after the fact. Wishing you the best. lurk I went to the doctor last week and he prescribed Xanax for me. But I refuse to even fill the prescription. I've seen members of my own family get on this sorts of drugs and it fucks them up for a lifetime. A friend's mother recommended something called Valerian Root. I picked up a bottle of Valerian Root Extract pills (60 pills per bottle, 50 mg each) for the ridiculously low price of $5.00 at Sprout's and I must say it is a Godsend. I've taken it about 4 days now -- a few hours before going to sleep -- and it has really helped me sleep. As it is I am still only able to sleep about 4 hours a night. But at least I lie in bed -- albeit awake -- and I'm sure I'm getting at least some rest that way, for the rest of the time. But my despondency is big. And I have no one to blame but myself for the horrible mess I'm in. I'm actually considering calling a crisis line (no, not for suicide...I'm not having those thoughts), something I've never before done. But it does help talking about it here. One more thing I forgot to mention, it IS spring the Kapha season. And believe it or not you may need to try some kapha reducing herbs which are stimulating to improve your sleep. Or eat more spicy foods. A rise in kapha can produce depression. My sister went through a clinical depression about 15 years ago. One day I went over to go with her and a visiting relative to dinner. She was in a funk when I arrived. Having introduced ayurveda to her, I went downstairs, grabbed a bag of kapha tea and made it for her. She came out of the funk and was her old self for the dinner. I sometimes have problems sleeping straight through until morning. Having some kapha tea in the evening allows me to sleep straight through. It's worth a try and pretty harmless. Kapha tea can be made from 1 part ginger, 1 part cinnamon and a dash of clove. You can throw in some black pepper too especially if circulation isn't that good.
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled in a wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy. Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them. Ever read George C. Chesbro? Kirk, as you know it's starting to get warm where we live. Yesterday night I was working at the shelter and I tossed a new shirt to this guy. He pulled his shirt off and swapped it with the new one I'd tossed him. I was blown away to see that this guy had multiple instances of the Star of David and his initials in Hebrew tatted into his torso. I kind of just stopped when I saw that and didn't start up again. Thinking over it, this guy can't have been a good Jew because Jews don't get tats. Return to God the way your were born. When I think it over, I can't remember a single Middle Easterner with tats so I don't recall any with crescents. Just rambling.
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I just wanted to tell a story. So I was at the suupermarket and then I chose a very slow line to check out. I was thinking as I was shopping how invisible I felt as if I simply didn't exist. So anyway, I was checking out. The line was taking forever, but I decided not to be a dick. So as I got to the cashier she asked for my ID for a bottle of wine. So I gave it to her and she started chatting with me. She was a cute black girl and we discussed being Libras and yada yada, also my being 9 days and 25 years older than her. But I didn't feel so invisible after that, so I had my godly luck of the day. A small thing. I am sure. Presented to you from - the Outer Limits. - Original Message - From: Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled in a wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy. Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them. Edg Ever read George C. Chesbro? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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I just wanted to tell a story. So I was at the suupermarket and then I chose a very slow line to check out. I was thinking as I was shopping how invisible I felt as if I simply didn't exist. So anyway, I was checking out. The line was taking forever, but I decided not to be a dick. So as I got to the cashier she asked for my ID for a bottle of wine. So I gave it to her and she started chatting with me. She was a cute black girl and we discussed being Libras and yada yada, also my being 9 days and 25 years older than her. But I didn't feel so invisible after that, so I had my godly luck of the day. A small thing. I am sure. Presented to you from - the Outer Limits. - Original Message - From: Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ cox.net To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled in a wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy. Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them. Edg Ever read George C. Chesbro? - - -- To subscribe, send a message to: FairfieldLife- subscribe@ yahoogroups. com Or go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/FairfieldL ife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, I am the eternal wrote: Kirk, as you know it's starting to get warm where we live. Yesterday night I was working at the shelter and I tossed a new shirt to this guy. He pulled his shirt off and swapped it with the new one I'd tossed him. I was blown away to see that this guy had multiple instances of the Star of David and his initials in Hebrew tatted into his torso. I kind of just stopped when I saw that and didn't start up again. Thinking over it, this guy can't have been a good Jew because Jews don't get tats. Return to God the way your were born. Then how does anyone justify circumcision? When I think it over, I can't remember a single Middle Easterner with tats so I don't recall any with crescents. Sal
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Do we know each other?
Maybe we should.
- Original Message -
From: Arhata Osho
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency
I just wanted to tell a story. So I was at the suupermarket and then
I chose
a very slow line to check out. I was thinking as I was shopping how
invisible I felt as if I simply didn't exist. So anyway, I was
checking out.
The line was taking forever, but I decided not to be a dick. So as I
got to
the cashier she asked for my ID for a bottle of wine. So I gave it to
her
and she started chatting with me. She was a cute black girl and we
discussed being Libras and yada yada, also my being 9 days and 25
years
older than her. But I didn't feel so invisible after that, so I had
my
godly luck of the day. A small thing. I am sure. Presented to you
from - the
Outer Limits.
- Original Message -
From: Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency
I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled
in a
wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He
said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy.
Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them.
Edg
Ever read George C. Chesbro?
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Sal, not meaning to be smug but our friend probably meant, well, let's see what the Author's Friend has to say since she knows everything. Oh shit, she spent all her posts already. We'll have to wait another week to get an 'expert' 'opinion'. So nevermind. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, I am the eternal wrote: Kirk, as you know it's starting to get warm where we live. Yesterday night I was working at the shelter and I tossed a new shirt to this guy. He pulled his shirt off and swapped it with the new one I'd tossed him. I was blown away to see that this guy had multiple instances of the Star of David and his initials in Hebrew tatted into his torso. I kind of just stopped when I saw that and didn't start up again. Thinking over it, this guy can't have been a good Jew because Jews don't get tats. Return to God the way your were born. Then how does anyone justify circumcision? When I think it over, I can't remember a single Middle Easterner with tats so I don't recall any with crescents. Sal
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Return to God the way you were born. I do believe that it's when I am on this topic that I praise God to the heavens. For as long as I can hold on. Otherwise I was born Athiest. Rastafari aren't supposed to get tats either. I did my good deeds for the day. I was nice to the supermarket girl, I gave a war vet two smokes, I gave a sick girl some Prilosec, I fed a depressed friend a line of sickening sweet bullshit that even sounded trite to me, but it got a laugh out of him. And I also ignored the ants I trampled, I drank wine for breakfast, I drove too fast and blasted Ashes Divide out the open windows. I looked with lust upon many many women. Many. I didn't cook dinner for my overworked wife. I asked the doc to up the dose on my Celexa. I'm yawning and stretching again. And I haven't even confessed the bad things I did. Not sure I got your point. Are we therefore more alike than we thought? I appreciate your taking time out to ramble with me. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled in a wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy. Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them. Ever read George C. Chesbro? Kirk, as you know it's starting to get warm where we live. Yesterday night I was working at the shelter and I tossed a new shirt to this guy. He pulled his shirt off and swapped it with the new one I'd tossed him. I was blown away to see that this guy had multiple instances of the Star of David and his initials in Hebrew tatted into his torso. I kind of just stopped when I saw that and didn't start up again. Thinking over it, this guy can't have been a good Jew because Jews don't get tats. Return to God the way your were born. When I think it over, I can't remember a single Middle Easterner with tats so I don't recall any with crescents. Just rambling. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote: On Mar 24, 2009, at 6:11 PM, I am the eternal wrote: Kirk, as you know it's starting to get warm where we live. Yesterday night I was working at the shelter and I tossed a new shirt to this guy. He pulled his shirt off and swapped it with the new one I'd tossed him. I was blown away to see that this guy had multiple instances of the Star of David and his initials in Hebrew tatted into his torso. I kind of just stopped when I saw that and didn't start up again. Thinking over it, this guy can't have been a good Jew because Jews don't get tats. Return to God the way your were born. Then how does anyone justify circumcision? I left that part out figuring that no one would be an AHole. Circumcision. Covenant with God, God with Abraham. Gen. 17:10-14 and Lev. 12:3 That's as far as it goes. They don't get buried in Christian cemeteries, however, because they've so far failed to accept the Lord Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@cox.net wrote: I just wanted to tell a story. So I was at the suupermarket and then I chose a very slow line to check out. I was thinking as I was shopping how invisible I felt as if I simply didn't exist. So anyway, I was checking out. The line was taking forever, but I decided not to be a dick. So as I got to the cashier she asked for my ID for a bottle of wine. So I gave it to her and she started chatting with me. She was a cute black girl and we discussed being Libras and yada yada, also my being 9 days and 25 years older than her. But I didn't feel so invisible after that, so I had my godly luck of the day. A small thing. I am sure. Presented to you from - the Outer Limits. Glad to hear that the smell of snatch still gets your attention. You aren't that far gone after all, Kirk.
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Obviously a Mersault as the acidity cuts right through the heavy soy milk and sugary sweetness without fully cleansing the palette so that the Capt Crunch and soymilk flavors can still linger, though without becoming too cloying. My preference in a Mersault is the multi-appelation Le Montrachet, which was made collectively by Drouhin, Latour, et al. I am not up to date on vintages. So many wines so little time. There are two (main) theories on pairing wines with food; like with like and opposite with opposite. So some people drink maybe something really sweet with dessert, such as the obvious Sauterne, whereas something heavy and red like a Zinfandel can go just as well with something like a creme brulee. However the complexity of Captain Crunch I believe calls for something similar but not too alike. Maybe something even less complex than a French wine, something maybe Germain such as an Auslese or Berenauslese. Obviously a Trokenberenauslese is a bit too over the top altogether in sweetness in which case the Capt. Crunch would lose its finesse and probably become bitter by comparison. So you can sense that it's really a matter of taste. - Original Message - From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: I drank wine for breakfast, I always forget the right wine pairing with Capt. Crunch, what is it again? Return to God the way you were born. I do believe that it's when I am on this topic that I praise God to the heavens. For as long as I can hold on. Otherwise I was born Athiest. Rastafari aren't supposed to get tats either. I did my good deeds for the day. I was nice to the supermarket girl, I gave a war vet two smokes, I gave a sick girl some Prilosec, I fed a depressed friend a line of sickening sweet bullshit that even sounded trite to me, but it got a laugh out of him. And I also ignored the ants I trampled, I drank wine for breakfast, I drove too fast and blasted Ashes Divide out the open windows. I looked with lust upon many many women. Many. I didn't cook dinner for my overworked wife. I asked the doc to up the dose on my Celexa. I'm yawning and stretching again. And I haven't even confessed the bad things I did. Not sure I got your point. Are we therefore more alike than we thought? I appreciate your taking time out to ramble with me. - Original Message - From: I am the eternal l.shad...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More despondency On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: I remember this TV show that had a character who was 1. Crippled in a wheelchair. 2. A dwarf. 3. Jewish 4. Atheist 5. African American He said, If I'm happy, no one has the right to be unhappy. Count yer blessings, bubs, others here can see them. Ever read George C. Chesbro? Kirk, as you know it's starting to get warm where we live. Yesterday night I was working at the shelter and I tossed a new shirt to this guy. He pulled his shirt off and swapped it with the new one I'd tossed him. I was blown away to see that this guy had multiple instances of the Star of David and his initials in Hebrew tatted into his torso. I kind of just stopped when I saw that and didn't start up again. Thinking over it, this guy can't have been a good Jew because Jews don't get tats. Return to God the way your were born. When I think it over, I can't remember a single Middle Easterner with tats so I don't recall any with crescents. Just rambling. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Mar 24, 2009, at 8:30 PM, I am the eternal wrote: Return to God the way your were born. Then how does anyone justify circumcision? I left that part out figuring that no one would be an AHole. Well you obviously figured wrong. And why is asking a question being an asshole? Or is a personal attack all you've got? Circumcision. Covenant with God, God with Abraham. Gen. 17:10-14 and Lev. 12:3 Yeah, most of us know that one. It still doesn't jibe with returning the way you were born. That's as far as it goes. They don't get buried in Christian cemeteries, however, because they've so far failed to accept the Lord Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Sal
