Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible? George W. Bush, of course. -Vaj Limbaugh ahem Actually those would just be *provisional* compassion. -Vaj To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
1. How one who is U.C can not be realistic? Because of personality, a dreamer and unrealistic personality will not become realistic and sensible through consciousness and physiological functioning. They will be very 'normal' but we all know what that means now. Basically nothing. But basically a sense of good humor and health. As said, a demon who is in unity will be a very effective demon. One might say, but isn't someone in unity really deserving of unity through good deeds and so on. I say no, that a person in unity is merely someone who made the connection, and nothing more. Being in unity doesn't make soup out of soap. Moreover, liberation is causeless or it will have a beginning and end. One is already liberated, but merely caught in the sheet and too lazy to struggle to get out of bed. Liberation takes one by force or it doesn't. A big problem in enlightenment is not acting from the POV of the Absolute with it's opulent nature of wisdom and compassion, but again falling into the energetic realm of thought and karma which is the realm of the Devas. the Devas fight wars constantly so to act on behalf of a Deva is to throw away the human condition with it's divinity which transcends all. Too many yajnas make one crazy. Too much association with Devas makes one very dualistic. One needs always to remember the source course and goal as being of the one flavor of the Absolute, and not get caught up. MMY got caught up. It's obvious, as obvious as spoiled agar. Undoing the effects of karmic overreaching is the act of the wise, not rebuilding the entire world. 2. On what basis one who has fragmented reality decide if something is "realistic"? On the basis of sheer fact of existance as already being unity regardless of anything. You're in unity whether you like it or not, or realize it or not. And upon realization, one still has to put out the garbage on thursday because it will stink by friday. One who is in unity realizes that all are in unity and that as there is one unity so also everyone is important, as important as one's own mother. 3. Where is my darn coffee? Make it and wake up! 4. How can gurus act like total dipshits. Lack of wisdom and integrity, or knowledge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very realiztic. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra Let me get this right: MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary artery disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying and dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others to avoid it. Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related disease? Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. What's wrong with this picture? What's the obvious conclusion here? On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and h
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote: A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin. Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's where notion of permanent Self are ultimately bound. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Rory Goff wrote: This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow, but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall remain here, not fully enlightened, so long as any sentient being anywhere remains unenlightened. Well, many are fully enlightened--however they decide, consciously, to return again and again till samsara is exhausted. In some cases enlightened beings may divide into thousands of incarnations to assist. Universal janitors. It's hard work, but somebody has got to do it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Rory Goff wrote: WHOSE Samsara? Sentient Beings of the dimensions of conditioned existence. In some cases enlightened beings may divide into thousands of incarnations to assist. Universal janitors. There is only one being, only one incarnation, only one janitor. It's hard work, but somebody has got to do it. Nobody does it. Precisely. It's really about integrating the compassionate nature of the Primordial State. Because the Primordial State is compassionate it continually manifests conditional reality for your surfing enjoyment. Enjoy the show. Coming NOW to a theatre near You. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin.Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's where notion of permanent Self are ultimately bound.Moreover, the nature of the Absolute itself is compassion and wisdom. To not have these is to not be awakened. You say, hah! you contradicted yourself! Hahaha, Kirk you suck! You contradicted youself where you said before that even demons could be in unity. But Hahahaha, I say right back, a demon will act from it's level of wisdom and compassion, by killing, enslaving, and expanding your maya, because demons aren't given to great thought, great compassion or great wisdom. Enlightened demons are the worst. Don't get involved with enlightened demons. Jeez, you want a harsh taskmaster? A stupid awakened one still can't write, read, or do math, but they're still awakened. If it wasn't the case then from the start of time people would have had to go first through all of schooling to make sure they were on the level first. But such is obviously not the case. I saw a very awakened slug once eating my San pedro cactus. It was grooving on life. I could see it glow. Awakened but of no great use to me personally. I was very able to cook all sorts of things many times but was pigeonholed into some station or another. Awakening didn't change that. I still had to work say, fry station, or saute, instead of production, or being the chef. Not every awakened person gets the crown, not every awakened person gets acknowlegement, not every awakened person wants the crown or acknoledgement. Yeah, watch your karma. Awakening doesn't change karma, except insofar as it brings wisdom and compassion. So instead of driving 60 in a school zone when in the heady bliss of freedom, and then hitting a school kid, and going to prison where one will be awakened in prison, instead one slows down, because they may hit someone. Foresight, insight, wisdom, compassion, the true path makes use of these and doesn't put it all on autopilot where whatever one does is right. because karmically speaking, it's not! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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WHOSE Suffering? WHO is suffering?:-)---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from thing to thing always wanting more. When I'm hungry I feel weak. When I run out of weed my mind gets really pitta and feels like exploding. Like now. No suffering? Good for you. The suffering I feel is the source of my desire for liberation. And always was. The fact of constant change makes all relative solutions invalid. Sure, I absolutely don't suffer, as when I stepped out of time when my father died. But karmically speaking, I have been caught up in suffering since I entered the womb and every day and moment since then. Except when I was fucked up or in samadhi. But my guess is also that if you were you wouldn't be asking vapid questions. If we understand that we are the Absolute then can we understand that someone must cook and someone must wash dishes. Otherwise, no cooking, no eating, much suffering. Heaven on Earth is right now, as I have always maintained, but being relative heaven must also change and so is not a solution to misery. Nonetheless, heaven must be served, how do you take yours? I would be glad to hook it up if I could. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Nobody does it.:-)--then who writes these notes?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Rory Goff wrote: Near Me? Who am I? Keep asking. You'll get it. AHAM or AHAR. You decide. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Rory Goff wrote: What You? You = Rory In what way are You and I different? Keeping asking the previous question. Rory will get it (or That). Eventually. AHAM or AHAR? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rory Goff wrote: What is Aham or Ahar? Brahman. What is Rory? What is That? Brahman. What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? Different obscurations. I already know the answer to these. But Rory keeps asking. Do you? You who? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from thing to thing always wanting more. Rory:Bingo! Only "I" is suffering; the rest is a mirror. But actually, no "I" don't. That is Self (or non-self if you prefer) believing it is the dream, believing it is self, the ego, some thought/feeling or other; that which changes. When we impose some condition on what IS, we suffer. ---YeahRudraJoe:When I'm hungry I feel weak. Rory:Yes, when the body is hungry it feels weak. So? Yeah, So share people share. RudraJoe:When I run out of weed my mind gets really pitta and feels like exploding. Like now. Rory:Yes, the mind feels like exploding. So? So share people share.RudraJoe:No suffering? Good for you. The suffering I feel is the source of my desire for liberation. Rory:How the hell can you desire what you already ARE? Fool! :-) Yeah, that which is hungry desires food. That which is suffering desires freedom from suffering. Life is desire, no desire is no life. Nirvana. That which feels nothing goes on.RudraJoe:And always was. The fact of constant change makes all relative solutions invalid. Rory:Bingo. So? Why keep on identifying with them then? Obviously attempting to identify with impermanence causes suffering. Nature's way of telling us we are thinking something incorrect, something which IS not. Nature delights in diversity, and impermanence. The only thing nature is telling me is to score.RudraJoe:Sure, I absolutely don't suffer, as when I stepped out of time when my father died. But karmically speaking, I have been caught up in suffering since I entered the womb and every day and moment since then. Rory:Yes, constantly identifying with the movie of one's own projecting. Suffering. RudraJoe:Except when I was fucked up or in samadhi. But my guess is also that if you were you wouldn't be asking vapid questions. Rory:I am here because I have absolutely nothing better to do than to better Understand You, and so to better Understand mySelf. But you're not helping me so much as words don't bring home the bacon. Except sometimes.RudraJoe:If we understand that we are the Absolute then can we understand that someone must cook and someone must wash dishes. Otherwise, no cooking, no eating, much suffering. Rory:Still drawing a distinction between Absolute and Relative. Both just concepts. What IS, is neither Absolute nor Relative -- isn't it? Yeah, some good points.RudraJoe:Heaven on Earth is right now, as I have always maintained, but being relative heaven must also change and so is not a solution to misery. Rory:Can't pin our "oughts" and shoulds" on anything; that way lies madness. Relative is just a concept. Inside and outside, self and other are just concepts. Believing in concepts implies suffering. Believing in concepts implies a mind not in touch with the Ground of Being.RudraJoe:Nonetheless, heaven must be served, how do you take yours? I would be glad to hook it up if I could.Rory:Love you, Kirk! Thanks for trying so hard. I do appreciate it. We already are what we're striving for; we just forget sometimes. I remember, but I have soo much energy that I'm going berserk with it. Thanks for being so vast.Your Buddha-buddy :-) Likewise.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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No? Yes? Any difference between the two? How can we condition the Absolute? Doesn't that make it Relative? Aren't both of these already just concepts, themselves conditioned?No more than a hole to fall into. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote: No obscurations! Only Vaj! All is Vaj! I already know the answer to these. But Rory keeps asking. Only Vaj is asking! Only Vaj is answering! Do you? You who? Yoo-hoo! A festival of owls in an empty barn :-) Yeah. Already knew That. makes mudra of flipping booger from finger To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: on 4/12/05 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]... at [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: There was a stretch in Seelisberg where he ate nothing but ice cream for two weeks.Ahh, yes! The famous Seelisberg Diet Plan! Try it for two weeks and I guarantee you too will be a diabetic Maharishi. Or at least a Maharishi.:-)To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 10:18 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? I already know the answer to these. Do you? There is only Vaj. Don't you guys live in the same town? You ought to get together. Or is that as likely as the Dana/Rory get-together? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 1:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/12/05 10:18 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? I already know the answer to these. Do you? There is only Vaj. Don't you guys live in the same town? You ought to get together. Or is that as likely as the Dana/Rory get-together? Contrary to popular belief, Maine is not the size of Fairfield...at least in the normal sense of spacetime :-) I thought you were both in Portland. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Technically, one beats cream with a beater, or whips it with a whip. Noone makes Ice Cream by stirring it, or it would take forever to make and then people like Maharishi would live longer not pandering to their own death wish being diabetics, and not feel the pressure to make us sell out our friends and families for him, so as to liberate them from the evil clutches of maya. You see. Beating is the key, not stirring. We must beat things for the Maharishis. Stirring just isn't gonna cut it you hear me Rory?I told you you wouldn't make it in the kitchen. But as a customer, well, come back later, the ice cream isn't ready. Ah nevermind, we're shortstaffed. I'll work with you until you can beat it just right;) No I didn't mean it like that, I was just kidding. I mean it. On the other hand we can all just stop and do nothing and let things go to hell. Usually I figured that that's what had happened anyway. And I was just left picking up the pieces. Actually, if we all just did nothing, and let everything take care of itself. That would be nice. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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u churn butter Ice cream in theoryis a frozen creme anglaise which is a cooked egg yolk and milk product. The creme anglaise is beaten until all the crystals line up and then it becomes creamy, unlike beaten cream or eggs, which reach a peak and then collaspe. Ice cream since it is cooked and ready to be eaten as is, as usually in a sauce, can be taken further, to a pudding stage, as in custard, or more fully whacked until it performs like a maharishi demands, fully beaten and enlightened anglaise. It does reach a pinnacle of perfection that even God can't resist. Yes, even God can't resist ice cream. Tell that to the preacherman. While he's checking out the young boys. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever.Well not precisely *stir* -- I mean *churn*.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence!Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo! Bravo!Jim An appreciative audience, hey Rory, things are looking up! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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on 4/12/05 3:22 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: u churn butter *You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google image search on ice cream churn and you will see the kind of machine I used. Funny how the content of these threads morph from topic to topic. Shall we rename this one ice cream? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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And also because it's prolly so true. I guess we owe this one to Maharishi. Here's to you Maharishi! You rocked this world, but not quite as much as MTV. Well it's true. It sucks I know. It's not my fault. No it isn't. Sure Gandarva Ved is nice, yeah, it's nice, I play it sometimes. No it ain't gonna replace rock and roll, you know you can't say that to me Maharishi. Naw, I'll accept anything but not that. But here's to you anyway.;;) Look, I know I'm being an asshole Maharishi, but it's you who didn't want me. Remember? - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence! Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo! Bravo! Jim An appreciative audience, hey Rory, things are looking up!Kirk, for some reason this cracked me up! :-) :-) I guess because it takes One to appreciate One ...:-) Laughing so hard I can hardly type.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Ah so what, Maharishi doesn't need any bad press, he has the MUM press corp. With his name on it! - Original Message - From: shukra69 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons "friend" , itwas cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatrahad a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search.(Dr. Gyanendra Mahapatra)--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M withwomen. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in India doing yagyas for Ralph.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on t
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 3:41 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons friend , Yes it was. I know who he's referring to. But I think what happened is that Mahapatra has discussed this with various people, so it ended up on Trancenet. He then said pretty much the same stuff to this guy with whom he had dinner. it was cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb 14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatra had a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search. (Dr. Gyanendra Mahapatra) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
