[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi said about banks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All spiritual realities are also in a sense fantasies e.g. Jesus taught the immanent coming of the Kingdom of God but of course that didn't happen. But how real is this? If you're, say, about to turn 60 (as many are these days)... This is how the traditional Christian messianic message has been understood. Most Christians are still waiting for the Kingdom to come. But it is possible that the kingdom is really within ourselves, as MMY suggests in his teachings. It's a matter of immersing the self with the bliss of the Absolute. As such, when cosmic consciousness is attained, the person has gained heaven here on earth. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi said about banks To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:34 PM --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ . wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Comments from a wealthy friend of mine: It's interesting reading this below how Maharishi was the one who was more tight with money than anyone I've ever known. I never saw him giving anything to anyone, except maybe Tony Nader where he made that public display of giving his weight in gold, but that was no doubt donated at his request. He was only asking for more money all time even though he controlled probably more than a billion, yet he upbraids others for lack of generosity and compassion. What he writes below displays a lack of understanding for bankers, who are just business people, like any other kind of business. If bankers are to give away their profits, then why not businesses of all types, which certainly is a good idea to give to charity and help others, which he never did on any material level. His fantasy about all the world's probem's being solved in the Age of Enlightenment or Sat yuga, which he spoke of since we were kids and for which he claims credit, along with Guru Dev, continues to be shown to be just that, a fantasy. It's surprising with such a brilliant mind and such wisdom of the Vedas he had these unusual quirks. In June 2007, Maharishi made some comments about banks, along with his poverty removal program... On 19 June, during the Conference on Removal of Poverty broadcast live by satellite and the Internet from the Financial Capital of New York, Maharishi gave a strong message to the banks and financial institutions of the world. This is the telling statement for me: When you are on the path of God-realization, that path will not bring you suffering. And, if the path to God-realization brings suffering, it is not the path of God-realization; it is not a religion. MMY I understand the theory, but looking at meditators, in practice whew! JohnY How many of those meditators you mention are really devoted to God?
[FairfieldLife] Re: State of American Writing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toni Morrison was a good choice, but name me even one American writing today who is in the same class as Orhan Pamuk or Doris Lessing or Harold Pinter or V.S. Naipaul or Gunter Grass. Thomas Pynchon While that is an interesting suggestion, and while I even liked some of his books, you should bear in mind that you are talking about an author for whom the words insular, isolated, self- absorbed, or self-indulgent have appeared in most of the reviews of most of his works. Also, bearing in mind the lifetime achievement nature of the Nobel Prize for Literature, it is good to remember that Pynchon has written a total of only five novels in 45 years, plus one book of short stories and a few essays. Compare and contrast to: Orhan Pamuk: 12 books in 26 years Doris Lessing: 62 books in 58 years Gunter Grass: 29 books in 56 years Harold Pinter: 65+ books in 50+ years V.S. Naipaul: 33 books in 49 years Toni Morrison: 19 books in 38 years Compare and contrast also to the lifetime achievement of other American writers who won the Nobel Prize for Literature: John Steinbeck Ernest Hemingway William Faulkner Pearl Buck Eugene O'Neill Sinclair Lewis I rest my case. But I remain open to being convinced otherwise, if anyone really can come up with an American writer still writing who would be in the same class as the Nobel Prize for Literature winners listed above. I'd love to read such a writer, but alas I know of no one who qualifies. In the field of modern literature, I have to stand on my claim that America is as second-rate or third-rate as it is in most other fields these days. Now if you were talking about movies... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://yogavisionaries.com/monthly.php?update=oct08 Look for the market to stabilize by the third week of October. That is only if a UFO sighting is not happening. How can you fail to love this guy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Jyotish Consultation?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first 10 years on Purusha I paid by saved means. The two last years was payed for by a finnish investmentgroup. Engineering Uretek?? Prolly not... http://www.tm-koulutus.com/kokemuksia.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://yogavisionaries.com/monthly.php?update=oct08 Look for the market to stabilize by the third week of October. That is only if a UFO sighting is not happening. How can you fail to love this guy? I think I managed the first time I looked at his website using the Internet Wayback Machine and realized that he systematically goes back and deletes or actually *changes* his past predictions that didn't work out the way he predicted to make it look as if more of them did. I suspect that he's so gone (we are talking about someone who has convinced himself that not only aliens from the Pleiaides care about Earth politics and Sarah Palin but that they look like big verginas and that they speak through him) that he doesn't consciously realize that he does this. But he does. He systematically lies to make it appear that his predictions were more accurate that they were. So that he can make a living selling those predictions to others. What amazes me is not Lou's P.T. Barnum There is a sucker born every minute mentality, but the mentality of the suckers. If he actually manages TO make a living while doing this, I shudder to think what his customers are like. I am reminded of one of P.T. Barnum's most famous tricks. He needed to empty the tent after one performance so that he could fill it with the next group of suckers, but people were hanging around talking and wouldn't leave. So he picked up a bullhorn and started shouting, This way to see the egress! This way to see the egress! Everyone followed him, to the egress. egress Pronunciation: \#712;#275;-#716;gres\ Function: noun Etymology: Latin egressus, from egredi to go out, from e- + gradi to go more at grade 1 : the action or right of going or coming out 2 : a place or means of going out : exit
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Jyotish Consultation?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The first 10 years on Purusha I paid by saved means. The two last years was payed for by a finnish investmentgroup. Engineering Uretek?? Prolly not... http://www.tm-koulutus.com/kokemuksia.htm Could be, but I'm sorry to say that my knowlede of finnish is 0, so your link wasn't very helpful ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Jyotish Consultation?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Jyotish Consultation? She is a sorry looser out there in the realive world with all the possebilities of earning money, whereas the Purusha fellow will enjoy Heaven on Earth. He is not begging for a small gift but for support of an anscient tradition of renounciates. He begs out of strenght. Ricks friend begs out of weakness. Introspection time Nabby. You just made some very opinionated judgments about someone whom you've never met. All you know about her is that she's looking for a jyotish enthusiast who might be willing to offer a few minutes of his time. Many people do jyotish as a hobby so it's not an unusual request. Jyotish enthusiast ? Didn't she want help from a professional ? There is nothing wrong in asking help from an amateur ofcourse. From time to time people would ask me to photograph something for free, which is an insult. Do you really go through life judging people as harshly and rigidly as you do on FFL? If so, the world must not be a very friendly place as seen through your eyes. I think you and I both could pull up a few MMY quotes about the evolutionary value of not being judgmental. Agreed, I'm continously working on these values within myself, sometimes I can be rather harsh. But to my defence she did come through as someone who wanted professional help for free. But perhaps you did not quote her properly ? In that case: No surprize there ;-)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Jyotish Consultation?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The first 10 years on Purusha I paid by saved means. The two last years was payed for by a finnish investmentgroup. Engineering Uretek?? Prolly not... http://www.tm-koulutus.com/kokemuksia.htm Could be, but I'm sorry to say that my knowlede of finnish is 0, so your link wasn't very helpful ;-) Nabby, do you realize that this response indicates that you neither know nor CARE who paid for two years of your life while you sat on your fat butt meditating? As I said before, the very personification of Maharishi's teachings: It doesn't matter who pays for what I want to do, just as long as it's someone else.
[FairfieldLife] Obama's Economic Justice
Podcast http://tinyurl.com/4t66cw
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:29 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://yogavisionaries.com/monthly.php?update=oct08 Look for the market to stabilize by the third week of October. That is only if a UFO sighting is not happening. How can you fail to love this guy? All this and a big vagina too! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Jyotish Consultation?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The first 10 years on Purusha I paid by saved means. The two last years was payed for by a finnish investmentgroup. Engineering Uretek?? Prolly not... http://www.tm-koulutus.com/kokemuksia.htm Could be, but I'm sorry to say that my knowlede of finnish is 0, so your link wasn't very helpful ;-) Nabby, do you realize that this response indicates that you neither know nor CARE who paid for two years of your life while you sat on your fat butt meditating? Turq, you are a fool. I know very well who paid, but carde does not. Clearer now in your bitumentbrain ?
[FairfieldLife] Obama's Mentor Frank was a Pervert
The book, [Sex Rebel] which closely tracks Mr [Frank]Davis's life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex. One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her. I'm not one to go in for Lolitas. Usually I'd rather not bed a babe under 20. But there are exceptions. I didn't want to disappoint the trusting child. At her still-impressionistic age, a rejection might be traumatic, could even cripple her sexually for life. http://tinyurl.com/6r6nrl
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi said about banks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick jochadw1@ wrote: All spiritual realities are also in a sense fantasies e.g. Jesus taught the immanent coming of the Kingdom of God but of course that didn't happen. But how real is this? If you're, say, about to turn 60 (as many are these days)... This is how the traditional Christian messianic message has been understood. Most Christians are still waiting for the Kingdom to come. But it is possible that the kingdom is really within ourselves, as MMY suggests in his teachings. It's a matter of immersing the self with the bliss of the Absolute. As such, when cosmic consciousness is attained, the person has gained heaven here on earth. And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. ~~Luke 17:20-21 [KJV] But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. ~~Matthew 6:33 [KJV] Having become a devotee of God one can never remain unhappy. This is our experience. ~~ Swami Brahmananda Saraswati [1871-1953]
[FairfieldLife] Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet last March
Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. However, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family. Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show Route 51 asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama's positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son's name on the campaign trail. (h/t D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com ) Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan's name. Jopek went on to say that she wasn't looking to turn it into a big media event and just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself. Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal. But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son's sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign. Even the snow job that the radio host tried to pull off to cover for Barack's refusing the wishes of the family of the KIA soldier who's bracelet he wears doesn't pass the smell test. After all, now that Obama has made it a big point in the debates, I guess the silent observance of Sgt. Jopek is no longer so silent and Obama is back to exploiting the death of a soldier even when he was asked NOT to do so by that soldier's parents. To pile insult onto injury here, the Mother doesn't even want to force the issue of telling Obama to stop exploiting her son because she wants to see him win the election. Obama is not only taking advantage of this brave soldier's death, he is taking advantage of the good wishes of the man's Mother who doesn't want to hurt the campaign. And, why is the media not playing this story? The radio show on which this interview is heard happened all the way back in March. How is it the media missed this? Is it because they are also don't want to hurt Obama's campaign? I can only say that if the parents of the soldier whose bracelet John McCain is wearing had said in public that they want him to stop wearing their son's bracelet the news would have been coast to coast, and wall to wall, not just ignored in Madison, Wisconsin. Obama's use of this soldier that fell in the line of duty is tainted by his ambition and callousness. And the media is letting him get away with it. Email 9/29/08 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://dncreform.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nude Sarah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-talk-naked- sarahsep30,0,4944201.story LINK  The gun adds a nice touch. To avoid any accusations of sexism, he should have painted a similar portrait of Biden.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet last March
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. However, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family. Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show Route 51 asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama's positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son's name on the campaign trail. (h/t D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com ) Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan's name. Jopek went on to say that she wasn't looking to turn it into a big media event and just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself. Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal. But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son's sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign. Even the snow job that the radio host tried to pull off to cover for Barack's refusing the wishes of the family of the KIA soldier who's bracelet he wears doesn't pass the smell test. After all, now that Obama has made it a big point in the debates, I guess the silent observance of Sgt. Jopek is no longer so silent and Obama is back to exploiting the death of a soldier even when he was asked NOT to do so by that soldier's parents. To pile insult onto injury here, the Mother doesn't even want to force the issue of telling Obama to stop exploiting her son because she wants to see him win the election. Obama is not only taking advantage of this brave soldier's death, he is taking advantage of the good wishes of the man's Mother who doesn't want to hurt the campaign. And, why is the media not playing this story? The radio show on which this interview is heard happened all the way back in March. How is it the media missed this? Is it because they are also don't want to hurt Obama's campaign? I can only say that if the parents of the soldier whose bracelet John McCain is wearing had said in public that they want him to stop wearing their son's bracelet the news would have been coast to coast, and wall to wall, not just ignored in Madison, Wisconsin. Obama's use of this soldier that fell in the line of duty is tainted by his ambition and callousness. And the media is letting him get away with it. Email 9/29/08 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://dncreform.com/ The above is another example of the kinds of bullshit and half-truths that assholes like RD [who is too ashamed to show her/his real name] propagate: Soldier's mother 'ecstatic' about Obama's bracelet MILWAUKEE (AP) The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic when Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama mentioned during Friday's debate the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes. I don't understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet, she said. Jopek acknowledged e-mailing the Obama campaign in February asking that the presidential candidate not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she said Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet. I've got a bracelet, too, from Sergeant from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek, given to me in Green Bay, Obama said during the debate. She asked me, 'Can you please make sure another mother is not going through what I'm going through?' No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they're carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they've provided. Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on
[FairfieldLife] Energy Conservation Status Report -- 200, and it's only Wednesday!
As a Public Service Message to those who find the volume of posts on Fairfield Life a bit much to handle, might I recommend the simple solution of just placing a few people on your Do Not Read List? As of 3:00 PM Wednesday, by doing this I managed to click Next immediately on 200 posts. I didn't have to read anything more than the Subject line and who these posts were from, I didn't have to read anything these people wrote, and I wasn't even tempted to click on any links they provided in their ongoing quest to bring other posters here down to their well-established low level of consciousness. Some may say that in doing this I may have possibly missed something of value. Some may say that the moon is made of green cheese.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet last March
That Obama, what a horrible man. I bet he strains during meditation too! --- On Wed, 10/1/08, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet last March To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 8:28 AM Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. However, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family. Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show Route 51 asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama's positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son's name on the campaign trail. (h/t D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com ) Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan's name. Jopek went on to say that she wasn't looking to turn it into a big media event and just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself. Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal. But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son's sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign. Even the snow job that the radio host tried to pull off to cover for Barack's refusing the wishes of the family of the KIA soldier who's bracelet he wears doesn't pass the smell test. After all, now that Obama has made it a big point in the debates, I guess the silent observance of Sgt. Jopek is no longer so silent and Obama is back to exploiting the death of a soldier even when he was asked NOT to do so by that soldier's parents. To pile insult onto injury here, the Mother doesn't even want to force the issue of telling Obama to stop exploiting her son because she wants to see him win the election. Obama is not only taking advantage of this brave soldier's death, he is taking advantage of the good wishes of the man's Mother who doesn't want to hurt the campaign. And, why is the media not playing this story? The radio show on which this interview is heard happened all the way back in March. How is it the media missed this? Is it because they are also don't want to hurt Obama's campaign? I can only say that if the parents of the soldier whose bracelet John McCain is wearing had said in public that they want him to stop wearing their son's bracelet the news would have been coast to coast, and wall to wall, not just ignored in Madison, Wisconsin. Obama's use of this soldier that fell in the line of duty is tainted by his ambition and callousness. And the media is letting him get away with it. Email 9/29/08 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website http://dncreform.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. The Truth on all the wires: Soldier's Mother Ecstatic about Obama's Bracelet POSTED: Sunday, September 28, 2008 --- 4:40 p.m. MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. The Truth on all the wires: Soldier's Mother Ecstatic about Obama's Bracelet POSTED: Sunday, September 28, 2008 --- 4:40 p.m. MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. The Truth on all the wires: Soldier's Mother Ecstatic about Obama's Bracelet POSTED: Sunday, September 28, 2008 --- 4:40 p.m. MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News? They've become an unhinged toxic fringe with nothing to offer but anger and vitriol.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:16 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. The Truth on all the wires: Soldier's Mother Ecstatic about Obama's Bracelet POSTED: Sunday, September 28, 2008 --- 4:40 p.m. MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News? So he doesn't strain during meditation! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Cover story of this week's People...
New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? And can someone say why is this considered news? Especially in light of everything else going on... I wish Clay and his family the very best, but this is yet one more example of the inane American media at their worst. No wonder we get stuck with the likes of Bush, Cheney, Quail, etc. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Cover story of this week's People...
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:11 AM To: Yahoo Group Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cover story of this week's People... New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? And can someone say why is this considered news? Especially in light of everything else going on... I wish Clay and his family the very best, but this is yet one more example of the inane American media at their worst. No wonder we get stuck with the likes of Bush, Cheney, Quail, etc. What do you expect Sal? It's People Magazine. If you want real news - The World's Only Reliable News - read Weekly World News: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/. Today's lead story: Bat Boy to Rescue Economy: UPDATE: The lower house of the U.S. Congress has voted down the rescue plan to bail out Wall Street. Henry Paulson has called on Bat Boy to persuade those in the House of Representatives who rejected it to move the plan forward. Bat Boy seemed confident that a bounty of mosquitoes and his collection of bird skulls will do the trick.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nude Sarah
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-talk-naked- sarahsep30,0,4944201.story LINK  The gun adds a nice touch... ...but those two books are a serious problem. Is there nobody at MIU who could make the necessary improvements? It could be worth a few bob. Uns.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cover story of this week's People...
On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Rick Archer wrote: What do you expect Sal? It’s People Magazine. If you want real news – “The World’s Only Reliable News” – read Weekly World News: http:// www.weeklyworldnews.com/. Today’s lead story: Bat Boy to Rescue Economy: UPDATE: The lower house of the U.S. Congress has voted down the rescue plan to bail out Wall Street. Henry Paulson has called on Bat Boy to persuade those in the House of Representatives who rejected it to move the plan forward. Bat Boy seemed confident that a bounty of mosquitoes and his collection of bird skulls will do the trick. Now, *that's* what I'm talking about, Rick...real, substantial stories about things that actually *matter.* Sure glad Paulson is right on the job there... You don't suppose Bat Boy is gay, do you? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? And can someone say why is this considered news? Especially in light of everything else going on... I wish Clay and his family the very best, but this is yet one more example of the inane American media at their worst. No wonder we get stuck with the likes of Bush, Cheney, Quail, etc. Sal If he's got a child, then that means he goes both ways. Aside from that, he's a great singer, a remarkable talent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: http://yogavisionaries.com/monthly.php?update=oct08 Look for the market to stabilize by the third week of October. That is only if a UFO sighting is not happening. How can you fail to love this guy? I think I managed the first time I looked at his website using the Internet Wayback Machine and realized that he systematically goes back and deletes or actually *changes* his past predictions that didn't work out the way he predicted to make it look as if more of them did. Heh heh, I read that, an excellent bit of deconstruction. What I love is the way he links UFOs to everything like they are actually some sort of emmisary from the stars and help shape world events. When I read this I actually envied him for living in such an exciting world even if it is all make-believe. He's a real head in the clouds nutter I think. And I couldn't help but notice he doesn't make a clear prediction for the presidential outcome, you'd have thought that something with an important outcome like that would be writ large in the heavens. A definite either/or with big consequences, surely Jupiter has something to say about that! And it's only a 50/50 bet! Think of the glory he could cover himself with if he came up with an accurate prediction for a change. I suspect that he's so gone (we are talking about someone who has convinced himself that not only aliens from the Pleiaides care about Earth politics and Sarah Palin but that they look like big verginas and that they speak through him) that he doesn't consciously realize that he does this. But he does. He systematically lies to make it appear that his predictions were more accurate that they were. So that he can make a living selling those predictions to others. What amazes me is not Lou's P.T. Barnum There is a sucker born every minute mentality, but the mentality of the suckers. If he actually manages TO make a living while doing this, I shudder to think what his customers are like. Probably, and unfortunately, very numerous. I am reminded of one of P.T. Barnum's most famous tricks. He needed to empty the tent after one performance so that he could fill it with the next group of suckers, but people were hanging around talking and wouldn't leave. So he picked up a bullhorn and started shouting, This way to see the egress! This way to see the egress! Everyone followed him, to the egress. Heh. egress Pronunciation: \#712;#275;-#716;gres\ Function: noun Etymology: Latin egressus, from egredi to go out, from e- + gradi to go more at grade 1 : the action or right of going or coming out 2 : a place or means of going out : exit
[FairfieldLife] Kucinich tells Maddow: Bailout plan is 'immoral'
Shemp's favorite girl interviews Kucinich: I believe in this idea of making sure that the great mass of people get some help. This plan is immoral, the Ohio Democrat and former presidential candidate told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. This plan is a disgrace. It bails out people on Wall Street who have speculated and who would drive this economy into the ground unless we have some controls on them. Frankly I salute the Republicans who understood that Wall Street ought to be able to fix its own problems, he told Maddow. And a bailout would constitute a violation of every free market principle that any Republican ever believed in. More here: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucinich_tells_Maddow_Bailout_plan_immoral_1001.html So let's let the free market do it's thing and take out the rich! We got a lot of new millionaires on Monday problem was they were billionaires the day before. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi said about banks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick jochadw1@ wrote: All spiritual realities are also in a sense fantasies e.g. Jesus taught the immanent coming of the Kingdom of God but of course that didn't happen. But how real is this? If you're, say, about to turn 60 (as many are these days)... This is how the traditional Christian messianic message has been understood. Most Christians are still waiting for the Kingdom to come. But it is possible that the kingdom is really within ourselves, as MMY suggests in his teachings. It's a matter of immersing the self with the bliss of the Absolute. As such, when cosmic consciousness is attained, the person has gained heaven here on earth. And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. ~~Luke 17:20-21 [KJV] But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. ~~Matthew 6:33 [KJV] Having become a devotee of God one can never remain unhappy. This is our experience. ~~ Swami Brahmananda Saraswati [1871-1953] Great quotes to remind us what is the kingdom about.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
If he's got a child, then that means he goes both ways. Aside from that, he's a great singer, a remarkable talent. The mother is a 50-year-old friend of his. There are ways of impregnating a women without having intercourse with her.
[FairfieldLife] Stop Bush's No Banker Left Behind Act
Call the Senate Today Stop Bush's No Banker Left Behind Act Having suffered a stunning defeat of their Grand Theft Bailout Bill on Monday, the Bush Administration, the banks and Wall Street are now coming back for their second try. They are used to directing the affairs of the country regardless of the will of the people. The U.S. Senate is expected to vote tonight, Wednesday evening, in favor of a nearly identical version. This is intended to force the House of Representatives to do the same when they return tomorrow, Thursday. You can call the Capitol Switchboard at 800-473-6711 or 202-224-3121 to ask to be transferred to the offices of the Senators from your state. Bush's No Banker Left Behind Act was defeated because of overwhelming public opposition. But now the politicians have come up with an easy answer. In an unprecedented step, Congress is virtually shutting down its incoming constituent email. They are installing the digital version of riot police, protecting the politicians from an enraged population that demands to be heard. Congress has acknowledged that it is receiving millions of emails from the people of the United States, all opposing this theft of $700 billion to be handed to the richest bankers. People who try to send emails are likely to receive error messages and their emails will not go through during peak hours. Congress claims that this is a response to the overwhelming emails to keep their server from crashing; however, their server did not crash during the time they were receiving the most emails and they quietly instituted this program late Tuesday afternoon. The U.S. Senate - this country's version of the House of Lords - is returning to do the work of the White House in league with the biggest bankers. Known as millionaires club because of the elite status of its members, the U.S. Senate is playing the same role that the King's House of Lords played in earlier times in British history, a political barrier created to protect the aristocracy from the wrath of the people. VoteNoBailout.org is urging all of its members and supporters to call Congress, to email them at off peak hours, and to come directly to the U.S. Capitol on Thursday morning at 10 am so our voices can be heard at the People's Demonstration/Speakout. Congress can run but they can't hide from the wrath of the people. We won't let them. Thursday's demonstration will take place at 10 am on the South side of the Capitol at Independence Ave. and New Jersey Avenues SE. For more information, see below or go to VoteNoBailout.org. You can call the Capitol Switchboard at 800-473-6711 or 202-224-3121 to ask to be transferred to the offices of the Senators from your state.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he's got a child, then that means he goes both ways. Aside from that, he's a great singer, a remarkable talent. The mother is a 50-year-old friend of his. There are ways of impregnating a women without having intercourse with her. Very true. The alternative is rather more complicated than doing it the old fashioned way.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Hugo wrote: He's a real head in the clouds nutter I think. And I couldn't help but notice he doesn't make a clear prediction for the presidential outcome, you'd have thought that something with an important outcome like that would be writ large in the heavens. Well, I'll make a prediction, Hugo, and you can take this one to the bank: it will be either Obama or McCain. A definite either/or with big consequences, surely Jupiter has something to say about that! Well, I don't know about Jupiter, (my powers of telepathy don't extend that far, sorry) but I sure do! Sal
[FairfieldLife] The end is near!
As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. The Truth on all the wires: Soldier's Mother Ecstatic about Obama's Bracelet POSTED: Sunday, September 28, 2008 --- 4:40 p.m. MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News? In the interest of truth, here is more on that story via Judy Stein: Alex-- You wrote: Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News? FYI: If reporting this story is a criterion, The Wall Street Journal, National Review, New York Post, and Newsweek, among others, must all be divisions of Faux News. The story happens to be 100% accurate as reported in raunchydog's post (links below). But since it came out, the woman has decided Obama's mention of her son in the debate is OK with her. She supports him, so apparently she didn't want it used against him, her initial request that he not wear the bracelet notwithstanding. But the AP has updated its account with a revised headline, Soldier's mom defends Obama's mention of bracelet, removing the word ecstatic from the headline and changing the word in the body of the story from ecstatic to satisfied. Judy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the original story: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/28/family-told -obama-not-wear-soldier-sons-bracelet-where-media http://tinyurl.com/45q5r6 The story includes a transcript of the interview in March with the woman's husband on Wisconsin Public Radio. Here's the audio of the interview: http://clipcast.wpr.org:8080/ramgen/wpr/wau/rt51080329_iraqwar5years.m p3 http://tinyurl.com/4b3v44 And here's the updated AP report: http://www.startribune.com/29863889.html? elr=KArksDyycyUtyycyUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU http://tinyurl.com/3hkgr6
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
This provides an answer to that age-old question: Q: What do RLLY RLLY dumb fish who were baited into fouling out on posts in two days do with the rest of their week? A: They sit around compulsively reading Fairfield Life, unable to help themselves. Occasionally they get so upset with what they read that they even find a way to sneak in a 51st post for the week. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Barack Obama played the me too game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin. The Truth on all the wires: Soldier's Mother Ecstatic about Obama's Bracelet POSTED: Sunday, September 28, 2008 --- 4:40 p.m. MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was ecstatic during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son. Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News? In the interest of truth, here is more on that story via Judy Stein: Alex-- You wrote: Jeez, is the entire PUMAsphere a division of Faux News? FYI: If reporting this story is a criterion, The Wall Street Journal, National Review, New York Post, and Newsweek, among others, must all be divisions of Faux News. The story happens to be 100% accurate as reported in raunchydog's post (links below). But since it came out, the woman has decided Obama's mention of her son in the debate is OK with her. She supports him, so apparently she didn't want it used against him, her initial request that he not wear the bracelet notwithstanding. But the AP has updated its account with a revised headline, Soldier's mom defends Obama's mention of bracelet, removing the word ecstatic from the headline and changing the word in the body of the story from ecstatic to satisfied. Judy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the original story: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/28/family-told -obama-not-wear-soldier-sons-bracelet-where-media http://tinyurl.com/45q5r6 The story includes a transcript of the interview in March with the woman's husband on Wisconsin Public Radio. Here's the audio of the interview: http://clipcast.wpr.org:8080/ramgen/wpr/wau/rt51080329_iraqwar5years.m p3 http://tinyurl.com/4b3v44 And here's the updated AP report: http://www.startribune.com/29863889.html? elr=KArksDyycyUtyycyUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU http://tinyurl.com/3hkgr6
[FairfieldLife] Revolt of the Nihilist
To All: There are various reasons why Congress voted down the bailout plan. One of the reasons is the fear of losing their jobs because of voter anger. So, they let the other members to vote for the bailout plan. In short, there is an element of cowardice involved in this scenario. Nonetheless, here's one author's opinion of what occurred last Monday. (from the NY Times) Revolt of the Nihilists By DAVID BROOKS Published: September 29, 2008 In 1933, Franklin Roosevelt inherited an economic crisis. He understood that his first job was to restore confidence, to give people a sense that somebody was in charge, that something was going to be done. David Brooks The Conversation Times columnists David Brooks and Gail Collins discuss the 2008 presidential race. All Conversations » Readers' Comments There is no escaping at least some pain when the fundamental workings of the economic system are called into question. John Gilbert, Pasadena, CA This generation of political leaders is confronting a similar situation, and, so far, they have failed utterly and catastrophically to project any sense of authority, to give the world any reason to believe that this country is being governed. Instead, by rejecting the rescue package on Monday, they have made the psychological climate much worse. George W. Bush is completely out of juice, having squandered his influence with Republicans as well as Democrats. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is a smart moneyman, but an inept legislator. He was told time and time again that House Republicans would not support his bill, and his response was to get down on bended knee before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. House leaders of both parties got wrapped up in their own negotiations, but did it occur to any of them that it might be hard to pass a bill fairly described as a bailout to Wall Street? Was the media darling Barney Frank too busy to notice the 95 Democrats who opposed his bill? Pelosi's fiery speech at the crucial moment didn't actually kill this bill, but did she have to act like a Democratic fund-raiser at the most important moment of her career? And let us recognize above all the 228 who voted no the authors of this revolt of the nihilists. They showed the world how much they detest their own leaders and the collected expertise of the Treasury and Fed. They did the momentarily popular thing, and if the country slides into a deep recession, they will have the time and leisure to watch public opinion shift against them. House Republicans led the way and will get most of the blame. It has been interesting to watch them on their single-minded mission to destroy the Republican Party. Not long ago, they led an anti- immigration crusade that drove away Hispanic support. Then, too, they listened to the loudest and angriest voices in their party, oblivious to the complicated anxieties that lurk in most American minds. Now they have once again confused talk radio with reality. If this economy slides, they will go down in history as the Smoot-Hawleys of the 21st century. With this vote, they've taken responsibility for this economy, and they will be held accountable. The short-term blows will fall on John McCain, the long-term stress on the existence of the G.O.P. as we know it. I've spoken with several House Republicans over the past few days and most admirably believe in free-market principles. What's sad is that they still think it's 1984. They still think the biggest threat comes from socialism and Walter Mondale liberalism. They seem not to have noticed how global capital flows have transformed our political economy. We're living in an age when a vast excess of capital sloshes around the world fueling cycles of bubble and bust. When the capital floods into a sector or economy, it washes away sober business practices, and habits of discipline and self-denial. Then the money managers panic and it sloshes out, punishing the just and unjust alike. What we need in this situation is authority. Not heavy-handed government regulation, but the steady and powerful hand of some public institutions that can guard against the corrupting influences of sloppy money and then prevent destructive contagions when the credit dries up. The Congressional plan was nobody's darling, but it was an effort to assert some authority. It was an effort to alter the psychology of the markets. People don't trust the banks; the bankers don't trust each other. It was an effort to address the crisis of authority in Washington. At least it might have stabilized the situation so fundamental reforms of the world's financial architecture could be undertaken later. But the 228 House members who voted no have exacerbated the global psychological free fall, and now we have a crisis of political authority on top of the crisis of financial authority. The only thing now is to try again to rescue the rescue.
[FairfieldLife] Winston Churchill on Socialism-(short).
A socialist policy is abhorrent to the...ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one 'where' they are to work, 'what' they are to work at, 'where' they may go and *what they may say*. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a *political police*. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance... Winston Churchill
[FairfieldLife] Bush has Historic Disapproval - 53% say McCain same as Bush
A new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds a record 70% of Americans disapprove of President Bush's job performance and a career-low 26% approve. Bad news for Sen. John McCain: 53% think he would lead the country in the same direction as Bush. http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=5920248page=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They've become an unhinged toxic fringe with nothing to offer but anger and vitriol. What I don't understand is how they can go from supporting Hillary Clinton to supporting Sarah Palin. Ideologically, they're polar opposites. And, in terms of qualifications, Hillary is a well-educated, well-informed policy wonk with a thorough grasp of national issues, while Sarah is a provincial backwoods yokel who believes humans coexisted with dinosaurs, believes homosexuality is a choice, and has zero grasp of national issues. It makes me think that PUMAcrats are primarily focused on getting women elected, regardless of ideology or qualifications.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This provides an answer to that age-old question: Q: What do RLLY RLLY dumb fish who were baited into fouling out on posts in two days do with the rest of their week? A: They sit around compulsively reading Fairfield Life, unable to help themselves. Occasionally they get so upset with what they read that they even find a way to sneak in a 51st post for the week. :-) According to the Almighty Sri Sri PostCountananda-ji, Judy only made 49 posts, so my post can be her official 50th.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Winston Churchill on Socialism-(short).
It will prescribe for every one 'where' they are to work, 'what' they are to work at, 'where' they may go and *what they may say*. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. Sounds like communism to me. I worked with a guy who moved to the US from China. In China, he was told You're a welder. In the US, he works in IT. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/1/08, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Winston Churchill on Socialism-(short). To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:16 PM A socialist policy is abhorrent to the...ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one 'where' they are to work, 'what' they are to work at, 'where' they may go and *what they may say*. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a *political police*. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance... Winston Churchill To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:05 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: This provides an answer to that age-old question: Q: What do RLLY RLLY dumb fish who were baited into fouling out on posts in two days do with the rest of their week? A: They sit around compulsively reading Fairfield Life, unable to help themselves. Occasionally they get so upset with what they read that they even find a way to sneak in a 51st post for the week. Social exclusion causes unconscious mimicry Lakin et al. make some interesting observations on our reactions to being socially excluded by others, we are likely to unconsciously start mimicking their behaviors: Research across various disciplines has demonstrated that social exclusion has devastating psychological, emotional, and behavioral consequences. Excluded individuals are therefore motivated to affiliate with others, even though they may not have the resources, cognitive or otherwise, to do so. The current research explored whether nonconscious mimicry of other individuals—a low-cost, low- risk, automatic behavior—might help excluded individuals address threatened belongingness needs. Our first experiment demonstrated that excluded people mimic a subsequent interaction partner more than included people do. A second experiment showed that individuals excluded by an in-group selectively (and nonconsciously) mimic a confederate who is an in-group member more than a confederate who is an out-group member. The relationship between exclusion and mimicry suggests that there are automatic behaviors people can use to recover from the experience of being excluded. In addition, this research demonstrates that nonconscious mimicry is selective and sensitive to context.
[FairfieldLife] Neural correlates of Zen meditation: “Thinkin g about Not-Thinking”
Neural correlates of Zen meditation The complete title of the article by Pagoni et al. is “Thinking about Not-Thinking”: Neural Correlates of Conceptual Processing during Zen Meditation. Here is their abstract: Recent neuroimaging studies have identified a set of brain regions that are metabolically active during wakeful rest and consistently deactivate in a variety the performance of demanding tasks. This “default network” has been functionally linked to the stream of thoughts occurring automatically in the absence of goal-directed activity and which constitutes an aspect of mental behavior specifically addressed by many meditative practices. Zen meditation, in particular, is traditionally associated with a mental state of full awareness but reduced conceptual content, to be attained via a disciplined regulation of attention and bodily posture. Using fMRI and a simplified meditative condition interspersed with a lexical decision task, we investigated the neural correlates of conceptual processing during meditation in regular Zen practitioners and matched control subjects. While behavioral performance did not differ between groups, Zen practitioners displayed a reduced duration of the neural response linked to conceptual processing in regions of the default network, suggesting that meditative training may foster the ability to control the automatic cascade of semantic associations triggered by a stimulus and, by extension, to voluntarily regulate the flow of spontaneous mentation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The end is near!
BillyG. wrote: As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power So the sky is falling, chicken little? Your comrades have been running around saying that for the past week whereas in prior weeks economy was doing fine. It looks like you can't have if both ways. You want a free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there is no bailout. But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to be free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else. So when their assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, i.e. the bailout: let big government and their taxpayers bailout the rich. So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged sword. :-D I think we need socialism if you want a global economy. It is best managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular person or group can control it. Make it truly transparent and responsible to the people. Note this to manage the commons or what should remain in the public domain. Those things are best managed by government. Whereas government has no business running small business. It makes no sense and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some capitalism which should suit you and your small business just fine. Government will limit how big and powerful you can become. We are seeing now what happens when you turn the world over to the greedy.
[FairfieldLife] Der Spiegel: The End of Arrogance
[A long but excellent article on the end of the American empire, by Germany's most prestigious newsweekly.] The banking crisis is upending American dominance of the financial markets and world politics. The industrialized countries are sliding into recession, the era of turbo-capitalism is coming to an end and US military might is ebbing. Still, this is no time to gloat. There are days when all it takes is a single speech to illustrate the decline of a world power. A face can speak volumes, as can the speaker's tone of voice, the speech itself or the audience's reaction. Kings and queens have clung to the past before and humiliated themselves in public, but this time it was merely a United States president. Or what is left of him. Full article at: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,581502,00.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Winston Churchill on Socialism-(short).
Well what happened to that guy in China is actually authoritarianism not necessarily communism. Sounds like they didn't want him to take away a better paying job from a native. You have the same thing in other countries except the US where the suits want cheap labor. I remember going to a TM thing in Vancouver once and the TM teacher I was riding with had to blurt out that we were TM teachers which wound up getting us questioned in the offices at the border. They were afraid we were there to steal jobs from Canadians. As we pulled away I yelled at the dumbass for doing that as all he had to say was we're visiting or visiting some friends and we would have just sped right through. He replied I was honest but that wasn't the question they asked, just what is the purpose of your visit. Communism is collectivism and can come in two flavors: state run and corporate run. Both are bad but if Billy had his way we'd wind up in a Blade Runner world with no government which Ridley Scott defines as a form of communism. gullible fool wrote: It will prescribe for every one 'where' they are to work, 'what' they are to work at, 'where' they may go and *what they may say*. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. Sounds like communism to me. I worked with a guy who moved to the US from China. In China, he was told You're a welder. In the US, he works in IT. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/1/08, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Winston Churchill on Socialism-(short). To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:16 PM A socialist policy is abhorrent to the...ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one 'where' they are to work, 'what' they are to work at, 'where' they may go and *what they may say*. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a *political police*. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance... Winston Churchill To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 1:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama asked to stop wearing soldier's bracelet - raunchy lying again --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They've become an unhinged toxic fringe with nothing to offer but anger and vitriol. What I don't understand is how they can go from supporting Hillary Clinton to supporting Sarah Palin. Ideologically, they're polar opposites. And, in terms of qualifications, Hillary is a well-educated, well-informed policy wonk with a thorough grasp of national issues, while Sarah is a provincial backwoods yokel who believes humans coexisted with dinosaurs, believes homosexuality is a choice, and has zero grasp of national issues. It makes me think that PUMAcrats are primarily focused on getting women elected, regardless of ideology or qualifications. I think more fundamentally, they're more focused on indulging in petty emotions. They were emotionally all wrapped up with Hillary, and now, intellectually, have rejected her in favor of continued emotional indulgence. Love (and hate) know no reason.
[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul: Buying bad debt is the wrong solution
Ron Paul: Buying bad debt is the wrong solution * Story Highlights * Paul: Bailout is bad for taxpayers, sticks to policies that caused economic troubles * You have to allow the market to adjust prices downward, he says * Crisis putting pressure on dollar, could force world to give up on it, Paul says * Paul: Increasing insurance limits would cover over the mistakes (CNN) -- Two days after the House rejected the $700 billion bailout bill, the Senate is set to vote on the rescue plan for financial institutions. The vote is scheduled for after sundown Wednesday. Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama, and Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, all said they would be present for the vote. Speaking to CNN's John Roberts on Wednesday, House Financial Services Committee member and former Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul discussed why he thinks the bailout bill is the wrong solution to the economic problem and what he would do to secure financial security. John Roberts: Congressman, great to see you. I was browsing around on your Web site, Campaign for Liberty. And right there on the very front page, you are appealing to your supporters -- and there are tens of thousands of them -- to get in touch with key senators to tell them to vote this bill down when it comes to a vote in the Senate at sundown tonight. Why do you want them to vote it down? Rep. Ron Paul: I think it's a bad bill. I think it's bad for the taxpayers. I think it's doing more of the same thing. The same policy that we're following now with this bill is exactly how we got into that trouble. VideoWatch Ron Paul explain why he opposes the bailout » And you know, I really don't have that much clout in Washington, D.C. And I recognize it. But there are a couple people outside of Washington that care about what I'm thinking and care about free market ... economics. And they will respond. And I think we did help generate a little bit of mail to the House members. So you go where you can have the influence. And I think that people -- the grassroots -- understand this a lot better than members of Congress give them credit for. Roberts: So, instead of the bills that are currently before the Senate, the one that may be before the House as early as Thursday, what would you do? Paul: Well, we need to do a lot, but a lot differently. We have to recognize how we got into this problem. We have too much debt. We have too much malinvestment. Roberts:OK, OK. So we recognize all of the things that got us here. But, right now, today, what would you do, if not this bill? Paul: You have to liquidate those mistakes. Those mistakes were made due to monetary policy. So you have to allow the market to adjust prices downward. And that's what we're not allowing to do. If there are too many houses and the prices are too high, the sooner we get the prices down to the market level, as soon as we quit trying to encourage more housing -- this is what we're doing. They're trying to stimulate houses and keep prices high. It's exactly opposite of what we should do. So, we should get out of the way and not buy up bad debt. There's illiquid assets, but most of those are probably worthless. They're mostly derivatives. And we're sticking those with the taxpayer. So we have to recognize that the liquidation of debt is crucial. And if we did that, we would have tough times, there's no doubt about it, for a year. But if we keep propping a system up that's not viable, we're going to have a problem for decades, just like we did in the Depression. That's what we're on the verge of doing. Roberts: Congressman Paul, what do you think of this idea that's being floated -- this process called mark to market, which would, they would modify the rules so that the, right now, paper that a lot of these institutions are holding, which is worth nothing, they would actually be able to assign some sort of value to it. Some people are saying that that would just hide the problem. Other people are wondering if maybe that might create some sort of voodoo accounting that would allow widespread abuse in the system. What do you think? Paul: It demonstrates the problem. You know, when they prevented them from marking them down, this was an SEC [Securities and Exchange Commission] regulation. Shows how regulations backfire. If you had a market economy and then if you had a market-adjusted FDIC, where insurance was based on the strength of the bank, this would have happened on a daily basis. But instead, we insure everybody, no matter what the bank is doing, and we do it, either we overkill -- we give you too much credit on bad investments -- and then we make changes all of a sudden, and they're drastic, to what they have done. So, it's impossible. It's either too little or too much. And what you need is insurance of, FDIC type of insurance, has to be driven by the marketplace to measure the viability of a bank.
[FairfieldLife] What it's like to debate Sarah Palin
I know firsthand: She's a master of the non-answer. By Andrew Halcro - October 1, 2008 - Christian Science Monitor Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I'm amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, 'Does any of this really matter?' Palin said. Anchorage, Alaska - When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full. I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do. On paper, of course, the debate appears to be a mismatch. In 2000, Palin was the mayor of an Alaskan town of 5,500 people, while Biden was serving his 28th year as a United States senator. Her major public policy concern was building a local ice rink and sports center. His major public policy concern was the State Department's decision to grant an export license to allow sales of heavy-lift helicopters to Turkey, during tense UN-sponsored Cyprus peace talks. On paper, the difference in experience on both domestic and foreign policy is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing a bullet. Unfortunately for Biden, if recent history is an indicator, experience or a grasp of the issues won't matter when it comes to debating Palin. On April 17, 2006, Palin and I participated in a debate at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks on agriculture issues. The next day, the Fairbanks Daily News Miner published this excerpt: Andrew Halcro, a declared independent candidate from Anchorage, came armed with statistics on agricultural productivity. Sarah Palin, a Republican from Wasilla, said the Matanuska Valley provides a positive example for other communities interested in agriculture to study. On April 18, 2006, Palin and I sat together in a hotel coffee shop comparing campaign trail notes. As we talked about the debates, Palin made a comment that highlights the phenomenon that Biden is up against. Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I'm amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, 'Does any of this really matter?' Palin said. While policy wonks such as Biden might cringe, it seemed to me that Palin was simply vocalizing her strength without realizing it. During the campaign, Palin's knowledge on public policy issues never matured because it didn't have to. Her ability to fill the debate halls with her presence and her gift of the glittering generality made it possible for her to rely on populism instead of policy. Palin is a master of the nonanswer. She can turn a 60-second response to a query about her specific solutions to healthcare challenges into a folksy story about how she's met people on the campaign trail who face healthcare challenges. All without uttering a word about her public-policy solutions to healthcare challenges. In one debate, a moderator asked the candidates to name a bill the legislature had recently passed that we didn't like. I named one. Democratic candidate Tony Knowles named one. But Sarah Palin instead used her allotted time to criticize the incumbent governor, Frank Murkowski. Asked to name a bill we did like, the same pattern emerged: Palin didn't name a bill. And when she does answer the actual question asked, she has a canny ability to connect with the audience on a personal level. For example, asked to name a major issue that had been ignored during the campaign, I discussed the health of local communities, Mr. Knowles talked about affordable healthcare, and Palin talked about ... the need to protect hunting and fishing rights. So what does that mean for Biden? With shorter question-and-answer times and limited interaction between the two, he should simply ignore Palin in a respectful manner on the stage and answer the questions as though he were alone. Any attempt to flex his public-policy knowledge and show Palin is not ready for prime time will inevitably cast him in the role of the bully. On the other side of the stage, if Palin is to be successful, she needs to do what she does best: fill the room with her presence and stick to the scripted sound bites. Andrew Halcro served two terms as a Republican member of the Alaska State House of Representatives. He ran for governor as an Independent in 2006, debating Sarah Palin more than two dozen times. He blogs at www.andrewhalcro.com . http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1001/p09s01-coop.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ravi Batra on the Economy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Southern Methodist University economics professor Dr. Ravi Batra: McCain vs. Obama on the United States Economy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUJqNmkcmSw American Economic Debt and Deficit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M5Of0vdObc Very good lecture. But I'm sure the Republicans will not agree to the points made by Dr. Batra. Nonetheless, I agree tha tax cuts should be made to the middle class and increase taxes for the wealthy. In fact, it appears that the tax cut for the middle class will stimulate the economy since they will more likely spend it to purchase goods and services. Thus, this will create surpluses in the budget which in turn will reduce the national debt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BillyG. wrote: As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power So the sky is falling, chicken little? Your comrades have been running around saying that for the past week whereas in prior weeks economy was doing fine. It looks like you can't have if both ways. You want a free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there is no bailout. But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to be free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else. So when their assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, i.e. the bailout: let big government and their taxpayers bailout the rich. So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged sword. :-D I think we need socialism if you want a global economy. It is best managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular person or group can control it. Make it truly transparent and responsible to the people. Note this to manage the commons or what should remain in the public domain. Those things are best managed by government. Whereas government has no business running small business. It makes no sense and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some capitalism which should suit you and your small business just fine. Government will limit how big and powerful you can become. We are seeing now what happens when you turn the world over to the greedy. Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
Re: [FairfieldLife] Der Spiegel: The End of Arrogance
Vaj wrote: [A long but excellent article on the end of the American empire, by Germany's most prestigious newsweekly.] The banking crisis is upending American dominance of the financial markets and world politics. The industrialized countries are sliding into recession, the era of turbo-capitalism is coming to an end and US military might is ebbing. Still, this is no time to gloat. There are days when all it takes is a single speech to illustrate the decline of a world power. A face can speak volumes, as can the speaker's tone of voice, the speech itself or the audience's reaction. Kings and queens have clung to the past before and humiliated themselves in public, but this time it was merely a United States president. Or what is left of him. Full article at: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,581502,00.html A third world US might be really cool. It won't be like the Great Depression because technology is better and people are better educated. But our economy has been bloated and over priced. A more humble America would be more tolerable. I posted a couple weeks back an article by a professor of economics who spent some time in India and wrote an article on why people vote Republican. I experienced similar things when I was there and particularly a similar experience he had when he returned to the US. After spending a few weeks with kind people who would give you the shirt off their backs once I landed in the US, I experienced the whining, spoiled brats that Americans are. It was depressing. These whining spoiled brats need a big lesson and I think they are about to get it and it will be *very* humbling. And it will be easier for us because everyone here on FFL are unattached, correct? :-D Thom Hartmann in the second hour of his show this morning read a detailed timeline of the Great Depression starting with the event leading up to the 1929 crash and to the actual start of the Great Depression which was 3 years later. You see the market just as it did yesterday recovered a bit two days after October 29th, 1929. But it kept going up and down but in general going down until it reached bottom in 1931. The 1929 was preceded by the bursting of the housing bubble in 1927. Sound familiar? This is just history repeating itself. But I've got to say it is hard to find a good timeline as most (including the PBS site) leave out some details (such as the housing bubble and burst). Hartmann was reading from many newspaper articles leading up to and following the 1929 crash. We don't need monster homes. We don't need 500 channels with nothing to see We don't need gas hog SUVs or pickups (especially if they are never used for the business purposes they were intended). We don't need big box stores. Small ones will do just fine. Bye bye, America the bloated.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near! Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 The world has witnessed the rise and fall of monarchy, the rise and fall of dictatorship, the rise and fall of feudalism, the rise and fall of communism, and the rise of democracy; and now we are witnessing the fall of democracy... the theme of the evolution of life continues, sweeping away with it all that does not blossom into perfection. - Maharishi, on the evolutionary direction of Natural Law, 1998
[FairfieldLife] Sing. SING! For dear leader Obama!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exRH_ngVUVQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs
[FairfieldLife] Letterman on Bush: How did he do as president?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8_u1FLu30
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? Obviously yentas like you. And can someone say why is this considered news? It isn't. But since people like you just love to lap up this kind of gossip, there is a market for it. I heard he got $500,000 for the article. Your share, through your purchase of the magazine was probably a buck or two, Sal. Multiply that buck by 5 or 6 million fellow suckers and you have an answer to your question. Reading about Clay Aiken is like reading a Barry Wright post on FFL: if you consume the product, you make a market for it. Especially in light of everything else going on... I wish Clay and his family the very best, but this is yet one more example of the inane American media at their worst. No wonder we get stuck with the likes of Bush, Cheney, Quail, etc. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sing. SING! For dear leader Obama!
shempmcgurk wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exRH_ngVUVQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs Don't worry Shemp, you'll feel much better after a few weeks in one of our reeducation camps. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:11 AM To: Yahoo Group Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cover story of this week's People... New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? And can someone say why is this considered news? Especially in light of everything else going on... I wish Clay and his family the very best, but this is yet one more example of the inane American media at their worst. No wonder we get stuck with the likes of Bush, Cheney, Quail, etc. What do you expect Sal? It's People Magazine. If you want real news - The World's Only Reliable News - read Weekly World News: http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/. Today's lead story: Bat Boy to Rescue Economy: UPDATE: The lower house of the U.S. Congress has voted down the rescue plan to bail out Wall Street. Henry Paulson has called on Bat Boy to persuade those in the House of Representatives who rejected it to move the plan forward. Bat Boy seemed confident that a bounty of mosquitoes and his collection of bird skulls will do the trick. Sure. Make fun. But Bat Boy is real. Here's a photo of him if you don't believe me.
[FairfieldLife] More proof of Bat Boy's existence
[http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/batboypasspor\ t.jpg] http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/batboypasspor\ t.jpg Weekly World News investigative reporters have discovered that the U.S. government has issued Bat Boy a passport for international travel! Reactions from politicians has been mixed. Presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign manager issued the statement, Senator Obama is happy to see any Americansmutant or otherwiseventuring out and changing how global citizens view our country. The GOP was more cautious. During a meet-and-greet with Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin, Governor Palin was asked how she felt on the matter. I can't imagine he's one of those kids who graduated college and their parents got him a passport and a backpack and said, `Go off and travel the world.' If he worked hard, then he deserves it. When asked for reasons why Bat Boya known felon after having led cops on a three-state car chaseshould be allowed to travel abroad, she stuttered and replied, I'll try to find you some and I'll bring `em to ya!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 Spoken like the man he was, one of the least informed humans on earth. Was he a reader? No, like George Bush he didn't feel a need to read. Where did he get his news? From sycophants whose proximity to the Master was determined by the amount of smoke they could blow up his ass. No negative news was ever allowed. Every piece of news was evaluated for how it reflected the success of Maharishi's trademarked products. When he attended his own symposiums with actual learned people,did he spend some time learning from them No, through bullying and a bit of hairy Sarah Palin cuteness, he would avoid ever actually interacting with a detailed view from his speakers. He preferred to find a word that rhymed with one of his buzz words and spend his time in self-satisfied giggling at how clever he was. His view on communism was the perspective of a rich, uneducated idiot. If he had bothered to crack a newspaper he would see how his beloved communism would have dealt with him. This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: BillyG. wrote: As Obama assumes the Presidency he will usher in a new era in the World and America, socialism! Here's what it'll look like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_Democracy_in_power So the sky is falling, chicken little? Your comrades have been running around saying that for the past week whereas in prior weeks economy was doing fine. It looks like you can't have if both ways. You want a free market economy and it is playing out now and will if there is no bailout. But it looks you folks really believe it is supposed to be free market for the rich and poverty for everyone else. So when their assets dwindle they start calling for of all things socialism, i.e. the bailout: let big government and their taxpayers bailout the rich. So it appears the free market economic system is a double edged sword. :-D I think we need socialism if you want a global economy. It is best managed by governmental groups designed so that no particular person or group can control it. Make it truly transparent and responsible to the people. Note this to manage the commons or what should remain in the public domain. Those things are best managed by government. Whereas government has no business running small business. It makes no sense and *would* truly be inefficient so you will still get some capitalism which should suit you and your small business just fine. Government will limit how big and powerful you can become. We are seeing now what happens when you turn the world over to the greedy. Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982
[FairfieldLife] Text of the Senate Bailout Bill
For your light afternoon reading: http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/01/news/pdf/index.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Thank you for the outpouring of love today towards our dear Molly. Frank was with her all day and began getting responses early this afternoon - a hand movement, shoulder shrug - that's about all she can manage. I brought Evan and Willow to her at about 5PM, and we were all there until they shooed us out at 6:30 for shift change. MRI done on her neck at 9PM indicates that Molly's spinal cord is bruised but not severed, so we are cautiously hopeful. More scans will come in the next few days to determine condition of her brain, facial bones, etc. Her condition is still delicate. The doctors are waiting for swelling to go down before moving her around alot. As reported by the local radio stations' e-news: Molly Atkinson of Fairfield has charges pending after losing control of her 2003 Ford Focus while traveling northbound on Osage Avenue 4.7 miles southeast of Fairfield and a half a mile north of the intersection with 252nd Street and on Friday afternoon at 4:30 p.m., causing Atkinson's vehicle to roll into the northwest direction and into the westbound ditch. Atkinson was transported to the Jefferson County Hospital and treated for the non-incapacitating injuries sustained in the one-car accident. Atkinson's vehicle suffered a total estimated value of approximately $6,000 worth of total damages sustained in the crash. Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 As reported by the local radio stations' e-news: Molly Atkinson of Fairfield has charges pending after losing control of her 2003 Ford Focus while traveling northbound on Osage Avenue 4.7 miles southeast of Fairfield and a half a mile north of the intersection with 252nd Street and on Friday afternoon at 4:30 p.m., causing Atkinson's vehicle to roll into the northwest direction and into the westbound ditch. Atkinson was transported to the Jefferson County Hospital and treated for the non-incapacitating injuries sustained in the one-car accident. Atkinson's vehicle suffered a total estimated value of approximately $6,000 worth of total damages sustained in the crash. Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren't the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush has Historic Disapproval - 53% say McCain same as Bush
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A new ABC News/Washington Post poll finds a record 70% of Americans disapprove of President Bush's job performance and a career-low 26% approve. Bad news for Sen. John McCain: 53% think he would lead the country in the same direction as Bush. http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=5920248page=1 http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=5920248page=1 I remember several years ago people calling Bush the worst president ever. Looks like they were right. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover.. What it lacks is the understanding of human nature. People who don't see the personal benefit for busting their ass stop working hard. And politics becomes corrupt as all the party leaders of every communist country we know about has proven. The collapse of communism and the rise of free enterprise in previously communist countries has proven the flaws in communism. That is for anyone who likes to read or knows people from these countries. You know, people with their eyes opened. Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether. So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need to be violently overthrown by the workers? And BTW if the guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the revolution, or part of the problem? But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Winston Churchill on Socialism-(short).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A socialist policy is abhorrent to the...ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one 'where' they are to work, 'what' they are to work at, 'where' they may go and *what they may say*. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a *political police*. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance... Winston Churchill I wonder what Churchill thinks about the Bush corporate welfare? In addition, as a Brit myself (Churchill country), I can tell you, the very socialist national health insurance system, education system, and national pension schemes in Britain are considered far better than the American system by most Brits and even by most other countries around the world. Half the folks in America do not have health coverage, and some of those covered actually go bankrupt if they have a family member with an ongoing illness. Your education system is pretty good up to high school, but then starts to cost the individual crippling amounts, and your social security looks like it won't get paid out to those now working when they retire. OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
Well, I'll make a prediction, Hugo, and you can take this one to the bank: it will be either Obama or McCain. Or Hillary. :) Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:33 PM On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Hugo wrote: He's a real head in the clouds nutter I think. And I couldn't help but notice he doesn't make a clear prediction for the presidential outcome, you'd have thought that something with an important outcome like that would be writ large in the heavens. Well, I'll make a prediction, Hugo, and you can take this one to the bank: it will be either Obama or McCain. A definite either/or with big consequences, surely Jupiter has something to say about that! Well, I don't know about Jupiter, (my powers of telepathy don't extend that far, sorry) but I sure do! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
I'm just amazed in this day and age someone would actually drive a car w/out their seat belt on!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:13 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 As reported by the local radio stations' e-news: Molly Atkinson of Fairfield has charges pending after losing control of her 2003 Ford Focus while traveling northbound on Osage Avenue 4.7 miles southeast of Fairfield and a half a mile north of the intersection with 252nd Street and on Friday afternoon at 4:30 p.m., causing Atkinson's vehicle to roll into the northwest direction and into the westbound ditch. Atkinson was transported to the Jefferson County Hospital and treated for the non-incapacitating injuries sustained in the one-car accident. Atkinson's vehicle suffered a total estimated value of approximately $6,000 worth of total damages sustained in the crash. Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren't the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover. For some reason, the real difference seems to have alluded Winston Churchill. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/1/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:31 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Communism is the most intelligent political system - Maharishi, Bopprad, 1982 This statement is Maharishi at his worst. I am surprised that Nabby gets so much joy posting it. Let me guess, you don't actually know people who escaped communist governments do you Nabby? Communism as a political system is obviously the most intelligent. First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover.. What it lacks is the understanding of human nature. People who don't see the personal benefit for busting their ass stop working hard. And politics becomes corrupt as all the party leaders of every communist country we know about has proven. The collapse of communism and the rise of free enterprise in previously communist countries has proven the flaws in communism. That is for anyone who likes to read or knows people from these countries. You know, people with their eyes opened. Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether. So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need to be violently overthrown by the workers? And BTW if the guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the revolution, or part of the problem? But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: SNIP Your rant has nothing to do with facts, only feelings as usual. That communism hasn't worked perfectly in any country TO THIS DAY is irrelevant and a totally different discussion altogether. So tell me what day it will be when humans stop acting in their own best self interest and when all the educated people in the world need to be violently overthrown by the workers? And BTW if the guy who changes oil at Jiffy Lube uses a computer, is he part of the revolution, or part of the problem? But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to survive. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers tomorrow morning. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? Obviously yentas like you. Yeah, I just can't wait to fix Clay up with one of my kids, or their friends... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren’t the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that. Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
snip But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught by Steve Drucker. But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the text books we used. So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work. Countries that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas socialist counties often voted for those changes. You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to survive. And you didn't get the point that neither you nor Maharishi know the difference between communism and socialism. So I call your bluff, show me the difference in the definitions and why Maharishi meant communism rather than socialism. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers tomorrow morning. ;-) The only super power in the world is having economic trouble. It will ripple through all other countries because of our importance in the world's economy. We will weather this storm as we have many others and still be the world's only super power. (till China crushes us all)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:36 PM, gullible fool wrote: Well, I'll make a prediction, Hugo, and you can take this one to the bank: it will be either Obama or McCain. Or Hillary. :) As president of...? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
As president of...? Why, as president of the United States for the next 24 years, of course! A consitutional amendment will be no deal-breaker when you consider the worldwide accolades that will be showered upon Our Beloved President Hillary by one and all. Do you think I should change 'worldwide' to 'solar system' wide, Sal? You know, to include the Pleiadians? Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:53 PM On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:36 PM, gullible fool wrote: Well, I'll make a prediction, Hugo, and you can take this one to the bank: it will be either Obama or McCain. Or Hillary. :) As president of...? Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Hey, I wear my seatbelt if I drive from the Amoco station across from Everybody's over to Everybody's. But a fines are supposed to teach people a lesson. If they've had a serious accident, that has been accomplished, and it seems petty and money-grubbing to fine them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lou Valentino's October Predictions
On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:59 PM, gullible fool wrote: As president of...? Why, as president of the United States for the next 24 years, of course! A consitutional amendment will be no deal-breaker when you consider the worldwide accolades that will be showered upon Our Beloved President Hillary by one and all. Do you think I should change 'worldwide' to 'solar system' wide, Sal? You know, to include the Pleiadians? I don't know, gull...are the Pleiadians Democrats? Let me quick consult the Magic 8-Ball... OK, got an answer: You can count on it. All hail President Hillary! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sing. SING! For dear leader Obama!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exRH_ngVUVQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs Don't worry Shemp, you'll feel much better after a few weeks in one of our reeducation camps. ;-) Yes, I think it's time for 9 year olds to get the vote!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: M Atkinson - accident update Karma take care of it,all
Karma did its works again we may know not why but it did. In a message dated 10/1/2008 5:02:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Hey, I wear my seatbelt if I drive from the Amoco station across from Everybody’s over to Everybody’s. But a fines are supposed to teach people a lesson. If they’ve had a serious accident, that has been accomplished, and it seems petty and money-grubbing to fine them. **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
Does anyone actually know for sure that she was not wearing a seatbelt? You can still get injured wearing one. And how, pray, does Mr. Archer think it probable that she was driving too fast? How does he know? Was he there? Seems to me there's a lot of blame being heaped on this unfortunate woman without much knowledge of the facts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren't the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that. Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sing. SING! For dear leader Obama!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exRH_ngVUVQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs Don't worry Shemp, you'll feel much better after a few weeks in one of our reeducation camps. ;-) Wh? Four years at MIU wasn't enough?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Does anyone actually know for sure that she was not wearing a seatbelt? She was thrown from the car. You can still get injured wearing one. And how, pray, does Mr. Archer think it probable that she was driving too fast? How does he know? Was he there? Seems to me there's a lot of blame being heaped on this unfortunate woman without much knowledge of the facts. She was driving on a dirt road with curves in it. Skid marks indicated she went into a skid and lost control of the vehicle, which went off the road and rolled.
[FairfieldLife] Report: Sarah Palin appeals to the White Trash Vote?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But I may be wrong. Tell me why Maharishi uses the word Communism which involves a violent power transfer, rather than socialism? From which kindergarten did you pick up that definition ? I first really heard it in my political science class at MIU taught by Steve Drucker. Who said MIU wasn't/isn't a kindergarten ? But it isn't an uncommon definition, it was in the text books we used. Written by americans no doubt. So your polemic trick of trying to challenge my information as coming from a kindergarten doesn't work. Countries that became communist all involved violent struggles whereas socialist counties often voted for those changes. Aha. Please explain whether Chile under Allende was a soscialist or communist country. According to your opinion that is, not something you read in a book. You didn't get the point did you. Violent overthrow of excisting regimes was necessary because the collective consciousness was to low for a natural transition. And to low for that communism to survive. And you didn't get the point that neither you nor Maharishi know the difference between communism and socialism. So I call your bluff, show me the difference in the definitions and why Maharishi meant communism rather than socialism. He used that word beacuse thats what He meant. How difficult is that to understand ? The thinkers were communists. Soscialists did not shape those thoughts. Marx and Engels did. That's why. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi And if you don't believe it just pick up your morning newspapers tomorrow morning. ;-) The only super power in the world is having economic trouble. It will ripple through all other countries because of our importance in the world's economy. We will weather this storm as we have many others and still be the world's only super power. (till China crushes us all) Dream on. Unless you drop capitalism, or at least adopt a social- democratic society, you are finished.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Does anyone actually know for sure that she was not wearing a seatbelt? She was thrown from the car. You can still get injured wearing one. And how, pray, does Mr. Archer think it probable that she was driving too fast? How does he know? Was he there? Seems to me there's a lot of blame being heaped on this unfortunate woman without much knowledge of the facts. feste, please ! Since when did Mr. Archer bother with facts ? Facts is a word this fellow really, really dislikes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren't the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that. Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Sal There was a sad case 15 or 20 years ago in one of the suburban municipalities that surround the Phoenix area. The chief of a small police force was off duty, driving his own vehicle, and going to get a gallon of milk at 7 AM on a Sunday morning when he was involved, but not at fault, in a crippling auto accident. The police report, not written by the same force that employed him, mentioned he was not wearing his seatbelt. His insurance company never payed a dime. I checked into my own policy at the time and realized that not wearing the seatbelt could cost me a lot more than the price of a ticket. My agent told me it was considered on par with driving around a road closed sign. Coverage is voided. Some people just let it slip their mind on occassion. Methinks those who do it willfully would never take the time to determine their liability if a bad situation should arise. Everytime one of my brothers gets in my car he wants to argue that seatbelts are just a bullshit cradle to grave big government blah blah blah. I then remind him that in the state of Arizona the ticket issued for his failure to wear the seatbelt would be issued to *me* and he can walk if he prefers. I then hear a click and he is silent for a minute or two.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:09 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren't the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that. Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Sal There was a sad case 15 or 20 years ago in one of the suburban municipalities that surround the Phoenix area. The chief of a small police force was off duty, driving his own vehicle, and going to get a gallon of milk at 7 AM on a Sunday morning when he was involved, but not at fault, in a crippling auto accident. The police report, not written by the same force that employed him, mentioned he was not wearing his seatbelt. His insurance company never payed a dime. I checked into my own policy at the time and realized that not wearing the seatbelt could cost me a lot more than the price of a ticket. My agent told me it was considered on par with driving around a road closed sign. Coverage is voided. Some people just let it slip their mind on occassion. Methinks those who do it willfully would never take the time to determine their liability if a bad situation should arise. Everytime one of my brothers gets in my car he wants to argue that seatbelts are just a bullshit cradle to grave big government blah blah blah. I then remind him that in the state of Arizona the ticket issued for his failure to wear the seatbelt would be issued to *me* and he can walk if he prefers. I then hear a click and he is silent for a minute or two. My car doesn't move unless everybody has their seat belt on. Only pure morons who have never been in an accident would even consider not wearing one. Idiocy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: The end is near!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, both you and the ignorant Maharishi probably mean socialism. Communism involves the violent overthrowing of the ruling class by the working class. Maharishi and all his educated minions would be enemies to communism and among the first to be persecuted in a communist takeover. For some reason, the real difference seems to have alluded Winston Churchill. I would wager that Sir Winston Churchill knew the difference between alluded and eluded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: New Dad Clay Aiken: Yes, I'm Gay. Well, who cares? Obviously yentas like you. Yeah, I just can't wait to fix Clay up with one of my kids, or their friends... Sal Really? Cool. Are they all gay? Not that there is anything wrong with that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cover story of this week's People...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: If he's got a child, then that means he goes both ways. Aside from that, he's a great singer, a remarkable talent. The mother is a 50-year-old friend of his. There are ways of impregnating a women without having intercourse with her. Very true. The alternative is rather more complicated than doing it the old fashioned way. You mean with the lights off and your eyes closed John? ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife]Atkinson - accident update 2 Karma teaches all till R better
Why worry or discuess? Karma teaches all to learn by the ordeal or joy we refer to as life In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:18:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:09 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Non-incapacitating injuries? WTF! I was thinking about this. Aren't the injuries she sustained, which will probably cripple her for life, punishment enough for the fact that she was probably driving too fast and not wearing her seat belt? It seems so petty to give people traffic tickets after something like that. Of course it is, but how is that supposed to work, Rick? Break your neck and we drop all charges? Now there's a real deal... You know how hard Jefferson County has been working to get people to put their seatbelts on? It's not rocket science, and it's one of the easiest ways to avoid serious injury. Sal There was a sad case 15 or 20 years ago in one of the suburban municipalities that surround the Phoenix area. The chief of a small police force was off duty, driving his own vehicle, and going to get a gallon of milk at 7 AM on a Sunday morning when he was involved, but not at fault, in a crippling auto accident. The police report, not written by the same force that employed him, mentioned he was not wearing his seatbelt. His insurance company never payed a dime. I checked into my own policy at the time and realized that not wearing the seatbelt could cost me a lot more than the price of a ticket. My agent told me it was considered on par with driving around a road closed sign. Coverage is voided. Some people just let it slip their mind on occassion. Methinks those who do it willfully would never take the time to determine their liability if a bad situation should arise. Everytime one of my brothers gets in my car he wants to argue that seatbelts are just a bullshit cradle to grave big government blah blah blah. I then remind him that in the state of Arizona the ticket issued for his failure to wear the seatbelt would be issued to *me* and he can walk if he prefers. I then hear a click and he is silent for a minute or two. My car doesn't move unless everybody has their seat belt on. Only pure morons who have never been in an accident would even consider not wearing one. Idiocy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - Do we all here care if belted or NOT
Karma cures all now or next time In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:01:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Does anyone actually know for sure that she was not wearing a seatbelt? She was thrown from the car. You can still get injured wearing one. And how, pray, does Mr. Archer think it probable that she was driving too fast? How does he know? Was he there? Seems to me there's a lot of blame being heaped on this unfortunate woman without much knowledge of the facts. feste, please ! Since when did Mr. Archer bother with facts ? Facts is a word this fellow really, really dislikes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
That doesn't prove anything about how fast she was driving. There could have been many causes of the crash -- maybe there was an animal on the road and she was trying to avoid it. I have no idea, but I think it's wrong to pile on blame without knowing facts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Does anyone actually know for sure that she was not wearing a seatbelt? She was thrown from the car. You can still get injured wearing one. And how, pray, does Mr. Archer think it probable that she was driving too fast? How does he know? Was he there? Seems to me there's a lot of blame being heaped on this unfortunate woman without much knowledge of the facts. She was driving on a dirt road with curves in it. Skid marks indicated she went into a skid and lost control of the vehicle, which went off the road and rolled.
[FairfieldLife] Stop piling blame Karma does its works no BLAME required @ all$ Molly
4Let larma alone its blame less In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:37:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That doesn't prove anything about how fast she was driving. There could have been many causes of the crash -- maybe there was an animal on the road and she was trying to avoid it. I have no idea, but I think it's wrong to pile on blame without knowing facts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:21 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 Does anyone actually know for sure that she was not wearing a seatbelt? She was thrown from the car. You can still get injured wearing one. And how, pray, does Mr. Archer think it probable that she was driving too fast? How does he know? Was he there? Seems to me there's a lot of blame being heaped on this unfortunate woman without much knowledge of the facts. She was driving on a dirt road with curves in it. Skid marks indicated she went into a skid and lost control of the vehicle, which went off the road and rolled. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Molly Atkinson - accident update 1 That doesn't prove anything about how fast she was driving. There could have been many causes of the crash -- maybe there was an animal on the road and she was trying to avoid it. I have no idea, but I think it's wrong to pile on blame without knowing facts. You're right about that. it's clear that she wasn't wearing a seat belt, but it was sloppy of me to suggest that she was driving too fast. She may, as you said, have been trying to avoid an animal. Deer are common out there. I'm not trying to pile on blame. Molly is a friend of mine and I feel nothing but concern and compassion for her. Here's something I received by email During the prayer session last night at Divine Mother Church we received a message: Molly will have a full recovery although it may take several months for her to regain her ability to dance. All the prayers for her are enabling the divine beings to fill her body with more and more healing light and grace. She is not suffering. This accident was necessary for her evolution and because of unavoidable karma. It will advance her spiritual growth toward Enlightenment dramatically. We suggest prayers for the family as well. They will be they support team that will insure her complete recovery. When she can move she should see notable healers. She can use many healers, Connie, John of God (he will hasten much of the physical process when she starts to walk), others. This is not a tragedy at all. Do not give up on her. Divine Mother is holding her in grace will continue blessing her.
