Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rise of ISIS
It seems to me that the exact *same* astrological configuration is causing the
positive TM news that Lawson reported yesterday. And for that matter, ALL of
*both* the good news and bad news you or anyone else can cite.
You can't have it both ways, Chucko. If the placement of a bunch of big rocks
in the sky is the cause of one thing you choose to focus on, it's also the
cause of everything you choose *not* to focus on.
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:22 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Rise of ISIS
In astrological terms, the rise of ISIS is due to the transit of Saturn in
Scorpio, a sign representing death or the 8th house of the Cosmic Man or the
Kalachakra, the wheel of time. Saturn is particularly virulent in the sign
because it is owned by Mars, the enemy of Saturn.
Hence, we see ISIS flaunting a black flag and the rebels wearing black garbs,
the color of Saturn. They commit heinous crimes by decapitating their captives
to terrorize the world of their dark intentions, the establishment of a
caliphate in the Middle East and perhaps the world.
It will take about a year and and half to vanquish this menace in the world.
Why? Because this is the remaining time that Saturn will take to transit the
sign of Scorpio. When Saturn enters the next sign of Sagittarius, peace in the
world should be restored. #yiv3595235641 #yiv3595235641 --
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat sh!t
You didn't look hard enough:
Unicorn food - - Unicorns
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Not to mention this tidbit: Individual unicorns are quite docile in
temperament, and they make great pets for young children and the elderly,
provided that they are continuously fed with large quantities of their
favourite foods, such as bratwurst, anchovies, and live kittens. Also, it is a
well-known fact that unicorns love to impale naughty children with their
magical horns and suck out their intestines like so much spaghetti. They then
trample upon the bodies until they are nothing but bloody corpses, thus making
a prime example of them.Unicorns who have not been domesticated are glossy-eyed
rape machines who will rape you with their vile horn. Stay the fuck away from
them
Unicorn
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horse-like animal. They are acknowledged in the magical world as completely
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From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:15 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eat sh!t
I found it difficult to locate information on a Unicorn diet, but here is a
Unicorn Food
Pyramid:https://todaysunicornfact.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/unicorn-food-pyramid.jpg
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I would recommend this diet for MJ, I think the sugar might sweeten him up a
bit.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
You learn something new every day. It seems there's a current fad for children
to bake unicorn poop cookies. It's kinda gross and it's kinda amusing. Does
this one take your fancy?
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[FairfieldLife] Instant Homophobe Karma -- perfect!
[FairfieldLife] How cults react to criticism...with Twitter's help
The TMO should take note of this tactic and remember it the next time a big exposé comes out about them. Why rely just on Fairfield Life and Rick never bothering to do his job as a moderator? They, too can go to Twitter and *pay* for the right to trash anyone who criticizes them and spread slander about them. The Church of Scientology is paying Twitter to combat critics of “Going Clear” | | | | | | | | | | | The Church of Scientology is paying Twitter to combat cr...The Church of Scientology employed an unusual tactic — promoted tweets — to combat Internet outrage last night | | | | View on www.salon.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] More sources pile on to Going Clear
$cientology is on the ropes, and everybody's going to start piling on. Watch carefully, TB TMers...this is a vision of your future. This is what happens when the public is allowed to see the men behind the curtain. How Scientology controls John Travolta and Tom Cruise, according to ‘Going Clear’ | | | | | | | | | | | How Scientology controls John Travolta and Tom Cruise, ...The HBO documentary described the long history between celebrities and the controversial religion. | | | | View on www.washingtonpos... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | More Scientology shockers: 5 astonishing revelations from “Going Clear” left out of the HBO film | | | | | | | | | | | More Scientology shockers: 5 astonishing revelations fro...From the disappearance of David Miscavige's wife to the Church's smear campaign against journalist Paulette Cooper | | | | View on www.salon.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | 10 Things We Learned From Scientology Doc 'Going Clear' | | | | | | | | | | | 10 Things We Learned From Scientology Doc 'Going Clear'Now that the HBO doc on Scientology has aired, we break down a few of its more damning talking points | | | | View on www.rollingstone.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | How a filmmaker finally infiltrated Scientology for HBO's explosive documentary | | | | | | | | | | | How a filmmaker finally infiltrated Scientology for HBO'...We now know more about the church than ever before. | | | | View on uk.businessinsider... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Church of Scientology and a 'blackmail' file on John Travolta | | | | | | | | | | | Church of Scientology and a 'blackmail' file on John Tra...A documentary investigating Scientology and its secret California-based headquarters claims members are threatened and forced to play musical chairs to Queen's Boh... | | | | View on www.dailymail.co.uk | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's house?
Here.com (Nokia maps): http://tinyurl.com/pe6jh5w http://tinyurl.com/pe6jh5w
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
If you spent time there in Vlodrop (or in Seelisberg), you *really* owe it to
yourself to see HBO's Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief. It
will feel familiar to you.
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
Yep,
But these satelite photos are a bit dated. (The end if this video could be by
Leni Riefenstahl)
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[FairfieldLife] Well What's IS it about in the UK?
This morning the BBC says the upcoming election in the UK is about living standards.But my local paper says its about immigration. What's the deal in Scorpion land? http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073 Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign | | | | | | | | | | | Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaignUKIP, which has risen rapidly from ragtag band of right-wing dissidents to serious political force, is the main beneficiary of Britain’s unease about immigration. | | | | View on www.thestate.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
Yep, But these satelite photos are a bit dated. (The end if this video could be by Leni Riefenstahl) https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153114497608718 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153114497608718
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
With good cause... in scientific basis, some while ago I wrote Hagelin and others in DLF memos with the idea about having DLF people in New York work at giving TM to UN staff aid workers, the career professionals who go out to troubled spots in the world in support of peace action. Good to see development on that in support of those folks. JaiGuruYou! LEnglish5 writes: By the way, what makes you certain that 'tis a lost crusade? The fact that the DLF is negotiating with the United Nations concerning training UN workers to be TM teachers? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Ummm. You keep on posting and I keep on responding. I wasn't complaining. I'm just impressed by the energy you put into it. I'm posting positive stuff about TM here and on reddit. Keep it up, it's fun. And who told you I was banned from the entire website? Where did I say you were? Or do I have to be so completely specific about everything? I'm co-moderator of /r/transcendental afterall. By the way, what makes you certain that 'tis a lost crusade? The fact that the DLF is negotiating with the United Nations concerning training UN workers to be TM teachers? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : As I pointed out, the lead author (who also wrote the response in the Letters to the Editor), is now pretty good friends with Schneider and announced at the MUM speech he gave that he was doing his own research on TM. Coincidentally enough, the research the he will be doing is exactly of the kind that he says needs to be done to boost TM's rating, should it find that TM *does* have a positive effect on BP. You're devoting a lot of time to this lost crusade Lawson, have you been banned from Reddit again?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Highest rated HBO Doc not highest rated documentary. I saw Spike Lee's documentary back in 2006. Last year I installed HBO Go on my Android phone and a friend who had HBO logged onto it with his account so we could watch some stuff on my TV using Chrome cast. A lot of people did this with HBO Go. But probably due to one of the app updates the login got wiped out so it doesn't work anymore. Chromecast is now a buggy piece of shit anyway. It originally worked fairly well but the kids at Google had to mess it up. Some of us cut the cable because we didn't need to be paying $100+ a month for entertainment. I bet a lot of folks never even look at their cable bill often paid automatically. When they do many start questioning it. My sister and brother-in-law's Comcast bill was nearly $300 a month! And I would be they hardly ever even watched HBO during that time. My bitch isn't with the documentary. Let's be clear on that. It's about the most elitist of the cable networks and at that motion picture studio while we're at it. And Time-Warner probably has a paid staff cruising YouTube as I've already come across one YouTube posting of the doc that they already managed to get pulled. Can't blame them for that but it is a symptom of their problem. They have a very weird business model sorta like charging $2000 or more for TM. Now let's contrast that with Netflix which just announced uniform releases across all countries to reduce piracy and need to crack down on VPNs. This is how you do things rather than turn potential customers waving money into thieves. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/netflix-plans-fix-one-biggest-problems-business-151537691.html Netflix gets it. On 03/31/2015 06:43 PM, geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Highest rated Documentary in 9 years . Plenty of people saw it Bhairitu and plenty more will: 'Going Clear' Was The Most-Watched HBO Doc In 9 Years http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html image http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html 'Going Clear' Was The Most-Watched HBO Doc In 9 ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html Plenty of America found out what it's like to be an operating thetan on Sunday by tuning in to HBO's premiere of the Scientology documentary, Going Cl... View on www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html Preview by Yahoo Unfortunately HBO didn't make it available on their YouTube channel and I'm sure no one if they still have cable will want to sign up to HBO if they don't have it. And in the good ol' US if you just have basic cable you can't have HBO unless you sign up for the cable network tier too which usually adds 40-50 dollars to the bill. Plus HBO is 15-20 dollars a month. Nor in the US risk a visit from the FBI if they download it from some questionable website. Maybe it'll get released to Redbox someday but the Scientologists will probably go to those kiosks, rent it out and not return it so you can't rent it. I'm sure it will be available on HBO Now when it launches next month but that will only be viewable if you have an Apple TV box until July.
[FairfieldLife] Meet the CC Kids from $cientology
I shit you not, that's really their name. I warn you the creep factor is mega high. As the author says at the end: Have fun trying to sleep tonight. BYEEE. http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/did-you-know-the-church-of-scientology-started-a-kids-pop-group.php http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/did-you-know-the-church-of-scientology-started-a-kids-pop-group.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Highest rated Documentary in 9 years . Plenty of people saw it Bhairitu and plenty more will: 'Going Clear' Was The Most-Watched HBO Doc In 9 Years http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html 'Going Clear' Was The Most-Watched HBO Doc In 9 ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html Plenty of America found out what it's like to be an operating thetan on Sunday by tuning in to HBO's premiere of the Scientology documentary, Going Cl... View on www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/going-clear-ratings_n_6979596.html Preview by Yahoo Unfortunately HBO didn't make it available on their YouTube channel and I'm sure no one if they still have cable will want to sign up to HBO if they don't have it. And in the good ol' US if you just have basic cable you can't have HBO unless you sign up for the cable network tier too which usually adds 40-50 dollars to the bill. Plus HBO is 15-20 dollars a month. Nor in the US risk a visit from the FBI if they download it from some questionable website. Maybe it'll get released to Redbox someday but the Scientologists will probably go to those kiosks, rent it out and not return it so you can't rent it. I'm sure it will be available on HBO Now when it launches next month but that will only be viewable if you have an Apple TV box until July.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Geesh MJ, he's comedic actor. What do you want him to sound like? Some executive in a suit? As for being rich I'm sure you remember Warren Buffet's comment about his secretary paying a higher tax rate than he does and how wrong that is. He was hinting that the public should do something about that. But the public is as apathetic as a bag of rocks. Bill Gates father sponsored an initiative in Washington state for a higher tax rate on the rich. It got voted down by the stupid poor who apparently believe they will someday be rich themselves as soon as they win the lottery. On 03/31/2015 06:54 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: except that he makes people who speak against the status quo look like idiots since he is one himself, not to mention the hypocrisy of his yipping like a pack of yapping Chihuahuas about the rich when he is himself. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Does he really stump that much for the TMO? In fact it almost looks like he has a picture of Yogananda by his bed not MMY. Though maybe it's just a relative or girlfriend (too small to see for sure). Most of the time he's stumping for the general public against the status quo. Good on him for that. On 03/31/2015 06:14 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation (which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing. *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:s3raph...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation
(which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing.
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane
into a mountain?
Re Fox manipulation of the audience:
Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see
that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags -
manipulate their consumers.
The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular
organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that
their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it
isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New
Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are
balanced out.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
I watched the entire video. Brandpointed out the Fox manipulation of the
audience. IOW, status quogood, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when
doescapitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch ofthugs who
run big companies and screw the public. Liberaldemocracy? My ass.
On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@...wrote :
That's it? That's all yougot out of this video? Blame fox?
I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand'snarcissism. His manic presentation
does no one anyfavours.
Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the ideathat capitalism (aka liberal
democracy) is turningpeople into crackpots who willingly terrorize andmurder
innocent people, including children? Ask yourfriends and neighbours what they
think of the outrage.They'll react with disgust. Why should they react
likethat? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitzcurse? Because they get
on with their lives and engagewith the society around them and try and make use
ofthe opportunities on offer to do something positivefor themselves and their
families.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,s3raphita@... wrote :
The loony Brand blames Fox News for thetragedy . .
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
except that he makes people who speak against the status quo look like idiots
since he is one himself, not to mention the hypocrisy of his yipping like a
pack of yapping Chihuahuas about the rich when he is himself.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane
into a mountain?
Does he really stump that much for the TMO? In fact it almost looks like
he has a picture of Yogananda by his bed not MMY. Though maybe it's just a
relative or girlfriend (too small to see for sure). Most of the time he's
stumping for the general public against the status quo. Good on him for that.
On 03/31/2015 06:14 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation
(which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing.
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane
into a mountain?
Re Fox manipulation of the audience:
Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you
see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers,
mags - manipulate their consumers.
The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular
organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that
their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it
isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New
Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are
balanced out.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the
audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since
when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of
thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass.
On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox?
I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic
presentation does no one any favours.
Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal
democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder
innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they
think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like
that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on
with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use
of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and
their families.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
If you lied for all those years who would believe anything you have to say now? I've seen him project the double, as described in the Castaneda books. One of him was standing a few feet in front of me and another one was up on top of the mountain we were in front of, waving. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world, as well as the him posing for an artist bust in clay. Monumental (literally) ego of the leader leads to monuments made to said leader: check Large real estate holdings become critically important as cult membership dwindles: check We, and we alone, are the only salvation for planet Earth: check If planet Earth is not saved, it's YOUR fault: check Those who don't believe as we do are categorized as Wogs or non-meditators: check Those who express doubts or question the fundamentals are excommunicated: check I could go of course, but the point is that this can happen to anyone. It happens slowly, over time. Imagine if in TM we were told in our intro lecture that those who want to delve deeper into the practice will learn to fly', walk through walls, etc. Imagine if in TM we were told in our intro lecture that our mantras literally are the seed form names of vedic gods and that when completed (advanced techniques) we would literally be saying: Most glorious Saraswati, I Bow Down To You Again and Again. (Saraswati used here as an example.) Nope, we learned how to soft sell it in the intro lecture, knowing full well that we are lying through our teeth. Those who bring new recruits into $cientology learn to do the same.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Does he really stump that much for the TMO? In fact it almost looks like he has a picture of Yogananda by his bed not MMY. Though maybe it's just a relative or girlfriend (too small to see for sure). Most of the time he's stumping for the general public against the status quo. Good on him for that. On 03/31/2015 06:14 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation (which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing. *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
I very much want to watch it with my 15 year old daughter and her mother. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear I'll just say it -- any long-term current or former member of the TM movement or any other large spiritual organization who does not track down and watch all two hours of the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief is a COWARD. This film should be required viewing for anyone on a spiritual path, to teach them about the perils of following a spiritual path. Here are a few random notes I scribbled down while watching it myself: * Off-camera voice (probably Alex Gibney, director): Scientology is such a subject of fascination for people...how did you get engaged in the story? Lawrence Wright (author of the book the HBO film is based on): Well, I've always been interested in religions, and why people believe one idea rather than another. I've studied Jonestown and radical Islam, and they're oftentimes good-hearted people, idealistic, but full of a kind of crushing certainty that eliminates doubt. You know, my goal wasn't to write an expose -- it was simply to understand Scientology, trying to understand what people get out of it. You know, why did they go into it in the first place? I was interested in intelligent and skeptical people who were drawn into a belief system and wind up acting on those beliefs in ways they never thought they would. * Onscreen photo of the actual legal contract: SEA ORGANIZATION Contract of Employment I, .. DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN on this PLANET AND THE UNIVERSE and, fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions of this group and pledge to abide by them. THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE SEA ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEXT BILLION YEARS. (As per Flag Order 232) Date ... Signed ... Date ... Witness .. Date ... Witness .. * Narrator: Hubbard was a prolific writer of pulp fiction, churning out stories for a penny a word. ... He found his true metier in science fiction. A lot of what Scientology is, he had previous written about in the form of his science fiction. He had the ability to fabricate these amazing tales and he transported these imaginary stories into his theology. * Narrator: After Pearl Harbor, Hubbard took command of a sub chaser. But he was still a man prone to invention. He would write that he sunk two Japanese subs. But in fact, just off the coast of Oregon, he opened fire on what turned out to be a log, and dropped most of his depth charges on underwater magnetic rocks. When he accidentally shelled a Mexican island, he was relieved of his command. * Spoken by Hubbard's ex-wife Sarah, whom the Church of Scientology denies the very existence of: We were surrounded by sycophants. He began to believe that he was a savior and a hero, that he really was this God figure. He was absolutely convinced that he had the cure for the psychological ills of mankind, and that the only reason it wasn't being promulgated far and wide was that the medical profession had a vested interest in keeping people sick. I think he was afraid that some psychiatrist would pop him into an institution. He degenerated into a really paranoid, terrifying person. Narrator: Sarah threatened to leave Hubbard unless he got psychiatric help. He responded by kidnapping their baby, and taking her to Cuba. He was incapable of her, so he put her in the charge of a mother and daughter who were both mentally retarded, and they apparently kept her in some kind of cage. Sarah: He called me and told me that he had killed her. He said that he had cut her into little pieces and dropped the pieces in a river, and it was my fault. Then he'd call me back and tell me she was still alive. And this went on, and on, and on. * [ Here's a section that should sound familiar to TMers ] Narrator: When Dianetics turned out to be a passing fad like the hula hoop, Hubbard repackaged Dianetics into a religion he called Scientology.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
You ever been to Vlodrop? The town I mean, not marshy's palace.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
If you spent time there in Vlodrop (or in Seelisberg), you *really* owe it
to yourself to see HBO's Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief.
It will feel familiar to you.
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
Yep,
But these satelite photos are a bit dated. (The end if this video could be by
Leni Riefenstahl)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
I think it's a very well-done documentary, Michael. More, I think it's a film that will strike a strong resonance for anyone in ANY spiritual trip who got into that trip to the level that Scientologists have to get into to Go Clear. The parts of the film I found most touching were at the end, when some of the former Scientologists talk about why they came out and revealed their true stories, and what they felt as they went through this coming out. I can only *hope* that many former TM teachers can watch those sections -- with people admitting that they'd looked into the faces of people they cared about or into a TV camera lens and LIED to them, believing that by mouthing this lie they were protecting the Church -- and empathize. I certainly can. I said things that I *had* to have known were lies and presented them as truth. In my opinion any TM teacher who knows what the words to the puja means but then has said to a reporter or to an intro lecture audience 'No, TM is not religious' has done this. We managed to push the truth of things so far out of our conscious attention that we managed to convince ourselves that the lies we mouthed *were* truth. I empathize with the sense of SHAME that many of the people who contributed to this film feel at having abandoned our own critical faculties for so long. What could we have been *thinking* to have locked ourselves away like that in a prison of belief -- and for years? From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear I very much want to watch it with my 15 year old daughter and her mother. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear I'll just say it -- any long-term current or former member of the TM movement or any other large spiritual organization who does not track down and watch all two hours of the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief is a COWARD. This film should be required viewing for anyone on a spiritual path, to teach them about the perils of following a spiritual path. Here are a few random notes I scribbled down while watching it myself: * Off-camera voice (probably Alex Gibney, director): Scientology is such a subject of fascination for people...how did you get engaged in the story? Lawrence Wright (author of the book the HBO film is based on): Well, I've always been interested in religions, and why people believe one idea rather than another. I've studied Jonestown and radical Islam, and they're oftentimes good-hearted people, idealistic, but full of a kind of crushing certainty that eliminates doubt. You know, my goal wasn't to write an expose -- it was simply to understand Scientology, trying to understand what people get out of it. You know, why did they go into it in the first place? I was interested in intelligent and skeptical people who were drawn into a belief system and wind up acting on those beliefs in ways they never thought they would. * Onscreen photo of the actual legal contract: SEA ORGANIZATION Contract of Employment I, .. DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN on this PLANET AND THE UNIVERSE and, fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions of this group and pledge to abide by them. THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE SEA ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEXT BILLION YEARS. (As per Flag Order 232) Date ... Signed ... Date ... Witness .. Date ... Witness .. * Narrator: Hubbard was a prolific writer of pulp fiction, churning out stories for a penny a word. ... He found his true metier in science fiction. A lot of what Scientology is, he had previous written about in the form of his science fiction. He had the ability to fabricate these amazing tales and he transported these imaginary stories into his theology. * Narrator: After Pearl Harbor, Hubbard took command of a sub chaser. But he was still a man prone to invention. He would write that he sunk two Japanese subs. But in fact, just off the coast of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Instant Homophobe Karma -- perfect!
you know more importantly stores, all over the country, all placing signs in
their windows effectively saying they appreciate *everybody's* business.
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To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Instant Homophobe Karma -- perfect!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's house?
No no no, it's supposed to be called a *compound*.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's house?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
Me? No. I don't actually have any interest in going there.
In my reply to aryavazhi I was referencing the general vibe about being around
Maharishi in a place like Seelisberg or Vlodrop, not the vibe of the physical
places. Weird shit goes down when cultists are in close proximity to the leader
of their cult. The Scientology weird shit reminded me of related-but-different
weird shit I experienced when around Maharishi.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
You ever been to Vlodrop? The town I mean, not marshy's palace.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
If you spent time there in Vlodrop (or in Seelisberg), you *really* owe it
to yourself to see HBO's Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief.
It will feel familiar to you.
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
Yep,
But these satelite photos are a bit dated. (The end if this video could be by
Leni Riefenstahl)
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153114497608718
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
You tried to turn a simple relaxation technique into a cult religion with Fred Lenz as a personal golden avatar. Gawd! It took you 34 years to come out of the trance-induction state. After spending 15 years posting to the internet what is it exactly that you still don't understand? JOINING A CULT IS DUMB. Just admit it was stupid and move on. If you need to, go visit a cult-exit counselor or a shrink. Just get some help. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I'll just say it -- any long-term current or former member of the TM movement or any other large spiritual organization who does not track down and watch all two hours of the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief is a COWARD. This film should be required viewing for anyone on a spiritual path, to teach them about the perils of following a spiritual path. People will judge you one way or another. I figured people would judge me as really stupid. But then I WAS really stupid. I was part of this for thirty years before I spoke out. I felt deeply ashamed. Why didn't I do this earlier? Why didn't I look earlier?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Thanks for continuing the conversation, Geeze. I think it's an important film -- and one that doesn't just apply to Scientology but to the entire range of spiritual teaching. The most important thing that Wright (no relation) and the filmmakers have said in interviews they wanted to get across in this film *worked* for me. That is, that these people we see onscreen who fell for this Scientology brainwashing routine may appear to us non-Scientologists as crazy, but they were NOT crazy beforehand. They were *made* to be this crazy, systematically. And it could happen to us, too. It *did* happen to me. I've seen variants of this same brainwashing routine in several different spiritual trips. To a lesser degree than Scientology, admittedly, but still the same routines were there, and used for the same purposes. I think there needs to be more discussion of this dark side of the spiritual path among those ostensibly walking it. I hope that this film gains the viewership and the discussion it deserves. From: geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear Excellent synopsis Barry, thanks!Here's a section of an interview with Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright with a few added points that should give long time TMO folk (or ANY cult member) pause. Particularly note the importance of amassing real estate holdings:The rally where David Miscavige announces L. Ron Hubbard’s death is particularly amazing. Gibney: He never uses the word death, because of course it’s not a death! LRH has left his body — he no longer needs his body.The crowd’s response is remarkable as well: They start off nervously laughing, and then end up cheering, not even recognizing the absurdity of what Miscavige is saying. Gibney: One of the reasons I structured the film the way I did is to show that Scientology is evolutionary and immersive. If you’d walked in out of the street and saw that speech without having gone through the process, of course you’d react cynically. So we waited until midway through the film to show that footage to give viewers a sense of how it might feel; by then, you have to become immersed, and when you do, things change for you.The movie touches on it briefly, but what is the principle behind Scientology’s drive to amass real estate holdings, not only in the U.S., but also overseas? Wright: The Scientology ideal is to “clear” the planet, which means bring awareness to people all over the world. Their strategy, in part, is to create these extraordinary buildings [in historic areas] that have been elaborately refurbished inside. They’ve done this in Times Square, Hollywood, and Music Row [in Nashville], and the same thinking applies in Europe and even in Israel. There was a scandal in Israel several years ago where the church had acquired a historic building in Jaffa [that burned in a suspected case of arson]. Distilling the book into a two-hour film naturally resulted in a lot of material being excised. What sections did you most regret having to leave out? Wright: I wish we’d been able to explore the role of children in the Church a little more deeply, especially those who join the Sea Org when they’re really young and sign away their lifetime, or however many lifetimes fit in a billion years. They lose their education, they are impoverished and when the time comes later in life when they decide they’ve had enough and are going to walk away, they have to leave their families behind. That’s the fate of those children if they decide they’ve made a mistake. No child should be allowed to make a fateful decision like that. In talking to some of these children, it’s very clear to me that the Church has been in violation of child labor laws. Where’s the enforcement? I find that very shocking, and I wish we had had a little more room to explore some of those stories. It’s not as if some of the celebrities don’t know about it, because there are pages that attend to Tom Cruise and so on. Does it ever occur to Tom Cruise, “Why isn’t this child in school? Where are his parents?”In addition to being an exposé into Scientology, Going Clear is also an account of the past thirty years of Hollywood history. As the film makes apparent, so many contemporary movie stars like Cruise and Travolta, as well as filmmakers like Paul Haggis, emerged from within the city’s Scientology community. Gibney: I think what Scientology discovered is that the real religion of America is celebrity. If they could hitch their wagon to that star, things would turn out a lot better for them. They had a kind of recruiting system, particularly through [stage director and acting teacher] Milton Katselas’s acting class. Actors, often by professional need, are sometimes very needy and insecure, because they have to be open. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Instant Homophobe Karma -- perfect!
No, Mike, the signs say they appreciate anybody's business since not everyone has any money to spend anymore. ;-) http://www.nbcnews.com/business/personal-finance/half-u-s-households-struggle-save-even-few-cents-n332486 On 03/31/2015 07:47 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: you know more importantly stores, all over the country, all placing signs in their windows effectively saying they appreciate *everybody's* business. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:22 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Instant Homophobe Karma -- perfect! https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11070101_10153237422029255_5122461556016872785_o.png
Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Unfortunately HBO didn't make it available on their YouTube channel and I'm sure no one if they still have cable will want to sign up to HBO if they don't have it. And in the good ol' US if you just have basic cable you can't have HBO unless you sign up for the cable network tier too which usually adds 40-50 dollars to the bill. Plus HBO is 15-20 dollars a month. Nor in the US risk a visit from the FBI if they download it from some questionable website. Maybe it'll get released to Redbox someday but the Scientologists will probably go to those kiosks, rent it out and not return it so you can't rent it. I'm sure it will be available on HBO Now when it launches next month but that will only be viewable if you have an Apple TV box until July. Looks like it has you really wound up. A local talk radio host has been interviewing folks involved with the documentary. I was fascinated with the organization back in the 1960s but not enough to join it. I got the free Dianetics book which was pretty unreadable and read a good expose on Scientology in 1972. Knew an artist who was involved with Hubbard from the beginning of Dianetics. Then there is the girlfriend who was involved with it and was excommunicated and she gave me a set of plastic notebooks with the instructions for the auditing. I threw those out when I moved from Seattle. I never saw the TMO as a cult when I first got involved. That seemed to come later after some of the teachers thought they were king shit after returning from the AE courses. They never bothered me though but did some of the other teachers. I just walked away and no one came after me as they apparently do with Scientology and some other cults. Too bad HBO doesn't have it on their YouTube channel. Maybe FFL is a cult too. ;-) On 03/31/2015 07:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */I think it's a very well-done documentary, Michael. More, I think it's a film that will strike a strong resonance for anyone in ANY spiritual trip who got into that trip to the level that Scientologists have to get into to Go Clear. /* */ /* */The parts of the film I found most touching were at the end, when some of the former Scientologists talk about why they came out and revealed their true stories, and what they felt as they went through this coming out. /* */ /* */I can only *hope* that many former TM teachers can watch those sections -- with people admitting that they'd looked into the faces of people they cared about or into a TV camera lens and LIED to them, believing that by mouthing this lie they were protecting the Church -- and empathize. I certainly can. I said things that I *had* to have known were lies and presented them as truth. In my opinion any TM teacher who knows what the words to the puja means but then has said to a reporter or to an intro lecture audience 'No, TM is not religious' has done this. We managed to push the truth of things so far out of our conscious attention that we managed to convince ourselves that the lies we mouthed *were* truth. I empathize with the sense of SHAME that many of the people who contributed to this film feel at having abandoned our own critical faculties for so long. What could we have been *thinking* to have locked ourselves away like that in a prison of belief -- and for years? /* *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear I very much want to watch it with my 15 year old daughter and her mother. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:25 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear */I'll just say it -- any long-term current or former member of the TM movement or any other large spiritual organization who does not track down and watch all two hours of the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief is a COWARD. This film should be required viewing for anyone on a spiritual path, to teach them about the perils of following a spiritual path. Here are a few random notes I scribbled down while watching it myself:/** * Off-camera voice (probably Alex Gibney, director): Scientology is such a subject of fascination for people...how did you get engaged in the story? Lawrence Wright (author of the book the HBO film is based on): Well, I've always been interested in religions, and why people believe one idea rather than another. I've
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 03/31/2015 10:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : This morning the BBC says the upcoming election in the UK is about living standards. But my local paper says its about immigration. What's the deal in Scorpion land? Apparently there's some sort of election coming up that politicians and the media are all excited about but everyone else is bored shitless with, and the campaigning only started yesterday. But the main focus can be about whatever you want it to be about. Immigration is always going to be a problem as long as we are members of the EU but leaving it would be worse for the economy. Living standards are OK if you are in the right social group that gets elected. The Tories hate the poor and give tax cuts to the rich funded by cuts to social security. The Labour party are traditionally more oriented to helping the workers with low VAT and taxing the rich more to pay for help to the poorest but I think they've forgotten about that and all seem obsessed with cutting a budget deficit caused by the banking crisis that wouldn't exist if the 6 richest companies paid their business tax for one year. No one mentions that though... I think it's crisis capitalism, take a social problem and make it worse then claim the only cure is privatisation and cuts to public services. It's a tried and tested formula. We don;t get the chance to vote on things that really matter like banking regulation or the new transatlantic trade agreement that will hand control of environmental and employment law to lawyers working on the behalf of multinational companies. As if we haven't had our hard won workers right's stamped on by our current hideous establishment cronies. We are already in the hands of vast corporations and there is less we can do about it every year. I think the modern world is doomed. You won't read that in a newspaper though, they'll be concentrating on the largely irrelevant crap that politicians say while the interesting stuff goes on in the background. So I'm not sure if it matters who wins. I think Europeans have been conditioned over centuries to accept being serfs so you don't care what the ruling class does. Those who didn't like seemed to escape to this country. That's why we want to fry the rich and politicians. I walked past Buckingham palace today and there was a huge crowd hoping to catch a glimpse of Her Maj as she waved from her balcony. Meanwhile her staff at one of her many other vast homes have gone on strike for more pay. Apparently the tight-fisted cow doesn't even pay the nationally accepted living wage! Unbelievable what people will put up with and still TV shows like Downton Abbey are astoundingly popular even though it only features the 1% with all the money and their trials and tribulations while everyone else worked their fingers to the bone to provide them with enough money for their mansions in the first place. People love all that master/servant stuff, I think it says something highly disturbing about our national psyche. I'm just glad I'm immune to it. Here's a good breakdown on this: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-feudalism.html http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-feudalism.html That's about the size of it. http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073 http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073 Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign UKIP, which has risen rapidly from ragtag band of right-wing dissidents to serious political force, is the main beneficiary of Britain’s unease about immigration. View on www.thestate.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
And you Scorpions don't even mind the ruling elite spending a few quid to
re-inter the bones of a former monarch who didn't avert the danger before it
arose - at least you have a sense of history!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
On 03/31/2015 10:31 AM, salyavin808wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,mjackson74@... wrote :
This morning the BBCsays the upcoming election in the UK is about
livingstandards.But my localpaper says its about immigration. What's the deal
inScorpion land?
Apparentlythere's some sort of election coming up thatpoliticians and the media
are all excited aboutbut everyone else is bored shitless with, and
thecampaigning only started yesterday.
Butthe main focus can be about whatever you want itto be about. Immigration is
always going to be aproblem as long as we are members of the EU butleaving it
would be worse for the economy.Livingstandards are OK if you are in the right
socialgroup that gets elected. The Tories hate the poorand give tax cuts to the
rich funded by cuts tosocial security. The Labour party aretraditionally more
oriented to helping the workerswith low VAT and taxing the rich more to pay
forhelp to the poorest but I think they've forgottenabout that and all seem
obsessed with cutting abudget deficit caused by the banking crisis thatwouldn't
exist if the 6 richest companies paidtheir business tax for one year. No one
mentionsthat though...
Ithink it's crisis capitalism, take a socialproblem and make it worse then
claim the only cureis privatisation and cuts to public services. It'sa tried
and tested formula. We don;t get thechance to vote on things that really matter
likebanking regulation or the new transatlantic tradeagreement that will hand
control of environmentaland employment law to lawyers working on thebehalf of
multinational companies. As if wehaven't had our hard won workers right's
stampedon by our current hideous establishment cronies.
Weare already in the hands of vast corporations andthere is less we can do
about it every year. Ithink the modern world is doomed. You won't readthat in a
newspaper though, they'll beconcentrating on the largely irrelevant crap
thatpoliticians say while the interesting stuff goeson in the background. So
I'm not sure if itmatters who wins.
I think Europeans have been conditioned over centuries to acceptbeing serfs
so you don't care what the ruling class does. Thosewho didn't like seemed to
escape to this country. That's why wewant to fry the rich and politicians.
I walked past Buckingham palace today and there was a huge crowd hoping to
catch a glimpse of Her Maj as she waved from her balcony. Meanwhile her staff
at one of her many other vast homes have gone on strike for more pay.
Apparently the tight-fisted cow doesn't even pay the nationally accepted living
wage!
Unbelievable what people will put up with and still TV shows like Downton Abbey
are astoundingly popular even though it only features the 1% with all the money
and their trials and tribulations while everyone else worked their fingers to
the bone to provide them with enough money for their mansions in the first
place. People love all that master/servant stuff, I think it says something
highly disturbing about our national psyche. I'm just glad I'm immune to it.
Here's a good breakdown onthis:
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-feudalism.html
That's about the size of it.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Great story about the Playboy mansion in L.A.
Addressing the important issues. The question is, Did you enjoy? LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : This story, as passed along by my fave Paris blogger Messy Nessy Chic, could very well be either an urban legend or an intentional put-on by the staff at Playboy, or both. But if it's TRUE...what a portrait of privileged debauchery it paints. If such tunnels ever existed -- or even the plans for them -- it's proof that you don't have to be a spiritual teacher to attain this level of elitism and entitlement. :-) The Secret Playboy Mansion Tunnels that led to the Hollywood Homes of Celebrity Casanovas http://www.messynessychic.com/2015/03/31/the-secret-playboy-mansion-tunnels-that-led-to-the-hollywoods-homes-of-celebrity-casanovas/ http://www.messynessychic.com/2015/03/31/the-secret-playboy-mansion-tunnels-that-led-to-the-hollywoods-homes-of-celebrity-casanovas/ The Secret Playboy Mansion Tunnels that led to the Holly... http://www.messynessychic.com/2015/03/31/the-secret-playboy-mansion-tunnels-that-led-to-the-hollywoods-homes-of-celebrity-casanovas/ The editorial staff at Playboy.com recently revealed that they have discovered a bunch of dusty old blueprints, plans and photographs in an unfinished base View on www.messynessychi... http://www.messynessychic.com/2015/03/31/the-secret-playboy-mansion-tunnels-that-led-to-the-hollywoods-homes-of-celebrity-casanovas/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Excellent, it's a must see I reckon. Especially the billion year contract, does that include a dental plan I wonder? I almost wish I joined when I was interested after reading Dianetics, trouble is I might now be a CO$ TB who is forbidden to read or watch negative stuff about the church. Then again, when it got to Xenu and all that crap it would have had the same effect on me that Marshy's unified field ideas did when I learnt TM. I'd see through it and keep my distance. Wouldn't I? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I'll just say it -- any long-term current or former member of the TM movement or any other large spiritual organization who does not track down and watch all two hours of the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief is a COWARD. This film should be required viewing for anyone on a spiritual path, to teach them about the perils of following a spiritual path. Here are a few random notes I scribbled down while watching it myself: * Off-camera voice (probably Alex Gibney, director): Scientology is such a subject of fascination for people...how did you get engaged in the story? Lawrence Wright (author of the book the HBO film is based on): Well, I've always been interested in religions, and why people believe one idea rather than another. I've studied Jonestown and radical Islam, and they're oftentimes good-hearted people, idealistic, but full of a kind of crushing certainty that eliminates doubt. You know, my goal wasn't to write an expose -- it was simply to understand Scientology, trying to understand what people get out of it. You know, why did they go into it in the first place? I was interested in intelligent and skeptical people who were drawn into a belief system and wind up acting on those beliefs in ways they never thought they would. * Onscreen photo of the actual legal contract: SEA ORGANIZATION Contract of Employment I, .. DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN on this PLANET AND THE UNIVERSE and, fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions of this group and pledge to abide by them. THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE SEA ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEXT BILLION YEARS. (As per Flag Order 232) Date ... Signed ... Date ... Witness .. Date ... Witness .. * Narrator: Hubbard was a prolific writer of pulp fiction, churning out stories for a penny a word. ... He found his true metier in science fiction. A lot of what Scientology is, he had previous written about in the form of his science fiction. He had the ability to fabricate these amazing tales and he transported these imaginary stories into his theology. * Narrator: After Pearl Harbor, Hubbard took command of a sub chaser. But he was still a man prone to invention. He would write that he sunk two Japanese subs. But in fact, just off the coast of Oregon, he opened fire on what turned out to be a log, and dropped most of his depth charges on underwater magnetic rocks. When he accidentally shelled a Mexican island, he was relieved of his command. * Spoken by Hubbard's ex-wife Sarah, whom the Church of Scientology denies the very existence of: We were surrounded by sycophants. He began to believe that he was a savior and a hero, that he really was this God figure. He was absolutely convinced that he had the cure for the psychological ills of mankind, and that the only reason it wasn't being promulgated far and wide was that the medical profession had a vested interest in keeping people sick. I think he was afraid that some psychiatrist would pop him into an institution. He degenerated into a really paranoid, terrifying person. Narrator: Sarah threatened to leave Hubbard unless he got psychiatric help. He responded by kidnapping their baby, and taking her to Cuba. He was incapable of her, so he put her in the charge of a mother and daughter who were both mentally retarded, and they apparently kept her in some kind of cage. Sarah: He called me and told me that he had killed her. He said that he had cut her into little pieces and dropped the pieces in a river, and it was my fault. Then he'd call me back and tell me she was still alive. And this went on, and on, and on.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Everyone knows that the two Barrys have been involved in cults for most of their adult lives. So, it's kind of amusing to read their confessions now. Everyone knows that they believe in the Self - the cosmic source of power and life force. They believe that all humans have a Soul which is their true identity, a non-material power capable of unlimited energy, creativity and intelligence. Apparently they are True Believers - Scientologists. It's just the church's *tactics* they are opposed to. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Looks like it has you really wound up. On 03/31/2015 07:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think it's a very well-done documentary, Michael. More, I think it's a film that will strike a strong resonance for anyone in ANY spiritual trip who got into that trip to the level that Scientologists have to get into to Go Clear. The parts of the film I found most touching were at the end, when some of the former Scientologists talk about why they came out and revealed their true stories, and what they felt as they went through this coming out. I can only *hope* that many former TM teachers can watch those sections -- with people admitting that they'd looked into the faces of people they cared about or into a TV camera lens and LIED to them, believing that by mouthing this lie they were protecting the Church -- and empathize. I certainly can. I said things that I *had* to have known were lies and presented them as truth. In my opinion any TM teacher who knows what the words to the puja means but then has said to a reporter or to an intro lecture audience 'No, TM is not religious' has done this. We managed to push the truth of things so far out of our conscious attention that we managed to convince ourselves that the lies we mouthed *were* truth. I empathize with the sense of SHAME that many of the people who contributed to this film feel at having abandoned our own critical faculties for so long. What could we have been *thinking* to have locked ourselves away like that in a prison of belief -- and for years?
Fwd: [FairfieldLife] India better understood is India in this light
-Original Message- From: Mousumi Dey mousumide...@gmail.com To: William Leed wle...@aol.com Sent: Tue, Mar 31, 2015 10:18 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] India Yes, all of this is India but then India is a land of compromise, consideration and a lot of love too which they have not highlighted. Each state has it's own language (including different scripts), customs and traditions - separately they are like islands but for better or for worse all the 29 states are married to each other and stay together for greater good - a unique country. The reason I believe is the underlying current of the teachings of the Vedas and Sanskrit which binds this multicultural multiethnic society into a harmonious conglomerate. A lot of countries can still learn from India. Mousumi --- Mousumi Dey, PA-C, MPAS, MBBS, MHA Digestive Associates 2031 North McDaniel Street North Las Vegas, NV (702) 633-0207 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:33 AM, William Leedwle...@aol.com wrote: I learned some from this news by the BBC -Original Message- From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Mar 30, 2015 7:43 am Subject: [FairfieldLife] India # 10 is the most interesting and telling about the Land of the Veda. 10 things you might not know about India 10 things you might not know about India As Rajini Vaidyanathan departs India after two years, she reflects on some surprising things she learned. View onwww.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
On 03/31/2015 10:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This morning the BBC says the upcoming election in the UK is about living standards. But my local paper says its about immigration. What's the deal in Scorpion land? Apparently there's some sort of election coming up that politicians and the media are all excited about but everyone else is bored shitless with, and the campaigning only started yesterday. But the main focus can be about whatever you want it to be about. Immigration is always going to be a problem as long as we are members of the EU but leaving it would be worse for the economy. Living standards are OK if you are in the right social group that gets elected. The Tories hate the poor and give tax cuts to the rich funded by cuts to social security. The Labour party are traditionally more oriented to helping the workers with low VAT and taxing the rich more to pay for help to the poorest but I think they've forgotten about that and all seem obsessed with cutting a budget deficit caused by the banking crisis that wouldn't exist if the 6 richest companies paid their business tax for one year. No one mentions that though... I think it's crisis capitalism, take a social problem and make it worse then claim the only cure is privatisation and cuts to public services. It's a tried and tested formula. We don;t get the chance to vote on things that really matter like banking regulation or the new transatlantic trade agreement that will hand control of environmental and employment law to lawyers working on the behalf of multinational companies. As if we haven't had our hard won workers right's stamped on by our current hideous establishment cronies. We are already in the hands of vast corporations and there is less we can do about it every year. I think the modern world is doomed. You won't read that in a newspaper though, they'll be concentrating on the largely irrelevant crap that politicians say while the interesting stuff goes on in the background. So I'm not sure if it matters who wins. I think Europeans have been conditioned over centuries to accept being serfs so you don't care what the ruling class does. Those who didn't like seemed to escape to this country. That's why we want to fry the rich and politicians. Here's a good breakdown on this: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-feudalism.html http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073 Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html image http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html UKIP, which has risen rapidly from ragtag band of right-wing dissidents to serious political force, is the main beneficiary of Britain’s unease about immigration. View on www.thestate.com http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This morning the BBC says the upcoming election in the UK is about living standards. But my local paper says its about immigration. What's the deal in Scorpion land? Apparently there's some sort of election coming up that politicians and the media are all excited about but everyone else is bored shitless with, and the campaigning only started yesterday. But the main focus can be about whatever you want it to be about. Immigration is always going to be a problem as long as we are members of the EU but leaving it would be worse for the economy. Living standards are OK if you are in the right social group that gets elected. The Tories hate the poor and give tax cuts to the rich funded by cuts to social security. The Labour party are traditionally more oriented to helping the workers with low VAT and taxing the rich more to pay for help to the poorest but I think they've forgotten about that and all seem obsessed with cutting a budget deficit caused by the banking crisis that wouldn't exist if the 6 richest companies paid their business tax for one year. No one mentions that though... I think it's crisis capitalism, take a social problem and make it worse then claim the only cure is privatisation and cuts to public services. It's a tried and tested formula. We don;t get the chance to vote on things that really matter like banking regulation or the new transatlantic trade agreement that will hand control of environmental and employment law to lawyers working on the behalf of multinational companies. As if we haven't had our hard won workers right's stamped on by our current hideous establishment cronies. We are already in the hands of vast corporations and there is less we can do about it every year. I think the modern world is doomed. You won't read that in a newspaper though, they'll be concentrating on the largely irrelevant crap that politicians say while the interesting stuff goes on in the background. So I'm not sure if it matters who wins. http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073 http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073 Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html Unease about immigration at core of UK election campaign http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html UKIP, which has risen rapidly from ragtag band of right-wing dissidents to serious political force, is the main beneficiary of Britain’s unease about immigration. View on www.thestate.com http://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/world/article16983611.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Asymmetric!
http://www.smh.com.au/world/russian-analyst-urges-nuclear-attack-on-yellowstone-national-park-and-san-andreas-fault-line-20150331-1mbl14.html http://www.smh.com.au/world/russian-analyst-urges-nuclear-attack-on-yellowstone-national-park-and-san-andreas-fault-line-20150331-1mbl14.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And you Scorpions don't even mind the ruling elite spending a few quid to re-inter the bones of a former monarch who didn't avert the danger before it arose - at least you have a sense of history! I didn't get the furore around all that. I think people just like to get all sombre and supplicate about something or somebody and if they are royal then the happier they are with it. Or maybe it's just that they have respect for someone who had a go at ruling the place in a difficult time or a link to history no matter how grim it was. Or both, I have no idea. What I object to with the kings and queens trip is that it's only a tiny part of England but we're all expected to know all about it and even care. Royalty is such a dreadful anachronism now, they don't do anything except sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and give people something to feel patriotic about but they seem to need it because if it came to a vote we'd (not me) vote to keep a bunch of bone idle parasites living in the lap of luxury with servants to even put toothpaste on their brushes instead of kicking them out of their castles and making them work for their endless skiing holidays. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 03/31/2015 10:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : This morning the BBC says the upcoming election in the UK is about living standards. But my local paper says its about immigration. What's the deal in Scorpion land? Apparently there's some sort of election coming up that politicians and the media are all excited about but everyone else is bored shitless with, and the campaigning only started yesterday. But the main focus can be about whatever you want it to be about. Immigration is always going to be a problem as long as we are members of the EU but leaving it would be worse for the economy. Living standards are OK if you are in the right social group that gets elected. The Tories hate the poor and give tax cuts to the rich funded by cuts to social security. The Labour party are traditionally more oriented to helping the workers with low VAT and taxing the rich more to pay for help to the poorest but I think they've forgotten about that and all seem obsessed with cutting a budget deficit caused by the banking crisis that wouldn't exist if the 6 richest companies paid their business tax for one year. No one mentions that though... I think it's crisis capitalism, take a social problem and make it worse then claim the only cure is privatisation and cuts to public services. It's a tried and tested formula. We don;t get the chance to vote on things that really matter like banking regulation or the new transatlantic trade agreement that will hand control of environmental and employment law to lawyers working on the behalf of multinational companies. As if we haven't had our hard won workers right's stamped on by our current hideous establishment cronies. We are already in the hands of vast corporations and there is less we can do about it every year. I think the modern world is doomed. You won't read that in a newspaper though, they'll be concentrating on the largely irrelevant crap that politicians say while the interesting stuff goes on in the background. So I'm not sure if it matters who wins. I think Europeans have been conditioned over centuries to accept being serfs so you don't care what the ruling class does. Those who didn't like seemed to escape to this country. That's why we want to fry the rich and politicians. I walked past Buckingham palace today and there was a huge crowd hoping to catch a glimpse of Her Maj as she waved from her balcony. Meanwhile her staff at one of her many other vast homes have gone on strike for more pay. Apparently the tight-fisted cow doesn't even pay the nationally accepted living wage! Unbelievable what people will put up with and still TV shows like Downton Abbey are astoundingly popular even though it only features the 1% with all the money and their trials and tribulations while everyone else worked their fingers to the bone to provide them with enough money for their mansions in the first place. People love all that master/servant stuff, I think it says something highly disturbing about our national psyche. I'm just glad I'm immune to it. Here's a good breakdown on this: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-feudalism.html http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/03/financial-feudalism.html That's about the size of it. http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32126073
[FairfieldLife] Great story about the Playboy mansion in L.A.
This story, as passed along by my fave Paris blogger Messy Nessy Chic, could very well be either an urban legend or an intentional put-on by the staff at Playboy, or both. But if it's TRUE...what a portrait of privileged debauchery it paints. If such tunnels ever existed -- or even the plans for them -- it's proof that you don't have to be a spiritual teacher to attain this level of elitism and entitlement. :-) The Secret Playboy Mansion Tunnels that led to the Hollywood Homes of Celebrity Casanovas | | | | | | | | | | | The Secret Playboy Mansion Tunnels that led to the Holly...The editorial staff at Playboy.com recently revealed that they have discovered a bunch of dusty old blueprints, plans and photographs in an unfinished base | | | | View on www.messynessychi... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Excellent synopsis Barry, thanks! Here's a section of an interview with Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright with a few added points that should give long time TMO folk (or ANY cult member) pause. Particularly note the importance of amassing real estate holdings: The rally where David Miscavige announces L. Ron Hubbard’s death is particularly amazing. Gibney: He never uses the word death, because of course it’s not a death! LRH has left his body — he no longer needs his body. The crowd’s response is remarkable as well: They start off nervously laughing, and then end up cheering, not even recognizing the absurdity of what Miscavige is saying. Gibney: One of the reasons I structured the film the way I did is to show that Scientology is evolutionary and immersive. If you’d walked in out of the street and saw that speech without having gone through the process, of course you’d react cynically. So we waited until midway through the film to show that footage to give viewers a sense of how it might feel; by then, you have to become immersed, and when you do, things change for you. The movie touches on it briefly, but what is the principle behind Scientology’s drive to amass real estate holdings, not only in the U.S., but also overseas? Wright: The Scientology ideal is to “clear” the planet, which means bring awareness to people all over the world. Their strategy, in part, is to create these extraordinary buildings [in historic areas] that have been elaborately refurbished inside. They’ve done this in Times Square, Hollywood, and Music Row [in Nashville], and the same thinking applies in Europe and even in Israel. There was a scandal in Israel several years ago where the church had acquired a historic building in Jaffa [that burned in a suspected case of arson http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/future-scientology-center-in-jaffa-burns-police-suspect-arson-1.318737]. Distilling the book into a two-hour film naturally resulted in a lot of material being excised. What sections did you most regret having to leave out? Wright: I wish we’d been able to explore the role of children in the Church a little more deeply, especially those who join the Sea Org when they’re really young and sign away their lifetime, or however many lifetimes fit in a billion years. They lose their education, they are impoverished and when the time comes later in life when they decide they’ve had enough and are going to walk away, they have to leave their families behind. That’s the fate of those children if they decide they’ve made a mistake. No child should be allowed to make a fateful decision like that. In talking to some of these children, it’s very clear to me that the Church has been in violation of child labor laws. Where’s the enforcement? I find that very shocking, and I wish we had had a little more room to explore some of those stories. It’s not as if some of the celebrities don’t know about it, because there are pages that attend to Tom Cruise and so on. Does it ever occur to Tom Cruise, “Why isn’t this child in school? Where are his parents?” In addition to being an exposé into Scientology, Going Clear is also an account of the past thirty years of Hollywood history. As the film makes apparent, so many contemporary movie stars like Cruise and Travolta, as well as filmmakers like Paul Haggis, emerged from within the city’s Scientology community. Gibney: I think what Scientology discovered is that the real religion of America is celebrity. If they could hitch their wagon to that star, things would turn out a lot better for them. They had a kind of recruiting system, particularly through [stage director and acting teacher] Milton Katselas’s acting class http://www.nytime/. Actors, often by professional need, are sometimes very needy and insecure, because they have to be open. I think that it was also smart from an institutional perspective to be able to recruit people by saying, “You need a part, and we can help you get that part.” So Scientology has had a formative role for many people, but there are also a lot of powerful people in Hollywood who I think were scared by Scientology, because it had in its stable some very powerful people. It was very difficult to buck that if you wanted to work with those people, particularly actors, because actors are the coin of the realm when it comes to movies. If you want to get a script made, then you have to attach a major star. 'Going Clear': Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright BringTheir Scientology Doc Into Focus https://www.yahoo.com/tv/alex-gibney-and-lawrence-wright-bring-going-114601615525.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma
[FairfieldLife] Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
I'll just say it -- any long-term current or former member of the TM movement or any other large spiritual organization who does not track down and watch all two hours of the HBO documentary Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief is a COWARD. This film should be required viewing for anyone on a spiritual path, to teach them about the perils of following a spiritual path. Here are a few random notes I scribbled down while watching it myself: * Off-camera voice (probably Alex Gibney, director): Scientology is such a subject of fascination for people...how did you get engaged in the story? Lawrence Wright (author of the book the HBO film is based on): Well, I've always been interested in religions, and why people believe one idea rather than another. I've studied Jonestown and radical Islam, and they're oftentimes good-hearted people, idealistic, but full of a kind of crushing certainty that eliminates doubt. You know, my goal wasn't to write an expose -- it was simply to understand Scientology, trying to understand what people get out of it. You know, why did they go into it in the first place? I was interested in intelligent and skeptical people who were drawn into a belief system and wind up acting on those beliefs in ways they never thought they would. * Onscreen photo of the actual legal contract: SEA ORGANIZATION Contract of Employment I, .. DO HEREBY AGREE to enter into employment with the SEA ORGANIZATION and, being of sound mind, do fully realize and agree to abide by its purpose which is to get ETHICS IN on this PLANET AND THE UNIVERSE and, fully and without reservation, subscribe to the discipline, mores and conditions of this group and pledge to abide by them. THEREFORE, I CONTRACT MYSELF TO THE SEA ORGANIZATION FOR THE NEXT BILLION YEARS. (As per Flag Order 232) Date ... Signed ... Date ... Witness .. Date ... Witness .. * Narrator: Hubbard was a prolific writer of pulp fiction, churning out stories for a penny a word. ... He found his true metier in science fiction. A lot of what Scientology is, he had previous written about in the form of his science fiction. He had the ability to fabricate these amazing tales and he transported these imaginary stories into his theology. * Narrator: After Pearl Harbor, Hubbard took command of a sub chaser. But he was still a man prone to invention. He would write that he sunk two Japanese subs. But in fact, just off the coast of Oregon, he opened fire on what turned out to be a log, and dropped most of his depth charges on underwater magnetic rocks. When he accidentally shelled a Mexican island, he was relieved of his command. * Spoken by Hubbard's ex-wife Sarah, whom the Church of Scientology denies the very existence of: We were surrounded by sycophants. He began to believe that he was a savior and a hero, that he really was this God figure. He was absolutely convinced that he had the cure for the psychological ills of mankind, and that the only reason it wasn't being promulgated far and wide was that the medical profession had a vested interest in keeping people sick. I think he was afraid that some psychiatrist would pop him into an institution. He degenerated into a really paranoid, terrifying person. Narrator: Sarah threatened to leave Hubbard unless he got psychiatric help. He responded by kidnapping their baby, and taking her to Cuba. He was incapable of her, so he put her in the charge of a mother and daughter who were both mentally retarded, and they apparently kept her in some kind of cage. Sarah: He called me and told me that he had killed her. He said that he had cut her into little pieces and dropped the pieces in a river, and it was my fault. Then he'd call me back and tell me she was still alive. And this went on, and on, and on. * [ Here's a section that should sound familiar to TMers ] Narrator: When Dianetics turned out to be a passing fad like the hula hoop, Hubbard repackaged Dianetics into a religion he called Scientology. Aware that people would seemingly pay for auditing, he added more science and more structure, and a payment plan. Every step to Clear had a price tag. Off-camera voice: How would you describe Scientology's business model? Tony Ortega (journalist critical of the Co$): Rapacious. It's all about making money. Hubbard knew from
[FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Even if they did de-monarchize Scorpion Land and kick their asses out and sell all the castles and mansions and estates the Tories would just steal all the proceeds. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And you Scorpions don't even mind the ruling elite spending a few quid to re-inter the bones of a former monarch who didn't avert the danger before it arose - at least you have a sense of history! I walked past Buckingham palace today and there was a huge crowd hoping to catch a glimpse of Her Maj as she waved from her balcony. Sex Pistols - God Save the Queen (Studio) http://youtu.be/8z2M_hpoPwk http://youtu.be/8z2M_hpoPwk Sex Pistols - God Save the Queen (Studio) http://youtu.be/8z2M_hpoPwk High Quality version of the Sex Pistols God Save the Queen (studio version) View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/8z2M_hpoPwk Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Old wives' tales
From the papers: Scientists have been 'dumbfounded' at the infection-killing ability of an ancient tenth-century cure, after a series of tests in Britain and the US during the past year. The Anglo-Saxon recipe, which includes wine, garlic, and bile from a cow’s stomach, could hold the key to defeating MRSA (the superbug). Dr Lee translated a recipe for treating styes – an infection of an eyelash usually caused by Staphylococcus aureus - and the past year has seen researchers painstakingly recreate it and test it on MRSA. The thousand-year-old remedy has proven to be an “incredibly potent” antibiotic, according to lead researcher Dr Freya Harrison, a microbiologist from the University of Nottingham. (This is the intriguing bit!): The individual ingredients alone did not have any measurable effect but when combined according to the ancient text, they killed up to 90 per cent of MRSA bacteria in infected mice. And in infections grown in the laboratory, only about one bacterial cell in a thousand survived. “I still can’t quite believe how well this one-thousand-year-old antibiotic actually seems to be working, when we got the first results we were just utterly dumbfounded. We did not see this coming at all,” commented Dr Harrison. This is the original recipe: “Work and eye salve for a wen, take cropleek and garlic, of both equal quantities, pound them well together, take wine and bullocks gall, of both equal quantities, mix with a leek, put this then into a brazen vessel, let it stand nine days in the brass vessel, wring out through a cloth and clear it well, put it into a horn, and about night time apply with a feather to the eye; the best leechdom.”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK?
Even if they did de-monarchize Scorpion Land and kick their asses out and sell all the castles and mansions and estates the Tories would just steal all the proceeds. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And you Scorpions don't even mind the ruling elite spending a few quid to re-inter the bones of a former monarch who didn't avert the danger before it arose - at least you have a sense of history! I didn't get the furore around all that. I think people just like to get all sombre and supplicate about something or somebody and if they are royal then the happier they are with it. Or maybe it's just that they have respect for someone who had a go at ruling the place in a difficult time or a link to history no matter how grim it was. Or both, I have no idea. What I object to with the kings and queens trip is that it's only a tiny part of England but we're all expected to know all about it and even care. Royalty is such a dreadful anachronism now, they don't do anything except sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and give people something to feel patriotic about but they seem to need it because if it came to a vote we'd (not me) vote to keep a bunch of bone idle parasites living in the lap of luxury with servants to even put toothpaste on their brushes instead of kicking them out of their castles and making them work for their endless skiing holidays. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well What's IS it about in the UK? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 03/31/2015 10:31 AM, salyavin808wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,mjackson74@... wrote : This morning the BBCsays the upcoming election in the UK is about livingstandards.But my localpaper says its about immigration. What's the deal inScorpion land? Apparentlythere's some sort of election coming up thatpoliticians and the media are all excited aboutbut everyone else is bored shitless with, and thecampaigning only started yesterday. Butthe main focus can be about whatever you want itto be about. Immigration is always going to be aproblem as long as we are members of the EU butleaving it would be worse for the economy.Livingstandards are OK if you are in the right socialgroup that gets elected. The Tories hate the poorand give tax cuts to the rich funded by cuts tosocial security. The Labour party aretraditionally more oriented to helping the workerswith low VAT and taxing the rich more to pay forhelp to the poorest but I think they've forgottenabout that and all seem obsessed with cutting abudget deficit caused by the banking crisis thatwouldn't exist if the 6 richest companies paidtheir business tax for one year. No one mentionsthat though... Ithink it's crisis capitalism, take a socialproblem and make it worse then claim the only cureis privatisation and cuts to public services. It'sa tried and tested formula. We don;t get thechance to vote on things that really matter likebanking regulation or the new transatlantic tradeagreement that will hand control of environmentaland employment law to lawyers working on thebehalf of multinational companies. As if wehaven't had our hard won workers right's stampedon by our current hideous establishment cronies. Weare already in the hands of vast corporations andthere is less we can do about it every year. Ithink the modern world is doomed. You won't readthat in a newspaper though, they'll beconcentrating on the largely irrelevant crap thatpoliticians say while the interesting stuff goeson in the background. So I'm not sure if itmatters who wins. I think Europeans have been conditioned over centuries to acceptbeing serfs so you don't care what the ruling class does. Thosewho didn't like seemed to escape to this country. That's why wewant to fry the rich and politicians. I walked past Buckingham palace today and there was a huge crowd hoping to catch a glimpse of Her Maj as she waved from her balcony. Meanwhile her staff at one of her many other vast homes have gone on strike for more pay. Apparently the tight-fisted cow doesn't even pay the nationally accepted living wage! Unbelievable what people will put up with and still TV shows like Downton Abbey are astoundingly popular even though it only features the 1% with all the money and their trials and tribulations while everyone else worked their fingers to the bone to provide them with enough money for their mansions in the first place. People love all that master/servant stuff, I think it says something highly disturbing about our national psyche. I'm just glad I'm immune to it. Here's a good breakdown onthis:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's house?
'In my reply to aryavazhi I was referencing the general vibe about being around Maharishi in a place like Seelisberg or Vlodrop, not the vibe of the physical places. Weird shit goes down when cultists are in close proximity to the leader of their cult. The Scientology weird shit reminded me of related-but-different weird shit I experienced when around Maharishi.' I stayed in both places, but it's a long time ago. When I was in Vlodrop, Maharishi wasn't really there, but only came for visits, during the last one I hardly saw him, as I was working through the night, to finish some jobs. Seelisberg is even longer time past, and yes, I have some nice memories, Seelisberg is after all quite a scenic place, but I never was really feeling attached to the place, like some other's I know. Partly I didn't like the Foehn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind which is prevelant in the alps. There was another movement place in Germany I felt attached to at a time, where I had stayed longest, but that left me, when we all moved to Holland at the time - Holland, rainy all the time, and completely flat, no see where we were. Lot's of forrests though, and lot's of wild pigs. I have more vivid memories of a bus ride to The Hague, where my chakras opened up, completely out of the blue really. It was strange though, when I approached that place again with my car, going down the small lane that leads up to Station 24. Sort of alienating, I didn't feel I have a connection there anymore. But then meeting an old friend is another story. This friend was just being nice and helpfull, and we have some common experience in the past, so I really appreciated that. the whole place was basically empty when I revisted, and that was just good that way. So, no, I didn't feel any vibes catching on to me. Neither anger, nor nostalgia or anything.
[FairfieldLife] Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? Cheee L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Hmmm... I always thought that capitalism meant something other than just turning a profit, though it isn't easy to decide when the latter turns into the former, and where the practicality ends and the self-destructive element begins. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from a viewing of Going Clear
Happened to me too Barry, as you know. Fascinating also to see the various monuments to Elron around the world, as well as the him posing for an artist bust in clay. Monumental (literally) ego of the leader leads to monuments made to said leader: check Large real estate holdings become critically important as cult membership dwindles: check We, and we alone, are the only salvation for planet Earth: check If planet Earth is not saved, it's YOUR fault: check Those who don't believe as we do are categorized as Wogs or non-meditators: check Those who express doubts or question the fundamentals are excommunicated: check I could go of course, but the point is that this can happen to anyone. It happens slowly, over time. Imagine if in TM we were told in our intro lecture that those who want to delve deeper into the practice will learn to fly', walk through walls, etc. Imagine if in TM we were told in our intro lecture that our mantras literally are the seed form names of vedic gods and that when completed (advanced techniques) we would literally be saying: Most glorious Saraswati, I Bow Down To You Again and Again. (Saraswati used here as an example.) Nope, we learned how to soft sell it in the intro lecture, knowing full well that we are lying through our teeth. Those who bring new recruits into $cientology learn to do the same.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Hmmm... I always thought that capitalism meant something other than just turning a profit, though it isn't easy to decide when the latter turns into the former, and where the practicality ends and the self-destructive element begins. The self-destructive element in contemporary capitalism is there alright. Just take a look at the banking sector collapse. We all knew that the financial sector was full of predators with moral compass inoperative. But no one thought their short-sighted greed would lead them to (inadvertently) crash the very system that was rewarding them so handsomely. The Lubitz case is *completely* different. It's actually closer to the case of terrorist Anders Breivik. They were both young men who had no healthy engagement with the wider society and culture around them and had retreated into private worlds nursing their respective grievances. Both men were/are nihilists. I submit that the issue of nihilism - a rejection of all value - is more a religious crisis than an economic one. L analysis is that he doesn't ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
