Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 104

[winiston]

Hi
Currently i am facing the problem in F 9

   I have installed F 9 in Intel 852GM chip with 6.4" display.
   But i can not set 640x480 resolution.
   i can able to set from 800x600 to 1024x768 range.
   I want to set 640x480 resolution.
   Can you provide the VGA driver?
   How to rectify this problem?

   Thanks a lot.

With Best Regards,
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  1. just in:  a yum update of 113 meg with 44 items..completed!
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  3. Re: new items not showing up on desktop (landon kelsey)
  4. Re: new items not showing up on desktop (charles zeitler)
  5. Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95 (winiston)
  6. OpenGL screensavers do not work under root but  (landon kelsey)
  7. Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100 (winiston)


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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
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new problem:

OpenGL Screensavers not working...the others work however!

I love "molecule" as a screensaver and it is an OpenGL Screensaver

Printing still sends off a kernel diagnostic




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when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.

is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?

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exactly how did you add the icons?

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Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:59 PM

when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.

is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?

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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:01 PM, landon kelsey 
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exactly how did you add the icons?

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Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:59 PM


when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.

is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?

charles zeitler

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Konqueror

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Hello,

it is a web-based game - TORN CITY. It looks awful with Konqueror. Please 
correct that problem.

One more thing. In Konqueror 4.1.00 it is impossible to remove bookmarks 
toolbar. If I remove, after Konqueror restart or just pressing on another tab, 
bookmarks toolbar is again activated. And bookmarks toolbar works bad. If I 
press to see hidden bookmarks, and trying to pick, additional bookmark tab 
closes.

BTW KDE-4.2 looks great!
Thanks :)


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Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues

[Stephen Croll]

Daniel J Walsh wrote:

So KDE+Konsole seems to be leaking a file descriptor.

  

Yes, that seems to be the case.  With KDE 4.1, the fd is now 23 (if
that's somehow useful):

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lr-x--  root root unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 3 
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Also, NetworkManager, whether on or off, doesn't seem to make a difference now.
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Re: new items not showing up on desktop

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 22:59 -0500, charles zeitler wrote:
> when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
> they are not displayed on the screen.
> 
> is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?

I have termed the desktop in KDE-4.x the dead zone.

With the 4.1 updates, you can add the widget (right click on the desktop
and select 'add widget'), called 'folder view' - but even that leaves
much to be desired.

On KDE 4, the 'Desktop' has definitely changed personality

Craig

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Re: pidgin don't work after updates-newkey (fedora 8)

[Rahul Sundaram]

yordy wrote:



I will try to gat a backtrace and post a ticket to developers. But, It will be 
an error of pidgin (developers) or it will be an error of pidgin compiled for 
Fedora 8, or and error particular of my system.


You would need to backtrace to know for sure but usually it is a 
software bug.


Refer

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces

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pidgin don't work after updates-newkey (fedora 8)

[yordy]

After update my Fedora 8 system from updates-newkey, pidgin don't startup. I 
run pidgin from gnome-terminal and this is the output:

---

Pidgin 2.5.1-1.fc8 has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.
This is a bug in the software and has happened through
no fault of your own.

If you can reproduce the crash, please notify the developers
by reporting a bug at:
http://developer.pidgin.im/simpleticket/

Please make sure to specify what you were doing at the time
and post the backtrace from the core file.  If you do not know
how to get the backtrace, please read the instructions at
http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GetABacktrace

If you need further assistance, please IM either SeanEgn or 
LSchiere (via AIM).  Contact information for Sean and Luke 
on other protocols is at
http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/DeveloperPages
Aborted

---

Packages fedora-release-8-6.transition, pidgin-2.5.1-1.fc8 and 
libpurple-2.5.1-1.fc8 was installed without error. This a particular error of 
my system or this is a bug in pidgin-2.5.1-1.fc8 package?. I have Fedora 9 in 
my other box and update from updates-newkey work fine and pidgin-2.5.1-1.fc9 
work fine too.

Any idea?

I will try to gat a backtrace and post a ticket to developers. But, It will be 
an error of pidgin (developers) or it will be an error of pidgin compiled for 
Fedora 8, or and error particular of my system.



  

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OpenGL screensavers do not work under root but

[landon kelsey]

do work under my user account!

Yes I know...I shouldn't be using X windows with root but why?



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Re: OpenGL screensavers do not work under root but

[Rahul Sundaram]

landon kelsey wrote:

do work under my user account!

Yes I know...I shouldn't be using X windows with root but why?


Never login as root in your graphical environment. A number of programs 
will not run as intended.


http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#root-fail

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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:40 +0100
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2008/9/11 Brian Millett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Timothy Murphy escribío:

I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
for keeping a record of appointments, etc.

These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
to be well-designed, and the default choice
which any rival must improve upon in some way.

The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
"Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
at <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/
Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.

I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".

But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?

Any suggestions gratefully received.


What do you use for email?  Sounds like you use KDE, but...

I use Thunderbird and the lightning plugin.  The integration is much 
better than before
and is quite good.  The appointments, or invites sent by my mac friends 
can easily be
subscribed to.  It works for me.  I use the latest plugin found below and 
it is stable for me.


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/linux-xpi/lightning.xpi


And if you're using Thunderbird with Lightning then I also highly
recommend the Provider add-on which enables two-way synchronisation
with Google Calendar.

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4631

Dave...



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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:27:11 -0500
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Mikkel L. Ellertson escribío:

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
the files in /etc/yum.repos.d

I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.

poc


Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
.rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
config file does not work with the new version...)

Mikkel



Not those.  I had the fedora.repo.  What I got instead was two new ones

fedora-updates-newkey.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo

I just deleted the older fedora-updates.repo & fedora-updates-testing.repo

Thanks for all help.

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:28:24 -0400
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
for keeping a record of appointments, etc.

These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
to be well-designed, and the default choice
which any rival must improve upon in some way.

The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
"Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
at <http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/
Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.

I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".

But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?

Any suggestions gratefully received.



I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it would also be great if
anyone has had positive experience with a calendar solution that is
known to just work with a PDA (PDA recommendations accepted as well).

-Mauriat



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OpenGL screensavers do not work under root but

[landon kelsey]

do work under my user account!

Yes I know...I shouldn't be using X windows with root but why?



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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 95

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Hello Kelvin Kofler,

I meant to say Fedora 9.

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  1. Yum Errors (Dan Bunyard)
  2. Re: no new kernels? (Steve Repo)
  3. Re: Regarding Fedora core 9 (Kevin Kofler)
  4. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
  5. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
  6. Re: Yum Error (Kevin Kofler)
  7. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable !  Was: whew !  That is more like
 it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Kevin Kofler)
  8. Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail (Tim)
  9. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
 tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
 10. Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and
 tricks thread. (Kevin Kofler)
 11. Re: KDE4.1- Plasma crashing (Kevin Kofler)
 12. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak)
 13. Re: SELinux kerneloops and dhclient issues (Daniel J Walsh)
 14. Re: blue screen of death after logout (Patrick O'Callaghan)
 15. Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable !  Was: whew !  That is more like
 it ! Folderview and panel questions... (Patrick O'Callaghan)
 16. Re: yum update yum;yum update yum-utils;   WORKS (landon kelsey)


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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:31:34 -0400
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After running yum update a second time on my Fedora 9 system, I am now
receiving this when I try to run yum:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in 
   yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
   errcode = main(args)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 84, in main
   base.getOptionsConfig(args)
 File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 184, in getOptionsConfig
   enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 189, in
_getConfig
   startupconf.pluginconfpath,disabled_plugins,enabled_plugins)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 355, in
doPluginSetup
   plugin_types, confpath, disabled_plugins, enabled_plugins)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 152, in
__init__
   self._importplugins(types)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 195, in
_importplugins
   self._loadplugin(modulefile, types)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 251, in
_loadplugin
   module = imp.load_module(modname, fp, pathname, description)
 File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/filter-data.py", line 111
   ('committers', 'committer')]
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks!!
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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:10:36 +0530
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, landon kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

ditto! I suppose changing too many things at once!

Never change horses in mid stream

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From: Tom Horsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: no new kernels?
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Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 9:03 PM

Just asking :-). I was kinda surprised that no new
kernel showed up in any of the F8 or F9 updates
(for me anyway).



I'm rather wait for 2.6.27 since it's just around the corner (i'm
waiting for ath9k) :)

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Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:46:55 + (UTC)
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Re: new items not showing up on desktop

[charles zeitler]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:01 PM, landon kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> exactly how did you add the icons?
>
> --- On *Thu, 9/11/08, charles zeitler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: charles zeitler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: new items not showing up on desktop
> To: "fedora-list" 
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:59 PM
>
>
> when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
> they are not displayed on the screen.
>
> is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?
>
> charles zeitler
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umm... not icons, files & directories. and they _do_ show up in konqueror
& konsole, just not on the screen...

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Re: new items not showing up on desktop

[landon kelsey]

exactly how did you add the icons?

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, charles zeitler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 10:59 PM

when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.

is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?

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new items not showing up on desktop

[charles zeitler]

when i add items to "desktop", with konqueror or konsole,
they are not displayed on the screen.

is this a quirk with kde-4.1 or something else?

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just in: a yum update of 113 meg with 44 items..completed!

[landon kelsey]

new problem:

OpenGL Screensavers not working...the others work however!

I love "molecule" as a screensaver and it is an OpenGL Screensaver

Printing still sends off a kernel diagnostic



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Re: Fedora List Bounces?

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> is forwarding it to the list. What gives?
>
Nothing

The "Sender" header has been [EMAIL PROTECTED] for as long
as I can remember.



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Re: ftp passive connection timing out

[rfjones]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 17:03 -0400, James Kosin wrote:
> rfjones wrote:
> > I update my server to f9; client is f8
> > my ftp no longer works; I get following error trying to put get or ls:
> > 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,253,12,152,205).
> > ftp: connect: Connection timed out
> > 
> > an f9 client can connect without errors
> > I have not changed the f8 ftp client after updating the server to f9
> > any help would be greatly appreciated
> > TIA
> > rfjones
> > 
> > 
> If you have a firewall setup, it can mess with passive ftp transfers.
I have a frewall on the server, but it causes no problems for the f9
(new) client, just old f8 client
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Fedora List Bounces?

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Lately I've been getting messages sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm subscribed to fedora-list@redhat.com, and it seems that
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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Nifty Fedora Mitch]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:13:30PM -0500, John Thompson wrote:
> 
> Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> 
> > The Firefox issue is interesting... since we depend on external plugins
> > that are not open source and not 64 bit... 
> 
> Isn't that what "nspluginwrapper" is for?
> 

Yes...
when I tried 64bit brand new Fedora8 on this box I could not get 
all the bits I needed running..   Perhaps today as it has aged
it might be fine after a full yum update.




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Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height

[Timothy Murphy]

Florian Sievert wrote:

>> My panel has disappeared completely,
>> including the F start icon.
...
>> If I knew which file in .kde/share/configs/ actually deals with the panel
>> I could probably fix it.
>>   
> plasma-appletsrc
> plasmarc
> Are both files that handles plasma configuration. IMAO the panel itself
> should be in the first one.

Thanks for that.
I recovered by panel by replacing .kde/share/config/plasma-appletrc
with a version from another "instance" of kde.

I suspect that what had happened was that I had somehow
set the position of the panel outside the desktop.

It was instructive to learn that one do without the panel,
changing desktops by ctrl-F? and running commands
by right-clicking on empty desktops.


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Re: KDE 4.1: Unacceptable ! Was: whew ! That is more like it ! Folderview and panel questions...

[Kevin Kofler]

Patrick O'Callaghan  gmail.com> writes:
> Yes. Ironically I could never remember the name Kicker since it means
> nothing whereas Kickoff does kind of mean something :-)

Well, a kicker is somebody who kicks. :-) In some German-speaking regions, it's 
used as a slang term for "soccer player" (they kick the ball, so 
they're "kickers" ;-) ). (The standard term is "Fußballspieler", 
and "Fußballer" is a common abbreviation.)

But this is getting way off topic for this list. ;-)

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Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree

[Kevin Kofler]

Rahul Sundaram  fedoraproject.org> writes:
> Known issue. Updates have been pushed and not just synced with all the 
> mirrors yet.

That's not the problem here. See:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-September/msg01124.html
for what's actually going on.

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Re: Download Link is not working

[Vikas Tehlan]

Ed Greshko wrote:

Vikas Tehlan wrote:
  

Ed Greshko wrote:


I have been trying to download fedora from Fedora project website and
it gives an error. Could you please provide an alternative link for
download




Have you attempted to use bittorrent to download?  The links to the
torrents are on http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora

  
  

My orgnizational polices does not allow to access torrents, I am
trying with the direct download..

Kind Regards
Vikas



On that same page I referenced there is a link to mirrors

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/

Have you gone there?

  

Thanks, its working..

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Re: Download Link is not working

[Ed Greshko]

Vikas Tehlan wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> I have been trying to download fedora from Fedora project website and
>>> it gives an error. Could you please provide an alternative link for
>>> download
>>>
>>> 
>> Have you attempted to use bittorrent to download?  The links to the
>> torrents are on http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
>>
>>   
> My orgnizational polices does not allow to access torrents, I am
> trying with the direct download..
>
> Kind Regards
> Vikas
>
On that same page I referenced there is a link to mirrors

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/

Have you gone there?

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Re: Download Link is not working

[Vikas Tehlan]

Ed Greshko wrote:

I have been trying to download fedora from Fedora project website and
it gives an error. Could you please provide an alternative link for
download



Have you attempted to use bittorrent to download?  The links to the
torrents are on http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora

  
My orgnizational polices does not allow to access torrents, I am trying 
with the direct download..


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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

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> The Firefox issue is interesting... since we depend on external plugins
> that are not open source and not 64 bit... 

Isn't that what "nspluginwrapper" is for?

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[John Thompson]

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Kevin Martin wrote:

> John Thompson wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x

> The 32bit builds won't run on 64bit machines?  I'm not sure what you
> gain by running a 64bit build of FireFox (not that there's not something
> there, I just don't understand what it might be).

I guess I enjoy the challenge...  :-)

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Re: Download Link is not working

[Ed Greshko]

>
> I have been trying to download fedora from Fedora project website and
> it gives an error. Could you please provide an alternative link for
> download
>
Have you attempted to use bittorrent to download?  The links to the
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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[John Thompson]

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Mike Burger wrote:

> FWIW, it's just as easy to get the SRPM for F9, and rpmbuild it on F8,
> which is what I've been doing.

That's what I do here. In fact, until last year I was running Fedora
Core 1 and keeping it up to date in that way. When the hardware died, I
decided to move to Fedora8, which had just been released, on the new
machine.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Nifty Fedora Mitch]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 04:07:16PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> 
> > Which begs the question as to why the 64-bit one is what gets installed
> > by default on 64-bit Fedora systems. 
> 
> Actually, it raises the question.  And the answer is probably because it's
> easily possible to set up a 64-bit only Fedora system without any 32-bit
> libraries or software.

Possible yes, easily I am not so sure.

It is true that it is closer today than it was a couple years ago
but how does the phrase go..  "Close but no cigar".

The closest to a pure 64 bit system I know is a Gentoo 64bit install.
Yet even there I did need some 32 bit packages... at least that was
true 18 months ago when I needed less adventure in my life and
more free time in my free time.

The Firefox issue is interesting... since we depend on external plugins
that are not open source and not 64 bit... it seems to me that building
and installing the 32bit version of Firefox makes sense.   Once cruft like
wireless sorts itself out in 64 bit land then the demand mix will change.



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Re: When the floodgates open ...

[Nataraj]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 17:35 +, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:23 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > Since I cannot stop the UNENDING stream of update/update failed
> > popup messages for F9, I have switched to Suse 11 until such time
> > as F9 gets its bugs straighten out.
> 
> You can always kill your "gpk-update-icon" process, but my bet is this
> will be straightened out by tomorrow's wee-hours update push.
> 
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I solved a problem similar to this by doing "yum clean metadata", though
I did have to stop and restart the update in order to do this.

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Re: help with network installation

[Aldo Foot]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Simon Tierney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My laptop hard drive died.  The dvd-etc drive had been generatinb I/O errors
> for some time and i don't want to buy a new one in case it is a motherboard
> problem.
>
> I have a new hard drive and I am not sure if my bios will recognise a usb
> flashdrive to boot.
>
> The bios has a vrsion of pxe.
>
> i can't fins a definitiver version on the fedora site of how I could install
> over a network (may be my fault) -is it possible to install over the
> internet?
>
> Any help appreciated.
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See this --Installing Fedora via HTTP and FTP.
http://fedorasolved.org/Members/opsec/fedora-netinstall
They claim it applies to F7,8 and 9.

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Re: help with network installation

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Simon Tierney wrote:
> My laptop hard drive died.  The dvd-etc drive had been generatinb I/O errors
> for some time and i don't want to buy a new one in case it is a motherboard
> problem.
> 
> I have a new hard drive and I am not sure if my bios will recognise a usb
> flashdrive to boot.
> 
> The bios has a vrsion of pxe.
> 
> i can't fins a definitiver version on the fedora site of how I could install
> over a network (may be my fault) -is it possible to install over the
> internet?
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
You may want to look at:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-booting-from-pxe.html
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/ap-install-server.html

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Re: Glade [OT]

[Alan Evans]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know what is happening with Glade?
>
> The links to both the mailing lists on the web site 
> (http://glade.gnome.org/lists.htmll) are broken and there has been no news 
> update since 2007.

No idea, but version 3.4.5 is dated 5-May-2008:

  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/glade3/3.4/

And 3.5.2 is dated 9-Apr-2008.

Perhaps the mailing lists moved somewhere? Google+thirty seconds leads me here:

  http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo

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help with network installation

[Simon Tierney]

My laptop hard drive died.  The dvd-etc drive had been generatinb I/O errors
for some time and i don't want to buy a new one in case it is a motherboard
problem.

I have a new hard drive and I am not sure if my bios will recognise a usb
flashdrive to boot.

The bios has a vrsion of pxe.

i can't fins a definitiver version on the fedora site of how I could install
over a network (may be my fault) -is it possible to install over the
internet?

Any help appreciated.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Frank Cox]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:31:40 -0430
"Patrick O'Callaghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Which begs the question as to why the 64-bit one is what gets installed
> by default on 64-bit Fedora systems. 

Actually, it raises the question.  And the answer is probably because it's
easily possible to set up a 64-bit only Fedora system without any 32-bit
libraries or software.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:56 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
> 
> John Thompson wrote:
> > Kevin Martin wrote:
> >
> > | John Thompson wrote:
> > |
> > |> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
> > |> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm
> >
> > | Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
> > | want the latest you need to do that anyway.
> >
> > AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x
> >
> The 32bit builds won't run on 64bit machines?  I'm not sure what you 
> gain by running a 64bit build of FireFox (not that there's not something 
> there, I just don't understand what it might be).

Which begs the question as to why the 64-bit one is what gets installed
by default on 64-bit Fedora systems. Note that this disables some
add-ons such as Weave.

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yum disabled repo question...

[Kevin Martin]

During a yum update (F8) I see a line that says that 2 packages are 
being skipped due to repo protections.  How can I tell what the 2 
packages are so I can decide whether or not to enable the necessary repo 
(if only during the next yum update)?


Thanks.

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Re: Problems after updates (was: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 10:45 -0500, John Thompson wrote:
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> I pulled down and installed about 90 updates, but since then none of the
> objects in my ~/Desktop will launch programs -- instead they open as
> text files in the editor.
> 
> I had this happen once before and managed to fix it, but for the life of
> me I can't remember how?
> 
> Any ideas?

You might start by saying what desktop it is.

And please don't hijack threads (your message has nothing to do with the
one you replied to).

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Re: OT Electronics Help

[aragonx]

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Now THIS is the kind of geeky response I was hoping for.  A good first
>> step.  Now I just need to control the current. :)
>
> ok. this type of controlling is what i have done for past 30 years,
> but in commercial and industrial end of electronics.
>
> before i get into design very deep, i need to know one thing.
>
> just how good are you at 'rolling your own'?
>
> what you want can be done very easy with 1 control device a solid state
> relay.
> opto isolated, current range 4 to 60 +, with ac or dc input.
>
> all of which can be put into a 4" square electrical box.

I have that web site that outlines a solid state relay.  Looks pretty easy
even though it has been quite a few years since I've used a soldering gun.

The pump however is a variable speed type.  Vary the current and it will
vary the speed.  That is where I'm hung up.

Sorry for responding so slowly.


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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Mike Burger]

> John Thompson wrote:
>> Konstantin Svist wrote:
>>
>> > Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
>> > security patches & such?
>>
>> I was able to compile FF-3.0.1 for 64-bit Fedora8 using the Fedora9
>> src.rpm and a little tweaking. If you want to try them:
>>
>> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
>> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm
>>
>>
> Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
> want the latest you need to do that anyway.

FWIW, it's just as easy to get the SRPM for F9, and rpmbuild it on F8,
which is what I've been doing.

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Re: requeueing mail (sendmail)

[Bill Davidsen]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Does someone know of a nice tool to move things between mail queues such
that special problems can be handled, such as longer than default retry
for certain systems, run only at a certain time, run unlikely to work
stuff occasionally only, from a special q, etc.

I can do this with some perl scripting, but the locking needed to be
reliable is ugly, I have to maintain it, and it will be just the minimum
functionality I need to solve my current problem. If there's some spiffy
solution I missed it would be a timesaver.


Sendmail can do it - you have to get into the more advanced
configuration. You don't need to put the mail in separate queues -
you can set different rules for different destinations. But you will
probably need a Sendmail guru to set it up for you.


I could set it up if I had to, but that's not what I'm looking for. I 
want the stuff in different queues, and while I might be able to do it 
in sendmail using perl or similar to handle the reason messages in the 
qf file is easier. I was hoping for a tool which has nice rules, a human 
readable config, and logging. And it would have to be done in 
sendmail.cf, so I'd have to patch every time a change in the .mc file is 
made.


You may be able to do the same with Postfix but I have never checked
on it.


Thanks, but I'd rather have something which sits on top of an unmodified 
sendmail, less likely to be broken by updates.


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Great trouble with Fedora 9

[Felipe Nunez]

 Hi:

  Since I installed in my home computer with processor : "model name: 
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4400  @ 2.00GHz" , Fedora 9 - both 32 and 64 
bit version, my machine crashes all of a sudden, or as it happened right now, 
while I use Free Cell Solitaire, there is no way to access the display 
screen. The computer mus be shut down.

  The following lines are taken from /var/log/messages. 


Sep 11 16:32:48 bizet NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 
8 -> 3
Sep 11 16:32:48 bizet NetworkManager:   (wlan0): deactivating device.
Sep 11 16:32:48 bizet NetworkManager:   wlan0: canceled DHCP 
transaction, dhclient pid 3137
Sep 11 16:32:48 bizet bonobo-activation-server (felipe-4672): could not 
associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to 
socket /tmp/dbus-mQGw0NDNYY: Connection refused
Sep 11 16:32:51 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.726261 seconds
Sep 11 16:32:55 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.678555 seconds
Sep 11 16:32:59 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.672518 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:02 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.664536 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:06 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.38 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:10 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.664443 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:10 bizet gdm-binary[2377]: WARNING: GdmLocalDisplayFactory: 
maximum number of X display failures reached: check X server log for errors
Sep 11 16:33:10 bizet init: prefdm main process (2377) terminated with status 
1
Sep 11 16:33:10 bizet init: prefdm main process ended, respawning
Sep 11 16:33:13 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.664471 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:17 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.671504 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:21 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.669587 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:24 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.681581 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:28 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.668550 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:32 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmDisplay: display lasted 
3.685263 seconds
Sep 11 16:33:32 bizet gdm-binary[4800]: WARNING: GdmLocalDisplayFactory: 
maximum number of X display failures reached: check X server log for errors
Sep 11 16:33:32 bizet init: prefdm main process (4800) terminated with status 
1
Sep 11 16:33:32 bizet init: prefdm main process ended, respawning


  Maybe it could be of interest to show what I get from my daily logwatch. I'm 
not sure if it is related to the main problem.

 
 - Init Begin  
 
 **Unmatched Entries**
 tty4 main process (2776) killed by TERM signal
 tty5 main process (2777) killed by TERM signal
    (idem)
  
  
 
 -- Init End - 

   It should be added that in the same computer I have Fedora 8 and when I 
boot with it there is no problem.
 
  Any advice, whatsoever, could be a great help


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Re: ftp passive connection timing out

[James Kosin]

rfjones wrote:
> I update my server to f9; client is f8
> my ftp no longer works; I get following error trying to put get or ls:
> 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,253,12,152,205).
> ftp: connect: Connection timed out
> 
> an f9 client can connect without errors
> I have not changed the f8 ftp client after updating the server to f9
> any help would be greatly appreciated
> TIA
> rfjones
> 
> 
If you have a firewall setup, it can mess with passive ftp transfers.

James



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Re: OT Electronics Help

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> I have that web site that outlines a solid state relay.  Looks pretty easy
> even though it has been quite a few years since I've used a soldering gun.
> 
> The pump however is a variable speed type.  Vary the current and it will
> vary the speed.  That is where I'm hung up.

most all can be done with wire cutters and knife, very little soldering
for pump. depending on which approach you take 'coming out' of computer.

there are 'card adapters' that plug eisa and pci. in/output is from
8 to 24, then you can get 32 to 64.

some cards a fixed input / output. some are command programmable.

control is; 'switched voltage', 'dry contact', 'analog voltage' in/output.

variable speed control for pump can be done several ways.

as stated before, 'are you good enough'?

can you write simple 'c'? scripts?


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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Kevin Martin]

John Thompson wrote:

Kevin Martin wrote:

| John Thompson wrote:
|
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm

| Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
| want the latest you need to do that anyway.

AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x

The 32bit builds won't run on 64bit machines?  I'm not sure what you 
gain by running a 64bit build of FireFox (not that there's not something 
there, I just don't understand what it might be).


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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Aaron Konstam wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
 The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
 just great, and
 that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
 key, updates is
 still active.

 Should that repo be deactivated?

 Thanks team for a job well done.
>>> Seems like the thing to do.
>>>
>> On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
>> the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
>>
> On mine the old one is still there.
> 
Are you sure? Check the time stamp on the files.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  234 2008-05-18 21:42 dvd.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1907 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-development.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1168 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1186 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-newkey.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1078 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1259 2008-09-08 10:57
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1151 2008-09-08 10:57 fedora-updates-testing.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1904 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-devel.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1808 2007-11-07 10:11 livna.repo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2003 2007-11-07 10:11 livna-testing.repo

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Re: laptop update issue

[Bill Davidsen]

Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:20:52 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Cox) wrote:


I'm trying to run "yum update" on a F8 laptop that hasn't been
updated for a few months.

It goes through all of the motions, downloads all of the updates,
then I get this:

QUOTE:
Transaction Summary
=
Install 17 Package(s) 
Update 313 Package(s) 
Remove   1 Package(s) 


Total download size: 726 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib =
1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3235.fc8, this is not available. Package
NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3235.fc8,
this is not available. Complete! END OF QUOTE


NetworkManager in F8 gold release was multiarch. Then in an update it
became non multi-arch. You have a x86_64 system, right? 

Do: 


yum remove NetworkManager.i386

and it should remove a few i386 packages and allow your update to
complete after that. 

While I don't have this particular problem, thanks for the hint. I've 
seen similar before, which I solved by removing and reinstalling the 
whole package, now I know one reason why this might be happening.


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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
> >> The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
> >> just great, and
> >> that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
> >> key, updates is
> >> still active.
> >>
> >> Should that repo be deactivated?
> >>
> >> Thanks team for a job well done.
> > Seems like the thing to do.
> > 
> On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
> the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
> 
On mine the old one is still there.
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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 19:28 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> landon kelsey wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Setting up Update Process
> >>> Resolving Dependencies
> >>> --> Running transaction check
> >>> ---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
> >>> --> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
> >>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> >>> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
> >>>   --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> >>> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> >>> Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> >>> yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>  i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
> >> update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.
> >> 
> >
> > No need to wait, read the notice here for help:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key#Known_Issues 
> >
> >   
> I did read that wiki and updated the new Key , that does not fix the Yum 
> update, The "yum-utils" shows up in the updates, but the "yum" package 
> is not in the updates, that is what's causing the problems, no "yum" 
> package.
> Thats why I said someone will catch it in a few days and put the "yum" 
> package in the updates repo.
> 
It may not be in the fedoraq.updates .repo but in the
fedora.updates.newkey.repo which is the one being used.
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Re: first yum went OK, however the second got the following

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:31 -0400, Jim wrote:
> landon kelsey wrote:
> > Setting up Update Process
> > Resolving Dependencies
> > --> Running transaction check
> > ---> Package yum-utils.noarch 0:1.1.16-1.fc9 set to be updated
> > --> Processing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 for package: yum-utils
> > --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> > yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch from updates-newkey has depsolving problems
> >   --> Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> > yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> > Error: Missing Dependency: yum >= 3.2.19 is needed by package 
> > yum-utils-1.1.16-1.fc9.noarch (updates-newkey)
> >
> >
>  i ran into the same problem, I going to wait a few days and run the 
> update for yum, by then somebody will fix the dependency.
> 
Again this works now.
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ftp passive connection timing out

[rfjones]

I update my server to f9; client is f8
my ftp no longer works; I get following error trying to put get or ls:
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,253,12,152,205).
ftp: connect: Connection timed out

an f9 client can connect without errors
I have not changed the f8 ftp client after updating the server to f9
any help would be greatly appreciated
TIA
rfjones


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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

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|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
|> http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm

| Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you
| want the latest you need to do that anyway.

AFAIK, Mozilla doesn't offer 64-bit builds of FF-3.x

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Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height

[Florian Sievert]

Hi Timothy,


Unfortunately, following your advice (probably wrongly)
has had a disastrous effect.
My panel has disappeared completely,
including the F start icon.
The only way I can run any application (like knode)
is to right-click on the empty screen and choose "Give command".
  
In fact, I am not sure what caused this problem. Might be an invalide 
widget? Did you tried to login again to ensure that not just plasma 
crashed? (try using "plasma" to launch it again)

If I knew which file in .kde/share/configs/ actually deals with the panel
I could probably fix it.
  

plasma-appletsrc
plasmarc
Are both files that handles plasma configuration. IMAO the panel itself 
should be in the first one.

Sorry, but my experience with KDE-4.1 has been very bad, to date.
My impression is that the KDE team have become much too clever,
and have forgotten that simplicity is often the best way.
  
Like said, it will be improved in kde 4.2. There are two buttons to 
resize or move the panel:

http://www.floriansievert.de/blog/uploads/screenshoots/panel_autohide.png
So don't worry ... it will get better ;)

Best regards,
Florian

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Re: microphone not recording

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

JoaoCid wrote:
> Hello Antonio,
> Thanks for the feedback, first of all...
> The answer is yes, I've done that in the alsamixer (gui/gnome version), and 
> what I find strange is that I am not able to see the respective information 
> also in the alsamixer console-version!
> Does this help to go a bit further?
> Again, thanks
> :)
> Joao
> 
> 
You may have to go into Edit --> preferences in the mixer, and check
Microphone Capture and Microphone Boost. This will put them in the
Switches tab. The microphone setting you are using are sending it to
the mixer for the output, and not capturing it for recording.

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Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?

[Rahul Sundaram]

John Thompson wrote:

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Frank Murphy wrote:
| On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 13:42 -0500, John Thompson wrote:
|
|> PuTTY for linux:
|> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml
|>
|
| The very thing.

rpms are also available:
http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=putty


I dont see the need for that.

# yum info putty
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Name   : putty
Arch   : i386
Version: 0.60
Release: 3.fc9
Size   : 1.3 M
Repo   : fedora
Summary: SSH, Telnet and Rlogin client
URL: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
License: MIT
Description: Putty is a SSH, Telnet & Rlogin client - this time for Linux.

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

[Kevin Martin]

John Thompson wrote:

Konstantin Svist wrote:

> Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
> security patches & such?

I was able to compile FF-3.0.1 for 64-bit Fedora8 using the Fedora9
src.rpm and a little tweaking. If you want to try them:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm


Why use the rpm's at all?  Why not just get it from Mozilla?  If you 
want the latest you need to do that anyway.


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Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?

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|> PuTTY for linux:
|> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml
|>
|
| The very thing.

rpms are also available:
http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=putty


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Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?

[Frank Murphy]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 13:42 -0500, John Thompson wrote:

> PuTTY for linux:
> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml
> 

The very thing.

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Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?

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| I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
| authorised_keys etc..
|
| What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based

PuTTY for linux:
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml

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Re: microphone not recording

[JoaoCid]

Hello Antonio,
Thanks for the feedback, first of all...
The answer is yes, I've done that in the alsamixer (gui/gnome version), and 
what I find strange is that I am not able to see the respective information 
also in the alsamixer console-version!
Does this help to go a bit further?
Again, thanks
:)
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Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height

[Timothy Murphy]

Florian Sievert wrote:

>> I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
>> panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
>> Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
>> My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.
>>   
> The way of doing it has changed since 4.0.x. It is solved much better in
> 4.2 trunk, however the feature does exist, even if it is quite well
> hidden. First get sure that you unlocked widgets. Either click on the
> cashew of the panel or select "panel settings" from the context menu. A
> new bar appears next to the panel. If you select the border of this
> panel, you can select the size that the panel should have. If you click
> on the bar, you can drag it into another screen edge. Hope this helps.

Unfortunately, following your advice (probably wrongly)
has had a disastrous effect.
My panel has disappeared completely,
including the F start icon.
The only way I can run any application (like knode)
is to right-click on the empty screen and choose "Give command".

How can I get my panel back?
Clicking on "Add panel" has no noticeable effect.

I tried mv-ing .kde to .kde.bak and re-starting X.
This worked, but would mean I have to re-set all my settings,
which would be too boring.
It is easier to do without the panel.

If I knew which file in .kde/share/configs/ actually deals with the panel
I could probably fix it.

Sorry, but my experience with KDE-4.1 has been very bad, to date.
My impression is that the KDE team have become much too clever,
and have forgotten that simplicity is often the best way.

In any case, does anyone know where I can find my panel, please?


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Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?

[Frank Murphy]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 14:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
> > 
> 
> You lost me, what do you mean?  Do you need to get a GUI on the server 

GUI on the client, in gnome you can "connect to server" your in, and
bookmark it.

I don't want to type, just "connect to server", but thunar doesn't seem
to have a similar function.


> you SSH into?  If so, you should just be able to run a remote X session.
> 
>  From the CLI once you've logged in, try running xconsole then you can 
> start up any GUI application you want.  (At least that's how I do it.)
> 

I don't want to start a gui on the server.

Frank


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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Rex Dieter]

Brian Millett wrote:

> The old fedora-updates.repo ??  

No (you can, but it's not necessary).

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Re: XFCE F9 ssh gui?

[Mark Haney]

Frank Murphy wrote:

I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
authorised_keys etc..

What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based.


Frank



You lost me, what do you mean?  Do you need to get a GUI on the server 
you SSH into?  If so, you should just be able to run a remote X session.


From the CLI once you've logged in, try running xconsole then you can 
start up any GUI application you want.  (At least that's how I do it.)




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Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree

[Rex Dieter]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> David R. Wilson wrote:
>> Hello fellows,
>> 
>> Dependency problem I ran into this morning from 2 machines:
>> 
>> xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 from livna has depsolving
>> problems
>>   --> Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
>> package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
>> Error: Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
>> package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
>> 
>> 
>> Could someone take a look?
> 
> Known issue. Updates have been pushed and not just synced with all the
> mirrors yet. Might try

Afaict, it's one mirror in particular out of sync, 
livna.cat.pdx.edu
most/all others are fine.

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XFCE F9 ssh gui?

[Frank Murphy]

I have added a rw\usb-stick as a ssh-client, pub-key added to server
authorised_keys etc..

What can I install in xfce to access the server gui based.


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Re: Backup Server RAID Suggestions - Resend

[Robin Laing]

Mike McMullen wrote:

Thank you Gilboa and James!

Here's a little more information.

Someone gave me the de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 PC. So I have a free PC
I'd like to turn into a NAS server. This doesn't have to be pretty just
functional and semi-cheap.

Since there isn't room in the PC case for the drives, let alone cooling
and power, I figured some external case/RAID storage box might do the
trick.

This thing doesn't need to be the fastest on the planet just reliable
and as inexpensive as possible. I need the money for lenses for the
cameras. ;o)

I've been looking at enclosures etc at www.pc-pitstop.com that use a
port multiplier. 


These seem reasonable. Anyone know anything about port multipliers? Am I
missing something big here? 


I'm definitely not an expert on raid storage.

Thanks!

Mike




On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 06:35 -0700, Mike McMullen wrote:

Hi All,

I am trying to build a NAS server based on Fedora 9.

I will be using a de-branded HP Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core with 2GB RAM

and

two 250GB drives mirrored for the OS stuff and a few apps.






Instead of purchasing an external case, I would look at the suggestion 
of getting a new computer with enough SATA ports to work with you drive 
requirements.  It could be cheaper to do this and provide a server that 
can do other things like transcoding videos or running ImageMagick 
scripts on directories of photos.


I just purchased a large Thermaltake case that can hold all the drives 
my ASUS motherboard has SATA and IDE ports for.


I am looking at this as well but looking at the new Seagate 1.5TB drives.

From a previous thread, you may want to order your drives at different 
times to ensure that all your drives don't come from the same batch.


I was looking at using RAID 1 but the lost drive space over RAID 1 and 
RAID 5 is drastic enough.


I have had drive issues under RAID 1 with software RAID and recovery was 
very easy.  I don't see any reason for hardware RAID for a home small 
business system.  You can use that money for a decent camera lens.



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Fedora 10 (Rawhide) missing pand - UPDATED

[Andrew Kenton Mitchell]

I sent a message asking for advice/help yesterday.  Sorry if I'm 
burdening anybody's in box, however, I have more info and I wanted to share.


The rawhide bluez-utils package seems to be missing /usr/bin/pand.

I tried to add the --enable-pand witch and rebuild the RPM from sources
however, bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.src.rpm doesn't seem to want to extract
on my system.

I dug around to see if pand was provided by a differing package:

# yum whatprovides */pand
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386 : Bluetooth utilities
Matched from:
Filename: /etc/rc.d/init.d/pand
Filename: /etc/sysconfig/pand



bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386 : Bluetooth utilities
Matched from:
Filename: /etc/rc.d/init.d/pand
Filename: /etc/sysconfig/pand

Then I decided to try a bluez-utils reinstall:

]# yum install bluez-utils
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-2.fc10 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 Package  Arch  Version  Repository 
   Size


Installing:
 bluez-utils  i386  3.36-2.fc10  rawhide 
   483 k


Transaction Summary

Install  1 Package(s)
Update   0 Package(s)
Remove   0 Package(s)

Total download size: 483 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10.i386.rpm 


  | 483 kB 00:03
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing : bluez-utils   [1/1]
service bluetooth does not support chkconfig

Installed: bluez-utils.i386 0:3.36-2.fc10
Complete!

The init script error surprised me.  Does anybody know if this is a just 
a bug.  Is pand being depreciated?  If so, what is the replacement?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Can anybody suggest a fix or alternative?

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Brian Millett]

Mikkel L. Ellertson escribío:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>> On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
>>> the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
>> I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
>> while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
>> place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.
>>
>> poc
>>
> Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
> .rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
> config file does not work with the new version...)
> 
> Mikkel
> 

Not those.  I had the fedora.repo.  What I got instead was two new ones

fedora-updates-newkey.repo
fedora-updates-testing-newkey.repo

I just deleted the older fedora-updates.repo & fedora-updates-testing.repo

Thanks for all help.

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Problems after updates (was: Fedora 8 and 9 updates re-enabled)

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I pulled down and installed about 90 updates, but since then none of the
objects in my ~/Desktop will launch programs -- instead they open as
text files in the editor.

I had this happen once before and managed to fix it, but for the life of
me I can't remember how?

Any ideas?

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 20:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
> > while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
> > place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.
> 
> If you have edited the files by hand, rpm updates won't overwrite the 
> configuration files usually and instead create .rpmnew files which gives 
> the user a chance to manually review and adopt the changes.

I realize that, I wasn't complaining :-)

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Re: KDE-4.1: increasing panel height

[Florian Sievert]

Hi Timothy,

I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.
  
The way of doing it has changed since 4.0.x. It is solved much better in 
4.2 trunk, however the feature does exist, even if it is quite well 
hidden. First get sure that you unlocked widgets. Either click on the 
cashew of the panel or select "panel settings" from the context menu. A 
new bar appears next to the panel. If you select the border of this 
panel, you can select the size that the panel should have. If you click 
on the bar, you can drag it into another screen edge. Hope this helps.



Best regards,
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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>
>> It's a plain text email. Whether you can click on it or not is
>> entirely up to your email client. I can click on all the urls given so
>> far.
>
> What email client, as a matter of interest?

Gmail


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Re: Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree

[Rahul Sundaram]

David R. Wilson wrote:

Hello fellows,

Dependency problem I ran into this morning from 2 machines:

xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 from livna has depsolving
problems
  --> Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
Error: Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)


Could someone take a look?  


Known issue. Updates have been pushed and not just synced with all the 
mirrors yet. Might try


# yum clean metadata
# yum update

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Re: Firefox 3 in Fedora 8?

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> Is that being planned at all? Or is F8 only supported in terms of
> security patches & such?

I was able to compile FF-3.0.1 for 64-bit Fedora8 using the Fedora9
src.rpm and a little tweaking. If you want to try them:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/RPMS/firefox-3.0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm


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Livna Dependency problem xine-lib-extras-nonfree

[David R. Wilson]

Hello fellows,

Dependency problem I ran into this morning from 2 machines:

xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 from livna has depsolving
problems
  --> Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)
Error: Missing Dependency: xine-lib(plugin-abi) = 1.24 is needed by
package xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.15-1.lvn9.i386 (livna)


Could someone take a look?  

Dave

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KDE-4.1: increasing panel height

[Timothy Murphy]

I can't find the setting to choose between Small, Normal and Large
panel size, that used to be in KDE-4.
Has it disappeared, or have I just missed it?
My panel is rather small in height, which was the default before.

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Re: Why do I always get fedora.tu-chemnitz.de as first mirror?

[Christoph Höger]

Am Donnerstag, den 11.09.2008, 09:44 -0500 schrieb Mikkel L. Ellertson:
> Christoph Höger wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > mirrors.fedoraproject.org states:
> > 
> >> This list is dynamically generated every hour, listing only up-to-date
> >> mirrors.
> > 
> > But in fact it is not. There is no .newkey folder. That would be ok, if
> > just could pick another mirror. But how would I do that without having
> > to modify my yum configuration (I know, I _could_ use baseurl, but a
> > mirrorlist is a fine thing)?
> > 
> > This question is important only because I could update the expected
> > large chunk at my work-LAN with about 17MB/s download speed.
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > christoph
> > 
> > 
> Dumb question - are you using the fastmirror yum extension?

Nope. 

I tried it with wget  and always got chemnitz as first hit. 
Nothing against chemnitz, but 
* it is not up2date
* the second hit is

That's a little bit breaking the feature "mirrorlist" isn't it? Or are the 
fedora discs randomly equipped with a secret sign to distribute the users over 
the mirrors ;) ?


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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Rahul Sundaram]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.


If you have edited the files by hand, rpm updates won't overwrite the 
configuration files usually and instead create .rpmnew files which gives 
the user a chance to manually review and adopt the changes.


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Re: Yum Error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 10:50 -0400, Jim wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 21:21 -0400, Jim wrote:
> >   
> >> Using Yumex I did a refresh in Rawhide and selected the kde-4.1.1 
> >> packages and dependencies where satisfied.
> >> 
> >
> > I tried "yum --enablerepo=rawhide groupupdate KDE" but the number of
> > dependencies was large and some were not satisfied, so I didn't bother.
> >
> > poc
> >
> >   
> Do a yum install yumex, yumex  will help you to see more and  make it 
> easier installing packages.
> "yum extender" will be located in /System after installed.
> I installed the KDE-4.1.1 packages from Yumex by selecting " Repository 
> Selection View Icon" on left  and checking "Rawhide" and then clicking 
> on "Refresh" .

I don't think I'll take the risk, especially after seeing Kevin's post.
I can wait for the updates-testing versions.

> Again, I'am using FC9, there is no Rawhide in FC8

You seem to be somewhat confused about the meaning of Rawhide. At any
given point in time Rawhide is the *next* version of Fedora which is
currently being worked on, i.e. at the moment it's F10. It's really for
testing only, so you can expect to have a busy time keeping everything
running until it stabilizes (around November according to the current
plan). That's why there's no Rawhide for F8. It's called F9.

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
>> the files in /etc/yum.repos.d
> 
> I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
> while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
> place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.
> 
> poc
> 
Did you edit your (old) repo files? You are only supposed to get
.rpmnew for config files you have changed... (Or .rpmsave if hte old
config file does not work with the new version...)

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Glade [OT]

[Steve]

Does anyone know what is happening with Glade?

The links to both the mailing lists on the web site 
(http://glade.gnome.org/lists.htmll) are broken and there has been no news 
update since 2007.

Steve.

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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:42 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
> >> The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
> >> just great, and
> >> that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad 
> >> key, updates is
> >> still active.
> >>
> >> Should that repo be deactivated?
> >>
> >> Thanks team for a job well done.
> > Seems like the thing to do.
> > 
> On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
> the files in /etc/yum.repos.d

I updated using "yum update" and some repo files were left untouched
while .rpmnew versions appeared in /etc/yum.repo.d. I moved them into
place by hand (having backed up the old ones of course). Seemed to work.

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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Jim  sbcglobal.net> writes:
  
  yum.YumRepo. YumRepository object at 
0xd69cpc>



This error has nothing to do with signing keys.

That said, Rawhide packages are NOT signed. That's because they're NOT intended 
for the average user to install and in particular, MUST NOT be installed on a 
Fedora 9 system.


Kevin Kofler

  
Well I as a normal user I did get the KDE-4.1.1 packages installed in 
FC9, after following the below instructions.


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/New_signing_key

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Re: blue screen of death after logout

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 10:23 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>> Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? 
> >> I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in
> >> the past.  X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a
> >> problem on systems that run continuously.
> > 
> > There was a time when it didn't restart, then a few releases back it was
> > decided that it should. I for one am happier the way it is now because
> 
> Is this configurable?

I don't know, but if so it would be controlled by the display manager
(which is the parent of X) so you would need to look there, i.e. config
options for gdm or kdm.

> > my X server definitely leaks memory quite severely. I posted about this
> > a while back (see
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/msg00036.html) 
> > but got no reaction. The problem is quite solid and reproducible. I was 
> > holding off reporting it to BZ in case any of the pending updates fixed it 
> > but they haven't.
> 
> You should post your results to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They will 
> get more serious attention there.

OK, thanks.

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Re: Why do I always get fedora.tu-chemnitz.de as first mirror?

[Bill Crawford]

On 11/09/2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christoph Höger wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> mirrors.fedoraproject.org states:
>>
>>> This list is dynamically generated every hour, listing only up-to-date
>>> mirrors.
>>
>> But in fact it is not. There is no .newkey folder. That would be ok, if
>> just could pick another mirror. But how would I do that without having
>> to modify my yum configuration (I know, I _could_ use baseurl, but a
>> mirrorlist is a fine thing)?
>>
>> This question is important only because I could update the expected
>> large chunk at my work-LAN with about 17MB/s download speed.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> christoph
>>
>>
> Dumb question - are you using the fastmirror yum extension?

This happened several times to me (on f8) and I'm not using fastest-mirror ...

> Mikkel
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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:01:39 -0400, Jim wrote:

  

FC9.  KDE-4.1.0

Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1 
from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to  
install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;


Error Downloading Packages:
  yum.YumRepo. YumRepository object at 
0xd69cpc>


I know it's a 'Key' problem but how do I fix it.



Wrong conclusion. KeyError here does not mean what you believe it means.

  

What does it mean ?  that is where my understanding is having a problem.

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Re: Yum Error

[Jim]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 21:21 -0400, Jim wrote:
  
Using Yumex I did a refresh in Rawhide and selected the kde-4.1.1 
packages and dependencies where satisfied.



I tried "yum --enablerepo=rawhide groupupdate KDE" but the number of
dependencies was large and some were not satisfied, so I didn't bother.

poc

  
Do a yum install yumex, yumex  will help you to see more and  make it 
easier installing packages.

"yum extender" will be located in /System after installed.
I installed the KDE-4.1.1 packages from Yumex by selecting " Repository 
Selection View Icon" on left  and checking "Rawhide" and then clicking 
on "Refresh" .

Again, I'am using FC9, there is no Rawhide in FC8

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Re: Calendar choice: looking for advice

[Brian Millett]

Timothy Murphy escribío:
> I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
> for keeping a record of appointments, etc.
> 
> These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
> to be well-designed, and the default choice
> which any rival must improve upon in some way.
> 
> The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
> "Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
> at  Building_a_Simple_Calendar_Server_with_Fedora_and_WebDAV>.
> 
> I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".
> 
> But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
> more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?
> 
> Any suggestions gratefully received.
> 
> 

What do you use for email?  Sounds like you use KDE, but...

I use Thunderbird and the lightning plugin.  The integration is much better 
than before
and is quite good.  The appointments, or invites sent by my mac friends can 
easily be
subscribed to.  It works for me.  I use the latest plugin found below and it is 
stable for me.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-mozilla1.8/linux-xpi/lightning.xpi

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Re: Why do I always get fedora.tu-chemnitz.de as first mirror?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Christoph Höger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> mirrors.fedoraproject.org states:
> 
>> This list is dynamically generated every hour, listing only up-to-date
>> mirrors.
> 
> But in fact it is not. There is no .newkey folder. That would be ok, if
> just could pick another mirror. But how would I do that without having
> to modify my yum configuration (I know, I _could_ use baseurl, but a
> mirrorlist is a fine thing)?
> 
> This question is important only because I could update the expected
> large chunk at my work-LAN with about 17MB/s download speed.
> 
> regards
> 
> christoph
> 
> 
Dumb question - are you using the fastmirror yum extension?

Mikkel
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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
>> The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
>> just great, and
>> that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad key, 
>> updates is
>> still active.
>>
>> Should that repo be deactivated?
>>
>> Thanks team for a job well done.
> Seems like the thing to do.
> 
On my system, the update replaced the repo file. Look at the date of
the files in /etc/yum.repos.d

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Calendar choice: looking for advice

[Timothy Murphy]

I've been looking at two "calendar" programs,
for keeping a record of appointments, etc.

These are Google Calendar, which seems to me
to be well-designed, and the default choice
which any rival must improve upon in some way.

The rival I have been looking at is the setup described in
"Building a Simple Calendar Server with Fedora and WebDAV"
at .

I also looked briefly at KOrganizer".

But I was wondering if anyone has looked into this
more carefully, and if so what conclusion they came to?

Any suggestions gratefully received.


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Re: blue screen of death after logout

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? 

I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in
the past.  X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a
problem on systems that run continuously.


There was a time when it didn't restart, then a few releases back it was
decided that it should. I for one am happier the way it is now because


Is this configurable?



my X server definitely leaks memory quite severely. I posted about this
a while back (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/msg00036.html) but 
got no reaction. The problem is quite solid and reproducible. I was holding off 
reporting it to BZ in case any of the pending updates fixed it but they haven't.


You should post your results to [EMAIL PROTECTED] They will 
get more serious attention there.


- Mike

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Why do I always get fedora.tu-chemnitz.de as first mirror?

[Christoph Höger]

Hi,

mirrors.fedoraproject.org states:

> This list is dynamically generated every hour, listing only up-to-date
> mirrors.

But in fact it is not. There is no .newkey folder. That would be ok, if
just could pick another mirror. But how would I do that without having
to modify my yum configuration (I know, I _could_ use baseurl, but a
mirrorlist is a fine thing)?

This question is important only because I could update the expected
large chunk at my work-LAN with about 17MB/s download speed.

regards

christoph



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Re: Should I disable the old updates repo?

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:23 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
> The old fedora-updates.repo ??  After the update hokey-pokey dance, all is 
> just great, and
> that's what its all about.  I'm happy.  But I noticed that the old, bad key, 
> updates is
> still active.
> 
> Should that repo be deactivated?
> 
> Thanks team for a job well done.
Seems like the thing to do.
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Re: ATA problems and boot problems.

[fred smith]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 09:18:06AM -0400, Robert Cahn wrote:
> I'm running F8.  Yesterday the system froze.  Now when I boot half the time
> I get
> 
> "Booting Fedora 2.6.25.11-60.fc8
> root (hd0,1)
> Error 5" Partition table invalid or corrupt"
> 
> The other half of the time when I boot up I'm getting lots of errors.  Here
> are ones I see when the system boots
> 
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x12 SAct 0x0
> SErr 0x780401 action 0x2
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3.00: BMDMA stat 0x4
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3: SError: { RecovData Proto 10B8B
> Dispar BadCRC Handshk }
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3.00: cmd
> 25/00:08:b8:03:ec/00:00:11:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 4096 in
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel:  res
> 51/84:00:bf:03:ec/84:00:11:00:00/e0 Emask 0x12 (ATA bus error)
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3.00: error: { ICRC ABRT }
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3: soft resetting link
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113
> SControl 310)
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3.00: configured for UDMA/33
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: ata3: EH complete
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] 312581808 512-byte
> hardware sectors (160042 MB)
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> Sep 11 08:41:34 localhost kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled,
> read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> 
> My question is does this appear to be a HW or SW problem?  Can anyone
> interpret the ata errors and the partition table error for me.

I'd venture to say you've got a hardware problem, quite possibly a
flaky hard drive, though it could be other things, e.g. a bad/loose
HD cable, some problem with the mommyboard, or simply system (or drive)
overheating.

I'd open it up, clean out all the dirt (if you have cats in the house
as we do here, it's probably full of fur), make sure all the fans are
working (and not especially noisy--implying they're on their last legs),
and that there's good air flow over the hard drive(s), then pull and 
re-seat each HD power and data cable, then try again. If none of that
helps, it's time to go buy a new hard drive.

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Re: Q re F8 and updates

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 21:11 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
> 
> I'm reading about all the yum problems, but none of them have given a clue 
> that will help me.
> 
> My yum, or yumex, is not showing me an updated fedora-release package, so 
> obviously I cannot even do a yum update yum-keys.
> 
> Is there not such a file for F8 yet, or is there a hand edit I need to do for 
> fedora-updates.repo?
Look at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_new_signing_key


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Re: KDE 4.1 Desktop, folder view, panel and widget tips and tricks thread.

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 06:08 -0700, landon kelsey wrote:
> 
> Once I rented a small Cessna C152 from a company at the airport.
> 
> I have many many hours in many types of aircraft!
> 
> I had a problem with the C152 at this particular company.
> 
> The instructors at the company recommended I get an additional
> checkout to learn how to "run" this C152.  I refused! Insanity!
> 
> They finally woke up when the mechanic was flying the aircraft and
> lost the engine!
> 
> I am NOT going to the KDE site and reading anything!
> 
> I haven't so far and I will not!
> 
> A desktop should be a intuitive measure and KDE has been up until now!

If something isn't worth learning if it isn't already intrinsically
understood, why bother asking? I think you are just wasting everyone's
time.

Craig

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Re: blue screen of death after logout

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 22:56 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 09:05 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> > Does the X server have to be restarted for every login? 
> 
> I don't know about now, but it's been found to be advantageous to, in
> the past.  X is big, and if it eats your memory as it runs, it can be a
> problem on systems that run continuously.

There was a time when it didn't restart, then a few releases back it was
decided that it should. I for one am happier the way it is now because
my X server definitely leaks memory quite severely. I posted about this
a while back (see
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-September/msg00036.html) but 
got no reaction. The problem is quite solid and reproducible. I was holding off 
reporting it to BZ in case any of the pending updates fixed it but they haven't.

poc

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