Re: Echo vs the destkop
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 17:53 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: When we approved Echo as the default icon theme for F10, I was under the assumption that this was already more or less known as a feature to the Desktop group, and they were OK with the coverage provided and the experience given. Is that the case? No, they weren't OK with the current coverage (at least Matthias Clasen) and we are working hard to improve it. Looking at the desktop now (beta), I see: - at least three different icon perspectives in the stock menus (echo, 'stock', bluecurve) With Mist, there are still new gnome styled icons, old gnome styled icons and bluecurve. In some places we reduced the old gnome and bluecurve to minimum, in others not yet. Check the System - Administration menu as an example. - nearly all 'upstream' gnome apps using non-echo style icons - an immediate disconnect between the perspective of the stock icons and the perspective of the main menu logo It also appears to me that the Echo icons scale to menu size I'm using (24) much worse than the prior icons. Are we planning to address these issues, either by increasing the Echo icon coverage, or changing various apps to point to system icons provided by Echo? Yep. If you feel some particular icon is missing, it's need-to-have and is not on our todo [1], feel free to ping us about it. Bill Our general idea is that some time around the final freeze it will be decided by art and desktop teams whether we are ready. If not, echo will be pulled back and submitted again for F11. I'd be for voting, enabled for art and desktop fas groups members regarding this issue. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Matthias Clasen wrote: I'm the last desktop team member on fedora-art-list, but I'm not a representative, and I have no way to reconcile the wildly varying opinions inside the desktop team when it comes to style and quality of the default icon theme. But I promise you, we don't bite... I invite more people from the desktop team to the art list, we are doing a lot of things related to the desktop so your input would be really useful. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Policy on works using unacceptable licenses?
David Nielsen wrote: Well as it seems we have two potential violations something much have gone wrong, I suggested in another thread that we might supplement the policy with examples of things to avoid. I suspect short of requiring a full audit trail for all submissions with ample documentation we will always see these slip ups, humans being fallable and all, but we might be able to minimize them by giving good examples of things to consider before submission. The human mind is apt to not thinking through all the scenerios that might create problems so helping it along is probably a good idea - sort of a before you submit your work, did you check a,b,c,d. Well, I propose a simple guideline: Don't like. When people ask about the source of your work, be honest and tell the truth. That would have solved all of our problems *weeks* ago, but I think it is common-sense and we should not have to have this as a written guideline. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Quoting Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 22:09 -0400, MáirÃn Duffy wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 18:22 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Bill Nottingham a écrit : Looking at the desktop now (beta), I see: - at least three different icon perspectives in the stock menus (echo, 'stock', bluecurve) I think Bluecurve mix are desktop bug. Current Fedora default theme used Bluecurve from some applications, same issue occurs on all icons theme. - nearly all 'upstream' gnome apps using non-echo style icons Please point out where we still have bluecurve icons in the default install. I don't see how that would happen. The inheritance of the Fedora icon theme in rawhide is: Fedora - Echo - Mist - gnome (- hicolor) I have seen bluecurve icons in rawhide's applications menu, but I think they are there because the 'upstream' apps use bluecurve style icons. For example, the SELinux Troubleshooter and the SELinux Management Tool. I think those should either be replaced with Echo icons or overrided with Echo icons when Echo is installed, right? Oh, yeah. Good point. *Writin for OLPC XO*,There are reported bugs related to hardcoded icons for system-config* that have not been addressed via Bugzilla. Echo is using symlink as workaround. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Mock-ups for pages on spins.fp.o
Hey there, It is time for the spins.fp.o website to take shape and there's a lot of stuff to do; First of all, we've come up with a Site Map[1] of what spins.fp.o is going to look like in the end, and we like to get started for F-10 GA for at least some of these pages. I'm thinking everything that is interactive is off the map for now as we can probably not get that in the 1.5-2 months that we have left for F-10 GA, but the pages itself, describing the process, the features of a spin, the viewing of the kickstart used to compose it, the HOWTO pages, etc. should be perfectly doable for F-10 GA. So, I've been asked to make some wire-frames[2] for the pages, but I am a graphical no-know (really). There's a couple of mockup[3] pages, which give an impression of how cool it could look ;-) So, the question is; who will help me in getting these wireframes for the pages we want to create for F-10 GA? It concerns the following pages (see sitemap) (need a wireframe): - Home[2] - Browse - Search - Spin Details - Download - View Kickstart - Spins Guide - What this? - Howto use - Howto burn - Howto USB - Howto Create `- Submit Review And I would like to gather some volunteers from the Spins SIG as well as the Art and Websites team so we can make this into something really really cool. If you would like to take on one or two or more of these wireframes, please let me know so we can keep track of who does what and save ourselves from doing duplicates. Thanks in advance, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Spins/SiteMap [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Spins/Wireframes [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Spins/Mockups ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fixing Solar
First of all I want to apologize with all art-team and mailing list member for last two days mails. This is my first work in FOSS environment and I didn't understand all implication and I saw your continue checking on my work as a way to find something wrong. Anyway... I fixed Solar wall paper with a moon taken from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Full_moon.png which is public domain and is possible to use. After it, I will fix also invinxible so we can leave it on wiki. Here https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Solar_2048x1536_v2.xcf.bz2 you can find the source correct. Step by Step i'm correctin the other format. Samuele -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
Samuele Storari a écrit : Anyway... I fixed Solar wall paper with a moon taken from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Full_moon.png which is public domain and is possible to use. After it, I will fix also invinxible so we can leave it on wiki. There is a tsuka image from wikipedia under cc-by-sa license. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tsuka-p1000660.jpg Luya signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
R: Re: Fixing Solar
Thanks a lot But I think I will use this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/renfield/149727039/sizes/o/ It have the same license of ur one. It will be a little better for perspective. Samuele - Messaggio originale - Da: Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Inviato: Mercoledì, 24 settembre 2008 12:36:11 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna Oggetto: Re: Fixing Solar Samuele Storari a écrit : Anyway... I fixed Solar wall paper with a moon taken from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Full_moon.png which is public domain and is possible to use. After it, I will fix also invinxible so we can leave it on wiki. There is a tsuka image from wikipedia under cc-by-sa license. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tsuka-p1000660.jpg Luya ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
Samuele Storari wrote: Anyway... I fixed Solar wall paper with a moon taken from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Full_moon.png which is public domain and is possible to use. That source should be OK. After it, I will fix also invinxible so we can leave it on wiki. Prioritize InvinXile as the last, we need Solar ASAP in a good shape for inclusion. Here https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Solar_2048x1536_v2.xcf.bz2 you can find the source correct. Step by Step i'm correctin the other format. If that makes your work easier: you don't have to provide XCFs for *all* the sizes of the wallpaper, the largest one is enough, the other are cut/resized from it. When you get to GRUB maybe try a simplified version, for the current one the white pixels (noise) do not look very good (I now, is really hard to have a good looking image with so few colors). Probably it has to be processed a bit after conversion to delete the noise. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Re: Fixing Solar
Samuele Storari wrote: Thanks a lot But I think I will use this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/renfield/149727039/sizes/o/ It have the same license of ur one. Keep in mind that it still has the Attribution clause, so you have to mention it in the wiki page along with a link to the source. I am not an expert in this matter but I suspect that it may requre your final image to be attributed like this: Created by Samuele Storari using samples by Renfield (but I am not certain, it may not be needed) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Yep. If you feel some particular icon is missing, it's need-to-have and is not on our todo [1], feel free to ping us about it. Sorry, I forgot to add reference: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/BaseSet Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Hi Martin, thanks for this useful link. We (KDE SIG) are trying to use Echo theme as default for KDE but currently there are still some icons missing. We are preparing list of to-be-done icons. So can we fill it as ticket for echo-icon-theme and edit Todo on Wiki? I really like Echo theme and it's amazing work from you and Art Team! Thank you! R. - Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. If you feel some particular icon is missing, it's need-to-have and is not on our todo [1], feel free to ping us about it. Sorry, I forgot to add reference: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/BaseSet Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Re: Fixing Solar
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 14:01 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Keep in mind that it still has the Attribution clause, so you have to mention it in the wiki page along with a link to the source. I am not an expert in this matter but I suspect that it may requre your final image to be attributed like this: Created by Samuele Storari using samples by Renfield (but I am not certain, it may not be needed) I think so...And also the derivative image must released using the same licence. Luca -- Today is Boomtime, the 48th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 Put your trust in those who are worthy. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it realistic to expect this to happen? Anything that thought to be unrealistic can happen. =) Sure, but does upstream gnome have any plans to echo-ify their icons? I think I'm on gnome-art-list and I've seen nothing there indicating this. It's not just going to happen. And I'm not sure it's a great idea. Why would they do this? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Re: Fixing Solar
Luca Foppiano wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 14:01 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Keep in mind that it still has the Attribution clause, so you have to mention it in the wiki page along with a link to the source. I am not an expert in this matter but I suspect that it may requre your final image to be attributed like this: Created by Samuele Storari using samples by Renfield (but I am not certain, it may not be needed) I think so...And also the derivative image must released using the same licence. Sorry, I overlook the Share Alike part... you are right. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: FedoraQA Art Request
Thanks María, I do like the bug shown in the second example. But I also like how the second example is spread out and makes full use of the space in the banner. The second example seems to jump out of the page a bit more, perhaps just using more contrasting colors. After taking into account Nicu's suggestion, my preference would be the first logo (http://tatica.org/tux/FedoraQA.png). Many thanks! James On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:15 +, María Leandro wrote: Hello! I was reading the Artwork Design Service and some ideas came up on the FedoraQA open request. I was talking a little with jlaska at the IRC channel and this are two propositions. (draws). Hope some like it :D http://tatica.org/tux/FedoraQA.png http://tatica.org/tux/FedoraQA2.png -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 Be yourself... Don't be anyone else ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Happy 5th Birthday banner
to the web site, but just in case, let me make that request here... if anyone wants me to file a ticket, I'm happy to do so! Personally I would love to have this up on the site for about 15 days. A couple weeks is not too long a time to celebrate 5 years of one awesome community. :-) Superb! We just spoke with Ricky in IRC so I *think* this is on its way +1 :) -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Happy 5th Birthday banner
+1 2008/9/23 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:06 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: I tried doing this myself this morning, without any luck or success. If anyone can get this banner working this morning, I'll talk to the admins about putting it up tonight. I think this should do it... Superb! We just spoke with Ricky in IRC so I *think* this is on its way to the web site, but just in case, let me make that request here... if anyone wants me to file a ticket, I'm happy to do so! Personally I would love to have this up on the site for about 15 days. A couple weeks is not too long a time to celebrate 5 years of one awesome community. :-) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, http://www.nihed.com Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa Association for Computing Machinery Member PUB 1024D/FCC5B291 2006-02-28 [expires: 2008-12-27] FPR 16A4 AC3F 0B84 B3D1 A0E5 9BCC AD13 0DAE FCC5 B291 ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: R: Re: Fixing Solar
Ok, now will be better. Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 1:55:08 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: R: Re: Fixing Solar Samuele Storari wrote: Thanks a lot I'm sorry but could I please ask that you fix your email client so it uses Re: instead of R:? It makes the mailing list hard to read! Thanks, :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
Hi Nicu, can u help me with the indexed image. On the Wiki u find the correct source file https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d4/Screen_Prompt_640x300.xcf.bz2 may u try to do some test? Thanks Samuele - Original Message - From: Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 12:56:22 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Fixing Solar Samuele Storari wrote: Anyway... I fixed Solar wall paper with a moon taken from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Full_moon.png which is public domain and is possible to use. That source should be OK. After it, I will fix also invinxible so we can leave it on wiki. Prioritize InvinXile as the last, we need Solar ASAP in a good shape for inclusion. Here https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Solar_2048x1536_v2.xcf.bz2 you can find the source correct. Step by Step i'm correctin the other format. If that makes your work easier: you don't have to provide XCFs for *all* the sizes of the wallpaper, the largest one is enough, the other are cut/resized from it. When you get to GRUB maybe try a simplified version, for the current one the white pixels (noise) do not look very good (I now, is really hard to have a good looking image with so few colors). Probably it has to be processed a bit after conversion to delete the noise. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
Samuele Storari wrote: can u help me with the indexed image. On the Wiki u find the correct source file https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d4/Screen_Prompt_640x300.xcf.bz2 may u try to do some test? While I am no expert at this, I can try. But looking at Fedora 9, I think Syslinux is able to use images with more than 16 colors (and the ThemingOverview page is obsolete about this matter - the boot splash on the LiveCD is beautiful, the one on the normal install is ugly) so the 640x480 version has to be optimised. And I will say it again: for such splashes the XCF with *all* layers is not needed, we can use the PNG wallpaper as a base and do not waste a lot of space and bandwidth. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
Samuele Storari wrote: Ok, wich format i will render? 640x480 will be good? 16bit color right? I fear we may have to go with the simplification as far as that (attached) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro inline: 640x300.png___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
So there it is... But think it would be only a lil step, after user will find the real graphic. :D I will upload your treatment of the image if u have nothing contrary Samuele - Original Message - From: Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 3:00:55 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Fixing Solar Samuele Storari wrote: Ok, wich format i will render? 640x480 will be good? 16bit color right? I fear we may have to go with the simplification as far as that (attached) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro [image/png:640x300.png] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com attachment: 640x300.png___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:24 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Hi Martin, thanks for this useful link. We (KDE SIG) are trying to use Echo theme as default for KDE but currently there are still some icons missing. We are preparing list of to-be-done icons. So can we fill it as ticket for echo-icon-theme and edit Todo on Wiki? I really like Echo theme and it's amazing work from you and Art Team! Thank you! R. I am not sure if we allowed write rights on wiki to everyone, but you can send the list, when it's done, to the art-list or make a new ticket for it, depends on what you prefer. I'll transfer it to the wiki then. Thank you as well, Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fixing Solar
Samuele Storari wrote: So there it is... But think it would be only a lil step, after user will find the real graphic. :D I will upload your treatment of the image if u have nothing contrary Or maybe someone more experienced at this can come with a better looking simplification. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 07:48 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it realistic to expect this to happen? Anything that thought to be unrealistic can happen. =) Sure, but does upstream gnome have any plans to echo-ify their icons? I think I'm on gnome-art-list and I've seen nothing there indicating this. It's not just going to happen. And I'm not sure it's a great idea. Why would they do this? Me too. I think it just don't make sense to make echo from gnome icons or the other way round. They're two different icon themes and should stay such - but compatible when it comes to metaphors. Apart from that, while gnome icon theme strives to be default icon theme gnome-wide, echo would like to be default fedora-wide (in the future). It has the caveats that we need to maintain some amount of compatibility with both gnome icon theme (gnome default) and oxygen icon theme (KDE4 default) to keep the dissonances low. Also it has the pros that we can better focus on covering fedora/redhat specific apps, like system-config-* that the other icon themes are overlooking/ignoring. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
- Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apart from that, while gnome icon theme strives to be default icon theme gnome-wide, echo would like to be default fedora-wide (in the future). It has the caveats that we need to maintain some amount of compatibility with both gnome icon theme (gnome default) and oxygen icon theme (KDE4 default) to keep the dissonances low. Also it has the pros that we can better focus on covering fedora/redhat specific apps, like system-config-* that the other icon themes are overlooking/ignoring. I like the idea of Fedora-wide icon theme and Echo icon theme. It can cover differences between Gnome KDE in the future and as you said we need it for system-configs and other Fedora related applications too. R. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 03:04 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: system-run is an action icon hence the use of table perspective following the guideline. It is derived from emblem-system, one gear is used instead of three like some other icon theme. 16x16 and 22x22 should be crisp enough. Comment welcome. Luya Reference: http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/actions/ The icon looks generally good (and crisp), but I have some comments. First the metaphor - can you try to fit there more than one gear? Or maybe you could try similar metaphor like oxygen theme uses (gear with play symbol inside). The current single gear variant looks IMHO too much like settings or something... Next is 256x256 version - you might want to redo the 3-D part to make it look more echoey. Just take the front face and redo the rest and it should be fine I think. I mostly don't like the outline around the hole and you should use 1px wide (or if it's just the outline and bellow all other objects, 2px wide because only half of the width is actually visible) semitransparent outline to keep in sync with other new icons. Finally, the shadow - in 22x22 it is too small and in 32x32 it seem a little bit off. You can use similar shadow I used for the go-* icons or the dialog-* icons. It should be possible to make the gears both smaller and still recognisable by reducing number of sprockets. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Spectrum?
Ian Weller wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:28:06PM -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: Is there a reason why Mike Langlie's Spectrum wallpaper is no longer being considered for Fedora 10? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/spectrum I was gonna complete this for Mike but I unfortunately ran out of time. :( I might repropose it for him (or make it from scratch in inkscape, hopefully) for a later version of Fedora. Or, of course, he can repropose it for then. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Sorry for the incompletion, been bludgeonably busy. Mike ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Spectrum?
2008/9/24 Mike Langlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian Weller wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 07:28:06PM -0400, William Jon McCann wrote: Is there a reason why Mike Langlie's Spectrum wallpaper is no longer being considered for Fedora 10? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/spectrum I was gonna complete this for Mike but I unfortunately ran out of time. :( I might repropose it for him (or make it from scratch in inkscape, hopefully) for a later version of Fedora. Or, of course, he can repropose it for then. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Sorry for the incompletion, been bludgeonably busy. It's to bad I have been using the original spectrum background for a while now and I really love it. I hope to see a nice professional looking full theme like it presented for F11. - David ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
F10 Default Theme clarification
In case my announcement was not the clearest in wording, Solar is in fact the winning design, and will be getting pushed further in the polish. See the numbers and results for the vote at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
Martin Sourada wrote: Apart from that, while gnome icon theme strives to be default icon theme gnome-wide, echo would like to be default fedora-wide (in the future). It has the caveats that we need to maintain some amount of compatibility with both gnome icon theme (gnome default) and oxygen icon theme (KDE4 default) to keep the dissonances low. Also it has the pros that we can better focus on covering fedora/redhat specific apps, like system-config-* that the other icon themes are overlooking/ignoring. One of the things it can help fix is gaps in the icon theme specification as well. Rahul ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] New system-run icon set
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:29 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Added a second gear. That works better. I forgot to shrink outline to 2px which has been addressed. Done for 16x16. Need to see how it looks on other screen. Might need some more touches, the other sizes are looking crisp, but the 16x16 is a little bit hard to recognise. Luya Further comments to this version: The gradients are a bit strange, I think both gears should use same gradients, rather metallic than grey. Also the side face should have different gradient - one the top of the gear it should be similarly bright as the front face I think to better follow the lighting guidelines. The connection of the two grears is a little off, it's noticeable only on the 256x256 and slightly on 48x48 version. The shadow below the second gear should be more transparent, since the gear is higher. You might want to make the top-right gear smaller than the bottom left one, I think it would look better. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Spectrum?
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 07:38:06PM +0200, David Nielsen wrote: It's to bad I have been using the original spectrum background for a while now and I really love it. I hope to see a nice professional looking full theme like it presented for F11. Yeah, I would too. I'll collaborate with Mike as necessary... hopefully I will have a bit more free time before F11. (hah, funny) -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams pgpDw5Osas8t6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 Default Theme clarification
Wow... No word left. I can't imagine so much people like solar. I'm workin til now to fix something. Tomorrow i will continue work on Solar, I think it will be ready for all not over friday. Samuele - Original Message - From: Michael Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Cc: Fedora Marketing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 7:50:08 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: F10 Default Theme clarification In case my announcement was not the clearest in wording, Solar is in fact the winning design, and will be getting pushed further in the polish. See the numbers and results for the vote at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10's official Default theme
Anoochit Chalothorn wrote: To all I like Solar so much :) I don't mean to pick on you Anoochit, but it seems like there is still some confusion despite a the art team sending out a few clarifications on the theme voting (maybe they only reached the art list): - the vote is over. - Solar won. - we are not accepting votes by email, but the vote is over anyway. - the vote was only open to art group members. So please, stop sending votes! :) The election is over. Thanks! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Fedora rawhide rebuild in mock status 2008-09-23 x86_64
Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for x86_64 using the rawhide tree of Tuesday, 2008-10-23. This is not a full rebuild of everything, merely a rebuild of packages failing to build over the last few weeks. Failures here will cause new bugzilla bugs to be created, which will block the 'F10FTBFS' bug. My hope is that we can resolve all these before the Fedora 10 Release Candidate. 122 of these failures are due to patch fuzz. Each of those should be reviewed to ensure upstream has not already fixed the problem the patch addressed, either by applying the patch or by fixing it in another way. If the problem persists, please rebase the patch to the current source code, so it applies without fuzz, and forward your patch to the upstream package maintainer. Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/ Total packages: 6191 Number failed to build: 312 Number expected to fail due to ExclusiveArch or ExcludeArch: 34 Leaving: 278 Of those expected to have worked... Without a bug filed: 275 -- KoboDeluxe-0.5.1-2.fc9 (build/make) jwrdegoede LabPlot-1.6.0.1-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) chitlesh,chitlesh,tnorth PyAmanith-0.3.35-2.fc9 (patch_fuzz) spot PyX-0.10-4.fc9 (patch_fuzz) jamatos,mpeters,jamatos PythonCard-0.8.2-1.fc10 (build/make) mmahut R-Matrix-0.999375-4.fc9 (build/make) tmoertel R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-15.fc10 (patch_fuzz) spot SimGear-1.0.0-4.fc10 (patch_fuzz) spot,bellet UnihanDb-5.1.0-4.fc10 (build/make) dchen WindowMaker-0.92.0-18.fc9 (patch_fuzz) awjb a2ps-4.14-5.fc10 (patch_fuzz) twaugh,pertusus abiword-2.6.4-7.fc10 (build/make) uwog aide-0.13.1-4 (patch_fuzz) sgrubb akode-2.0.2-5.fc9 (patch_fuzz) rdieter,tuxbrewr ale-0.9.0.1-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) silfreed alienarena-7.10-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) spot alsa-firmware-1.0.17-1.fc10 (build/make) timj amanith-0.3-9.fc9 (patch_fuzz) spot amarok-1.90-1.fc10 (build/make) abompard,rdieter,tuxbrewr anacron-2.3-61.fc10 (patch_fuzz) mmaslano archivemail-0.7.2-1.fc9 (patch_fuzz) limb ardour-2.4.1-1.fc9 (patch_fuzz) green,jwrdegoede arm-gp2x-linux-gcc-4.1.2-8.fc9 (build/make) jwrdegoede arpack-2.1-7.fc9 (build/make) athimm astyle-1.21-6.fc8 (build/make) rishi,mtasaka asylum-0.2.3-3.fc9 (build/make) mfleming audacious-plugin-fc-0.2-7 (build/make) mschwendt aumix-2.8-17.fc9 (patch_fuzz) somlo autoconf-2.62-5.fc10 (patch_fuzz) karsten automake15-1.5-23 (patch_fuzz) karsten avr-binutils-2.18-2.fc9 (patch_fuzz) tnorth,trondd avr-gcc-4.1.2-6.fc9 (build/make) tnorth,trondd axis-1.2.1-4.fc10 (build/make) pcheung azureus-3.0.4.2-16.fc10 (build/make) langel,langel bidiv-1.5-6.fc9 (build/make) danken bigboard-0.6.2-2.fc10 (build/make) walters bigloo-3.1a-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) gemi bit-0.4.1-3.fc9 (build/make) rvinyard bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10 (build/make) dwmw2,hadess bmpx-0.40.14-5.fc9 (patch_fuzz) akahl bodhi-0.5.0-7.fc9 (build/make) lmacken,toshio,timlau boost-1.34.1-16.fc10 (patch_fuzz) bkoz,pmachata brltty-3.9-2.2.fc9 (build/make) kasal bsd-games-2.17-23.fc9 (patch_fuzz) wart bwbar-1.2.3-2 (patch_fuzz) adrian cernlib-2006-30.fc10 (build/make) pertusus cernlib-g77-2006-30.fc10 (build/make) pertusus classpathx-jaf-1.0-12.fc10 (build/make) devrim compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-9 (patch_fuzz) jakub conexus-0.5.3-4.fc9 (build/make) rvinyard conexusmm-0.5.0-3.fc7 (build/make) rvinyard coolkey-1.1.0-6.fc9 (build/make) rrelyea,jmagne cpan2rpm-2.028-2.fc8.1 (build/make) ghenry,perl-sig cyphesis-0.5.16-3.fc10 (build/make) wart dia-0.96.1-6.fc10 (patch_fuzz) huzaifas,huzaifas dnssec-tools-1.4.1-2.fc10 (build/make) hardaker docbook-utils-0.6.14-14.fc10 (build/make) ovasik dosbox-0.72-4.fc9 (build/make) awjb dump-0.4b41-8.fc10 (patch_fuzz) atkac dwdiff-1.4-1.fc10 (build/make) jhrozek dx-4.4.4-6.fc10 (patch_fuzz) rathann eclipse-checkstyle-4.0.1-10.fc9 (build/make) rmyers,overholt eclipse-egit-0.3.1-0.fc9 (build/make) rmyers eclipse-gef-3.3.0-2.fc9 (build/make) overholt eclipse-mylyn-3.0.1-2.fc10 (build/make) overholt eclipse-rpm-editor-0.4.0-1.fc10 (build/make) alcapcom,overholt eclipse-subclipse-1.2.4-11.fc9 (patch_fuzz) robmv elektra-0.6.10-6.fc9 (build/make) pertusus,kwizart emacspeak-26-3.fc8 (patch_fuzz) petersen evolution-brutus-1.2.17-1.fc10 (build/make) bpepple,colding evolution-rss-0.1.1-2.fc10 (build/make) lucilanga evolution-sharp-0.17.4-3.fc10 (build/make) mbarnes expect-5.43.0-14.fc10 (patch_fuzz) vcrhonek extrema-4.3.6-1.fc10 (build/make) terjeros,mmahut fedora-ds-base-1.1.1-2.fc10 (build/make) rmeggins,nkinder,nhosoi fetchmail-6.3.8-7.fc10 (patch_fuzz) vcrhonek,pertusus firewalk-5.0-2.fc9 (build/make) sindrepb fish-1.23.0-2.fc9 (build/make) ascii,oliver fltk-1.1.8-1.fc9 (patch_fuzz) rdieter,pertusus fluxstyle-1.0.1-2.fc7 (build/make) errr fonttools-2.0-0.11.20060223cvs.fc7 (unpackaged_files/python-egg-info?) roozbeh,fonts-sig fontypython-0.2.0-6.fc7 (build/make) cr33dog,fonts-sig freefem++-2.24-2.fc9 (build/make) rathann frysk-0.4-0.fc10 (build/make) cagney,pmuldoon,swagiaal gabedit-2.1.7-1.fc10 (build/make) rathann galeon-2.0.6-1.fc10
Fedora rawhide rebuild in mock status 2008-09-23 i386
Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for i386 using the rawhide tree of Tuesday, 2008-10-23. This is not a full rebuild of everything, merely a rebuild of packages failing to build over the last few weeks. Failures here will cause new bugzilla bugs to be created, which will block the 'F10FTBFS' bug. My hope is that we can resolve all these before the Fedora 10 Release Candidate. 122 of these failures are due to patch fuzz. Each of those should be reviewed to ensure upstream has not already fixed the problem the patch addressed, either by applying the patch or by fixing it in another way. If the problem persists, please rebase the patch to the current source code, so it applies without fuzz, and forward your patch to the upstream package maintainer. Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/ Total packages: 6192 Number failed to build: 278 Number expected to fail due to ExclusiveArch or ExcludeArch: 14 Leaving: 264 Of those expected to have worked... Without a bug filed: 260 -- KoboDeluxe-0.5.1-2.fc9 (build/make) jwrdegoede LabPlot-1.6.0.1-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) chitlesh,chitlesh,tnorth PyAmanith-0.3.35-2.fc9 (patch_fuzz) spot PyX-0.10-4.fc9 (patch_fuzz) jamatos,mpeters,jamatos R-Matrix-0.999375-4.fc9 (build/make) tmoertel R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-15.fc10 (patch_fuzz) spot SimGear-1.0.0-4.fc10 (patch_fuzz) spot,bellet UnihanDb-5.1.0-4.fc10 (build/make) dchen WindowMaker-0.92.0-18.fc9 (patch_fuzz) awjb a2ps-4.14-5.fc10 (patch_fuzz) twaugh,pertusus abiword-2.6.4-7.fc10 (build/make) uwog aide-0.13.1-4 (patch_fuzz) sgrubb akode-2.0.2-5.fc9 (patch_fuzz) rdieter,tuxbrewr ale-0.9.0.1-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) silfreed alienarena-7.10-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) spot alsa-firmware-1.0.17-1.fc10 (build/make) timj amanith-0.3-9.fc9 (patch_fuzz) spot amarok-1.90-1.fc10 (build/make) abompard,rdieter,tuxbrewr anacron-2.3-61.fc10 (patch_fuzz) mmaslano archivemail-0.7.2-1.fc9 (patch_fuzz) limb ardour-2.4.1-1.fc9 (patch_fuzz) green,jwrdegoede arm-gp2x-linux-gcc-4.1.2-8.fc9 (build/make) jwrdegoede arpack-2.1-7.fc9 (build/make) athimm astyle-1.21-6.fc8 (build/make) rishi,mtasaka asylum-0.2.3-3.fc9 (build/make) mfleming atitvout-0.4-8 (patch_fuzz) awjb atlas-3.6.0-15.fc10 (build/make) deji,deji audacious-plugin-fc-0.2-7 (build/make) mschwendt aumix-2.8-17.fc9 (patch_fuzz) somlo autoconf-2.62-5.fc10 (patch_fuzz) karsten automake15-1.5-23 (patch_fuzz) karsten avr-binutils-2.18-2.fc9 (patch_fuzz) tnorth,trondd avr-gcc-4.1.2-6.fc9 (build/make) tnorth,trondd azureus-3.0.4.2-16.fc10 (build/make) langel,langel bidiv-1.5-6.fc9 (build/make) danken bigboard-0.6.2-2.fc10 (build/make) walters bigloo-3.1a-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) gemi bit-0.4.1-3.fc9 (build/make) rvinyard bluez-utils-3.36-2.fc10 (build/make) dwmw2,hadess bmpx-0.40.14-5.fc9 (patch_fuzz) akahl bodhi-0.5.0-7.fc9 (build/make) lmacken,toshio,timlau boost-1.34.1-16.fc10 (patch_fuzz) bkoz,pmachata brltty-3.9-2.2.fc9 (build/make) kasal bsd-games-2.17-23.fc9 (patch_fuzz) wart bwbar-1.2.3-2 (patch_fuzz) adrian cernlib-2006-30.fc10 (build/make) pertusus cernlib-g77-2006-30.fc10 (build/make) pertusus classpathx-jaf-1.0-12.fc10 (build/make) devrim compat-gcc-34-3.4.6-9 (patch_fuzz) jakub conexus-0.5.3-4.fc9 (build/make) rvinyard conexusmm-0.5.0-3.fc7 (build/make) rvinyard coolkey-1.1.0-6.fc9 (build/make) rrelyea,jmagne cpan2rpm-2.028-2.fc8.1 (build/make) ghenry,perl-sig cyphesis-0.5.16-3.fc10 (build/make) wart dia-0.96.1-6.fc10 (patch_fuzz) huzaifas,huzaifas dnssec-tools-1.4.1-2.fc10 (build/make) hardaker dosbox-0.72-4.fc9 (build/make) awjb dump-0.4b41-8.fc10 (patch_fuzz) atkac dwdiff-1.4-1.fc10 (build/make) jhrozek dx-4.4.4-6.fc10 (patch_fuzz) rathann eclipse-checkstyle-4.0.1-10.fc9 (build/make) rmyers,overholt eclipse-egit-0.3.1-0.fc9 (build/make) rmyers eclipse-gef-3.3.0-2.fc9 (build/make) overholt eclipse-mylyn-3.0.1-2.fc10 (build/make) overholt eclipse-rpm-editor-0.4.0-1.fc10 (build/make) alcapcom,overholt eclipse-subclipse-1.2.4-11.fc9 (patch_fuzz) robmv elektra-0.6.10-6.fc9 (build/make) pertusus,kwizart emacspeak-26-3.fc8 (patch_fuzz) petersen evolution-brutus-1.2.17-1.fc10 (build/make) bpepple,colding evolution-rss-0.1.1-2.fc10 (build/make) lucilanga evolution-sharp-0.17.4-3.fc10 (build/make) mbarnes expect-5.43.0-14.fc10 (patch_fuzz) vcrhonek extrema-4.3.6-1.fc10 (build/make) terjeros,mmahut fedora-ds-base-1.1.1-2.fc10 (build/make) rmeggins,nkinder,nhosoi fetchmail-6.3.8-7.fc10 (patch_fuzz) vcrhonek,pertusus fish-1.23.0-2.fc9 (build/make) ascii,oliver fltk-1.1.8-1.fc9 (patch_fuzz) rdieter,pertusus fluxstyle-1.0.1-2.fc7 (build/make) errr fonttools-2.0-0.11.20060223cvs.fc7 (unpackaged_files/python-egg-info?) roozbeh,fonts-sig fontypython-0.2.0-6.fc7 (build/make) cr33dog,fonts-sig freefem++-2.24-2.fc9 (build/make) rathann frysk-0.4-0.fc10 (build/make) cagney,pmuldoon,swagiaal gabedit-2.1.7-1.fc10 (build/make) rathann galeon-2.0.6-1.fc10 (patch_fuzz) denis gambas-1.0.19-6.fc9 (patch_fuzz) spot gcin-1.4.2-2.fc10 (patch_fuzz) candyz,petersen
[Bug 455647] [Indic] Firefox displays garbage Indic characters on parts of some English webpages
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455647 Karl Tomlinson (:karlt) [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flag||wanted1.9.0.x?, ||blocking1.9.1? --- Comment #14 from Karl Tomlinson (:karlt) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-09-24 20:57:32 PDT --- I think the effects of this bug are significant enough that it should be fixed for 1.9.1, and ported to 1.9.0.x after sufficient bake-time. The bug would be expected to affect users in non-Latin locales viewing pages with Latin text in a non-Latin-specific charset without any lang attribute and without any Content-Language header. Whether users see the bug depends on which Latin characters are supported in the font for their native language. Many fonts support most Latin characters, so the effects would only be seen either with fonts designed for a specific script/language or with less common (Latin-1 supplement) characters. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: Stale Fedora Hosted Projects (revisited)
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Nigel Jones wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 01:59 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Nigel Jones wrote: IIRC the GPL at least requires that the code be kept for 3 years (hence why we can't clean the look-a-side cache from memory). AFAIK that only goes to /distribution/ under GPLv2 section 3b, not the upstream SCM, but then again I'm not sure and it may be worthwhile looking into the requirements of the Licenses of the software in these SCMs. Distribution is very loose in my terms. Technically by distributing the source code, we are errr acting as a distribution point. IANAL but that's my view. Perhaps. But the GPLv2 portion that has the three year clause deals with distributing binaries. Upstream SCM would be releasing source, so that doesn't apply. If the upstream on fedorahosted was releasing binary tarballs then it might be a little greyer. Although one would hope they were releasing both binary tarballs and source tarballs. Then it would fall under a different clause with no timeframe. Given that we alone can think of a couple of arguments for or against GPL distribution for 3 years or not, and there's other licenses as well, this might be more appropriately handled by the legally literate people (no offense to you, I just know I certainly am not) -Jeroen ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Stale Fedora Hosted Projects (revisited)
Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Given that we alone can think of a couple of arguments for or against GPL distribution for 3 years or not, and there's other licenses as well, this might be more appropriately handled by the legally literate people (no offense to you, I just know I certainly am not) Definitely. Especially since the base question isn't answered: Is fedorahosted responsible for satisfying the GPL clauses or is the upstream author who is responsible for the project hosted on fedorahosted responsible. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
oVirt and xen6
Hey guys, I'm going to convert xen6 to F9 soon to do some ovirt/kvm testing. xen6 is almost dedicated to staging now, it will be before I start (need to move fas2 somewhere else). -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Stale Fedora Hosted Projects (revisited)
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Given that we alone can think of a couple of arguments for or against GPL distribution for 3 years or not, and there's other licenses as well, this might be more appropriately handled by the legally literate people (no offense to you, I just know I certainly am not) Definitely. Especially since the base question isn't answered: Is fedorahosted responsible for satisfying the GPL clauses or is the upstream author who is responsible for the project hosted on fedorahosted responsible. The note I got back from legal says that as long as our policy has been clearly stated all along (and it has) we only have that as a legal obligation which is 6 months with no changes. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: oVirt and xen6
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, seth vidal wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 12:29 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: Hey guys, I'm going to convert xen6 to F9 soon to do some ovirt/kvm testing. xen6 is almost dedicated to staging now, it will be before I start (need to move fas2 somewhere else). Does moving fas2 need a +1 to get out of the freeze? :) Not covered by the freeze :) -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Stale Fedora Hosted Projects (revisited)
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 09:43:29AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Given that we alone can think of a couple of arguments for or against GPL distribution for 3 years or not, and there's other licenses as well, this might be more appropriately handled by the legally literate people (no offense to you, I just know I certainly am not) Definitely. Especially since the base question isn't answered: Is fedorahosted responsible for satisfying the GPL clauses or is the upstream author who is responsible for the project hosted on fedorahosted responsible. IANAL, but... Whomever distributes the binaries is responsible for ensuring source is available, either concurrently (ideally)(such as GPLv2 3a), or via offer-to-provide-source-on-media (GPLv2 3b). If binaries are not distributed from fedorahosted, then fedorahosted is not responsible for providing source for any length of time. If binaries _are_ distributed from fedorahosted, e.g. compiled bits put into releases/, then I would expect fedorahosted to concurrently carry the source code used to build those binaries. Yes, this should be fedorahosted policy. It keeps us 100% out of the GPLv2 3b time bomb. I would not want to see us take on any obligation on behalf of another party to keep source available for an undetermined length of time without explicit intention to do so. fedorahosted is for source. If someone downloads that source, distributes a binary to someone and claims GPLv2 3c means that fedorahosted has to provide the source for them for 3 years, they're wrong. The three year clock is a crock. If you don't know when the last time you distributed binary under GPLv2 3b, then you can't know when the clock starts, so you can't know when the clock ends. Stay away from it. Seriously. -Matt -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Stale Fedora Hosted Projects (revisited)
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 13:36 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: Whomever distributes the binaries is responsible for ensuring source is available, either concurrently (ideally)(such as GPLv2 3a), or via offer-to-provide-source-on-media (GPLv2 3b). If binaries are not distributed from fedorahosted, then fedorahosted is not responsible for providing source for any length of time. If binaries _are_ distributed from fedorahosted, e.g. compiled bits put into releases/, then I would expect fedorahosted to concurrently carry the source code used to build those binaries. Yes, this should be fedorahosted policy. It keeps us 100% out of the GPLv2 3b time bomb. I would think of Fedorahosted just as i would think of a paid colo facility. Just because I may have offered software for download via the colo facility, and then I terminate my account (either due to ending a contract, or breach of contract) doesn't put the colo facility on the legal hook for software I may have hosted there. Same goes for Fedorahosted. We can have a clear agreement as to what would breach one's contract with Fedorahosted, and that Fedorahosted is not responsible for any legal obligations regarding source availability. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Puppet training
Well crap guys, my bad. I never finalized this and the time has come and gone.. Will next week on wed at 4:00 work for everyone still? -Mike On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Luke Macken wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 09:49:56PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: Hey guys, i think I'd like to hold puppet training next week on Wed sometime. Which would work best for you guys: 1:00 pm Chicago time 4:00 pm Chicago time. The live training will be identical to this training: http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/puppet/ But will allow for Q and A. The training at that links includes an ogg and takes about a half hour to complete at full speed though if you're new to puppet its worth it to stop in the middle and review some of the topics. If you have any questions or comments about it please let me know. The slideshow is made with openoffice and I made the ogg with audacity. My throat hurts now so I'm going to get some tea :) I'll go with the crowd and say 4:00PM but either works for me :-) Ditto. luke ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: oVirt and xen6
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I'm going to convert xen6 to F9 soon to do some ovirt/kvm testing. xen6 is almost dedicated to staging now, it will be before I start (need to move fas2 somewhere else). hm... i'm interested by your ovirt testing. Will you use the ovirt repo for that ? -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Puppet training
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well crap guys, my bad. I never finalized this and the time has come and gone.. Will next week on wed at 4:00 work for everyone still? Is still your local time or UTC ? My try: 4:00pm UTC -- 6:00pm (my local time) half-OK 4:00pm (your local time) -- 10:00pm (my local time) OK -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Puppet training
Mike McGrath wrote: Well crap guys, my bad. I never finalized this and the time has come and gone.. Will next week on wed at 4:00 work for everyone still? wfm. And this time when I think my alarm goes off an hour early, I'll remember that Chicago is two hours ahead of me, not one :-) -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Puppet training
Well crap guys, my bad. I never finalized this and the time has come and gone.. Will next week on wed at 4:00 work for everyone still? -Mike Sounds good. /paul On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Luke Macken wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 09:49:56PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Mike McGrath wrote: Hey guys, i think I'd like to hold puppet training next week on Wed sometime. Which would work best for you guys: 1:00 pm Chicago time 4:00 pm Chicago time. The live training will be identical to this training: http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/puppet/ But will allow for Q and A. The training at that links includes an ogg and takes about a half hour to complete at full speed though if you're new to puppet its worth it to stop in the middle and review some of the topics. If you have any questions or comments about it please let me know. The slideshow is made with openoffice and I made the ogg with audacity. My throat hurts now so I'm going to get some tea :) I'll go with the crowd and say 4:00PM but either works for me :-) Ditto. luke ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: oVirt and xen6
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Xavier Lamien wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I'm going to convert xen6 to F9 soon to do some ovirt/kvm testing. xen6 is almost dedicated to staging now, it will be before I start (need to move fas2 somewhere else). hm... i'm interested by your ovirt testing. Will you use the ovirt repo for that ? Yeah, I was talking to those guys and for right now they suggest just doing whats listed on the ovirt.org site. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Puppet training
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Xavier Lamien wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well crap guys, my bad. I never finalized this and the time has come and gone.. Will next week on wed at 4:00 work for everyone still? Is still your local time or UTC ? My local time. I should have listed it UTC... -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: oVirt and xen6
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Xavier Lamien wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I'm going to convert xen6 to F9 soon to do some ovirt/kvm testing. xen6 is almost dedicated to staging now, it will be before I start (need to move fas2 somewhere else). hm... i'm interested by your ovirt testing. Will you use the ovirt repo for that ? Yeah, I was talking to those guys and for right now they suggest just doing whats listed on the ovirt.org site. Ok, so feel free to reach if you have question. I already checked out their work and perform a couple of ovirt install for some intern project. -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
change request: [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]
(cc docs)
Request to change https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css to
the following:
=
.messagebox.wikicleanup {
background-image: url(/w/uploads/7/72/Wiki-cleanup-background.png);
background-repeat: repeat;
}
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Reason: to allow for [[Template:Wiki cleanup]] (a new admonition to
replace using {{admon/note}} in {{move}}, {{delete}}, etc) to stand out
from other admonitions as not being alerting to the user, but rather to
wiki gardeners.
The reason this can't be done right in the template is because MediaWiki
is very, very careful about external images (even though this one is
technically internal).
Effect on remainder of wiki/website/world: Little to none. An error
should have no effect on the rest of the style of the wiki, except for
user styles. I do not believe there to be an error in the above.
Why I'm asking: I have to wield my sysop powers on the wiki to do this,
and I just wanted to make sure it was cool (especially since we're in a
change freeze). Why I'm asking now: I'll forget later.
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Re: Making use of eject key
Matthew Flaschen wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: According to showkey -s, the key code is 0xe0 0x7d. How do I make the key usable in KDE? I don't know how to use showkey -s, but you can try xev. Run xev, press the eject button and watch for the KeyPress event. You should see: keycode ## as part of the output. After that you will see keysym , then either a symbol name or No Symbol. If you see No Symbol, create or open ~/.xmodmap in a text editor. Add the line: keycode ## = XF86Eject Now, you need to make sure: xmodmap ~/.xmodmap runs on startup. There are various ways of doing this, the simplest of which is adding a script to: ~/.kde/Autostart Once you have run xmodmap, KDE should treat it as a normal key. If a key is already assigned, you can skip this the xmodmap process. Matt Flaschen Awesome! That worked! First I thought I'd do it system-wide and placed the entry in /etc/X11/Xmodmap but apparently kdm doesn't look in there by default. At that point, I realized that I can't run a shortcut from the login window and just did it your way (except named the file ~/.Xmodmap since it seems to be the convention) Thanks Matt! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh2
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:47:26 +0200, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: roland wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:48:47 +0200, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The worrying thing is that since the sshd now asks for ssh2 protocol only, there is a new sshd operating, one you didn't install, and one which may be copying keystroke data (login names and passwords) to some unauthorized other site. I can't say that's happening, but this has all of the characteristics of that. It could also be caused by an upgrade of sshd, although I read your posts to say that only you could do that. It would be useful to use 'ps' to see which sshd is running, and to do an 'ls -l' and md5sum on the executable and post the values here. Also a telnet to the ssh port usually gives the protocol and sshd version, although that can be faked. Post that if you wish You will find it in annex Thanks again for your time From the attachment: telnet localhost 22 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. SSH-2.0-SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.5p1 That is a *very* old version of OpenSSH, nothing you got from Fedora, I believe. I think it's something which the hacker installed, and a hacked sshd would be the perfect place to capture login and password information. service sshd status As you can see it doesn't give sshd but this crazy characters, in both cases 1628 ?S 0:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@? 22871 ?S 0:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@? Just how old a Fedora do you have? This doesn't look at all as I would expect. You might do ls -lc /bin/ps and see if that was recently replaced as well. However: ls -l /usr/sbin/sshd -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 3963123 sep 16 00:03 /usr/sbin/sshd This looks as if the sshd was replaced a few days ago, shortly before your first message to the list. That makes it even more likely that passwords are being captured, perhaps even entire connect sessions. It looks as if the machine has been totally penetrated, and of course if you don't use different account names and passwords for other machines they have as well. This is an old version of redhat workstation, just before fedora was released. -r-xr-xr-x1 root root69772 feb 20 2003 /bin/ps -rw-r--r--1 root root 33 feb 26 2003 /etc/redhat-release more /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) I just wonder why this person/hacker is still trying to login with root and other names. So he must have been unsuccessful the first time. Now root login is blocked and the root passwd is changed. From what you are saying I can understand that I should reinstall the server, even if he is not successfully login in again? roland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Making use of eject key
Konstantin Svist wrote: Awesome! That worked! First I thought I'd do it system-wide and placed the entry in /etc/X11/Xmodmap but apparently kdm doesn't look in there by default. At that point, I realized that I can't run a shortcut from the login window and just did it your way (except named the file ~/.Xmodmap since it seems to be the convention) Thanks Matt! Glad to hear it worked for you. I don't believe X itself (or kdm) looks anywhere on startup. There's a script that does so, but I don't remember where it is. Regardless, keeping it in /home actually works better, for me at least. My machine is single-user, but I reinstall often and keep the same home partition. Best, Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to mount an LVM volume? (was lvm2 problem)
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 17:31:11 Eric wrote: At 10:30 AM 9/23/2008, Stuart Sears wrote: Alternatively, remove one disk, boot F9 (or FC5, really doesn't matter which!) with a rescue disc and rename the volumegroup. vgrename /dev/VolGroup00 /dev/VolGroup-F9 (or something like that - man vgrename). (although in rescue mode, this would be lvm vgrename) if you put the other disk back afterwards, the names will no longer clash Good afternoon, Stuart. I tried that and found that I can't do that with the boot drive, else it will no longer boot. I assume that I have to edit /etc/fstab and/or grub.conf and maybe some other stuff, to get it to boot. I was able to get that to work with the old FC5 drive, though, so now I can see it and mount it. So, my main problem is solved (THANKS, everybody), and all that's left is an exercise in curiosity regarding how to rename the boot drive, if I want to do that, while leaving it in a state where it will still boot. You can only do this from rescue mode, and (as you already discovered) you have to update the fstab and grub config. I also had to rebuild the initrd, IIRC, and I doubt it would hurt to do so as a precautionary measure (I did that by doing a chroot to the mounted system image). Be warned that if you forget to edit fstab first, the rescue disk won't mount your installed system, and that means you'll have to do it manually. Updating the grub config is fairly critical, but that part you can get around when you boot by editing the command line (if you forget). At least, if the boot device doesn't change, ... I had to do this yesterday, as it happens, and got it wrong (twice) before it worked, hence the caveats. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ok , I now can't figure out how to file a bugzilla report.
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 23:33 -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:26:48 -0500 Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a nutshell, what it looks like is you first say you want to submit a new report, then you select which product (Red Hat, Fedora, misc, etc..), then you select which subproduct under that. I spent a long time staring at the select product page looking for a pull down menu I could use to select the product. The rest of that page just looks like random marketingspeak text blurbs. The links to click on aren't even in the normal link color, so it is quite difficult to guess what to do until you have successfully guessed at least once. Well, I guess now you have to file two bug reports. ;) Interestingly, you *can* file a bug against Bugzilla itself. Choose New bug, then Other products, and Bugzilla is in the list. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
how mytop out the file
Hi all how mytop output the file Thank you Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Rebuilding and installing kernel
Can someone please point me to the website that has the latest and most correct procedure for buildling and installing new kernel versions from source? I have seen several versions but they are all subtly (or not so subtly) different, and usually they're for an older version or a different distro. For example, The Linux Kernel HOWTO, which one would expect to be the authoritative document, is dated in 2001. Often they contain caveats like This worked for me, I don't know if it will work for you. For example, I have found How To Compile A Kernel - The Fedora Way (http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora) that seems to be about as close to up to date as it gets, but even that one is based on Fedora Core 6 and includes the caveat ... this is the way I take. I do not issue any guarantee that this will work for you!. Back in the day we used to just pile the sources into /usr/src/linux and say make menuconfig; make; make install; make modules; make modules-install and that would sort of work, although various things that needed kernel headers to build would then start to complain. I know I can upgrade the kernel with yum, and that works well, but doesn't help me if I want to make my own kernel modifications and then reinstall everything in a way that is clean and makes sure everything is where it should be. Bottom line is, I can pick one of the ways I get with google, and hope it works, but if there is a single definitive authoritative canonical site out there that describes The Right Way, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Thanks... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Rebuilding and installing kernel
Eric wrote: Can someone please point me to the website that has the latest and most correct procedure for buildling and installing new kernel versions from source? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Fleas can be taught nearly anything that a Congressman can. -- Mark Twain pgpAa25XljhJM.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Rebuilding and installing kernel
Bottom line is, I can pick one of the ways I get with google, and hope it works, but if there is a single definitive authoritative canonical site out there that describes The Right Way, I'd appreciate hearing about it. If you are not building rpm packages of it then make oldconfig make make install should do the trick, or make cp image somewhere mkinitrd ... if you want to put the bits in defined places of your own -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora makes bad pdf files?
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:51 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: Dear Linux Using Friends: I've run into a trouble that Firefox users who print to file and create pdf output generate files that acroread cannot open. It would be bettere to install rpm cups-pdf and then print to the printer: Cups-Pdf. My teaching assistant first discovered this while browsing the web. A variety of pdf created by print to file were viewable in evince, but not acrobat. SInce most students are using acrobat on Windows or Macintosh, this created a problem. In my Ubunutu Linux (Hardy Herron) system, the error message I see when I try to open the file is There was an error processing a page. Error while parsing a Form, Type 3 font, or Pattern. I have not seen the Microsoft Acroboat error with my own eyes, but the students complain it says not a valid pdf file. In one example, the error says Adobe Reader could not open 'file.pdf' because it is either not a supported file type or becausethefile has been damaged (for example, it was sent as an email attachment and wasn't correctly decoded). However, the EXACT same file can be viewed with Evince: http://pj.freefaculty.org/linux/file.pdf I'm posting a copy of a bad pdf file that was created by opening it in acrobat reader, and using save-a-copy: http://pj.freefaculty.org/linux/4145321-corrupt.pdf Sometimes I've had luck converting files pdf to ps and pack to pdf with pdftops and ps2pdf14, but it does not always work. The end result has some of the heading fonts that are legible, but there are just fuzzy blocks where the actual text is supposed to be. I have seen the same problem happen when users open a pdf file in Firefox, which then opens the Acrobat for Linux plugin, and when the save as option is used, it creates an illegible pdf. I'm quite baffled why that happens, because so far as I can tell, the pdf that was saved should not be changed by acrobat reader. If you have any ideas, please let me know. -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas -- === You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
LVM Question
I performed an extend (lvextend) on a file system that was running out of space. All of the return codes and messages showed a good completion. However, when I did a display on the file system (df -m /work) it didn't show that the file system had been extended. The first display command was: lvdisplay /dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 And it return the following messages: --- Logical volume --- LV Name/dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 VG NameDataVG00 LV UUIDhU4l3x-QLGB-Bcat-rFo3-V7Oo-uKDT-1d1od9 LV Write Accessread/write LV Status available # open 1 LV Size46.00 GB Current LE 1472 Segments 3 Allocation inherit Read ahead sectors 0 Block device 253:16 The second display command was: df -m /work And it returned the following message: Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/DataVG00-DataLV01 31742 20998 9107 70% /work Should I be concerned? What can I do to make the available space show up? I've even re-booted the machine before I drafted the message. TIA Gene Poole -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LVM Question
Hello, On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Gene Poole wrote: I performed an extend (lvextend) on a file system that was running out of space. All of the return codes and messages showed a good completion. However, when I did a display on the file system (df -m /work) it didn't show that the file system had been extended. lvextend extends the underlying block device. It does not resize the filesystem. You will need to resize the file-system. Assuming that you are using ext2/3, this would be the following sequence of commands: umount /work e2fsck -f /dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 resize2fs /dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 mount /work Regards, Kapil. -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how mytop out the file
adrian kok wrote: Hi all how mytop output the file Thank you Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Check out the man page and look for option -b. It actually says to capture the information into a file for later viewing. Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LVM Question
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 19:20 +0530, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: Hello, On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Gene Poole wrote: I performed an extend (lvextend) on a file system that was running out of space. All of the return codes and messages showed a good completion. However, when I did a display on the file system (df -m /work) it didn't show that the file system had been extended. lvextend extends the underlying block device. It does not resize the filesystem. You will need to resize the file-system. Assuming that you are using ext2/3, this would be the following sequence of commands: umount /work e2fsck -f /dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 resize2fs /dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 mount /work Actually, we've had online growing available for ext3 for quite some time. Presuming it's an ext3 filesystem, you can just do: resize2fs /dev/DataVG00/DataLV01 HTH, --Rob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kernel source.
On 23/09/08 00:58, Phil Meyer wrote: Erik P. Olsen wrote: I need to view the kernel source of fedora 10. Is there a way to do that? Same as always: (works for all recent Fedora/RH/Centos/Oracle based distros) # = root or sudo $ = you 1. # yum install yumutils rpmdevtools (you may also need sparse, and others) 1.a $ /usr/bin/rpmdev-setuptree 2. # yumdownloader --source kernel 3. $ rpm -ihv kernel-whatever was just downloaded.rpm 4. $ cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS 5. $ rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec (additional dependencies, if any, will be listed here) 6. $ cd ../BUILD/kernel-2.6.?? Thanks a lot. Only extra thing I had to do was to enable fedora-developemnt.repo. -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kernel source.
On 23/09/08 01:54, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:58 -0600, Phil Meyer wrote: Erik P. Olsen wrote: I need to view the kernel source of fedora 10. Is there a way to do that? Same as always: (works for all recent Fedora/RH/Centos/Oracle based distros) # = root or sudo $ = you 1. # yum install yumutils rpmdevtools (you may also need sparse, and others) 1.a $ /usr/bin/rpmdev-setuptree 2. # yumdownloader --source kernel 3. $ rpm -ihv kernel-whatever was just downloaded.rpm 4. $ cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS 5. $ rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec (additional dependencies, if any, will be listed here) 6. $ cd ../BUILD/kernel-2.6.?? There you are! Good Luck! First, you don't need to be -- and probably *shouldn't* be -- root when you do anything other than run yum or other admin utilities. Also, keep in mind that if you're not *running* Rawhide, to get the latest kernel you need to enable that repo. Might I suggest these alternate steps? $ su -c 'yum install yum-utils rpmdevtools' $ rpmdev-setuptree $ yumdownloader --enablerepo=rawhide --source kernel $ rpm -ivh kernel-blah.src.rpm $ su -c 'yum-builddep kernel-blah.src.rpm' $ rpmbuild -bp ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec $ cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-* Thanks for helping. yumdownloader didn't like the --enablerepo=rawhide, however I did enable it in the repo and then I had no problem retrieving the kernel. -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Forwarding not work in FC9 but ip forward is turn on
I need to access my LAN to the Internet but I can only do that from the hosts directly connected to the router zyxell (including FC), but not from my other LANS :( Please I need your support and thank you very much in advance!! This sounds like you don't have sufficient routing tables set up, its impossible to even speculate on your actual problems as you give so little precise information. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Important Check this out
Kernel bug, click below and read. http://blog.mandriva.com/2008/09/23/urgent-notification-major-bug-in-all-mandriva-linux-2009-pre-releases/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why is Firefox such a beast??
I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the differences differ, too. The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too fast even to identify. Then it will either all go away, or I'll get a lasting window telling me it's already running but not responding. Sometimes after that Firefox will actually launch, sometimes not. If not, sometimes clicking the launcher again will bring it up; sometimes it comes up double, or even with two different sessions -- and shutting either will usually shut both. Other times it helps to do ps ax| grep firefox, find one or several pids with question marks, kill them, and start over. It is consistently worse on some machines than others -- but not, afaict, on F8 more than F9 or vice versa, nor with Ffx 2 more or less than the other. I try to keep it as nearly standardized as I can. The best way is to add FEBE to any new install of Firefox, and then copy in a FEBE folder by scp or sneakermail, and run a restore. But I have one machine (a Dell Poweredge SC 1420, formerly the server for a private list, and not yet fully wiped) which refuses adamantly to read media or to do scp; so there are hardly any extensions on its Ffx -- and it works better. Are there extensions that Fedora will allow but not get along with, or that don't get along with Fedora? Do I have too many? (The latest FEBE restore tab listed 79 items.) Or what? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No kmod-ndiswrapper for 2.6.26.3 ?
I can't seem to find a kmod-ndiswrapper for kernel 2.6.26.3. Am I missing something ? yum list kernel Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit Installed Packages kernel.i686 2.6.25.11-97.fc9 installed kernel.i686 2.6.25.14-108.fc9 installed kernel.i686 2.6.26.3-29.fc9 installed yum list kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.26* Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit Error: No matching Packages to list Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No kmod-ndiswrapper for 2.6.26.3 ?
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 08:42 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I can't seem to find a kmod-ndiswrapper for kernel 2.6.26.3. Am I missing something ? The livna buildsystem is down. You can try installing akmod-ndiswrapper (if it exists) which should automagically build a kmod-ndiswrapper for your current kernel. Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Hi, I have a broken solid state disk, in facts badblocks has found about a hundred of damaged blocks. The most shortcoming is that I have lost the partition table too, and I suspect that some bad blocks are in relation with the partition table data since testdisk can not write the recovered partition table to the disk. Now, I need to rescue a 10 GB ext3 partition (that is the last one on device). So, I would like to use dd (or dd_rescue) to physically transfer the partition in a file on an ext3 USB disk, and then mount the file as an ext3 partition (like an iso file by means of loopback device, is it possible ? how ?). Since I am poor experienced with the CHS and LBA notations, someone can me confirm this: testdisk signals that the partition begins at 6403, 1 ,1 and ends at 7798, 254, 63 in CHS notation. Since the disk has 255 heads and 63 sectors, the corrispective LBA addresses would be 102864258 and 125290810, isn't it ? And, what of these data can I pass to dd (or dd_rescue) in order to transfer the partition ? Or can you suggest a better way to rescue the partition ? Thanks in advance, Andrea -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 15:03 +, Beartooth wrote: I try to keep it as nearly standardized as I can. The best way is to add FEBE to any new install of Firefox, and then copy in a FEBE folder by scp or sneakermail, and run a restore. What's FEBE? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Andrea Mastellone wrote: Hi, I have a broken solid state disk, in facts badblocks has found about a hundred of damaged blocks. The most shortcoming is that I have lost the partition table too, and I suspect that some bad blocks are in relation with the partition table data since testdisk can not write the recovered partition table to the disk. Now, I need to rescue a 10 GB ext3 partition (that is the last one on device). So, I would like to use dd (or dd_rescue) to physically transfer the partition in a file on an ext3 USB disk, and then mount the file as an ext3 partition (like an iso file by means of loopback device, is it possible ? how ?). Since I am poor experienced with the CHS and LBA notations, someone can me confirm this: testdisk signals that the partition begins at 6403, 1 ,1 and ends at 7798, 254, 63 in CHS notation. Since the disk has 255 heads and 63 sectors, the corrispective LBA addresses would be 102864258 and 125290810, isn't it ? And, what of these data can I pass to dd (or dd_rescue) in order to transfer the partition ? Or can you suggest a better way to rescue the partition ? Thanks in advance, Andrea You can not loopback mount then entire drive. But you can mount a partition as long as you know the offset to it using the offset option when loop mounting. Read the loop mount options in the mount man page. Once you use dd-rescue to make an image file of the drive, you should be able to use all the same tools on the image file as you would on the drive itself. Now, if anyone know how to generate the partition devices from an image file, so you could mount the different partitions without using the offset option of loop mounting, I would love to hear about it. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh2
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:04 AM, roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wonder why this person/hacker is still trying to login with root and other names. So he must have been unsuccessful the first time. Now root login is blocked and the root passwd is changed. From what you are saying I can understand that I should reinstall the server, even if he is not successfully login in again? If the root password is changed once again, then it's clear someone is mocking you. Just unplug that system already and reinstall. Upgrade to a more recent OS if you can. Go CentOS if Fedora is too hard for you. But more importantly learn about tcpwrappers and system security otherwise it does not matter what effort you put into this thing. You must learn on your own. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 10:55 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: snip You can not loopback mount then entire drive. But you can mount a partition as long as you know the offset to it using the offset option when loop mounting. Read the loop mount options in the mount man page. Once you use dd-rescue to make an image file of the drive, you should be able to use all the same tools on the image file as you would on the drive itself. Now, if anyone know how to generate the partition devices from an image file, so you could mount the different partitions without using the offset option of loop mounting, I would love to hear about it. I believe you can use losetup for specifying the offset. Mikkel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 15:03 +, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the differences differ, too. The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too fast even to identify. slow startup is because Firefox looks at all installed extensions to determine whether an update is available and then Firefox looks to see if a newer version of Firefox is available. The more extensions, the longer the startup delay. You can configure this... Firefox = Edit (menu) = Preferences = Advanced (tab) = Update (tab) Then it will either all go away, or I'll get a lasting window telling me it's already running but not responding. Sometimes after that Firefox will actually launch, sometimes not. If not, sometimes clicking the launcher again will bring it up; sometimes it comes up double, or even with two different sessions -- and shutting either will usually shut both. Other times it helps to do ps ax| grep firefox, find one or several pids with question marks, kill them, and start over. Firefox creates a 'lock' file - in .mozilla/firefox/$YOUR_SALTED_PROFILE/.parentlock which is intended to prevent multiple launches. Multiple launches often occur when double clicking to start from a launcher rather than a single click or 4 clicks when a double click is sufficient. I run into this far too often because I sysadmin a network with a lot of less skilled computer users. This should probably be improved because the cure seems to be as bad as the problem. It is consistently worse on some machines than others -- but not, afaict, on F8 more than F9 or vice versa, nor with Ffx 2 more or less than the other. I try to keep it as nearly standardized as I can. The best way is to add FEBE to any new install of Firefox, and then copy in a FEBE folder by scp or sneakermail, and run a restore. pardon my ignorance, what is FEBE ? But I have one machine (a Dell Poweredge SC 1420, formerly the server for a private list, and not yet fully wiped) which refuses adamantly to read media or to do scp; so there are hardly any extensions on its Ffx -- and it works better. Are there extensions that Fedora will allow but not get along with, or that don't get along with Fedora? Do I have too many? (The latest FEBE restore tab listed 79 items.) Or what? I find all of the language extensions to be pointless for my usage but I can't tell if it's because my system/profile has existed for quite some time and has been upgraded from like FC-4, FC-5, etc. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade files ( rpm ) for FC9 System
Jonathan Underwood wrote: 2008/9/15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Where can we d/l the fixed files ( rpm ) as the title ? Thanks ! Edward. Dear All, Sorry, it is for FC9 System, thanks ! Many Thanks ! Edward. https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Enabling_new_signing_key Hello, Sorry, I want to know where can we d/l any updated ( fixed ) rpm files for appling the Linux System... Thanks ! Edward. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Newbie Help With Fedora 9 installation
Problem still exists... This time i even downloaded it onto an NTFS drive and burned it...thats the 3rd DVD. I have Fedora 7 installedis that a problem?? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:45 AM, E. H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Kam Leo, I have already downloaded the DVD ISO again and verified the file with the SHA1 checksum calculator mentioned in the Read ME file. The CheckSum matches...But had to go leave for work.. once i get back...let me see how the installation goes. Thanks for the links. @ Armin, Thanks...that is almost the same procedure i followed when i did the Fedora 7 installation. I wanted to upgrade it to fedora 9. This is the first time i am facing problems with installing fedora. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Armin Moradi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, E.H [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks for replying Aldo and Armin. Yes i am downloading from a windows system. I was downloading to a logical drive with a FAT32 file system... I went through the documentation again.. So i guess that must be the problem. Apparently downloading to an NTFS filesystem doesn't seem to have that problem. Will try that. I just need a back up copy of the entire dvd anyway. so i would have to download the file again. I 've burnt that corrupted file on 2 DVDs already :) Thanks for the help, guys. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Armin Moradi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM, E.H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I downloaded a Fedora 9 i386 DVD ISO file using utorrent , so i hear downloading through utorrent ensures the integrity of the file. I burnt the image on a DVD at 4x speed and did the media check. All is fine. But there is another screen saying test for additional media or something like that which has two options TEST and CONTINUE Continue gives an error and clicking on TEST gives a message saying checksum not found. what is wrong? The Documentation says the ISO is supposed to work... Are you using bittorrent from a Windows PC? There may be issues downloading ISO images larger than 2GB. Try the instructions here and see whether you can install directly from a fedora web site. http://fedorasolved.org/Members/opsec/fedora-netinstall First download the Rescue CD, which smaller size that a full DVD ISO. Alternatively, download the CD ISO images directly from here: http://fedora.inode.at/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/iso/ HTH, and enjoy using Fedora. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Or you can just download the livecd and install from there, it will give you essentially the same thing, and you don't have to take your time to download a big iso file! -- Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good thoughts, Good words, Good deeds Zarathustra -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines What I would do for installing Fedora on my computer: I would partition my HD and delete the partition so it leaves a free space (not formatted). The I would get a copy of the livecd and burn it (or put it on a USB disk) and boot from it. In the installation, I would choose guided partitioning. the guided partitioning makes it quite painless :) -- Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good thoughts, Good words, Good deeds Zarathustra -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Important Check this out
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kernel bug, click below and read. http://blog.mandriva.com/2008/09/23/urgent-notification-major-bug-in-all-mandriva-linux-2009-pre-releases/ I hate playing Fllow this URL. Get to the point and provide a synopsis. If this has to do with a kernel update breaking Intel chipset internet interfaces then say so. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Hello, On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Now, if anyone know how to generate the partition devices from an image file, so you could mount the different partitions without using the offset option of loop mounting, I would love to hear about it. I think kpartx can do something like what you want but it needs a working partition table. Regards, Kapil. -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 15:03 +, Beartooth wrote: I try to keep it as nearly standardized as I can. The best way is to add FEBE to any new install of Firefox, and then copy in a FEBE folder by scp or sneakermail, and run a restore. What's FEBE? poc FEBE is another Addonf for backing up firefox settings, extension info, etc. Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Live USB?
Chris Snook wrote: Knute Johnson wrote: Chris Snook wrote: Knute Johnson wrote: If I put the live CD on USB with live-usb creator can I not update it? I just get a boatload of errors. With liveUSB, the original image is static, and any changes to files in the image must go in the overlay space, so you'll need a big USB stick and a lot of overlay space to do this. -- Chris I have 4GB stick and I set the max (2047mb) for persistent space. The live image is compressed, but the files in the overlay are not. You may be running out of overlay space. What errors are you getting? -- Chris It won't boot anymore. Says there is an error in intramfs. Apparently you can't update it. Thanks, -- Knute Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Important Check this out
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Kam Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate playing Fllow this URL. Get to the point and provide a synopsis. If this has to do with a kernel update breaking Intel chipset internet interfaces then say so. I skimmed it for you. The e1000e module in kernel 2.6.27 contains a bad bug that can corrupt EEPROM. I think the latest F9 updates are kernel 2.6.26, so it's not a Fedora issue at present. Move along. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Newbie Help With Fedora 9 installation
alright.am gonna try downloading a live CD On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:52 PM, E. H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem still exists... This time i even downloaded it onto an NTFS drive and burned it...thats the 3rd DVD. I have Fedora 7 installedis that a problem?? On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:45 AM, E. H [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks Kam Leo, I have already downloaded the DVD ISO again and verified the file with the SHA1 checksum calculator mentioned in the Read ME file. The CheckSum matches...But had to go leave for work.. once i get back...let me see how the installation goes. Thanks for the links. @ Armin, Thanks...that is almost the same procedure i followed when i did the Fedora 7 installation. I wanted to upgrade it to fedora 9. This is the first time i am facing problems with installing fedora. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Armin Moradi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:25 PM, E.H [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks for replying Aldo and Armin. Yes i am downloading from a windows system. I was downloading to a logical drive with a FAT32 file system... I went through the documentation again.. So i guess that must be the problem. Apparently downloading to an NTFS filesystem doesn't seem to have that problem. Will try that. I just need a back up copy of the entire dvd anyway. so i would have to download the file again. I 've burnt that corrupted file on 2 DVDs already :) Thanks for the help, guys. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Armin Moradi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM, E.H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I downloaded a Fedora 9 i386 DVD ISO file using utorrent , so i hear downloading through utorrent ensures the integrity of the file. I burnt the image on a DVD at 4x speed and did the media check. All is fine. But there is another screen saying test for additional media or something like that which has two options TEST and CONTINUE Continue gives an error and clicking on TEST gives a message saying checksum not found. what is wrong? The Documentation says the ISO is supposed to work... Are you using bittorrent from a Windows PC? There may be issues downloading ISO images larger than 2GB. Try the instructions here and see whether you can install directly from a fedora web site. http://fedorasolved.org/Members/opsec/fedora-netinstall First download the Rescue CD, which smaller size that a full DVD ISO. Alternatively, download the CD ISO images directly from here: http://fedora.inode.at/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/i386/iso/ HTH, and enjoy using Fedora. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Or you can just download the livecd and install from there, it will give you essentially the same thing, and you don't have to take your time to download a big iso file! -- Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good thoughts, Good words, Good deeds Zarathustra -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines What I would do for installing Fedora on my computer: I would partition my HD and delete the partition so it leaves a free space (not formatted). The I would get a copy of the livecd and burn it (or put it on a USB disk) and boot from it. In the installation, I would choose guided partitioning. the guided partitioning makes it quite painless :) -- Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good thoughts, Good words, Good deeds Zarathustra -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Important Check this out
Alan Evans wrote, On 09/24/2008 12:31 PM: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Kam Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate playing Fllow this URL. Get to the point and provide a synopsis. If this has to do with a kernel update breaking Intel chipset internet interfaces then say so. I skimmed it for you. The e1000e module in kernel 2.6.27 contains a bad bug that can corrupt EEPROM. I think the latest F9 updates are kernel 2.6.26, so it's not a Fedora issue at present. Move along. However, if you are on F10, or rolling your own kernel... it might make for a good read. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459202 http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11382 http://lwn.net/Articles/299787/ pay special attention to this comment: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=459202#c5 -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Software: Shoe Design CAD
Does anybody know any linux friendly shoe design software? I know some like sipeco and romans cad, but I want an open source alternative. Thanks in advance for any replies -- Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ # Móvil +52 (33) 1051-0943 # Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=674792460 # introbella (band) http://www.introbella.com/ # Smolt uuid (pub_3e18efc2-dee4-459f-8d40-ddf489be817d) http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_3e18efc2-dee4-459f-8d40-ddf489be817d -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Software: Barcode printing
Anybody knows any barcode label printing program available in fedora? -- Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ # Móvil +52 (33) 1051-0943 # Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=674792460 # introbella (band) http://www.introbella.com/ # Smolt uuid (pub_3e18efc2-dee4-459f-8d40-ddf489be817d) http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_3e18efc2-dee4-459f-8d40-ddf489be817d -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Software: Barcode printing
Renich Bon Ciric wrote, On 09/24/2008 12:41 PM: Anybody knows any barcode label printing program available in fedora? TeX using: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-barcode/ Probably not exceptionally user friendly, but it exists. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Software: Barcode printing
Renich Bon Ciric írta: Anybody knows any barcode label printing program available in fedora? GNU Barcode is in Fedora, it produces EP and EPS files that are printable. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Andrea Mastellone wrote, On 09/24/2008 11:12 AM: Hi, I have a broken solid state disk, in facts badblocks has found about a hundred of damaged blocks. The most shortcoming is that I have lost the partition table too, and I suspect that some bad blocks are in relation with the partition table data since testdisk can not write the recovered partition table to the disk. Now, I need to rescue a 10 GB ext3 partition (that is the last one on device). So, I would like to use dd (or dd_rescue) to physically transfer the partition in a file on an ext3 USB disk, and then mount the file as an ext3 partition (like an iso file by means of loopback device, is it possible ? how ?). Since I am poor experienced with the CHS and LBA notations, someone can me confirm this: testdisk signals that the partition begins at 6403, 1 ,1 and ends at 7798, 254, 63 in CHS notation. Since the disk has 255 heads and 63 sectors, the corrispective LBA addresses would be 102864258 and 125290810, isn't it ? And, what of these data can I pass to dd (or dd_rescue) in order to transfer the partition ? Or can you suggest a better way to rescue the partition ? Thanks in advance, Andrea If I were in your situation and had enough GB on a spare disk to hold the whole SSD, I would do something like the following: dd if=/dev/whole_solid_state_disk \ of=/path/to/spareGB/SSD.image \ conv=noerror bs=512 And then I MIGHT try some tricks to find the ext3 super blocks of the image, and/or dd about the last 10GB out of the image as a second image to do e2fsck's and loop mounting on. if I had less space (and no time to buy an extra USB hard drive) and could translate the CHS to bytes/blocks of disk space, I would do something like: assume 512 blocks, and HeadSector size of 7697074bytes bc of 7697074*6402/512 yields 96243491 which is probably completely wrong. (is this roughly a 55GB device?) dd if=/dev/whole_solid_state_disk \ of=/path/to/spare11GB/SSD.image \ seek=96243491 conv=noerror bs=512 And remember, the device is already failing... you MIGHT only get one more read, so take that into consideration when choosing the method for getting the image. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nvidia Fc9 dependency issues
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM, abhishek rane [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: A Fedora 9 user I am getting a dependency issue while installing nvidia drivers from livna. Any help? akmod-nvidia doesn't seem to work either it says nvidia.ko not found (while booting up) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# uname -r 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.i686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum --disablerepo=freshrpms install kmod-nvidia Loaded plugins: changelog, presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata No Presto metadata available for kde No Presto metadata available for kde-testing No Presto metadata available for livna No Presto metadata available for kde-unstable No Presto metadata available for fedora No Presto metadata available for kde-all No Presto metadata available for kde-testing-all No Presto metadata available for adobe-linux-i386 No Presto metadata available for updates-newkey No Presto metadata available for fedora-debuginfo No Presto metadata available for kde-unstable-all No Presto metadata available for updates Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package kmod-nvidia.i686 0:173.14.12-3.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 = 173.14.12-3.lvn9 for package: kmod-nvidia -- Running transaction check --- Package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.i686 0:173.14.12-3.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 for package: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 -- Processing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common = 173.14.12 for package: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 -- Running transaction check --- Package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.i686 0:173.14.12-3.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 for package: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 --- Package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.i386 0:173.14.12-1.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs = 173.14.12-1.lvn9 for package: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia -- Running transaction check --- Package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686.i686 0:173.14.12-3.lvn9 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 for package: kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 --- Package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i386 0:173.14.12-1.lvn9 set to be updated -- Finished Dependency Resolution kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686-173.14.12-3.lvn9.i686 from livna has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686-173.14.12-3.lvn9.i686 (livna) Error: Missing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 is needed by package kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686-173.14.12-3.lvn9.i686 (livna) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum repolist Loaded plugins: changelog, presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata No Presto metadata available for kde No Presto metadata available for kde-testing No Presto metadata available for livna No Presto metadata available for kde-unstable No Presto metadata available for fedora No Presto metadata available for kde-all No Presto metadata available for kde-testing-all No Presto metadata available for adobe-linux-i386 No Presto metadata available for updates-newkey No Presto metadata available for fedora-debuginfo No Presto metadata available for kde-unstable-all No Presto metadata available for updates No Presto metadata available for freshrpms repo id repo namestatus adobe-linux-i386 Adobe Systems Incorporated enabled : 17 fedora Fedora 9 - i386 enabled : 9,897 fedora-debuginfo Fedora 9 - i386 - Debug enabled : 3,630 freshrpmsFreshRPMs for Fedora Core 9 - i386 enabled : 147 kde kde enabled : 0 kde-all kde-all enabled : 478 kde-testing kde-testing enabled : 0 kde-testing-all kde-testing-all enabled : 1 kde-unstable kde-unstable enabled : 39 kde-unstable-all kde-redhat-unstable-all enabled : 33 livnaLivna for Fedora Core 9 - i386 - Baseenabled : 788 updates Fedora 9 - i386 - Updatesenabled : 10 updates-newkey Fedora 9 - i386 - Updates Newkey enabled : 3,951 repolist: 18,991 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Solved http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2008/09/18/fedora-9-update-and-nvidia-update/ thanks to asphyxia -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:
Re: Software: Barcode printing
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:41 -0500, Renich Bon Ciric wrote: Anybody knows any barcode label printing program available in fedora? glabels can do some types of barcodes, and has a nice GUI if you're looking for an interactive program. You can lay out a label (or page, or business card, or whatever) and include data from a CSV file (book titles and library serial numbers, for example). -Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to recover an integer ext3 partition from a disk with a damaged partition table ?
Warren Sturm wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 10:55 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: snip You can not loopback mount then entire drive. But you can mount a partition as long as you know the offset to it using the offset option when loop mounting. Read the loop mount options in the mount man page. Once you use dd-rescue to make an image file of the drive, you should be able to use all the same tools on the image file as you would on the drive itself. Now, if anyone know how to generate the partition devices from an image file, so you could mount the different partitions without using the offset option of loop mounting, I would love to hear about it. I believe you can use losetup for specifying the offset. Thanks, but that is not what I am after. (I talked about the offset option of loop mounts as part of my answer.) What I would like to know about is how to create the equivalent of /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc from an image file.The image file is equivalent to /dev/sda. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
more server upgrades.
Guy Just to let you know that I plan on replacing Donlin with the new server tonight, and if I finish testing I also plan on replacing the web server. Because Donlin is a physical swap I will be in Doncaster in the morning just in case of problems. The web server I can manage from anywhere as there is no physical swap to take place. Gary -- Gary Stainburn This email does not contain private or confidential material as it may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown and undisclosed purposes - Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
