Re: Confusion with openal-soft
Adam Williamson wrote: It's usually possible to have the devel packages co-exist by renaming the new library (make it libopenal-soft.so). This may require a small patch to any app you want to build against the new version (make it look for libopenal-soft instead of just libopenal), but I think this is preferable to conflicting -devel packages. Right, see also the hackery we do to allow kdelibs-devel and kdelibs3-devel to coexist. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Confusion with openal-soft
Jochen Schmitt wrote: Pushing openal-soft info F-11/F-10 is a violation of the Fedora updating policy. It's not. It's entirely acceptable to bump a soname if there's a good reason to and dependent packages WILL have to get rebuilt. It would be impossible to update something like xulrunner for security fixes otherwise. That said, in this case, IMHO there are too many dependent packages to force such a global rebuild. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
Jindrich Novy wrote: Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries. Wouldn't texlive-csplain-libs or texlive-csplain-bin be more compliant to our guidelines? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
Michael Schwendt wrote: Indeed. A single tomboy build obsoleted more than a dozen Mono packages and actually got marked stable sometimes later without anyone adding a comment. I'd blame the tomboy maintainer for the chaos there. Before you push an update to a package, you MUST check for previous updates for the package (possibly filed by somebody else, Bodhi will NOT mail you about them, even if you are the maintainer!), and if it's a grouped update, you CANNOT push a new update for your package, you MUST get it updated in the group instead. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: TeX Live 2009 for Fedora
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:10 +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 04:48:49PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
It seems your spec making program has some bugs, as some packages have
names such as texlive-csplain.ARCH, this probably shouldn't be..?
Nope, it is intentional. It is needed to somehow distinguish the
noarch and arch-dependent part. So package texlive-csplain contains
the noarch bits and texlive-csplain.ARCH ships the binaries.
Wouldn't it be better to have texlive-csplain%{_isa} shipping the arch
dependent bits and a texlive-csplain-common.noarch shipping the arch
independent stuff? That would be more in line with other packages.
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Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: 238Can libvdpau go in Fedora? As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a dependency to the properitary nVidia video driver which is provides by rpmfusion.org. For this reason I vote agains the inclusion of this package into Fedora because I introduce a requirement reference to a third-party repository. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Multiline values in bodhi.template
I'm believe before this works fine, but now I try put multiline comment into notes field like: # Description of your update notes=- New version. - Name directory in tarball sim instead of trunk. - Step to lzma source packaging. - For BUG#478341 fixing add R kdebase3-libs and got error: [pa...@x-www F-10]$ make update Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/bodhi, line 322, in module main() File /usr/bin/bodhi, line 129, in main updates = bodhi.parse_file(input_file=opts.input_file) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/fedora/client/bodhi.py, line 276, in parse_file config.readfp(template_file) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/iniparse/compat.py, line 115, in readfp self.data._readfp(fp) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/iniparse/ini.py, line 629, in _readfp raise exc ConfigParser.ParsingError: File contains parsing errors: bodhi.template [line 14]: - New version. [line 15]: - Name directory in tarball sim instead of trunk. [line 16]: - Step to lzma source packaging. [line 17]: - For BUG#478341 fixing add R kdebase3-libs Why? Can I provide multiline notes at all? How? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
Picked up: 1. gquilt 2. quilt Co-maintainers are welcome. Thanks and Regards, Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:39 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a dependency to the properitary nVidia video driver which is provides by rpmfusion.org. For this reason I vote agains the inclusion of this package into Fedora because I introduce a requirement reference to a third-party repository. I think there's precedents for accepting it for Fedora: - libXNVCtrl, another X extension library that happens to only do anything when the user is running the nvidia binary driver, but which is itself MIT-licensed. - gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux, which allows you to separate the audio and video streams from MPEG files, even though the decoding itself is off-limits for Fedora It happens that only nvidia implements VDPAU at the moment, but so what? Any other vendor could too. - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On 08/20/2009 10:10 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: Apologies for the late agenda, I completely blanked out today :(. The following are the topics for tomorrow's meeting at 17:00UTC on #fedora-meeting on freenode: 244 Reconsider Moblin Feature for Fedora 12 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. I'm pretty sure there are several Fedora Packaging Committee items waiting to be ratified. I think there are at least two tickets still open in Traac. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 21.08.2009 15:57, schrieb Adam Jackson: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:39 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: 238Can libvdpau go in Fedora? As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a dependency to the properitary nVidia video driver which is provides by rpmfusion.org. For this reason I vote agains the inclusion of this package into Fedora because I introduce a requirement reference to a third-party repository. I think there's precedents for accepting it for Fedora: - libXNVCtrl, another X extension library that happens to only do anything when the user is running the nvidia binary driver, but which is itself MIT-licensed. - gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux, which allows you to separate the audio and video streams from MPEG files, even though the decoding itself is off-limits for Fedora - From my point of view. This cases demostrate, that we need a clarification about the requirements which a package has to fullfill for inclusssion into Fedora. Package which are only useable if you have installed a package which is not part of Fedora may not allow for Fedora. This is the argument why we not contributes eumulators. In common emulators requires special ROM images which contains copyright content. It happens that only nvidia implements VDPAU at the moment, but so what? Any other vendor could too. - A made dicision may not be valid forever. If we will have got a opensource package which allow the usage of vdpau with the close source driver from nvidia we can change this dicision. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAkqOrqYACgkQZLAIBz9lVu8IPQP/URKbZwLWz86b6y+8mRJtNv61 sUhgpY8pXQ1ztvf1HKVL2gdj6QnVuzFS6wb4x3UN3UTpErDZaF5x6galuS1zJOOo 5+iSjtkVdxDr12CQTEUT7+weKYTGxw3Vg2cFNzH4j3GkQzo8vxm2DJCDEwXvyZ3Q K8WjxvoHRS/LUXQn5pM= =8/2F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Audacious 2.1 coming - SONAME change
On 07/16/2009 02:30 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Audacious 2.1 is going to land in Rawhide soon. src.rpm updates have been comitted to Fedora package cvs/devel already. Compared with 1.5.1 this new final release changes the SONAME version of essential libraries within the audacious-libs package. Dependencies will need to be rebuilt. Plugins may need a minor update to sync with modified plugin API structures. Hi Michael, I've finally gotten around to upgrading the freeworld plugins in rpmfusion development repo, they are at 2.1 now too. Regards, Hans -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Adam Jacksona...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:39 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:10:59 -0400, you wrote: 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? As far I understand this package itself is open source but has a dependency to the properitary nVidia video driver which is provides by rpmfusion.org. For this reason I vote agains the inclusion of this package into Fedora because I introduce a requirement reference to a third-party repository. I think there's precedents for accepting it for Fedora: - libXNVCtrl, another X extension library that happens to only do anything when the user is running the nvidia binary driver, but which is itself MIT-licensed. - gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux, which allows you to separate the audio and video streams from MPEG files, even though the decoding itself is off-limits for Fedora It happens that only nvidia implements VDPAU at the moment, but so what? Any other vendor could too. Well S3 does, but there driver isn't open either. But it proves that non nvidia implementations are possible. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:07:47PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: Indeed. A single tomboy build obsoleted more than a dozen Mono packages and actually got marked stable sometimes later without anyone adding a comment. I'd blame the tomboy maintainer for the chaos there. Before you push an update to a package, you MUST check for previous updates for the package (possibly filed by somebody else, Bodhi will NOT mail you about them, even if you are the maintainer!), and if it's a grouped update, you CANNOT push a new update for your package, you MUST get it updated in the group instead. I'd blame the bad workflow and the unexpected beheaviour of bodhi. Btw. all your steps are not documented in the Package Update Howto[0] and are probably not valid anymore, since the auto obsoletion is disabled now. But I do not really know how Bodhi would behave now. Regards Till [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_HOWTO pgpe0kVTrakjl.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:26 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: - From my point of view. This cases demostrate, that we need a clarification about the requirements which a package has to fullfill for inclusssion into Fedora. I don't disagree, but... Package which are only useable if you have installed a package which is not part of Fedora may not allow for Fedora. This is the argument why we not contributes eumulators. In common emulators requires special ROM images which contains copyright content. I think this is a faulty generalization. X is a network protocol. vdpau and xnvctrl applications can be perfectly functional running on a Fedora machine with no nvidia driver installed, if they happen to be talking to some _other_ machine somewhere in the world that does support those extensions. One might argue that this is a trivial distinction, and that it still requires some non-free blob to be made to work, but to make that assertion you're basically saying that interoperability is only acceptable if there's some free implementation of what you're interoperating with. If you follow that idea through, you end up removing pilot-link, libgpod... The emulator rule-of-thumb makes sense to the extent that the emulator itself is the end goal. If the only reason you could want it installed is to play some arcade game ROM then there's pretty clearly no interoperability argument to be made. But libvdpau isn't the end goal; the VDPAU app is the end goal. libvdpau is just how you get there. The emulator RoT also assumes that the copyright holder of the magic bits doesn't _want_ you to use them. NVIDIA clearly wants people to use VDPAU. - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 21.08.2009 17:10, schrieb Adam Jackson: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:26 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote: - From my point of view. This cases demostrate, that we need a clarification about the requirements which a package has to fullfill for inclusssion into Fedora. I don't disagree, but... Package which are only useable if you have installed a package which is not part of Fedora may not allow for Fedora. This is the argument why we not contributes eumulators. In common emulators requires special ROM images which contains copyright content. I think this is a faulty generalization. X is a network protocol. vdpau and xnvctrl applications can be perfectly functional running on a Fedora machine with no nvidia driver installed, if they happen to be talking to some _other_ machine somewhere in the world that does support those extensions. One might argue that this is a trivial distinction, and that it still requires some non-free blob to be made to work, but to make that assertion you're basically saying that interoperability is only acceptable if there's some free implementation of what you're interoperating with. If you follow that idea through, you end up removing pilot-link, libgpod... The emulator rule-of-thumb makes sense to the extent that the emulator itself is the end goal. If the only reason you could want it installed is to play some arcade game ROM then there's pretty clearly no interoperability argument to be made. But libvdpau isn't the end goal; the VDPAU app is the end goal. libvdpau is just how you get there. The emulator RoT also assumes that the copyright holder of the magic bits doesn't _want_ you to use them. NVIDIA clearly wants people to use VDPAU. - ajax Thank you for your explaination. I think we should make a distinct betwenn a regquirement which must install on the same machine and another requirement which is provides by a remote system. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAkqOumsACgkQZLAIBz9lVu9MoQP/ZNjwRUZSEUFxRj19pmjKocky 4OfA8yE8k15ZSEGr46wy7aMTshSnN0Ccw3hxwM1Qj+Z/g21XVJlXOK4EyFIz28Mt voBhqg2nYOBbArbBfLs+Jp3BnVZ1WIUdhTtWyDfdo6l5si61QYc5QGL2ZATBaHRT 7BYhDbiZFWxevACyRPE= =QIRs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:51 +0200, drago01 wrote: Well S3 does, but there driver isn't open either. But it proves that non nvidia implementations are possible. S3's driver implements VAAPI, not VDPAU. I already have a package review for libva submitted (mentioned it yesterday). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 16:51 +0200, drago01 wrote: Well S3 does, but there driver isn't open either. But it proves that non nvidia implementations are possible. S3's driver implements VAAPI, not VDPAU. I already have a package review for libva submitted (mentioned it yesterday). http://drivers.s3graphics.com/en/download/drivers/chrome5x-Linux/RN_Linux_EN.txt hmm? I have not tested it due to lack of hardware but it says: 06/26/2009: Version 14.02.17 - Bug Fixes - XRandR support - VDPAU support - KMS Support SUPPORTED FEATURES - H/W accelerated 2D (XAA/EXA) - H/W accelerated direct-rendering OpenG3.0 - H/W accelerated H.264/MPEG2/WMV-9/VC-1 video playback. - SAMM / Rotation / Xinerama / Compiz - XRandR support - VDPAU support - KMS Support And there are a lot of VDPAU references in the bug fixed list. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning some packages
Hi, sali...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On these other packages, I'm reducing my involvement to being co-maintainer, and new package owners are already selected when ownership was released: banshee [spot] If there is help needed, I'd like to volunteer co-maintaining banshee. I'm using banshee from time to time and I'm also maintaining some other mono-based packages. Best regards, Christian -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
drago01 wrote: Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about what we push when), but a maintainer should know how to use our tools, which includes being aware of their limitations. Double-checking things both before and after filing an update (e.g. checking https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/thepackageyoureabouttopushanupdatefor before filing the new update request) definitely can't hurt (I always do that), and it will help avoiding issues you don't even know about, or at least catching them earlier than 2 months after the fact (as happened here). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:13:34PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: drago01 wrote: Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about what we push when), but a maintainer should know how to use our tools, which includes being aware of their limitations. I use bodhi every day. I have yet to find all it's limitations. There are known limitations that aren't even documented. I think it's a bit far reaching to say that maintainers should just know, when there is no good way for them to know without either reading the code or excessive use. Double-checking things both before and after filing an update (e.g. checking https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/thepackageyoureabouttopushanupdatefor before filing the new update request) definitely can't hurt (I always do that), and it will help avoiding issues you don't even know about, or at least catching them earlier than 2 months after the fact (as happened here). That's decent advice, but it will not catch quite a number of the problems that we see come up. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: drago01 wrote: Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about what we push when), but a maintainer should know how to use our tools, which includes being aware of their limitations. Double-checking things both before and after filing an update (e.g. checking https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/thepackageyoureabouttopushanupdatefor before filing the new update request) definitely can't hurt (I always do that), and it will help avoiding issues you don't even know about, or at least catching them earlier than 2 months after the fact (as happened here). Sure if you know about a bug/limitation you can try to avoid it, but as Josh said you can't expect that every maintainer knows about all (undocumented) bugs/limitations. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about what we push when), but a maintainer should know how to use our tools, which includes being aware of their limitations. Double-checking things both before and after filing an update (e.g. checking https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/thepackageyoureabouttopushanupdatefor before filing the new update request) definitely can't hurt (I always do that), and it will help avoiding issues you don't even know about, or at least catching them earlier than 2 months after the fact (as happened here). Sure if you know about a bug/limitation you can try to avoid it, but as Josh said you can't expect that every maintainer knows about all (undocumented) bugs/limitations. Agreed, I ran into the issue a while ago. Not such a major issues as it would be for something like a KDE or mono update but annoying none the less. Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:13:34 +0200, Kevin wrote: drago01 wrote: Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about what we push when), Pitfalls remain nevertheless. F10 ktorrent got marked stable with the KDE4 buildroot override packages still sitting in updates-testing. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs
Would someone who has editing rights to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Emacs please do a global
search and replace:
%{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages to %{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages/lisp
In particular, be sure that
%{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages/site-start.d gets changed to
%{_datadir}/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/site-start.d.
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popcorn sound with kernel 2.6.29.6
Hello there, I am experiencing some random popcorn sound while playing mp3 and while assisting flash based webinars with the kernel-2.6.29.6. However I am not experiencing this with kernel-2.6.29.5. By random I mean, I don't get this popcorn sound everytime I play the same mp3 and at the same timeframe. This popcorn sound seems to attenuate the gain of the music and at the same time it speeds the play. Has anyone encountered this issue with kernel-2.6.29.6 or any means to troubleshoot it ? I was hoping to see this fix in the latest fedora release but the problem is still there. regards, Chitlesh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs
JJ == Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com writes: JJ Would someone who has editing rights to JJ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Emacs please do a global JJ search and replace: Could we have some explanation of why these changes are needed? Have these directories changed location recently? Are there versions of Fedora where these changes will not apply? What about RHEL/EPEL? - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jason L Tibbitts IIIti...@math.uh.edu wrote: Could we have some explanation of why these changes are needed? Have these directories changed location recently? Are there versions of Fedora where these changes will not apply? What about RHEL/EPEL? No, the XEmacs locations have needed the lisp part for a long time. See the very bottom of this page, and notice the copyright dates: http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html My suspicion is that whoever wrote the wiki page did a copypaste from the Emacs version and overlooked the lisp portion of the path. I actually noted this once before and thought from the response I got that it would be taken care of. Ah, perhaps it was. Item #7 in the Executive Guidelines on the wiki page gets it right. This change is appropriate for every distribution with a post 2000 release of XEmacs. Prior to that, it used site-lisp like Emacs anyway Thanks, -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Jerry Jamesloganje...@gmail.com wrote: that it would be taken care of. Ah, perhaps it was. Item #7 in the Executive Guidelines on the wiki page gets it right. Now that I look closer, the text gets it right everywhere. It's just the spec file samples that get it wrong. So forget the global search and replace. Could someone just do the search and replace on the spec file samples? Thanks, -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs
Certainly the text not agreeing with the templates is something we need to fix. I've changed four references of xemacs/site-packages to xemacs/site-packages/lisp in two specfile templates. Please double-check that everything is correct. - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Emacs packaging guidelines fix for XEmacs
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts IIIti...@math.uh.edu wrote: Certainly the text not agreeing with the templates is something we need to fix. I've changed four references of xemacs/site-packages to xemacs/site-packages/lisp in two specfile templates. Please double-check that everything is correct. Yes, it looks correct now. Thanks, Jason! -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Orphaning packages
I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - agave -- Generate a variety of colorschemes from a single starting color - apachetop -- A top-like display of Apache logs - basket -- Taking care of your ideas - blobby -- Volley-ball game - cryptopp -- Public domain C++ class library of cryptographic schemes - glest glest-data -- 3D real time strategy game - gwenview -- Simple image viewer for KDE - mhonarc -- Perl mail-to-HTML converter - moodbar -- Identifies the mood of your music files - pdftohtml -- PDF to HTML converter - perl-Jcode -- Perl extension interface for converting Japanese text - perl-Unicode-Map -- Perl module for mapping charsets from and to utf16 unicode - perl-Unicode-Map8 -- Mapping table between 8-bit chars and Unicode for Perl - perl-Unicode-MapUTF8 -- Conversions to and from arbitrary character sets and UTF8 - perl-Unicode-String -- Perl modules to handle various Unicode issues - php-adodb -- Active Data Objects Data Base - qca -- Qt Cryptographic Architecture - qca-gnupg -- GnuPG plugin for the Qt Cryptographic Architecture v2 - qca-ossl -- OpenSSL plugin for the Qt Cryptographic Architecture v2 - qca-tls -- TLS plugin for the Qt Cryptographic Architecture - qca2 -- Qt Cryptographic Architecture - showimg -- Feature-rich image viewer for KDE - stow -- Manage the installation of software packages from source - taglib -- Audio Meta-Data Library - tetex-unicode -- Unicode support for LaTeX - tiger -- Security auditing on UNIX systems - ulogd -- The userspace logging daemon for netfilter - unrtf -- RTF to other formats converter - wv -- MSWord 6/7/8/9 binary file format to HTML converter - xbindkeys -- Binds keys or mouse buttons to shell commands under X. - xine-lib -- A multimedia engine - xlhtml -- Excel 95/97 and PowerPoint to HTML converter Thanks Aurélien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org Jabber : abomp...@jabber.fr We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about. -- Albert Einstein -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: popcorn sound with kernel 2.6.29.6
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 21:41 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: I am experiencing some random popcorn sound while playing mp3 and while assisting flash based webinars with the kernel-2.6.29.6. Can you reproduce if for example running pasuspender totem name of mp3 ? Jon. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
Whoops, I forgot a few more : - libifp -- A general-purpose library-driver for iRiver's iFP portable audio players - libkexif -- Allow Kipi plugins to extract EXIF information - libkipi -- Common plugin infrastructure for KDE image applications - libvisual libvisual-plugins -- Abstraction library for audio visualisation plugins - python-dialog -- Python interface to the Unix dialog utility Thanks Aurélien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org Jabber : abomp...@jabber.fr Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. -- Tolstoï -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Aurelien Bompardgau...@free.fr wrote: I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: snip - apachetop -- A top-like display of Apache log snip I'd like to take this one, I use it quite often. I'll be taking ownership in Fedora pkgdb here in a moment. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
You might not have gotten around to it, but it appears you only orphaned the devel branch of apachetop, wasn't sure if you want to continue to maintain the stable branches but no longer beyond that or completely orphan? -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Aurelien wrote: I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - taglib -- Audio Meta-Data Library I'll sign up for that one... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
You might not have gotten around to it, but it appears you only orphaned the devel branch of apachetop, wasn't sure if you want to continue to maintain the stable branches but no longer beyond that or completely orphan? I'm not sure what the right way is. If you want to maintain it, I'll be happy to orphan F10 and F11 too, I just thought that if no-one showed up I could handle maintenance til F12. I'll orphan them right now. Aurélien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org Jabber : abomp...@jabber.fr If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution. -- Robert Sewell -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
Hi, I would like to take up pdftohtml. I could only see the devel branch in pkgdb without the Fedora 10 and 11 branch. I will be taking up ownership of the devel branch. Thanks and Regards, Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
Hi Aurélien, Picked up stow. If you want I can manage the Fedora-10 and 11 branches as well. In case you orphan them, I will pick them up as well. Thanks and Regards, Vivek -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
On Friday 21 August 2009 04:34:24 pm Aurelien Bompard wrote: - ulogd -- The userspace logging daemon for netfilter I'm taking this one. Thanks, -Steve -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
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Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps
Hi All, I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch is below and feedback is welcome. This is updated with the current components that are in rawhide. All the other packages should be pulled in by deps. Cheers, Peter --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig 2009-08-20 17:10:23.0 +0100 +++ comps-f12.xml.in2009-08-21 23:11:19.0 +0100 @@ -4235,6 +4235,24 @@ /packagelist /group group +idmoblin-desktop/id +_nameMoblin Desktop Environment/_name +_descriptionMoblin is a desktop environment for NetBook/NetTop/MID devices./_description +defaultfalse/default +uservisibletrue/uservisible +packagelist + packagereq type=mandatorybisho/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorybognor-regis/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorymoblin-cursor-theme/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorymoblin-gtk-engine/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorymoblin-icon-theme/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorymoblin-panel-applications/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorymoblin-session/packagereq + packagereq type=mandatorymoblin-sound-theme/packagereq + packagereq type=defaultanjal/packagereq +/packagelist + /group + group idmongolian-support/id _nameMongolian Support/_name _description/ @@ -6237,6 +6255,7 @@ groupidgnome-desktop/groupid groupidkde-desktop/groupid groupidlxde-desktop/groupid + groupidmoblin-desktop/groupid groupidsugar-desktop/groupid groupidwindow-managers/groupid groupidxfce-desktop/groupid -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Orphaning packages
* Aurelien Bompard [21/08/2009 22:59] : - perl-Unicode-Map -- Perl module for mapping charsets from and to utf16 unicode - perl-Unicode-Map8 -- Mapping table between 8-bit chars and Unicode for Perl - perl-Unicode-MapUTF8 -- Conversions to and from arbitrary character sets and UTF8 - perl-Unicode-String -- Perl modules to handle various Unicode issues I've taken ownership of these four. Emmanuel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
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Re: Orphaning packages
Hi Aurelien, Aurelien Bompard wrote: I'm orphaning a few packages I'm not using anymore, feel free to take over: - xbindkeys -- Binds keys or mouse buttons to shell commands under X. I took this one. If you like I can also take care of F11 and F10. So if you orphan them, I'll take ownership of these, too. Best regards, Christian -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20
Michael Schwendt wrote: Pitfalls remain nevertheless. F10 ktorrent got marked stable with the KDE4 buildroot override packages still sitting in updates-testing. Yeah, indeed, the maintainer screwed up big time there. :-/ He didn't talk to us at all before pushing that ktorrent update. :-( He used to be on #fedora-kde from time to time, but not anymore. He apparently didn't read our announcement about the KDE 4.3.0 buildroot override on the mailing list either. BTW, the update notes for that update are also completely worthless, when upstream even summarized the changes nicely in their newsitem (so there's really no excuse for not pasting them in). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 06:14:00 + 2009 --- [...] kerning problem [...] Using the provided sample document I didn't see any problem in the test version that was new compared to the related development milestone. Maybe something like issue 92746 or 78815 are meant here? [...] problems with Type1 fonts [...] Using the provided sample document I didn't see any problem in the test version that was that was new compared to the related development milestone. Please let's focus on the new feature of PS-OTF support for printing and PDF-export and any eventual regressions that might have introduced. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 11:13:25 + 2009 --- Sorry: but the mentioned problems with Kerning and Spacing are not related to the use of OpenType Fonts. We uses allways OpenType I was simply not aware off this problem. I did some tests with standard Windows fonts as Arial and found out that the OO-PDFexport simply ignorges some OO-Kerning and OO-SpaceWidth settings. As far I can see, the Font Width follows the OO-percentages but the spaces stays at 100%. PLease tell me if this is a known issue (Windows) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 11:43:24 + 2009 --- Sorry again :-) Kerning and Space-condencing-expanding works fine only Character spacing is a problem Make a PDF from my Spacing_problem.odt to see wath happens - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 11:44:26 + 2009 --- Sorry again :-) Kerning and Space-condencing-expanding works fine only Character spacing is a problem Make a PDF from my Spacing_problem.odt to see wath happens - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 11:46:30 + 2009 --- Created an attachment (id=64297) Make a PDF to see the spacing problems - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from s...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 11:48:22 + 2009 --- Created an attachment (id=64298) Make a PDF to see the spacing problems - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43029 --- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Fri Aug 21 12:11:15 + 2009 --- Font Width follows the OO-percentages but the spaces stays at 100% That's probably either issue 89129 or 104212, which seem to happen independently of PS-OTF or PS- TTF. I'm not sure if I already mentioned it but please let's focus on issues specific to the PS-OTF-support and the test-build... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
smolt change request
I'd like to do the hotfix described here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1622 Changes are already upstream. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
RE: smolt change request
+1 -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux -Original Message- From: fedora-infrastructure-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-infrastructure-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mike McGrath Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:36 PM To: Fedora Infrastructure List Subject: smolt change request I'd like to do the hotfix described here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1622 Changes are already upstream. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: smolt change request
On 2009-08-21 01:36:01 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: I'd like to do the hotfix described here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1622 Changes are already upstream. +1 Thanks, Ricky pgpsKoz8PJ4eq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
[PATCH/RFC] mailman: Use Mailman's Secure_MakeRandomPassword() for list passwords
This should generate a bit stronger passwords than the previous code,
which encoded the passwords as hex, limiting the characters in the
password to the set [0-9a-f].
---
The mailman_server class is only included on collab[12] and hosted1,
so it isn't actually affected by the current freeze policy. But I
still wanted to float this by the list for comments and review.
The current fedora-mailing-list-setup script creates a list password
using:
file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
This seems to be a good bit weaker than it needs to be. Unless
someone has better alternatives for creating decent list passwords, I
suggest we take advantage of Mailman.Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword()
from mailman. The Secure_MakeRandomPassword() code is in:
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py
configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup |2 +-
modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup |2 +-
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
b/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
index 8ccdda7..80b2c58 100755
--- a/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
+++ b/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ def create_list(listname, owner_mail):
host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % urlhost
-listpasswd = file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
+listpasswd = Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword(mm_cfg.ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH)
mlist = MailList.MailList()
try:
diff --git a/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
b/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
index 7d5dcd3..bf10b81 100755
--- a/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
+++ b/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ def create_list(listname, owner_mail):
host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % urlhost
-listpasswd = file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
+listpasswd = Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword(mm_cfg.ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH)
mlist = MailList.MailList()
try:
--
1.6.4
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Re: [PATCH/RFC] mailman: Use Mailman's Secure_MakeRandomPassword() for list passwords
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:
This should generate a bit stronger passwords than the previous code,
which encoded the passwords as hex, limiting the characters in the
password to the set [0-9a-f].
---
The mailman_server class is only included on collab[12] and hosted1,
so it isn't actually affected by the current freeze policy. But I
still wanted to float this by the list for comments and review.
The current fedora-mailing-list-setup script creates a list password
using:
file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
This seems to be a good bit weaker than it needs to be. Unless
someone has better alternatives for creating decent list passwords, I
suggest we take advantage of Mailman.Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword()
from mailman. The Secure_MakeRandomPassword() code is in:
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py
configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup |2 +-
modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup |2 +-
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
b/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
index 8ccdda7..80b2c58 100755
--- a/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
+++ b/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ def create_list(listname, owner_mail):
host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % urlhost
-listpasswd = file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
+listpasswd =
Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword(mm_cfg.ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH)
mlist = MailList.MailList()
try:
diff --git a/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
b/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
index 7d5dcd3..bf10b81 100755
--- a/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
+++ b/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ def create_list(listname, owner_mail):
host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % urlhost
-listpasswd = file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
+listpasswd =
Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword(mm_cfg.ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH)
mlist = MailList.MailList()
try:
--
1.6.4
I'm fine with this patch but I can't pretend I know that it's going to
work, my mailman foo is pretty weak. But since the revert seems easy
enough.
+1
-Mike
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Re: [PATCH/RFC] mailman: Use Mailman's Secure_MakeRandomPassword() for list passwords
Mike McGrath wrote: I'm fine with this patch but I can't pretend I know that it's going to work, my mailman foo is pretty weak. But since the revert seems easy enough. +1 Thanks. There are a few hosted requests with lists, so I'll apply it and use those to verify that it works. I might not get to those tonight though, so I'll hold off pushing this until I'm ready to test it, lest it does cause some unforeseen problem and I'm not around to fix it and take my drubbing. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. -- Dr. Milton Friedman, Nobel-Prize-winning economist. pgpTqsF2Yt4nb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [PATCH/RFC] mailman: Use Mailman's Secure_MakeRandomPassword() for list passwords
On 2009-08-21 05:51:23 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
This should generate a bit stronger passwords than the previous code,
which encoded the passwords as hex, limiting the characters in the
password to the set [0-9a-f].
---
The mailman_server class is only included on collab[12] and hosted1,
so it isn't actually affected by the current freeze policy. But I
still wanted to float this by the list for comments and review.
The current fedora-mailing-list-setup script creates a list password
using:
file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
This seems to be a good bit weaker than it needs to be. Unless
someone has better alternatives for creating decent list passwords, I
suggest we take advantage of Mailman.Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword()
from mailman. The Secure_MakeRandomPassword() code is in:
/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py
configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup |2 +-
modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup |2 +-
2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
b/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
index 8ccdda7..80b2c58 100755
--- a/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
+++ b/configs/mailman/fedora-mailing-list-setup
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ def create_list(listname, owner_mail):
host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % urlhost
-listpasswd = file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
+listpasswd =
Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword(mm_cfg.ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH)
mlist = MailList.MailList()
try:
diff --git a/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
b/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
index 7d5dcd3..bf10b81 100755
--- a/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
+++ b/modules/mailman/files/fedora-mailing-list-setup
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ def create_list(listname, owner_mail):
host_name = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST
web_page_url = mm_cfg.DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % urlhost
-listpasswd = file('/dev/urandom', 'r').read(4).encode('hex')
+listpasswd =
Utils.Secure_MakeRandomPassword(mm_cfg.ADMIN_PASSWORD_LENGTH)
mlist = MailList.MailList()
try:
--
1.6.4
+1
Thanks,
Ricky
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Re: rpmbuild warning message
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 22:21 -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote: In building 2.6.29..6-217.2.8.fc11 from source rpm for i586 architecture on a machine with amd athlon64 cpu, I get this warning message: arch/x86/kernel/pvclock.c:63:7: warning: __x86_64__ is not defined See commit 2ad76643ff58bb8841f391ea8327c14abe273ea3 (x86: Fix warning in pvclock.c) for the identical fix in the upstream kernel (i.e. Linus' git tree). Paul Bolle ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
RE: rpmbuild warning message
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 08:24 -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote: There are numerous other warnings which seem to be inconsequential as far as compilation goes. I was wondering if there is a concerted effort to thoroughly lint the kernel and get rid of all those warnings. The kernel build system is very quiet by default. As far as I know it is that quiet (among other things) to make warnings stand out. Valid fixes for warnings (as the commit I pointed you to) should be accepted without too much trouble. Paul Bolle ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: What driver for a Lenovo/IBM thinkpad T60 with ATI Radeon Mobility X1400?
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Philip Greeremitt...@gmail.com wrote: All: In FC11, what driver should I used in xorg.conf for the Lenovo T60 thinkpad ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 graphics chip? The correct driver for you is the radeon one, and for that you shouldn't need to have an xorg.conf Currently I'm running 'Driver Radeon', but it is not stable at all. If I close the laptop lid (suspend), then re-open it to awaken it, the screen has a bunch of fuzzle horizontal lines and never returns to proper graphics (I have to hard power off the laptop and restart it). This looks like: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498784 I did try the fglrx driver, but it doesn't compile under FC11. And unfortunately it seems ATI has no plans to update it to work with newer distros... -- Gianluca Sforna http://morefedora.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
battery monitor not working on Fedora 11 on Asus laptop
Hi, I have an Asus laptop, which Fedora 11 doesn't seem to be able to tell anything about the battery status, although Fedora 9 does. Any clues about what to look into about this? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[OT] cron difference between a RH system and Ubuntu
There are 2 systems... On is a RHELv4 the other is a Ubuntu system...don't know the version. Both have postgreSQL installslightly different versions...but I don't think that matters. The RHEL system pg_dump (PostgreSQL) 8.1.2 The Ubuntu systempg_dump (PostgreSQL) 8.3.6 The issue is running pg_dump from a cron job. The RHEL system is running just fineand the admin of the system wanted to move the same backup scripts to the Ubuntu system. On the Ubuntu system the job ran fine from the command line but produced a 0 length dump file when run from cron. The solution to the problem was to redirect stdout and stderr to either a file or /dev/null for the pg_dump command. Does anyone have a clue as to why the different behavior? I know this may be a (cough, cough) Ubuntu question...but does anyone have an idea if there is a switch that can be turned on so the redirect is not needed? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Thunderbird-does-not-shutdown-properly-in-F11--tp25075232p25075232.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problem with CalmAV
I have installed CalmAV anti virus software on F11 and when I am trying to enable auto-scan following error is coming: Dazuko was not loaded successfully. Please check your installation. Auto-update is working. How to solve this problem? Kishore -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mysql 5.1.36 cluster - does anybody have this working?
Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: I can recommend you mysql master-slave replication or postgresql with bucardo (2 master's, and more n slaves) On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Howard Wilkinsonhow...@cohtech.com wrote: I have upgraded from FC9 through FC10 to FC11 but the cluster code available with FC11 is refusing to start up properly. Does anybody have this working? If so was there any magic incantations used to get the database gods to cooperate? Regards, Howard. Itamar, I already use the master-slave replication for some of our higher volume databases - although this in itself brings in problems when things get out of step. But I use the cluster storage for our smaller configuration databases, including the backend to a replciated MyDNS environment. This has worked wonderfully with the 5.0.x series of MySQL but in upgrading to 5.1.36 a number of problems arose. When I sent out the message I still had part of the cluster running 5.0.x storage, and the new Cluster nodes were refusing to come up. I finally fixed this by altering the parameters to allow the 5.0.x nodes to start under control of the 5.1.36 NDB_MGMD instances (Options that had reasonable defaults for .5.0.x do not if they are provided by a 5.1.36 arbitrator) once these old nodes started I got a sensible error message from the 5.1.36 NDBD nodes - they told me that the cluster version were incompatible - it seems you need to upgrade to an early 5.1.x cluster first and then go through 5.1.20 (or 5.1.21 or something thereabouts) and the jump to 5.1.36 to do a hot upgrade, and even then I have found little evidence of anybody doing it. So what I did instead was to shutdown the 5.0.x NDB stores, destroy the NDB store on the 5.1.36 nodes, start these nodes with the --initial-state --nowait-nodes arguments and rebuilding the NDB store from our backups. I could then upgrade the 5.0.x nodes knowing that I had a working store and like magic everything burts into life when I brought up the quorum. So the lesson learnt is that you cannot jump major versions using the upgrade paths suggested by MySQL unless you track their upgrade steps - even then I am not sure it would be easy. They use different database gods with each major release :-[ Regards, Howard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
Mike Cloaked wrote: I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas. -- It's not that I don't want (to die)...it's just that life is a habit that's hard to break. (Reaper Man) mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Didar Hossaindidar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11, which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password through browser interface. Is there any web based utility through which users can change their password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change which is giving error ?? I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB passwords in this case. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines But I don't know the tdbsam, can anybody help me out Arun I meant writing a PHP script as a wrapper around `smbpasswd' - you do not have to worry about manipulating the tdbsam file youself. If you want an example script then let me know. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: battery monitor not working on Fedora 11 on Asus laptop
2009/8/21 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au: I have an Asus laptop, which Fedora 11 doesn't seem to be able to tell anything about the battery status, although Fedora 9 does. Any clues about what to look into about this? You want to look at the output of devkit-power --dump and then look at bugzilla for a problem similar to yours: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=gnome-power-managerproduct=Fedora Richard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On 08/21/2009 05:14 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 I have the latest Thunderbird in Fedora 11 updated a few days ago - have no problems. Don't know what enigmail is so can't help there. Have you yum updated to the latest Tbird. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: battery monitor not working on Fedora 11 on Asus laptop
On 8/21/09, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi, I have an Asus laptop, which Fedora 11 doesn't seem to be able to tell anything about the battery status, although Fedora 9 does. Any clues about what to look into about this? Does cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state produce something useful? Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: problem identified: Flash locking /dev/snd (Re: F11: I keep losing audio)
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: Colin Brace wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Dumb question - are all the applications configured to use PulseAudio? It sounds like Epiphany is using Alsa instead of PA, so it is grabbing the audio all for itself. It is possible this is what is happening, but I have consciously configured Epiphany and/or Flash this way. Maybe I have it reversed about what programs are using Alsa instead of PA. PA locks the sound ports while it is active, but if I remember correctly from past experience, it releases them when it is not playing anything... (I may not have that part correct...) I don't have a solution for this (other than quitting Firefox) but I've had the same problem on two machines on both FC8 and FC11. The former without PulseAudio and the latter with. Same issue. It would be nice to find a solution! /h -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Zoneminder under FC11
I have recently upgraded to FC11 and the system that runs my CCTV is now refusing to restart properly. Zoneminder is starting up but I am getting the following failures logged into the syslog. Aug 21 10:36:19 mpeg1 zmc_dvideo0[5319]: ERR [Capture failure for frame 0: Device or resource busy] Aug 21 10:36:19 mpeg1 zmc_dvideo0[5319]: ERR [Failed to prime capture of initial monitor] I have not changed any permissions from the FC9 and FC10 installations that worked properly. The driver is loading correctly it is a BTTV card type 77, ... Nothing has the /dev/video0 device open and the permissions on the device are rw for everybody. I have booted the kernel with selinux=0 audit=0 acpi_enforce_resources=lax Anybody got any magic incantations that I need to try. (I have run zmupgrade.pl) Howard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
On Friday 21 August 2009 08:14:28 Mike Cloaked wrote: I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 Yes, both Thunderbird and Firefox have that effect on this laptop. I have to kill the processes immediately after using the application. firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 The odd thing is that they seem to hog the cpu much worse at that point then when they were actually in use. I do have enigmail installed, but this was happening before I installed it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samba 3 and changepasswd
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Didar Hossaindidar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Didar Hossaindidar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Arun Shrimaliarun.r...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I have recently setup a standalone Samba 3.32 server on Fedora 11, which is working fine. Now I want my users to change their password through browser interface. Is there any web based utility through which users can change their password in tdbsam ?? as samba 3 uses tdbsam I have tried changepasswd with smbpasswd (http://changepassword.sourceforge.net/), but it change system password as well as samba password), where as I want to change only smbpasswd, and there is no option to avoid system password to change which is giving error ?? I believe, you will have to write your own web front-end to change SMB passwords in this case. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines But I don't know the tdbsam, can anybody help me out Arun I meant writing a PHP script as a wrapper around `smbpasswd' - you do not have to worry about manipulating the tdbsam file youself. If you want an example script then let me know. Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Dear Didar, I am not an PHP expert, can you please help me, may be it would helpful for lots of other people like me. regards Arun -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with CalmAV
On Friday 21 August 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: I have installed CalmAV anti virus software on F11 and when I am trying to enable auto-scan following error is coming: Dazuko was not loaded successfully. Please check your installation. Auto-update is working. How to solve this problem? Known-issue. Disable the real-time scanner. That's about all you can do. It's been an issue for a LONG time. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215080 Basically, it can't be fixed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Cloaked wrote: I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas. When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two additional packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I have just updated as normal and the packages remain in place. Lightning is installed with: yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates and enigmail via: yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora - but that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this issue but who have not installed the latter then this implies there is a problem with thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this yet? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Thunderbird-does-not-shutdown-properly-in-F11--tp25075232p25076156.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ClamAV
Is there any to do on-access scanning with ClamAV *without* having Dazuko? Someone posted a problem here earlier and it got me thinking. We *know* we have a problem doing on-access scanning with ClamAV, and surely someone has thought about trying to find a way around not being able to use Dazuko. Why are we still having this problem with Dazuko??? Can someone not come up with a better way to interface between file access calls and the antivirus than having a kernel module that has to be recompiled each time? Not to mention that due to an incompatibility with the way the kernel is compiled, we can't compile Dazuko. Just something for some folks who can program to chew on. :-) I'm sure there are some really good programmers out there. I'm not one of them, unfortunately, or I'd take a crack at it. :-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ClamAV
John Aldrich wrote: Is there any to do on-access scanning with ClamAV *without* having Dazuko? Someone posted a problem here earlier and it got me thinking. We *know* we have a problem doing on-access scanning with ClamAV, and surely someone has thought about trying to find a way around not being able to use Dazuko. Why are we still having this problem with Dazuko??? Can someone not come up with a better way to interface between file access calls and the antivirus than having a kernel module that has to be recompiled each time? Not to mention that due to an incompatibility with the way the kernel is compiled, we can't compile Dazuko. Just something for some folks who can program to chew on. :-) I'm sure there are some really good programmers out there. I'm not one of them, unfortunately, or I'd take a crack at it. :-) It is possible that a userland solution could be produced using the INOTIFY feature in the newer kernels. I have yet to use this myself so have little knowledge on its limitations but reading the manual page it look like directories can be monitored, so an opt in scheme that monitored 'disc' by monitoring all of the directories in them and scanning newly created/altered files would work. This would find virus files once they been created (but may not be able to delete them if another process has the handle open). So there would be some windows of vulnerability, but this may be good enough. An alternative for CIFS servers is to modify the SAMBA system to run Clamav on the files as they are written, so that file server clients see a on write scan behaviour from the server. This is also a partial solution. Of course this would need a programmer to find time to do this. I have the skills but not the time, ho hum! Howard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?
Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Cloaked wrote: I have thunderbird with lightning (and enigmail) installed in F11, and when I shutdown thunderbird I see the processor using a significant fraction of the CPU and the process thunderbird-bin is still active. I can kill this process, but I can't see any way to prevent this unclean shutdown happening. Does anyone else see this with the version of thunderbird in F11? I could not find a directly relevant bz but have added a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493000 You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able to install them...with any of the 3.0 betas. ... [show rest of quote] When I originally installed F11 I then also installed the two additional packages from the Fedora updates via yum - since then I have just updated as normal and the packages remain in place. Lightning is installed with: yum install thunderbird-lightning which is in updates and enigmail via: yum install thunderbird-enigmail and this is in rpmfusion I know that the latter is not strictly directly supported by Fedora - but that was why I asked the question - if others are seeing this issue but who have not installed the latter then this implies there is a problem with thunderbird itself but I don't know the answer to this yet? -- mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
list files but not directory
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Re: list files but not directory
ann kok wrote: any way to list files but not directory Could you be more specific about what you want? Possible solutions might be using 'ls -d' or 'find -type f' but it's hard to say without knowing what you're trying to do. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Stenderup's Law: The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up. pgp7ptN3H3Qjb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
(Please don't top post.) ann kok wrote: ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory And do you just not want to see the contents of any directories or not see them at all? Using 'ls -d1' you would see the directory name in the output, but not the files inside it. To avoid that, I think you need to use find or some other tool, though I'm not positive that there isn't a way to do it with ls that I don't know about. You could use 'find -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f' perhaps. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Everything the government touches turns to crap. -- Ringo Starr pgpQ47oSjrHIL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 05:17 -0700, ann kok wrote: ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory ls -l | grep -v '^d' But that will also show you symlinks, fifos, device nodes etc. Bryn. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
ls -1 but I only want the file to list not directory thank you --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com wrote: From: Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com Subject: Re: list files but not directory To: fedora-list@redhat.com Received: Friday, August 21, 2009, 8:02 AM ann kok wrote: any way to list files but not directory Could you be more specific about what you want? Possible solutions might be using 'ls -d' or 'find -type f' but it's hard to say without knowing what you're trying to do. -- Todd OpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Stenderup's Law: The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up. -Inline Attachment Follows- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
On 08/21/2009 12:58 PM, ann kok wrote: Hi any way to list files but not directory Thank you __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ Seems like a very reasonable request and its a shame that ls does not provide such an option (which I guess would be an extension to the -A option) Anyhow, if its OK to use grep, try this. ls -1A --indicator-style=slash |grep -v -E /$ The --indicator adds a / to the end of dirs, the grep excludes entries that end in / Albert. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: More on the Cat with a Twitter account
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 21:34 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/8/20 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: Spurred on by the touching story of the creation of a Twitter account for a cat I indeed found that if firebox was put in Internet Explorer mode using the User Agent I could create a Twitter account. I felt appropriately chastened until this morning when I found that firefox pretending to be Internet Explorer could not execute the Twitter Search command. What a bummer. So back to Windows I had to go. I'm confused. I exclusively use Firefox. I signed up for a Twitter account about 2 months ago and it was fine. I've just gone to twitter.com and clicked the Seach button and it still works fine - although it does use Javascript to submit the search. Do you perchance have the NoScript plugin loaded in Firefox? -- Sam Let us forget about this.. I don't have a NoScript plugin loaded. Why the behavior on my machine is different I can't imagine. I like to be unique but not this unique. For me twitter doesn't completely work in F11. I can deal with it. For example this morning Search works. So it must be a Twitter problem. -- === Bahdges? We don't need no stinkin' bahdges! -- The Treasure of Sierra Madre === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not exiting
Mail Lists-3 wrote: Whenever I quit thunderbird (F11 updated) - screen clears but there remains thunderbird-bin process running. To restart TB (not a disease coff coff) .. I need to hand killall thunderbird-bin. (x64) I see same thing on stock mozilla build (32 bit) on F10 as well. Is this a bug with TB or a bug with gnome or ? thanks. gene I see the same and I am not running x64! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-exiting-tp24997333p25079261.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Hi any way to list files but not directory Thank you ls -hl | grep ^- -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not exiting
On Friday 21 August 2009 13:54:47 Mike Cloaked wrote: Mail Lists-3 wrote: Whenever I quit thunderbird (F11 updated) - screen clears but there remains thunderbird-bin process running. To restart TB (not a disease coff coff) .. I need to hand killall thunderbird-bin. (x64) I see same thing on stock mozilla build (32 bit) on F10 as well. Is this a bug with TB or a bug with gnome or ? thanks. gene I see the same and I am not running x64! Forgot to say, mine is not x64 either. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the write window i'm typing now in are ok. In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up. I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss). Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check? Here's the latest from yum.log: Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 15:08 +0930, Tim wrote: Tim: Do you *just* mean doing a kernel upgrade or do you mean an upgrade and *using* the new kernel, too? Dave Stevens: yes, both. Last reboot on the old serevr beside me was 148 days ago and three kernel updates that I recall. Interesting! I didn't know CentOS was able to do that, I'd only seen discussions about how that sort of thing might be done in Linux, without a reference to something that actually did it. Is the feature standard, or requires special treatment? I'm getting close to setting up a new box with CentOS for the main server, and wouldn't mind being able to do that. I'm sure a lot of us would like to know. AFAIK CentOS is based on RHEL and I haven't seen any news of the latter being able to do this. I also see nothing about it on the CentOS website, where I would expect such a major feature to be displayed prominently. Note that ksplice supports CentOS. Is that what we're talking about? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Dave Stevensg...@uniserve.com wrote: On Wednesday 19 August 2009 06:43:35 pm Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 16:42 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: and on that point, I've done kernel upgrades to my Centos 5.3 box many times with no reboot. Do you *just* mean doing a kernel upgrade or do you mean an upgrade and *using* the new kernel, too? yes, both. Last reboot on the old serevr beside me was 148 days ago and three kernel updates that I recall. [r...@cserver ~]# uname -a Linux cserver.davedomain 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 09:19:18 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Dave So the kernel you are running was compiled in April (when did you reboot last?). What about the 5 kernels released since Apr? kernel-2.6.18-128.4.1.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.2.1.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.14.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.16.el5 kernel-2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 -- William Hooper -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SMB client issue on F11
I've just done an install of F11 (from DVD) on my eeepc 901. when I click PLACES | NETWORK I get the nautilus file browser but it doesn't find any of the samba shares on my LAN. but if I boot up the live CD of F11, and do the same thing, it does. I'm not sure how to proceed here, can someone suggest what I should look at? Thanks! -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -- Philippians 4:13 --- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[OT] Awardbios virtualisation setting
Hello, I have been playing with KVM virtualisation under F11, and it has all worked fine. However, I am having a lot of trouble getting the 'Virtualisation' setting to 'stick' in the BIOS. It seems that by default it is disabled. If I enable it and then save the setting, the PC goes through a reboot, but not power-off, and the setting is disabled again. IF I enable the setting, save it, and then power off the PC, and then power-on/reboot, it seems to work fine (virtualisation is enabled) until the next time I reboot the PC. It is then back to being disabled. Does anyone know how to make the virtualisation setting permanently 'enabled'? It is an abit motherboard (AN-M2; socket AM2), and an AMD Athlon 64-bit X2 (6400 I think; the PC is at home and I'm at work at the moment). The BIOS is phoenix awardbios version 6.01 (again I think). I have checked with the abit web site, and I have the latest BIOS version for this motherboard. Thanks, John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora And Virtualization
Gene Poole wrote: If I plan to run VMware Servers on a Fedora 11 machine, is it good practice to install the virtual kernel? Thanks, Gene Poole You will find that the vmware setup script will not run on Fedora 11 because some of the kernel header's have changed. It works in Fc10, not 11. There are some people advertising patches, but they look shaky. Vmware will likely update vmware server, but for now I would avoid it in fc11. wcn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list files but not directory
Hi; On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 13:36 +0100, Albert Graham wrote: On 08/21/2009 12:58 PM, ann kok wrote: Hi any way to list files but not directory Thank you __ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ Seems like a very reasonable request and its a shame that ls does not provide such an option (which I guess would be an extension to the -A option) I remember asking about this four or five years ago when I first started using Linux (RedHat). (It was the first question I asked on the users mailing list.) Now that I am familiar with 'find' and 'grep' etc. I no longer worry about it. However, 'ls' is probably the first commandline command a beginner learns. It seems illogical, that 'ls' wouldn't have a flag that just shows files when it has a flag for directories. It can cost newbies hours looking for a solution that isn't there. Couldn't the shell maintainers just add an appropriate flag to show files only? -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
