Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the NetworkManager service is running, but not managing the current network connection, then Firefox starts up in offline mode. Is this a bug in NetworkManager or Firefox ? This is odd behaviour and needs to be fixed. I would suggest open up a bug against firefox. I know one can change toolkit.networkmanager.disable preference, but it is a PITA for our users. One of use cases is: Sometime network manager does not connect me via my CDMA usb modem (in case signal is weak), but wvdial does and once I switch from NM to wvdial, my firefox gets to offline mode, which I don't expect it to as I am connected. -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/ freedom, friends, features, first -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On 11/28/2009 07:31 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
On 11/27/2009 08:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 20:04 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
Hi,
I did take part in the Radeon test day. Unfortunately the tests did not
really cover 3D and it was difficult to test this using the Live system.
I did feed back this.
Right...that is mainly a product of what Dave mentioned, that general 3D
functionality is unfortunately right at the bottom of the priority list,
at least until we have drivers that work really solidly for basic
desktop functionality. But I'd be happy to have more extensive 3D tests
in the list for future test days, please do feel free to submit some.
But they are a good idea and I would have thought
could be extended to having a test day after a release has been going
for a month or so so more users could take part.
It's not a bad idea, for sure. I'm not sure _I'd_ do it, though, it's
enough work organizing the test days for the upcoming release without
doing ones for the last release too. :) However, we do have a process
for allowing anyone to organize a Test Day. You can propose one just by
mailing test-list or filing a ticket in QA trac, and we have an SOP for
the whole process of actually hosting one:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
so it'd be perfectly feasible for a community member to organize
post-release graphics test events for the stable release. I'd be happy
to work those into the upcoming test day schedule if you'd be interested
in doing it.
Actually it was not me with NVIDIA. I don't have any systems using this
chipset.
sorry, yes, mistaken identity :)
Yes I take your points, but it is hard for users, quite often, to
test the
system and know how to track down where a bug is occurring and report
it.
Generally users and volunteers do not have the experience of how the
Fedora developer community and its systems work, how the graphics system
works and how to test and report issues. So some involvement of
developers
to getting a relatively simple testing regime going may help get this
underway.
We do have a page on reporting X.org bugs:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems
which should cover the major points, and which we try to direct people
to wherever we can. Do you think there's anything missing from that?
Anyway, I have been convinced, from what Dave has said, that things
are being
done and have now started trying to use F12 and will attempt to
report back
issues I see.
Thanks a lot.
Some really useful info in How_to_debug_Xorg_problems. I couldn't easily
find it from the main wiki home page however. Maybe a link to this page
marked Graphics issues could be made on the front page (focus users on
improving the
graphics) ?
Could improve the title Graphics problems and bug reporting ?
and add some search terms such as Graphics Problems, 3D problems etc.
Add some info on what to set for Bugzilla fields ?
Maybe the bug reports should include the package version numbers ?
Maybe some simple user tools could be generated to ease and make bug
reporting more useful. Something simple like the following might be useful:
#!/bin/sh
date bug1
lspci | grep VGA bug1
(echo -n kernel: ; uname -r) bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n xorg-x11-server-Xorg bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n xorg-x11-drv-ati bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n mesa-dri-drivers bug1
glxinfo | grep OpenGL renderer string bug1
It might be worth including info on how to update from fedora-testing
just graphics related packages. Ie add something like:
includepkgs=kernel* xorg-x11-* mesa*
to the updates-testing section of fedora-updates-testing.repo and
enable the repo ? Also how to revert. Should it state that all tests
should be done with fedora-updates-testing packages ?
I notice there is a new xorg-x11-drv-ati. It does look like things are
moving :)
All we need now is 2 months down the line for Fedora 12.1 to be released
with
updated anaconda and all updated packages in ISO form so that
Joe public can easily install a good working Fedora release ...
Cheers
Terry
Which are the best Bugzilla components to register bugs against:
X11 driver ATI: xorg-x11-drv-ati
3D driver: mesa
DRM: kernel ???
Cheers
Terry
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Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web
On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: 2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote: If the NetworkManager service is running, but not managing the current network connection, then Firefox starts up in offline mode. Is this a bug in NetworkManager or Firefox ? This is odd behaviour and needs to be fixed. I would suggest open up a bug against firefox. I know one can change toolkit.networkmanager.disable preference, but it is a PITA for our users. One of use cases is: Sometime network manager does not connect me via my CDMA usb modem (in case signal is weak), but wvdial does and once I switch from NM to wvdial, my firefox gets to offline mode, which I don't expect it to as I am connected. Ok, filed as: 542078 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
2009/11/28 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com said: I wish vi had some tutorial the way emacs does, so one don't get lost in it. In vim, hit F1. It's :help -- Guido Grazioli guido.grazi...@gmail.com Via Parri 11 48011 - Alfonsine (RA) Mobile: +39 347 1017202 (10-18) Key FP = 7040 F398 0DED A737 7337 DAE1 12DC A698 5E81 2278 Linked in: http://www.linkedin.com/in/guidograzioli -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
2009/11/28 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm an emacs user who's nearly completely useless in vi. But, really... it just doesn't matter if emacs isn't installed by default. If you want it, you know how to get it. And let's be frank: emacs is not something that a user who is unaware of it might stumble into and suddenly find himself blindingly productive. (Nor, for that matter, is vi.) I agree. My problem is not that emacs is missing in development stack. My problem is when there is something wrong with the computer and I have to boot in the rescue mode, I can't rescue anything because emacs is not there. I wrote on a piece of paper how I would save and exit in vi, or exit without saving in vi, but that paper is gone now. I wish vi had some tutorial the way emacs does, so one don't get lost in it. The other day at work, I had to tweak some stuff in one of our servers, but I found that another person at work removed emacs from the machine because it takes too much space. There I realized that Emacs has always been the scapegoat. When did Fedora stop installing emacs by default? Fedora Core 3? As a sysadmin, this is completely the wrong mentality. Fedora, RHEL, and CentOS do not ship with emacs out of the box. If you have to rescue a system, you need to know how to use the tools present. You do not question this, because no matter how much control over your own environment, you never know when someone is offering you a big wad of cash to fix their network. The same applies to your own network. You need to document which editors should be present on which machines and who has the skills to use any particular editor. Finally, if you want to call yourself a sysadmin, it's not good enough to be comfortable in your preferred editor, but to know the ins and outs of the entire system. You must know how to use emacs *and* vi. You must know how to use find and grep. You should know how to use awk and xargs. There's ways of doing the same in emacs and vi, but you neve know when you might come across a system with corrupt binaries. But this has less to do with what should be shipped as a default editor for programmers. -Yaakov signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Dave Airlie wrote: Don't use radeonhd, the Fedora X team don't support it and never have. I'm thinking it should reallyt be removed from the distro at this point as it makes things worse rather than better. remove your xorg.conf and turn modesetting on and if its still horrible, then we can talk. Well, a couple of Fedoras back, X didn't work except with radeonhd, but now radeon appears to support this one as well; I switched to it, and the CPU issue is gone even with KMS. Now fonts (esp small ones) look very smudgy though. But I suppose there are already bug(s) open on this. -- Pekka Savola You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oykingdom bleeds. Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
Well, a couple of Fedoras back, X didn't work except with radeonhd, but now radeon appears to support this one as well; I switched to it, and the CPU issue is gone even with KMS. Now fonts (esp small ones) look very smudgy though. But I suppose there are already bug(s) open on this. Don't suppose. Either search Bugzilla to see if that's the case, or report it anyway. If one keeps supposing the bug was already reported, it might never get fixed. -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12?
Am 2009-11-27 04:53, schrieb Kevin Kofler: Terry Barnaby wrote: I have just tried to test install F12 on some of my systems, (5 different ones). All of these bar 1 has problems with the graphics (X11 lockups, system lockups and other problems) mainly in 3D but also in 2D. That's surprising as I've read mostly positive feedback about graphics in F12 so far, at least compared to F11. Maybe you are just really unlucky? Kevin Kofler I am having two problems. X is *really* slow to me until the desktop has finished loading. So slow I can't select a username from the login screen unless I wait for a while. This didn't happen in F11. For my particular bug it's likely that people will use suspend/resume. This works well and doesn't trigger the bug. If a lot of people use suspend/resume they have a good workaround and there will be no bug reports. Bug is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542097 I get another bug where X crashes if I unplug the USB keyboard, wait some time, then plug it in again: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538500 and another bug where X essentially hangs forever when I resume from a suspend (this is fixed now): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530854 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess both vim and emacs should be available. Hello there, For what it matters, vim and emacs are installed by default with FEL. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ I'm looking for contributors who can help me improve user experience (on fedora) with emacs for hardware design. Thereby I would appreciate if you can help me maintain the following packages which will be set default for FEL Livedvd 13: * spice-mode https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/75 * irsim-mode (draft spec file provided) https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/50 I'll do the package reviews, if someone steps in. Also, I'm looking for someone who can communicate directly with upstream to update both * vhdl-mode * verilog-mode coming with upstream sources. This ticket tracks the progress with upstream : https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/ticket/76. Please do fill it if progress is made. This blog post explains how one can use emacs in a production environment for hardware design. I'm hoping that the above tasks can further improve user experience out of the box. http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/fel-emacs-verilog-mode-dinotrace/ Kind regards, Chitlesh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12?
Hi. On 28.11.2009 12:29, nodata wrote: X is *really* slow to me until the desktop has finished loading. So slow I can't select a username from the login screen unless I wait for a while. This didn't happen in F11. Could that be the same as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541878 ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20091128 changes
Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009
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Re: license issue - combining gplv2 and lgpl sources in a single rpm
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:25:27 -0800, Carl wrote: The rasmol source has a dual GPLv2/RASMOL license, so for Fedora we can consider that it is licensed gplv2. There are some libraries that are included that are licensed lgpl. This is covered by: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/LicensingGuidelines#Mixed_Source_Licensing_Scenario Clearly, the finished rasmol binary is gplv2 The binary does not override the licensing of the source files it was built from. The licensing does not only apply to the binary but to the software as a whole. If some of the source files use a less restrictive licensing scheme, such as the LGPL, Fedora's current licensing guidelines want you to specifiy that with and AND in the License tag. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:51:52PM +, Rawhide Report wrote:
mingw32-plib-static-1.8.5-0.fc13.noarch requires mingw32-plib =
0:{version}-{release}
Hmmm ... this is a packaging bug, and since the package was just added
it should have been caught during review.
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Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes
Hello All!
2009/11/28 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:51:52PM +, Rawhide Report wrote:
mingw32-plib-static-1.8.5-0.fc13.noarch requires mingw32-plib =
0:{version}-{release}
Hmmm ... this is a packaging bug, and since the package was just added
it should have been caught during review.
Yes, indeed. I missed this issue.
Stefan, it's time for the next rebuild (with this bogus Requires
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Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: You assume normal desktop users don't have requirement for 3D which is just plain wrong. Every modern desktop has made 3D a key part of the user interface. Even in Linux, this is increasingly the trend with Compiz and now GNOME Shell. And KWin compositing / desktop effects before that (but after Compiz). Compositing is sooner or later going to be enabled by default everywhere. Right, it already is in upstream KDE, we're disabling it by default in Fedora due to the sad driver situation. But with drivers getting more reliable, we may change this. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess both vim and emacs should be available. Both vim and Emacs are obsolescent and hard to use. Kate FTW! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes
Peter Lemenkov wrote: Stefan, it's time for the next rebuild (with this bogus Requires removed), I think. The Requires is not bogus, it's just missing the % signs. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 x86 DVD images
Sir Gallantmon wrote: Why not label it x86_32 instead of i386? That is far less confusing and illustrates that it is 32-bit on the x86 architecture, since x86_64 says it is 64-bit on x86 architecture. Because x86_32 is not an architecture name. You are just creating it from x86_64. 32 bit is i386 or IA32. 64 bit is x86_64 or AMD64 (BTW, I would have preferred AMD64 to be more used for 64 bit, as AMD should be given credit for the creation of the architecture, in contrast to Intel which gave us the disaster called IA64). -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes
Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcxcore.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcvaux.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcv.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libhighgui.so.2 Looks like an ABI-breaking opencv landed. ;( -- Rex -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rpms/getmail/devel getmail-4.14.0.tar.gz,NONE,1.1
knol wrote: Author: knol Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/getmail/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv25409 Added Files: getmail-4.14.0.tar.gz Log Message: another try --- NEW FILE getmail-4.14.0.tar.gz --- [...snip binary...] More important than getmail.spec not belonging in the lookaside cache, the tarball most definitely should NOT be committed to cvs. If you need a hand, please post here or stop by #fedora-devel or #fedora-admin on IRC and I'm sure someone can help get you squared away with a getmail update. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I could never recommend the use of drugs or alcohol to anyone, but they've always worked for me. -- Hunter S. Thompson pgpnDFfcVTcZr.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool
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Re: license issue - combining gplv2 and lgpl sources in a single rpm
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Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 13:17 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2009, Dave Airlie wrote: Don't use radeonhd, the Fedora X team don't support it and never have. I'm thinking it should reallyt be removed from the distro at this point as it makes things worse rather than better. remove your xorg.conf and turn modesetting on and if its still horrible, then we can talk. Well, a couple of Fedoras back, X didn't work except with radeonhd, but now radeon appears to support this one as well; I switched to it, and the CPU issue is gone even with KMS. Now fonts (esp small ones) look very smudgy though. But I suppose there are already bug(s) open on this. I'm guessing with radeonhd you did something to increase or decrease your font size in some dialog box, they had different ideas on DPI to the rest of the world. Try with a test user, though it might just be DPI changes. Dave. -- Pekka Savola You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oykingdom bleeds. Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool
2009/11/29 Carl Byington wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 koji scratch build now works. http://www.five-ten-sg.com/rasmol.spec http://www.five-ten-sg.com/rasmol-2.7.5-5.fc12.src.rpm [..] Cool! Update your review request. -- Rakesh Pandit https://fedoraproject.org/ freedom, friends, features, first -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On 11/28/2009 08:36 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
On 11/28/2009 07:31 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
On 11/27/2009 08:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 20:04 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
Hi,
I did take part in the Radeon test day. Unfortunately the tests did not
really cover 3D and it was difficult to test this using the Live
system.
I did feed back this.
Right...that is mainly a product of what Dave mentioned, that general 3D
functionality is unfortunately right at the bottom of the priority list,
at least until we have drivers that work really solidly for basic
desktop functionality. But I'd be happy to have more extensive 3D tests
in the list for future test days, please do feel free to submit some.
But they are a good idea and I would have thought
could be extended to having a test day after a release has been going
for a month or so so more users could take part.
It's not a bad idea, for sure. I'm not sure _I'd_ do it, though, it's
enough work organizing the test days for the upcoming release without
doing ones for the last release too. :) However, we do have a process
for allowing anyone to organize a Test Day. You can propose one just by
mailing test-list or filing a ticket in QA trac, and we have an SOP for
the whole process of actually hosting one:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
so it'd be perfectly feasible for a community member to organize
post-release graphics test events for the stable release. I'd be happy
to work those into the upcoming test day schedule if you'd be interested
in doing it.
Actually it was not me with NVIDIA. I don't have any systems using this
chipset.
sorry, yes, mistaken identity :)
Yes I take your points, but it is hard for users, quite often, to
test the
system and know how to track down where a bug is occurring and report
it.
Generally users and volunteers do not have the experience of how the
Fedora developer community and its systems work, how the graphics
system
works and how to test and report issues. So some involvement of
developers
to getting a relatively simple testing regime going may help get this
underway.
We do have a page on reporting X.org bugs:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems
which should cover the major points, and which we try to direct people
to wherever we can. Do you think there's anything missing from that?
Anyway, I have been convinced, from what Dave has said, that things
are being
done and have now started trying to use F12 and will attempt to
report back
issues I see.
Thanks a lot.
Some really useful info in How_to_debug_Xorg_problems. I couldn't easily
find it from the main wiki home page however. Maybe a link to this page
marked Graphics issues could be made on the front page (focus users on
improving the
graphics) ?
Could improve the title Graphics problems and bug reporting ?
and add some search terms such as Graphics Problems, 3D problems etc.
Add some info on what to set for Bugzilla fields ?
Maybe the bug reports should include the package version numbers ?
Maybe some simple user tools could be generated to ease and make bug
reporting more useful. Something simple like the following might be
useful:
#!/bin/sh
date bug1
lspci | grep VGA bug1
(echo -n kernel: ; uname -r) bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n xorg-x11-server-Xorg
bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n xorg-x11-drv-ati bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n mesa-dri-drivers bug1
glxinfo | grep OpenGL renderer string bug1
It might be worth including info on how to update from fedora-testing
just graphics related packages. Ie add something like:
includepkgs=kernel* xorg-x11-* mesa*
to the updates-testing section of fedora-updates-testing.repo and
enable the repo ? Also how to revert. Should it state that all tests
should be done with fedora-updates-testing packages ?
I notice there is a new xorg-x11-drv-ati. It does look like things are
moving :)
All we need now is 2 months down the line for Fedora 12.1 to be released
with
updated anaconda and all updated packages in ISO form so that
Joe public can easily install a good working Fedora release ...
Cheers
Terry
Which are the best Bugzilla components to register bugs against:
X11 driver ATI: xorg-x11-drv-ati
3D driver: mesa
DRM: kernel ???
Cheers
Terry
Where is the location of the DRM kernel module master git tree now ?
It used to be at: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/linux-core
Is it now worked on directly withing the kernel source trees ?
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Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 07:31 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:
Some really useful info in How_to_debug_Xorg_problems. I couldn't easily
find it from the main wiki home page however. Maybe a link to this page
marked
Graphics issues could be made on the front page (focus users on improving
the
graphics) ?
That doesn't scale. There's lots of useful pages in the Wiki. We can't
link to all of them from the front page.
There's a link on the front page which says 'Report a new bug', with the
word 'bug' a link to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests . The X page is
linked from that page in the 'Information required for bugs in specific
components' section. That's two steps from the front page.
Could improve the title Graphics problems and bug reporting ?
We have multiple pages of this type, all named
How_to_debug_foobar_problems . We found that the best generic naming
scheme for all such pages.
and add some search terms such as Graphics Problems, 3D problems etc.
I'm not sure you can add search terms to Wiki pages, but if you can,
then sure.
Add some info on what to set for Bugzilla fields ?
That's not appropriate for subject-specific pages; it's discussed in the
main 'how to report bugs' page,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests .
Maybe the bug reports should include the package version numbers ?
That might be useful in some cases, yeah.
Maybe some simple user tools could be generated to ease and make bug
reporting
more useful. Something simple like the following might be useful:
#!/bin/sh
date bug1
lspci | grep VGA bug1
(echo -n kernel: ; uname -r) bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n xorg-x11-server-Xorg bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n xorg-x11-drv-ati bug1
rpm -q --qf %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n mesa-dri-drivers bug1
glxinfo | grep OpenGL renderer string bug1
It's a decent idea, the problem I have with it is you wind up with a
forest of little scripts with no decent maintenance strategy. I'd rather
have a more integrated and properly maintained tool, it may grow out of
abrt in future.
It might be worth including info on how to update from fedora-testing just
graphics related packages. Ie add something like:
includepkgs=kernel* xorg-x11-* mesa*
to the updates-testing section of fedora-updates-testing.repo and
enable the repo ? Also how to revert. Should it state that all tests
should be done with fedora-updates-testing packages ?
The automated systems for handling updates usually handle this (when an
update is submitted to updates-testing that's marked by the maintainer
as fixing a particular bug, an automatic comment is added to the bug
with a note that an update is in updates-testing to be tried).
I notice there is a new xorg-x11-drv-ati. It does look like things are moving
:)
All we need now is 2 months down the line for Fedora 12.1 to be released with
updated anaconda and all updated packages in ISO form so that
Joe public can easily install a good working Fedora release ...
We don't do this except for extreme major brokenness which we somehow
missed during testing, it's not worth the effort involved. Fedora Unity
does updated re-spins, however they haven't got anything out for F11 yet
due to some problems, I believe they're looking for extra volunteers.
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Re: rawhide report: 20091128 changes
well, whether it should have been caught or not, at least it's fixed now... (builds are going on as I type) Sorry, Stefan 2009/11/28, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu: Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Sat Nov 28 08:15:06 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcxcore.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcvaux.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libcv.so.2 kipi-plugins-0.8.0-3.fc13.i686 requires libhighgui.so.2 Looks like an ABI-breaking opencv landed. ;( -- Rex -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
I would argue otherwise, considering the flexibility of both vim and Emacs.
Personally, I like Emacs, and I have a hard time dealing with vi and its
derivatives. But, this really isn't the place to start YET ANOTHER Emacs vs.
vi[m] vs. {INSERT YOUR PREFERRED EDITOR} flamewar.
Argue that on IRC, that's always more fun... ;)
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:
Debayan Banerjee wrote:
Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs
have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the
distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess
both vim and emacs should be available.
Both vim and Emacs are obsolescent and hard to use. Kate FTW!
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Need help with building cryptopp in rawhide
Hi all, I am trying to build cryptopp in rawhide. cryptopp builds fine in in F11 and F12: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1831996 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1831965 But in rawhide cryptopp code is broken (at least cryptest program). cryptest runs in %check section and it hangs up in i686 build and crashes in x86_64 http://nucleo.fedorapeople.org/test-crash.txt https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1831976 I hoped that last svn snapshot 479 will be built without crash but it crashes. How can I build cryptopp in rawhide? See also this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539227 and this discussion in Crypto++ users mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/cryptopp- users/browse_thread/thread/7ce734e479586640 Also 479 snapshot contains public domain implementation of MARS code by Wei Dai. So I have decided to not remove it from cryptopp package. Is this decision right? Alexey Kurov nuc...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/28/2009 02:32 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote: 2009/11/28 Rahul Sundaram Why? It's just shows your personal preference for a editor. Emacs is certainly not needed for software development. Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess both vim and emacs should be available. First of all, I don't think we have enough data to determine which editor is being used by developers. How did you come up with the roughly 50/50 estimate? I am sure we need a editor for development but I might be using Eclipse or even Anjuta? IMO, it can be listed as a optional package in the group and not more than that. Um... emacs is more than just an editor. Advanced users of emacs use emacs as a shell from which they - edit the source - invoke the compile/make process from WITHIN emacs - run the application from WITHIN emacs - if the application crashes, then the debugger comes up WITHIN emacs, and allows them to debug the application, look at the source code, etc. All from within emacs. While I readily admit that most emacs users probably don't use these advanced features of emacs, I would argue that emacs DOES belong in the development group. Those that leave it out of that group are simply unaware of what emcas can and does do... All the best, - -Greg Rahul - -- +-+ Please also check the log file at /dev/null for additional information. (from /var/log/Xorg.setup.log) | Greg Hosler ghos...@redhat.com| +-+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksR84MACgkQ404fl/0CV/Rp1gCgkDOGs0iMO6DTgTMHLCEQugej g+8AoNET7jUKMTXRO0/draYXgQcCp5qD =I4l0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: jack2
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: My proposal is to use alternatives for parallel installation, the way java does. Then the user can switch between jack1 and jack2 as he wants. Is it okay with everyone if I write a specfile for jack2 that uses alternatives? It's ok for me. I can submit review for jack2. I made an initial attempt with alternatives. The 2 packages can be simultaneously installed now. Still there are problems we need to overcome. If anyone wants to follow or contribute to the discussion, please add yourself to the CC at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542288 Thanks! Orcan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 541792] Review Request: woff - Encoding and Decoding for Web Open Font Format(Woff)
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541792 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fedora-fonts-bugs-l...@redh ||at.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 487913] Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew
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[Bug 487913] Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487913 --- Comment #7 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-28 06:06:13 EDT --- This srpm does not build at all. Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vWyOk7 + umask 022 + cd /builddir/build/BUILD + LANG=C + export LANG + unset DISPLAY + cd /builddir/build/BUILD + rm -rf culmus-fancy-0.20051122 + /usr/bin/gzip -dc /builddir/build/SOURCES/comix.tar.gz + /bin/tar -xf - + STATUS=0 + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']' + cd culmus-fancy-0.20051122 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vWyOk7: line 34: cd: culmus-fancy-0.20051122: No such file or directory RPM build errors: error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vWyOk7 (%prep) Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vWyOk7 (%prep) Child returncode was: 1 EXCEPTION: Command failed. See logs for output. It is not easy to write a multi-source srpm. It is definitely not recommended to try when you can go without. Since in your case, upstream already publishes each font set in a separate tar.gz, why don't you just do one simple mono-source srpm per tar.gz, instead of trying to force them all to collaborate in a single monster srpm ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 487913] Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew
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[Bug 477387] [fonts-hebrew-fancy] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477387 Bug 477387 depends on bug 487913, which changed state. Bug 487913 Summary: Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487913 What|Old Value |New Value Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||NOTABUG -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 487913] Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487913 Dan Kenigsberg dan...@cs.technion.ac.il changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #367959|0 |1 is obsolete|| Flag|needinfo?(dan...@cs.technio | |n.ac.il)| --- Comment #8 from Dan Kenigsberg dan...@cs.technion.ac.il 2009-11-28 06:38:12 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=374387) -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=374387) srpm with fixes to several of the problems you are perfectly correct. I should not waste any more of your or anybody else's time about this. I just wanted to leave a useful rpm behind, but uploaded a broken old attempt instead. thanks for your help. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
File fontpackages-1.36.tar.xz uploaded to lookaside cache by nim
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rpms/fontpackages/devel .cvsignore, 1.25, 1.26 fontpackages.spec, 1.32, 1.33 import.log, 1.28, 1.29 sources, 1.25, 1.26
Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24145/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
1.36
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.25
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -p -r1.25 -r1.26
--- .cvsignore 23 Nov 2009 20:42:19 - 1.25
+++ .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 11:54:06 - 1.26
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.35.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.36.tar.xz
Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.32
retrieving revision 1.33
diff -u -p -r1.32 -r1.33
--- fontpackages.spec 23 Nov 2009 20:42:19 - 1.32
+++ fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 11:54:07 - 1.33
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
%global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.35
+Version: 1.36
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
@@ -46,7 +46,8 @@ create font packages.
%package tools
Summary: Tools used to check fonts and font packages
-Requires: fontconfig, fontforge, mutt, make
+Requires: fontconfig, fontforge
+Requires: wget, mutt, make
Requires: rpmlint, yum-utils, fedora-packager
%description tools
@@ -133,6 +134,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%{_bindir}/*
%changelog
+* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.36-1
+
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
- 1.35-1
Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.28
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -p -r1.28 -r1.29
--- import.log 23 Nov 2009 20:42:19 - 1.28
+++ import.log 28 Nov 2009 11:54:07 - 1.29
@@ -26,3 +26,4 @@ fontpackages-1_32-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackag
fontpackages-1_33-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.33-1.fc13.src.rpm:1258836076
fontpackages-1_34-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.34-1.fc13.src.rpm:1258902754
fontpackages-1_35-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.35-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259008917
+fontpackages-1_36-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.36-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259409227
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.25
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -p -r1.25 -r1.26
--- sources 23 Nov 2009 20:42:19 - 1.25
+++ sources 28 Nov 2009 11:54:07 - 1.26
@@ -1 +1 @@
-889ebe16ea65deb3e5ce14612a2f94ec fontpackages-1.35.tar.xz
+145e2684017fc2f593d1abd018bfb343 fontpackages-1.36.tar.xz
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rpms/fontpackages/devel .cvsignore, 1.26, 1.27 fontpackages.spec, 1.33, 1.34 import.log, 1.29, 1.30 sources, 1.26, 1.27
Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv1414/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
1.37
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.26
retrieving revision 1.27
diff -u -p -r1.26 -r1.27
--- .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 11:54:06 - 1.26
+++ .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.27
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.36.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.37.tar.xz
Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.33
retrieving revision 1.34
diff -u -p -r1.33 -r1.34
--- fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 11:54:07 - 1.33
+++ fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.34
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
%global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.36
+Version: 1.37
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
@@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%changelog
* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
-- 1.36-1
+- 1.37-1
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
- 1.35-1
Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.29
retrieving revision 1.30
diff -u -p -r1.29 -r1.30
--- import.log 28 Nov 2009 11:54:07 - 1.29
+++ import.log 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.30
@@ -27,3 +27,4 @@ fontpackages-1_33-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackag
fontpackages-1_34-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.34-1.fc13.src.rpm:1258902754
fontpackages-1_35-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.35-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259008917
fontpackages-1_36-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.36-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259409227
+fontpackages-1_37-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.37-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259411507
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.26
retrieving revision 1.27
diff -u -p -r1.26 -r1.27
--- sources 28 Nov 2009 11:54:07 - 1.26
+++ sources 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.27
@@ -1 +1 @@
-145e2684017fc2f593d1abd018bfb343 fontpackages-1.36.tar.xz
+3d4bf7609a75e183c8e252bc9b563138 fontpackages-1.37.tar.xz
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[Issue 107254] Incorrect ToUnicode table mapping for ligatures in PDF
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[Bug 533919] Review Request: mplus fonts - The M+ family of fonts designed by Coji Morishita
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--- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-28
09:57:38 EDT ---
Here is my package review. Sorry it took longer than usual, was busy hacking a
packager checker script (and given m+ is composed of 43 files, I'm so glad I
took the time to finish the script before looking at it; could not have done
the same level of review manually)
This is an awesome font set, thank you very much for packaging it!
Anyway, the review:
1. (not blocking) you don't include any fontconfig files, they would make your
user's life a lot easier (however, CJK is quite a mess in fontconfig, so maybe
it's better that way for now. Let's see what CJK users think of it)
2. (not blocking) rpmlint complains at the licensing string. I know the MPlus
license has been approved by spot, so it's not a legal problem. However I fear
all the repo-checking scripts will complain at you because of that. Please open
a fedora rpmlint bug so the license gets added to its list. (however upstream
would have made our life easier by using a standard font license such as the
OFL or the GPL with font exception)
3. (not blocking) rpmlint complains some of the lines you used in descriptions
are too long. Please break them in smaller (80) bits
4. (blocking) same problem for at least one for your summaries
5. (not blocking) it seems rpmlint grew a spell-checker in fedora-devel. Please
fix the spelling mistakes it has identified (ie everything which is not a human
name)
6. (blocking) please make sure your Source0 is a full URL pointing to the
source file. That will make your future packager life a lot easier (we have
many sf-hosted projects in Fedora, so it can be done)
7. (not blocking) you don't need to repeat the Group:User Interface/X
line in Fedora releases with a recent rpm
8. (not blocking) it would be nice if each sub-package had a different summary.
What is the difference between 1c and 2c ?
9. (blocking) m++ipa.pe is a build script, it has nothing to do in %doc
10. (not blocking) you don't need to specify %dir %{_fontdir} in the common
subpackage, it will be added automatically to each font subpackage
11. (not blocking) it's mostly cosmetic, but it would be nice if the font files
cased the style names they declare (ie Bold instead of bold). Apps are not
always smart enough to correct this
12. (not blocking) a few font files declare an heavy weight. The standard
qualifier for heavy is Black. That means weight selection won't work as
expected in apps not smart enough to try every possible Black legacy alias.
Please ask upstream to change this (also please have upstream check they did
mean Black and not some other weight). Standard style qualifiers and their
meaning have been described by Microsoft in the following whitepaper:
http://blogs.msdn.com/text/attachment/2249036.ashx
13. (not blocking) the fonts fall just short of complete coverage for several
languages and unicode blocks (we only test if a language/block needs less than
10 glyphs to be finished). Please relay upstream so it gets a chance to
complete them (for example, ab is incomplete because the Unicode consortium
added two glyphs to it this year IIRC)
14. (not blocking) it would be nice if upstream included the text of their
license in the fonts copyright field, and not just Copyright(c) 2009 M+ FONTS
PROJECT without licensing info
15. (not blocking) it would be nice if upstream released a source archive with
source files and build scripts, so we can re-build in Fedora using our own
fontforge version (that helps finding bugs in fontforge, and as our fontforge
improves, so do the fonts we build with it)
Please fix whatever you can and relay the requests to upstream when
appropriate. I'll attach the output of latest repo-font-audit for your package
so you have a copy of rpmlint errors, font naming warnings, and font coverage
analysis.
There are a lot of requests here but your package is quite complex. Given the
number of packaged font files both you and upstream did a very good job, I've
seen much worse in packages that only included a couple font files.
NEEDINFO for now
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Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18417/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
1.38
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.27
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -p -r1.27 -r1.28
--- .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.27
+++ .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.28
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.37.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.38.tar.xz
Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.34
retrieving revision 1.35
diff -u -p -r1.34 -r1.35
--- fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.34
+++ fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.35
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
%global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.37
+Version: 1.38
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
@@ -135,7 +135,8 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%changelog
* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
-- 1.37-1
+- 1.38-1
+— Bugfix release
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
- 1.35-1
Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.30
retrieving revision 1.31
diff -u -p -r1.30 -r1.31
--- import.log 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.30
+++ import.log 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.31
@@ -28,3 +28,4 @@ fontpackages-1_34-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackag
fontpackages-1_35-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.35-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259008917
fontpackages-1_36-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.36-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259409227
fontpackages-1_37-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.37-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259411507
+fontpackages-1_38-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.38-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259423037
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.27
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -p -r1.27 -r1.28
--- sources 28 Nov 2009 12:32:08 - 1.27
+++ sources 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.28
@@ -1 +1 @@
-3d4bf7609a75e183c8e252bc9b563138 fontpackages-1.37.tar.xz
+5c1ec4068beca311a2f01f1940958e19 fontpackages-1.38.tar.xz
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[Bug 477387] [fonts-hebrew-fancy] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
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[Bug 487913] Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew
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[Bug 487913] Review Request: culmus-fancy-fonts - Fancy fonts for Hebrew
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--- Comment #10 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-28
11:36:05 EDT ---
Anyway, review check:
1. (informative) I'm afraid you're going to receive bad font naming warnings
for Comix regularly. The current font naming is acceptable, however some of the
very aggressive font name munging we have to perform because of the brokeness
in other Fedora fonts seems to result in a spurious warning in your case (and I
don't see how to avoid this without renouncing to detect the other broken
fonts)
2. (not blocking) fontlint does not like anka, please relay upstream
3. (not blocking) you do not need to repeat Group: User Interface/X
in Fedora releases that use a recent rpm
4. (not blocking) you do not need to require the common subpackage in your
compat subpackage
5. (blocking) you don't want to obsolete fonts-hebrew-fancy 0.20051122-7, you
want to obsolete fonts-hebrew-fancy 0.20051122-9 (assuming you'll never build
anything newer as fonts-hebrew-fancy)
6. (not blocking) I'm sure users would appreciate descriptions that tell them
the difference between each of those subpackages
7. (not blocking) you don't need the %dir %{_fontdir} in common, it will be
auto-added to every font subpackage
8. (not blocking) your fontconfig rules are incomplete, you need to use the
complete substitution pattern documented in
/usr/share/fontconfig/templates/substitution-font-template-*
9. (not blocking) the way you package the licensing file is dangerous, if
upstream ever changes the licensing file in one package but not the others
you'll end up shipping the wrong legal info
10. (not blocking) some of the fonts have broken encoding in their copyright
info when opened by gnome-font-viewer (no idea which one of gnome-font-viewer
or the fonts is broken)
11. (not blocking) it would be nice if upstream's license included the FSF font
exception that make a GPL font safe to use in a PDF
(Looking at all those clm fonts I realise we should have used clm and not
culmus as foundry prefix in the naming of culmus font rpms. Bah, not worth
fixing it now)
Anyway, apart from the broken obsolete, everything else can be fixed over time
after Fedora import. Please fix the obsolete so I can approve this package
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Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv6719/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
1.39
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.28
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -p -r1.28 -r1.29
--- .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.28
+++ .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 17:02:46 - 1.29
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.38.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.39.tar.xz
Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.35
retrieving revision 1.36
diff -u -p -r1.35 -r1.36
--- fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.35
+++ fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 17:02:46 - 1.36
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
%global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.38
+Version: 1.39
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
@@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%changelog
* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
-- 1.38-1
+- 1.39-1
— Bugfix release
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.31
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -p -r1.31 -r1.32
--- import.log 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.31
+++ import.log 28 Nov 2009 17:02:47 - 1.32
@@ -29,3 +29,4 @@ fontpackages-1_35-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackag
fontpackages-1_36-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.36-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259409227
fontpackages-1_37-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.37-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259411507
fontpackages-1_38-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.38-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259423037
+fontpackages-1_39-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.39-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259427747
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.28
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -p -r1.28 -r1.29
--- sources 28 Nov 2009 15:44:21 - 1.28
+++ sources 28 Nov 2009 17:02:47 - 1.29
@@ -1 +1 @@
-5c1ec4068beca311a2f01f1940958e19 fontpackages-1.38.tar.xz
+f2cc943a755422ff2d100c7e8d723f2a fontpackages-1.39.tar.xz
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[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=225617 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC|nicolas.mail...@laposte.net | AssignedTo|nob...@fedoraproject.org|nicolas.mail...@laposte.net Flag||fedora-review?, ||needinfo?(nob...@fedoraproj ||ect.org) --- Comment #34 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-28 12:32:26 EDT --- Ok, looking at this srpm, most of the warnings and errors are gone. Good! However: 1. (not blocking) fontlint does not like any of the resulting font files, they all need fixing but I guess it's not worse than before 2. (not blocking) the lucida typewriter files declare broken style naming that really needs fixing or apps won't be happy 3. (not blocking) all the files have almost-complete (but not complete) coverage of one or more unicode blocks (probably reflects unicode changes since they were last updated) 4. (blocking) License: Lucida is probably wrong for the base package, it should be GPLv2 and MIT 5. (not blocking) Requires: fontpackages-filesystem is not needed for the base package 6. (blocking) since the bitmap-fonts package does not exist anymore, it needs to be garbage-collected. Please add an Obsoletes: bitmap-fonts 0.3-14 to the bitmap-fixed-fonts subpackage (let's not be fancy, it's not worth it) It seems I was a little optimistic before, this package needs some tweaking yet. But it has progressed a lot -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts
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[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=225617 --- Comment #35 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-28 12:35:03 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=374438) -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=374438) repo-font-audit test results for this package -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts
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[Bug 541792] Review Request: woff - Encoding and Decoding for Web Open Font Format(Woff)
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541792 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Flag||needinfo?(pnem...@redhat.co ||m) --- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-28 12:42:53 EDT --- IMHO woff is a terrible idea, a waste of resources, will only muddy waters, and I doubt defining a new format just in case ie may want to pick it up sometime will end up well, but I guess that if this format starts being used in the field we may as well be able to decode it. However, this package does not even build in mock + umask 022 + cd /builddir/build/BUILD + cd woff-0.20091126 + LANG=C + export LANG + unset DISPLAY + make 'CFLAGS=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic' -j2 cc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -c -o sfnt2woff.o sfnt2woff.c cc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -c -o woff.o woff.c cc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -c -o woff2sfnt.o woff2sfnt.c woff.c:43:18: error: zlib.h: No such file or directory woff.c: In function 'woffEncode': woff.c:255: error: 'uLong' undeclared (first use in this function) woff.c:255: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once woff.c:255: error: for each function it appears in.) woff.c:255: error: expected ';' before 'sourceLen' woff.c:276: error: 'sourceLen' undeclared (first use in this function) woff.c:280: error: 'destLen' undeclared (first use in this function) woff.c:280: warning: implicit declaration of function 'compressBound' woff.c:287: warning: implicit declaration of function 'compress2' woff.c:287: error: 'Bytef' undeclared (first use in this function) woff.c:287: error: expected expression before ')' token woff.c:288: error: expected ')' before 'Bytef' woff.c:288: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of 'type name' woff.c:288: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size woff.c:289: error: 'Z_OK' undeclared (first use in this function) woff.c:135: warning: unused variable 'tableBase' woff.c: In function 'rebuildWoff': woff.c:406: warning: unused variable 'tableData' woff.c: In function 'woffSetMetadata': -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
File fontpackages-1.40.tar.xz uploaded to lookaside cache by nim
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rpms/fontpackages/devel .cvsignore, 1.29, 1.30 fontpackages.spec, 1.36, 1.37 import.log, 1.32, 1.33 sources, 1.29, 1.30
Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18983/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
1.40
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.29
retrieving revision 1.30
diff -u -p -r1.29 -r1.30
--- .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 17:02:46 - 1.29
+++ .cvsignore 28 Nov 2009 20:04:24 - 1.30
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.39.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.40.tar.xz
Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.36
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -p -r1.36 -r1.37
--- fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 17:02:46 - 1.36
+++ fontpackages.spec 28 Nov 2009 20:04:24 - 1.37
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
%global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.39
+Version: 1.40
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
@@ -47,8 +47,8 @@ create font packages.
Summary: Tools used to check fonts and font packages
Requires: fontconfig, fontforge
-Requires: wget, mutt, make
-Requires: rpmlint, yum-utils, fedora-packager
+Requires: curl, make, mutt
+Requires: fedora-packager, rpmlint, yum-utils
%description tools
This package contains tools used to check fonts and font packages
@@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%changelog
* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
-- 1.39-1
+- 1.40-1
— Bugfix release
* Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.32
retrieving revision 1.33
diff -u -p -r1.32 -r1.33
--- import.log 28 Nov 2009 17:02:47 - 1.32
+++ import.log 28 Nov 2009 20:04:24 - 1.33
@@ -30,3 +30,4 @@ fontpackages-1_36-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackag
fontpackages-1_37-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.37-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259411507
fontpackages-1_38-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.38-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259423037
fontpackages-1_39-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.39-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259427747
+fontpackages-1_40-1_fc13:HEAD:fontpackages-1.40-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259438431
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.29
retrieving revision 1.30
diff -u -p -r1.29 -r1.30
--- sources 28 Nov 2009 17:02:47 - 1.29
+++ sources 28 Nov 2009 20:04:24 - 1.30
@@ -1 +1 @@
-f2cc943a755422ff2d100c7e8d723f2a fontpackages-1.39.tar.xz
+a0e5cc0a64a05ecbf0a4ac0f1c90d51a fontpackages-1.40.tar.xz
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How to get FlashPlayer working under 64bit/Fc11
I have tried following the instructions, and have tried what I consider reasonalble alternatives, but I have yet to get flash-reader working on my 64bit machine under firefox. The libflashplayer.so that I download appears to be a 32bit shared object which in itself seems suspect. Can someone PLEASE give me detailed instructions on how to get flash-player working on this machine, or point me as some (working) instructions on the web. Thanks in advance,- this just isnt working... (firefox-3.5.5-1.fc11.x86_64) (vmlinuz-2.6.31.6) -- Reg.Clemens r...@dwf.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get FlashPlayer working under 64bit/Fc11
On 28/11/09 08:26, Reg Clemens wrote: I have tried following the instructions, and have tried what I consider reasonalble alternatives, but I have yet to get flash-reader working on my 64bit machine under firefox. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205642 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bug in /etc/cron.d/mlocate.cron or am I crazy?
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:20:23 -0500, Matthew wrote:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:55:17PM -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
I can't believe this is a real bug. I'm submit it to bugzilla. It's in F10,
11
and 12. I'd be curious to know just how old this bug is.
Contents of mlocate.cron is:
#!/bin/sh
nodevs=$( /proc/filesystems awk '$1 == nodev { print $2 }')
[...]
Unless I'm going cuckoo, I'm guessing that the intent was for line two to
be:
nodevs=$( /proc/filesystems | awk '$1 == nodev { print $2 }')
Have you tried it? The code in the file isn't an error; it's just very
obscure bash syntax. That is, $( /some/file ) is obscure, and $(
/some/file filter-command ) is *really* obscure. Doesn't seem to be
documented in the bash manual -- but it works.
See first chapter of topic REDIRECTION in bash manual.
And putting a | in the middle there doesn't.
That would only work as expected when also replacing with cat.
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Re: Fedora-release RPMS ?
Il Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:55:15 -0500, Tony Nelson ha scritto: I'll keep also the show-leaves one. I'd like to keep the system clean, as I was used to do in Debian. But Fedora lacks unmarkauto, so you may get more leaves than you might want. It also makes yum slower. :-( So, how do you, fedorians, keep your system clean? Sometimes I install a software just to try it, or thinking it will be useful one day, later I clean up all the stuff and I would like to remove all the uneeded libs, packages too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 KDE - slow response when clicking task bar items
Hello Everyone, On November 26, 2009, Craig White wrote: Since I upgraded to F12, I have noticed that it is very slow to respond to clicks in the task bar - i.e., a long delay if I click the 'fedora' start button or any of the applications in the 'Task Switcher' widget. Discernibly slower than F11 FWIW, I am booting with nomodesetting option and using 'nv' driver with an xorg.conf setting (the same as I was using in F11) because I simply cannot get 1280x1024 with the nouveau driver, even with 'nomodesetting' boot option. Anyone else notice this? Is there something I am doing wrong? I've noticed exactly the same behaviour, and its driving me nuts... clicking on the Start Menu takes ~10-15s to pop up, but starting apps on my panel by clicking on the icon works nice and fast. KRunner also takes ~10-15s to appear if I hit ALT-F2, and more often than not bringing up the desktop context menu is fast but it then stalls when trying to disappear again. First off, this bug specifically refers to the use of the binary NVidia driver, which I know at least one of the posters on this thread says that they are not using. But, the manifestations described are just like what you all are describing, and they are exactly what I WAS experiencing with Fedora 12: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533620 Also, check this out: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#Problems_when_using_KDE_with_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_graphics_driver.2C_some_Radeon_dual- head_configurations.2C_or_nouveau_with_KMS_disabled In addition, I needed to follow the steps that appear under the Fedora 12 Special Notes section on the below linked page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html Applying the information contained in the above links fixed my problem, which at least LOOKS exactly like what you are describing. If you have any questions about the various test builds of xorg that are involved in making all of this possible, I will get back to you after I get home from work today... Steven P. Ulrick P.S.: For some reason I have been having issues with KDE's KMail and the breaking of links. So at least one of the above quoted links might be broken... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Can someone point me to a good step by step howto to set up Windows XP installed from an iso in a VM in F12 using kvm. There are some XP applications that only work in XP itself rather than in wine or Crossover. I have not tinkered with virtualised machines before so this is a learning curve for me. I did see the http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ guide on virtualization but there seems to be quite a number of changes in the details of what is presented on screen when starting to install a new VM on my screen compared to what is in the guide. The laptop in which I want to do this does have the virtualisation flags so in principle it should be possible. It is not clear where the virtualised machine would get installed by default - but it looks like it would be in /var/lib/libvirt/images which is on the root partition in my case so I made a new directory in a bigger partition with plenty of space, and bind mounted it ahead of trying to create a new VM. Thanks in advance. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Default keyring for NetworkManager
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:26:39 + Marko Vojinovic wrote: [ ... ] I simply want to connect to my wireless automatically upon boot and not being asked for any passwords. I have also enabled autologin in kdm in order to get logged in automatically (this works beautifully, btw). So how do I make this work? Is there a way for nm-applet to store the WPA key locally and not use the keyring? Is there a way to tell the keyring that nm- applet does not need a password to access it? I'd be happy with any option that works with no typing involved. First of all: Do not use Network Manager. I use wpa_supplicant with the appropriate /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf. Note that the /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant file must be run *before* the network starts. I personally usually just edit the /etc/init.d/wpa_supplicant so that it will start before network service (chkconfig: - 23 88 -- chkconfig: - 9 90) and everything works. --Frank Elsner -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get FlashPlayer working under 64bit/Fc11
On Saturday 28 November 2009 08:26:51 Reg Clemens wrote: Can someone PLEASE give me detailed instructions on how to get flash-player working on this machine, or point me as some (working) instructions on the web. (1) Clean up all potential mess from previous attempts (like nspluginwrapper, any existing flash plugin etc...). (2) Download the 64bit flash player from here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html (3) Unpack it, and copy the .so file in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ directory: $ gunzip libflashpl* $ tar xvf libflashpl* $ su # cp libflashpl*.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ (you need to be root to perform the copy). (4) Restart firefox. (5) Point it to about:plugins page and make sure that flash plugin is on the list. (6) Go to www.youtube.com and try it out. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Saturday 28 November 2009 11:21:51 Mike Cloaked wrote: Can someone point me to a good step by step howto to set up Windows XP installed from an iso in a VM in F12 using kvm. There are some XP applications that only work in XP itself rather than in wine or Crossover. I have not tinkered with virtualised machines before so this is a learning curve for me. If this is your first time, I can suggest to try out VirtualBox: yum install VirtualBox-OSE (it's in rpmfusion-free repo). It is far more user-friendly (from my POV) for a first-timer. Read the manuals in order to learn what is possible. After your first install, you'll probably figure out that you could have made better choices in some areas etc., and you'll probably go make another VM, and another, and... :-) I remember that my third VM install was pretty much perfect for me (it was under VMWare at the time). Now under VirtualBox I have it all working, even 3D acceleration (games and such). It's typically faster to install XP from an .iso file than from the CD drive itself. Clean, fast and useful. All in all, it's really easy, and fun to do! :-) It is not clear where the virtualised machine would get installed by default - but it looks like it would be in /var/lib/libvirt/images which is on the root partition in my case so I made a new directory in a bigger partition with plenty of space, and bind mounted it ahead of trying to create a new VM. KVM has that path as default. AFAIK, the problem is that if you change it, SELinux will start yelling at you --- be prepared to deal with it, chcon your custom directory, semanage policies etc... VirtualBox doesn't have those problems. ;-) HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone point me to a good step by step howto to set up Windows XP installed from an iso in a VM in F12 using kvm. There are some XP applications that only work in XP itself rather than in wine or Crossover. I have not tinkered with virtualised machines before so this is a learning curve for me. If this is your first time, I can suggest to try out VirtualBox: yum install VirtualBox-OSE (it's in rpmfusion-free repo). It is far more user-friendly (from my POV) for a first-timer. Read the manuals in order to learn what is possible. After your first install, you'll probably figure out that you could have made better choices in some areas etc., and you'll probably go make another VM, and another, and... :-) I remember that my third VM install was pretty much perfect for me (it was under VMWare at the time). Now under VirtualBox I have it all working, even 3D acceleration (games and such). It's typically faster to install XP from an .iso file than from the CD drive itself. Clean, fast and useful. All in all, it's really easy, and fun to do! :-) It is not clear where the virtualised machine would get installed by default - but it looks like it would be in /var/lib/libvirt/images which is on the root partition in my case so I made a new directory in a bigger partition with plenty of space, and bind mounted it ahead of trying to create a new VM. KVM has that path as default. AFAIK, the problem is that if you change it, SELinux will start yelling at you --- be prepared to deal with it, chcon your custom directory, semanage policies etc... VirtualBox doesn't have those problems. ;-) I can also recommend VirtualBox. I am running XP on VirtualBox, which is fast and simple. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
2009/11/28 Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com: --SNIP-- I can also recommend VirtualBox. I am running XP on VirtualBox, which is fast and simple. Paul Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system. -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote: I can also recommend VirtualBox. I am running XP on VirtualBox, which is fast and simple. Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system. You just need to install Guest Additions: http://seogadget.co.uk/how-to-install-virtualbox-guest-additions/ Afterwards, set the directory to be shared in the virtual machine settings. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
Tim: We had the smolt thing that sends a hardware report off to a database. There's a certain presumption that regular monthly updates by your client indicates that your hardware does actually work. See: http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/ (and don't forget to have a look at the various statistics). Mike Cloaked: Indeed and a minute ago I notice that currently the OS page shows F11 50.7% and F12 11.6% - I wonder if the ratio of F12 to F11 users will change markedly over the next month? I was also thinking of the devices... You get statistics for numbers of certain types of hardware. So, lots of people with a certain graphics card, for instance, suggests that it works. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
2009/11/28 Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote: --SNIP-- Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system. You just need to install Guest Additions: http://seogadget.co.uk/how-to-install-virtualbox-guest-additions/ Afterwards, set the directory to be shared in the virtual machine settings. Paul I'll try it tomorrow. Thank you! -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- SIP: hi...@ekiga.net -- pub 1024D/085B139A -- Powered by Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDMI-connected flat panel keeps blanking
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:33:40 -0500 (EST) Robert P. J. Day wrote: the setup seems correct, except for the persistent blanking. thoughts? I went through that for years thinking it was an ATI driver problem, but finally found it was the display itself (in my case a Westinghouse Digital HDTV monitor). I found if I used a different input on the monitor, the blanking went away. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Hiisi wrote: 2009/11/28 Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote: --SNIP-- Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system. You just need to install Guest Additions: Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM, and also whether or not there is communication out of the VM onto the network interface? Another point I am interested in is whether it is possible to drop a file using the desktop file manager gui from Fedora into the XP VM window and open the file in an app within the XP VM? I am thinking of, for example, taking a Word file and dropping it into the XP VM so that it opens in Word 2003, say, and has the full Windows edit facilities. Or similar for an excel file and have it utilise the Solver macro, or Analysis package within the XP environment - so that if someone sends such a file in email then you can get it from the email attachment in Fedora to the running application in the VM in an easy way? I'd like to know what the limits are for using the VM before going down the road of setting it all up. Additionally if anyone has used kvm how does qemu feature in this scheme - is it needed at all for running an XP VM? I can see that VirtualBox is recommended by people who have used it but I would like to be able to compare VirtualBox with KVM in terms of not only ease of setting up, but also performance and usability once it is set up. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Setting-up-a-VM-to-run-XP-in-an-up-to-date-F12-box--tp26552338p26553771.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On 28/11/09 14:49, Mike Cloaked wrote: --snip-- Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM, and also whether or not there is communication out of the VM onto the network interface? --snip-- Maybe check here: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-virt These are the guys do the kvm for fedora Check the archive for a feel. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fwd: root's ssh-agent $SSH_AUTH_SOCK
Original Message Subject:root's ssh-agent $SSH_AUTH_SOCK Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:10:20 + From: Martin Airs camberw...@gmail.com Reply-To: camberw...@gmail.com To: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com Good evening all, I've setup an authorized key for a server I regularly use, but when I tried to run ssh-add as root, it wouldn't work until I had copied the SSH_AUTH_SOCK environment variable from my normal user. I wonder if anyone can tell me the correct way get this variable set automatically I can run.. eval `ssh-agent` which does sets the variable for me, but I don't want to put that command in say the .bashrc, or should I??? Thanks in advance Martin Airs ps. I'm using F12 X86_64 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: root's ssh-agent $SSH_AUTH_SOCK
On 11/28/2009 02:04 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:10:20AM +, Martin Airs wrote: I've setup an authorized key for a server I regularly use, but when I tried to run ssh-add as root, it wouldn't work until I had copied the SSH_AUTH_SOCK environment variable from my normal user. Wait, back up a second. Well, two seconds. First of all, off-topic on the devel list -- this should be moved to the regular fedora list. (Please direct replies there.) Second, why do you wnt to do this as the root user directly? There's probably a better way to accomplish what you want to do in the first place. Sorry about that, my bad There's no massive security risk going on, its all private use and nothing critical I managed to ssh into the server as my normal user with out asking me for a password, which I thought was pretty nifty, so I thought i could do the same as root is all. oh well, I'll just su when i get in as normal user, not to worry thanks anyway, and sorry for the noise on your devel list Martin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 06:49 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! In my opinion, kvm is not quite ready for prime time. First of all, it doesn't work at all unless your system has hardware virtualization support, in both the BIOS and the CPU. When it does work, it's a little rough around the edges. I frequently get Python stack dumps when I try to do things like shut down a VM. That said, I do use it on a couple of Dell systems with Core Duo processors, one desktop at work and one laptop and it works well enough for my needs. But I would never try to use it in a production environment. At work, we use Xen under CentOS 5 and RHEL 5, and at home on a Pentium 4 system without the necessary hardware virtualization, I am a happy VirtualBox user. One thing I have never been able to do under any VM system is to sync my Palm Pilot via an XP VM. It sees the USB device but it never gets a connection. This works fine with a native XP boot. Syncing the Palm to Evolution works OK but it lacks the conduits to sync to the proprietary calendaring system at work so I'm stuck with Windoze for that. --Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:49:44 -0800 (PST) Mike Cloaked wrote: Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! I'm running XP under KVM (obviously you need KVM capable hardware), and it works fine, but when installing under fedora 11, the virt-manager tool didn't create an ACPI capable KVM, so I couldn't shutdown the machine via normal shutdown menu item. I eventually re-installed, telling virt-manager I was installing vista (which did get ACPI). I run smb on fedora and auto mount a network file system in the XP box to get access to more storage than the small virtual disk I setup during the install. The virt-manager tool does support USB pass-through, but my one attempt to test it didn't work very well. I tried passing my all-in-one HP photosmart device to it, and XP just bluescreened randomly whenever it was connected :-). You also don't get much in the way of emulated video. I tried accessing ESPN-360 since they don't support linux, and the installer said the video wasn't good enough. As far as access to the outside world goes, I destroyed the default NAT based network, and created a bridge, which works much better for my - my virtual machines act just like any other machines in my local network. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 KDE - slow response when clicking task bar items
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 04:43 -0600, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone, On November 26, 2009, Craig White wrote: Since I upgraded to F12, I have noticed that it is very slow to respond to clicks in the task bar - i.e., a long delay if I click the 'fedora' start button or any of the applications in the 'Task Switcher' widget. Discernibly slower than F11 FWIW, I am booting with nomodesetting option and using 'nv' driver with an xorg.conf setting (the same as I was using in F11) because I simply cannot get 1280x1024 with the nouveau driver, even with 'nomodesetting' boot option. Anyone else notice this? Is there something I am doing wrong? I've noticed exactly the same behaviour, and its driving me nuts... clicking on the Start Menu takes ~10-15s to pop up, but starting apps on my panel by clicking on the icon works nice and fast. KRunner also takes ~10-15s to appear if I hit ALT-F2, and more often than not bringing up the desktop context menu is fast but it then stalls when trying to disappear again. First off, this bug specifically refers to the use of the binary NVidia driver, which I know at least one of the posters on this thread says that they are not using. But, the manifestations described are just like what you all are describing, and they are exactly what I WAS experiencing with Fedora 12: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533620 Also, check this out: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#Problems_when_using_KDE_with_the_proprietary_NVIDIA_graphics_driver.2C_some_Radeon_dual- head_configurations.2C_or_nouveau_with_KMS_disabled In addition, I needed to follow the steps that appear under the Fedora 12 Special Notes section on the below linked page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html Applying the information contained in the above links fixed my problem, which at least LOOKS exactly like what you are describing. If you have any questions about the various test builds of xorg that are involved in making all of this possible, I will get back to you after I get home from work today... I am using the free 'nv' driver as even with nomodesetting boot option, I could not get 1280x1024 out of 'nouveau' - only a max of 1024x768 which just simply isn't enough. I have changed my boot parameters so the next boot will be nouveau.modeset=0 (I gather this to mean it will allow modesetting on 'nv' but not nouvea which if permitted, prevents me from using 'nv') and I will see what happens but I have a lot of things going on that I don't want to lose track of if I reboot now. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bug in /etc/cron.d/mlocate.cron or am I crazy?
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 09:53:47AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: Have you tried it? The code in the file isn't an error; it's just very obscure bash syntax. That is, $( /some/file ) is obscure, and $( /some/file filter-command ) is *really* obscure. Doesn't seem to be documented in the bash manual -- but it works. See first chapter of topic REDIRECTION in bash manual. Yeah, not seein' it. Wouldn't be the first time I've been dense; can you point me at the exact text? And putting a | in the middle there doesn't. That would only work as expected when also replacing with cat. Of course. -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org Senior Systems Architect Cyberinfrastructure Labs / Instructional Research Computing Computing Information Technology Harvard School of Engineering Applied Sciences -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12: Encrypted external USB Drive doesn't appears on desktop
Hi, i've a LUKS encrypted external 640GB WD USB Drive with ext4. When i plug in the drive with Fedora 11, a prompt appears to enter the password. After this, the drives icon is easy accessible on the desktop. Now i've tried this with Fedora 12. Nothing happend, the drive doesn't appears in Computer but i can mount and access it manually. # cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc1 external # mkdir /mnt/external # mount -t ext4 /dev/mapper/external /mnt/external A none encrypted USB Stick work as expected. May i miss something? Thanks for help. Greetz Dirk /var/log/messages after plugin the usb drive: Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=1001 Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: Product: External HDD Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: Manufacturer: Western Digital Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: SerialNumber: 574D41535932313438363330 Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Nov 28 17:30:21 crow kernel: scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD 6400AAK External 1.05 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 1250263728 512-byte logical blocks: (640 GB/596 GiB) Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sdc: sdc1 Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Nov 28 17:30:26 crow kernel: sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with using wireless usb adapter
Brian Wood wrote: I'm having some trouble getting internet/ssh working over a Linksys wireless usb adapter -- model WUSB54GSC. I did get it working one time, but don't know why or if I did something to make it work. I see the access point I want to use and connect to it. That seems to work. Then iwconfig reports lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wlan2 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:brian Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432 GHz Access Point: 00:1C:10:3B:06:97 Bit Rate=36 Mb/s Tx-Power=14 dBm RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr=2346 B Link Quality=57/100 Signal level=57/100 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 But bringing up a URL or ssh'ing to another machine doesn't work. I'm using Fedora 12. If I use an ethernet cable instead of the wireless, everything works fine. Any ideas on what to check or do? I see two things here, one is that there is no IP on that wlan2, indicating that it is connected but not routed. The other is that it's wlan2 insteadl of wlan0, indicating that something is going on, since even with the built-in (802.11g) and plug-in (802.11n) NICs, I have wlan0 and wlan1, so they always do start and zero and go consecutively. Try: - dhclient wlan2 - netstat -r and post the results. I would expect you will get connections after that. Your dmesg output should have information of why that's wlan2, please read and report. Also in a separate matter ... [_...snip..._] -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get FlashPlayer working under 64bit/Fc11
On Saturday 28 November 2009 08:26:51 Reg Clemens wrote: Can someone PLEASE give me detailed instructions on how to get flash-player working on this machine, or point me as some (working) instructions on the web. (1) Clean up all potential mess from previous attempts (like nspluginwrapper, any existing flash plugin etc...). (2) Download the 64bit flash player from here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html (3) Unpack it, and copy the .so file in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ directory: $ gunzip libflashpl* $ tar xvf libflashpl* $ su # cp libflashpl*.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ (you need to be root to perform the copy). (4) Restart firefox. (5) Point it to about:plugins page and make sure that flash plugin is on the list. (6) Go to www.youtube.com and try it out. Thanks, but not quite. Instead of getting a screen telling me to load flash-player, I just get an empty light-blue screen, and nothing happens. I have been testing with CNN news, which is the application I really want to use flash with. There, I get the above behaviour with all video clips. On youtube, mabe 1/2 or 1/3 of the video clips play, but the rest give the blue screen result. I will assume that the ones that play are something other than flash. Any further thoughts on what I may have missed? -- Reg.Clemens r...@dwf.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get FlashPlayer working under 64bit/Fc11
On 11/28/2009 05:22 PM, Reg Clemens wrote: On Saturday 28 November 2009 08:26:51 Reg Clemens wrote: Can someone PLEASE give me detailed instructions on how to get flash-player working on this machine, or point me as some (working) instructions on the web. (1) Clean up all potential mess from previous attempts (like nspluginwrapper, any existing flash plugin etc...). (2) Download the 64bit flash player from here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html (3) Unpack it, and copy the .so file in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ directory: $ gunzip libflashpl* $ tar xvf libflashpl* $ su # cp libflashpl*.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ (you need to be root to perform the copy). (4) Restart firefox. (5) Point it to about:plugins page and make sure that flash plugin is on the list. (6) Go to www.youtube.com and try it out. Thanks, but not quite. Instead of getting a screen telling me to load flash-player, I just get an empty light-blue screen, and nothing happens. I have been testing with CNN news, which is the application I really want to use flash with. There, I get the above behaviour with all video clips. On youtube, mabe 1/2 or 1/3 of the video clips play, but the rest give the blue screen result. I will assume that the ones that play are something other than flash. Any further thoughts on what I may have missed? A guy in fedoraforums made an rpm for x86_64. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showpost.php?p=1119587postcount=1 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Greg Woods wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 06:49 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! In my opinion, kvm is not quite ready for prime time. First of all, it doesn't work at all unless your system has hardware virtualization support, in both the BIOS and the CPU. When it does work, it's a little rough around the edges. I frequently get Python stack dumps when I try to do things like shut down a VM. Just to clarify, are you talking about KVM or how it behaves with a layer of libvirt added? I have been running this desktop in KVM from command line since FC4, when RH8 because a security issue even with strong firewalling. I have production FC10 desktops, and web, dns, and mail servers running in VMs, backed on CentOS-5.3. To the extent that ever do anything with Windows, I have both XP and Win7 VMs that boot and do browsing and run a few tests. For security I run them off a shadow of a naked install, so I can delete the shadow to prevent infection. I wouldn't hesitate to run production stuff under KVM, but my solid experience has all being run from CLI, I developed scripts long before libvirt was written. Actually before KVM was in the official kernel, as I recall, it was a patch for a while. That said, I do use it on a couple of Dell systems with Core Duo processors, one desktop at work and one laptop and it works well enough for my needs. But I would never try to use it in a production environment. At work, we use Xen under CentOS 5 and RHEL 5, and at home on a Pentium 4 system without the necessary hardware virtualization, I am a happy VirtualBox user. One thing I have never been able to do under any VM system is to sync my Palm Pilot via an XP VM. It sees the USB device but it never gets a connection. This works fine with a native XP boot. Syncing the Palm to Evolution works OK but it lacks the conduits to sync to the proprietary calendaring system at work so I'm stuck with Windoze for that. I have not tried direct access to USB other than as a test, and it worked for that small task, driving a printer. There may well be evil lurking here. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:49:44 -0800 (PST) Mike Cloaked wrote: Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! I'm running XP under KVM (obviously you need KVM capable hardware), and it works fine, but when installing under fedora 11, the virt-manager tool didn't create an ACPI capable KVM, so I couldn't shutdown the machine via normal shutdown menu item. I eventually re-installed, telling virt-manager I was installing vista (which did get ACPI). I run smb on fedora and auto mount a network file system in the XP box to get access to more storage than the small virtual disk I setup during the install. The virt-manager tool does support USB pass-through, but my one attempt to test it didn't work very well. I tried passing my all-in-one HP photosmart device to it, and XP just bluescreened randomly whenever it was connected :-). You also don't get much in the way of emulated video. I tried accessing ESPN-360 since they don't support linux, and the installer said the video wasn't good enough. As far as access to the outside world goes, I destroyed the default NAT based network, and created a bridge, which works much better for my - my virtual machines act just like any other machines in my local network. The last paragraph is the only one I can comment on, me too! I set up a bridge, moved my NICs to it, changed my routing, and I can run servers on it just fine. I run my own internal DHCP, so each machine has it's own MAC address and gets the IP from that. If I need to change the IP for some odd reason, I can do it in the DHCP server config, instead of on individual machines. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 12:37 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Greg Woods wrote: Just to clarify, are you talking about KVM or how it behaves with a layer of libvirt added? I'm talking about using it through the GUI provided with Fedora. Since in our environment our operations staff has to be able to access and manipulate any production VM's, command line is out of the question. If the GUI doesn't work, it's not ready for prime time. --Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora-release RPMS ?
Il Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:13:19 +, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: man package-cleanup (yum install yum-utils if you don't have it) Ok, wonderful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
fred smith wrote:
Hi!
I've looked thru the forums and done some googling but I don't see an
answer THAT WORKS for this question:
How to change the default GDM background/wallpaper to some other image?
I've tried all the things listed in the forums and none of them works,
including (but not limited to) copying the image I want into
/usr/share/backgrounds/images then running this command:
gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --set --type
string /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
/usr/share/backgrounds/images/Fistmaster.FullHD.0190.jpg
having done that either log off or reboot and voila! no change at all! :(
Could you explain a little more what you are trying to do?
If you're just trying to change the wallpaper, what happens when you just use
the standard menu to do that? Or are you trying to do something more?
What behavior do you get when you (from memory)
system-preferences-appearance-background-add-{select a file}
and if by default you mean system wide, the [make default] button may help
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F12 Installation ??
Hello all, I Had the miss-fortune to loos f11 working flawlessly up to the last update. I email for help, I promptly received some suggestions unfortunately did not help, the hard driver was damaged. thank you so much for help anyway. I thought that this was my time to upgrade to F12. I started by install Windows xp in to a new SATA driver and then f12 in an IDE Driver (same configuration as before) the installation went OK, but on boot up showed a blank screen, could not boot windows also, or if there was I din't know how. At this point I start to suspect that the combination af SATA and IDE may have some thing to do (but I had the same combination with f11 and worked out fine) so I reinstalled both windows in 320GB and and F12 in 120GB both SATA same result. Next I installed both in the same disk this time f12 boot but not windows, in the boot menu, however, there is the line with word Other Here is where I am now. Should I reinstall windows? Or is there on easy way to get it back? Any suggestion is greatly appreciated. A thought, I downloaded the iso files couple weeks ago, the files date are 11/2 and 11/8/2009 could have been a bug on the installation file?, is the iso file update regularly? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Trying to get Audio Working on F11
OK, I seem to have backed myself into a hole in the ground. I have recently installed F11. I noticed that sound was not playing on the few videos that would play from youtube (the rest of the videos are waiting for me to get flash working a separate problem). I tried aplay, me and root. Nothing. I removed pulseaudio with yum remove pulseaudio and now aplay could play sounds as root, but not me. I checked /dev/snd, and it is 660 root and audio. I changed that to 666 and I could play sounds as me. OK, back up, changed it back to 660, and added myself to the audio group. FOR SOME REASON this did now work. Mumph, no sound as me. OK, decided to back up again. Reinstalled pulseaudio, but was back to where I was to start with, no audio. Reremoved pulseaudio. But NOW I dont get sound with aplay under any conditions, not me, not root. So, I dont know where to go next. I currently have no sould from aplay, nomatter who the user. Things were so much simpler back before this pulseaudio thing came along. Mumph. Any thoughts on what I should try next, and please dont suggest reinstalling F11... -- Reg.Clemens r...@dwf.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
On Saturday 28 November 2009 14:49:44 Mike Cloaked wrote: Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! As others can say, it requires appropriate hardware, and is a bit rough on the edges. Other than that, the user interface for setting up a VM is not as user- friendly as the one in VirtualBox, hence my suggestion to use the latter, especially if you are a newbie to this. Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM, In order to have full support for USB you need to use the closed-source VirtualBox from SUN (they have their own yum repo that serves it, look up on www.virtualbox.org). The difference between the closed and open source version is minimal, and consists mainly in support for USB and remote-desktop facility. In other words, install the SUN closed source version, and you have USB. and also whether or not there is communication out of the VM onto the network interface? Of course there is :-) . This is a bit complicated subject, there are four conceptually different ways of setting up networking for the virtual machine. Setting any of them up amounts just to an appropriate click in the wizard, but you need to understand how each functions and decide which is best for you. Only one can be set up for a given VM. They are as follows (N.B. I don't know exact names, I'm writing this from memory): 1) Bridged network --- your VM will have an independent network device which is connected to your ISP directly, on equal footing as your host computer (in reality the same cable/wireless is used, but that is not important). The upside is that it gets to use DHCP and all in the same way as provided to you by your ISP (or router, or whatever you are actually connected to). The guest is visible from the Internet as much as your host machine is. The Internet is visible from the guest as much as it is from the host. The downside is that all communication between your host and guest machines goes through that router: from your VM through host cable to the router and back through host cable to the host network card. This can be a bit inefficient if you have a slow connection and want to transfer inordinate amount of data between host and guest. You can also catch a virus/worm/whatever from the Internet if your guest does not have a proper firewall and stuff. 2) Virtual NAT --- your host will be provided with an additional virtual ethernet device, connected to a virtual switch which is connected to the guest. Imagine that you have two boxes and a switch --- both are connected to each other through a switch, and one (the host) is connected to your ISP with another eth card. That is the setup. The virtual switch provides DHCP for both host and guest (it is automatically set up to not interfere with your ISP's DHCP), sets up host as the guest's gateway and all. The upside is that you have a 1GBit connection between host and guest, regardless of any physical network. The guest is visible only from the host, not from the Internet, while Internet is visible from both (IOW, the virtual switch provides NAT for guest). You cannot catch a virus by just being connected, you need to do something stupid yourself (such as visiting suspicious websites with Internet Explorer or such). I recommend this for simple home use. 3) Host-only network --- same setup as virtual NAT, just guest is not allowed to access the Internet. It can see only the host, nothing else. 4) No networking --- obvious. Since you are a first-timer, go with virtual NAT, and don't worry about anything. :-) Another point I am interested in is whether it is possible to drop a file using the desktop file manager gui from Fedora into the XP VM window and open the file in an app within the XP VM? I'm not sure about dragdrop, as I never use it (even in Linux itself). What you can surely do is to save the file into a shared folder and then dragdrop it from within the VM. It can amount to total of two dragdrops: one on the host (to get the file from the attachment into a shared folder) and one on the guest (to get the file from the shared folder into an app). File sharing is done via samba, you get the Network Neighborhood and all that in XP for the virtual network. It is not on by default, you need to set it up (this was mentioned in the thread). There is also one very useful thing --- copy/paste mechanism works across host/guests, albeit only for text-only contents AFAIK. Copy text here, paste it there, as if on the same machine. This becomes available (along with many other things) once you install guest additions, custom drivers for the guest that make life better and easier. :-) I'd like to know what the limits are for using the VM before going down the road of setting it all up. Imagine two computers connected in a LAN. Anything that you can do with those, you can do in virtualized
Re: changing GDM background image on F12
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Could you explain a little more what you are trying to do?
If you're just trying to change the wallpaper, what happens when you
just use the standard menu to do that? Or are you trying to do
something more?
What behavior do you get when you (from memory)
system-preferences-appearance-background-add-{select a file}
and if by default you mean system wide, the [make default] button may help
As the subject says, he's trying to change the background for the GDM
screen. Since GDM doesn't provide a panel, there isn't really a
convenient way to browse to system-preferences-appearance... :)
Using gconftool-2 is generally the best way to achieve this, and works
fine for me on F-12 (as it has in past releases). Why it's not
working for Fred remains to be seen.
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firefox repeatedly crashes while trying to save bookmark
I start firefox (64bit) with one tab pointed at start.fedoraproject.com I try to save a bookmark to this page by bringing up the bookmark this page dialog from the menubar. I click on the show all bookmarks folders arrow and I get a dialog box showing all my bookmarks and bookmark folders. I start to scroll down the list and when I get about 3/4ths down the page firefox crashes. This has occurred every time I have tried it. I'm running latest FF on 64bit F12. Anyone else experienced this? Paolo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM, In order to have full support for USB you need to use the closed-source VirtualBox from SUN Or... you can use KVM and Fedora's built-in Virt Manager. It does support USB and PCI device passthrough. I'm not sure where this stuff about VirtualBox being more user-friendly comes from. Maybe I'm not the average user, but there are things I can do with libvirt in Fedora that make it very user friendly, but I don't think the same level of control is available in VirtualBox, so I would rate it as less user-friendly for me. e.g. I have some RHEL and CentOS VMs, they're for development. I don't run them all the time, they don't have a GUI. If I want them on, I can do: # virsh start RHEL1 # virsh console RHEL1 do whatever I need # virsh shutdown RHEL1 My advice would be to try using Virt-Manager in Fedora (providing you have recent hardware) and see how you get on. It really really isn't that difficult. If it's not working for you, then investigate VirtualBox or even VMWare Player. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get FlashPlayer working under 64bit/Fc11
On Saturday 28 November 2009 17:22:05 Reg Clemens wrote: On Saturday 28 November 2009 08:26:51 Reg Clemens wrote: Can someone PLEASE give me detailed instructions on how to get flash-player working on this machine, or point me as some (working) instructions on the web. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html Instead of getting a screen telling me to load flash-player, I just get an empty light-blue screen, and nothing happens. I've never experienced anything remotely similar to an empty light-blue screen in firefox. It reminds me of a bad setup of direct rendering in graphics drivers, though. Like mplayer displaying a blue screen instead of a movie or such. But nothing like that in a *browser*, ever. I have been testing with CNN news, which is the application I really want to use flash with. There, I get the above behaviour with all video clips. On youtube, mabe 1/2 or 1/3 of the video clips play, but the rest give the blue screen result. I will assume that the ones that play are something other than flash. I don't watch CNN news, but I fired it up now just to check my flash. Everything seems to work, all clips and news, CNN Live streaming, etc... Live streaming is a bit jerky, but I guess that's just because of the bandwidth and such. Every clip on youtube that I tried works. This bluescreen stuff is suspicious. What graphics card do you use? Drivers? Do you have working 2D, 3D, xv in mplayer and such? Any issues with those? Any further thoughts on what I may have missed? Try to use a different browser to testcompare? Konqueror, opera, or such? Point them to the same flash plugin .so and try them out instead? Or yum remove firefox followed by yum install firefox followed by reinstalling the .so ? Or create a new dummy user, log in and try it from there? Btw, I'm on F12, 64bit. Maybe upgrade? Though firefox is the same version, I guess it shouldn't matter... HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bug in /etc/cron.d/mlocate.cron or am I crazy?
On 11/28/09 03:53, quoth Michael Schwendt:
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:20:23 -0500, Matthew wrote:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:55:17PM -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
I can't believe this is a real bug. I'm submit it to bugzilla. It's in F10,
11
and 12. I'd be curious to know just how old this bug is.
Contents of mlocate.cron is:
#!/bin/sh
nodevs=$( /proc/filesystems awk '$1 == nodev { print $2 }')
[...]
Unless I'm going cuckoo, I'm guessing that the intent was for line two to
be:
nodevs=$( /proc/filesystems | awk '$1 == nodev { print $2 }')
Have you tried it? The code in the file isn't an error; it's just very
obscure bash syntax. That is, $( /some/file ) is obscure, and $(
/some/file filter-command ) is *really* obscure. Doesn't seem to be
documented in the bash manual -- but it works.
See first chapter of topic REDIRECTION in bash manual.
And putting a | in the middle there doesn't.
That would only work as expected when also replacing with cat.
I am very interested in this question on multiple levels.
Let's start at the first level:
foo=$( fn bar)
apparently is functionally equivalent to
foo=$( bar fn )
which really is quite different from
foo=$(cat fn | bar)
which actually runs at least two child processes.
I do *not* see anything in the bash man page, either in the description for
$( ) which says that it is functionally equivalent to using cat, but does not
explain anything about pipes being illegal in this context. I also do not see
anything of relevance to this topic in the bash man page on REDIRECTION. At
best, the man page is deficient in that it *should* say that the syntax
defaults to qq=$(0 filename) and that other values besides zero are supported.
For example,
qq=$(3 /etc/passwd 03 cat)
actually works.
The other question which seems so obvious to me is the question of how
mlocate.cron should be fixed.
Yes, I agree that if I see that script hanging on a regular basis then I will
provide trace data to Bugzilla for further analysis. But this begs two
questions:
1. Should the scripts be written in sh or should we be allowed to use bash
constructs, in this case, like BASH_REMATCH and =~.
2. Even though the solution is a bit longer, is that justification for doing
it the way it's done instead of doing it correctly?
My first proposal:
*start*
#!/bin/bash
get_nodevs()
{
# Return ret as a global
while read line # Read each line from /proc/filesystems
do
if [[ $line =~ $'^nodev\t(.*)$' ]]# Do a real regex
then
(( ${#bash_remat...@]} == 2 )) ret=$ret ${BASH_REMATCH[1]}
fi
done /proc/filesystems
ret=${ret:1} # Lop off the leading space.
}
ret='' # ret is global used to return value from get_nodevs
get_nodevs
nodevs=$ret
{
renice +19 -p $$
ionice -c2 -n7 -p $$
| /dev/null 21
/usr/bin/updatedb -f $nodevs
**end**
could be correctly implemented in Bourne shell without using any bashisms by
replacing get_nodevs with this:
get_nodevs()
{
# Return ret as a global
old_IFS=$IFS
IFS=' ' # There's a TAB in there
while read line # Read each line from /proc/filesystems
do
set -- $line
[[ $# -eq 2 $1 = nodev ]] ret=$ret $2
done /proc/filesystems
IFS=$old_IFS
}
Either way, the original script is deficient because it does not properly
recognize fields 1 and 2.
Am I being too anal? Is it a doc problem? Is it a bug in mlocate that should
be fixed?
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