Upcoming multi-day outage

2009-12-01 Thread Mike McGrath
Starting on December 12th The Fedora Project will start to move several
servers, disk trays and related hardware from our current hosting location
to another.  This move is planned to be completed on December 15th and
will ultimately provide better hosting facilities and room for growth.

Since the servers will physically be loaded onto a truck and moved, this
means lots of services people rely on will be down.  We'll be working hard
and using whatever tricks we have at our disposal to keep things as normal
as possible, for example http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ will remain up
(which includes the mechanism yum uses to get its mirror list).

Some critical services like the buildsystem will be completely unavailable
for 48 hours or longer.  I'll be sending another update out as the day
gets closer to remind everyone.  Also this is the official ticket we're
tracking with for those who care to watch it:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845

Please do stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net or comment in the
ticket with any questions or concerns you have.

-Mike


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Re: F12: NetworkManager-Firefox: Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web

2009-12-01 Thread Terry Barnaby

On 12/01/2009 07:50 AM, Dan Williams wrote:

On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 19:52 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:12 PM, Dan Williams wrote:

On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 09:55 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:

On 11/29/2009 11:30 PM, Dan Williams wrote:

On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 09:10 +, Terry Barnaby wrote:

On 11/28/2009 08:35 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote:

2009/11/28 Terry Barnaby wrote:

If the NetworkManager service is running, but not managing the current
network connection, then Firefox starts up in offline mode.

Is this a bug in NetworkManager or Firefox ?



This is odd behaviour and needs to be fixed. I would suggest open up a
bug against firefox. I know one can change
toolkit.networkmanager.disable preference, but it is a PITA for our
users. One of use cases is: Sometime network manager does not connect
me via my CDMA usb modem (in case signal is weak), but wvdial does and
once I switch from NM to wvdial, my firefox gets to offline mode,
which I don't expect it to as I am connected.


Ok, filed as: 542078


NetworkManager is intended to control the default internet connection.
If NetworkManager cannot control the default internet connection, then
you may not want to use NetworkManager.

In your case, you're using a mobile broadband device.  The real bug here
is that for whatever reason, NM/MM aren't connecting your modem, and we
should follow up on that bug instead.

Dan


I am not using a mobile broadband device. The network connection my systems


My mistake.  I guess it was Rakesh Pandit who was using a CDMA 3G
connection.


use is not just the Internet it is a local network LAN connection that also
serves the internet. Most of my systems use a local network server which
provides NIS, /home and /data using NFS and VPN etc. I normally use the
service network to bring up wired or wireless networking for this. Fedora,
by default, uses NetworkManager to manage all network devices though. I use
the service network as, for some reason, the NetworkManager service is
started after the netfs and other services are started. Is there a reason
for this ??


No particular reason, in fact that looks like a bug.  NM no longer
depends on HAL, but that dependency is still in the initscript, which
looks like it pushes NM later than netfs.

But in reality, you're looking for a dependency based initsystem which
we don't quite yet have.  There are already scripts that kick netfs to
mount stuff when NM brings the network up
(/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/05-netfs), so you get asynchronous
bootup *and* your mounts.  The rest of the system, if it requires
something from the mounted directories, needs to be smart enough to know
that.

If you need to, you can set NETWORKWAIT=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network,
which causes the NetworkManager initscript to block until a network
connection is brought up, or 30 seconds have passed.


I can obviously turn of the NetworkManager service, which I have done on the
desktop systems. However, I also have a few Laptops that can roam. In F11 and
before I have used the network and NetworkManager services. When the laptop
boots away from home, the network service fails and I can then use the
NetworkManager service to connect to whatever wireless network or G3 network is
available.

It does seem sensible to me that the system provides applications with info
on if the network is up (not just the Internet). The NetworkManager service
seems the place to do this and it looks like the applications are starting
to use it for this purpose.
So maybe a generic NM isNetworkUp() API call is called for ?


See the other mail; the problem with a generic isUp() is that it simply
says hey, is there a connection?  It doesn't provide enough information
about the networking state of the system for anything to make an
intelligent decision about anything.  It's a hey I'm connected to
something but there's no information about *what* you're connected to;
whether it's a secure home network, whether it's a slow 3G network,
whether it's billed by the  minute or the hour or unlimited, etc.

Dan


Hi, Thanks for the info.
I would have thought that a generic isUp() is good enough for the likes
of Firefox and Pidgen though to decide if to start offline. Being connected to a
Network is probably all you need, you may be accessing an Intranet as all
my systems Firefox home pages do ...

Anyway, following your email (And notes in Bugzilla) I thought I'd try and
use NM properly for my config. However I have a problem, which may be
a bug. I have turned off the Network services and turned on NetworkManger.
I have two main network interfaces eth0 (wired) and eth1 (Wifi), both are
set to be managed by NM and to start at boot. I have also added
NETWORKWAIT=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network.

When I boot with this the network (eth1 (eth0 is disconnected)) does not
come up at boot. There is a message stating a failure on the line
where it is waiting for the network to come up. When I log in as a
local user the network then comes up ...

Package Review Stats for last 7 days ending 29th Nov

2009-12-01 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top four FAS account holders who have completed reviewing Package
review components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 29th Nov were
Steve Traylen, Andreas Osowski, Jiri Popelka and Mamoru Tasaka.

Steve Traylen : 4

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516523
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516525
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516531
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516535


Andreas Osowski : 3

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529254
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529255
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529256


Jiri Popelka : 3

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226106
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226206
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226665


Mamoru Tasaka : 3

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515230
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540791
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541185


Lubomir Rintel : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536684
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537451


Parag AN(पराग) : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541317
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539486


Peter Lemenkov : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537897
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537563


Andrew Overholt : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510195


Antti Andreimann : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541004


Caolan McNamara : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541533


Chitlesh GOORAH : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538087


Christof Damian : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529544


David Timms : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508922


Jan Zeleny : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=175840


Jochen Schmitt : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538046


Kalev Lember : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523224


Kevin Fenzi : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541154


Matthew Kent : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539606


Michael Schwendt : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533803


Michal Ingeli : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534135


Michal Nowak : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226423


Petr Machata : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=225789


Remi Collet : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528469


Ryan Rix : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533765


Thomas Janssen : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526444



Total reviews modified: 37
Merge Reviews: 5
Review Requests: 32

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Review request - django-lint

2009-12-01 Thread Matthias Runge

Hi everybody,

just a few days ago I've made a package django-lint. rpmlint is happy, 
koji builder too.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540617

I'd be glad, if someone is willing and able to support me, since it's my 
first packet.


Cheers,
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rawhide report: 20091201 changes

2009-12-01 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Dec  1 08:15:10 UTC 2009

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Re: Notification of uploads to the lookaside cache

2009-12-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 19:34 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote:
 As part of our ever vigilant stance towards security around our
 packaging process, we have added a new feature to upload.cgi (which
 accepts file uploads into the lookaside cache) which will email the
 package owner (package-ow...@fedoraproject.org, specifically) and
 fedora-extras-comm...@redhat.com whenever a file is uploaded to the
 lookaside cache. Previously this was a big black box and an area of
 concern.
 
 The message will contain the name of the file, the package concerned,
 the md5sum, and the user that uploaded it.  An example is below:
 
 File upload.cgi for package sportrop-fonts has been uploaded to the
 lookaside cache with md5sum 26489f9e92601f0f84cfbb278c2b98e1 by
 jstanley
 
 Please let me know if you have any questions, comments, or room for 
 improvement!

Can we get an X-Fedora-Upload: header in these or something?  Filtering
by subject line always makes me feel dirty.

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Re: livecds in the future

2009-12-01 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/30/2009 01:27 PM, Peter Jones wrote:
 On 11/30/2009 12:27 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 3. 'Chain-booting' from cd to usb sounds like an elegant way to avoid
 the 'Can't boot USB' problem. Did we figure out how Mandriva are doing
 it ?
 
 No, we didn't. There are some things we might be able to do here, though,
 which may solve this problem without actually chain-booting. The most
 obvious is to make sure the live image's initrd searches for a USB device
 with the right filesystem label (and possibly other criteria) and mounts
 that as root, and then build a liveboot.iso with one boot image and no[1]
 real filesystem. The boot image would contain the kernel and initrd as
 the only boot option.
 
 This is fairly trivial to do, actually.
 
 [1] It'd have to have an iso9660 filesystem with the isolinux/ directory
 much like our current boot.iso does, but the kernel and initrd there would
 be the ones from the live image, and we wouldn't put the rest of the live
 OS on the disc.
 

Further research[1] seems to indicate that this is almost exactly what
they're doing.

[1] Adam pointed me at 
http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/soft/drakx/trunk/rescue/make_flash_rescue?revision=263686view=markup

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Re: Notification of uploads to the lookaside cache

2009-12-01 Thread Todd Zullinger
Adam Jackson wrote:
 Can we get an X-Fedora-Upload: header in these or something?
 Filtering by subject line always makes me feel dirty.

How about using the Keywords header?  That way we can also use it to
create a topic for the fedora-extras-commits list.  Something like:

Keywords: Fedora file upload ($package, $filename)

perhaps?

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Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dave Airlie (airl...@redhat.com) said: 
 On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 08:07 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:
  Well, here's one graphics regression: 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540476
  
  radeon.modeset=0 worked around the problem.
  
  (I'm not sure if it's filed against the right component.)
 
 Don't use radeonhd, the Fedora X team don't support it and never have.
 
 I'm thinking it should reallyt be removed from the distro at this point
 as it makes things worse rather than better. remove your xorg.conf
 and turn modesetting on and if its still horrible, then we can talk.
 
 So you've proven you can break your own machine that is all.

So, if our X maintainers won't handle bugs with it, we have a working
default alternative that is maintained upstream, and it's *known* to
be broken in the default configuration, why ship it? If we're trying to
focus on quality, I'm not sure why we'd ship something that's known
broken.

Hans, are you OK if we block this from rawhide?

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Re: Answers from the Candidate Questionnaire now in the Wiki (Was: Candidate Questionnaire status)

2009-12-01 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:02:45AM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
 Hi
 
 Me again ;-)
 
 Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 24.11.2009 08:44:
  Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 17.11.2009 20:47:
  On 17.11.2009 07:54, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
  Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 11.11.2009 22:30:
  As you may have heard already, several seats of the Fedora
  Board, FESCo, and FAMSCO are up for election soon(¹). Right now
  we are in the nomination period, which will be followed by a
  Candidate Questionnaire. [...]
  Deadline for answers: 20091124-06:00 UTC [...]
  Quick status update: I sent the questions to 23 people and 19 of them
  replied with the answers. I didn't get any replies to the questions (or
  my reminder mail from Sunday evening) from
  
  * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula)
  * Max Spevack (spevack)
  * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen)
  * Will Woods (wwoods)
 
 Max sent a apology, but the other remained silent afaics.
 
  I hope to find time to work through the answers later today (in
  something like 12 hours from now) and publish them afterwards.
 
 Compiled a wiki page with the answers and gave the nominees 12 hours to
 check the results. A few bugs were found and fixed, but I think
 everything is fine now.
 
 So the answers are now free for public consumption on this page:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/F13_Questionnaire

Thorsten, thanks for the time and effort you put into this.  We'll
make sure to notify the community that if they want to see results for
a questionnaire for the next election, someone will need to take over
this responsibility.  Your help has been much appreciated!

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Re: livecds in the future

2009-12-01 Thread Sir Gallantmon
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 11/30/2009 01:27 PM, Peter Jones wrote:
  On 11/30/2009 12:27 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
  3. 'Chain-booting' from cd to usb sounds like an elegant way to avoid
  the 'Can't boot USB' problem. Did we figure out how Mandriva are doing
  it ?
 
  No, we didn't. There are some things we might be able to do here, though,
  which may solve this problem without actually chain-booting. The most
  obvious is to make sure the live image's initrd searches for a USB device
  with the right filesystem label (and possibly other criteria) and mounts
  that as root, and then build a liveboot.iso with one boot image and no[1]
  real filesystem. The boot image would contain the kernel and initrd as
  the only boot option.
 
  This is fairly trivial to do, actually.
 
  [1] It'd have to have an iso9660 filesystem with the isolinux/ directory
  much like our current boot.iso does, but the kernel and initrd there
 would
  be the ones from the live image, and we wouldn't put the rest of the live
  OS on the disc.
 

 Further research[1] seems to indicate that this is almost exactly what
 they're doing.

 [1] Adam pointed me at
 http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/soft/drakx/trunk/rescue/make_flash_rescue?revision=263686view=markup

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I found another tool that claims to be able to search and boot a USB device,
from a floppy disk no less! The tool is called PLoP[1], and it is a custom
boot manager that can boot USB, CD, and hard disks.

Maybe that will help some people figure out how it is done.

[1]: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
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Re: livecds in the future

2009-12-01 Thread Peter Jones
On 12/01/2009 10:42 AM, Sir Gallantmon wrote:

 I found another tool that claims to be able to search and boot a USB device,
 from a floppy disk no less! The tool is called PLoP[1], and it is a custom
 boot manager that can boot USB, CD, and hard disks.
 
 Maybe that will help some people figure out how it is done.
 
 [1]: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html

That's pretty neat, but probably not much help to us.  What this is is a
custom (proprietary, closed source, it seems) bootloader which basically
does this:

1) installs what amounts to a DOS TSR driver for each of:
  a) IDE (of some unspecified variety)
  b) [EOU]HCI
  c) ATAPI and similar (i.e. SCSI MMC/SBC command sets along with
 encapsulation for CDROM and USB-storage)
  d) notably not any SATA/AHCI/etc
2) acts as a chainloading boot loader for whatever bootloader is on
   media that it finds.

Which is also just a fancy way of saying it /replaces/ some of your BIOS's
int 13h routines with what are plausibly slightly smarter (but also
plausibly slightly dumber) ones.

If somebody wants to implement an open source version of this, it could be
helpful, I guess. But it's a lot of fairly difficult work, and the only
real advantage it has over the other scheme I've discussed is that the CD
(or whatever) you're booting from doesn't have to match the OS being
booted.

Anyway, if somebody's looking for a truly complex and isolating project to
work on, go right ahead, but I'm not going to ;)

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Re: Build Failure regarding Boost

2009-12-01 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2009/12/1 Tim Niemueller t...@niemueller.de:
 Hi all.

 I'm trying to build the newest version 3.0.0 of the Player package. It
 builds just fine on F11/F12, but it fails with an error that
 -lboost_thread cannot be found on rawhide. boost-devel is in the BR,
 boost-thread is being installed according to root.log.

 The package uses cmake for building, where I suspect the problem. On my
 (F-11) machine it links with -lboost_thread-mt). But on rawhide it uses
 the non-mt version (well, a non-multithreaded threading library is kind
 of an issue). On my system I have cmake 2.6.3, while rawhide has 2.8.0.
 Is there a known problem? Does anyone else maintain a project build with
 cmake and using Boost and can give a hint how to solve?
aqsis use cmake and boost, but also explicitly tell which boost library to use.
You may have to adapt the cmake option if they are non-standardized.

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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:40:07 Hal Murray wrote:
 g...@czarc.net said:
 ...
 
  A written description of the security policy is a must!
 
 ...
 
 Is the idea of a single one-size-fits-all security policy reasonable?  I 
 think Fedora has a broad range of users.
 
No.  Initially, I recommend one security policy and one reference 
implementation to test against.  Each variation needs its own security policy 
and reference implementation definition.  Later ones are easier to create 
because they can use the early ones as guidance.

So, why go through all of this paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit?  Well, 
those of us who have done this before believe that it is necessary.  I do not 
like the bureaucratic BS any more than anyone else but, if you do not do it, 
then you are not quite sure what you have when you say that something meets 
security requirements.

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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:16:50 Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 15:17 -0500, Eric Christensen wrote:
  Gene,
  (Ahh... someone with a similar background...)
 
  So the biggest question, to me, is to what standard do we start?
  There are plenty to choose from from DISA to NIST.  I, personally,
  find the NSA's Guide to the Secure Configuration of Red Hat
  Enterprise Linux 5 very good and might be a good place to start.  I'm
  not saying that we do everything that is in the guide but maybe take
  the guide and strike things out that don't make sense and add stuff to
  it that does make sense.
 
 Thanks for the thoughts, Gene and Eric. You seem to be running a long
 way ahead here :). I should probably say that I think I mistitled the
 thread: what I was really thinking about here is not 'security', but the
 more limited area of 'privilege escalation'. I'm not sure we're ready to
 bite off a comprehensive distro-wide security policy yet, to the extent
 you two are discussing.

But, you did say the right words for what is needed to do security QA and not 
just privilege escalation.

 
 Where I'm currently at is that I'm going to talk to some Red Hat /
 Fedora security folks about the issues raised in all the discussions
 about this, including this thread, and then file a ticket to ask FESco
 to look at the matter, possibly including a proposed policy if the
 security folks help come up with one. And for the moment, only really
 concerned with the question of privileges.
 
Start small with just privilege escalation and it can be grown to be something 
more comprehensive.  FESco is the right place to go and see what the project 
wants to do.

I suspect that most commercial and government customers will be interested in 
Red Hat Enterprise Linux rather than Fedora.  But, Fedora is the technology 
base on which future Red Hat Enterprise Linux releases are built.  The better 
Fedora is, the more confidence customers will have the the Red Hat product.

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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Eric Christensen
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 22:40, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:


 g...@czarc.net said:
 ...
  A written description of the security policy is a must!
 ...

 Is the idea of a single one-size-fits-all security policy reasonable?  I
 think Fedora has a broad range of users.


Probably not but there are some basics that should be implemented for
everyone.


 Security is a tradeoff.  If you make it impossible for the bad guys to get
 in, the good guys probably can't get any work done.  How secure do you need
 to be?  How much are you willing to pay for it?


How much are you willing to pay to clean up the aftermath?



 I'd much rather have an overview document that explains the likely attacks
 and potential solutions, and their costs and benefits.  Additionally, I
 think
 it's much easier to follow a policy if I understand the reasonaing behind
 it.


The Fedora Security Guide (found at docs.fedoraproject.org and in a friendly
repo near you) started out that way and has blossomed into that and a whole
lot more.  As always suggestions and patches are welcome.


 I think sample policy documents with descriptions of their target audience
 and checklists for how to implement them would be helpful.


+1


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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Eric Christensen
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:47, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:

 On Monday 30 November 2009 18:16:50 Adam Williamson wrote:
   Where I'm currently at is that I'm going to talk to some Red Hat /
  Fedora security folks about the issues raised in all the discussions
  about this, including this thread, and then file a ticket to ask FESco
  to look at the matter, possibly including a proposed policy if the
  security folks help come up with one. And for the moment, only really
  concerned with the question of privileges.
 
 Start small with just privilege escalation and it can be grown to be
 something
 more comprehensive.  FESco is the right place to go and see what the
 project
 wants to do.


There is already a security policy in place.  It's not formalized nor is it
written down but it's there.  It's the current posture of Fedora.  We set a
root passphrase at the beginning of install and we give people the option of
securing GRUB with a passphrase and encrypting the hard drive.  We also have
the unwritten rule of user privileges.

It may be time to document our current posture to at least show where we are
and the standard we expect all developers to live up to.   In the process of
documenting you may find that we are lacking somewhere.

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Re: Build Failure regarding Boost

2009-12-01 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 18:31 +0100, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: 
 2009/12/1 Tim Niemueller t...@niemueller.de:
  Hi all.
 
  I'm trying to build the newest version 3.0.0 of the Player package. It
  builds just fine on F11/F12, but it fails with an error that
  -lboost_thread cannot be found on rawhide. boost-devel is in the BR,
  boost-thread is being installed according to root.log.
 
  The package uses cmake for building, where I suspect the problem. On my
  (F-11) machine it links with -lboost_thread-mt). But on rawhide it uses
  the non-mt version (well, a non-multithreaded threading library is kind
  of an issue). On my system I have cmake 2.6.3, while rawhide has 2.8.0.
  Is there a known problem? Does anyone else maintain a project build with
  cmake and using Boost and can give a hint how to solve?
 aqsis use cmake and boost, but also explicitly tell which boost library to 
 use.
 You may have to adapt the cmake option if they are non-standardized.

Broadly speaking (beyond just Fedora), there's enough variability in the
potential names of Boost libraries that a package's configuration needs
the ability to specify a Boost library suffix.  It sounds like your
package's configuration is trying to be clever and divine the required
suffix--and it's failing and falling back to no suffix.

If your package's configuration won't let you specify a suffix, the most
expedient thing to do may be just to hack it on.  But an upstream-worthy
patch would add a means to specify an arbitrary suffix.  Also, -mt is a
saner default than no suffix at all.

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Upcoming multi-day outage

2009-12-01 Thread Mike McGrath
Starting on December 12th The Fedora Project will start to move several
servers, disk trays and related hardware from our current hosting location
to another.  This move is planned to be completed on December 15th and
will ultimately provide better hosting facilities and room for growth.

Since the servers will physically be loaded onto a truck and moved, this
means lots of services people rely on will be down.  We'll be working hard
and using whatever tricks we have at our disposal to keep things as normal
as possible, for example http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ will remain up
(which includes the mechanism yum uses to get its mirror list).

Some critical services like the buildsystem will be completely unavailable
for 48 hours or longer.  I'll be sending another update out as the day
gets closer to remind everyone.  Also this is the official ticket we're
tracking with for those who care to watch it:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845

Please do stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net or comment in the
ticket with any questions or concerns you have.

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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 12:47 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote:

 I suspect that most commercial and government customers will be interested in 
 Red Hat Enterprise Linux rather than Fedora.  But, Fedora is the technology 
 base on which future Red Hat Enterprise Linux releases are built.  The better 
 Fedora is, the more confidence customers will have the the Red Hat product.

I agree. What I'm really worried about here, ultimately, is PolicyKit,
and the way it permits a lot more grey areas than have been possible
before. If you look at previous privilege escalation mechanisms, they're
simplistic; whether you're using sudo or consolehelper or whatever,
ultimately you either have a process run as root or as user. And it's
pretty obvious what should run as root and what shouldn't; I don't
remember there being any real serious debates about that, everyone
pretty much reaches the same conclusions independently. The
authentication question is equally simple: basically either the process
just runs as root automatically (which everyone agrees should happen for
as few processes as possible), or you have to authenticate each time -
for Fedora, basically you have to type the root password, since we never
really used sudo.

Things like 'well, we can perform this one specific type of operation
with this one specific type of authentication' just weren't possible.
Now they are, so stuff like the PackageKit issue was bound to start
happening. The things PolicyKit make possible really need some kind of
coherent oversight, I think, and that is indeed something Red Hat
Enterprise Linux will also need to address, so obviously from an RH
perspective, it helps RH if Fedora develops some kind of policy for
this. But I think it's necessary for Fedora anyway, regardless of RH.

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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 13:56:51 Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 12:47 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
  I suspect that most commercial and government customers will be
  interested in Red Hat Enterprise Linux rather than Fedora.  But, Fedora
  is the technology base on which future Red Hat Enterprise Linux releases
  are built.  The better Fedora is, the more confidence customers will have
  the the Red Hat product.
 
 I agree. What I'm really worried about here, ultimately, is PolicyKit,
 and the way it permits a lot more grey areas than have been possible
 before. If you look at previous privilege escalation mechanisms, they're
 simplistic; whether you're using sudo or consolehelper or whatever,
 ultimately you either have a process run as root or as user. And it's
 pretty obvious what should run as root and what shouldn't; I don't
 remember there being any real serious debates about that, everyone
 pretty much reaches the same conclusions independently. The
 authentication question is equally simple: basically either the process
 just runs as root automatically (which everyone agrees should happen for
 as few processes as possible), or you have to authenticate each time -
 for Fedora, basically you have to type the root password, since we never
 really used sudo.
 
 Things like 'well, we can perform this one specific type of operation
 with this one specific type of authentication' just weren't possible.
 Now they are, so stuff like the PackageKit issue was bound to start
 happening. The things PolicyKit make possible really need some kind of
 coherent oversight, I think, and that is indeed something Red Hat
 Enterprise Linux will also need to address, so obviously from an RH
 perspective, it helps RH if Fedora develops some kind of policy for
 this. But I think it's necessary for Fedora anyway, regardless of RH.
 

What you are saying put more emphasis on getting a security policy written and 
ratified by FESco.  And you will also need some oversight of what the 
developers are doing with respect to security and this security policy.  The 
QA process should catch the oops problems ... not those done intentionally 
by a well-intentioned developer.

I do not know that much about PolicyKit and given my interests in security, I 
probably need to learn about it.  One thing that occurs to me is to wonder if 
PolicyKit is using SELinux (see SELinux Users and Roles).  If not, why not?

Regardless of how PolicyKit works, the default should be locked-down with an 
easy-to-use sysadmin tool to provide configuration with the ability to open-
things-up in a controlled manner.

You should talk to the folks handling SELinux.  My impression of them is that 
they know what they are doing and may provide some insight into the PolicyKit 
problem.

Fedora has come a long way since SELinux was first introduced.  It would be a 
shame if the enhanced security provided by SELinux was negated by PolicyKit.

A couple of other comments:

- No, I do not believe that regular users should be able to update or install 
software globally without transitioning to an admin role ... they can put stuff 
in their home directory but not globally.

- I agree with Smooge in one of the messages he wrote ... there are many users 
who would like to run Fedora just like Windows95.  That may be but that does 
not mean that Fedora should follow that idea.

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Re: Security testing: need for a security policy, and a security-critical package process

2009-12-01 Thread Gene Czarcinski
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 13:04:02 Eric Christensen wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:47, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:
  On Monday 30 November 2009 18:16:50 Adam Williamson wrote:
Where I'm currently at is that I'm going to talk to some Red Hat /
  
   Fedora security folks about the issues raised in all the discussions
   about this, including this thread, and then file a ticket to ask FESco
   to look at the matter, possibly including a proposed policy if the
   security folks help come up with one. And for the moment, only really
   concerned with the question of privileges.
 
  Start small with just privilege escalation and it can be grown to be
  something
  more comprehensive.  FESco is the right place to go and see what the
  project
  wants to do.
 
 There is already a security policy in place.  It's not formalized nor is it
 written down but it's there.  It's the current posture of Fedora.  We set a
 root passphrase at the beginning of install and we give people the option
  of securing GRUB with a passphrase and encrypting the hard drive.  We also
  have the unwritten rule of user privileges.
 
 It may be time to document our current posture to at least show where we
  are and the standard we expect all developers to live up to.   In the
  process of documenting you may find that we are lacking somewhere.

Yes, there has always been a security policy as defined by the written code 
(software).  But, that is subject to individual interpretation.  I agree that 
creating a written security policy is likely to identify shortcomings such as 
my point about the GRUB password.

Lots of folks who use computers clearly do not understand the underlying 
technology and are clearly not paranoid enough.  Given a home computer, do you 
really want your teenager installing file-sharing software.  Recently, the US 
Congress discovered that some of their users had installed file-sharing 
software --- and the result was not positive.

Fedora needs to provide good functionality while keeping our collective sanity 
... we need software which is not just easy to use but is smarter about how it 
is used.

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Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 12/01/2009 09:35 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 So, if our X maintainers won't handle bugs with it, we have a working
 default alternative that is maintained upstream, and it's *known* to
 be broken in the default configuration, why ship it? If we're trying to
 focus on quality, I'm not sure why we'd ship something that's known
 broken.

Because the alternative may be more broken for some people?

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495688

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Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: 
 On 12/01/2009 09:35 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
  So, if our X maintainers won't handle bugs with it, we have a working
  default alternative that is maintained upstream, and it's *known* to
  be broken in the default configuration, why ship it? If we're trying to
  focus on quality, I'm not sure why we'd ship something that's known
  broken.
 
 Because the alternative may be more broken for some people?
 
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495688

If the e1000 driver is broken in the kernel for some people, we don't support
shipping an alternate driver. If a new version of the intel graphics driver
is broken for some people, we don't support shipping a pre-KMS version
of the driver.

Why would we do differently here?

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Re: Build Failure regarding Boost

2009-12-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tim Niemueller wrote:
 The package uses cmake for building, where I suspect the problem. On my
 (F-11) machine it links with -lboost_thread-mt). But on rawhide it uses
 the non-mt version (well, a non-multithreaded threading library is kind
 of an issue). On my system I have cmake 2.6.3, while rawhide has 2.8.0.
 Is there a known problem? Does anyone else maintain a project build with
 cmake and using Boost and can give a hint how to solve?

Does the package ship its own FindBoost.cmake? If it does, try removing it 
in %prep and seeing if that helps. (It'll use CMake's version then.) If the 
package isn't shipping its own FindBoost.cmake or if removing it doesn't fix 
the problem, please file a bug against CMake.

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Re: Build Failure regarding Boost

2009-12-01 Thread Tim Niemueller
On 01.12.2009 19:15, Braden McDaniel wrote:
 Broadly speaking (beyond just Fedora), there's enough variability in the
 potential names of Boost libraries that a package's configuration needs
 the ability to specify a Boost library suffix.  It sounds like your
 package's configuration is trying to be clever and divine the required
 suffix--and it's failing and falling back to no suffix.
 
 If your package's configuration won't let you specify a suffix, the most
 expedient thing to do may be just to hack it on.  But an upstream-worthy
 patch would add a means to specify an arbitrary suffix.  Also, -mt is a
 saner default than no suffix at all.

The suffix is determined in /usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindBoost.cmake
which is part of cmake, so there is nothing I can do about this in the
Player package. Could this be a problem with new cmake or boost versions?

Tim

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Re: Upcoming multi-day outage

2009-12-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike McGrath wrote:
 Starting on December 12th The Fedora Project will start to move several
 servers, disk trays and related hardware from our current hosting location
 to another.  This move is planned to be completed on December 15th and
 will ultimately provide better hosting facilities and room for growth.

Hmmm, how does this affect F10's EOL? Josh Boyer previously announced that 
the last day to file F10 updates in Bodhi will be December 14, that's now 
right within the outage window.

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Re: Build Failure regarding Boost

2009-12-01 Thread Sir Gallantmon
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Tim Niemueller t...@niemueller.de wrote:

 On 01.12.2009 19:15, Braden McDaniel wrote:
  Broadly speaking (beyond just Fedora), there's enough variability in the
  potential names of Boost libraries that a package's configuration needs
  the ability to specify a Boost library suffix.  It sounds like your
  package's configuration is trying to be clever and divine the required
  suffix--and it's failing and falling back to no suffix.
 
  If your package's configuration won't let you specify a suffix, the most
  expedient thing to do may be just to hack it on.  But an upstream-worthy
  patch would add a means to specify an arbitrary suffix.  Also, -mt is a
  saner default than no suffix at all.

 The suffix is determined in /usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindBoost.cmake
 which is part of cmake, so there is nothing I can do about this in the
 Player package. Could this be a problem with new cmake or boost versions?

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Perhaps CMake needs to be updated to 2.8.0 final? I think there was a
FindBoost.cmake update in 2.8.0...
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Odd partition error in F12, but not in F11

2009-12-01 Thread Brent Norris
I have a friend that doesn't read the list that has been fighting a very 
odd issue with F12, which does not surface in F11.


On a clean install from the F12 DVD with the updates repo enabled, he 
created a RAID 5 setup across 6 drives.  Each drive has only one 
partition on it.  When the machine reboots it cannot rebuild the raid 
because it cannot find 4 of the 6 partitions.  It drops to the root 
prompt and from there if you do an ls /dev/sd?* four of the drives show 
no entries for the partitions while the other two show the normal one 
partition.  If you open one of the incorrect drives with fdisk it shows 
the correct partition table and if you write it out from fdisk it then 
shows correctly in /dev


If you do this to each of the drives they all show up and then mdadm can 
assemble the raid correctly.  Reboot the machine and you are right back 
to where you started.


dmesg seems to show the kernel correctly listing each drive and 
correctly listing them with each one partition, but the entries are not 
in /dev for the partitions.


We rolled back to F11 and performed the same process and it worked fine. 
 I am really at a loss for what to look at or what to test against.  We 
currently have the machine up and working with F11, so I can get any 
information about hardware that might help.


I posted it here rather than the users list, because I don't really 
think this is a configuration problem.  It seems like a bug in F12, but 
I don't know what to check it against.


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Re: Upcoming multi-day outage

2009-12-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:54:57AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mike McGrath wrote:
 Starting on December 12th The Fedora Project will start to move several
 servers, disk trays and related hardware from our current hosting location
 to another.  This move is planned to be completed on December 15th and
 will ultimately provide better hosting facilities and room for growth.

Hmmm, how does this affect F10's EOL? Josh Boyer previously announced that 
the last day to file F10 updates in Bodhi will be December 14, that's now 
right within the outage window.

Hm.  Crap, you are correct.  I had been thinking I said it was Dec 11
for several days now.  I have no idea why, but we might seriously want
to change the final F10 push date to Dec 11 to accommodate for the
outage.

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Re: Upcoming multi-day outage

2009-12-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:39:39PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:54:57AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mike McGrath wrote:
 Starting on December 12th The Fedora Project will start to move several
 servers, disk trays and related hardware from our current hosting location
 to another.  This move is planned to be completed on December 15th and
 will ultimately provide better hosting facilities and room for growth.

Hmmm, how does this affect F10's EOL? Josh Boyer previously announced that 
the last day to file F10 updates in Bodhi will be December 14, that's now 
right within the outage window.

Hm.  Crap, you are correct.  I had been thinking I said it was Dec 11
for several days now.  I have no idea why, but we might seriously want
to change the final F10 push date to Dec 11 to accommodate for the
outage.

I've created https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/282 to track this.
Normally a final push date doesn't require FESCo approval, but given that
this is a change in the date that gives people less time I thought it
might be prudent.

(I'm going to ignore the fact that this is pushing updates to a release
that will be EOL'd 6 days later.)

Transparency and junk and stuff.

josh

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Re: Build Failure regarding Boost

2009-12-01 Thread Orion Poplawski

On Tue, December 1, 2009 6:26 pm, Sir Gallantmon wrote:
 Perhaps CMake needs to be updated to 2.8.0 final? I think there was a
 FindBoost.cmake update in 2.8.0...

cmake 2.8.0 final is in rawhide so you can test there.  I'm not
comfortable pushing it to F12/11.  We could make an update with an updated
FindBoost.cmake if necessary.

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gnumeric-1.9.16-1.fc13 in rawhide now

2009-12-01 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
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Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Matěj Cepl

Dne 1.12.2009 21:43, Bill Nottingham napsal(a):

If the e1000 driver is broken in the kernel for some people, we don't support
shipping an alternate driver. If a new version of the intel graphics driver
is broken for some people, we don't support shipping a pre-KMS version
of the driver.

Why would we do differently here?


Because if e1000 is broken, we can be sure with reasonably high level of 
certainity, it will be fixed without undue delay. For Xorg drivers 
(especially with regards to 3D support) we have hope that it will be 
slightly better in the next Fedora release, but complete coverage is 
still just a dream.


Moreover, I don't know what's your problem with radeonhd driver in 
Fedora. Hanz does IMHO excellent job on maintaining it and it doesn't 
drag much additional resources on anybody (except on me, perhaps, 
because I triage bugs for him as well, which is the reason that this 
time I even a little know what I am talking about ;)). And of course 
comparing -radeonhd bugs (http://is.gd/59Hc0) with -ati bugs 
(http://is.gd/59Hp0) is unfair, because there are many more users of 
-ati driver, but at least it shows that radeonhd is really not burning 
issue.


What's the problem?

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Re: livecds in the future

2009-12-01 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 11/30/2009 07:27 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:


2. More download choices are not a part of the solution, but a part of
the problem... We already have the problem that people are choosing to
download the DVD just because DVD  CD; but unlike the spins, the DVD is
not a designed product at all.


This may mean also a good number of people to not care about a designed 
product, they just want the packages. Or it may be the case the design 
for the designed products (that is the Desktop Spin, right?) is not 
that great (I think is not, I am completely out of its target).


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[Bug 541888] Fontforge crashes when loading font

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from Tobias Ringstrom tob...@ringis.se  2009-12-01 08:10:43 
EDT ---
There are no fonts in /usr/share/X11/fonts/.  Did you mean /usr/share/fonts/?

I tried removing all files in ~/.fontconfig, and I also ran 'fc-cache
/usr/share/fonts/*', but fontforge still crashed.

As you can see in the error above, fontforge complains about the font
-arphic-ar-something.  That font is in
cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-29.fc12.noarch.  Removing that RPM makes
fontforge work.

While it's possible that there's a problem with the cjkuni-uming-fonts RPM,
Fontforge should still not crash.

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[Bug 451744] Review Request: root - The CERN analyzer for high to medium energy physics

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla
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Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|CANTFIX |DUPLICATE




--- Comment #39 from Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com  2009-12-01 10:05:34 
EDT ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 542990 ***

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[Bug 440992] [ro] Correct Romanian glyphs in Liberation Fonts.

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla
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John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|9   |12




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[Bug 540390] [all_langs except ml_IN] Boxes appearing on Font GUI instead of latin characters

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla
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   What|Removed |Added

 CC||skh...@gmail.com




--- Comment #3 from K. Sethu skh...@gmail.com  2009-12-01 11:26:56 EDT ---
When wanting to check for the presence or the absence of this bug in a
different language locale, rather than going through the procedure of a log-out
and the log back in with another locale, it is more convenient to just launch
from a terminal the gnome-appearance-properties applet together with the export
of LANG environment variable set to the relevant language 

For e.g., for Tamil,regardless of with which language locale the current
session is being run, from a terminal launch the applet with the following
command

export LANG=ta_IN  gnome-appearance-properties

Similarly the applet can be launched for any number of other languages from the
different required number of terminals. They can be viewed simultaneously for
making comparisons.  

I made the following screen-shot in Fedora 11 wherein the 3 shown simultaneous
instances of the gnome-appearance-properties are for US English (LANG=
en_US.UTF-8), Tamil LANG=ta_IN) and Kannada (LANG=kn_IN) : 

http://sites.google.com/site/skhome/fedorarelate/screen/appear-pref-serif-Lohit-buggy.png

The additional image in the same screen-shot is a gnome-terminal in which I had
checked which fonts Fontconfig had matched for the generic font serif in case
of each of the 3 languages. It is the serif (as I have empirically found and
proved to myself) that is used for those sample glyphs cages in the Appearance
Preferences dialog. 

The fact that whenever the Fontconfig framework has to match a font lacking the
Latin range glyphs to serif this bug being caused to occur, points to two
possibilities. 

First and more likely cause is that the applet could be faulty in that while
making a font match it is not passing to Fontconfig the correct information
that the sample glyph data are only fixed ascii range codes meant to be Latin
characters only and not as per the language locale in use. The other
possibility is the sample data is up for l10n translations which have not been
carried out and the Latin data are repeated falsely for each language. 

I haven't checked the source codes and my conjecture are speculative.

Well, hopefully upstream fixing would solve this bug once and for all. However 
I like to suggest that it is better to also include Latin range glyphs (at
least English) in all Lohit fonts to make them more competitive in the field.

~Sethu

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File fontpackages-1.41.tar.xz uploaded to lookaside cache by nim

2009-12-01 Thread nim
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for fontpackages:

ecf45dd0564a08350b89e8895898bc42  fontpackages-1.41.tar.xz

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rpms/fontpackages/F-12 .cvsignore, 1.22, 1.23 fontpackages.spec, 1.29, 1.30 import.log, 1.25, 1.26 sources, 1.22, 1.23

2009-12-01 Thread nim
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-12
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9303/F-12

Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources 
Log Message:
1.41


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-12/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.22
retrieving revision 1.23
diff -u -p -r1.22 -r1.23
--- .cvsignore  23 Nov 2009 21:30:42 -  1.22
+++ .cvsignore  1 Dec 2009 22:13:11 -   1.23
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.35.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.41.tar.xz


Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-12/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.29
retrieving revision 1.30
diff -u -p -r1.29 -r1.30
--- fontpackages.spec   23 Nov 2009 21:30:42 -  1.29
+++ fontpackages.spec   1 Dec 2009 22:13:11 -   1.30
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 %global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
 
 Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.35
+Version: 1.41
 Release: 1%{?dist}
 Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
 
@@ -46,8 +46,9 @@ create font packages.
 %package tools
 Summary: Tools used to check fonts and font packages
 
-Requires: fontconfig, fontforge, mutt, make
-Requires: rpmlint, yum-utils, fedora-packager
+Requires: fontconfig, fontforge
+Requires: curl, make, mutt
+Requires: fedora-packager, rpmlint, yum-utils
 
 %description tools
 This package contains tools used to check fonts and font packages
@@ -133,6 +134,14 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 %{_bindir}/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Dec 01 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.41-1
+— Bugfix release
+
+* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.40-1
+— Bugfix release
+
 * Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.35-1
 


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-12/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.25
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -p -r1.25 -r1.26
--- import.log  23 Nov 2009 21:30:42 -  1.25
+++ import.log  1 Dec 2009 22:13:11 -   1.26
@@ -23,3 +23,4 @@ fontpackages-1_30-1_fc13:F-12:fontpackag
 fontpackages-1_31-1_fc13:F-12:fontpackages-1.31-1.fc13.src.rpm:1257103098
 fontpackages-1_31-2_fc13:F-12:fontpackages-1.31-2.fc13.src.rpm:1257112403
 fontpackages-1_35-1_fc13:F-12:fontpackages-1.35-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259011802
+fontpackages-1_41-1_fc13:F-12:fontpackages-1.41-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259705577


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-12/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.22
retrieving revision 1.23
diff -u -p -r1.22 -r1.23
--- sources 23 Nov 2009 21:30:43 -  1.22
+++ sources 1 Dec 2009 22:13:11 -   1.23
@@ -1 +1 @@
-889ebe16ea65deb3e5ce14612a2f94ec  fontpackages-1.35.tar.xz
+ecf45dd0564a08350b89e8895898bc42  fontpackages-1.41.tar.xz

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rpms/fontpackages/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.12, 1.13 fontpackages.spec, 1.17, 1.18 import.log, 1.14, 1.15 sources, 1.12, 1.13

2009-12-01 Thread nim
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9573/F-11

Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources 
Log Message:
1.41


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-11/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.12
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -p -r1.12 -r1.13
--- .cvsignore  23 Nov 2009 21:32:16 -  1.12
+++ .cvsignore  1 Dec 2009 22:13:46 -   1.13
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.35.tar.xz
+fontpackages-1.41.tar.xz


Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-11/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.17
retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -p -r1.17 -r1.18
--- fontpackages.spec   23 Nov 2009 21:32:16 -  1.17
+++ fontpackages.spec   1 Dec 2009 22:13:46 -   1.18
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 %global rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
 
 Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.35
+Version: 1.41
 Release: 1%{?dist}
 Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
 
@@ -46,8 +46,9 @@ create font packages.
 %package tools
 Summary: Tools used to check fonts and font packages
 
-Requires: fontconfig, fontforge, mutt, make
-Requires: rpmlint, yum-utils, fedora-packager
+Requires: fontconfig, fontforge
+Requires: curl, make, mutt
+Requires: fedora-packager, rpmlint, yum-utils
 
 %description tools
 This package contains tools used to check fonts and font packages
@@ -133,6 +134,14 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 %{_bindir}/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Dec 01 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.41-1
+— Bugfix release
+
+* Sat Nov 28 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.40-1
+— Bugfix release
+
 * Mon Nov 23 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.35-1
 


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-11/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.14
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -p -r1.14 -r1.15
--- import.log  23 Nov 2009 21:32:16 -  1.14
+++ import.log  1 Dec 2009 22:13:46 -   1.15
@@ -12,3 +12,4 @@ fontpackages-1_20-1_fc11:HEAD:fontpackag
 fontpackages-1_20-1_fc11:HEAD:fontpackages-1.20-1.fc11.src.rpm:1235377920
 fontpackages-1_28-1_fc13:F-11:fontpackages-1.28-1.fc13.src.rpm:1255987473
 fontpackages-1_35-1_fc13:F-11:fontpackages-1.35-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259011916
+fontpackages-1_41-1_fc13:F-11:fontpackages-1.41-1.fc13.src.rpm:1259705610


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.12
retrieving revision 1.13
diff -u -p -r1.12 -r1.13
--- sources 23 Nov 2009 21:32:16 -  1.12
+++ sources 1 Dec 2009 22:13:46 -   1.13
@@ -1 +1 @@
-889ebe16ea65deb3e5ce14612a2f94ec  fontpackages-1.35.tar.xz
+ecf45dd0564a08350b89e8895898bc42  fontpackages-1.41.tar.xz

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[Bug 540390] [all_langs except ml_IN] Boxes appearing on Font GUI instead of latin characters

2009-12-01 Thread bugzilla
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Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||control-center-ma...@redhat
   ||.com, rstr...@redhat.com
  Component|lohit-fonts |control-center
 AssignedTo|psatp...@redhat.com |control-center-ma...@redhat
   ||.com




--- Comment #4 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com  2009-12-01 23:24:59 
EDT ---
right now i dont feel any need for adding latin alphabet in lohit font, since
corresponding latin alphabet fonts are matching with its style, but yeah it
will be definitely advantages thing to existing lohit.

may be long term we can think for this.

about the bug its really need to fix from control-center component as mentioned
in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602694

moving to control-center

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Fedora Talk Follow-up Meeting Wed or Thurs?

2009-12-01 Thread John Poelstra

Hi Fedora Talkers,

A month has slipped by since we got a lot of great work done at the FAD: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009_game_plan


Would folks be available at 3 PM EST this Wednesday or Thursday to do a 
check-in to see where we are at and what to tackle next?  We might also 
want to think about possible things to work on at FUDCon.


Given the nature of our work, I'd also suggest that we meet on Fedora 
Talk instead of IRC :)


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Re: Fedora Talk Follow-up Meeting Wed or Thurs?

2009-12-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:48:57 -0800,
  John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 Would folks be available at 3 PM EST this Wednesday or Thursday to
 do a check-in to see where we are at and what to tackle next?  We
 might also want to think about possible things to work on at FUDCon.
 
 Given the nature of our work, I'd also suggest that we meet on
 Fedora Talk instead of IRC :)

One thing to watch for is if when turning recording it breaks the service
for people who are already connected. This happened once at the last
group session that I participated in. I don't know if it was a one time
glitch or if there is a bug. The symptom was that when recording was
turned out remote listeners lost audio. Calling back in again fixed things
up.

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Re: Fedora Talk Follow-up Meeting Wed or Thurs?

2009-12-01 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:24:54AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 08:48:57 -0800,
   John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
  
  Would folks be available at 3 PM EST this Wednesday or Thursday to
  do a check-in to see where we are at and what to tackle next?  We
  might also want to think about possible things to work on at FUDCon.
  
  Given the nature of our work, I'd also suggest that we meet on
  Fedora Talk instead of IRC :)
 
 One thing to watch for is if when turning recording it breaks the service
 for people who are already connected. This happened once at the last
 group session that I participated in. I don't know if it was a one time
 glitch or if there is a bug. The symptom was that when recording was
 turned out remote listeners lost audio. Calling back in again fixed things
 up.

File a ticket for this!

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Re: Fedora Talk Follow-up Meeting Wed or Thurs?

2009-12-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 17:12:27 -0500,
  Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:24:54AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  
  One thing to watch for is if when turning recording it breaks the service
  for people who are already connected. This happened once at the last
  group session that I participated in. I don't know if it was a one time
  glitch or if there is a bug. The symptom was that when recording was
  turned out remote listeners lost audio. Calling back in again fixed things
  up.
 
 File a ticket for this!

I filed:
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1847
to help remind people to keep an eye out for this.

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Updated systems for 2009-12-01

2009-12-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
UPDATED 2009-12-01
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app1done
app1.stgdone
app2done
app2.stgdone
app3done
app4done
app5done
app6done
app7done
asterisk1   done
asterisk2   done  # rebooted
backup2 done
bapp1   done
bastion1done
bastion2done
collab1 done
collab2 done
cvs1done
cvs1.stgdone
db1 done
db1.stg done
db2 done
db3 done
fas1done
fas1.stgdone
fas2done
hosted1 done
hosted2 done
ibiblio1done
log1done
memcached1  done
memcached2  done
nfs1done
noc1done  # qpidc excluded
noc2done
ns1 done  # needs reboot
ns2 done
osuosl1 done
people1 done
proxy1  done
proxy1.stg  done
proxy2  done
proxy3  done
proxy4  done
proxy5  done
proxy6  done
publictest1 done  # rebooted
publictest2 done  # rebooted
publictest3 done  # postgres/python-migrate/mediawiki excluded
publictest6 done  # mediawiki excluded
publictest7 done
publictest8 done  # rebooted
publictest14done
publictest15skipped # uses outside repo
publictest16done
puppet1 done
serverbeach1done  # needs reboot badly
serverbeach2done  # needs reboot badly
serverbeach3done  # needs reboot badly
serverbeach4done
serverbeach5done
smtp-mm1done
spin1   done
sync1   done
sync2   done
telia1  done
torrent1done
tummy1  done
value1  done
value2  done
xen1done
xen2done
xen3done
xen5done
xen6done
xen7done
xen8done
xen9done
xen10   done
xen11   done
xen12   done
xen13   done
xen14   done
xen15   done

SKIPPED (because I forgot to ask)
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compose-x862
koji1
koji1.stg
koji2
kojipkgs1
ppc10
ppc2
ppc3
ppc4
ppc5
ppc6
ppc7
ppc8
ppc9
qa1
releng1
releng1.stg
releng2
relepel1
secondary1
sign-bridge1
x86-1
x86-2
x86-3
x86-4
x86-5
x86-6
x86-7
xenbuilder4


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Re: Fedora Talk Follow-up Meeting Wed or Thurs?

2009-12-01 Thread Jon Stanley
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:

 Would folks be available at 3 PM EST this Wednesday or Thursday to
 do a check-in to see where we are at and what to tackle next?  We
 might also want to think about possible things to work on at FUDCon.

$DAYJOB has been so non-stop for me that I can't guarantee Wednesday
availability, but I'm on PTO for FUDCon starting on Thursday.
However, my bus leaves at 4.  Could we move it earlier in the day on
Thursday, say around 2 or so?

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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] openpkg license for specs?

2009-12-01 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/01/2009 06:42 AM, Alan Pevec wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 there's proposed spec in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541744#c1
 with the license which is not listed in
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#SoftwareLicenses
 
 ##  liboping.spec -- OpenPKG RPM Package Specification
 ##  Copyright (c) 2000-2009 OpenPKG Foundation e.V. http://openpkg.net/
 ##
 ##  Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for
 ##  any purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that
 ##  the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all
 ##  copies.
 ##
 ##  THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED
 ##  WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
 ##  MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED.
 ##  IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS AND COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND THEIR
 ##  CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL,
 ##  SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT
 ##  LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF
 ##  USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND
 ##  ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY,
 ##  OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT
 ##  OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
 ##  SUCH DAMAGE.
 ##
 
 Would this be allowed in Fedora?

Yes, that's MIT.

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Re: Lotus Notes 8.5 on F12?

2009-12-01 Thread Peter Hinse
Am 01.12.2009 01:33, schrieb Alan Milnes:
 2009/11/30 Peter Hinse l...@d0pefish.de:
 Hi all,

 anyone succeeded in running Lotus Notes 8.5 (or 8.5.1) on Fedora 12? The
 RPM installs fine, however the preview pane or some preference dialogs
 cannot be drawn. Copying some libgtk and libgdk libs to
 /opt/ibm/lotus/notes fixes some problems, the GTK decorations are
 missing then.
 
 Yes run it fine at work - not there at the moment but can check
 tomorrow what needs to be done.

Wonderful!
To clarify what I did so far: I copied the following libs from F11
(where Notes is working perfectly) to /opt/ibm/lotus/notes

- libgdk_pixbuf*
- libgdk_pixbuf_xlib*
- libgdk-x11*
- libgtk-x11*

The latest Ubuntu seems to have similar problems:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/427949

Regards,

Peter

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Re: How to install Fedora-12?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 22:03 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I was just wondering if there was a way of installing from my USB
 stick, even if I had to copy vmlinuz and initrd to my hard disk first.

Installing the LiveCd version from a stick is simple. It's how I
originally got F11 onto my netbook. Updating to F12 from the full DVD
download (even copied to a stick) is a lot harder than it should be. I
know it can be done because several people have reported doing it, but
they all recommend slightly different and rather hacky methods.

Perhaps a full install or update from USB devices should be added as an
option in future releases as I'm sure it's going to become an
increasingly common requirement.

I finally just did preupgrade and it worked, touch wood, but that
depends on having a working system (and network) when you're doing it.

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 23:16 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
[...]

 What I don't understand is where the version you have comes from. The
 README file I got with the version I downloaded clearly states that it
 is linked against libg++.so.27 - but I have no such library or
 anything close - I'd be curious if you do...

I'm afraid I can't give an intelligent answer to that. I'm on the road
and all the evidence, including and README files, is back home on my
desktop so I won't be able to look at it till January.

poc

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problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Germán Racca
Hello list,

I want to use revisor (in GUI mode) to create an optical live media of
F12, but before I've created a kickstart file using
system-config-kickstart to pass to revisor. Then, I run revisor using a
config file I've created including the F12-i386 repository. It preforms
several tasks from the list it displays

Resolve Dependencies - Done
Populating Statistics - Done
Downloading Packages - Done
Creating ext3 Filesystem - Done
Installing packages - Done
Configure System - Running...

and then it stays there indefinitely...looking at the console, it shows
the message available at the end of this mail.

This is the first time I use revisor and the kickstart creator.

Can anybody help me?

Regards,
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This filesystem will be automatically checked every 38 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
Tuning filesystem on /dev/loop0
tune2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
Setting maximal mount count to -1
Setting interval between checks to 0 seconds
Extending sparse file /var/tmp/revisor-rundir/tmp-/ext3fs.img to
4294967296
Mounting /dev/loop0 at /var/tmp/revisor
warning: setup-2.8.9-1.fc12.noarch: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature:
NOKEY, key ID 57bbccba
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/ready_screen.py, line
144, in button_forward_clicked
self.gui.next()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/__init__.py,
line 447, in next
self.default[self.current]['disp'](self)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/__init__.py,
line 314, in displayBuildMedia
self.BuildMedia.start()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/build_media.py,
line 64, in start
self.base.lift_off()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/base.py, line 893, in
lift_off
self.buildLiveMedia()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/base.py, line 1729, in
buildLiveMedia
liveImage.configure()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py, line
731, in configure
kickstart.RootPasswordConfig(self._instroot).apply(ksh.rootpw)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line
218, in apply
self.unset()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line
193, in unset
self.call([/usr/bin/passwd, -d, root])
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line
120, in call
raise errors.KickstartError(Unable to run %s! %(args))
imgcreate.errors.KickstartError/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:40:
 DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
  return str(self.message)
: Unable to run ['/usr/bin/passwd', '-d', 'root']!

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 23:46 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 2009/11/30 Sam Sharpe lists.red...@samsharpe.net:
  2009/11/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
[...]
 Actually my problem was that I naively thought that the version
 supplied on the NYT website is what you are using. It appears you are
 using this:
 
 http://www.litsoft.com/across/alite/download.htm

That's true. It's been 5 or 6 years since I did it but the binary hasn't
changed. It's dated 1997!

 To run that, I had to install:
 
 lesstif
 libXp
 libXpm
 compat-libstdc++-296

Yup, got all those.

 [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl
 ./acrossl: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8:
 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

The difference is that mine actually runs. It even displays the
crossword grid (with no text) and immediately segfaults. If run with no
command-line argument it starts normally and presents the File Open
dialogue. Trying to open the puzzle causes the segfault (I tried several
different puzzles just in case).

Just for the hell of it I also tried both versions from the NYT site
(one is statically linked to the Motif lib, the other is dynamic).
Interestingly, they are both different from the one I have, and neither
will even attempt to run:

$ ./acrossl
bash: ./acrossl: /lib/ld-linux.so.1: bad ELF interpreter: No such file
or directory

ldd of course doesn't help here, since it needs to run the binary.
However I suspect it wants the i386 version of glibc rather than the
installed i686 (which coincides with my original post even for the wrong
reason). I'm not sure I can even install the i386 glibc without wreaking
havoc.

 [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8
 [...@nc10 acrosslite1.2]$ ./acrossl
 ./acrossl: symbol lookup error: ./acrossl: undefined symbol: __eh_pc
 
 That appears more googlable, but at this point I have to admit I lost
 interest...

Understandable. Thanks all the same.

 ... I prefer crosswords on Paper :o)

I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper, as
I live outside the distribution area of the English-language press. In
any case, some NYT clues are impossible without encyclopedic knowledge
of American sports teams and personalities, so Google is a requirement
in extremis.

poc

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Re: [Off Topic] Announcing the Release of the World's First 64-bit Build of Google's ChromiumOS for Netbooks

2009-12-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 04:22:08 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
 I've uploaded the ChromiumOS64 files to Amazon S3 online storage
 cloud. If you use a download accelerator like prozilla, axel, or
 SKDownloader (all Linux based), you can achieve download speeds of up
 to 1 MegaBytes per second.

How about providing a torrent? If there are enough peers interested, it will 
outperform anything else in terms of speed.

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:07 on 01 Dec 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper,
 as I live outside the distribution area of the English-language
 press. In any case, some NYT clues are impossible without
 encyclopedic knowledge of American sports teams and personalities, so
 Google is a requirement in extremis.

FYI, the Guardian crosswords are free online in a Java applet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword

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Re: system gets freeze ... where to check log files

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 04:02 +0530, Jatin K wrote:
 Dear all
 
 I'm facing a strange problem in My FC12 64bit , suddenly my system 
 freezes and nothing seems to work ... no keyboard works no mouse moves , 
 what could be wrong? .. is there any system log file which can help to 
 find whats going on and what is the couse of the problem ( may be system 
 log or something) , I've checked /var/log/messages nothing seems to be 
 wrong , is there any log file which should I check ?

What video card do you have, and what driver are you using?

poc

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Re: Firefox performance with flash

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 22:07 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
 Hi all!!
 
 I've installed flash plugin from Adobe
 ( flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386), everything work ok, i mean,
 in firefox without the plugin activated, when I surf in a page with
 flash, firefox become extremely slow, and sometime it froze.
 
 Any idea?
 
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I strongly recommend you install a Flash-blocking add-on such as
NoScript. Then you won't be bothered by Flash content unless you
actually want to see it. Your session will also be more secure.

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Re: [Off Topic] Announcing the Release of the World's First 64-bit Build of Google's ChromiumOS for Netbooks

2009-12-01 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 04:22:08 Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
 I've uploaded the ChromiumOS64 files to Amazon S3 online storage
 cloud. If you use a download accelerator like prozilla, axel, or
 SKDownloader (all Linux based), you can achieve download speeds of up
 to 1 MegaBytes per second.

 How about providing a torrent? If there are enough peers interested, it will
 outperform anything else in terms of speed.

 Best, :-)
 Marko



Dear Marko,

I don't have enough upload bandwidth with my home broadband connection
to seed torrent files.

Have you tried downloading ChromiumOS64 already? What is the download
speed that you experienced?

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 10:24 +, Mark Knoop wrote:
 At 10:07 on 01 Dec 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper,
  as I live outside the distribution area of the English-language
  press. In any case, some NYT clues are impossible without
  encyclopedic knowledge of American sports teams and personalities, so
  Google is a requirement in extremis.
 
 FYI, the Guardian crosswords are free online in a Java applet.
 
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword

Interesting, they used to be paid (except for a sample) as the NYT ones
still are. I find British plain crosswords are too simple (about the
level of a NYT Monday or Tuesday) and the cryptic crosswords are a
completely different kettle of fish, perfect for when you want your ego
smashed by failing to complete more than a quarter of the answers. I've
become used to the NYT style and like to solve it every day, which I can
usually do, even the fiendish Saturdays.

The NYT also has a Java version. I dislike it, as I dislike all other
Java crosswords out there. For one thing, you can't usually save them
and continue later. For another, they all use different keyboard
conventions and are generally clunky.

Anyway, this is getting way off-topic :-)

poc

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Re: system gets freeze ... where to check log files

2009-12-01 Thread Jatin K

On 12/01/2009 03:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 04:02 +0530, Jatin K wrote:
   

Dear all

I'm facing a strange problem in My FC12 64bit , suddenly my system
freezes and nothing seems to work ... no keyboard works no mouse moves ,
what could be wrong? .. is there any system log file which can help to
find whats going on and what is the couse of the problem ( may be system
log or something) , I've checked /var/log/messages nothing seems to be
wrong , is there any log file which should I check ?
 

What video card do you have, and what driver are you using?

poc

   

this[1] is the result of lspci command ( I'm using FC12 64bit )


[1]--
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory 
Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series 
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #6 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 6 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 03)

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller 
(rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI 
Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller 
(rev 03)
08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)

0e:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
1a:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Device 10f7 (rev 01)
1a:00.1 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8120 (rev 01)
1a:00.2 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8130 (rev 01)

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Re: system gets freeze ... where to check log files

2009-12-01 Thread John Austin
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 10:24 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 04:02 +0530, Jatin K wrote:
  Dear all
  
  I'm facing a strange problem in My FC12 64bit , suddenly my system 
  freezes and nothing seems to work ... no keyboard works no mouse moves , 
  what could be wrong? .. is there any system log file which can help to 
  find whats going on and what is the couse of the problem ( may be system 
  log or something) , I've checked /var/log/messages nothing seems to be 
  wrong , is there any log file which should I check ?
 
 What video card do you have, and what driver are you using?
 
 poc
 

Are you using a network card/builtin chip that uses the sky2 driver ?

lspci -v

John


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Re: system gets freeze ... where to check log files

2009-12-01 Thread Jatin K

On 12/01/2009 04:25 PM, John Austin wrote:

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 10:24 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   

On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 04:02 +0530, Jatin K wrote:
 

Dear all

I'm facing a strange problem in My FC12 64bit , suddenly my system
freezes and nothing seems to work ... no keyboard works no mouse moves ,
what could be wrong? .. is there any system log file which can help to
find whats going on and what is the couse of the problem ( may be system
log or something) , I've checked /var/log/messages nothing seems to be
wrong , is there any log file which should I check ?
   

What video card do you have, and what driver are you using?

poc

 

Are you using a network card/builtin chip that uses the sky2 driver ?

lspci -v

John


   

Following[1] is output of lspci -v command

[1]---
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory 
Controller Hub (rev 07)

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series 
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA 
controller])

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 31
Memory at f680 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915

00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at f610 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
Capabilities: access denied

00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
I/O ports at 1820 [size=32]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #5 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21
I/O ports at 1840 [size=32]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #6 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
I/O ports at 1860 [size=32]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
Memory at f6504800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 03)

Subsystem: Dell Device 02bc
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
Memory at f650 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 2000-2fff
Memory behind bridge: f800-f9ff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f000-f1ff
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=08, subordinate=08, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 3000-3fff
Memory behind bridge: c000-c00f
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f600-f60f
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express 
Port 3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=0e, subordinate=0f, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 4000-4fff
Memory behind bridge: fa00-fbff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f200-f3ff
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver
Kernel modules: shpchp


Re: problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Mogens Kjaer

On 12/01/2009 10:54 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
...

This is the first time I use revisor and the kickstart creator.


Have you tried with the .ks files in /usr/share/spin-kickstarts ?

Mogens

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Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 15:44 -0800, Joel Gomberg wrote:
 On 11/30/2009 11:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  Thanks. I'd looked at Xword some time ago and wasn't very impressed at
  the time. The latest version is over 3 years old, which is not
  encouraging. I guess I don't have any option if I can't get acrossl to
  work (I tried it on Wine once but it was flaky, and I can't run a VM on
  my netbook :-()
 
 I can't see any significant difference between xword and ACL, except that you 
 can't directly enter the solution code to unlock the puzzle.  You can, 
 however, 
 simply download and open the puzzle the next day, say that you want to 
 continue, 
 and then the solution code will be there automagically.

Trying it now. It's more usable than I remember (even though it's
exactly the same. We cruciverbalists are picky :-)

poc

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Limewire

2009-12-01 Thread Hector E. Celis
Where in the #...@% do I get a simple package ,rpm, for
j2re = 1.4.1 is needed by package LimeWire-free-4.14.0-0.i386 (/LimeWireLinux)

The later Lime Wire is not for Fedora it is a debian Ubuntu 

Thank you
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Re: Limewire

2009-12-01 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Hector E. Celis
hector.ce...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Where in the #...@% do I get a simple package ,rpm, for
 j2re = 1.4.1 is needed by package LimeWire-free-4.14.0-0.i386 
 (/LimeWireLinux)

 The later Lime Wire is not for Fedora it is a debian Ubuntu

 Thank you
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limewire is no longueur distributed as rpm (now it's a deb !)
get zip from http://www.limewire.com/download/?os=other
unzip it somewhere
run runLime.sh

don't  forget to install java-1.6.0-openjdk package

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Re: problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Germán Racca
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 12:16 +0100, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
 On 12/01/2009 10:54 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
 ...
  This is the first time I use revisor and the kickstart creator.
 
 Have you tried with the .ks files in /usr/share/spin-kickstarts ?
 
 Mogens

Yes, I've tried revisor using the various kickstart files
under /usr/share/spin-kickstarts, but they don't work also. Here is the
console output:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/load_kickstart.py,
line 195, in button_forward_clicked
self.store_options()
  File
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/load_kickstart.py,
line 165, in store_options
self.cfg.load_kickstart(self.cfg.kickstart_file)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/cfg.py, line 537, in
load_kickstart
self.ksobj.read_file(fn)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/kickstart.py, line 95,
in read_file
self.parser.readKickstart(url)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line
767, in readKickstart
self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline())
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line
609, in _stateMachine
self.readKickstart (args[1], reset=False)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line
767, in readKickstart
self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline())
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line
638, in _stateMachine
self.handleCommand(lineno, args)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line
471, in handleCommand
self.handler.dispatcher(args, lineno, self._preceededInclude)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/base.py, line 376,
in dispatcher
obj = self.commands[cmd].parse(args[1:])
  File
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/commands/firewall.py,
line 116, in parse
(opts, extra) = self.op.parse_args(args=args, lineno=self.lineno)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/options.py, line
106, in parse_args
return OptionParser.parse_args(self, **kwargs)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/optparse.py, line 1383, in parse_args
self.error(str(err))
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pykickstart/options.py, line
51, in error
raise KickstartParseError, formatErrorMsg(self.lineno, msg=msg)
pykickstart.errors.KickstartParseError: The following problem occurred
on line 15 of the kickstart file:

no such option: --service

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Re: problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Mogens Kjaer

On 12/01/2009 01:39 PM, Germán Racca wrote:
...

pykickstart.errors.KickstartParseError: The following problem occurred
on line 15 of the kickstart file:

no such option: --service



You'll have to remove --service=mdns from the firewall line
in fedora-live-base.ks

Also I had to disable the anaconda-updates repository in
/etc/revisor/conf.d/revisor-f12-i386.conf to get revisor
to run.

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Re: Upgrade from F11 to F12 - problem with LVM and raid

2009-12-01 Thread jaivuk
Third update: I made it work. I had some space on the drive so I created new
partition for / where I installed F12.
Raid/LVM2 support in F12 upgrade DVD is not completely broken but it
displays errors and warning when it tries to mount/inspect my
raid1 md partitions (I have lvm2 on top of them). Anaconda stops and
restarts md arrays several times. I have about 10 of them and whole this
procedure takes about 15 minutes...

Once F12 was installed the boot process was smooth and no errors or new
warnings were displayed.
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Re: How to install Fedora-12?

2009-12-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Steven Susbauer wrote:

 But if I click on Install on Hard Disk,
 won't it look on the hard disk where vmlinuz and initrd have been copied
 for the data to download?
 
 They are copied into ram on boot, not put into the hard disk.

I think you have mis-read, or not read, the thread.
It was suggested that one _should_ copy vmlinuz and initrd to the hard disk,
as a way of installing Fedora-12 if the machine does not support
booting from a USB stick.


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Re: problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Germán Racca
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 13:43 +0100, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
 On 12/01/2009 01:39 PM, Germán Racca wrote:
 ...
  pykickstart.errors.KickstartParseError: The following problem occurred
  on line 15 of the kickstart file:
 
  no such option: --service
 
 
 You'll have to remove --service=mdns from the firewall line
 in fedora-live-base.ks
 
 Also I had to disable the anaconda-updates repository in
 /etc/revisor/conf.d/revisor-f12-i386.conf to get revisor
 to run.
 
 Mogens

OK, I did it, but I got a similar error as before:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/ready_screen.py, line
144, in button_forward_clicked
self.gui.next()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/__init__.py,
line 447, in next
self.default[self.current]['disp'](self)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/__init__.py,
line 314, in displayBuildMedia
self.BuildMedia.start()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/modgui/build_media.py,
line 64, in start
self.base.lift_off()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/base.py, line 893, in
lift_off
self.buildLiveMedia()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/revisor/base.py, line 1729, in
buildLiveMedia
liveImage.configure()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py, line
731, in configure
kickstart.RootPasswordConfig(self._instroot).apply(ksh.rootpw)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line
218, in apply
self.unset()
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line
193, in unset
self.call([/usr/bin/passwd, -d, root])
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line
120, in call
raise errors.KickstartError(Unable to run %s! %(args))
imgcreate.errors.KickstartError/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:40:
 DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated aIt seems that 
the error is related to the line nro. s of Python 2.6
  return str(self.message)
: Unable to run ['/usr/bin/passwd', '-d', 'root']!

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F12 starting Gnote

2009-12-01 Thread Steven Stern
When I upgraded to F12 from F11, I installed Gnote and removed Tomboy.
To get Gnote to start with Gnome, I added it to the session preferences
as /usr/bin/gnote. Now, when I login, Gnote starts, displaying the
search window.  When I close the search window, Gnote exits entirely.
If I then restart it from Applications - Accessories, it starts again
(properly) as a tray icon.

How do I get it to start as a tray icon with the session start?


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Re: How to install Fedora-12?

2009-12-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 I was just wondering if there was a way of installing from my USB
 stick, even if I had to copy vmlinuz and initrd to my hard disk first.
 
 Installing the LiveCd version from a stick is simple.

It's simple if you can boot from a USB stick.
(In my experience installing Fedora-12 in this way
is much easier than any previous version of Fedora).

But the question is: can one install from the stick in some way
if the machine does _not_ support booting from it?
The suggestion was that one should copy vmlinuz and initrd
from the stick to the hard disk,
and add a stanza to grub.conf to boot from this.
My question is: would clicking on Copy to hard disk at that point
look at the USB stick for the data to copy?

I should really try this instead of talking about it -
but I have already installed Fedora-12 on this machine by PXEboot.

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Re: problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Mogens Kjaer

On 12/01/2009 02:15 PM, Germán Racca wrote:
...

OK, I did it, but I got a similar error as before:


Hm, it works for me.

Does this work:

cd /usr/share/spin-kickstarts
revisor --cli --yes --model=f12-i386 --live-optical 
--kickstart=fedora-livecd-desktop.ks


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F12 + ath9k + hostapd (0.7.0) = problems

2009-12-01 Thread jaivuk
Hello guys,

After the a bit problematic upgrade to F12 I tried to make my wifi AP (WPA2)
work. SoI compiled hostapd trunk version I used without a problem in F11 and
I immediately experienced DHCP problems and wifi clients were disconnected
after about 2-5 minutes after the handshake was established (and did not
reconnect afterwards).

I made an upgrade to the latest F12 kernel and tried again. I also tried
latest developement hostapd version - 0.7.0 but without luck.

As the last resort I managed to install latest F11 kernel to my F12 and
bingo - wifi is stable and DHCP problems dissapeared.

So in summary:
F12 kernel kernel-PAE-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686 and
kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 do not work for me with hostapd 0.7.0 or
older trunk version.
F11 kernel kernel-PAE-2.6.30.9-99.fc11.i686 works fine.

Cheers,

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Re: How to install Fedora-12?

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 13:16 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  I was just wondering if there was a way of installing from my USB
  stick, even if I had to copy vmlinuz and initrd to my hard disk first.
  
  Installing the LiveCd version from a stick is simple.
 
 It's simple if you can boot from a USB stick.
 (In my experience installing Fedora-12 in this way
 is much easier than any previous version of Fedora).

Again, it's simple for the LiveCD version. It's not simple for the DVD
version when you have no optical drive but do have a (large enough) USB
stick, even when the machine can boot from USB.

 But the question is: can one install from the stick in some way
 if the machine does _not_ support booting from it?

That's beyond my experience.

poc

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Re: How to install Fedora-12?

2009-12-01 Thread Mikkel
On 12/01/2009 07:16 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 
 But the question is: can one install from the stick in some way
 if the machine does _not_ support booting from it?
 The suggestion was that one should copy vmlinuz and initrd
 from the stick to the hard disk,
 and add a stanza to grub.conf to boot from this.
 My question is: would clicking on Copy to hard disk at that point
 look at the USB stick for the data to copy?
 
Something to think about - it is already using the USB stick as its
source. The file system that is on the stick is a compressed file
system, so it is already accessing it. When it does the copy to
disk, it is coping the expanded version of the file system, not the
compressed image. At that point, it does not care where the
compressed image is.

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Re: F12 + ath9k + hostapd (0.7.0) = problems

2009-12-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth

jaivuk on 12/01/2009 07:36 AM wrote:

After the a bit problematic upgrade to F12 I tried to make my wifi AP
(WPA2) work. SoI compiled hostapd trunk version I used without a problem
in F11 and I immediately experienced DHCP problems and wifi clients were
disconnected after about 2-5 minutes after the handshake was established
(and did not reconnect afterwards).


The ath9k driver is unstable[1] at the moment.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538792

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Re: How to install Fedora-12?

2009-12-01 Thread Mikkel
On 11/30/2009 09:16 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Once the kernel boots, it will see the USB drive as long as the USB
 and USB storage modules are build into initrd.img. Once the kernel
 and the initial ramdisk are loaded, you are no longer using the BIOS
 for access.
 
 But if I click on Install on Hard Disk,
 won't it look on the hard disk where vmlinuz and initrd have been copied
 for the data to download?
 
No. Remember, the file system from the live CD is a compressed file
system. It is the uncompressed, working version of the file system
that is copied. If it just copied the compressed image, then updates
would quickly become a problem. You can not write to the compressed
file system, and using a persistent overlay, like you do when
running from the USB stick, is not a good option.

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What component is wrong about a keyboard?

2009-12-01 Thread Tom Horsley
I find this nonsense in my Xorg.0.log file:

(II) config/hal: Adding input device Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
(**) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Device: /dev/input/event5
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Found 1 mouse buttons
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Found scroll wheel(s)
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Found relative axes
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Found absolute axes
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Found keys
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Configuring as mouse
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Configuring as keyboard
(**) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: EmulateWheelButton: 4, 
EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech Logitech Illuminated 
Keyboard (type: KEYBOARD)

There is absolutely no hardware on this keyboard that could be
considered a mouse. No wheel, no touchpad, nuthin. Where is
it getting this idea? If it is really a bug, what component
should it be reported against?

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[OT] new open source digital asset management software

2009-12-01 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  DISCLAIMER:  a good friend of mine works for the company, but i have
absolutely no financial interest of any kind.

http://www.nuxeo.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/QuickStart_DAM

i am about to download it and see how well it works on f12.  it's
pre-release so the possibility of breakage is very real.

like fedora people need that kind of caution. :-)

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KVM reboot fails

2009-12-01 Thread Seann Clark

All,

   I have been searching google for about two weeks, and looking over 
everything else and I just can't figure this out, so I am polling on the 
greater combined experience of the list to help me out with this.


   I have recently set up a virtual machine under KVM, which runs fine 
on my system. The problem is, I can't reboot the system, nor can it 
reboot itself. The Guest is running Windows 2008 Standard, and instead 
of shutting down, or rebooting, after it is all done, it goes to a 
BSOD,  which only happens when it is trying to reboot. If I try to do 
this from virsh I get the error:


libvir: error : this function is not supported by the hypervisor: 
virDomainReboot



The host running the VM's is fedora 9 64 bit edition, that I haven't 
gotten around to upgrading yet (patch management is EOL, or very close 
to EOL, so upgrading is something I have been working on getting done) 
virsh is version 0.5.1 and qemu-kvm is version 0.9.1 (kvm-65).


Outside of sucking it up and upgrading, which is what I figure would 
need to be done, I would like to try to understand why this is having a 
problem. If I can fix this, I can take my time and fix other issues that 
are preventing me from upgrading properly instead of being rushed.



Thanks in advance,
Seann


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fedora-related pdftohtml utility?

2009-12-01 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  as a short followup to my last post, apparently, a particular
software package advertises that it needs PDFtoHTML.  there's no such
fedora package, but there *is* poppler-utils:

$ rpm -ql poppler-utils
/usr/bin/pdffonts
/usr/bin/pdfimages
/usr/bin/pdfinfo
/usr/bin/pdftohtml
/usr/bin/pdftoppm
/usr/bin/pdftops
/usr/bin/pdftotext
... snip ...

does anyone know offhand whether having poppler-utils installed will
satisfy the alleged PDFtoHTML requirement?  or whether i should get
PDFtoHTML from sourceforge?  (i can't download the software itself
just yet in order to test.  if i could, i'd just check if it was
trying to execute something called pdftohtml.)

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thoggen not loading

2009-12-01 Thread charles zeitler
when i attempt to use thoggen, it says:


registering static thoggen plugins
Warning: Unable to create trees RDF storage.
Performance can be improved by upgrading librdf.

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register
existing type `GstSignalProcessor'

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion
`initialization_value != 0' failed

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_type_register_static: assertion `parent_type  0' failed

(plugin-scanner:3424): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_register:
assertion `g_type_is_a (type, GST_TYPE_ELEMENT)' failed

rpm -V on thoggen, raptor, rasqal, redland, glib and gstreamer all pass.

any hints?

thanks

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Re: thoggen not loading

2009-12-01 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 12/01/2009 05:20 PM, charles zeitler wrote:

when i attempt to use thoggen, it says:


registering static thoggen plugins
Warning: Unable to create trees RDF storage.
Performance can be improved by upgrading librdf.

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register
existing type `GstSignalProcessor'

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion
`initialization_value != 0' failed

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_type_register_static: assertion `parent_type  0' failed

(plugin-scanner:3424): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_register:
assertion `g_type_is_a (type, GST_TYPE_ELEMENT)' failed

rpm -V on thoggen, raptor, rasqal, redland, glib and gstreamer all pass.

any hints?

thanks

charles zeitler

   
Reporting a bug on this right now, since it affects more programs that 
depend on gstreamer and will keep you posted.


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Re: problem using revisor in F12

2009-12-01 Thread Germán Racca
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 14:22 +0100, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
 On 12/01/2009 02:15 PM, Germán Racca wrote:
 ...
  OK, I did it, but I got a similar error as before:
 
 Hm, it works for me.
 
 Does this work:
 
 cd /usr/share/spin-kickstarts
 revisor --cli --yes --model=f12-i386 --live-optical 
 --kickstart=fedora-livecd-desktop.ks
 
 Mogens

OK, I ran revisor --cli --yes --model=f12-i386 --live-optical
--kickstart=fedora-livecd-lxde.ks and it worked...but why it didn't work
with my own kickstart file? Maybe the gui mode of revisor is the
problem...I'll try again with my ks file in cli mode.

Thanks Mogens for replying all my messages!

Cheers,
Germán.

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Re: thoggen not loading

2009-12-01 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 12/01/2009 05:20 PM, charles zeitler wrote:

when i attempt to use thoggen, it says:


registering static thoggen plugins
Warning: Unable to create trees RDF storage.
Performance can be improved by upgrading librdf.

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register
existing type `GstSignalProcessor'

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion
`initialization_value != 0' failed

(plugin-scanner:3424): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:
g_type_register_static: assertion `parent_type  0' failed

(plugin-scanner:3424): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_register:
assertion `g_type_is_a (type, GST_TYPE_ELEMENT)' failed

rpm -V on thoggen, raptor, rasqal, redland, glib and gstreamer all pass.

any hints?

thanks

charles zeitler

   

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=543047

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Problem to mount floppy after update to kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686

2009-12-01 Thread Joachim Backes
After applying the most recent FC12 updates I have problems to mount 
floppies: The device /dev/fd0 is lost, and I have to do call modprobe 
floppy for getting the floppy operable

(kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686).

No such problem with kernel-PAE-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.

Anybody has similar problems?

UDEV problem?

Installed:  libudev-145-14.fc12.i686, udev-145-14.fc12.i686

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Re: where's the GNOME sound recorder?

2009-12-01 Thread Jud Craft
Thanks!

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wine on x86_64 F12

2009-12-01 Thread Neal Becker
I'm not having any luck with wine on x86_64.  With the full complement 
of wine* installed, nothing much works.  Problems seem to be 32 vs. 64 
bit issues.

So, I tried removing all wine*.x86_64, leaving the i686.  This doesn't 
work either.
 winecfg
wine: created the configuration directory '/home/nbecker/.wine'
wine: could not exec wineserver

I'm guessing a working wine setup would require grabbing additional i686 
packages that are not in the x86_64 repo.

Anyone else looked at this?

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Re: F12 NFS Failures

2009-12-01 Thread Todd Denniston

John Austin wrote, On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:21:58 +:

On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 15:00 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 11/21/2009 10:41 AM, John Austin wrote:

On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 11:11 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:

On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 10:09 +, John Austin wrote:


When copying a large file (2.7GB) from the server to the
F12 m/c a complete freeze of the F12 machine occurs.


I haven't seen freezes, but I have seen corruption when trying to copy
large files (e.g. like a DVD iso image) via NFS. In fact, this happened
to me when I was trying to install an F12 virtual machine on my F11 box
(so I could try it out before deciding whether or not to bite the bullet
and upgrade the host OS). I copied over the DVD iso image, then tried to
install a VM from it, and it failed the media test. Sure enough, it also
failed the sha256sum test. Copying the same DVD iso file via scp instead
worked fine. I do not trust NFS for large files.

--Greg



Hi Greg

That's interesting and very worrying - surely it can't/shouldn't happen!

I have been using NFS for years for all types/sizes of files and
never had a problem until the last couple of months.

1.  The Centos/RHEL 5.3/5.4 kernel had a serious bug that has been fixed with 
the
latest kernel update

2.  Now this F12 problem

Surely a very large worldwide community uses NFS ?

OK the F12 case could be my finger trouble or even a hardware problem

I will install F12 on a second machine and test again (against the same server)

Can you verify that you run into the same issue if you run NFS over TCP
as opposed to NFS over UDP (it's an option in the mount command on the
client, use either proto=tcp or proto=udp).

By default, the system queries the server and selects a protocol based
on what's being asked of it.  See the TRANSPORT METHODS section of
man nfs.
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Hi Rick

Many thanks for the reply - you have found a work-around !!

Just tested my machine with UDP and TCP
This was using md5sum for about 10GB over the NFS mount

1. The default for F12/Centos5.4 appears to be TCP - which freezes
2. Forcing UDP gives NO errors for 10GB transfer
3. Forcing TCP gives a freeze

Having briefly read the man pages this is the opposite of what I would
expect and of what you suggest !!

There must be a timing problem somewhere - 


Please see the other thread Sky2 NIC Problem? - Was F12 NFS Failures
for other tests I have carried out

Regards

John






what are your other mount options?
having seen the Sky2 NIC Problem message, your card/driver may be having issues, but some nfs 
options may help/hurt.


I am assuming that you only have 'hard' and not 'hard,intr' as options to the 
mount.
And for transferring large files over NFS, I have had experiences that say stay 
away from 'soft' NFS.

it is interesting that TCP nfs locks the machine and fails to copy the very large file, while UDP 
succeeds in copying the same file with the same device/drver. BTW when you say that UDP gave no 
errors, do you mean that from the user program perspective (cp, and then sha256sum) there were no 
errors, or that from both the user and syslog perspective there were no errors? I am wondering if 
you have found a place where the UDP code deals with a bad packet correctly and the TCP version has 
not seen enough (bad environment) testing. Wouldn't happen to have a serial cable around so you can 
capture where the kernel goes bonkers at would you? (note, never done the serial console myself.)


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Re: wine on x86_64 F12

2009-12-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not having any luck with wine on x86_64.  With the full complement
 of wine* installed, nothing much works.  Problems seem to be 32 vs. 64
 bit issues.

 So, I tried removing all wine*.x86_64, leaving the i686.  This doesn't
 work either.
  winecfg
 wine: created the configuration directory '/home/nbecker/.wine'
 wine: could not exec wineserver

 I'm guessing a working wine setup would require grabbing additional i686
 packages that are not in the x86_64 repo.

 Anyone else looked at this?

I ran into this a few weeks ago and don't remember what fixed it. I
know I played with installing/uninstalling various wine related
packages. Dumb question: Have you rebooted after running into this
error? I think I remember finding something that suggest that as a
solution... Maybe there is some environment variable set between the
i686 and 64 bit packages that gets things confused which gets cleared
during a reboot.

Unless you are actually going to run 64bit windows apps I would
suggest not installing any wine x86_64 packages.

Richard

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Re: httpd with symbolic links and selinux enabled

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 11/26/2009 03:54 AM, Justin Jereza wrote:
 Have you configured Apache to follow symlinks?
 http://localhost/manual/mod/core.html#options
 
 Yes, Apache follows symlinks. That's why http://localhost/~user/foo/
 is accessible.
 
 You also need appropriate file and directory permissions (world readable
 files and directories, and directories need to be world executable,
 too).
 
 All necessary permissions are set. Only directories inside ~/foo that
 contain symlinks are inaccessible. Remove the symlinks, and they
 become accessible. Also, http://localhost/~user/foo/bar/baz.html is
 accessible even though http://localhost/~user/foo/bar/ isn't. Finally,
 symlinks within ~/public_html itself work fine. So it seems that
 symlinks within symlinks are the only ones that give me trouble.
 
 Should have attached the following log messages earlier:
 
 Nov 26 16:49:26 adnix kernel: type=1400 audit(1259225366.816:11484):
 avc:  denied  { read } for  pid=21208 comm=httpd name=index.html
 dev=dm-2 ino=5144788 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0
 tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 tclass=lnk_file
 Nov 26 16:49:26 adnix kernel: type=1400 audit(1259225366.816:11485):
 avc:  denied  { getattr } for  pid=21208 comm=httpd
 path=/home/justin/foo/bar/index.html dev=dm-2 ino=5144788
 scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0
 tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 tclass=lnk_file
 
You need to fix the context to match that in public_html

chcon -R -t httpd_user_content_t foo 

Would do it.

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Re: Updating selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-46.fc12.noarch failed

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 11/29/2009 09:51 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
   Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-46.fc12.noarch 
 94/302 
 libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in 
 module: type/attribute entropyd_var_run_t (No such file or directory).
 libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or 
 directory).
 semodule:  Failed!
 
 

Try to remove the entropyd package

semodule -r audio_entropy

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error msgs during today's kernel update

2009-12-01 Thread fred smith

doing today's updates gives this during the kernel update:

  Installing : kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686
  32/70 
W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2500_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2400_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2322_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2300_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2200_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware ql2100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko

I think these are wireless bits, no? If so they don't matter to me
since my eeepc 901 has rt286sta, but still I've never seen these
happen in earlier updates, so something looks wrong.

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Re: Sendmail not forwarding under F12

2009-12-01 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 11/30/2009 03:52:17 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 2009/11/30 Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net:
  With the installation of F12, Sendmail is no longer honoring
  my .forward -- nothing has changed (except the permissions, I've
 been
  hacking). Mail is delivered to /var/mail/geoff
 
  /var/log/maillog
  Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3272]: nAUMY4Fn003272: to=geoff,
  ctladdr=geoff (500/500), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03,
 mailer=relay,
  pri=30207, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
  (nAUMY4tR003273 Message accepted for delivery)
  Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3278]: nAUMY4tR003273: forward
 /home/
  geoff/.forward.mtranch: Permission denied
  Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3278]: nAUMY4tR003273: forward
 /home/
  geoff/.forward: Permission denied
  Nov 30 14:34:07 mtranch sendmail[3278]: nAUMY4tR003273:
  to=ge...@mtranch.mtranch.com, ctladdr=ge...@mtranch.mtranch.com
  (500/500), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, 
 pri=30706,
  dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
 
  /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
  O DontBlameSendmail=forwardfileinunsafedirpath,
  forwardfileinunsafedirpathsafe
 
 
  ge...@mtranch[4]-ll ~/.forward
  -r. 1 geoff geoff 33 2009-11-30 10:36 /home/geoff/.forward
 
  Any suggestions?
 
 1) Assuming this worked before when the permissions were like that,
 check for SELinux messages in /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure
 
 2) Change the permissions - I think the sendmail user might prefer
 read permissions on that file and the directories above it, as I'm 
 not
 sure it runs as the user (I don't play with sendmail much these 
 days).

Sam, thanks for the reply.

1) Nothing there, alas.
2) Permissions in the parent directories are drwxr-xr-x.





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To dd or to rsync, that's the question...

2009-12-01 Thread Dan Thurman


Which is the preferred backup solution?

As it seems, when I use rsync to copy data from disk1 partitionX
over to disk2 partition X, I noticed that if one uses Fedora Selinux,
one has to touch /.autorelabel for that partition.  It seems to work,
except in cases where the UUID is being hard-wired especially
with HAL devices and I started noticing it in cases where xorg
devices are sometimes spitting out errors showing UUID devices,
and crashes Nautilus but recovers and it does this almost every time
the system is rebooted into Fedora.

On the other hand, if one decides to use dd instead, does this preserve
the UUID of the devices including that of the disk partition and it
should work perfectly even without the use of /.autorelabel?

I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) and
wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the data
off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that means.

In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this would
not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy would
perhaps also fail.  This was the reason I was forced to use rsync in order
to get the data copied over (with errors: I had two files corrupted and
I assumed that a reinstall of the OS would pickup the missing pieces)
so this leads to Vista as follows on this case, however, I experimented
on another system using dd and Vista, it seems to make no difference
at all when trying to 'upgrade' or reinstall the OS on top of the existing
OS.

I noticed that dd was the only solution for XP and it works, on the
other hand it does not work for Vista.  What I did in the Vista case
was to rsync the Vista partition to disk2/Vista partition, bootrec /fixBoot,
set active (boot) to the drive2/Vista partition and completely reinstall
Vista (because I could not figure out how to 'update' instead of Install
as the Update was greyed out), and in doing it this way, the Vista/DVD
seemed to recognize the partition as such, but moved the contents to
windows.old and proceeded to complete the installation.  Of course,
this means a complete manual reinstall of 3rd party software and user
profile, a royal pain in the a$$.  Interestingly though, it appears that
one does not need to reactivate the license, and I have yet to see it being
asked for.

Any pointers/advice is appreciated!

Kind regards,
Dan

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RE: To dd or to rsync, that's the question...

2009-12-01 Thread Gabriel - IP Guys
Use rsync if it's a working set of data, that is the data changes
regularly and you want to keep everything in sync. Otherwise DD for
speed!

 -Original Message-
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 boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Dan Thurman
 Sent: 01 December 2009 18:02
 To: Fedora Users
 Subject: To dd or to rsync, that's the question...
 
 
 Which is the preferred backup solution?
 
 As it seems, when I use rsync to copy data from disk1 partitionX
 over to disk2 partition X, I noticed that if one uses Fedora Selinux,
 one has to touch /.autorelabel for that partition.  It seems to work,
 except in cases where the UUID is being hard-wired especially
 with HAL devices and I started noticing it in cases where xorg
 devices are sometimes spitting out errors showing UUID devices,
 and crashes Nautilus but recovers and it does this almost every time
 the system is rebooted into Fedora.
 
 On the other hand, if one decides to use dd instead, does this
preserve
 the UUID of the devices including that of the disk partition and it
 should work perfectly even without the use of /.autorelabel?
 
 I am trying to get data off of disk1 which is failing (via smartd) and
 wish to use the correct backup and restore method getting the data
 off of disk1 onto disk2 without integrity loss, whatever that means.
 
 In the case of dd, it falls flat, if there are sector errors and this
 would
 not work, as in my case - so backup programs that do byte copy would
 perhaps also fail.  This was the reason I was forced to use rsync in
 order
 to get the data copied over (with errors: I had two files corrupted
and
 I assumed that a reinstall of the OS would pickup the missing pieces)
 so this leads to Vista as follows on this case, however, I
experimented
 on another system using dd and Vista, it seems to make no difference
 at all when trying to 'upgrade' or reinstall the OS on top of the
 existing
 OS.
 
 I noticed that dd was the only solution for XP and it works, on the
 other hand it does not work for Vista.  What I did in the Vista case
 was to rsync the Vista partition to disk2/Vista partition, bootrec
 /fixBoot,
 set active (boot) to the drive2/Vista partition and completely
 reinstall
 Vista (because I could not figure out how to 'update' instead of
 Install
 as the Update was greyed out), and in doing it this way, the Vista/DVD
 seemed to recognize the partition as such, but moved the contents to
 windows.old and proceeded to complete the installation.  Of course,
 this means a complete manual reinstall of 3rd party software and user
 profile, a royal pain in the a$$.  Interestingly though, it appears
 that
 one does not need to reactivate the license, and I have yet to see it
 being
 asked for.
 
 Any pointers/advice is appreciated!
 
 Kind regards,
 Dan
 
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