Re: mac usb drive problem with F11

2010-01-08 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/9 Dave Stevens :
> I guess the answer to that is no.
>

Did you see my email about disabling journalling? I'm pretty confident
that if you do that, you will be able to write to it under Linux -
it's still HFS+, just without journalling.

You can re-enable journalling under OS X afterwards if you want to.

OS X cannot read NTFS AFAIK.

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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-08 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/9 Tony Nelson :
> According to that reference, Dirac is a typical lossy encoding method.
> The loss is introduced by the Quantization step, while the compression
> comes from entropy-coding the quantized (decimated) data with
> Arithmetic Coding.

Yes, that's with lossy compression on top of wavelets, as opposed to
discrete cosine transformations, according to Wikipedia.

However the website (and BBC site) say that it can employ lossless compression:
"Dirac has the capability of compressing high resolution files for
production, compression for broadcast content, and compression for web
2.0 applications. Compression can be either lossless or visually
lossless."
"http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/uses.shtml";

When I played with it a while back, I'm pretty sure there was an
option for lossless.

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Re: kernel module

2010-01-08 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/9 Luca :
> Hi all,
>  I created a kernel module which can be passed some command line arguments
> (I tried that with insmod and it works).
>
> Now I would like, when I start the kernel with grub, to have this module
> loaded at boot time so I can pass, at boot time, a kernel boot option to it.
>

I think this usually happens in a modules configuration file.
Something like this?
"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelCommonProblems#How_to_set_module_options_for_boot_drivers";

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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 Marcel Rieux :
> I checked a bit Wikipedia to understand the matter. It seems that Ogg
> Theora is free and offers good quality streaming. Why then has Dirac
> been developed?

Dirac is based on wavelets, completely different technology. It's also
lossless, while Theora is not.

"http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/technology.shtml";

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Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 Matthew Saltzman :
>
> No need to rebuild.  I just installed akmod-nvidia (the 64-bit one) and
> added  "rdblacklist=nouveau" to the kernel line in /etc/grub.conf.  You
> can add "nomodeset", but I didn't need to.  This is a 64-bit F12.
>

You could do that, but it's already blacklisted in the system. When
you get a kernel update it will not be included. Problem is that it's
included in the current initramfs, so if you reboot it'll be loaded.
Doing either will work, but really Yum should probably do this after
it blacklists nouveau.

>>
>> Update your modules database:
>> su -c 'depmod -ae'
>>
>> Create an nvidia xorg.conf:
>> su -c 'nvidia-xconfig'
>
> Didn't need to do these either.
>

Maybe not, but it covers all bases, just in case. If he doesn't do
this and he can't load the module on a reboot, then we'll waste time
trying to find out why. Just doing it makes sure it'll work :-)

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/1 Chris Smart :
> Has anyone looked into openSUSE's brilliant integration of Firefox
> into KDE4? Is this something that interests the Fedora community?
>

I have stumbled across a Firefox add-on theme called "Oxygen KDE"
which I think does a pretty amazing job of making Firefox look like a
KDE app.
I scanned the extracted files with ClamAV and it was clean, but I
still recommend you do this yourself too.

If you're after a solution, give this a try. To see what it's like
I've put an entry on my blog:
"http://blog.christophersmart.com/2010/01/08/make-firefox-look-like-a-kde-app-in-one-simple-step/";

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 Chris Smart :
> I have stumbled across a Firefox add-on theme called "Oxygen KDE"
> which I think does a pretty amazing job of making Firefox look like a
> KDE app.

Oh, and this is a great add-on too, plasma notification:
"https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12196";

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Re: How to verify nvidia drivers working

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 steve :
>
> I guess that means I don’t have the drivers installed after all :-)
>

First, make sure you have it installed correctly.

If you are running 64 bit and have added the RPMFusion repositories, then run:
su -c 'yum install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64'

If you're running 32 bit, then add the RPMFusion repo and run:
su -c 'yum install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs'

This will install required libs and blacklist nouveau driver.

If you had kernel based modesetting enabled, then re-build your
initial ram disk:
su -c 'dracut -f /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)'

Update your modules database:
su -c 'depmod -ae'

Create an nvidia xorg.conf:
su -c 'nvidia-xconfig'

Reboot.

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Re: mac usb drive problem with F11

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 Rick Stevens :
>
> AFAIK, only HFS, HFS+ (journaled HFS) isn't there yet.

Yes, that's what I thought. Interestingly though his mount command
shows that it's mounted rw, yet if he couldn't write to it I'd expect
some kind of error.

So Dave, under OS X you can turn journalling OFF on the device, then
reboot into Linux and try it without journalling.
It's something like:

sudo diskutil disableJournal /Volumes/VOLUME_NAME

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Re: Clean install of Fedora 12 will not bring up login screen after upgrade

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 John Nissley :
> I can boot to text mode fine.  I can then log in and type startx and the GUI
> will come up and operate correctly but if I try to boot directly into the
> GUI mode I do not get the log in screen to allow me to log in.

Sorry, was this with or without kernel based modesetting enabled?

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 jorge a secas :
> we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load,
> so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error,
> Anaconda 12.47
>
> do you have an idea how to solve it?
>

I don't know what that error is, but AFAIK the minimum amount of RAM
has changed to more than 256MB, so you won't be able to run the
graphical mode.

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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 Marcel Rieux :
> Too many sites were not playing with gnash. So, I tried to install
> flash-plugin.
> First weird thing is that flash-plugin does not show as installed or
> installable in package manager for GNOME.

If you're using 64bit, try the native 64bit plugin. If you're using
32bit, then just add the Adobe flash repo and install.
"http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/07/16/flash-fedora/";

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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Marcel Rieux :
>
> Yeees... But have you seen the description for Gsretamer's bad plugins?
>

Sure, it's bad and crappy, but at least it's open source :-)

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Re: mac usb drive problem with F11

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Dave Stevens :
> I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus filesystem
> on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in the drive I see
> no new data, just what was already there. Any suggestions?
>

Does Linux have write support for hfsplus yet? Or only hfs?

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Re: Any linux-based microSD utilities?

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Max Pyziur :
>
> If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I can.
>

What you want is photorec, part of the testdisk program. It can search
your devices on the block level and recover data.

Afterwards, you can re-format it with VFAT as it's most likely a file
allocation table corruption.

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Re: Clean install of Fedora 12 will not bring up login screen after upgrade

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 John Nissley :
>
> Any ideas on what could be causing this?

X.Org is automatically configured now. Have you tried turning off
kernel based modesetting? Edit grub and add "nomodeset" to the kernel
line.

What does the X.Org log say? /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Marcel Rieux :
> youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an
> advantage over using the Abode plug-in...
>

It's free software I guess..

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Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Edward S.P. Leong :
> Dear All,
>
> Happy New Year !
> As the title...
> Would you mind to help ( suggestion ) ?

I use an Areca ARC1220 PCI Express hardware RAID card (inc Intel
IOP333 RAID6 engine) with great success. Their driver is included in
mainstream kernel.

http://www.areca.com.tw/

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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
> If I power down my laptop via the usual KStart->Shutdown means, it can
> take up to 4 restart attempts before it fully boots.
>
> It has no problem launching grub and the kernel selection screen.  That
> it does reliably every time.   After that, there are issues.

Just a wild stab in the dark, but you don't have a USB drive or memory
stick plugged in while trying to boot, do you?

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Re: Tar oddity...

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Roberto Ragusa :
>
> That is really bad.
> If the machine is unreliable, any kind of hard computation (such
> as data compression) will have problems.

I agree. Have you run memtest on it, Dave? It should be in the repo or
already an option from the boot menu. You can download the live CD
from http://www.memtest.org if you prefer.

If your memory passes, it could be faulty/overclocked CPU or
overheating. Check these things too.

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Re: fc12 installer fails with Gigabyte GA-EP45 SATA RAID 1

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Mugdan
Hi Suvayu,

Thanks for that. You are right that it is not true RAID, but it worked
with fc8 and fc11 and I expected it to work with fc12 too. I have looked
briefly at software RAID but did not pursue it. I shall look at it again
when I have a moment but in the mean time, if there is a solution for
the "RAID" controller I have it would be good.

Cheers,
Chris

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 22:28 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:

> On Tuesday 05 January 2010 01:33 PM, Chris Mugdan wrote:
> > I am trying to install fc12 i386 on a PC based on the Gigabyte
> > GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard with SATA RAID. It is an Intel chipset. I am
> > using RAID 1 (mirror).
> 
> I believe the RAID controllers in these boards are not true hardware 
> RAID. They are called fake RAID or BIOS RAID, which is a form of 
> software RAID. Under these circumstances wouldn't it be better if you 
> were to use software RAID built into linux? Try `man mdadm' for more 
> details.
> 
> I believe the only situation these RAID controllers are worth the 
> trouble is when you have a dual boot system where the "other OS" doesn't 
> recognize Linux software RAID *cough M$ cough* .
> 
> > Regards,
> > Chris Mugdan
> >
> 
> HTH
> -- 
> Suvayu
> 
> Open source is the future. It sets us free.
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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/6 Paul W. Frields :
>
> You need to do this with the "Customize selection" option, rather than
> simply turning off the small number of extra capabilities shown on the
> general users screen.  If you leave something selected behind the
> scenes, its dependencies will bring in a lot of non-minimal stuff.
>

Thanks Paul, this appears to be the way forward.

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
>
> Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
> kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ?

If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility
(palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive..

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/6 Tony Nelson :
>
> The output of `free` will tell you.
>

Yep, thanks :-)

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fc12 installer fails with Gigabyte GA-EP45 SATA RAID 1

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Mugdan

I am trying to install fc12 i386 on a PC based on the Gigabyte
GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard with SATA RAID. It is an Intel chipset. I am
using RAID 1 (mirror).I have installed fc8 and fc11 successfully on this
hardware, but with fc12 on various attempts I either get that the
installer does not recognise the raid array or, when it did attempt to
install, it took an inordinate time to install the packages then, once
the system was installed and running, the file system froze during the
transfer of a large set of files.

Has anyone else experienced these problems with this hardware (or
similar) and if so, do they have a remedy? Or do I just have to wait for
a new Fedora release?

I would go back to fc11 but it has all sorts of problems with monitor
settings - at least with my monitor. So I am back on fc8 in the interim.

Regards,
Chris Mugdan

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fc12 installer fails with Gigabyte GA-EP45 SATA RAID 1

2010-01-05 Thread Chris Mugdan
I am trying to install fc12 i386 on a PC based on the Gigabyte
GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard with SATA RAID. It is an Intel chipset. I am
using RAID 1 (mirror).I have installed fc8 and fc11 successfully on this
hardware, but with fc12 on various attempts I either get that the
installer does not recognise the raid array or, when it did attempt to
install, it took an inordinate time to install the packages then, once
the system was installed and running, thefile systems froze during the
transfer of a large set of files.

Has anyone else experienced these problems with this hardware (or
similar) and if so, do they have a remedy? Or do I just have to wait for
a new Fedora release?

I would go back to fc11 but it has all sorts of problems with monitor
settings - at least with my monitor. So I am back on fc8 in the interim.

Regards,
Chris Mugdan

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 Suvayu Ali :
>
> I just tried this myself on a VM, all you need to do is uncheck those
> package groups.

Yep, agreed. Thanks.
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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 Andre Robatino :
>
> The minimum RAM for a GUI install was increased from 192 MB to 384 MB
> for F12.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2009-July/msg00146.html

Oh yes.. I have no idea how much ram that iMac thing has.

Thanks,
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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 Julian Aloofi :
> An easy way to get a minimal system would be to untick *all* groups
> (yes, all, even the Base group) in the DVD image. This will result in a
> very basic system, which still will be bootable.
>

Thank you, this also works (and installs the same 200 packages as
passing "text" to Anaconda) but has the added benefit of having a
graphical installer.

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 suvayu ali :
>
> If you want customised partitioning scheme then text based install is
> not a good idea. I still think trying out the netinstall image would
> be the best bet for the OP.
>

I tested this, but the netinstaller still defaults to installing a
full desktop environment (unless I'm doing something wrong). The
difference is that it connects to online repositories instead of using
a local DVD.

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 Chris Smart :
> 2010/1/5 Andre Robatino :
>> If you do a text-based install (add "text" to the installer's kernel
>> options, or automatic if you have less than the minimum RAM for a GUI
>> install), you'll get an extremely stripped-down installation (less than
>> 200 packages for F11) whether you want it or not - the text-based
>> installer doesn't offer any package choices anymore.
>
> A huh! Bingo. Exactly what I wanted, thanks!
>
> Also explains why the PPC machine did a text only install - it
> couldn't start the graphical installer.

I have updated the "Anaconda Boot Options" page on the wiki to make
this more clear.

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 Andre Robatino :
> If you do a text-based install (add "text" to the installer's kernel
> options, or automatic if you have less than the minimum RAM for a GUI
> install), you'll get an extremely stripped-down installation (less than
> 200 packages for F11) whether you want it or not - the text-based
> installer doesn't offer any package choices anymore.

A huh! Bingo. Exactly what I wanted, thanks!

Also explains why the PPC machine did a text only install - it
couldn't start the graphical installer.

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/5 Patrick O'Callaghan :
>
> What do you mean by minimal?

A basic command line system to use as a base to then make the system
whatever I like, with only the apps I want. A base install could be a
server, or turned into a desktop with a basic graphical interface
without all the usual apps.

Thanks for other answers, in-line with what I thought.

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Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Smart
Hi all, what's the best way to get a minimal Fedora system?

I assume it's by installing via the DVD and un-ticking package groups,
leaving just the base apps, but perhaps more seasoned Fedora users
have a better suggestion?

The other day I installed F12 on a PPC machine with the network
installer and it only installed a base system (didn't even give me the
option for a graphical environment) which was neat. Trying to
replicate this on a x86 install however has not been successful.

Ubuntu provides an "Install a command-line system" mode on the
alternate installation media. Does Fedora have something similar? I
didn't see any Anaconda options to do it..

Which brings me to another point, installing KDE instead of GNOME via
the DVD. When you un-tick GNOME and tick KDE, it still leaves all of
the default GNOME applications, which is rather annoying
(understandable though). openSUSE for example, bundles everything with
that one radio button, so un-ticking "GNOME" will not install anything
GNOME related (unless a direct dependency of something else you
install, of course). Is there a similar option in Fedora? Or should
one use the KDE Live CD or manually configure each package?

Thanks.
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Re: control-C and yum update

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell :
>
> I though "control-C" was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was
> wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it.
>

It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a
different queue. You should be able to background yum and kill it
straight away:

Ctrl+z
kill %1

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 Mail Lists :
>
>  Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot
> in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the
> partition.

Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was
assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was
re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that
could well be it.

My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That
doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written
properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4.

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Rex Dieter :
>
> We (fedora-kde sig) would be more interested in this if there were more
> effort to push such integration to mozilla upstream.  As far as I'm aware,
> there is very little to date.  (ie, I personally wouldn't be too interested
> in trying to maintain something like this that doesn't have good/broad
> support by mozilla developers too).

FYI, although there's nothing to report yet, there is a bug track
entered upstream here:
"https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528510";

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 david walcroft :
> No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh
> install,my trouble starts upon a reboot.

Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps
it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3?

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 david walcroft :
> Hi,
> I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
> situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.

Dying hard drive? Bad installation media?

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/3 Marko Vojinovic :
>
> In principle, this is a good idea. In practice, I'm not sure how well it can
> be done and is it worth the effort. But I welcome the initiative, of course.
>

It has already been done and it was certainly worth the effort.
Download the openSUSE KDE Live CD and see for yourself! :-)

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Tim :
>
> Is there a description of what that actually means?  A page of statuses
> gives no clue, but the name sounds like someone's trying to copy the
> Microsoft lunacy of integrating MSIE into the desktop.
>

Firefox is GTK based which means it integrates into the GNOME/other
GTK based environments nicely. It does not integrate nicely with Qt
based desktops such as KDE, however.

This hack makes Firefox use Qt based components rather than GTK for
things like buttons, dialogs, etc, so that it is much more integrated
into KDE. Saving a page, for example, brings up the usual KDE file
manager.

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Chris Smart :
>
> I don't quite trust Google enough, but I do think that the browser
> holds a lot of promise. Google also has the brand name to take massive
> market share, so it will be interesting.

Just downloaded and installed 4.0 beta of the Iron port which looks
like it uses GTK to me..?

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Mail Lists :
>
>  Actually chrome is way faster, more secure and takes way way less
> memory - I suspect firefox usage will slowly tail off much like netscape
> did in the past - as chrome takes over .. it is so so much better ...
> even in its beta form.

Maybe so, but there are some major issues there. Firstly, I doubt that
Firefox will stop innovating and not be just playing catch up
(please!).

More importantly is that Chromium doesn't (and won't any time soon)
ship with Fedora
"http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html";

Finally, I think it would be remiss of Fedora to ship Chrome as a
default browser, given privacy concerns.

>
>  I'd focus your energies there were I you ...

I don't quite trust Google enough, but I do think that the browser
holds a lot of promise. Google also has the brand name to take massive
market share, so it will be interesting.

In the mean time, we need something which works well enough on KDE,
and the openSUSE port does that right now. As an aside, does Chromium
use KDE components for everything?

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Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/2 Rex Dieter :
>
> We (fedora-kde sig) would be more interested in this if there were more
> effort to push such integration to mozilla upstream.  As far as I'm aware,
> there is very little to date.  (ie, I personally wouldn't be too interested
> in trying to maintain something like this that doesn't have good/broad
> support by mozilla developers too).
>

Yeah, understandable.

I've used it under openSUSE on my Mum's machine and I have to say that
it's most pleasant to use. All of the menus and dialogs, settings, etc
use KDE components, it's very nice.

A decent, well integrated Qt browser is still a major missing
component of KDE and doesn't appear to be coming any time soon. Most
users like Firefox and this seems a good compromise.

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Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Tyler
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 19:47 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Somewhat OT: IMHO one thing that makes installing Fedora harder than it
> needs to be for the majority of users is the default use of LVM. I've
> been using Fedora since before it was Fedora, and have *never* had a
> situation in which LVM was any use to me. I understand the benefits it
> brings to large installations with complex and varying storage
> requirements, but that's not the case for most people and having to deal
> with its highly domain-specific terminology turns it into a mental
> obstacle that would be better avoided.

I thought that both LVM technology and its benefits were widely
understood by now. It has a lot of value even in a single-disk
situation: you can shuffle space between filesystems, migrate data to a
new disk, add space from a new disk to an existing filesystem, and
create a copy-on-write snapshot of a filesystem -- and do most of that
while the system is running. It's saved my bacon more times than I want
to admit.

Rather than remove LVM from the default installation, perhaps we need to
do a better job of explaining what it does and how to use it
effectively.

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Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Smart
Has anyone looked into openSUSE's brilliant integration of Firefox
into KDE4? Is this something that interests the Fedora community?

Status:
"http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration";

Code:
"http://gitorious.org/firefox-kde-opensuse";

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Re: Where did my penguins go? - THAT'S LIFE

2009-12-31 Thread Chris W Tucker

Oh boy... LOL



Global Warming - it's destroying the Penguin's habitats. Ask Al
Gore... he'll back me up.

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Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?

2009-12-30 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 05:08 -0400, Steven Susbauer wrote:
> On Dec 29, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Tim wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:10 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote:
> >> There was a discussion a while back as to how to describe list. The
> >> result is what you see today. The idea 0052b2a6-0010ist
> >> name/description would clarify expectations to everyone arriving here.
> >> In short it says: "this is what the fedora user list is for."
> > 
> > That may well be, but it's the wrong place to put a *description*.  And
> > certainly not where any newcomer is going to see it.
> 
> It's not all that uncommon.
> 
> I've seen more than a few posts to this list that were also posted to:
> 
> Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions 
> 

Mea culpa, I set this field in 2008.

According to Mailman, that is the "Description" field (described as a
"Terse phrase identifying the list"). The actual *name* of the list is
"fedora-list". The name and description appear side-by-side at
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

This change followed a discussion about list quality (among other
things, no one was registered as list-owner at the time, and the
purpose/scope of the list was not clearly defined). We also wanted a
lightweight way to remind people that messages on the lists didn't
necessarily convey the official position of the Project, without doing
something stupid like attaching boilerplate text to the end of each
message.

Suggestions for new text values are welcome -- but you will have to sell
your proposal.

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Re: slow boot for latest fedora kernel 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64

2009-12-28 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/29 Tom Horsley :
>
> I didn't have a problem, but you can see it spew a lot of info
> about what is happening if you remove the "quiet" option
> from the kernel boot line. That might give a clue where it
> is spending time.

Or run bootchart..
http://www.bootchart.org

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Re: Problem with gstreamer

2009-12-28 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/28 Marcel Rieux :
> It's the first time I open Ryththmbox since I upgraded and it seems
> there's a problem. When I click the icon, it doesn't open. In a shell:
>
> (plugin-scanner:2610): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register
> existing type `GstBaseVideoCodec'

I've no idea, but that looks like a problem with that specific plugin
or something. Can you move it out of the way and try again?

Or can you remove all gstreamer packages and re-install them?

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Re: evolution 2.28.2 still can't connect to exchange server 2007

2009-12-28 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/28 L :
>
> Someone suggested that evo 2.28.1 and evo-mapi-0.28.1 may work well.
> Now, I have evo upgraded to 2.28.2, I still can't connect evo to
> exchange server 2007. EVO crashed when I tried to create a evo-mapi
> account (at the step of authentication).
>
> File a bug as #550592
>
> hope some one found  a fix.

I really have no idea, but does it need a specific version of samba4 libs?

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Re: Broadcom BCM4312 not working after updating the kernel

2009-12-25 Thread Chris W Tucker
Happened to me yesterday,
I uninstalled drivers, then reinstalled through yum.
It has worked since.
Cheers,
Chris


On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Jatin K  wrote:

> Dear all
>
> I've recently updated my kernel from *Linux 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 *to
> *Linux  2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64*, after that my wireless Brodcom BCM4312 is
> not working , on old kernel it was working fine ... if I boot into old
> kernel it works fine without any problem
>
> Does anyone faced this problem .   how to solve this issue .. Help is
> appreciated
>
>
> Regards
>
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Re: grub configuration, boot.

2009-12-24 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/24 Dj YB :
>>
> thanks
> I have noticed that the uuids  are the same
> how do you suggest doing what you said, and how do i make grub use this
> idntification
> and uuids?
> YB
>

Boot your normal Fedora, once booted plug in the USB drive.

Scan for and activate all lvm volumes:
su -c "vgscan && vgchange -ay"

Then have a look at what volumes you have. The first VolGroup should
be your internal drive.

You'll need to run something like:
su -c "vgrename VolGroup1 usbdrive"

You can tell grub to boot the USB drive by replacing its GRUB entry
from root=blahblah with root=/dev/mapper/usbdrive-lv_root

Of course, your initramfs also needs to support booting from USB..

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Re: grub configuration, boot.

2009-12-23 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/24 Dj YB :
> the problem using /dev/sdxn is that this sdxn is not constant and not unique
> even on the same computer, if i change the setup of hard-drives all change.

But if you cloned the drives then they will both have the same UUIDs.
Also, you are booting two systems with the same logical volumes. When
you boot, Fedora is going to mount the first one it finds. I suggest
renaming your volume group on your external drive to something else.

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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-23 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/23 Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano :
>
> Well that's not totally true, the data could be in cache (for read) so

That's true.

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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-23 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/23 Pietro "m0nt0" Montorfano :
>
> The umount command does the "sync" so if you run
> "umount /media/My_External_HDD" and then you get back to the shell, you
> are safe to remove the HDD.

My point was to run the sync command and then run the checksum before
unmounting This ensures that the data is written to the disk so that
it can be read off the physical device.

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Re: Unable to use USB Modem Virgin Broadband, Australia

2009-12-22 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/23 Ankit Bhatnagar :
> Hi all, currently using Fedora12 unable to get USB modem detected as modem
> it appears it recognizing as flash drive, make of the USB modem is HUAWEI
> E169, earlier i googled HUAWEI  E22 works but i m nt sure hw to get E169
> work, i am attaching a package which i downloaded online which is for E22
> can i use this for E169, pls advice whts turnaround to this problem..

You might need to fiddle with usb_modeswitch to get it to flip back
from drive to USB modem.

I did something similar on a different device, in case it's helpful:
"http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/05/21/telstra-nextg-working-with-mf626-usb-modem/";

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Re: deleted the /root/.ssh folder - what should I do for for recovering the keys

2009-12-22 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/22 Mark Ryden :
> Hello,
>  I have a machine on which I deleted the /root/.ssh folder;
>

You might be able to recover them with tools like photorec from the
testdisk package. When you delete something it's not zeroed out, so
unless you write over that part of the disk again the data should be
recoverable.

Failing that, if you have physical access to the box then it shouldn't
be too hard to log in locally and copy over the new keys. If someone
else has root access on the boxes (even via su -) then you could do it
that way too.

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Re: No F-12 Flash -

2009-12-22 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/23 Bob Goodwin :
>
> What is the procedure to install Adobe Flash Player in Fedora 12 [in this
> case installed from the Omega livecd]?

This might help:
"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash#64-bit_alpha";

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How to get 64bit Fedora on 32bit EFI Mac

2009-12-21 Thread Chris Smart
For anyone wanting to install 64bit Fedora on an Apple Mac which has a
32bit EFI (but obviously a 64bit CPU), I have released an updated EFI
loader which supports this:
"http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/12/22/updated-efi-grub2-tarball-including-64bit/";

This also allows multiple installs of Linux on multiple drives in a Mac Pro:
"http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/12/22/linux-on-mac-pro-with-multiple-drives-for-real-this-time/";

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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-21 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/22 DB :
>
> Ah that gives 2 entirely different 32-digit numbers
>
> on the F11 desktop
> cee716a79cc7af0ee8f5f2613ca50578
>
> and on the F12 laptop
> 802d5ea893af6f936e77b81cf00a45fb
>

Did you run the sync command before you unmounted and unplugged the usb drive?

Also, a stupid question, is the tar too big to fit on the USB device
(which is only 4GB).

Are you overclocking your desktop's CPU?

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Re: formating usb

2009-12-21 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Morisso Buffalo 
>
> how do i format a flash disk in FAT32
>

Some more information might be helpful. What kind of flash disk?

mkfs.vfat is the command to format the device with.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-21 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Marcel Rieux :
>> su -c "fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
>
> Disk /dev/sdb: 4045 MB, 4045930496 bytes
> 120 heads, 55 sectors/track, 1197 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 6600 * 512 = 3379200 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0xX
>
>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sdb1               1        1198     3951100   83  Linux

Right, so your USB stick is partitioned with a single partition.

>> mount |grep sdb
>
> /dev/sdb1 on /media/BK type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit)

So that partition is mounted to /media/BK and it is formatted as ext3.
It looks good to me.

The only other thing I have to say is that when you copy your tarball
to the stick, make sure you run:
sync

and then do a checksum comparison. If they are both the same, then you
can safely unmount it and you shouldn't have any problems on your F12
box. If you do, then something else is going on on that side, perhaps
an overclocked CPU or something.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Marcel Rieux :
>
> Then, I have no idea where the /sdb1 partition comes from. I also have
> a lost and found directory on that drive.

I'm pretty sure that your USB stick currently has a MBR partition
table on it (there's nothing wrong with that).

Can you post this?

su -c "fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
mount |grep sdb

The lost and found directory is because it is formatted ext.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Marcel Rieux :

> You're right, my hasty extrapolations were wrong. But I don't believe
> you can get a Flash drive working that will be listed only as /dev/sdb
> any more than you can have a HD working with only /dev/sda. I have no
> idea about arrays, I'm talking about standard desktops with one drive.

You can.

ch...@localhost ~ $ sudo mkfs.ext2 -L usbstick /dev/sdc
mke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
/dev/sdc is entire device, not just one partition!
Proceed anyway? (y,n) y
[formats away]

ch...@localhost ~ $ ls -l /dev/sdc*
brw-rw. 1 root disk 8, 32 2009-12-21 14:18 /dev/sdc

ch...@localhost ~ $ df -h |grep usb
/dev/sdc  3.8G  7.7M  3.6G   1% /media/usbstick

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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 DB 

> Hi Chris,
>
> The original command was
>
> tar cvzf F11_Home_Dave_20091217.tar.gz /home/Dave
>
> and the "problem" is that tar tvh F11*gz lists all the files on the F11
> desktop, but when the external HDD is transferred to the F12 laptop, tar
> tvh  (and ark) give the errors quoted...
>


Make sure that you are "safely removing" your drive before you unplug it.

Copy the file, run the "sync" command and then unmount. Make sure that it is
definitely unmounted before you unplug it. It could be that you are removing
it before it has *actually* synchronises the data.

I agree with the checksum suggestions below and I'm sure they will show a
difference. If so, try the above. Copy, run sync, run checksum.

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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-20 Thread Chris
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:45:13 +0100
Roberto Ragusa  wrote:

> DB wrote:
> > The reason I went with  tar tvh was (to try) to check the contents
> > of the file after "open with ark" in Dollphin spat out the errors.
> > I guess that actually trying to extract the files when the table of
> > contents fails would not be any more successful?
> 
> Run
> 
>   md5sum F11_Home_Dave_20091217.tar.gz
> 
> on both machines.
> If you get two different results, something bad is happening.
> 

I agree with the above! I take it one step beyond that. During my
nightly backups, I have it create the hash for all my tarballs. 
Pretty simple to do. As an example:

if you have backup /home/you, /etc and /root to tarballs:

home.you.tar.gz
etc.tar.gz
root.tar.gz

Doing something like md5sum *.gz > checksum.md5 will create and store
the hash info in the file, checksum.md5

Then to verify, md5sum -c checksum.md5
If all goes well,  you'll see something like:

home.you.tar.gz OK
etc.tar.gz OK
root.tar.gz OK

Of course, you probably knew all this anyways.

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Re: No snd-hda-intel

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Jim :
> FC12/KDE
>
> Intel sound 82801H, All the setting in PulseAudio is up to Max.
>
> I have a fresh FC12 install with no Sound, and I have attached LSMOD and
> Sound from /var/log/messages

Although it might sound stupid, firstly make sure that mute is off. Try:

amixer set Master unmute

Secondly, the log shows that the kernel doesn't know what model you
have and it might not be loading the correct codec. You might need to
specify which one to use at boot or in modules conf.

"Dec 20 17:14:35 localhost kernel: hda_codec: Unknown model for
ALC888, trying auto-probe from BIOS..."

There is a list of models in the kernel headers, AFAIK, but this might help:
"http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845";

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Chris Smart :
>
> That's because you are trying to check the file system on the device,
> not the partition. Robert Nichols already pointed out that you need to
> be running that against /dev/sdb1 (where "1" is the first primary
> partition).
>

P.S. You might want to start the process again if you formatted /dev/sdb, too.

If fdisk is too complicated, you can achieve the same result with
parted (replace '/dev/sdX' with your CORRECT device, i.e. /dev/sdb):

su -c 'parted /dev/sdX mklabel msdos'
su -c 'parted /dev/sdX mkpartfs primary ext2 0% 100%'

This will prompt to confirm the actions, if you don't want it to
prompt, pass the "-s" (script) option after the "parted" command.

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Re: 8 GB Flash drive formatted at 3.7 GB

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 Marcel Rieux :
>
> But, as I said. I still have this problem:
>
> e2fsck -c /dev/sdb
> e2fsck 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
> e2fsck: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
> e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb
>

That's because you are trying to check the file system on the device,
not the partition. Robert Nichols already pointed out that you need to
be running that against /dev/sdb1 (where "1" is the first primary
partition).

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Re: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora.

2009-12-20 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/21 sandeep Patel :

> I tried this.But still it is showing error.Please help me someone.what the
> hell is going on fedora 12.
> Already thanks.

Can you please post the exact line that you typed into your yum.conf?

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Re: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora.

2009-12-19 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/20 sandeep Patel :
>
> Hi Everybody,
>  I have installed Fedora 12 x86_64.And I tried to update
> it.But I found this error:
>  Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
> fedora.
>

Hi Sandeep,
Do you have a connection to the Internet on that specific box? If so,
are you behind a proxy?

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Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-18 Thread Chris
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:47:26 +0100
DB  wrote:

> On 12/18/2009 01:23 PM, fedora-list-requ...@redhat.com wrote:
> > Subject:
> > Re: Tar oddity...
> > From:
> > Ralf Corsepius 
> > Date:
> > Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:28:09 +0100
> >
> > To:
> > "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> > 
> >
> >
> > On 12/17/2009 11:51 PM, DB wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I've just (re)installed F12 on my laptop, & tried to copy my home
> >> directory (F11) from my desktop using tar.
> >>
> >> The create went OK, & I can do tar tvh on the desktop no probs.
> >> But when I connect the external drive to the laptop, tar tvh says
> >> it's closing because of previous errors; ark refuses to open
> >> the .tar.gz file as it has errors.
> >
> > Please show us the actual error message. You are not providing 
> > sufficient details to be able to help.
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> Hi Ralf,
> 
> ark puts up a dialog box
> reading the archive ".tar.gz"
> failed with the error
> 'The archive reading failed with message: Damaged tar archive'
> 
> and tar tvf reads 45 entries and then
> 
>  tar: skipping to next header
>  tar: exiting with failure status due to previous errors
> 
> but doesn't say what previous errors!
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dave
> 

Why not use tar -zxvf xxx.tar.gz unless, its just xxx.tar, then it
would be tar -xvf xxx.tar

Otherwise, perhaps your archive never finished correctly or is
corrupt. it would be interesting to see the command you used to
create the archive.

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Re: Modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686/modules.dep

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/18 Jim :
> FC12/KDE fresh install.
>
> Modprobe: Fatal: Could not load
> /lib/modules/2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686/modules.dep
> No such file or directoy
>
> I googled this, it's all over google, everyone is making a lot of guesses
> but no fixes.

Hi Jim,

If you're booted to that kernel, try:

su -c "depmod -ae"

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Re: physical RAM restriction in Fedora 12 (32 bit and 64 bit)

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Roberto Ragusa  said:
> And the PAE kernel will be installed by default.
> So the 32 bit Fedora could be considered without limit too.

IIRC, the practical limit with PAE is something like 8G or 16G RAM.
With more, you end up using all the low RAM for page tables and can't
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Script for configuring ClamAV server

2009-12-16 Thread Chris Smart
Hi all,

I'm not sure if something like this already exists or if there's a
sanctioned way to do it, but I've written a script to configure
instances of clamav-server on Fedora 12.

AFAIK the current process is manual, with configuration files (and the
instructions on what to do) sitting under
/usr/share/doc/clamav-server-[version]/. I've just taken those and
written a script to automate it.

The script can create or remove an instance of clamd for a specific
user on a specific port (if specified, else it defaults to user
"clamav" on port "3310") and will automatically install required
packages if necessary.

Anyway in case of use to anyone else, it's available on github:
"http://github.com/csmart/naa/blob/master/configure-clamd.sh";

If you have any comments, please feel free to let me know. An entry
about it is on my blog is here:
"http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/12/17/script-for-configuring-clamav-server-on-fedora/";

Cheers,
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Re: SMS client for linux?

2009-12-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, L  said:
> I have a vodafone wireless broadband dongle. This prepaid package
> comes with 15 free SMS. NM on F12 is great to connect it. my question
> is that, is there a tool to send/receive  SMS on linux? The vodafone
> connect kit for windows includes a SMS client to send and receive SMS.
> I don't want waste 15 SMS, Could any one know an equivalent tool for
> linux?

Gnokii is a cell phone tool that can send and receive SMS, if your cell
interface presents a serial port to Linux (my phone for example presents
two).  It takes a little bit of configuration in /etc/gnokiirc but works
okay.

I use the gnokii-smsd daemon to send text messages from other programs
(like Nagios).
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Re: Request for Input on Creating Linux Courses...

2009-12-12 Thread Chris Byrd
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Michael D. Setzer II
 wrote:
>
> The Ideal is to over a beginning Linux course, and an second level course as
> a start. In the networking class, I have one 4 hour section where the students
> go thru the installation of various Linux OS's,  and they can use the Fedora,
> but many students still stay with windows.
>
> Was wondering if people on the list might have some knowledge of material
> that would best meet the needs of a community college program.
>

What exactly are "the needs of a community college program", exactly
what would be the focus of each of the two classes?

Assuming that the first class is an introduction of Linux usage (as
opposed to programming tools/concepts, internals/architecture etc), I
think there should at least be some discussion of the similarities and
differences of  Linux as related to other OS'es the students will be
familiar with i.e. OS X and Windows.  A survey of popular Linux
applications in various domains i.e. Media players, Web Browsers, Mail
clients, Office software would help.  I also think that an
introduction to certain mailing lists/forums/IRC chats is called for
as these will likely be the first step in support for a new Linux
user.

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OT: Not important but...

2009-12-10 Thread Chris
Greetings once again,

I'm just gitty as all hell (or a little school-girl) now that all is
fixed and now running the 2nd kernel upgrade w/out issues.

Off topic, but I'm one satisfied Fedora-Munkie.

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Re: Booting sparkly new F12 install, error 13 from grub.

2009-12-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tom H  said:
> >>Well, according to the files present on /dev/sdb1, grub is installed.  I
> >>tried the chainloader+1, didn't work, now I'm about to reboot and try the
> >> map syntax to swap the bios drive orders.
> 
> > And that didn't work either. :(
> 
> As I said in my earlier email, grub1 will not boot from an ext4 /boot.

Incorrect, if it is GRUB from F12.

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Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell

2009-12-09 Thread Chris
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:30:02 -0500
Sam Varshavchik  wrote:

> Chris writes:
> 
> > On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:06:12 -0500
> > Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
> > 
> >> Some time ago, in F9-F10 era, there was a consecutive series of
> >> about four kernels that were released that could not boot on one
> >> of my machines. Somehow, I managed to survive this traumatic
> >> experience without installing a completely different distribution.
> >> I waved a magic wand, and continued to boot the last working
> >> kernel, until a new one came out that worked on my hardware once
> >> more.
> > 
> > I agree - quoting from Louis Lagendijk;
> > 
> > "The best way to avoid the problem might be to get grub to display
> > the list of installed (assuming that the original F12 kernel worked
> > for you) and select that kernel to boot from. Change the default
> > line in /etc/grub.conf to automate that."
> 
> It just occured to me that there may be a large number of people who
> are completely unaware of the fact that they can easily boot a
> previous kernel.
> 
> Some time ago, someone decided to set up grub by default to hide its
> boot menu, so that it boots without delay. As such, some people may
> not even know about this option.
> 
> This is a perfect example of why hiding some complexity from the end
> user is not always a good idea.
> 

Thanks for the suggestions to all that helped me out. I am now past the
kernel/reboot issue.

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Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell

2009-12-07 Thread Chris
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:06:12 -0500
Sam Varshavchik  wrote:

> Chris writes:
> 
> > After running 12 for some weeks now, I allowed yum to install the
> > newest kernel (well, as of Friday of course). 
> > 
> > all seemed to go just fine until I rebooted.  All the machine will
> > do is continue to reboot itself over and over again. 
> > 
> > I reinstalled and applied only updates other then 3 that were
> > particular to the new kernel and all went well there. Rebooted just
> > fine.
> > 
> > I thought - why not try the remaining 3 and lets see if for some
> > reason the others might be causing this effect.
> > 
> > That didn't seem to help - again, after allowing yum to install the
> > new kernel, it sent the machine into reboot hell.
> > 
> > The box is only a few years (3) old, it's a Sony Vaio desktop. It's
> > running sata, there is a /boot part of some 200 meg (only 23% full)
> > and the rest of the 400 gig drive is LVM
> > 
> > Currently, I tossed on Ubuntu just so I can get some work done
> > however, would really prefer to be back running F12.
> > 
> > Any help/ideas would be great.
> 
> Some time ago, in F9-F10 era, there was a consecutive series of about
> four kernels that were released that could not boot on one of my
> machines. Somehow, I managed to survive this traumatic experience
> without installing a completely different distribution. I waved a
> magic wand, and continued to boot the last working kernel, until a
> new one came out that worked on my hardware once more.
> 
> 

I agree - quoting from Louis Lagendijk;

"The best way to avoid the problem might be to get grub to display the
list of installed (assuming that the original F12 kernel worked for you)
and select that kernel to boot from. Change the default line
in /etc/grub.conf to automate that."

This seems to be the appropriate way for me to have handled it. Putting
on another distro worked for me at the time. My home dir and data are
on another sata drive so using a previously cloned image from
Clonezilla got me up and running in under 10 mins when I needed to get
some things done. Not meant to be long termed - but was a solution that
I knew at the time.

Fortunately (for me) I have a cloned-image of F12 from earlier in the
week I'll put back on and use the above mentioned work around in
addition to what you have said.

I too recall the issues of F9/F10 (I touched on that with Louis in a
private mail). In any event... Time to eat.

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Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell

2009-12-07 Thread Chris

>-Original Message-
>From: Marc Wilson [mailto:m...@cox.net]
>Sent: Monday, December 7, 2009 01:37 PM
>To: 'Community assistance, encouragement,  and advice for using Fedora.'
>Subject: Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell
>
>On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Chris  wrote:
>
>> Currently, I tossed on Ubuntu just so I can get some work done however, 
>> would really prefer to be back running F12.
>
>Other than that it let you make a snarky Ubuntu remark, why would you
>need to replace F12 "just so that you can get some work done"?  It
>would seem obvious that all you have to do is not perform the latest
>upgrade until whatever happened to it gets fixed.
>
>Oh, wait... that would't let you version-chase.  After all, apparently
>software with lower version numbers magically ceases to work.
>
>There, that's MY snarky remark.
>
>Gods, people, if you want to use Ubuntu, go use Ubuntu already... no
>need to tell everyone about it.

*IF* I really wanted to make a "snarky" remark I would have inserted something 
more appropriate like windows however, I thought my question was certainly 
genuine enough. 

As I did mention in the post - I did exactly that, I updated all but the kernel 
stuff (second time around) and mentioned that all worked well. Then,  simply 
stated that the newest kernel seems to have caused a break (in my system at 
least) and felt I might say something to see if anyone else had the same 
experience, and if they did - how did they rectify it.

I apologize to you, Marc, if me question infuriated you to the point to get 
upset. I have to believe that others didn't see it the same fashion as you.

Regards, 
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Latest Kernel causes reboot hell

2009-12-07 Thread Chris
After running 12 for some weeks now, I allowed yum to install the newest kernel 
(well, as of Friday of course). 

all seemed to go just fine until I rebooted.  All the machine will do is 
continue to reboot itself over and over again. 

I reinstalled and applied only updates other then 3 that were particular to the 
new kernel and all went well there. Rebooted just fine.

I thought - why not try the remaining 3 and lets see if for some reason the 
others might be causing this effect.

That didn't seem to help - again, after allowing yum to install the new kernel, 
it sent the machine into reboot hell.

The box is only a few years (3) old, it's a Sony Vaio desktop. It's running 
sata, there is a /boot part of some 200 meg (only 23% full) and the rest of the 
400 gig drive is LVM

Currently, I tossed on Ubuntu just so I can get some work done however, would 
really prefer to be back running F12.

Any help/ideas would be great.

TIA

Chris


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Re: To hyper-thread or not to hyper-thread

2009-12-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Greg Woods  said:
> One feature in particular that is not present twice is some of the
> caching. This is sort of why they named it "hyperthreading". If you can
> get multiple threads of the same process, sharing the same memory, to
> run simultaneously, there is a performance boost. But if you try to run
> two completely different processes simultaneously, there will actually
> be a performance LOSS because of all the cache misses this will cause.

I believe that the Linux kernel scheduler takes all of this into
account.  You are better off enabling HT (and letting the kernel worry
about taking advantage of it) than disabling it.

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F12 Upgrade: Rebooting Over, and over, and....

2009-12-04 Thread Chris
As the topic says, I updated last night and this morning I rebooted (new 
kernel) and all my box does is go off into reboot oblivion.

Any help would be appreciated. Else, a reinstall from media tonight and 
possibly NOT install the new kernel?

On another not - The tip on not using 3rd part sources (for the Flash install 
of F12/64). While I knew this already, still worth mentioning!

Thank all for your help thus far.


Regards, 

Chris

No sig due to rebooting box - Wh!


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Flash for my new F12/64 install

2009-12-03 Thread Chris
Greetings again,

Would appreciate some advice on installing Flash for Firefox.

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Re: Terminator (Gnome)

2009-12-03 Thread Chris
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:11:17 +0100
Michael Schwendt  wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:58:49 -0600, Chris wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I love the above mentioned app - and in older versions I used to
> > use, it never displayed a pop-up when ya close it.
> > 
> > It just simply displays a black rectangle in the upper right hand
> > corner of your screen with the unforgettable blurb, "I'll be back".
> 
> That's a GNOME desktop notification. In this case printed by
> /usr/bin/terminator via pynotify -> notification-daemon.
> 
> Run   notify-send "I'll be back"   to produce a similar message.
> 
> > Anyways, without recompiling from source, has anyone found a way to
> > turn this off? I have not seen it mentioned in the Terminator man
> > page nor is it in the terminator_config man page.
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Terminator is written in Python. No need to recompile. You could
> simply modify /usr/bin/terminator where you'll find the message at
> the bottom.
> 

Outstanding! Once again, thanks everyone!

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Re: F12 32-bit Repos & F12 64-bit Repos: Equal Amount of Apps?

2009-12-02 Thread Chris
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:26:09 -0600
Bruno Wolff III  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 22:11:26 -0600,
>   Chris  wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I am currently back to using Fedora (and very happy I might add) and
> > running 12/32.  Would it be a safe statement to say that a large
> > portion (better then 80%) of the apps in the 12/32 repos will also
> > be available in the 12/64 repos?
> > 
> > Of course, I would sacrifice the ability to use my 64 bit system to
> > ensure I have all the apps that I currently use under 32 bit.
> 
> wine is 32 bit. (Though that is changing.) But you can still install
> it
> 
> If you use proprietary browser plugins or do development where you
> build 32 bit apps or libraries, you will need the 32 bit versions of
> some things installed in addition to the 64 bit versions.
> 
> You should be able to get pretty much anything that works on a 32 bit
> x86 system to work on a 64 bit x86 system.
> 

Thanks Bruno. 
I sorta thought that to begin with (with reservations of course). I
wanted a tab of feedback before I wipe my 32-bit install in favor of
64.

Thanks for the replies.

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Re: Wine

2009-12-02 Thread Chris
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:55:21 -0800 (PST)
"Hector E. Celis"  wrote:

> How in the hell do I install DVD43 using wine.
> Same question for ICOPYDVDS2
> And how do I install LimeWire
> 
> If we can't copy DVDs for personal use, can't use limewire , then
> FEDORA is GARBAGE useless to normal users. So Fix this NOW (I AM SICK
> OF WINDOWS) Some one pick up the challenge we can't all just sit with
> our finger up our ass waiting for some one else. I would but I am
> just a beginner.
> 
> Thanks
> Hector Celis
> 

Settle down there, munkie-boi. Windows was and is created for users
just like you. Know your limits, pick the tools you are familiar with
and be happy.

Perhaps Fedora isn't for you. Perhaps you ought to consider a distro of
Linux with the type of user you are, in mind.

Ubuntu comes to mind. Otherwise, with the attitude like yours (I'll
give you the benefit of the doubt and just consider you a frustrated
Windows user for now) you'll not likely get much help.

And lastly, some advice... Google comes to mind.

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F12 32-bit Repos & F12 64-bit Repos: Equal Amount of Apps?

2009-12-02 Thread Chris
Greetings,

I am currently back to using Fedora (and very happy I might add) and
running 12/32.  Would it be a safe statement to say that a large
portion (better then 80%) of the apps in the 12/32 repos will also be
available in the 12/64 repos?

Of course, I would sacrifice the ability to use my 64 bit system to
ensure I have all the apps that I currently use under 32 bit.

TIA

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Terminator (Gnome)

2009-12-02 Thread Chris
Greetings,

I love the above mentioned app - and in older versions I used to use,
it never displayed a pop-up when ya close it.

It just simply displays a black rectangle in the upper right hand
corner of your screen with the unforgettable blurb, "I'll be back".

Anyways, without recompiling from source, has anyone found a way to
turn this off? I have not seen it mentioned in the Terminator man page
nor is it in the terminator_config man page.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: After doing a yum update I notice these (W)arnings

2009-12-01 Thread Chris
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:08:35 -0500
Sam Varshavchik  wrote:

> Chris writes:
> 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > After doing a yum update I notice these (W)arnings?
> > 
> > ** Snip **
> > Updating : abrt-gui-1.0.0-1.fc12.i686 35/79 
> > Updating : coreutils-7.6-7.fc12.i686 36/79 
> > Installing : kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 37/79 
> > W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
> > W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko
> > 
> > Is this something I need to be concerned about?
> 
> Only if you have either the "QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver" or the 
> "Adaptec aic94xx SAS/SATA" driver in your server.
> 
> Unless you're using these two, this has no impact. And if you did
> have one of these, it wouldn't already be working for you, since you
> still don't have the requisite firmware to load, even with your
> existing kernel.

Thanks Sam. I appreciate it. I assumed the same but wanted to get
feedback.


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After doing a yum update I notice these (W)arnings

2009-12-01 Thread Chris
Greetings,

After doing a yum update I notice these (W)arnings?

** Snip **
Updating : abrt-gui-1.0.0-1.fc12.i686 35/79 
Updating : coreutils-7.6-7.fc12.i686 36/79 
Installing : kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 37/79 
W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko
W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko

Is this something I need to be concerned about?

TIA

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Re: Firefox performance with flash

2009-11-30 Thread Chris Tyler
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 22:07 -0800, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote:
> Hi all!!
> 
> I've installed flash plugin from Adobe
> ( flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386), everything work ok, i mean,
> in firefox without the plugin activated, when I surf in a page with
> flash, firefox become extremely slow, and sometime it froze.
> 
> Any idea?

This is a long-standing problem with Flash. If it were open source and
ticked people off this much, it would get fixed.  >:-(  You could try
sending nasty notes to Adobe, but don't hold your breath.

Firefox 3.x on Windows actually contains code (written by one of my
students a couple years ago) to analyze how a plugin is loading the
system. There's an extension which exposes this information through a
user interface: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7055 ...
Unfortunately it's hard to do this under Linux (and Mac) due to a
different execution path for plugins.

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Re: changing GDM background image on F12

2009-11-28 Thread Chris
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:48:50 -0500
fred smith  wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 01:53:14PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> > Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > > Could you explain a little more what you are trying to do?
> > >
> > > If you're just trying to change the wallpaper, what happens when
> > > you just use the standard menu to do that? Or are you trying to do
> > > something more?
> > >
> > > What behavior do you get when you (from memory)
> > >   system->preferences->appearance->background->add->{select a
> > > file} and if by default you mean system wide, the [make default]
> > > button may help
> > 
> > As the subject says, he's trying to change the background for the
> > GDM screen.  Since GDM doesn't provide a panel, there isn't really a
> > convenient way to browse to system->preferences->appearance... :)
> > 
> > Using gconftool-2 is generally the best way to achieve this, and
> > works fine for me on F-12 (as it has in past releases).  Why it's
> > not working for Fred remains to be seen.
> 
> As Todd says, I'd like to change the GDM (login) screen wallpaper. I
> had accidentally stumbled into that in F10, and never really knew how
> I had done it (but liked the image it ended up with so I left it.)
> but then my SSD went bad and when I got it back from repair I
> installed F11 and never pursued this, but now that I've done an
> update to F12 I'd like to change the image again. I thought that
> choosing "make default" in the tool Bill suggests would do it, but it
> doesn't. so I've also tried the command (shown in earlier emails in
> this thread but somehow purged from this one) using gconftool-2 and
> it didn't work either.
> 
> i've put the image in /usr/share/backgrounds/images, but a lot of the
> discussion I've seen of this just say "/usr/share/backgrunds", so is
> it possible that it should not go in any of hte subdirs there? doesn't
> seem to make sense, as I specified the full path to the file when I
> ran gconftool-2.
> 
> 

It's apparent that even after the above is spelled out, users still
can't read. The Op is speaking of the Gnome Login background (GNOME
LOGIN BACKGROUND)... 

NOT the users DESKTOP BACKGROUND. 

Un Effin' believable...

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Re: Amazon MP3 Downloader

2009-11-21 Thread Chris
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:52:46 +0100
ELMORABITY Mohamed  wrote:

> Le samedi 21 novembre 2009 à 14:58 -0600, Chris a écrit : 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > Has anyone gotten this to work under 12?
> > 
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> > 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> it seems that Amazon only provides a RPM for Fedora 9. Even if you try
> to install this on Fedora 12 (not a good thing generally!), this RPM
> will require an older version of boost than the one provides by Fedora
> 12.
> If you want to use this proprietary software under Fedora 12, your
> only choice is to ask Amazon to rebuild this RPM for this version.
> 

So it seems. Agreed as to boost. I read somewhere that an app called
Clamz might be worth considering. Perhaps sometime soon I shall.

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Amazon MP3 Downloader

2009-11-21 Thread Chris
Greetings,

Has anyone gotten this to work under 12?

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Re: Interview with Paul Frields about Fedora 12 and the Fedora community

2009-11-17 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 23:10 -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
> | From: Dave Stevens 
> 
> | Quoting Bruce Byfield :
> | 
> | >In case anyone is interested;
> | >
> | 
> >http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3848891/Building-On-Ramps-
> | >on-the-Fedora-12-Highway.htm
> | 
> | Bruce, you gotta use tinyurl.
> 
> Is there an easy way to see what a tinyurl points to without actually
> going there?  I don't like disguised URLs.


http://tinyurl.com/yaxzs6d  -->  http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaxzs6d

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Gnome Games - Fedora 12

2009-11-17 Thread Chris
Greetings,

Stupid question but, is there another package I need to install to get
all the Gnome games? There seems to be so few of them compared to my
Debian Lenny install.

Just curious.

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