Re: TV over the internet
2010/1/6 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: Bryn M. Reeves wrote: I did wonder if I could use my son, in Cardiff, to re-send the stream over to me in Dublin (or Italy)? Could I do that without using up all his bandwidth? It would be nice if there was a way to start with a UK IP address, and then change to a foreign one? You want something like this http://www.vpnuk.net/ Google for 'UK VPN service'. Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails
Hello, Why can't I mount a dmg (macintosh image) file on Fedora 11 ? I tried mounting several .dmg mac files did not have any success with it. Here is an example: I downloaded Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.5.6os=osxlang=en-US running: file Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg gives: Firefox 3.5.6.dmg: bzip2 compressed data, block size = 900k Running mount -t hfs -o loop Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg /mnt/mac/ and: mount -t hfsplus -o loop Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg /mnt/mac/ gives (in both cases) mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so end in the kernel sys log I see: can't find a HFS filesystem on dev loop0. unable to find HFS+ superblock Any ideas? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails
Hello, Thanks ! tried using this tool, and running this: ./dmgx.sh Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg firefox iso got ... No errors reported. and firefox iso was created but file firefox iso gives firefox.iso: data and mount -t iso9660 -o loop firefox.iso /mnt/test/ gives: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so Rgs, Mark On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, Mark Ryden markr...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Why can't I mount a dmg (macintosh image) file on Fedora 11 ? I tried mounting several .dmg mac files did not have any success with it. maybe [1] is the way to go? I stumbled upon it while searching for a way to 'unzip' firmware updates for this other platform. But I haven't tested it yet. Feedback is welcome ;). Regards hmw [1] http://hem.bredband.net/catacombae/dmgx.html -- biff4emacsen - A biff-like tool for (X)Emacs http://www.c0t0d0s0.de/biff4emacsen/biff4emacsen.html Flood - Your friendly network packet generator http://www.c0t0d0s0.de/flood/flood.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
deleted the /root/.ssh folder - what should I do for for recovering the keys
Hello, I have a machine on which I deleted the /root/.ssh folder; now , I generated in the past a key file , with ssh-keygen -t rsa I pasted the contents of the public key file into some servers (authorized_keys2), so I can ssh to them without being prompted for a password. Now, I cannot ssh to these mecahines. Is there anyway I can recover the old keys I had ? Running ssh-keygen -t rsa does not solve the problem unless I **again** paste the nre gernerated key into the new machines. Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Dell 2209WA e-IPS monitor and Fedora
Hello, I am thinking of buying a Dell 2209WA 22'' display and to use it under Fedora. I need this monitor especially for long hours of writing code and reading documents. I do not intend to use it at all for movies/games. This monitor is a bit more expensive than the average; however, it has an e-IPS panel, which is (so I was told) a bit better than the common panels (TN). I would appreciate if anybody who had tried this monitor with Fedora can give any feedback to this post. Especially I am interested in whether he could set the resolution to 1680 x 1050 (which is the maximum resolution for this monitor) and which model of display adapter did he use, and was he satisfied with this monitor. (Especially was the text sharp enough, and would he recommend this display for long hours of text-based usage like programming/reading docs). Rgs, Mark PS (Also I would like to know the output of running : xrandr). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
physical RAM restriction in Fedora 12 (32 bit and 64 bit)
Hello, AFAIK, in windows 7, **32 bit**, there is a limit of 3GB physical RAM which can be recognized by the operating system. This means that if you have 4GB of RAM, only 3 will be used. My question is: 1) In Fedora 12 32 bit default installation , does the kernel knows more than 3 GB of RAM ? what is the limit ? 2) In Fedora 12 64 bit default installation , does the kernel knows more than 3 GB of RAM ? what is the limit ? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Writn a slash in Evolution
At 14:00 on 10 Dec 2009, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Joerg Bergmann em...@jbergmann.de wrote: I have 2.26.3. Under the Format menu, I may select between two radio-buttons: HTML and simple text (Einfacher Text in german). No shortcut at all. Very strange. Maybe there's a way to select radio-buttons that would disable shortcuts? I don't have to check now but that would be very strange. Evolution obeys the GTK standard method of assigning shortcuts to menu items. You have probably assigned / to this menu item inadvertently at some point. To remove it, just press Backspace whilst the menu item is highlighted. -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Across Lite for F12 32-bit, an i686 vs i386 issue?
At 10:07 on 01 Dec 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I don't have access to any interesting newspaper crosswords on paper, as I live outside the distribution area of the English-language press. In any case, some NYT clues are impossible without encyclopedic knowledge of American sports teams and personalities, so Google is a requirement in extremis. FYI, the Guardian crosswords are free online in a Java applet. http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a VPN with network connection wizard
Hello, Thanks a lot for your answer! I wonder : is there a way to achieve this without starting the Network Mnager ?! Rgs, Mark On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Brian Mury brianm...@alumni.uvic.ca wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:46 +0200, Mark Ryden wrote: I try to connect to a VPN using the network connection wizard of Feodra 12. (System-Preference-Network Connections). I select the VPN tab. I press Add and choose PPTP. I enter what is needed and created a VPN connection named VPN1. I press apply when finished and everything is OK. The dialog is closed. Now how can I activate this VPN connection ? Are you using NetworkManager, and if so do you have the NetworkManager applet on your toolbar? If so, click on the applet, and under the VPN Connections menu, click on VPN1. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Creating a VPN with network connection wizard
Hello, I try to connect to a VPN using the network connection wizard of Feodra 12. (System-Preference-Network Connections). I select the VPN tab. I press Add and choose PPTP. I enter what is needed and created a VPN connection named VPN1. I press apply when finished and everything is OK. The dialog is closed. Now how can I activate this VPN connection ? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
take me off list
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Re: VPN server in Fedora
Itamar, First, thanks for your (really rapid) response. I know about openvpn project. The question is why there are no rpms of pptpd in recent fedora releases (like 9,10,11)? is it because that the openvpn solution is better than the pptpd solution? Regards, Mark On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote: you can use openvpn On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Mark Ryden markr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, - I found out that there are two common ways to run a VPN server on Linux. One way is using ipsec, with projects like openswan/strongswan. The other is running pptpd server; this implements a Virtual Private Networking Server (VPN) that iscompatible with Microsoft VPN clients, and allows windows users to connect to an internal firewalled network using their dialup. See http://poptop.sourceforge.net/. When looking for rpms for Fedora 11 or Fedora 10, I found out that there is no pptpd (yum install pptpd results in No package pptpd available. Nothing to do). There is however, openswan rpm for fedora 10 or 11. My question is: what is the reason that there is no pptp rpm packages for newer Fedora distros ? is some other solution replaces it ? is there a better Linux VPN server solution which enables Microsoft VPN clients to connect to a Linux VPN server ? Regards, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn/google talk/sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: man 3 switch
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: There is even no man 3 switch on RHEL4. When was the last time you For what it's worth ... there is no man 3 switch on NetBSD. I can check AIX on Monday and report on that, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: odd file requires
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:58 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: Hey folks, I put together this list for things I'd like to work on for f13. It's a list of packages with a file-requires that falls outside of *bin/* and /etc/* and then the provider(s) for those files. http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/non-primary-file-reqs-and-what-requires-them.txt I've gone through some of them and I'm looking for where we can clean up a few more. Take a look through, see if you see a package you're responsible for and, if you can, figure out a way to not need the file-requires. this helps our users b/c if we don't need to get the filelists to resolve the dependency then they don't use up the bandwidth. The qemu/gpxe-roms-qemu ones were added because we were moving a file from gpxe-roms to gpxe-roms-qemu. Leaving it as a package requires means hard-coding knowledge in qemu about which version of gpxe-roms-qemu provides which roms. IMHO, the file requires makes more sense. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Mobile Braodband (GSM) on fc9 i686 laptop
Consulting IT Project/Program Management: on-time, on-budget .. Original Message ... On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:07:14 -0600 Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: Gregory P. Ennis wrote: Dear List, I just received a gift from my wife of a Verizon mobile broadband (GSM) usb modem. Unfortunately all of the documentation is for the inferior MS platform. I have plugged it into my usb port and nm-tool recognizes it as : Device ttyACM0- Type : Mobile Broadband (GSM) Driver : cdc_acm State : disconnected Default: no I have tried calling Verizon about connecting to Linux, but have only waded through the first layer of responders that were not aware of Linux. Have any of you used these with Fedora? Can you point me in the direction of a how to or is there an easy switch to toggle. I tether my Verizon Blackberry Storm (hereafter called BB) to my laptop (F11) on occasion to use it as a wireless modem. You need to jump through some hoops (e.g. barry and XmBlackberry) to get it to set up the modem for use, but it works. What follows is what I do on the BB. You first have to dial #777 (at least on the BB). Once that's done, the trick is knowing what your username and password are. Your user name is your cell number (area code and number without the leading 1, @vzw3g.com (probably...at least mine is). The password is your phone number (again, without the leading 1. Example: Username: 8885551...@vzw3g.com Password: 8885551234 So, my /etc/chatscripts/blackberry file looks like: ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED ABORT ERROR SAY Initializing\n '' ATZ OK-AT-OK ATDT#777 CONNECT \d\c That script is called via the /etc/ppp/peers/blackberry script: debug debug debug nodetach # NOTE: This may change depending on which device XmBlackberry # sets up as the serial port for the modem... /dev/pts/7 115200 connect /usr/sbin/chat -f /etc/chatscripts/blackberry nomultilink defaultroute noipdefault ipcp-restart 7 ipcp-accept-local ipcp-accept-remote # added this, so that it doesn't disconnect after few mn of innactivity lcp-echo-interval 0 lcp-echo-failure 999 modem noauth nocrtscts noipdefault novj # refused anyway, no point in trying every time usepeerdns user 8885551...@vzw3g.com password 8885551234 I hope that helps. And yes, it was a right bitch to figure all that out. Google can be your friend, but you have to interpolate some of the data. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - Rick, Thanks much for the information. I'll let you know how it goes Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I've used a Verizon USB broadband modem. I'll post my config file shortly (getting on a train as I type this). -- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- (From my Treo 700p) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mobile Braodband (GSM) on fc9 i686 laptop
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 15:11 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: Mark C. Allman wrote: Consulting IT Project/Program Management: on-time, on-budget .. Original Message ... On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:07:14 -0600 Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote: Gregory P. Ennis wrote: Dear List, I just received a gift from my wife of a Verizon mobile broadband (GSM) usb modem. Unfortunately all of the documentation is for the inferior MS platform. I have plugged it into my usb port and nm-tool recognizes it as : Device ttyACM0- Type : Mobile Broadband (GSM) Driver : cdc_acm State : disconnected Default: no I have tried calling Verizon about connecting to Linux, but have only waded through the first layer of responders that were not aware of Linux. Have any of you used these with Fedora? Can you point me in the direction of a how to or is there an easy switch to toggle. I tether my Verizon Blackberry Storm (hereafter called BB) to my laptop (F11) on occasion to use it as a wireless modem. You need to jump through some hoops (e.g. barry and XmBlackberry) to get it to set up the modem for use, but it works. What follows is what I do on the BB. You first have to dial #777 (at least on the BB). Once that's done, the trick is knowing what your username and password are. Your user name is your cell number (area code and number without the leading 1, @vzw3g.com (probably...at least mine is). The password is your phone number (again, without the leading 1. Example: Username: 8885551...@vzw3g.com Password: 8885551234 So, my /etc/chatscripts/blackberry file looks like: ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED ABORT ERROR SAY Initializing\n '' ATZ OK-AT-OK ATDT#777 CONNECT \d\c That script is called via the /etc/ppp/peers/blackberry script: debug debug debug nodetach # NOTE: This may change depending on which device XmBlackberry # sets up as the serial port for the modem... /dev/pts/7 115200 connect /usr/sbin/chat -f /etc/chatscripts/blackberry nomultilink defaultroute noipdefault ipcp-restart 7 ipcp-accept-local ipcp-accept-remote # added this, so that it doesn't disconnect after few mn of innactivity lcp-echo-interval 0 lcp-echo-failure 999 modem noauth nocrtscts noipdefault novj # refused anyway, no point in trying every time usepeerdns user 8885551...@vzw3g.com password 8885551234 I hope that helps. And yes, it was a right bitch to figure all that out. Google can be your friend, but you have to interpolate some of the data. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - Rick, Thanks much for the information. I'll let you know how it goes Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I've used a Verizon USB broadband modem. I'll post my config file shortly (getting on a train as I type this). BTW, I just tried again and it appears that NetworkManager does grok my BB. Plugged it in, right-clicked on the NM icon and went to Edit Connections and went to the Mobile Broadband tab. Haven't tried connecting via it, but it looks promising. I'll give it a whirl tonight when I get home. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -I'm afraid my karma just ran over your dogma- -- Here's my verizon ppp (point-to-point protocol) config file, which is in /etc/ppp/peers: /dev/ttyUSB0 921600 user PHONE_NUMBER_FROM_VERIZON@vzw3g.com remotename verizon noauth crtscts lock usepeerdns local passive defaultroute novj novjccomp connect chat -v -t 60 '' 'ATZ' OK 'AT\f' OK 'ATDT#777' CONNECT disconnect chat -v '' '\K' '' +++ATH0 Obviously replace the with the phone number Verizon assigned for your modem. Then (as root) just type: pppd call verizon Note: change the device from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyACM0 if that's the device created when you plug the modem in. I see that device (ttyACM0) when I use my Treo 700p as a wireless modem (which is what I use now instead
Re: FC11 logging in as root - FC10 change not enough?
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: With just an editor like VI? I went to SystemAdminister'Users and Groups' and went to the Groups tab. Wheel is NOT listed there. When you have User Manager open, go to Edit - Preferences and uncheck the box that says Hide System Users and Groups. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Installing Fedora on USB DiskOnKey and booting from different machine
Hi, I installed Fedora 11 on a DiskOnKey. I booted from this DiskONKey successfully on the machine on which I made the installation. However, when I tried on two different machines, it failed, and it reached the grub command line. On a third machine it reached a line containing the word GRUB only. I wonder - is there a way to install Fedora 11 on a DiskOnKey so that it will boot from any machine (which is capable of booting from USB )? Note: I had made my trials on motherboards after verifying that these motherboards **do** support boot from USB disk on key. This is the grub.conf on the USB DiskOnKey: title Fedora (2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 ro root=UUID=e73e50db-2420 -4792-a347-3e15ed38c5b9 rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64.img Regards, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Workstation 6.5.3 on F11
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 09:12 +0100, John Austin wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 21:10 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Has anyone succeeded in installing the 64bit VMware Workstation 6.5.3 (the latest version) on F11? I've tried twice now and in both cases it's hung: I picked this up on the web naxos hints_info 6# cat F11_vmware-6.5.3_install http://communities.vmware.com/thread/228949;jsessionid=06755595CD2B7A953C989EEE3E498A23?tstart=15 1) open two command windows. 2) become root in one of those windows. i.e. su -. 3) in the root-ed window run while true; do killall -9 vmware-modconfig-console; done 4) in the 2nd window run the install rpm -i VMware-Workstation-6.5.3-185404.x86_64.rpm 5) once the installer finishes go back to the root window and do a control-C to stop the kill loop. 6) In the root window run vmware-modconfig --console --install-all to install the modules. vmware-modconfig --console --install-all It worked for me Hope it helps John Both the 32-bit and 64-bit VMware 6.5.3 installs hang. Here's a short article I wrote to document what I did to get it installed and working: http://www.allmanpc.com/index.php/articles/44-articles-tech/84-vmware-ws-653 -- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- Twitter: allmanpc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python error with yum on F11
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:17 AM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Hello Mark, I think you might have (possibly inadvertently) messed up your python installation. Check the following: $ python --version # should show you Python 2.6 $ python -c import sys; print sys.path # This should show you the places that python would look for modules such as Popen. It ideally should include '/usr/lib/python2.6/' (and '/usr/lib64/python26 if you have a x86_64 box). $ echo $PYTHONPATH # This env variable is passed to python to modify the sys.path (mentioned above) at runtime. This should ideally not exist if you don't do any python development yourself. Let us know what you find, If I've messed up my python install, it certainly is inadvertent. I do use python, but I've checked my root history and I've not manually installed any python packages since I installed F11. The version is 2.6 To get a little cleaner list output, I ran python from root: Python 2.6 (r26:66714, Jun 8 2009, 16:07:26) [GCC 4.4.0 20090506 (Red Hat 4.4.0-4)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import sys for which in sys.path: ... print which ... /usr/lib/python26.zip /usr/lib/python2.6 /usr/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2 /usr/lib/python2.6/lib-tk /usr/lib/python2.6/lib-old /usr/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/Numeric /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/PIL /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gst-0.10 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0 The PYTHONPATH environment variable is not set And, no, this is not a x86_64 box. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python error with yum on F11
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.comwrote: If the above seem OK, then: rpm -q python yum# should be python-2.6-xxx, yum-3.2.xxx rpm -V python# should produce no output rpm -V yum # should produce no output or only /etc/yum.conf rpm -q python yum python-2.6-9.fc11.i586 yum-3.2.24-2.fc11.noarch rpm -V python S.5T./usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.pyc Yeah. I'm a little confused by that. So, I checked the date: ll /usr/lib/python2.6/sub* -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 45471 2009-06-08 16:07 /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 119 2009-08-26 21:15 /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.pyc -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 32985 2009-06-08 16:07 /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.pyo I am baffled as to what would have caused the module to recompile on 8/26. rpm -V yum returns no output. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python error with yum on F11
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote: Hmm, yeah, that indeed is weird. Note that since the file size is way too small (smaller than the /optimized/ .pyo), i doubt it is even a recompiled file. You may want to either run a rpm -Va or check the filesystem for all files modified on that date (ref, find -mtime), if you really are curious. If you care only about making yum work, you can of course delete the .pyc, which would cause yum (or any other python script that uses subprocess.py) to recreate it the next time subprocess is imported ...tho' you probably knew that already. I do use python, but I'm new to it. Your comment about the .pyc being recompiled was a great reminder. Thank you. rpm -Va python only flaged that one file. I did mv it, and then ran yum successfully. This was all an excellent reminder of how to properly troubleshoot these kinds of problems. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python error with yum on F11
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.comwrote: It probably is not a recompile, but rather something else bad. Anyway, that would be your problem with yum. Before you rm that bad subprocess.pyc, what does file say about it? You might also consider forcing an fsck (e.g., `touch /forcefsck ; reboot`). file says it is python 2.6 byte-compiled My thanks to you, as well, for your assistance. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
python error with yum on F11
I just started getting the following error from yum: There was a problem importing one of the Python modules required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was: cannot import name Popen Please install a package which provides this module, or verify that the module is installed correctly. It's possible that the above module doesn't match the current version of Python, which is: 2.6 (r26:66714, Jun 8 2009, 16:07:26) [GCC 4.4.0 20090506 (Red Hat 4.4.0-4)] If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to the yum faq at: http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq Popen is supposed to be provided by subprocess.py, and I've confirmed that class Popen is in the /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py module. I don't see anything helpful on the website above, or in a google search, or in pinging a few helpful associates. Any guidance from this community will be appreciated. Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: tagging of non critical path package into F-12?
Hi Peter, On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 08:51 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I presume that the reason that tagging requests aren't being done is due to the upcoming beta but is there a reason that non core or critical path packages can't be tagged in. I have a number of Moblin packages that fix various issues, in particular a rebuild of network-manager-netbook to fix networking against the latest NM build that hit just before the cut off. Given that none of these packages would be anywhere near any of the official spins is there any particular reason they can't be tagged in? Or if not when will they be reviewed? It took me a little while to find your tag request: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2448 I've found my tag requests have all been acted on quickly, so I'm guessing it's just a matter of someone in rel-eng finding the time to get to yours. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
keeping the old public key (id_rsa.pub) when upgrading Fedora
Hello, I have several fedora machines which I upgrade/reinstall, from time to time. I do this by reinstalling Fedora (I know that there is an upgrade option for Fedora but I prefer to reinstall). When doing so, the /root/.ssh folder is of course deleted. Now, on some of these machine, I have a public key which is installed on several servers to enable me ssh access to these machines without typing the password. The public key is generated thus: ssh-keygen -t rsa And it generates 2 files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub And I paste the contents of id_rsa.pub to the server /root./ssh/authorized_keys (or /root./ssh/authorized_keys2). Any idea if there is a way to keep the id_rsa.pub when reinstalling Fedora ? (If I try ssh-keygen -t rsa after reinstall, I am unable to ssh to these servers.) Regards, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: keeping the old public key (id_rsa.pub) when upgrading Fedora
At 11:52 on 10 Oct 2009, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, I have several fedora machines which I upgrade/reinstall, from time to time. I do this by reinstalling Fedora (I know that there is an upgrade option for Fedora but I prefer to reinstall). When doing so, the /root/.ssh folder is of course deleted. Now, on some of these machine, I have a public key which is installed on several servers to enable me ssh access to these machines without typing the password. The public key is generated thus: ssh-keygen -t rsa And it generates 2 files: id_rsa and id_rsa.pub And I paste the contents of id_rsa.pub to the server /root./ssh/authorized_keys (or /root./ssh/authorized_keys2). Any idea if there is a way to keep the id_rsa.pub when reinstalling Fedora ? How about backing it up? -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using a USB Hub on Linux ?
Folks - You can argue that USB isn't supposed to do this, but in reality it works. My wife uses Windows XP and I set her up with an IOGear USB 2.0 Peripherals Sharing Hub, model GUB201. It has worked wothout a hitch in letting her switch one printer between her desktop and laptop. Ergo, it CAN be done. As for doing it in FC? I don't know. I haven't had a huge need to figure it out. On 10/9/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 14:20 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: A typical /etc/cups/client.conf: --- # Client.conf ServerName coyote.coyote.den --- Entirely unnecessary for a small LAN that allows broadcasts but if it works for you and your network setup, then I am glad. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Sent from my mobile device -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Subtitle editor?
At 09:40 on 08 Oct 2009, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Advice please? Anything in Fedora repos? Or elsewhere? pkcon search details subtitle I use subtitleeditor. -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC11, skype, compatible microphone?
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 12:22 -0700, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I have setup Skype on my dell desktop and have the audio out working well. however, the ancient microphone i have is not working well. who is using dell, skype, and FC11 that could recommend mic to buy? tia, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) _ This email has been ClamScanned ! www.LinuxLightHouse.com I use one Logitech headset with separate audio out and mic jacks (not the USB version) on my Dell XPS 1710. Cost about $25. I also tried an old headset and I couldn't get the mic to work. No clue why. -- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- Twitter: allmanpc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC11, skype, compatible microphone?
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:51 -0700, jack craig wrote: its a telex m-40 that i have had kicking around for a long time. still, i could try a test on my daughters M$ and see if it works better there... other Skype folks say they hear me faintly, but a lot of static; i have tried the input control, but it doesnt seem to help. maybe i should try the arecord with it, ... thx for your time, jackc... On 10/02/2009 12:55 PM, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 12:22 -0700, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, I have setup Skype on my dell desktop and have the audio out working well. however, the ancient microphone i have is not working well. who is using dell, skype, and FC11 that could recommend mic to buy? tia, jackc... -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) _ This email has been ClamScanned ! www.LinuxLightHouse.com Can you confirm that the microphone is working on another computer? If that is the case, it is not the microphone that is causing issues if it is plugging in using the regular mini-jack. Tait -- jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com 831-684-1375 (Office) 831-596-6924 (cell) IM: jackcraigaptos (AIM) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Try running gnome-sound-recorder included in the gnome-media package. That's what I used to check out all the KMix settings (I use KDE) and the volume/mute controls on the headset. BTW, that's one thing I liked about the Logitech headset--it has a mute and volume control in the cable. -- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- Twitter: allmanpc Mark Allman's profile on LinkedIn signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: combining image files into a pdf
At 08:14 on 24 Sep 2009, David Timms wrote: Hi, I have image files of type: - png - tif (b/w) - fax like - jpg that were produced by my scanner, during scan of a document. I've found that the netpbm tools (pnmtops) do a much better job at this than ImageMagick (convert) and friends. Assuming A4 size images, try something like: convert imagefile pnm:- | \ pnmtops -imagewidth 8.27 -nocenter | \ ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=a4 - imagefile.pdf for each image, followed by: pdftk imagefile*.pdf cat output finished.pdf to concatenate them all into one pdf file. -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Audio broken in F11
I haven't seen any bugs relating to this. but it appears audio is broken in F11. When I attempt to play any files the pulseaudio control shows activity but no sound. Has anyone else seen this? -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Audio broken in F11
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Sun, 20.09.09 11:01, Mark Bidewell (mark.bidew...@alumni.clemson.edu) wrote: I haven't seen any bugs relating to this. but it appears audio is broken in F11. When I attempt to play any files the pulseaudio control shows activity but no sound. Has anyone else seen this? Very likely this is caused by one of these two reasons: Most likely your mixer is not set up correctly. Try if alsactl init -c0 and see if that helps. If it doesn't try alsamixer -c0 in a terminal and see if you can find an option you have to toggle to make sound work. If you find one please file a bug so that we can include it in the default mixer database. Include the output of alsa-info.sh --no-upload there. File it against alsa-utils. Other than that it might be that the HDA driver doesn't recognize your specific card. You should play around with the model argument to snd-hda-intel if this is the problem. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list It turns out the Speaker option in alsamixer is 0. I will file a bug report -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Merging from staging to master
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 16:54 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: This has bugged me forever and I think I've got it figured out now (thanks mdomsch for pointing me in the right direction) Lets say you've been working for weeks on a module in staging and you want to cherry pick those commits. How do you do it? It becomes trickier even if someone else has been working on other modules in staging. It's probably better to have a topic branch for your changes and merge that regularly into staging while you're working on it. When it's all done, you can merge the topic branch into master. Cheers, Mark. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Merging from staging to master
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 07:46 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 16:54 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: This has bugged me forever and I think I've got it figured out now (thanks mdomsch for pointing me in the right direction) Lets say you've been working for weeks on a module in staging and you want to cherry pick those commits. How do you do it? It becomes trickier even if someone else has been working on other modules in staging. It's probably better to have a topic branch for your changes and merge that regularly into staging while you're working on it. When it's all done, you can merge the topic branch into master. There's no way to properly test the changes with that method though unfortunately. How is it different? Merging the topic branch into staging is the same as doing the working on staging itself, except the work is better isolated for merging into master later. Cheers, Mark. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Merging from staging to master
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 08:41 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 07:46 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 16:54 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: This has bugged me forever and I think I've got it figured out now (thanks mdomsch for pointing me in the right direction) Lets say you've been working for weeks on a module in staging and you want to cherry pick those commits. How do you do it? It becomes trickier even if someone else has been working on other modules in staging. It's probably better to have a topic branch for your changes and merge that regularly into staging while you're working on it. When it's all done, you can merge the topic branch into master. There's no way to properly test the changes with that method though unfortunately. How is it different? Merging the topic branch into staging is the same as doing the working on staging itself, except the work is better isolated for merging into master later. Because we have to pick which branch to send to staging. So if I picked branch 'mmcgrath' and luke picked branch 'lmacken' neither of them would end up being tested in our actual staging environment since we have to point the staging environment at a specific branch. I was assuming there was a branch called 'staging' $ git checkout -b mmcgrath-fix-foo-bar origin/staging ... do stuff while other people do stuff on staging ... $ git fetch origin $ git checkout -b staging-merge origin/staging $ git merge mmcgrath-fix-foo-bar $ git push origin HEAD:staging Then when it has been tested: $ git fetch origin $ git checkout -b final-merge origin/master $ git merge mmcgrath-fix-foo-bar $ git push origin HEAD:master That should work fine. Cheers, Mark. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
F11: nvidia, KDE or X window display errors
Lately I've been seeing windows get corrupted suddenly. I took a snapshot of one and you can see it at http://www.allmanpc.com/video_display_error.jpg If I minimize/restore the window it will (so far) re-display correctly. Moving between workspaces (I have 4) doesn't fix the problem. If I mininize the window and hover over the task bar area for the window it'll show me a small preview of the window and it will still look corrupted. If I restore the window it will start to display corrupted for a split second and then appear to repaint correctly (it's hard to tell--it's very fast). Has anyone else seen this? The overall desktop displays fine. The problem is limited to windows. It doesn't appear to be an app-related issue. I've seen this happen to OpenOffice, Evolution and Opera windows (and maybe others--I don't recall). My /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is very tiny: # Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AIGLX on EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nvidia Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection I don't know if this is an X and/or KDE and/or nvidia problem. This just started within the past week or two. I haven't changed any nvidia, X or KDE settings lately. I've re-booted the laptop a few time in the past few weeks so it's not an update needs a reboot issue. I've looked through ~/.xsession-errors but nothing looked obvious like error displaying window. One observation: the windows which are corrupted always look about like what the snapshot image I mentioned earlier looks like. It's not random. It looks like that green vertical bar pattern on black every time. My system (which is up to date as of a few days ago): Dell XPS 1710 Video H/W: nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GTX Kernel: 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 Desktop: KDE xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.36-1.fc11.i586 kmod-nvidia-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586-185.18.36-1.fc10.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.36-1.fc11.i586 akmod-nvidia-185.18.36-1.fc11.i686 kdebase-4.3.0-1.fc11.i586 Anyone have a clue what might be causing this? -- Mark C. Allman, PMP -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- Twitter: allmanpc Consulting IT Project/Program Management: on-time, on-budget signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GCC var-tracking-assignments: testing and bug reports appreciated
Dave Airlie airlied at redhat.com writes:
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 21:27 +, Mark Wielaard wrote:
Although it obviously would have been far nicer to have had this all in
the mass rebuild, there were multiple test builds against rawhide packages.
I
did a build of the rawhide kernel package using jakub's gcc-vta and lxo used
that to post results of testing to the gcc list, which helped get it
accepted
upstream, which is a requirement for it to make it into fedora, etc.
Sorry, this wasn't more visible.
Wierdly the first package that broke when this was pushed was the
kernel
Yes :{ Which does proof Jesse's point of course.
There is no substitute for just dumping the code into rawhide
to give it a thorough testing... The original plan
Jakub had was to do a complete out-of-repo mass-rebuild before
adding it, but ran out of time, so that would have made it hit
rawhide even later... And Alex has been fast fixing any issues.
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Re: GCC var-tracking-assignments: testing and bug reports appreciated
Josh Boyer jwboyer at gmail.com writes: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:43:26PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: Because we really want it in F12, to make e.g. systemtap usable. It got quite a lot of testing already and has been in development for 2 years. Originally it was expected to be merged early in the summer, testing rawhide gccs have been prepared already in early August. So systemtap wasn't considered usable before this? I am not a GCC expert, but I can see how this feature would help it. But it was surely usable before this, right? Better debuginfo and better systemtap tracing support is part of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapTracingRefresh which is targetted at F12. But better variable tracking in the dwarf output of gcc will also help other observability tools in Fedora (like the updated gdb/archer). Cheers, Mark -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: GCC var-tracking-assignments: testing and bug reports appreciated
Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com writes: This is my issue too. There is claim that it was tested, yet it wasn't tested in the same place we require every other feature to be tested, that being rawhide. Although it obviously would have been far nicer to have had this all in before the mass rebuild, there were multiple test builds against rawhide packages. I did a build of the rawhide kernel package using jakub's gcc-vta and lxo used that to post results of testing to the gcc list, which helped get it accepted upstream, which is a requirement for it to make it into fedora, etc. Sorry, this wasn't more visible. Cheers, Mark -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
HDA-Intel: device controlC0 creation question
System: Dell XPS 1710 Sound H/W: HDA-Intel Current kernel: 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 In the /dev/snd directory I see: hwC0D0 hwC0D1 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p pcmC0D1p timer The controlC0 device is created in /dev, not in /dev/snd, and the first rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/90-alsa.rules fails. In the file /etc/udev/rules.d/40-alsa.rules I see the line: KERNEL==controlC[1-9]*, NAME=snd/%k, MODE=0666 If I change [1-9] to [0-9] I see the controlC0 device created in /dev/snd, and the alsa rules run just fine. I see in /dev/snd: controlC0 hwC0D0 hwC0D1 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p pcmC0D1p timer The controlC0 should be in /dev/snd, correct? Also, none of the sound devices like /dev/audio, dev/dsp, /dev/mixer, etc., are created. Now that I have the controlC0 device being created in (what I hope is) the correct place, where is the creation of the /dev devices like dsp and audio controlled? I see lines like KERNEL==audio0, SYMLINK+=audio, MODE=0666 in 40-alsa.rules but no /dev/audio (or audio0) device ends up being created. Any suggestions would be helpful. tia, -- Mark C. Allman, PMP -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- Twitter: allmanpc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Chrome-Fedora People
At 09:19 on 02 Sep 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Tried that, but no dice. I keep getting Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. I can't see where Javascript is turned on or off (though the Help implies it's on by default), and libflashplayer.so is one of the plugins in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins, now symlinked to /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/plugins. Did you read about:linux-splash ? -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is pulseaudio started?
At 14:49 on 27 Aug 2009, Steve Blackwell wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:12:39 +0930 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 10:12 -0400, Steve Blackwell wrote: I'd like to know where (which file) the information is stored in and what program starts it. gdm? gnome? gconf? A hint for finding out things like that: Change a setting, and search for a very recently changed file. Interesting. I had already found a directory called ~/.config/autostart but there was no hint of anything pulseaudio related in there. Then I followed your suggestion and disabled its autostart and searched for recently changed files. Now there is a file called ~/.config/pulseaudio.desktop. That is backward to what I would have expected and if I enable pulseaudio again, the file is removed. Come on, it's not exactly rocket-science. Perhaps you could start by reading what you've posted: The pulseaudio.desktop file contains this: [Desktop Entry] snip X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false Look also in /etc/xdg/autostart/ and at http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html -- Mark Knoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
rgheck wrote: On 08/27/2009 11:43 AM, Brian Bentley wrote: I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. It ought just to connect. Choose Edit connections. Select the connection you want to use and choose Edit. Make sure Connect automatically is checked. Check the IPv4 settings, and make sure they are right for your network. rh Yet another reason that Network Manager needs to go away. It's a giant PITA. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CUPS: publishing a printer?
On 08/25/2009 11:05 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: Using System|Administration|Printing i can see my printers, so I select my default printer and look at the Policies section. I shows Shared but with an annotation that it is not published and to see Server Settings for information. Where is this particular Server Settings it refers to? System|Administration|Server Settings has nothing appropriate, and there is no Server Settings in the Printing complex. System|Administration|Printing brings up the Printer Configuration gui app. On the menu bar is Server Printer Group View Help. Click Server and that gives you a drop-down with Settings ... as the second choice. Settings brings up a Basic Server Settings dialog box. The second check box is Publish shared printers . . . I installed samba-swat and browsed through the advanced view on printing and could find nothing appropriate. So, how does one publish a printer under F11? Thanks for your attention. -- PGP key available -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hplip
Patrick - When I installed hplip for my OfficeJet J6480, the automatic configuration didn't work correctly. Further, I couldn't fix it with either system-config-printer, cups, or lpadmin. I had to manually delete the printer from the printers.conf file, the restart the cups service. That was just to get to a point of having no printers defined. From there I was able to run system-config-printer and get my printer working correctly. I don't know if that will work in your case, but it might worth considering. On 8/20/09, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote: Then, I am confuse. Right now, rpm -q hplip and hpijs shwow that I did not install hplip and hpijs But I installed hplip from hplip-3.9.8.run, ie, that hplip and hpijs are installed ? So. I could remove the hplip-3.9.8, and install hpijs.rpm (fedora 11) and it should work. But then if I install hplip-3.9.8, it will remove the hpijs from fedora ? Now, the question, is what is the difference between the hpijs-3.9.2-4.fc11 and the hpijs.3.9.8 ? By the way, I do understand that the blank pages are due to the ppd file because it is OK for none postscript file. Should I conclude that I need to use the ppd file coming with hpihs-3.9.4-4 ? But this package does not seems to have a ppd file for an HP-laserjet_P1005 ? So, it looks like that I am stick with the HP distribution !! Am I wrong ? Patrick Dupre kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 20. elokuuta 2009): I can try to remove hplip. But, when I print, do I really use hplip ? Yes, you use the hp CUPS backend included in the hplip package and the driver from the hpijs pacakge. Do I only need a ppd file ? Only PostScript printers work with only a ppd file. -- --- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | Department of Chemistry| |Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | |Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | |email: pd...@york.ac.uk == -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates lacking descriptions
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 22:24 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:06:56PM -0700, Jesse W wrote: What would be a good next step for me to take to help get descriptions added to these updates (and make sure this happens less often in the future) ? It should fall back to taking the description from the changelog (in fact, I think it already does that right now). Don't make package maintainers write 'New upstream release X.Y.Z' any more often than they have to ... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines#Update_Descriptions suggests: 3. For new upstream releases, a summary of the important changes and/or a link to the upstream changelog Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Updates lacking descriptions
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:17 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: With you folks demanding more explicit changelogs you are rudestly pushing around package maintainers and force them to waste time to fullfill your solely burecratic demands. This is hardly being demanding, rude, bullying or bureaucratic: These are not intended to be prescriptive rules. Package maintainers are expected to to exercise their own common sense and good judgement. The guidelines tries to explain to maintainers why their users would benefit better update descriptions and what kind of information makes a better update description. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines As with anything, I'm sure they could be improved with constructive suggestions. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal
On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 23:15 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Unlike some people around on this list, these tools' upstreams know how to use the autotools (I am active contributor to all of them): Use pregenerated files, do not run the autotools while building. The last time this came up here, I asked: Yes, that autotools generated files are distributed in tarballs is a clear autotools design decision. But why? Is it: a) because the autotools maintainers feel it is unreliable to have people building from the tarball to re-run autotools or b) because the autotools maintainers feel it is inconvenient to require people build from tarballs to have autotools installed AFAICT (a) is why you advocate (as I used to also) patching the auto-generated files. However, perhaps things have moved on and (b) is the only real reason these days that tarballs contain the auto-generated files? Chers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 12:58 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: All this really does is create a pseudo rawhide for each release, blurring the lines even more around why we even do releases. With a 6 month cycle, do we really want to take on all this extra headaches and hassles just so that you can have some newer experimental software a bit sooner, or without doing a wholesale update to the next release? For fedora-virt folks, we have a virt-preview repository, the general idea being: - a repo where you can pull f11 builds of the latest rawhide virt bits - purely for people who want to help with testing f12 virt, but aren't willing to run rawhide - it's not about making new features available to f11 users, it's about allowing f11 users to get involved with f12 development - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces - we'll do our best to fix problems specific to this repo, but in reality we care more about problems which affect stock f11 or rawhide/f12 - we're trying to keep the limit the packages in the repo to purely virt related packages - e.g. right now we need something from f12 selinux-policy, but I'm hoping we can get added in an f11 update rather than pulling in the f12 version and breaking non-virt stuff It hasn't been around long, but it's working well and we're getting valuable testing from it. The only thing we're missing is that we can't add virt-preview packages to the buildroot. We're considering switching from koji to mock for the builds because of this. With a little automation, I think this model could work fairly well for the likes of GNOME. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 20:30 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 00:56 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: I'll make sure one of the Desktop-y guys updates this (presumably Matthias). I've updated it recently and bumped it to 75%. It would seem disingenuous to bump it to 100% when GNOME 2.28 has not been released yet. Well, presumably you have a feature frozen 2.27 version in rawhide. IMHO, that means the actual features in 2.28 are at 100% - i.e. available for testing in the alpha release, definitely going to be in the final release etc. It is fine for the feature wrangler to propose it for removal. But I certainly hope that Fesco will not only look at pretty meaningless percentages, but at precedents and schedule alignments. Indeed. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Adam Millermaxamill...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: snip We've had this discussion before, but to re-state my opinion: the only sane way to handle this is multiple, discretionary update repositories. A repository for security and stable bugfix updates, and a repository for other updates - major version bumps whose purpose isn't solely to fix a security issue or, with minimal changes, a clearly identified bug. It's more work, but it's the only workable consistent system that doesn't restrict some maintainer from being able to do what they want to do. A distribution with much fewer resources than Fedora (Mandriva) has been using this system successfully, to the satisfaction of developers and users, for several releases now. The system gives users the flexibility to choose whether they want a 'traditional' stable update system, or a more adventurous, version-upgrading system. And maintainers can choose whether or not they want to take on the work of shipping updates in the adventurous repository. In all cases, users and maintainers both know what each repository is for, and what they'll be getting depending on which they choose to use. snip +1 Would definitely be one way to solve this sort of problem. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list +1 OpenSUSE buildservice does this and it is nice to be able to pull things like latest OpenOffice, etc. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
F10 install update repo
I just installed F10 for the first time on a server here. The installation went swimmingly, but the first time I ran 'yum update' I got this: Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386 error was [Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known') Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again Can someone clue me in to the problem? -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 install update repo -- SOLVED
That's interesting, DESPITE my including all networking information during the installation, /etc/resolv.conf was empty. I'd file a bug but since it's not F11, I'm not going to bother. Sorry to trouble everyone. I just installed F10 for the first time on a server here. The installation went swimmingly, but the first time I ran 'yum update' I got this: Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386 error was [Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known') Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again Can someone clue me in to the problem? -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Audio CD problem solution tested and it works
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:53:57 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: In bugzilla # 513495 Aram Agajanian poses a solution for the Audio CD problem and it works. First you get udev-141-4.fc11.src.rpm from the link below. http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/udev/141/4.fc11/src/ udev-141-4.fc11.src.rpm Get the spec file with rpm -i udev-141-4.fc11.src.rpm Remove patch4 from the spec file by commenting it out. Do a rpmbuild -bp then a rpmbuild -bb Install the files created (not the devel files) udev, udev-static libudev0 and libvolume_id Reboot and the Audio CD icon is back. -- I will be posting a more detailed description in the bugzilla report. I tried the above, and yes the Audio CD icon is back on the Gnome desktop. It still is not back on the KDE desktop. Since it's back on the Gnome desktop, Rhythmbox sees the contents. However, Rhythmbox will not play the CD for me. Audacious plays the CD through pulseaudio, but with skips. VLC struggles, but plays the CD. KsCD sees the CD (either way), but does not play it. Kaffine happily plays the CD regardless, as long as the back end is ALSA. If KDE is configured to use pulseaudio, then Kaffine sees the CD but does not play it. I reverted by adding the patch back in, rebuilding the RPMs, installing, and then rebooting. Apparently, there are more things going on (at least on this system - upgraded from F10 to F11 and re-installed pulseaudio). /mde/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cron jobs running twice
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 08:18 -0400, Casartello, Thomas wrote: I have a weird issue on one of my Fedora 11 machines. All my cron jobs keep running twice. (for example the stuff in cron.hourly will run twice every hour.) Just upgraded this machine from Fedora 10 yesterday. There’s only one crond process running so I’m not sure why it’s doing it. Here’s the log: Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia CROND[18485]: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia CROND[18486]: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18485]: starting 0anacron Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18486]: starting 0anacron Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18504]: finished 0anacron Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18505]: finished 0anacron Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18486]: starting process-quarantine.pl Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18485]: starting process-quarantine.pl Jul 31 07:01:01 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[18516]: finished process-quarantine.pl Jul 31 07:04:36 ataxia run-parts(/etc/cron.hourly)[20474]: finished process-quarantine.pl Thomas E. Casartello, Jr. Staff Assistant - Wireless/Linux Administrator Information Technology Wilson 105A Westfield State College (413) 572-8245 Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I bet that cron and anacron are both running your cron jobs. I ran into this when I upgraded one of my systems to F11. If I remember correctly I commented out the run cron jobs stuff in the anacron config. -- Mark C. Allman, PMP -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- Twitter: allmanpc Consulting IT Project/Program Management: on-time, on-budget signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sound is gone
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: in /etc/pulse/default.pa, change the line load-module module-hal-detect to load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0 And if I do this, I lose my PCI-based sound card from pulseaudio. My hardware: LogiTech QuickCam Pro 5000: card 0 (usb) Intel 82801BA/BAM AC'97 : card 1 (on board) Turtle Beach Santa Cruz CS46xx: card 2 (PCI card - my preferred card) If I stop playback on a player (audacious for example), I lose sound when I restart the playback. I have to exit the player to get sound back. I have also noticed that when using audacious or rhythmbox, the stereo link icon in the advanced volume control becomes unlinked. There are more issues, but I have not done a systematic walk through all of them at this point. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updated Fedora 12 Schedule (take 2)
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 20:59 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: Mark McLoughlin said the following on 07/24/2009 05:55 AM Pacific Time: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 21:09 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng.ics In the F-11 schedule, we had 85 days between Feature Freeze and GA. And then GA slipped by two weeks. In the F-12 schedule, we now have 99 days between Feature Freeze and GA. For Fedora 12 An extra week was added to accommodate Linux plumbers conference, etc...https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1271 In addition there are four weeks in the Fedora 12 schedule for Alpha (previously known as Beta) versus the three weeks in Fedora 11--this was an oversight in the setting of the Fedora 11 schedule which did not allow for three weekly snapshots. Okay, the extra two weeks are to allow for (rel-eng?) people being missing during plumbers and to allow for a third snapshot between alpha and beta. That makes sense on the face of it, but the end result for developers is a release cycle split into a 49 day development period followed by a 99 day stablization period. That's quite conservative for a bleeding edge distro. Constructive suggestion for the next cycle - we should go back to a shorter gap between Feature Freeze and GA. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Updated Fedora 12 Schedule (take 2)
Hi John, (Cc-ing fedora-devel-list, surprised to see the schedule hasn't been posted there) On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 21:09 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng.ics In the F-11 schedule, we had 85 days between Feature Freeze and GA. And then GA slipped by two weeks. In the F-12 schedule, we now have 99 days between Feature Freeze and GA. This seriously cuts into development time, and we already have a shorter releases cycle. Why is that? Thanks, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Updated Fedora 12 Schedule (take 2)
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 10:13 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Mark McLoughlin (mar...@redhat.com) said: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng.ics In the F-11 schedule, we had 85 days between Feature Freeze and GA. And then GA slipped by two weeks. In the F-12 schedule, we now have 99 days between Feature Freeze and GA. This seriously cuts into development time, and we already have a shorter releases cycle. Why is that? At least one week of this (that I recall) is to have the feature freeze be a week before the 'code freeze' for the milestone; the idea is that to avoid the 'all features land at once, and we have to spend a week cleaning them up' problem. Had that last time too: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule 2009-03-03 Feature Freeze 2009-03-10 Beta Freeze Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
It was fun, bye bye.
Hi, It all started a few __months__ ago when i visited Max Spevack with ideas on how to improve the fedora website(s). (fp.o and get.fp.o) Back then fedora 11 was in the ending stages and there wasn't a lot of time to do any new things (actually there was no time for that) so it had to wait till after fedora 11 was released. After that happened (f11 release) i joined fedora with the idea to improve there website. Here are the problems i encountered. - First FAS. I needed to agree on the CLA but the information requirements are roughly the same as when you order something on a web shop. They just don't ask a credit card number yet. - - So i disagree with the side effect that i can't go to the wiki. - I had mockups of fp.o and get.fp.o that only needed polishing and making them look right in the current fp.o theme. But it was requested (read demanded) that i collected feedback... - After a lot of talking i did collect feedback: http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt - Right now Mizmo is making mockups of that feedback and some other feedback but none of the feedback was discussed which she did require me to do! kinda odd don't you think. - I came here to do that website stuff. Mizmo now does it which is exactly NOT what i wanted - Also the person all my work ends up with is Mizmo. The person i just don't like is: the same one. That is going (and already has) to give conflicts! I could make this list a lot longer with a lot insults or harsh things to mizmo but i won't do that although in my opinion she does deserver it! So where do i stand now? well, it took months to get NOWHERE so i'm not going to spend more months to get even further in nowhere. The design team had the chance to get me in, get a decent designer and coder in but screwed up big time. Work is going extremely slow if going at all and when i say something (to mizmo) it always seems land the wrong way.. I've had it with this head design team member thus i won't attend any future website meetings. I've already had it for a long time how fedora operates (hints at nautilus spatial view) and i had hoped that i could in time make a difference in Fedora. Guess that's not going to happen and i don't mind that. So, how have those last few months been for me? well, not productive at all! Talking a LOT and doing extremely little seems to be the way mizmo likes it. I don't so it was just not funny for me. Other people might be able to work in conditions like that but i like to get out of it ASAP. One note to Mizmo: At the very first moment, and that was ~1 1/2 year ago with Project Amber when i first spoke to you. you where extremely bossy back then and wanted everything the way you deem right. I found that strange but just took it for granted. Now the last few months i still notice the exact same behaviour of you. I hate that kind of behaviour. Boss someone else around, not me! And learn how to take on sarcasm. It would be best to just quit being bossy at all. I feel like i've been very mild in this entire message. One last request: Delete my fas account please (markg85) and everything that has markg85 in it. For fas: Why is there now: delete my account? To the rest of the website team, Good luck. That was it from me. Greetings, Mark -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Is it possible to install Skype on Fedora 11 ?
Hello, I tried to install Skype on Fedora 11 on a 64 bit machine (x86_64). I downloaded the rpm from Skype website and tried to install. There is no rpm for f11 in Skype website. Only rpms for fedora 6 and 7; See: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/ so I downloaded the rpm for fedora 7. These rpms (also for Fedora 6) are for 32 bit machines. So when trying to install the skype rpm, I get errors which tell me that I need to install qt 32 bit. The errors I get are : ... libQtCore.so.4 is needed by skype-2.0.0.72... libQtDBus.so.4 is needed by skype-2.0.0.72... libQtGui.so.4 is needed by skype-2.0.0.72... ... So I tried to install qt for 32 bit, and it failed with Transaction Check Error: yum install qt.i386 Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/qt4/translations/assistant_adp_de.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/assistant_adp_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/assistant_adp_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/assistant_de.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/assistant_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/assistant_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/designer_de.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/designer_ja.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/designer_pl.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/designer_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/designer_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/linguist_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/linguist_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_de.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_help_de.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_help_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_help_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qtconfig_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qtconfig_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qvfb_zh_CN.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/qt4/translations/qvfb_zh_TW.qm from install of qt-1:4.5.1-13.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package qt-1:4.4.3-2.fc10.x86_64 Error Summary - Any ideas what should I do ? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is it possible to install Skype on Fedora 11 ?
John, thanks, adding the skype repo and yum install skype worked. Great! rgs, Mark On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:24 PM, John Hornejohn.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 13:58 +0300, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, So I tried to install qt for 32 bit, and it failed with Transaction Check Error: Take a look at http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/161/26/2/9/#fedora_skype Scroll down for the skype installation. I used the skype repository. Yum then resolves all the dependencies, and skype installed with no problems. John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Meeting Log - 2009-07-17
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Ricky Zhouri...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 17:00 ricky #startmeeting 17:46 ricky #endmeeting 17:46 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Meeting in ~30 mins| The Fedora Websites team maintains the official Fedora Project websites (http://fedoraproject.org/) | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites 17:46 zodbot Meeting ended Fri Jul 17 17:46:45 2009 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . 17:46 zodbot Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-websites/2009-07-17/fedora-websites.2009-07-17-17.00.html 17:46 zodbot Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-websites/2009-07-17/fedora-websites.2009-07-17-17.00.txt 17:46 zodbot Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-websites/2009-07-17/fedora-websites.2009-07-17-17.00.log.html -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list Ah men, sorry, i completely forgot about the meeting today. I will read the log and be there next time. -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: Feedback gathered for fedoraproject.org and get.fedoraproject.org
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Markmark...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, It was suggested that i gather feedback on the 2 sites to see what users experience when they want to download fedora. Here is the feedback. (file is here incase the format is off: http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt) And i have anonymized all the feedback because some people asked that before i started to ask questions. The feedback below was gathered in a few irc rooms mostly #fedora and #web. hiemanshu helped me gathering some of the feedback below. Personal real world feedback is asked from 6 persons but not given since fedora would't even run on there stock notebooks! Feedback fedoraproject.org and get-fedora User 1 - fedora main site -- no issues, it's fine - get.fp.o -- KDE download is a bit hidden -- x64 is hidden. users suggestion: perhaps 2 download buttons: 'download x64' and 'download x32' -- user said: also add buttons for the dvd versions of tose 2 architectures -- Make the gnome-kde choosable like on the mandriva download page -- Ajax popup with download details (distribution, desktop environment, installation guide etc...) After showing the mandriva download style he said he only missed the architecture option User 2 - fedora main site -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention - get.fp.o -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention -- Spins, where do i need them for? remove it! User 3 - fedora main site -- 'looks oke' - get.fp.o -- More infor on spins rather then just one link -- keep it simple -- When asked for an x64 download link: I don't think it should be there, as many people would download it, and it wouldn't work on their non x86_64 machines. User 4 - fedora main site -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites. - get.fp.o -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites. -- no issues, it was pretty obvious it's the second big button -- Trying to download x64 well, it seems harder because I went to the list of mirrors instead of just instantly getting the download link --also, when I got to the mirror list I had to click on a mirror and browse to where the iso files are for F11 --we're talking 8-9 clicks at least instead of 1x --for the 3rd or 4th most common download it would be nice if it were shorter, but not a big deal to me --I'd like it if their was a link directly to the file you wanted on the mirror (if that is possible or even makes sense) --but it would be possible for it to start me off in say /release/11/Fedora/x86_64 --yeah, that would make sense for it to do that after I click on the filter for F11 x86_64 --yep, that seems like it would be better instead of starting at the base User 5 - fedora main site -- seems OK, everything looks like its working, by preference I like a bit more of a banner on sites, but thats personal -- posibly more of a note that its based on the comercial Red Hat distro - get.fp.o -- seems fine to me User 6 - fedora main site -- if I'm new to linux and need help, do I click docs, wiki, get help, or what? -- too much unused white space - get.fp.o -- seems too cluttered -- leads me to wonder wtf I click on -- and it lacks consistancy -- if you have several options, display them in a consistent manner --that page has a couple different options in the middle, other options in a different style on the right (well, i think they are different) and then other, alternat eoptions at the bottom --could it not list all the options in one consistant list, explaining what each is, with the different download options? User 7 - fedora main site -- None - get.fp.o -- i guess download button could be bigger, but i noticed it immediately User 8 - fedora main site -- should have a big download button -- Well, i think user who wants to install something *NIX'y is pretty advanced to find a download link on the website - get.fp.o -- None User 9 - fedora main site -- and it should probably have a better link text -- I mean, imagine reading it; Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now INSTALLABLE LIVE CD! - get.fp.o -- only thing is the download now link might not be obvious as a link - Other -- one last thing; the layout breaks on a small viewport (4-500px wide) -- should have some minimal width limiter -- http://w-wins.com/images/brokenlayout.png Mixed from: UxerX and UserY (and others) -- the front-page of fedoraproject.org is a bit non-descript -- anonymous, if you will -- since this is mostly about getting people to use it, I'd go for a more in your face approach, have a direct download button on the front page, larger logo, more THIS IS FEDORA :) -- when the writing goes one word per line, things are bad -- no prominent logos, nothing -- i would have something similar to how firefox
Feedback gathered for fedoraproject.org and get.fedoraproject.org
Hey, It was suggested that i gather feedback on the 2 sites to see what users experience when they want to download fedora. Here is the feedback. (file is here incase the format is off: http://fedora.mageprojects.com/fedora_feedback_anonymized.txt) And i have anonymized all the feedback because some people asked that before i started to ask questions. The feedback below was gathered in a few irc rooms mostly #fedora and #web. hiemanshu helped me gathering some of the feedback below. Personal real world feedback is asked from 6 persons but not given since fedora would't even run on there stock notebooks! Feedback fedoraproject.org and get-fedora User 1 - fedora main site -- no issues, it's fine - get.fp.o -- KDE download is a bit hidden -- x64 is hidden. users suggestion: perhaps 2 download buttons: 'download x64' and 'download x32' -- user said: also add buttons for the dvd versions of tose 2 architectures -- Make the gnome-kde choosable like on the mandriva download page -- Ajax popup with download details (distribution, desktop environment, installation guide etc...) After showing the mandriva download style he said he only missed the architecture option User 2 - fedora main site -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention - get.fp.o -- Misses a big download fedora button, something that attracts the attention -- Spins, where do i need them for? remove it! User 3 - fedora main site -- 'looks oke' - get.fp.o -- More infor on spins rather then just one link -- keep it simple -- When asked for an x64 download link: I don't think it should be there, as many people would download it, and it wouldn't work on their non x86_64 machines. User 4 - fedora main site -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites. - get.fp.o -- I've been able to find everything I need on the websites. -- no issues, it was pretty obvious it's the second big button -- Trying to download x64 well, it seems harder because I went to the list of mirrors instead of just instantly getting the download link --also, when I got to the mirror list I had to click on a mirror and browse to where the iso files are for F11 --we're talking 8-9 clicks at least instead of 1x --for the 3rd or 4th most common download it would be nice if it were shorter, but not a big deal to me --I'd like it if their was a link directly to the file you wanted on the mirror (if that is possible or even makes sense) --but it would be possible for it to start me off in say /release/11/Fedora/x86_64 --yeah, that would make sense for it to do that after I click on the filter for F11 x86_64 --yep, that seems like it would be better instead of starting at the base User 5 - fedora main site -- seems OK, everything looks like its working, by preference I like a bit more of a banner on sites, but thats personal -- posibly more of a note that its based on the comercial Red Hat distro - get.fp.o -- seems fine to me User 6 - fedora main site -- if I'm new to linux and need help, do I click docs, wiki, get help, or what? -- too much unused white space - get.fp.o -- seems too cluttered -- leads me to wonder wtf I click on -- and it lacks consistancy -- if you have several options, display them in a consistent manner --that page has a couple different options in the middle, other options in a different style on the right (well, i think they are different) and then other, alternat eoptions at the bottom --could it not list all the options in one consistant list, explaining what each is, with the different download options? User 7 - fedora main site -- None - get.fp.o -- i guess download button could be bigger, but i noticed it immediately User 8 - fedora main site -- should have a big download button -- Well, i think user who wants to install something *NIX'y is pretty advanced to find a download link on the website - get.fp.o -- None User 9 - fedora main site -- and it should probably have a better link text -- I mean, imagine reading it; Get Fedora 11 Desktop Edition Now INSTALLABLE LIVE CD! - get.fp.o -- only thing is the download now link might not be obvious as a link - Other -- one last thing; the layout breaks on a small viewport (4-500px wide) -- should have some minimal width limiter -- http://w-wins.com/images/brokenlayout.png Mixed from: UxerX and UserY (and others) -- the front-page of fedoraproject.org is a bit non-descript -- anonymous, if you will -- since this is mostly about getting people to use it, I'd go for a more in your face approach, have a direct download button on the front page, larger logo, more THIS IS FEDORA :) -- when the writing goes one word per line, things are bad -- no prominent logos, nothing -- i would have something similar to how firefox has theirs, short and sweet with a bit of kapow -- if i didn't know what fedora is i wouldn't immediately know what it was -- ONE sentence explaining that This is the Linux
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 21:13 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It just fits into your blind spot so nicely -- because you are firmly convinced that there is never any downside, you completely ignore everytime someone brings up an obvious one. Have a look at http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct e.g. assume people mean well - IMHO, Orcan is just looking for specific examples of things breaking in the past because he genuinely wants to understand the issue. And there hasn't been specific examples on this thread yet. Tell me what -- every time you choose to rebuild an upstream's configure -- do you always notice which specific version of autoconf the upstream used originally? Well, unless you always do so, it's very easy for something to go unnoticed by you. A counter point is how many upstream maintainers look at what version of autoconf they're building tarballs with? My guess is that these days very, very few do and it's not causing problems - perhaps autoconf isn't so broken anymore? (Bear in mind, I used to advocate what you're advocating, but it's looking like the situation has changed) Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 07:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: libguestfs is a case in point - the Debian maintainer builds it from git using some unknown version of autoconf, and I build it on RHEL and This is a rare exception. No, it's a rare exception for project to keep autotools generated files in version control. Yet people still build lots of projects from version control on a variety of different distros using different versions of autotools. I'm also making the point that maintainers build tarballs without paying much attention to the versions of autotools they're using. For each project you can cite that releases their sources this way, I'll be happy to cite twenty others who don't. Feel free to come up with your largest list. I'll just go through Sourceforge, and grab the first x*20 projects, in response. Please tone down the hyperbole. I'd be very interested to hear of a specific case where a recent autotools update has broken old tarball builds. If that was in fact common, and we had some examples, I'd agree with you. Given that automake's make dist automatically rolls Makefile.in, and configure into the tarball (together with a bunch of other stuff), one has to go out of their way to leave them out of the tarball. Yes, that autotools generated files are distributed in tarballs is a clear autotools design decision. But why? Is it: a) because the autotools maintainers feel it is unreliable to have people building from the tarball to re-run autotools or b) because the autotools maintainers feel it is inconvenient to require people build from tarballs to have autotools installed I suspect (b) is primary reason, especially in recent times. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 22:17 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why is it bad to patch configure.ac and rerun the autotools stuff? I used to avoid re-running autotools in rpm builds because I worried that a future autotools update would subtly screw up the build - e.g. disabling a previously enabled feature in the built package. These were in the days that upstream maintainers distributing tarballs had to be very careful what versions of autotools they used - e.g. I recall something like GNOME folks using Fedora's version of autoconf 2.52 because upstream 2.52 had broken utf-8 support[1]. Perhaps those days are gone now and autotools are much more reliable. If upstream people who run make dist don't pay much attention to what autotools versions they are using, then why should Fedora packagers care either? Cheers, Mark. [1] - I could be totally wrong on the details, but I do remember Owen (who started this thread) pointing out the problem to GNOME maintainers -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
Hi Jim, On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 23:49 +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:50 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 09:02 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Owen Taylor wrote: I was rather surprised to see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-6661 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-6076 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6370 Where the automake was upgraded to 1.11 for F9, F10, and F11. Upgrade on F-11 (and F-10) was requested because there are some projects (like gnulib/coreutils) which really need automake 1.11 for build in latest stable versions. Is there a bug report with details of this gnulib/coreutils request? Not really, it was just direct irl/irc/mail communication with automake/autoconf fedora maintainerscomaintainers. First request was only about 1.10b in rawhide (after f-12 split) - as I needed at least 1.10b to build coreutils-7.4 there (otherwise only with an ugly hack). Okay, but what exactly are we talking about here? What does gnulib or coreutils need that 1.10 doesn't have? Hi Mark, I think it's great that automake-1.11 made it into F11 and F10. Even for F9, it's seems worthwhile. The features in automake-1.11 that I've found worthwhile (in addition to 3 years worth of improved robustness, portability and performance, fewer bugs, etc.) are enabled by these two lines from coreutils' configure.ac: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([1.11 dist-xz color-tests parallel-tests]) AM_SILENT_RULES([yes]) Thanks for the details, that's exactly the kind of information I was trying to squeeze out of this discussion :-) IMHO, if this had been in a bug report and referenced in the update description, this discussion would purely be about whether it makes sense to do this in F-9 (and F-10, maybe). The issue here is weighing up the benefit of a 1.11 update to developers using F-9 and F-10 versus the risk of breaking existing working builds. It sounds automake has improved its level of compatibility between releases, so the risk is relatively low. Even still, I'd be inclined to say that developers who want 0.11 should install it themselves or update to F-11. A rebase of an important package in three stable releases, which is expected to break rebuilds of some packages, should surely have more justification than an empty update description, no associated bugzilla and claims that Jim Meyering needs some unspecified new features. I've been lamenting the 3-year-old version of automake in Fedora for years, This 3 year old issue is upstream's fault for taking that long to ship a new release. 0.11 is 6 weeks old, so Fedora hadn't much choice in the matter. The timing vis-a-vis F-11 looks like it was unfortunate. Could we have included a 0.10b in F-11 GA and update to 0.11 in an update? That would have given the new code more Fedora testing. Thanks again, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 00:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Run make V=1 if you want the verbose output you're used to. This will be REQUIRED in Fedora for packages using this feature Yes, it's a good idea for packages to do this, as it makes the koji logs much more useful. We do this for qemu builds, for example. (The syntax was copied from the kernel AFAIK) Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Why did it install PAE kernel in F11
Hello, I had installed fedora 11 on a 32 bit machine from scratch. I had installed using defaults. running uname -r gives: 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE it installed a PAE kernel (kernel-PAE-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686). On this machine there was a regular, non PAE kernel on previous installation of fedora 10. My question is: why all of a sudden with F11 it gives this PAE kernel ? is it OK? should I remove this kernel and install a new, non PAE one? regards, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 09:02 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Owen Taylor wrote: I was rather surprised to see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-6661 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-6076 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6370 Where the automake was upgraded to 1.11 for F9, F10, and F11. Upgrade on F-11 (and F-10) was requested because there are some projects (like gnulib/coreutils) which really need automake 1.11 for build in latest stable versions. Is there a bug report with details of this gnulib/coreutils request? Thanks, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:50 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 09:02 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Owen Taylor wrote: I was rather surprised to see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-6661 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-6076 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6370 Where the automake was upgraded to 1.11 for F9, F10, and F11. Upgrade on F-11 (and F-10) was requested because there are some projects (like gnulib/coreutils) which really need automake 1.11 for build in latest stable versions. Is there a bug report with details of this gnulib/coreutils request? Not really, it was just direct irl/irc/mail communication with automake/autoconf fedora maintainerscomaintainers. First request was only about 1.10b in rawhide (after f-12 split) - as I needed at least 1.10b to build coreutils-7.4 there (otherwise only with an ugly hack). Okay, but what exactly are we talking about here? What does gnulib or coreutils need that 1.10 doesn't have? A rebase of an important package in three stable releases, which is expected to break rebuilds of some packages, should surely have more justification than an empty update description, no associated bugzilla and claims that Jim Meyering needs some unspecified new features. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 14:05 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: But is this the type of upgrade that makes sense in general? It seems to me that we should be very conservative in upgrading build tools, especially in maintenance mode distributions like F9 and F10. Agreed, and if there was a truly compelling reason for the upgrade, one would expect it to be mentioned in the update description. See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_update_guidelines Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
F11 SELinux Squid port 2082
Hi It is impossible for me to reach a web page that uses port 2082 through squid as SELinux keeps blocking it. If i bypass squid i can reach the web page. How do i configure SELinux to allow port 2082 ? Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Dolphin tabs F11
Hi How do i get the tabs i have open in dolphin to stay there when i reboot ? Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum conf file to skip package install
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:33 AM, stangr...@q.com wrote: On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:10:13 +0200 Mark Panen mark.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi If i don't want to upgrade a package what is the path to the yum conf file which allows this ? Mark The yum.conf file is in /etc, so it would be /etc/yum.conf Do man yum.conf and look at the exclude option. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I don't want to type yum exclude package update everytime, i want to exclude the package permanently. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Yum conf file to skip package install
Hi If i don't want to upgrade a package what is the path to the yum conf file which allows this ? Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Feedback requested for: fedoreproject.org
Hi, In a quest to find out what the current state is of fedoraproject.org is i decided to just go to this list first and request for feedback on fedoraproject.org. -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Feedback requested for: fedoreproject.org (ignore other incomplete post)
// i guess i did some key combo that mailed the previous message incomplete. Sorry for that. Hi, In a quest to find out what the current state is of fedoraproject.org is i decided to just go to this list first and request for feedback on fedoraproject.org. The question is: What do you really like about this site: http://www.fedoraproject.org ? If it where gone what would you miss? I hope you could take the time to tell me what you like. a why is not even required but would be nice to know. Thank you for your time, Mark. -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Unable to boot F11 with multiple drives on system
Hi I was given the option to put my boot loader on sda1 amongst others even though F11 had chosen a PATA drive as default for grub. My other SATA drives where also shown. Anyway i choose sda1 like it works with another OS and when i rebooted F11 after the install i came to the grub prompt. The rescue function tells me /sbin/grub-install cannot be found when i ran grub-install /dev/sda Any help please Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
installing google chrome on Fedora 9 - 64 bit
Hello, Does anyone have any success with installing google chrome (beta) on Fedora 9 - 64 bit ? I appreciate if he can share the link to the rpm + tips on installation. I downloaded google chrome rpm (both the 64 bit and the 32 bit) from this site but got errors when installing it: http://www.benkevan.com/upload/software/ I tried both with --nodes and without it. rpm -ivh google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.x86_64.rpm error: Failed dependencies: rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) = 4.4.2-1 is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.x86_64 --- rpm -ivh google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.x86_64.rpm --nodeps Preparing...### [100%] 1:google-chrome-unstable ### [100%] error: unpacking of archive failed: cpio: Bad magic --- 32 bit: === rpm -ivh google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386.rpm --nodeps Preparing...### [100%] 1:google-chrome-unstable ### [100%] error: unpacking of archive failed: cpio: Bad magic --- rpm -ivh google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libnspr4.so.0d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.10) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.12) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.2) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.3) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.4) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.5) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.6) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnss3.so.1d(NSS_3.9) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libnssutil3.so.1d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libplc4.so.0d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libplds4.so.0d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libsmime3.so.1d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libssl3.so.1d is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libssl3.so.1d(NSS_3.2) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 libssl3.so.1d(NSS_3.4) is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) = 4.4.2-1 is needed by google-chrome-unstable-3.0.183.1-1.i386 Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: No video -- anaconda or live -- 8800GTX
.. Original Message ... On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:53:21 +0100 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/06/09 18:46, Jake Peavy wrote: All, Was going to put F11 on my Dell XPS710, but neither Anaconda installer (on x86_64 installation DVD) nor x86 LiveUSB bring up video. Did you try basic mode Xdriver=vesa on the dvd, Frank I ran into what sounds like tha same anaconda issue on an older Dell laptop and the xdriver=vesa option worked like a charm. I'm now running into an error when the upgrade finally starts. After it tells you what discs are needed for the upgrade it tries to copy either the install image or new kernel (I can't remember what it says) and pops up an error dialog. The suggestion is that the system may be out of space but that isn't the problem (30+ GB available). I looked through the traceback for a minute but didn't see anything obvious. I'll dig into it more this evening. -- Mark C. Allman, PMP -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- (From my Treo 700p) Consulting IT Project/Program Management: on-time, on-budget -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 11 Multimedia
Hi Seem to be missing something this time round, can't for the life of me find a how to on google to set up multimedia on Fedora 11. Can anyone help please ? Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
I don't have colors in Midnight commander editor
Hello, I have fedora release 9 . I installed mc (midnight commander) by yum install mc. When I open xml files or c source files or java with mc editor (by pressing F4) I don't see any colors. (I mean colors of some keywords , like int (for c source file), lines starting with or -- for xml, etc.) On other fedora machines I **do** see colors with mc. Any ideas what can be the reason ? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: trying to figure out fixes for CVE-2005-2974 and CVE-2005-3350
http://lwn.net/Articles/333760/ has links to the updates and such (and a comment from a reader wondering just what I am asking) ... Hello Jake; Tomas Hoger has just posted the details of this issue in the bug, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=CVE-2005-3350#c7 Thanks, Mark -- Mark J Cox / Director, Red Hat Security Response -- Fedora-security-list mailing list Fedora-security-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-security-list
Re: Viewing tabs in an editor in fedora 10
suvayu ali, Thnks, but this is **not ** what I meant. You are right in what you say about gedit. However, I mean when pressing the tab key. (and not tabs of windows. Any idea if it is possible to see it ? With vi, these tabs are shows as ^I (when running :set list) Rgs, Mark On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:17 AM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/20 Mark Ryden markr...@gmail.com: Hello, I am looking for viewing tabs in an editor in fedora 10. I know that this can be done with vim and vi (with :set list). (If I remember correctly, also with emacs). However, I tried to achieve this task with other editors (like jedit/gedit/kate) and could not. Any ideas if it is possible with other editors than vi/vim/emacs ? I believe that is the default behaviour for gedit. If a file is already open in gedit and you open another file, it opens in a new tab. However I can't comment on any of the other editors you mention. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Viewing tabs in an editor in fedora 10
Hello, I am looking for viewing tabs in an editor in fedora 10. I know that this can be done with vim and vi (with :set list). (If I remember correctly, also with emacs). However, I tried to achieve this task with other editors (like jedit/gedit/kate) and could not. Any ideas if it is possible with other editors than vi/vim/emacs ? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: So what's the deal with Xen?
Taylor, Tim wrote: You might want to take a look at xenner. This is a utility that can run a Xen DomU vm on the KVM hypervisor. - Tim Again, I'm still screwed. It doesn't matter if there is an emulator for Xen on KVM if you don't have hardware that supports KVM. Hence, my previous post. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
files which start with a dot and firefox gmail
Hello, When I am using gmail in firefox and I am trying to attach files , I cannot see files which start with a dot (for example, pressing attach a file and navigating to /root does not show files like .tcshrc). Is there a way to overcome it (except of course making another copy of the file which starts with a dot)? Rgs, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Treo 755p goes into boot cycle when connected to F10 over USB
I have a Palm Treo 755p. Up until recently, I could connect the Treo to my Dell D830 running F10 and hotsync, or I could run Mobile Stream's USBModem app on the Treo and establish a ppp internet connection. Recently, when I make the USB connection from the phone to the laptop, the phone goes into an immediate, endless boot cycle. I know this could be the result of a million different things, but I was wondering if anybody out there had any suggestions. (2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686 #1 SMP) I have tried all sorts of permutations of hotsyncing and modem usage over USB or bluetooth with various computers. I can hotsync the phone with my D830 over bluetooth, but I haven't figured how to do the bluetooth ppp configuration. USBmodem and hotsync work over USB on an Asus Z71a running XP. If I boot the Asus into F9 and connect the phone over USB, the phone doesn't reboot, but the pppd script doesn't run to completion. I also have an eee 1000, and I see either the phone rebooting or just the pppd failure, depending on what distribution I'm running. I prefer USB, but I would try Bluetooth for dial-up, if somebody could point me towards good directions. I would even change the distro on my Asus or eee if that was a solution. Thanks in advance, Mark -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.
Wendell Nichols wrote: I just installed FC10 on my home server. I access it via xrdp. The first time I tried to install some packages via the graphical package manager it told me that I was not using a local console, and exited. This machine doesn't have a console! How are we supposed to administer headless servers? wcn Like all of us do who admin linux boxes. From the command line. 'yum install' and yum update is your friend. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.
Wendell Nichols wrote: I just installed FC10 on my home server. I access it via xrdp. The first time I tried to install some packages via the graphical package manager it told me that I was not using a local console, and exited. This machine doesn't have a console! How are we supposed to administer headless servers? wcn And on a side note, you can also use vnc to do GUI type things like installing apps and updates as well. I do recommend though that you learn the command line, at least /some/ of it. You'll find it's much faster to do things and things can be done from the CLI on slow (ie mobile phone, dial-up) links that would kill a remote GUI program. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SPAM]Re: Remote administration of FC 10 headless servers.
Tim Waugh wrote: Mark Haney wrote: And on a side note, you can also use vnc to do GUI type things like installing apps and updates as well. No, this hasn't worked for me on Fedora 10 for a while (yes, bugzilla report filed). Is it actually working for you? Are you using the 'vncserver' initscript to start the VNC session? Tim. */ Yes and yes. It works perfectly for me. I've had no trouble at all. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Email Application for Fedora
cibertazzi2001 wrote: Try openoffice is better that office of microsoft Em Dom, 2009-04-19 às 14:47 +0600, Adeel Akbar escreveu: Hi, In windows I used Microsoft office Outlook 2003 for emails correspondence and now I installed Fedora 10. Can any one tell me any that which application I used in Fedora for Emails which support all functionality of MS Office outlook and also having support to import all my previous emails? Adeel Akbar Please don't top post. And please make the reply relevant to the question. Personally, I would suggest Evolution, it's the most 'Outlook-like' mail client I know of. I don't know what 'all' functionality in Outlook you want exactly, almost any mail client supports the same basic feature set, calendaring, task management, etc. -- Felicem natalem MMDCCLXII Roma Aeterna Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
Hello, Still I am a little bewildered. I googled and read about it; still here is my dillema: there are 2 options which I consider: 1) running gparted from a Linux LiveCD, freeing space from the vista partition. then rebooting, making sure window vista can start, and then installing Linux on the freed space. 2) resizing while installing Linux. Suppose I have the rescue window CDs. which options is better ? Regards, Mark On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 16:17 +0300, Mark Ryden wrote: Hello, I have a new Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I want to install Linux on it while keeping vista on it (though I rarely intend to use Vista, keeping vista is a MUST for me). So I want it to be dual boot. There is one partition on the disk, with 160GB. I consider using gparted livecd for it. In fact, I did not used the There is a way to Windows Vista except booting once into the system, so most of the disk is free. I know how to use the resize feature of gparted. I intend to resize the partition to 20 GB and then create a new parition in the free space which will be created. On the new paritition I intend to install the Linux. My questions are: 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ? 2) I saw in the web in some post : run: #ntfsfix -V and then: if you don't see version 2 don't use this version of gparted on Vista NTFS volumes 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus: ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1 Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same (but not from the GUI)? gparted should work but things to consider... Fedora 10 installer can resize NTFS partition on the fly when installing. Gparted might be a bit easier (assuming that you make a boot CD). If you have used the Windows for any length of time, defrag first. Leave any utility partitions alone, i.e. re-installation partitions etc. so if necessary, you could reinstall Windows. After resizing, Windows will run a full repair on the next boot up, be prepared to allow the time. Windows XP seems to require at least 12 Gigabytes with current SP3 and Vista likely needs more. 20 should be OK. If space is not an issue, 24 or 32 Gigabytes might be safer, especially if your need to use Windows increases. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the day. http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=FM I can listen to it live just fine with Totem. How could I record it so that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ? Thanks LG Have you tried streamripper? I've not used it in a long time, I'm not even sure it's actively developed any more. (If it is, I apologize to the devs...) -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
Hello, I have a new Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I want to install Linux on it while keeping vista on it (though I rarely intend to use Vista, keeping vista is a MUST for me). So I want it to be dual boot. There is one partition on the disk, with 160GB. I consider using gparted livecd for it. In fact, I did not used the There is a way to Windows Vista except booting once into the system, so most of the disk is free. I know how to use the resize feature of gparted. I intend to resize the partition to 20 GB and then create a new parition in the free space which will be created. On the new paritition I intend to install the Linux. My questions are: 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ? 2) I saw in the web in some post : run: #ntfsfix -V and then: if you don't see version 2 don't use this version of gparted on Vista NTFS volumes 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus: ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1 Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same (but not from the GUI)? Regards, Mark Ryden -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
