Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.
nodata writes: Am 2010-01-06 18:17, schrieb Matthew Booth: On 06/01/10 17:00, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:36 -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote: On 1/6/10 11:07 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: PGA. Here's the challenge. To reply to this mail, I hit control-shift-r in one evo window, and evo opened a new window for me to compose into. Get it? I typed into one window, and then started typing into another, and that's exactly what was desired. If the window manager suppressed focus changes on the basis of you were just typing into some other window, this must be a focus steal, then the new compose window would have mapped unfocused, and I'd have to have alt-tabbed to get to it. So if you can come up with an algorithm that can reliably classify focus change requests as stealing or not, then great. I'd go with don't let a different app steal focus. Windows for the same currently focused app are allowed to. This works pretty well under Mac OS X. Might depend on some of the stuff being done by the gnome-shell folks though, to be able to group windows together as belonging to the same process/application to be able to do it Right under a Linux DE... Now make that work for the (not uncommon) case of clicking a link in evo or control-clicking one in gnome-terminal and expecting firefox to pop forward with that page. There is one situation where the absolute of $SUBJECT is required: password windows. I end up typing passwords wholly or partially into other windows on a reasonably regular basis because of this. Matt This is my primary motivation for bringing this up again. I either start typing a password into a dialog then something steals focus and the password is in cleartext, or or the other way round: I start typing something in one apps, a password dialog pops up, and I end up typing non-passwords there. Ugh. Dangerous and not good. This must be solvable, not just for password entry. I think this is an application's responsibility. An application should properly specified when it pops up a window whether it should take user input focus. If something improperly steals focus from another application, I would consider that an application bug, pgpbTB7FnphN1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?
Alan Cox writes: A modern PC is rather good at doing RAID in software and PCI Express fixes the main bottleneck of RAID1 in software. Its also generally true that a desktop PC has lots and lots of spare CPU cycles to use for RAID work. Also, with the right hardware, failed drives can be swapped without shutting the server down. AFAIK it can only be done with SCSI drives, but with SATA hardware being supported by the scsi subsystem, it'll probably work with SATA drives too. pgpM3NCt1zUqA.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Clean install of Fedora 12 will not bring up login screen after upgrade
John Nissley writes: I did a clean installation of Fedora 12 from the CD today and the first boot was fine. I could log into the computer and get the graphical interface. I then did a yum upgrade and 500 MB later the upgrade was finished. I then rebooted the computer and now the boot gets stuck at the f that looks like infinity which is just before the login screen would display. I can boot into single user mode and also get into text mode but the graphical mode will not give me the login screen. I saw that there was not a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file so I ran Xorg -configure to create one but that did not help either. Any ideas on what could be causing this? Boot into text mode. Log in on the console, run startx and see what happens: 1) If you get bounced back to the terminal, save a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, then look inside, for clues. 2) If the display hangs, try to switch to another VT using ALT-F2, or ALT-F3. Save a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Ditto. 3) If all else fails, do the three-fingered salute, reboot into text mode, log in to the console, then save a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log, then look inside, for clues. Ditto. pgpeLPzK4ZBAi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: control-C and yum update
Paul Allen Newell writes: A quick question which is hopefully just an education request ... While reinstalling f12 on a machine that I messed up, I was following all my notes and directions and reached the point where the install was successful and it was time to update. I did a su -l and then typed yum update. I realized I had forgotten something and immediately did a control-C in the terminal that I had executed the yum update. To my surprise, it ignored it until it got to the first confirm and then proceeded to kill the process. No problem as the update was stopped but ... I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. Probably because if you interrupt packages in the middle of updating, you have an excellent chance of FUBARing your entire system. This has been a long standing problem with rpm. If you interrupt a long update, you'll end up with both the old and the new version of affected packages installed. That's always fun to clean up. Don't do that. pgpvWl9093Y1T.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where did my penguins go?
g writes: Richard Shaw wrote: try adding a VESA mode, something like vga=... I'm not sure what resolution you want to run but try vga=ask the first time and pick the one you like the most. If you're happy with it change the parameter to vga=0xmode. I found out the hard way that you need to put 0x on the front of whichever mode you choose. either a hex value or a decimal value may be passed. 0x is used if you pass a hex value, else value passed will be taken as being a decimal value. some basic resolution codes, in decimal, are: colors bits 640x480 800×600 1024×768 1152×864 1280×1024 1600×1200 2568 vga=769 vga=771 vga=773 vga=353 vga=775vga=796 32K0vga=784 vga=787 vga=790 vga=354 vga=793vga=797 65K0 16 vga=785 vga=788 vga=791 vga=355 vga=794vga=798 16M7 24 vga=786 vga=789 vga=792 vga=795 vga=799 Maybe, maybe not. I have several laptops here. Each one produces a different list of possible VGA modes. Your actual VGA modes depend solely on your video BIOS. I looked, and I was unable to find any way to obtain a list of supported video modes from userspace. The boot time prompt is the only time yu see them. pgpcDBh65XhEH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
Bob Goodwin writes: On 28/12/09 20:10, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's a kernel boot parameter, append it at the end of the kernel line in grub.conf Another thing that I've noticed -- if you have a leftover /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the previous Fedora release, rename xorg.conf and restart, letting X start with a default configuration. I haven't yet fully verified it, but even if I boot with the unmodified kernel boot line, after removing xorg.conf, it looks like power management also starts working. . I tried in both the grub GUI and /boot/grub/grub.conf. In neither case did the screen blank after five minutes as it is set to do. title Omega 12.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root noiswmd LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us --nomodeset You did not specify nomodeset. You specified --nomodeset. Remove the dashes. pgpZhRL6JvFEd.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
Bob Goodwin writes: On 29/12/09 07:14, Sam Varshavchik wrote: You did not specify nomodeset. You specified --nomodeset. Remove the dashes. Ok, I had another go at it, let the computer run that way while I had some breakfast, at least half an hour, but it did not blank the screen. title Omega 12.1 Fedora Remix (2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/vg_box6-lv_root noiswmd LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us nomodeset initrd /initramfs-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64.img Well, you'll just have to file a bug then, and provide your video hardware details. pgpxcIAJvwwzZ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
Bob Goodwin writes: On 27/12/09 20:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: After updating to FC12, the monitor on one of my servers no longer turned off when the console was idle. This wasn't the end of the world, so I didn't give this much importance. This weekend I had some extra time to spare, and I've now determined that if I boot with nomodeset, the monitor properly goes into powersave mode. That seems to be the only difference. Everything works fine either way, except that by default DPMS does not work automatically. I thought that, perhaps, with the oddball video card on this older server (mach64 chipset) DPMS is not implemented when the video card is in VESA mode, but I can run 'xset dpms force off', and the monitor goes into powersave mode immediately. Is this a bug, or, despite the fact that DPMS is apparently working, in VESA mode, this may not be supported on my hardware? This F-12 desktop computer never shuts down the monitor either, I've checked the screen saver settings several times and it's set to five minutes, should just blank the screen to black, the preview check works, I even switched from xfce to gnome and see the same setting. The monitor itself offers no feature to blank the screen when idle, I just checked the OSD menu looking for that, a Dell LCD. It worked as expected on all earlier Fedoras. If running 'xset dpms force off' puts your monitor into powersave mode immediately, and if you boot with 'nomodeset', and that makes powersave work for you again automatically, then you have the same bug. After pondering this, since 'xset dpms force off' works to put the monitor into powersave mode, then this has to be a bug. I just need to figure out what to file a bug against: gnome-power-manager, x.org, or kernel. pgpQvLbrz4xRd.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
Bob Goodwin writes: On 28/12/09 17:52, Sam Varshavchik wrote: xset dpms force off If running 'xset dpms force off' puts your monitor into powersave mode immediately, and if you boot with 'nomodeset', and that makes powersave work for you again automatically, then you have the same bug. After pondering this, since 'xset dpms force off' works to put the monitor into powersave mode, then this has to be a bug. I just need to figure out what to file a bug against: gnome-power-manager, x.org, or kernel. Yes when I do xset dpms force off The screen goes black which is what it should do if the screen saver worked.. To do nomodeset I will have to reboot is suppose but not sure how to apply that, startx --nomodeset perhaps or do I have to do it in grub? Yes, you say boot with it. Not sure where to put it in grub. It's a kernel boot parameter, append it at the end of the kernel line in grub.conf Another thing that I've noticed -- if you have a leftover /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the previous Fedora release, rename xorg.conf and restart, letting X start with a default configuration. I haven't yet fully verified it, but even if I boot with the unmodified kernel boot line, after removing xorg.conf, it looks like power management also starts working. pgp5AgIxqa8Ig.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Monitor doesn't turn go into powersave
After updating to FC12, the monitor on one of my servers no longer turned off when the console was idle. This wasn't the end of the world, so I didn't give this much importance. This weekend I had some extra time to spare, and I've now determined that if I boot with nomodeset, the monitor properly goes into powersave mode. That seems to be the only difference. Everything works fine either way, except that by default DPMS does not work automatically. I thought that, perhaps, with the oddball video card on this older server (mach64 chipset) DPMS is not implemented when the video card is in VESA mode, but I can run 'xset dpms force off', and the monitor goes into powersave mode immediately. Is this a bug, or, despite the fact that DPMS is apparently working, in VESA mode, this may not be supported on my hardware? pgpuLVkiWveGI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnome feedback when adjusting the display brightness
After updating the kernel to 2.6.31.9, I was pleasantly surprised to see that my laptop's ACPI keys for adjusting the display brightness are now working, for the first time ever. On another laptop, whose display brightness ACPI keys have worked for a while, there's a large icon that pops up on the Gnome desktop when I adjust the display brightness level. It sort of looks like a big lightbulb, with a slider underneath that scrolls horizontally, when I change the screen's brightness level. On this laptop, the lightbulb does not pop up, only the display brightness changes. The only difference that I can think of is that the other one is running compiz (and the big lightbulb comes up as a semi-opaque overlay over the desktop), and this laptop's video hardware does not have accelerated support, so no compiz here. Would that be it -- just curious. pgp7uYB9sruFP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox/Flash print problem -
Bob Goodwin writes: This is an updated F-12 computer, in fact I have two and both have the same problem printing from flash in Firefox. When I ask it to print the menu comes up allowing me to select the printer and that accepts my selection, but no matter which of three printers I select it only prints to the default printer designated in system-config-printer! Crossword puzzles collected as .pdf files print to whatever printer I select. Printing from the command line works normally too. Any suggestions on correcting this are welcome. In about:config, check the print.postscript.print_command and print.print_command settings. If something is set for them, reset them to their default values. pgp32h0miEorz.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM and DEB compatibility
Rallias UberNerd writes: I recently took the time to make a really cool special self-made distro of Linux. However, I want to be able to use both RPM servers and DEB servers to update things with. I don't wish to use the one special piece of software allready out their to turn RPM's into DEB's, because then I can only use DEB servers to update easily, and I want both to have equal precidence (the higher version wins out). Am I being impossible or is their a way to do this? Basically, I am wanting to have the shell determine the version of the software installed and use the newer version, I suppose. I am currently using BASH, but have SH, KSH, and CSH installed on my system. RPMs and DEBs are fundamentally incompatible. There are various tools which convert an existing package from one format to another. However, even the best tools cannot do anything if a package has a dependency on some system library of a different version, and I know of no tool to directly install packages of either format, seemlessly, on the host server, and resolve dependencies from hybrid package sources. pgp88FNNT78of.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Detecting how Apps are called.
Jim writes: Is there a command you can run like tail -f or what ever, to see where a Application is called from. Running a application that I can tell where it is started or run from. Like when I plug in a SD card what and where is it started from. I know this Question sounds confusing , but I'm not really sure how to ask it. I think that you're looking for /proc/PID/exe. pgp90N6v3wvpO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: softraid-aware partition editing
Bruno Wolff III writes: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 23:26:29 -0500, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: 1) Does an ext3 partition running on top of a RAID-1 layer look any different on disk than a native ext3 partition? There's obviously a raid flag shown by parted, that comes from somewhere, but from parted's perspective, is a non-RAID-1 ext3 partition any different than a RAID-1 partition? In other words, if I tell parted to resize a RAID-1 ext3 partition, am I going to get mangled results? The raid header version that is currently used by default in Fedora is at the end of the partition. So the file systems look like normal file systems. If gparted is detecting raid, I would guess that it is getting this from the partition type byte. So the question then becomes is if you resize the partition, is gparted smart enough to relocate the raid signature, together with the rest of the filesystem. 2) Does creating a partition of Linux raid autodetect is all I need to do in order to succesfully add it to a degraded RAID-1 array, and have the array rebuilt and synced up? You want to do something like: mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/sdb1 using the correct device names for the raid array and the device you want added. The part about reassembling arrays, that I know. My concern is whether using parted on a raid partition is going to mess it up. pgpOA3EN9RFw4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 - Anyone using mplayer + vdpau?
Jorge Fábregas writes: Hello everyone, I just moved to Fedora 12 (finally) and I enabled the RPM Fusion repo in order to install the nvidia driver plus mplayer (and all its dependencies) in order to see if I could finally use mplayer with vdpau (in order to offload h.264 playback to the GPU). Unfortunately when I play some h.264 material I get: [vdpau] Could not open dynamic library libvdpau.so.1 I chechked all the packages that were installed (after requesting the nvidia driver): kmod-nvidia-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE-190.42-1.fc12.8.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-190.42-5.fc12.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-190.42-5.fc12.i686 nvidia-xconfig-1.0-1.fc12.i686 kmod-nvidia-PAE-190.42-1.fc12.8.i686 nvidia-settings-1.0-3.2.fc12.i686 ...but none of them provide this file. Is there a way around this? ...before going the mplayer compilation route :( Ummm… Did you try yum install libvdpau? pgp9hkTapI80t.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
softraid-aware partition editing
I have Fedora installed on (mdadm based) RAID-1 partitions. There are two physical hard drives, identically partition table, with the corresponding partitions on each drive assembled into a RAID-1 array with mdadm. This includes /boot, /, and all other partitions. I want to resize/move my /dev/md partitions. It's not clear to me how well gparted is aware of RAID1. gparted shows me the individual hard drives, and the partition layout of each mirrored drive. It does list a raid flag for each partition, but it's not clear to me if I tell it to resize an existing partition, it will mirror the operation on the other partition mirror. I am considering the following approach: * Degrade all the partitions. Remove each partition on one of the drives, call it drive B, from its array. * Use gparted to rearrange the partitions on the other drive, drive A. * Take the new partition layout on the A drive, and create the identical partition layout on the B drive. * Use mdadm --add to add each partition on the B drive to its array. Or is there a better way to accomplish this? If not, I am not clear on a couple of details: 1) Does an ext3 partition running on top of a RAID-1 layer look any different on disk than a native ext3 partition? There's obviously a raid flag shown by parted, that comes from somewhere, but from parted's perspective, is a non-RAID-1 ext3 partition any different than a RAID-1 partition? In other words, if I tell parted to resize a RAID-1 ext3 partition, am I going to get mangled results? 2) Does creating a partition of Linux raid autodetect is all I need to do in order to succesfully add it to a degraded RAID-1 array, and have the array rebuilt and synced up? pgpRiehwdIZLc.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Simon Schneebeli writes: Hello all, After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect to the internet. Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a connection. Define ping works. Define manage to establish a network connection. Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information. Which one exactly? The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting from Firefox. pgp6NK7L1AwJi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
The Phantom Update
A tiny orange octogon keeps popping up on my toolbar. Mousing over it brings up a tooltip bubble: There is 1 update available. Clicking on the icon runs gpk-update-viewer, which immediately tells me that no updates are available. Closing packagekit brings the orange octogon back. This has been going on for about three days now. pgp5PKqFwJDjH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell
Ian Malone writes: Yes, it does look more polished the way it is now, but what used to be really obvious (especially to someone who has always run dual boot set-ups), that you can boot an earlier kernel, is now an obscure piece of knowledge. Suggestions: 1. The grub boot screen should have an explicit message to this effect. 2. (More difficult to implement), autodetect failures to boot and explicitly offer the user the alternatives. (A la Windows, not everything they do is bad.) I think there's a way to install a one-time only grub configuration file, for the next boot. I'm not sure how it's done now, but I think suspend to disk worked this way before, to have grub boot some loader that restores the suspended image into ram. If restore failed, the next boot loaded the usual kernel. The kernel update can do that, and a start up script that runs at the end of the boot cycle then commit the permanent configuration file, at the tail end of the next boot. pgpX7Il87xAs5.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC12 , DNS Problems
Jim writes: FC12/KDE I'm having DNS problems. I can't get Firefox to goto linuxtoday.com , lxer.com , or rpmfusion.org , but I can goto yahoo.com , foxnews.com . I have to do in Firefox a about:config and inject network.dns.disableIPv6 to get all websites. I can't use Konqueror WebBrowser and goto linuxtoday.com , lxer.com , or rpmfusion.org, But I can goto yahoo.com , foxnews.com . Doing a http://www. doesn't make any difference in both browsers. I have to make a /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf file and put prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; to get Konqueror Webbrowser to goto all Websites. I have two other FC12 boxes on this local network and have no problems like this. What is the problem in FC12 ? Go into network configuration (system-config-network). Open the properties tab for your network device. If Enable IPv6 configuration for this device is checked, turn it off. pgpczrZk5KbW4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell
Chris writes: After running 12 for some weeks now, I allowed yum to install the newest kernel (well, as of Friday of course). all seemed to go just fine until I rebooted. All the machine will do is continue to reboot itself over and over again. I reinstalled and applied only updates other then 3 that were particular to the new kernel and all went well there. Rebooted just fine. I thought - why not try the remaining 3 and lets see if for some reason the others might be causing this effect. That didn't seem to help - again, after allowing yum to install the new kernel, it sent the machine into reboot hell. The box is only a few years (3) old, it's a Sony Vaio desktop. It's running sata, there is a /boot part of some 200 meg (only 23% full) and the rest of the 400 gig drive is LVM Currently, I tossed on Ubuntu just so I can get some work done however, would really prefer to be back running F12. Any help/ideas would be great. Some time ago, in F9-F10 era, there was a consecutive series of about four kernels that were released that could not boot on one of my machines. Somehow, I managed to survive this traumatic experience without installing a completely different distribution. I waved a magic wand, and continued to boot the last working kernel, until a new one came out that worked on my hardware once more. pgpoDt3aIEW0K.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest Kernel causes reboot hell
Chris writes: On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:06:12 -0500 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Some time ago, in F9-F10 era, there was a consecutive series of about four kernels that were released that could not boot on one of my machines. Somehow, I managed to survive this traumatic experience without installing a completely different distribution. I waved a magic wand, and continued to boot the last working kernel, until a new one came out that worked on my hardware once more. I agree - quoting from Louis Lagendijk; The best way to avoid the problem might be to get grub to display the list of installed (assuming that the original F12 kernel worked for you) and select that kernel to boot from. Change the default line in /etc/grub.conf to automate that. It just occured to me that there may be a large number of people who are completely unaware of the fact that they can easily boot a previous kernel. Some time ago, someone decided to set up grub by default to hide its boot menu, so that it boots without delay. As such, some people may not even know about this option. This is a perfect example of why hiding some complexity from the end user is not always a good idea. pgp8BWvbdINKX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: suggested upgrade path from fc8 to fc12 *OR* isolated kernel upgrade from 2.6.23 to 2.6.32
sting writes: I'm on fedora core 8, and I may have a need to upgrade to the latest, v12, because of an issue I'm encountering (described in some background, below, but my main query is here). Essentially, I'm going to have to either upgrade frin fc8 to fc12 or perform an isolated kernel upgrade from 2.6.23 to 2.6.32 (that may not be without issues). Given a choice between trying to built the current kernel and cram it into such an old distro, versus updating Fedora 8 to Fedora 12, I would choose an upgrade to Fedora 12, without hesitating. 1. If there are any chances that kernel compatibility with certain userland tools could be broken (once the kernel is correctly booting, that is) given the large version jump from 2.6.23 to 2.6.32 (might as well update to latest). For example, would some commands for traffic control (tc) not work anymore? Historically, both the Linux kernel and glibc have a very good track record for backwards compatibility. However, upgrading the entire distro will, of course, end up upgrading your tc binary. Whether or not the tc binary in Fedora 12 is backwards compatible, in all respects, with tc in Fedora 8 is something that I do not know. You can grab the man page for tc in Fedora 12, compare it with what you have in Fedora 8, and draw your own conclusions. 2. If it actually would be simpler safer to just upgrade the distribution? (as long as the paths to the various network scripts haven't changed, mostly around interfaces, VLANs, etc) I'm fairly sure that some of these things have changed. And I'm also quite sure that dealing with that is much easier than dealing with building your own kernel and cramming it into an older distro. In terms of keeping the various tools on the machine compatible with the kernel, I am tempted to go with #2. However, how safe is it to jump directly from fedora core 8 to fedora core 12? I guess most upgrades are tested from FC version N to N+1. I would jump 4 versions directly. Correct. Such upgrade paths are not tested by anyone. I have, previously, upgraded from N to N+2 without any issues. I just did it again, upgrading from F10 to F12 (because I could not upgrade to F11 due to a bug in F11's anaconda). Your probability of success depends solely on how well you've cared for your existing F8 system. If you did not mess with it, if you only installed software using RPM, and used the system's configuration tools, where available, or kept manual editing of various config files to a minimum, you shouldn't have any problems. On the other hand, if you hand-compiled a bunch of stuff; if you routinely grabbed various random tarballs, and went the configure/make/make-install route, spraying untracked files and dependencies all over the filesystem, rather than building proper RPMs, you'll likely to have a major mess on your hands after an upgrade. I do recall that, some time ago, there was a major upgrade to the RPM database format -- a switch to a new major version of the DB back end. Anaconda, on the upgrade path, took care of converting the old format to the new one. I think that happened before F8, but you need to double check. If this happened in F9, I would suggest piecemeal updates. I'm sure you will still easily find F9 images to download and install, the after updating to F9 (presuming that's the release that switched to the new RPM DB format), jump to F12. In either case, after updating to F12, you will need to run 'updatedb', then use 'locate' to find all 'rpmsave' and 'rpmnew' configuration files the upgrade process introduced, then manually reconcile them with the active configuration files. That should be the extent of the manual effort involved in upgrading to F12 from an older version. pgpe3YrngfxAv.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
packagegit authentication
I thought that a week ago packagegit was updated to require authentication before installing all packages, even signed ones. I just ran packagegit to install all current updates, and realized that it didn't prompt me for the root password. I want to change that. I can't find the Security tool in the administration menu which in previous versions of Fedora could be used to configure which actions require authentication. Where did that tool move to? pgpdpMq8u3cXb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: packagegit authentication
Craig White writes: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 07:09 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I thought that a week ago packagegit was updated to require authentication before installing all packages, even signed ones. I just ran packagegit to install all current updates, and realized that it didn't prompt me for the root password. I want to change that. I can't find the Security tool in the administration menu which in previous versions of Fedora could be used to configure which actions require authentication. Where did that tool move to? I think installing updates and installing previously uninstalled packages are different things and packagekit will allow the former but perhaps now, not the latter. You might want to look at the release notes... http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/ specifically the 'Security' section where it talks about PolicyKit which is what I think you are referring to and will give you some clues about editing. In previous versions of Fedora there was a tool in the Administration menu that allowed me to configure authorization. There was a convenient list of all system activities, and whether or not a root password is required. Unless I'm hallucinating, I remember doing it before. I remember once telling the package upgrade tool not to prompt for passwords any more, and when I changed my mind, I found this security tool, found the setting for installing rpms, unchecked it, and the demands for the root passwords, before package installation can proceed, came back. Although this configuration tool was obviously not for the newbies, it allowed for a well document setting of local system security policies. Now, I must manually edit a bunch of files. That looks like a step backwards, to me. pgpaoe98PoW7w.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: After doing a yum update I notice these (W)arnings
Chris writes: Greetings, After doing a yum update I notice these (W)arnings? ** Snip ** Updating : abrt-gui-1.0.0-1.fc12.i686 35/79 Updating : coreutils-7.6-7.fc12.i686 36/79 Installing : kernel-PAE-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 37/79 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module qla2xxx.ko W: Possible missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw for module aic94xx.ko Is this something I need to be concerned about? Only if you have either the QLogic Fibre Channel HBA Driver or the Adaptec aic94xx SAS/SATA driver in your server. Unless you're using these two, this has no impact. And if you did have one of these, it wouldn't already be working for you, since you still don't have the requisite firmware to load, even with your existing kernel. pgpi4gPIAvohH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
I just did a new install on a spare laptop. I chose the Software Development option. Emacs did not get installed. Also, although neither mysql-devel, nor postgresql-devel, nor even libtool-ltdl-devel got installed, I ended up with a huge number of -devel packages, many of whom, from my viewpoint would like have an audience much smaller than emacs' potential audience. Although an argument could be made about mysql and postgresql, I suppose, leaving emacs off is rather depressing, if that accurately represents the contemporary general opinions. pgpwoknvPYcWl.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
Rahul Sundaram writes:
On 11/28/2009 02:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I just did a new install on a spare laptop. I chose the Software
Development option.
Emacs did not get installed.
Also, although neither mysql-devel, nor postgresql-devel, nor even
libtool-ltdl-devel got installed, I ended up with a huge number of
-devel packages, many of whom, from my viewpoint would like have an
audience much smaller than emacs' potential audience.
Although an argument could be made about mysql and postgresql, I
suppose, leaving emacs off is rather depressing, if that accurately
represents the contemporary general opinions.
Why? It's just shows your personal preference for a editor. Emacs is
certainly not needed for software development.
Ok, that's a valid question. So let's see what got installed:
$ rpm -q --queryformat '%{NAME} %{GROUP}\n' -a | fgrep Applications/Editors |
sort
emacs Applications/Editors
emacs-common Applications/Editors
gedit Applications/Editors
nano Applications/Editors
vim-common Applications/Editors
vim-enhanced Applications/Editors
vim-minimal Applications/Editors
I installed emacs myself. So, all I got was gedit, nano, and vi.
I am quite comfortable with either emacs or vi, for different editing needs.
I am sure you can also do software development with nano. But that's quite a
stretch.
Let's say I want to do software development. I make an appropriate selection
when intalling Fedora 12. What editor am I expected to use?
With emacs, I get major modes for C++, Java, Perl, Python, XML, and a bunch
of other things. That's quite a mouthful. The others, in this list, don't
offer much more than notepad in Windows.
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Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development
Debayan Banerjee writes: 2009/11/28 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: Why? It's just shows your personal preference for a editor. Emacs is certainly not needed for software development. Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs have roughly equal user bases, chosing emacs over vim for the Actually, they chose vim over emacs. distribution shows Fedora packagers' personal preference too. I guess both vim and emacs should be available. pgpvhEoGCchDE.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: buffer overflow in system-config-httpd
Robert G. (Doc) Savage writes: system-config-httpd-1.4.6-1.fc12.noarch appears to be badly borked: # system-config-httpd *** buffer overflow detected ***; /usr/bin/python terminated === Backtrace: = ... long backtrace ... 3743809000-374380a000 rw-p 9000 08:02 353257 /usr/lib64/libXcursor.so.1.0.2/usr/share/system-config-httpd/system-config /httpd: line 4: 2922 Aborted (core dumped) /usr/bin/python /usr/share/systemconfig-httpd/ApacheConf.py Has anyone else noticed this and BZ'd it? I don't see a newer version in fedora-testing and development has the same version number. From looking at system-config-httpd, it appears to be a pure Python package. I am unable to find any compiled extensions that this package loads. As such, any resulting segfault in Python must therefore be a Python bug. No pure Python package should be responsible for segfaults in the python interpreter itself. I've got an utterly useless abrt report filed against my pure python package. By utterly useless I mean only the segfault, with no backtrace of any kind whatsoever. I'm tempted to reassign it to python itself. pgpn01YFz0Y3a.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Default keyring for NetworkManager
Marko Vojinovic writes: I simply want to connect to my wireless automatically upon boot and not being asked for any passwords. I have also enabled autologin in kdm in order to get logged in automatically (this works beautifully, btw). I got this to work myself. However, I think that the only way to both autologin from gdm/kdm, and unlock the keyring, is to set an empty password on your keyring. Use seahorse to set a blank password on your keyring. If it won't let you, delete your keyring completely. On the next login you'll be prompted to create one, create it with a blank password. Oh, yes, the keyring password is the same as my login password. However since you're on autologin, you never enter your login password. Since your password is encrypted in the password file, certain inconvenient laws of physics that govern our shared universe make it impossible for any app to automatically obtain your cleartext password, and use it to unlock your keyring. pgpn6retUxeLU.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
Tom Horsley writes: On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:13:38 -0700 Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm perplexed by the posts I am seeing regarding F12 upgrades. Lots of upgrade issues and darn faint praise as far as I can tell ? I installed from scratch on a new partition as I always do, and had virtually no problems. I find f12 to be one of the better releases. My impression is all the trouble starts when you try to upgrade in place. That isn't a process I would ever trust to work anyway :-). One of my servers has been upgraded in place since Fedora 8, or whatever version of Fedora was first built for x86_64. On average, upgrades in place either work fine, or you can't even upgrade at all. The middle grown is very thin. pgpYC2ZX2MM2t.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
Craig White writes: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 18:20 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/25/2009 05:13 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm perplexed by the posts I am seeing regarding F12 upgrades. Lots of upgrade issues and darn faint praise as far as I can tell ? AFAICT, almost all of the upgrade issues are related to preupgrade demands on /boot's sizes ;-) I don't think so. The list reports seem to center on the big scary warning about /boot size but that warning is intentional. In my case, anaconda literally hung at the end of the process and I have seen another report that claimed the same thing. Define 'hung'. Was the scrollbar moving at all. Generally, hangs like that are often indicative of a hardware problem, rather than the software one. Especially the tail end of an Anaconda upgrade, which is disk intensive. pgpa1WiV7YBCy.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
Craig White writes: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 18:14 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Craig White writes: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 18:20 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 11/25/2009 05:13 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm perplexed by the posts I am seeing regarding F12 upgrades. Lots of upgrade issues and darn faint praise as far as I can tell ? AFAICT, almost all of the upgrade issues are related to preupgrade demands on /boot's sizes ;-) I don't think so. The list reports seem to center on the big scary warning about /boot size but that warning is intentional. In my case, anaconda literally hung at the end of the process and I have seen another report that claimed the same thing. Define 'hung'. Was the scrollbar moving at all. Generally, hangs like that are often indicative of a hardware problem, rather than the software one. Especially the tail end of an Anaconda upgrade, which is disk intensive. hung as in... - no disk activity - unable to switch to virtual console ControlAltF2 (# or F3/F4) - no visible activity on screen Virtual console switching is driven by the kernel. I can think of only three possible causes that have this result: 1) A kernel bug 2) A bug in x.org (including the x.org driver for your video card) 3) A hardware problem pgphSO74xqx2f.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Prius Gas Mileage
Jonathan Ryshpan writes: The gas mileage on my Prius has slowly declined from about 40 mpg when I bought it in 2005 (2d hand, it's a 2004 model year) to about 35 mpg today. Has anyone else noticed this? Any ideas why? It could, of course, be just that I'm paying less attention to driving for good gas mileage, or have let the pressure in the tires go down, but I don't think so. Try upgrading your Prius' kernel to the latest version in updates. pgpePCTYie6G7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No Flash/sound in F12 Firefox
Marko Vojinovic writes: firefox-3.5.5-1.fc12.x86_64 libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz Try this one: http://www.verisign.com/domain-name-services/find-registrar/index.html The flash on this page kills my Firefox, with the same plugin version that you're running. Works for me. I am not sure what am I expected to see on the page and how does it fail for you, but I don't see any problem with it. Apparently, the page loaded, I browsed a bit here and there, don't see any problems. Firefox definitely does not crash itself by merely loading this page. Am I supposed to take some specific action to trigger it? Nope. Just loading the page kills Firefox for me. There's some flash on that page. It's definitely the flash plugin because after removing the plugin I can load that page just fine. A contributing factor may be privoxy, which I use. By itself, privoxy is benign, of course, and has no effect,aside from cleaning up all the clutter. One possibility, that occured to me, is the loaded flash code quietly calling back to the mothership, which privoxy blocks; and with no checking of the error path, flash is crashing. pgpTMhHn0jcrw.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No Flash/sound in F12 Firefox
Frank Cox writes:
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 07:01 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
A contributing factor may be privoxy, which I use. By itself, privoxy
is
benign, of course, and has no effect,aside from cleaning up all the
clutter.
One possibility, that occured to me, is the loaded flash code quietly
calling back to the mothership, which privoxy blocks; and with no
checking
of the error path, flash is crashing.
I use privoxy too and, as I posted earlier, that page works for me.
Well, then, I don't know. Putting libflashplayer.so back in, I don't have to
work very hard to make flash bomb out. Even after letting abrt download
about a hundred debuginfos and install them, it does not produce a very
useful backtrace:
Thread 1 (Thread 19484):
#0 0x003669e0ee6b in raise (sig=value optimized out)
at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pt-raise.c:42
resultvar = 0
pid = value optimized out
#1 0x00367aa7752a in nsProfileLock::FatalSignalHandler (signo=4)
at nsProfileLock.cpp:212
unblock_sigs = {__val = {8, 0 repeats 15 times}}
oldact = value optimized out
#2 signal handler called
No symbol table info available.
#3 0x7f6626293683 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#4 0x7f662b2225d8 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
…
80 0x7f662b0eda40 in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#81 0x in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
Current language: auto
The current source language is auto; currently c.
The only clue is that Firefox here dies with SIGILL:
Program terminated with signal 4, Illegal instruction.
#0 0x003669e0ee6b in raise (sig=value optimized out)
at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pt-raise.c:42
42 sig);
As I understand it, flash gets compiled to native code. This is a relatively
old Opteron:
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 15
model : 5
model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 240
stepping: 1
I suspect that some bits of flash code get compiled into x86_64 instructions
that are not implemented on my older CPU. So, although I can watch video on
youboob, apparently most other flash sites get compiled into x86_64 code
that won't work on my older CPU.
Oh well.
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Re: securing mysql server on Fedora/CentOS
Ed Landaveri writes: Ladies, gentleman, I'm trying to secure a mysql server and according to the MySQL certification guide the file system mysql install directories should be owned by the user/group mysql.mysql. Also the server should be started using NOT the root account but the mysql account which easily can be done by modifying /etc/my.cnf file. Assuming that /usr/local is the installation if you did install from a tar ball to this directory this must be done: chown -R mysql.mysql /usr/local chmod u =rwx,go=rx /usr/local Any particular reason you want to brew something yourself, instead of a simple yum install mysql-server, which sets all of this up, for you? pgpDYDyfXgYox.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No Flash/sound in F12 Firefox
Steve Searle writes: Around 12:51am on Monday, November 23, 2009 (UK time), Robert G. (Doc) Savage scrawled: I'm trying to get Flash and sound working in Firefox for F12, I followed the instructions in http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205642 to the letter to install flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-4.x86-64. Afterwards about:plugins in Firefox shows no trace of the 64-bit flash plugin, and Firefox still has no Flash video or sound support. Try this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash#For_x86_64 It worked fine for me. Can someone post a few URLs of websites where the x86_64 flash plugin actually works? I've yet to find one. The x86_64 flash plugin reliably crashes my Firefox on every flash page I try to open, which works fine on i386. So I ended up uninstalling it. pgppqAHDKnmQs.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No Flash/sound in F12 Firefox
Marko Vojinovic writes: On Monday 23 November 2009 01:20:22 Sam Varshavchik wrote: Can someone post a few URLs of websites where the x86_64 flash plugin actually works? For example, http://www.youtube.com/ http://isohunt.com/ http://www.formula1.com/ to name a few. Any site with flash I came across works without any problems here. firefox-3.5.5-1.fc12.x86_64 libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz Heh -- I figured youboob would work. Well, looks like it works for me too, mostly. I just don't use it that much :-) Try this one: http://www.verisign.com/domain-name-services/find-registrar/index.html The flash on this page kills my Firefox, with the same plugin version that you're running. pgp4dIb7O1ECg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Panel weather icon configuration
In F12 I like the new weather icon in the panel. One thing though -- if I try to set my location in the properties tab, the dialog says that after typing in a freeform location, I should be getting a pop-up with matching names. I'm not getting any pop-ups, I suspect that whatever I type in, for my location, gets ignored. Is my understanding correct, if so I'll file this in Bugzilla. I've upgraded this machine from F10 to F12, and applied all the current updates. pgpbugyyB1dPi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Panel weather icon configuration
Aaron Konstam writes: On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 16:35 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: In F12 I like the new weather icon in the panel. One thing though -- if I try to set my location in the properties tab, the dialog says that after typing in a freeform location, I should be getting a pop-up with matching names. I'm not getting any pop-ups, I suspect that whatever I type in, for my location, gets ignored. Is my understanding correct, if so I'll file this in Bugzilla. I've upgraded this machine from F10 to F12, and applied all the current updates. There are two ways to set the location. Type in the name , hit find/next and if it is found then hit close. II just did that and it worked. The other way is hit North America, then the next level of place, etc, until you get a list containing your place. Which way did you try to use? Actually, I figured it out -- I thought that this icon was pulling the weather data from weather.com, which runs off a fairly large database that lists every city name, including mine's. I wasn't getting any response from this applet after typing in my city's name. But after entering new jersey instead, I got a pop up with a bunch of city name in NJ, to pick from. pgpDsNdiSzBMR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnucash -- printing the check memo field
I'm trying to get gnucash to print a memo line on printed checks, in addition to the payee's name. No matter in which part of a split transaction I type in my short blurb, the print preview shows an empty memo line. If anyone managed to get gnucash to print a memo line, I'd like to know how you did it. Googling around comes up empty. pgpGmqIaulzdB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Broken dependencies script at it again
Tom Lane writes: Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com writes: Are people +1'ing getting rid of the broken dependencies script altogether? or +1'ing to predicting the future and stopping it before it breaks? I thought the +1's were for putting in some circuit breakers, so that when (not if) it breaks again, it won't spam the entire package Proposed circuit breaker: if more than 5% of packages supposedly have broken dependencies. pgpijnctyywJF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours
Richard Hughes writes: 2009/11/12 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: Meanwhile, with all of the above, gnome-power-manager is now showing me the last full charge of 947.4 watt-hours, throwing everything off kilter. What's the output of devkit-power --dump in this case? Thanks. Here's what devkit-power --dump produces. Note, that despite that devkit-power shows 947 watt-hours for 'energy-full', if I look in /sys myself, this is what I get: [mr...@lc2440 tmp]$ cat /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A03:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full 6300 /sys shows 63 watts, and this is what devkit-power tells me: Device: /org/freedesktop/DeviceKit/Power/devices/battery_BAT0 native-path: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A03:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT0 vendor: ASUSTEK model:M7V2P-E power supply: yes updated: Sat Nov 14 15:11:36 2009 (16 seconds ago) has history: yes has statistics: yes battery present: yes rechargeable:yes state: charging energy: 12.495 Wh energy-empty:0 Wh energy-full: 947.07 Wh energy-full-design: 60 Wh energy-rate: 27.285 W voltage: 15.268 V percentage: 1.31933% capacity:100% technology: lithium-ion History (charge): 1258229496 1.319 charging 1258229466 1.296 charging 1258229432 1.270 charging 1258229412 1.294 discharging History (rate): 1258229496 27.285 charging 1258229466 27.180 charging 1258229432 36.990 charging 1258229413 37.125 discharging Device: /org/freedesktop/DeviceKit/Power/devices/line_power_AC0 native-path: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A03:00/ACPI0003:00/power_supply/AC0 power supply: yes updated: Sat Nov 14 15:10:32 2009 (80 seconds ago) has history: no has statistics: no line-power online: yes Daemon: daemon-version: 010 can-suspend: yes can-hibernateyes on-battery: no on-low-battery: no lid-is-closed: no lid-is-present: yes pgpXn3myi4i35.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
Linuxguy123 writes: So, I reverted to using system-config-network and firestarter. I disabled NetworkManager controlling the devices. Firestarter kept saying that eth0 wasn't ready and crashing. I know I've run into this problem before with statically configured ports and firestarter, but I can't remember what I did to fix it. This is way harder than it needs to be ! I'm hoping the Network Manager in F12 will be a little more refined. Sometimes, it's easier to configure things directly by editing the contents of /etc/sysconfig, rather than try to figure out how to do it using some flashy GUI. What you want to do is not really that exotic. However it is also rather uncommon, so, sometimes, you find that the tools which are designed for average users and common situations simply cannot accomodate an unusual situation, even though, underneath, it's not really that complicated. pgpLHHslJIFjP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours
Richard Hughes writes: 2009/11/12 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator pretty much meaningless. Have a look at /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*/* when this happens. I would bet money the kernel is lying to us. If I'm reading this right, the kernel is giving out right data. [r...@lc2440 BAT0]# cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full 6300 [r...@lc2440 BAT0]# cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full_design 6000 [r...@lc2440 BAT0]# cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_now 59055000 This matches up what gnome-power-manager is telling me what my current charge is -- 59 watt-hours left. My full charge is 63 watt-hours, and the full design charge is 60 watt-hours (it's a fairly new battery). Meanwhile, with all of the above, gnome-power-manager is now showing me the last full charge of 947.4 watt-hours, throwing everything off kilter. pgp9ZEwBhWQ5a.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
Linuxguy123 writes:
In system-config-firewall.py, I did the following:
- trusted the wired Ethernet port.
- trusted DNS and Multicast DNS
- turned on masquerading for the wired ethernet port
- applied all these
In spite of all this my device is not getting an IP address. What am I
missing ?
I say you're missing the correct configuration for your wired segment, and
you're missing a DHCP server.
I guess what I am asking is, how do I tell the laptop to serve addresses
to clients on the wired Ethernet port ?
For starters, you need to assign a static IP address for your wired
interface. Your narrative did not include the low-level configuration
details of both your wired and your wireless interfaces. I'm guessing that
you probably configured both your wired and your wireless interfaces to use
automatic settings. That works for wireless, since your wireless address
point is handing your laptop an IP address. That won't work for your wired
segment, since there's nothing on your wired segment to give your laptop an
IP address for its wired network interface, all you have is some dumb device
there. Your laptop needs to take charge of the wired segment, and run the
whole show.
Presuming that your access point is assigning your laptop an IP address in
the 192.168.0.0/24 range, the logical netblock for your wired segment would
be 192.168.1.0/24, so you'll need to configure your laptop's wired interface
to a static netblock of 192.168.1.0, and a static IP address of 192.168.1.1.
You do that in Network Configuration. Bring up Network Configuration, and
edit your wired interface address.
Turn off all options, including Controlled by NetworkManager. Turn on
Activate device when computer starts, select Statically set IP
addresses, put in an address of 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, and
leave the gateway address blank, together with all the DNS fields.
If, on the other hand, your wireless access point is giving your wireless
interface an 192.168.1.x netblock IP address, you'll just need to turn
around and set up your wired interface to use the 192.168.0.0/24 range
instead. Your wired and your wireless interfaces must be on different
netblock segments, and your laptop bridges the two. That's how it works.
Then:
yum install dhcp
chkconfig on dhcp (so that dhcp starts when you boot your laptop).
man dhcpd.conf
(a lot of reading goes here)
emacs /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
You probably need to do add something like this in your dhcpd.conf file
(presuming that you're using 192.168.1.0/24 for your wired segment):
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
allow unknown-clients;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1;
range 192.168.1.129 192.168.1.159;
default-lease-time 604800;
max-lease-time 604800;
}
Since, as you say, you're using dnsmasq, you'll need to tell your DHCP
client (your wired device), that your wired interface's IP address is going
to be its DNS server (option domain-name-servers), also that your wired
device needs to use your wired interface as its router (option routers).
Oh, and you'll probably need to reboot, too.
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Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
Linuxguy123 writes: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 20:25 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Linuxguy123 writes: In system-config-firewall.py, I did the following: - trusted the wired Ethernet port. - trusted DNS and Multicast DNS - turned on masquerading for the wired ethernet port - applied all these In spite of all this my device is not getting an IP address. What am I missing ? I say you're missing the correct configuration for your wired segment, and you're missing a DHCP server. I guess what I am asking is, how do I tell the laptop to serve addresses to clients on the wired Ethernet port ? For starters, you need to assign a static IP address for your wired interface. Your narrative did not include the low-level configuration details of both your wired and your wireless interfaces. I'm guessing that you probably configured both your wired and your wireless interfaces to use automatic settings. That works for wireless, since your wireless address point is handing your laptop an IP address. That won't work for your wired segment, since there's nothing on your wired segment to give your laptop an IP address for its wired network interface, all you have is some dumb device there. Your laptop needs to take charge of the wired segment, and run the whole show. Presuming that your access point is assigning your laptop an IP address in the 192.168.0.0/24 range, the logical netblock for your wired segment would be 192.168.1.0/24, so you'll need to configure your laptop's wired interface to a static netblock of 192.168.1.0, and a static IP address of 192.168.1.1. You do that in Network Configuration. Bring up Network Configuration, and edit your wired interface address. Turn off all options, including Controlled by NetworkManager. Turn on Activate device when computer starts, select Statically set IP addresses, put in an address of 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, and leave the gateway address blank, together with all the DNS fields. If, on the other hand, your wireless access point is giving your wireless interface an 192.168.1.x netblock IP address, you'll just need to turn around and set up your wired interface to use the 192.168.0.0/24 range instead. Your wired and your wireless interfaces must be on different netblock segments, and your laptop bridges the two. That's how it works. Thanks for this reply. It was helpful. I knew that the wired port's address couldn't be set by DHCP because its not connecting to a DNS server. It is the server. I don't want to go to the trouble of setting up a DHCP server. I thought that was going to happen automagically. So I gave my wired port and the device addresses myself. However, the device still isn't happy. It doesn't have Internet access. I know that I can do this all manually by deactivating Networkmanager, setting things up in system-config-network and in Firestarter, because I have done it before, but I want to see how easy it is, or not, using Network Manager. My wireless router is giving my laptop an IP of 192.168.1.x. So I gave my wired port an address of 192.168.0.0 in NetworkManager. No. Make it 192.168.0.1. An IP address with all bits zero in the subnet address is special. So it an IP address with all bits one (a .255 address). I used a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. What is the gateway for this port ? I put it to 192.168.1.1, because that is how it would reach the Internet, but the software sets it to 0.0.0.0 when I apply it. ? No gateway setting. The gateway setting is applicable to the entire host, not a single network interface. I left DNS servers blank but somehow it automagically set the Search Domains to be my ISP. I haven't added any routes. On my device, I set its IP address to 192.168.0.10, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and gateway to 192.168.0.1 because that is the laptops wired port. No, you just said, above, that you've set the wired network interface's IP address to 192.168.0.0, and not 192.168.0.1. pgpv5BnEmV6ik.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whatever happened to gnome-keyring-manager?
Aaron Konstam writes: On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 11:30 -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: On 11/11/2009 10:02 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: See Subject. If it's gone, is there any other utility for managing the contents of the keyring? See the Passwords tab in Seahorse (Applications Accessories Passswords and Encryption Keys, in Gnome) I don't have anything like that on my machine. Install the seahorse rpm. pgpExRG4aeehy.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whatever happened to gnome-keyring-manager?
Matthew Saltzman writes: On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 21:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/11/2009 09:32 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: See Subject. If it's gone, is there any other utility for managing the contents of the keyring? Seahorse has replaced it. Thanks. I understand why developers go for clever/colorful names for their programs. I'm often tempted myself. But how would I ever have found that without asking? Google. That's how I figured out what to look for. pgp1hUh5SlWqN.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
My laptop's battery is bigger than yours
Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator pretty much meaningless. I can usually set things back to normal by charging up the battery to its true max capacity, 63 watt-hours, and rebooting. After the reboot, gnome-power-manager gains back its sanity, and usually continues to behave itself, for several cycle charges and reboots. But, invariably, after a few days gnome-power-manager once again becomes convinced that my laptop's got a nuclear-powered battery. It's beginning to get rather old, and annoying. It looks to me like somehow, somewhere, gnome-power-manager saved an erroneous power reading, once upon a time, and keeps going back to it. I tried looking in gconf, trying to figured out where gnome-power-manager saves the last full charge reading, but had no luck. Anyone knows? pgpKzKlPMpeaC.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Multiple FC11 Update Failures - Kernel 2.6.30.9-96.fc11
jrick...@myamigos.us writes: The only common thread I can find in all three systems is the following filesystem format setups: /boot runs EXT3 / runs EXT4 /home runs EXT4 /var runs EXT4 /tmp runs EXT4 Given that EXT4 is a relative newcomer, and you claim that your boot progress halts at the point where you expect the kernel to issue some EXT4 status messages, this strongly suggests EXT4 borkage in this kernel build. These kinds of things happen, from time to time. Your only realistic option is to wait for the next kernel update, and hope that it gets fixed. You may consider opening a bug in Bugzilla; that might help things. If there are multiple reports in Bugzilla pointing the finger at ext4, this should catch someone's attention. You may also consider booting the most recent working kernel with the forcefsck option, to force a fsck on all your ext4 partitions, in the event that your fubarage got triggered by minor filesystem corruption, but that's a long shot. pgpSpOfY0TRh0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is V4L
Jim writes: Fc11 I must be missing something, but has V4L (video4Linux) changed it's name ? I can't find it under the V4L name. I think that most of V4L's drivers have been merged into the kernel a long time ago. pgpWoita4Xuxq.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox 3.5.4 broken?
suvayu ali writes: 2009/10/29 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: On 10/29/2009 06:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: 1. Highlight a word on a web page. 2. Right click on word. 3. Select Search Google for word... 4. ??? 5. Crash box appears. Anyone else? Ignore this e-mail. Carry on. . Did a restart of Firefox fixed it? I think I experienced something similar last night. Yes -- I've noticed that a while ago -- after upgrading Firefox, any running instance needs to be shut down and restarted, otherwise the existing running Firefox goes bonkers. pgpD67YRqk7F6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?
Timothy Murphy writes: I had a little program which I ran each day as a cron job to mail me the IP address of a machine in a different country. I give the program sm.py below; I can't remember where I found it. In any case, the program has ceased to work because the site heliohost seems to have gone off-line. I wonder if anyone knows of an alternative site which I could substitute? You don't need to use any site. The sender's IP address will be recorded in the test message's headers. pgpe3cVn52hu0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New scanner/printer combo
Gene Heskett writes: The other 3 choices were Lexmark (over my dead body) HP but the ink colors suck, cannon (no reason, just general principles) and all the 500 USD color laser stuff. If in fact there actually is scanner support from linux in any of these MultiFunctionDevices, I would be rather pleasantly surprised. Well, there is one: Canon MF-4270: supported by sane, but not cups, so you get the scanner function, but not the printer function - haha. pgpEceLLHvRii.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New scanner/printer combo
Gene Heskett writes: Greetings; My truly ancient Epson C82 finally refused to respond to the head cleaning paddles yesterday, so I went out and got a new Epson NX515 combo scanner printer. Problem 2 is that the scanner doesn't even check in as shown above. According to SANE's database, this scanner is not supported by SANE. http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl OTOH, I also have an Epson 1250u that works flawlessly, but it would be nice to get rid of one rather high occupancy item here in the coyote.den. It works because it is supported by SANE. http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epsonmodel=1250bus=anyv=p= The current xsane device dialog skips it, going directly to the Epson 1250u, so xsane isn't seeing it, and while I have kooka according to the menu's, it doesn't come when called. Has anyone a clue to pass along? Unfortunately, unless your scanner is supported by SANE, you're boned. Generally, before buying a scanner or a printer, it is imperative to verify that it's supported by SANE or CUPS. pgpmERABl8MAx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?
Pete Zaitcev writes: On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:28:36 -0500, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. Sounds like a kludge to work around limitations of dpkg. Not really. Something like this would allow you to have a single boot image for both 32 and 64 bit hosts. 32 bits will be here for a long, long time, of course, but its days are numbered, so I don't think it makes practical sense to invest the effort in implementing FAT ELF format. There might be some practical benefit if its scope was expanded to support arbitrary binary ABIs, i.e. a single ELF image containing x86_64 and sparc64, perhaps. pgpPUNmFHH98g.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: input/output error on disk(?)
charles zeitler writes: when trying to copy a certain file, i get the message: cp: reading 'file' : Input/output error i took the volume it was on offline, did a forced e2fsck. same thing. smartctl -H tells me the drive 'passes' . i can change the name with mv, no problem there. are there any other (non-destructive) steps i can take? Yes. Get a new hard drive, and copy all of your files there, while you still have the time to do it. pgpODojY6P4Ug.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Viewing answers to one's nntp posts in Thunderbird
Ed Greshko writes: gil...@altern.org wrote: gil...@altern.org wrote: Is it possible to only view answers to one's usenet posts in Thunderbird, and those of a few other posters, if possible. To address the first part of your question... If you want to exclusively view only answers to your posts the answer is not really. However, what is wrong with choosing Click to display message threads. If you are the OP then any response to your message will appear under it. If you are the OP, you will see the messages of all the people who answered the people, etc. who answered your post until it has nothing to do with your post. There is no way to programatically solve that problem Well, there is a way, that seems to work fairly well. I do this in Cone: the thread gets highlighted for up to five chained replies, for up to 14 days after the original message. Although these parameters are adjustable, in practice I've never had the need to tweak them. They seem to work fairly well. To clarify this: all replies to the original post are considered 1st level replies. Replies to those messages are 2nd level replies. Cone highlights all messages up to the 5th level of replies, for up to 14 days after the original message. Messages beyond the 14 days are not highlighted, no matter what level of reply they are. Furthermore, the messages on the last, 5th level are highlighted differently, and it's a visual cue -- if you want to continue to monitoring, you can reset the thread watch starting from that message anew. Plus, Cone has rudimentary per-folder filters, so for selected mail folders or Usenet groups, I can set up a filter to start watching my own messages, and never miss a reply to my own messages, and the resulting threads. pgpojiBQCjhpW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Pirut listing output prepends digit :
vs writes: Hi list, When looking at the output of pirut in the GUI, I see packages listed as 1:x11-rest-of-name or 30:bind-rest-of-name. What does the digit that precedes the name of the package mean? The package's epoch version. Look it up. Executive summary: it's an ugly hack meant to be a workaround for certain rpm limitations, that will, unfortunately, be with us until our sun explodes. And maybe a bit longer than that. pgpmKkvREtZPA.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?
Linuxguy123 writes: I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is currently only using 3GB because I am running a 32 bit kernel. Why led you to this conclusion? 32 bit Linux is perfectly capable of addressing 4 GB+ of RAM. You need to install a PAE kernel, which should already be the case, by default. If you are not already booting a PAE kernel, just install it. Sooner or later I want to upgrade to a 64 bit kernel and 8 GB of RAM. Other than this article, I can't find any information on the subject. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/123800 I am looking to do the upgrade WITHOUT reinstalling Fedora. I've done Someone who has sufficient technical experience and know-how might be able to pull this off. But, to be perfectly straight, if you have to ask how to do this, you do not have the requisite know how. Here's what needs to be done, and you judge for yourself if you think you'll be able to handle something like this: 1) force-install a 64-bit kernel, 64 bit glibc, and 64 bit init. I'm pretty sure that the 32 bit mkinitrd will barf when it tries to assemble an initrd for the 64 bit kernel. You'll have to unpack your current mkinitrd, look inside, enumerate all the modules that it loads, than manually build an equivalent 64 bit initrd, with the analogous kernel modules. Cross your fingers, and attempt to boot the new kernel into single user mode. 2) Proceed to replace your RPMs with their corresponding 64 bit versions, by hand. I'm rather skeptical that yum upgrade will figure it out automatically. More than likely, neither yum nor rpm will have any idea how to do this. This will have to be spoon fed. You'll have to identify what all the dependencies are, between various packages, and update/convert them in the right order. All the time, have a rescue disk available in case some detail gets missed, and you end up with an unbootable brick. Plus, the know-how to to boot a rescue disk, mount your partitions, and unfix whatever you fixed that broke everything. Not to mention the task of figuring out how to suck in the new 64 bit packages into the system, from single-user mode. I suppose that you can either burn them to a DVD beforehand (slow!), or pull them in over the network, in which case you'll need to know how to bring up networking from single-user mode, and figure out the exact list of packages to upgrade, at once, in order to convert all packages that support networking from 32 to 64 bits, at once, so that you can reestablish network connectivty after cutting over to 64 bit packages, for that part. enough re installations in the past to know that I don't want to go there. As best as a reinstall is, I'd rather do that, then try this kind of a cross-grade. Even though I believe I can pull it off, myself. But, if all you want is more RAM, all you really need is the PAE kernel, which I believe can handle up to 16 GB. A single 32 bit process is still limited to accessing 3 GB max, but overall the system will be able to use up to 16 gigs. If that works out for you, this is your path of least resistance. pgpzV3s5I84Ox.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
Hiisi writes: 2009/9/24 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: Mikkel writes: --SNIP-- After some more digging I've came to pretty much the same conclusion. So after a few years of general inactivity, I'm going to update floppy with the current device names, and I'll see if I can the upstream to update the fd(7) man page. But until the updated floppy makes it way into the Fedora branch of util-linux-ng, running MAKEDEV is the only workaround. Hello, guys! Thanks for the help you gave me. 'MAKEDEV fd0' did the trick - I can format floppy as root. But when I'm trying it as usual user I have: $ floppy --ext2 --format A: floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc. /dev/fd0H1440: Lupa evätty No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0 Only root can open the floppy device directly, and only root can issue a format. pgpfC3lDaTfGn.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
Hiisi writes: 2009/9/23 Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com: man floppy or pinfo floppy You can create the /etc/floppy file by running, as root this command: floppy --createrc /etc/floppy Done that. You should then be able to run something like: floppy --format A: Whenever I'm trying the command above I have: floppy --ext2 --format A: floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc. /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0 You're missing some device node. Run 'MAKEDEV fd0' pgpTiScvt1quy.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
Aldo Foot writes: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: ...snip... Whenever I'm trying the command above I have: floppy --ext2 --format A: floppy 0.16 Copyright 2001-2006, Double Precision, Inc. /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0 You're missing some device node. Run 'MAKEDEV fd0' _ How was he able to get the Formattable capacities for /dev/fd0: he showed in a previous email? floppy first opens /dev/fd0 and ioctls the device driver to read the available format capacity. An open of /dev/fd0 succeeds even if the inserted floppy is unformatted. But you cannot issue a format on /dev/fd0 in this instance, because the floppy is unformatted. A format issued on /dev/fd0 only works for floppies that are already formatted, and uses the same density as the existing format. Therefore, floppy takes the selected format capacity from /dev/fd0 (the highest supported, by default), then maps it back to its corresponding /dev/fd0xx device name, opens that, and then issues the format ioctls. This is really ancient stuff that I haven't touched in a while. I was even sufficiently motivated -- seeing that this hasn't been forgotten -- to go in and add the --ext3 option. When I did that -- and only after rummaging around the house to find an actual floppy -- I discovered that 1.44mb is too small for ext3, hahahaha. I know that he's missing /dev nodes because that's exactly what happened to me, when I tried to test it. Somehow, at some point in the last six years, a bunch of /dev/fdnxx device nodes vanished in Fedora, and it was necessary to run MAKEDEV manually to bring them back. WTF??? And I don't remember why floppy wound up in the util-linux-ng rpm. It was never part of util-linux. It's a separate package, which is included in the Fedora util-linux-ng RPM. The floppy tarball also includes a GTK tool, which gets stripped out and not even included in util-linux, since it requires gtk. pgp1AdlDVY0yh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
Mikkel writes: Sam Varshavchik wrote: Hiisi writes: /dev/fd0H1440: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole No formattable capacities for /dev/fd0 You're missing some device node. Run 'MAKEDEV fd0' On my system, the device node is /def/fd0u1440, not /dev/fd0H1440. According to the fd man page: 3.5 inch high density device files: Name Capac. Cyl. Sect. Heads Base minor # fdnH1440 1440K80 18 2 28 And that's what MAKEDEV created for me. In any case, you should not need to run MAKEDEV - udev is supposed to take care of creating device nodes. If you create your own, it will not survive a reboot. [mr...@commodore dev]$ ls -al fd0H1440 fd0u1440 brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 28 2009-09-22 19:52 fd0H1440 brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 28 2009-09-22 19:52 fd0u1440 It's the same device node. I don't know whether at some point in the last couple of years the commonly accepted naming convention for floppy device nodes has changed, or if this is a Fedora-ism. If the standard naming convention has changed, then I'll update floppy as soon as I see where the new naming convention is documented. But, as of now, this is what the fd man page says the naming convention should be, and that's what MAKEDEV creates. pgpdKVTO3IBkF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
Mikkel writes:
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I don't know whether at some point in the last couple of years the
commonly accepted naming convention for floppy device nodes has changed,
or if this is a Fedora-ism. If the standard naming convention has
changed, then I'll update floppy as soon as I see where the new naming
convention is documented. But, as of now, this is what the fd man page
says the naming convention should be, and that's what MAKEDEV creates.
All I can tell you is that in the /Documentation/devices.txt file in
the kernel source/documentation, it does not list any floppy devices
using a capital H. There is a lower case h, but that is used in
5-1/4 floppies.
...
40 = /dev/fd?h1440 5.25 1440K in a 1200K drive(1)
...
28 = /dev/fd?u1440 3.5 1440K High Density(1)
...
(1) Autodetectable format
I see. But when I look into the actual kernel source:
static struct floppy_struct floppy_type[32] = {
...
{ 2880,18,2,80,0,0x1B,0x00,0xCF,0x6C,H1440 }, /* 7 1.44MB 3.5
So the actual kernel source matches the man page. The label string here is
what the kernel prints when it boots up. That's where, apparently, the
device node names came from originally. But, looks like, at some point, for
some reason, a different naming convention was adopted and listed in
/Documentation, without updating the actual kernel source. And, Fedora's
udev setup follows the /Documentation convention, while MAKEDEV follows the
actual kernel source.
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Re: floppy disk formatting: how to?
Mikkel writes:
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I see. But when I look into the actual kernel source:
static struct floppy_struct floppy_type[32] = {
...
{ 2880,18,2,80,0,0x1B,0x00,0xCF,0x6C,H1440 }, /* 7 1.44MB 3.5
So the actual kernel source matches the man page. The label string here
is what the kernel prints when it boots up. That's where, apparently,
the device node names came from originally. But, looks like, at some
point, for some reason, a different naming convention was adopted and
listed in /Documentation, without updating the actual kernel source.
And, Fedora's udev setup follows the /Documentation convention, while
MAKEDEV follows the actual kernel source.
I guess things need to be brought in sync. The file I quoted from
was for 2006, so the change was made at least that long ago. It is
the same in the 2009/04/06 version. But I did forget to include this
comment from the end of the floppy device section:
NOTE: The letter in the device name (d, q, h or u)
signifies the type of drive: 5.25 Double Density (d),
5.25 Quad Density (q), 5.25 High Density (h) or 3.5
(any model, u). The use of the capital letters D, H
and E for the 3.5 models have been deprecated, since
the drive type is insignificant for these devices.
After some more digging I've came to pretty much the same conclusion. So
after a few years of general inactivity, I'm going to update floppy with the
current device names, and I'll see if I can the upstream to update the fd(7)
man page. But until the updated floppy makes it way into the Fedora branch
of util-linux-ng, running MAKEDEV is the only workaround.
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Re: name server via dhcp, but don't want dhcp assigned addresses
Joel Rees writes: The WAN side of the router runs dhcp to my ISP, and gets the dns server addresses by dhcp, as well. Check your router's documentation. The way that 99% of these routers are set up, is that they run a caching nameserver internally, and on the local LAN they give their own IP address as the DNS server's address, via DHCP. In the past, the ISP had told us to set the primary and secondary dns server addresses statically, so I had the router set to serve dhcp with those address. But I have also set the dns primary and secondary server addresses for all the boxes by hand to the dns servers Chances are that this is unnecessary. You should've just set your servers to use your router as the DNS server. So, my problem is that I need to tell each Fedora box to accept the DNS server addresses provided by the DHCP server (the router, actually, which worries me), but not ask for a host IP address for itself, but the GUI dialogs in current Fedora don't provide that as an option. Why don't you test setting your server as full blown DHCP client, and see what DNS address your router gives you for your DNS server. Chances are that it's your router's IP address. In which case you just need to configure your servers to use a static DNS server on your router's IP address. pgpfdCOdRJWQj.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why does laptop battery show 100% charge
Paolo Galtieri writes: This is something that has been driving me crazy over the last several weeks. I have my laptop plugged into AC power and has been plugged into AC power for several days now, but the battery applet shows 97.3% charge. It has been showing 100% for several days and never reaches 100%. The battery is less than 3 months old. I'm running F11 with all the latest updates. I would appreciate any ideas as to why this is the case. There have been no power outages so it seems to me there is no reason my battery should show 100% charge. Does your laptop provide any indication when your battery is charging? My laptop has a small orange LED that's lit when the battery is taking a charge. Battery charging is generally controlled by the BIOS. Linux generally has little, if any, control over the process. All that's happening is that the kernel is reporting on what the BIOS says is happening with the battery: whether it's charging, discharging, or if the system is on AC power with the battery fully charged; and what is the battery's maximum capacity and its current capacity. pgp0EiG4yyNyu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unable to login after getting system update of X11 in fedora 11
Bernd Knöttig writes: Germán Racca schrieb am, 12.09.2009 07:04: On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 10:43 +0530, Jatin K wrote: On 09/11/2009 01:12 PM, Bernd Knöttig wrote: Jatin K schrieb am, 11.09.2009 07:08: Dear list I'm not able to login after system update on Sep 10. the update I got is [1], whenever I try to login, it automatically logs off (I think there are some problem with X server ) after retrying 10 to 15 times I'm able to login and thing works fine can anybody help me to solve this problem ...,,? --- I had the same problem on two different laptops running Fedora 11/Gnome with an intel 945 chipset after recent xorg-update. A downgrade to previous version of xorg-x11-server-Xorg solved the problem. Bernd ok How do I downgrade to previous version of xorg-x11-server .. step by step guide ? yum downgrade xorg-x11-server-Xorg Prior to this you have to perform a yum install yum-plugin-allowdowngrade. Be carfull not to make a re-update with next yum-update. Alternatively, disable desktop effects/compiz. The breakage seems to be with compiz barfing, which kicks you out of X. It's kinda hard to disable desktop effects when you can't even log in. Flip over to ALT-F2 and log in to the console. cd $HOME/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session/required_components There should be a lone %gconf.xml there. Edit it, and carefully snip out the entry part that contains a stringvalue with compiz-gtk. If it's the only entry, just remove the entire file. This allowed me to log in without having to downgrade xorg. No eye candy any more, of course. pgpMCb5gjpagG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'm impressed!
Tom Horsley writes: Just finished swapping in new motherboard with different chipset, faster cpu (and more cores), more memory, etc. Plugged the disks back in, and it just booted and worked perfectly. I was expecting to have to fiddle initrd at a minimum and perhaps even reinstall. Yes, it's been this way for a long, long time. I remember doing motherboard swaps about 8-9 years ago. Fedora just booted normally. Windows had a major conniption fit. pgpt4IfrOSBBF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 - gdm autologin enabled = gnome keyring always asking for password?
jaivuk writes: Hi guys, I have single user netbook with F11 installed with encrypted partitions. (So I enter partition password before it boots) I enabled gdm autologin by adding below lines into [daemon] section into /etc/gdm/custom.conf and it works fine: [daemon] TimedLoginEnable=true TimedLogin=myusername TimedLoginDelay=0 The problem is that before netbook is connected to wifi network it asks for gnome keyring password. Please note keyring did not ask for password when autologin was disabeld (and I logged-in manually). In below discussions I found that there exists pam_keyring solution, however as it seems it does not work with autologin enabled either: URL:http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2007-10/msg02162.html http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2007-10/msg02162.html Do you please have any hint how to make autologin work without gnome keyring asking for password? I've managed get gnome-keyring to shut up up, with autologin. I don't use encrypted partitions, but I do not believe this is a factor. Install the seahorse package. This adds Passwords and Encryption keys in the accessories menu. Here's where my recollection is a bit murky, but what I think I've done is use seahorse to delete the existing keyring, create a new one with a blank or empty password. The first time around the block I had to reenter my wireless password, but from that point on I boot, autologin, and get wireless up without having to enter a password. I've done this on several laptops, so I know it's possible, but don't recall some of the details of what I had to do in seahorse. pgp2ZzcD5dG9t.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 GDM - unwanted list of all local users and impossible to customize?
jaivuk writes: I did not use gdm for some time and now I'm not happy how it looks in Fedora 11. First of all - the list of local users is unacceptable from security reasons. Have you ever looked, by any chance, at the contents of /etc/passwd? pgpd03io7N8ic.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Unable to install libX-devel
SriLatha writes: I even tried by downloading tarred libX11-devel-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 from web. But still couldnt. The error message generated was Errors were encountered while downloading packages. libXau-devel-1.0.4-5.fc11.x86_64: failure: libXau-devel-1.0.4-5.fc11.x86_64.rpm from fedora-iisc: (256, 'No more mirrors to try.') libXdmcp-devel-1.0.2-8.fc11.x86_64: failure: libXdmcp-devel-1.0.2-8.fc11.x86_64.rpm from fedora-iisc: (256, 'No more mirrors to try.') what should i do to resolve this. Look at the preceding errors which explain why yum is unable to download these packages, then fix the underlying problem. pgpam6Zl0neWz.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest kernel makes wireless connection to WPA2 router fail
Henrik Frisk writes: Hi, I'm running FC11 on a MacBook Pro. After the latest kernel updates (to 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.x86_64) I cannot connect to my wireless router anymore. If I boot up in the previous kernel it works fine. Any ideas on how I can fix this? The wireless interface on this laptop is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4322. No problems on this laptop with BCM4311 and the latest kernel. Generally, a blanket statement that something doesn't work offers very little usable information to work with. At the very least, you should gather some preliminary information yourself, such as: 1) the output of lsmod, to determine whether the b43 kernel module is loaded. 2) various bits of information from /var/log/messages. kernel messages from early in the boot process would report whether or not the kernel module was loaded, and if not why not. Or may be you have some error messages from NetworkManager, or wpa_supplicant, that point towards a clue. pgprXLBDWnrAK.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Latest kernel makes wireless connection to WPA2 router fail
Henrik Frisk writes: « HTML content follows » On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik URL:mailto:mr...@courier-mta.commr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Henrik Frisk writes: Hi, I'm running FC11 on a MacBook Pro. After the latest kernel updates (to 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.x86_64) I cannot connect to my wireless router anymore. If I boot up in the previous kernel it works fine. Any ideas on how I can fix this? The wireless interface on this laptop is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4322. No problems on this laptop with BCM4311 and the latest kernel. Generally, a blanket statement that something doesn't work offers very little usable information to work with. At the very least, you should gather some preliminary information yourself, such as: Right, sorry about that. 1) the output of lsmod, to determine whether the b43 kernel module is loaded.' It wasn't but it didn't change anything to add it. Here's the output of 'lsmod | grep b43' b43 127352 0 ssb 39572 1 b43 mac80211 199632 1 b43 cfg80211 37088 2 b43,mac80211 input_polldev 3952 2 b43,applesmc 2) various bits of information from /var/log/messages. kernel messages from early in the boot process would report whether or not the kernel module was loaded, and if not why not. Or may be you have some error messages from NetworkManager, or wpa_supplicant, that point towards a clue. Here's the output of 'cat messages | grep Network': Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1/wireless) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful. Connected to wireless network 'dinergy'. Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled. Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started... Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info (eth1): device state change: 5 - 7 (reason 0) Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Beginning DHCP transaction. Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info dhclient started with pid 9060 Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete. Aug 30 22:34:34 localhost NetworkManager: info DHCP: device eth1 state changed normal exit - preinit Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Device 'eth1' DHCP transaction took too long (45s), stopping it. Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info eth1: canceled DHCP transaction, dhcp client pid 9060 Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Timeout) scheduled... Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Timeout) started... Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info (eth1): device state change: 7 - 9 (reason 5) Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) failed for access point (dinergy) Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Marking connection 'Auto dinergy' invalid. Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) failed. Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info Activation (eth1) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Timeout) complete. Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info (eth1): device state change: 9 - 3 (reason 0) Aug 30 22:35:20 localhost NetworkManager: info (eth1): deactivating device (reason: 0). It finds the access point but fails at connecting.. thanks for any help, The best thing for you to do is to open a Bugzilla bug for the kernel component, noting that this is a regression, and including both the above output, as well as the output of the lspci -vv and lspci -n command, then, until this gets resolved, continue using the previous kernel. pgpfW4IxeChsQ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Multiple IP addresses without aliasing?
Ryan Lynch writes: Do the Fedora network init scripts support additional secondary IP addresses without the use of alias labels? Does an option for IPv4 addresses exist that works like IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES? I just skimmed /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt, but I didn't see anything to that effect, so I'm guessing the answer is no, and I have to use aliases and 'ifcfg-eth?:0' files. Yes, at least for IPv4. There is absolutely no support from the GUI, but you can manually install /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX:Y. For example, I have an ifcfg-eth1 and an ifcfg-eth1:1, with a second IP address. Just copy ifcfg-ethX to ifcfg-ethX:1, and stick in an additional IP address. pgpNmBFsk4Zup.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F-11 and F-12 on same machine?
Timothy Murphy writes: Am I likely to get into a mess if I have a dual boot system with Fedora-11 and Fedora-12 on different partitions, sharing the same /home (and /boot)? Not if you are very careful. pgpx09k5svtww.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cron Problem
rgheck writes: Hi, Here is a line from my cron file: 55 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 * * * audiogon.pl -f /tmp/rss/bw.xml 'http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/srch_fs.pl?WORD=b%26wFOCUS=EXYCTGSK=spkrfullsubmit=Search' It doesn't matter here what the audiogon.pl script does. (It scrapes the URL given and creates an RSS feed.) The problem is that this will not run. /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `' /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file The subject line of the email reads: Cron rgh...@rghquad /home/rgheck/bin/audiogon.pl -f /tmp/rss/bw.xml 'http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/srch_fs.pl?WORD=b So the problem seems to be the embedded %26 in the command: Thats is the URL-encoding for the ampersand (we're searching for BW loudspeakers). But even the single-quotes seem not to be protecting it from the shell. And is it relevant that it encodes the ampersand? Or is it the % that is causing the problem? Whichever it is, does anyone know how this can be made to run? From the crontab(5) manual page reads: The sixth field (the rest of the line) specifies the command to be run. The entire command portion of the line, up to a newline or % character, will be executed by /bin/sh or by the shell specified in the SHELL variable of the cronfile. Percent-signs (%) in the command, unless escaped with backslash (\), will be changed into newline charac- ters, and all data after the first % will be sent to the command as standard input. pgpmD0r0I1OFt.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Build requirements for threaded code?
Michel Salim writes: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 19:57 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: -pthread means -D_REENTRANT and -lpthread. -D_REENTRANT is basically useless and you should use standard feature test macros or _GNU_SOURCE for what you want. So just linking with -lpthread is what I would call the normal and recommended practice. The man pages are not maintained by people who ask the people who know. Which raises a good question: who ought to be in charge of the manpages? There ought to be a good way, once a problem is found (like in this case), for the relevant manpage to get fixed. The pthreads man page contains the maintainer's contact information, at the bottom. pgp9Jq0mLQa69.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Build requirements for threaded code?
Tom Lane writes: This might be a stupid question, but: what compile and link options are necessary nowadays for multithreaded code? I see various references to -pthread and -lpthread, but it's hard to be sure what's authoritative. Just -lpthread does the trick for me. The -pthread option is needed on other platform, not Linux. pgpylxOALwM8A.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Visiting webpage causes ~hard lock - round 2!
Dr. Diesel writes: Please save your work and visit (tech website): URL:http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450amp;page=13http://hardf orum.com/showthread.php?t=1391450page=13 Screen freezes, mouse has jerky movement, vt switch fails. Loads fine for me. F11.i368 all updates as of today, nothing good in /var/log/messages Same here. This subject is better suited for fedora-list, follow-ups set. pgphb2IiUxp2N.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How Extract The Fedorecore iso cd
Michael Wright writes: Hi List I cound't find any infomation on how i can extract the iso file like eg. simple URL:http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Fedora/i386/i so/Fedora-11-i386-disc1.isoFedora-11-i386-disc1.iso Fedora-11-1386-disk1.iso could someone help us out as i'm new to fedoracore What do you mean extract? If you want to access the content of the iso image, mount it with the -o loop option: mkdir /media/isodvd mount -o loop isofile /media/isodvd pgpaG2VK371IW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: quotas on nfs share
Aldo Foot writes: I wanted to add the command I use at the client. client mount -t nfs -o rw -o usrquota server:/mnt/p1 /mnt/p1 usrquota is not listed in the mount options. Why? client mount -l | grep p1 server:/mnt/p1 on /mnt/p1 type nfs (rw,addr=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) It seems to me that quotas, if any, would need to be enabled or implemented on the server, and not the client. This client has no clue, of course, if any other client is mounting the same export on the server. Some other client may very well be creating files, using the same userid, which impacts the user's quota. Therefore, logically, if there's something that needs to be done to implement quotas, you'll want to look on the server, not the cient. pgpGFuoBsqGOX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: quotas on nfs share
Aldo Foot writes: You're correct. All quota setup is done at the server. That's what I've done. Quotas are working in the server. If they're working on the server, the server should then enforce the quota, whether the files are accessed directly from the server, or from the client. Even though I mount with the usrquota option, the client does not see a filesystem with quotas. client edquota jdoe No filesystems with quota detected. client quotacheck -cugm /mnt/p1 quotacheck: Cannot find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option. I'd really love to solve this one. According to me eSearch, just about everyone who ever tried to solve this problem, went out without an answer. Why don't you try to blow through the user's quota, from the client. I suspect that you'll run into a brick wall, when the user's quota is used up. The issue is probably not that the quota doesn't work, but just that the client does not report the quota on the server. pgpHqpCy6powh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: low-level formatter for linux
Markus Kesaromous writes: Self-test execution status: ( 120)The previous self-test completed having the read element of the test failed. Your drive is a doorstop. It's time to recycle it. pgpMvgGrXoKh3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?
jackson byers writes: is it safe to : --quit firefox? Yes. --kill the 8024 python.yum process? No. Don't do that. pgpSDlgztnorE.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox on F9 with latest 64bit flash
Paolo Galtieri writes: I have the same version of libflashplayer.so running on F11 and firefox does not crash there, however, I'm running the 3.5.1 version of firefox on F11. It's fairly likely that Firefox's plugin binary ABI has changed, so the latest flash only works with newer versions of Firefox. That's the most likely explanation. The latest flash plugin for x86_64 works for me on F10 with Firefox 3.0.12 (can't upgrade this machine to F11 due to an open Anaconda bug). pgpBjwTqGEXPs.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gcc/perl/XS
Patrick Dupre writes:
Hello,
In a c subroutine I have the following code:
for (i = 0 ; i 5 ; i++) {
floatMatrix new_lines = (floatMatrix) realloc (lines, (nb_lines) * sizeof
(lineArray)) ;
lines=new_lines ;
nb_lines++ ;
}
which is called from a perl call through an XS interface.
It work fine with gcc.4.3.2 (32 but arch) machine.
With gcc 4.4.0 on a x86_64 arch it fails (segmentation fault) at the
second reallocation for nb_lines high (1).
However,
it is OK if nb_lines = 1000, and it is also OK if the same shared
library is linked to a c program calling the same subroutine
Insufficient information. The definition of the floatMatrix type is missing.
The original allocation of 'lines' is missing.
Generally, run your code through valgrind. An earlier memory corruption,
that only manifests itself at this point, is also a possibility. valgrind
should help in catching memory corruption earlier.
I also noticed that the values of the pointer is identical after and
before the realloc call (if not NULL�).
Correct. This is possible, if there is an unallocated memory block that
immediately follows the one being resized, in which case the C library can
merely adjust its internal data structures to reflect the updated memory
map.
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Re: Package Question
Ed Warner writes: I installed F11 as a new install rather than an update. It did not install rp-pppoe nor some other rpm's I needed. Trying to install them from the CD give me an error about not being able to reach the repository. Did I download the wrong install ISO? No, you don't need an install CD. yum install packagename will download the package, and install it. pgpvJlLt1Vjcv.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dialup from a fedora machine
Stuart McGraw writes: NetworkManager too wants a device to talk to, with /dev/modem being the default but since there is no such device (nor anything I see that looks like it would be an emulated serial device that talks to the pci modem card), I wasn't able to do much with that. If, as you say, it's a real modem, it should show up as an ordinary serial device, which would be /dev/ttySn. Standard serial port devices are /dev/ttyS0 through /dev/ttyS3. Any PCI cards that add additional serial devices would probably come up as /dev/ttyS4, and so on. Also, check the kernel boot messages, with dmesg, for any reference to your modem card. pgpUKJpGDJpNk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Open SSH client error
Richard R. Cahilig writes: Hello, I just installed fedora 11 64bit on our server, the problem is I cannot connect to other Linux server using ssh the error says ssh: connect to host 83.229.64.51 port 22: No route to host. Its strange because I already disabled the firewall and the selinux on this server and I can connect to that other Linux server using different computer and the firewall and selinux on that server is also disabled. Please help me. Can you ping the destination server. If you can, it's a firewall issue. If you cannot, you have a networking issue. pgprpqpwmefE8.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC 10 won't boot, hangs at GRUB
philb...@ptd.net writes: When I re-boot, the word GRUB appears on the screen and the system hangs there. I do not have an emergency boot disk, but I do have the FC 10 cd's. Boot with the cd, choose rescue mode. You'll get a shell prompt. Run: chroot /mnt/sysimage /sbin/grub-install /dev/sda Then 'exit' twice. This presumes that your boot drive is /dev/sda, which is nearly always the case. You can run 'fdisk /dev/sda' and see if that looks like your boot drive's partition. pgppObEttLNFb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue
Richard Shaw writes: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Sam Varshavchikmr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Richard Shaw writes: I am using the nouveau driver, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.12-40.20090528git0c17b87.fc11.i586 Although that's only one datapoint, it seems that the problem is with a fedora package and not with the proprietary nvidia drivers, which is some way is a relief. I guess this leaves a kernel driver or Xorg dpms bug as the culprit? Is anyone /not/ running ntp? One possibility that came to mind is something getting confused by ntp adjusting the system clock. pgpQwrZGp6Csd.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is this a firefox 3.5 problem? (Actual URL enclosed :-).
Tom Horsley writes: Here is a randomly selected multi-page article from time.com: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1909616,00.html At the bottom of the article text there are what I presume to be links to subsequent pages of the article. In a red box with red page numbers and one that says Next Page. On my fedora 11 system with firefox 3.5, absolutely nothing happens when I click on them. They don't appear to be links at all. In konqueror they not only act like links when I mouse over them, they take me to the next page. Works fine for me. Fedora 11 and Firefox 3.5, too. Create a fresh profile in Mozilla, see if the same problem exists in a fresh profile. pgpYaKv80l4y6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is this a firefox 3.5 problem? (Actual URL enclosed :-).
Tom Horsley writes: On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:22:21 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: Have you tried contacting Mozilla about your problem? Not yet, I wanted some confirmation that I wasn't the only one seeing it first. I'll pop over there soon and see if there are existing reports or submit a new one. Actually looks like it is Ad Block Plus. Apparently they have arranged the links so you can't click on them without going through a popup ad for netflix (at least that was the one I got when I disabled adblock plus). This does not affect privoxy. I use privoxy, all the ads get blocked, and navigation still works. pgpdL3PSDRnnt.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Viewing Attached Pictures in Thunderbird ?
Jim writes: Thunderbird-3.0b3pre. When getting pictures in Attachment, I can't view them in Thunderbird, have to Save As in home directory to view *.jpg pictures. In the email it's showing the; Content-TypeApplication/Octet-Stream name= *.jpg How can I setup in Preferences to display this Octet Stream by using Gwenview to view pictures. You can't. application/octet-stream is a generic MIME type. It's used only when a known MIME type is not known, for a given file. This is a bug in the sender's mail software, for failing to properly assign a correct MIME type to an attachment. These Damn Emails are probably coming from Outlook and Thunderbird can't view attached pictures. Examining the headers of this message should identify the buggy mail client. pgpcK8WQluA4x.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
