Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro
X7DWA-N motherboard.  I previously ran Fedora 10.

Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the
network work.  I tried restarting networking, ifconfig down and then
up again, but nothing I've tried will make the network come back.

I've been assuming it's a kernel bug, but haven't gotten it together
to report it.  Does anyone else have this problem?  A workaround?

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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/08/2010 01:53 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
 I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro
 X7DWA-N motherboard.  I previously ran Fedora 10.
 
 Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the
 network work.  I tried restarting networking, ifconfig down and then
 up again, but nothing I've tried will make the network come back.

Glad to see that you can at least suspend.  suspend never completes for
me.  I can't get there to see if I can resume or not.

 I've been assuming it's a kernel bug, but haven't gotten it together
 to report it.  Does anyone else have this problem?  A workaround?

I'm in the same boat, I haven't reported any bug yet, but I will have
time this weekend to play with it.

 Don Quixote


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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Peter Langfelder
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kevin J. Cummings
cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net wrote:
 When I bought my laptop, it was shipped with a cubbi-suspend2 kernel and
 the fglrx driver and ran under FC6.i386.  suspend worked for me on the
 shipped configuration.

 When I upgraded to F9.x86_64, I no longer needed the cubbi-suspend2
 kernel (now called tuxonice), and suspend worked really well.  I was
 still using the fglrx video driver.

 Now that I'm running F11.x86_64, there is no fglrx (or catalyst) driver
 for my video, and suspend no longer works for me.  There are no errors
 listed in my pm-suspend.log, in fact, the last thing in this file claims
 that it is performing suspend.  However, my system never powers down
 and never enters the suspend mode (with the flashing power LED
 indicator).  It remains powered on.  The only way to get the system back
 is to lean on the power button until the system powers down.  The power
 LED is then off.  The only way to power back up is to touch the power
 button again, and after which the system goes through a complete cold
 start and reboots from scratch.  When it is properly suspended, I should
 be able to touch any key to resume from suspend back to a running system.

 Can anyone please tell me what (obvious thing) I'm missing?


Not sure if this will help, but you can try. I have a Lenovo T60 with
some ATI graphics card and the standard radeon driver. Suspend only
works if the system is booted with a nomodeset option. I don't quite
recall what went wrong when trying suspend on a modesetting kernel,
but it never worked.

BTW, as far as I remember, when suspended, the machine only wakes up
when the laptop lid is opened - pressing keys does not wake it up.

HTH,

Peter

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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/08/2010 03:10 PM, Peter Langfelder wrote:
 Not sure if this will help, but you can try. I have a Lenovo T60 with
 some ATI graphics card and the standard radeon driver. Suspend only
 works if the system is booted with a nomodeset option. I don't quite
 recall what went wrong when trying suspend on a modesetting kernel,
 but it never worked.

Bingo!  Obvious work-around found!  That was it!  When I add nomodeset
to the grub kernel line, it suspends  resumes just fine.

Thanks!  That saves me from mucking with the suspend configuration
(which now doesn't need mucking with)!

 BTW, as far as I remember, when suspended, the machine only wakes up
 when the laptop lid is opened - pressing keys does not wake it up.

Nope, a key-press worked fine for me.

 HTH,

It did indeed.  Thanks!

 Peter

Is this still broken in F12?  If so, it should be in the release notes
since its obviously also broken in F11

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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
 I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro
 X7DWA-N motherboard.  I previously ran Fedora 10.

 Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the
 network work.

I should mention that with the amount of RAM installed in my machine -
16 GB - suspend isn't really all that useful because of the amount of
time it takes to write the contents of memory to disk when suspending,
and to read it back in when waking up.  It takes just about as long as
it would to just do a shutdown and reboot.

The one situation I'd want to use shutdown instead is if I had a bunch
of windows open that I don't want to lose, and I need to leave the
machine for such a long time that I don't want to use all the
electricity.

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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Peter Langfelder

  HTH,

 It did indeed.  Thanks!

  Peter

 Is this still broken in F12?  If so, it should be in the release notes
 since its obviously also broken in F11


Glad I could be of help. BTW, this was also broken in Fedora 10.

Peter

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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/08/2010 06:34 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
 I'm running Fedora 11 on an x86_64 Core 2 Quad Xeon and a Supermicro
 X7DWA-N motherboard.  I previously ran Fedora 10.

 Suspend mostly works for me, but when I wake back up, I can't make the
 network work.
 
 I should mention that with the amount of RAM installed in my machine -
 16 GB - suspend isn't really all that useful because of the amount of
 time it takes to write the contents of memory to disk when suspending,
 and to read it back in when waking up.  It takes just about as long as
 it would to just do a shutdown and reboot.

That would be hibernate or suspend to disk.  I was talking about
suspend to RAM.  The whole point of suspend to RAM is that not much
needs to be written to disk during suspend, and not much needs to be
done upon resume to continue.  Its supposed to be fast already,
certainly faster than shutting down and rebooting.

 The one situation I'd want to use shutdown instead is if I had a bunch
 of windows open that I don't want to lose, and I need to leave the
 machine for such a long time that I don't want to use all the
 electricity.

There is a newer suspend to both which is designed to suspend to RAM
but also sets up suspend to disk just in case the machine is off long
enough to exhaust the battery and loses the RAM, in which case it can be
recovered from disk.

 Don Quixote


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Re: is suspend broken?

2010-01-08 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/08/2010 06:54 PM, Peter Langfelder wrote:

 HTH,

 It did indeed.  Thanks!

 Peter

 Is this still broken in F12?  If so, it should be in the release notes
 since its obviously also broken in F11

 
 Glad I could be of help. BTW, this was also broken in Fedora 10.

grumble.  (Which my laptop also missed.)  This problem definitely needs
to be mentioned in the release notes for nomodeset.  It breaks
functionality.  My home server will soon be leapfrogging from F10 to
either F12 or F13 (depends on when I actually get around to doing it).
My laptop will remain on F11 until after that.

 Peter

Thanks again Peter!

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