Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I disabled MozPlugger. Everything is back to the defaults as on Omega and your system. Goddammed plug-in! Must have been useful some time ago. If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. The wrapper is downloaded as a consequence of clicking on the show's video in the same way the wrapper from MSNBC is downloaded. FWIW, MSNBC doesn't use a wrapper around the flash player. I was mistaken. I may take a quick look at getting around it...but won't spend too much time on it. Thanks! Welcome. -- For God's sake, stop researching for a while and begin to think! Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. More FWIW CBC uses the embedded video software call UberPlayer. This software doesn't support Linux. PBS (http://www.pbs.org) uses their own PBSPlayer.swf and it does support Linux. Too bad CBC has decided to source their player from a vendor that doesn't value Linux customers. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. More FWIW CBC uses the embedded video software call UberPlayer. This software doesn't support Linux. PBS (http://www.pbs.org) uses their own PBSPlayer.swf and it does support Linux. Too bad CBC has decided to source their player from a vendor that doesn't value Linux customers. It's done on purpose. Watching videos at the CBC/Radio-Canada with Linux has been a problem from day one. The excuse is: Message from PaulNorth written on 2009-12-07 at Launchpad: It would not seem to be a technical problem at all I emailed CBC on behalf of us Linux users, and I got this reply. Dear Paul, We have checked with our technical staff, and unfortunately, as you point out, the new Flash player we are installing does not work on Linux systems. However it does work on almost all other systems, including Windows and Mac. The number of systems that could not see the video in our new player is likely around the 1% or less range. We are not in a position to develop any workaround that would prevent revenue from being generated when users watch video on cbc.ca. Funding for CBC from the government of Canada has not been growing, and the funds from Parliament (less than $40 per Canadian taxpayer per year) only cover part of the Corporations broadcasting operations. I'm sorry you did not get an earlier response from CBC. Parker Bishop Communication Assistant CBC Audience Relations So, this seems to mean that - as a matter of policy, they refuse to develop any workaround unless they can make money from it. I sense the cold, grasping hand of our ideologically hysterical Conservative government in this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/455852 == When i wrote to the CEO of the CBC, the excuse was the same: budget. So I referred him to videos on the site of the Passionate Eye that didn't use the so-called console: they played perfectly, but now, they not available, unless through the console, and they don't play anymore. So, my advice is: in the word workaround, there's the word work and, usually, it's just too much work. So don't spend too much time on it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/455852 I forgot to add that there's an ongoing discussion on the matter at this URL. It might be of interest to you. even technically. See also: http://tarek.org/cbc/index.phps http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36544958/index.php But, if this script ever worked, it doesn't anymore and it can in no way be considered a permanent solution, of course. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On 20/12/09 05:37, Marcel Rieux wrote: You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp Ask Omega where to get it, or use Omega. It is a Fedora remix. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 20/12/09 05:37, Marcel Rieux wrote: You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp Ask Omega where to get it, or use Omega. It is a Fedora remix. The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. -- Man does not live by words alone, despite the fact that sometimes he has to eat them. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 20/12/09 05:37, Marcel Rieux wrote: You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp Ask Omega where to get it, or use Omega. It is a Fedora remix. The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. gecko-mediaplayer is not available for playing Windows Media. Let me guess: all your system is either 32 bit or 64 bit? No flash-plugin 32 bit on a 64 bit system. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 20/12/09 05:37, Marcel Rieux wrote: You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp Ask Omega where to get it, or use Omega. It is a Fedora remix. The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. gecko-mediaplayer is not available for playing Windows Media. It does...with the correct gstreamer-plugins installed Haven't we been down this road before? I am telling youthose videos run fine on my system. I only use fedora and rpmfusion repos. The videos are playing on my system using gecko-mediaplayerregardless of your opinion. Let me guess: all your system is either 32 bit or 64 bit? No flash-plugin 32 bit on a 64 bit system. 32 -- If money can't buy happiness, I guess you'll just have to rent it. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. gecko-mediaplayer is not available for playing Windows Media. It does...with the correct gstreamer-plugins installed I have it installed. It is used for... Flash video! I am telling youthose videos run fine on my system. I only use fedora and rpmfusion repos. If all your system is 32 bit, I believe you. Mine worked fine with all 64 bit. But i installed Flash 32 bit because of security concerns. I don't believe the 64 bit version is patched and I don't like having to check all the time because it's not installed by yum. The videos are playing on my system using gecko-mediaplayerregardless of your opinion. Here, the slosest math for asf and asx would b epalin mplayer. Otherwise, it's MozPlugger. For Windows media, the closest match would be GNOME MPlayer. Is this the same as selection gecko? I don't have any gecko option available for Windows Media. Let me guess: all your system is either 32 bit or 64 bit? No flash-plugin 32 bit on a 64 bit system. 32 If it's all 32 bit, that's probably why. Do you use Mplayer or Totem? Omega uses Totem, I use Mplayer, which is recommenced by Radio-Canada. Mplayer used to work better. Maybe this has changed. BUT, though I might find a solution, all this is completely ridiculous. In the US, Microsoft is under the legislator's eye and I've been playing non-stop about 10 videos on... MS-NBC, which uses Flash-Player Here, in Canada, we're a banana republic. Harper is most probably financed by Microsoft. Sometimes, you don't change the settings at all and the videos stop playing. After Christmas, I'll see if there is anything to do with the opposition parties. At the CBC, you can't even play Flash, videos! http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows Hey, that's quite a feat! And no settings are involved in this case. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: The answer is gecko-mediaplayer and it is in rpmfusion and those videos play fine on my F12 system with that installed. gecko-mediaplayer is not available for playing Windows Media. It does...with the correct gstreamer-plugins installed I have it installed. It is used for... Flash video! I am telling youthose videos run fine on my system. I only use fedora and rpmfusion repos. If all your system is 32 bit, I believe you. Mine worked fine with all 64 bit. But i installed Flash 32 bit because of security concerns. I don't believe the 64 bit version is patched and I don't like having to check all the time because it's not installed by yum. The videos are playing on my system using gecko-mediaplayerregardless of your opinion. Here, the slosest math for asf and asx would b epalin mplayer. Otherwise, it's MozPlugger. For Windows media, the closest match would be GNOME MPlayer. Is this the same as selection gecko? I don't have any gecko option available for Windows Media. Let me guess: all your system is either 32 bit or 64 bit? No flash-plugin 32 bit on a 64 bit system. 32 If it's all 32 bit, that's probably why. Do you use Mplayer or Totem? Omega uses Totem, I use Mplayer, which is recommenced by Radio-Canada. Mplayer used to work better. Maybe this has changed. BUT, though I might find a solution, all this is completely ridiculous. In the US, Microsoft is under the legislator's eye and I've been playing non-stop about 10 videos on... MS-NBC, which uses Flash-Player Here, in Canada, we're a banana republic. Harper is most probably financed by Microsoft. Sometimes, you don't change the settings at all and the videos stop playing. After Christmas, I'll see if there is anything to do with the opposition parties. At the CBC, you can't even play Flash, videos! http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows Hey, that's quite a feat! And no settings are involved in this case. In your original post you gave 2 URL's http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows and http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp The first link leads to videos that are flash. However, they are not directly played by the flash plugin. There is a wrapper around it called v4.1.0.local 2009-09-03 7:59 PM which appears not compatible with linux. I cannot play them and I don't have Omega to determine if it can. The second link contains several other links...which was referenced in Frank Murphy's response...and to which I replied. Therefore, all of my comments were based on Frank's response and dealt only with the second link. Those links are not being played by a flash player...but by gecko-mediaplayer. FWIW, I don't have totem installed on my Fedora system. And, if you look you'd find that gecko-mediaplayer is mplayer with a new name. -- Ever notice that the word therapist breaks down into the rapist? Simple coincidence? Maybe... Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Ed Greshko In your original post you gave 2 URL's http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows and http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp The first link leads to videos that are flash. However, they are not directly played by the flash plugin. There is a wrapper around it called v4.1.0.local 2009-09-03 7:59 PM which appears not compatible with linux. I cannot play them and I don't have Omega to determine if it can. Omega can't play them either. As I can play Flash videos anywhere in the world... if the tv broadcaster allows them to go outside the county and unless a special home made plug-in is requested such as at ABC. Do you have any idea can possibly be the use of such a wrapper, except to prevent Linux from reading the videos? The second link contains several other links...which was referenced in Frank Murphy's response...and to which I replied. Therefore, all of my comments were based on Frank's response and dealt only with the second link. Those links are not being played by a flash player...but by gecko-mediaplayer. If tou go to Prefrences Applications, you see gecko-mediaplayer listed for asf, asx and Windows Media??? I doubt it. FWIW, I don't have totem installed on my Fedora system. And, if you look you'd find that gecko-mediaplayer is mplayer with a new name. Gecko Media Player is a browser plugin that uses GNOME MPlayer to play media in a browser. http://kdekorte.googlepages.com/gecko-mediaplayer But, in the Preferences, Applications options, you sometimes have mplayer, sometimes Gecko Media Player and sometimes GNOME Media Player. If this is all the same, it's rather confusing. There's also a MozPlugger option. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Ed Greshko In your original post you gave 2 URL's http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows and http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp The first link leads to videos that are flash. However, they are not directly played by the flash plugin. There is a wrapper around it called v4.1.0.local 2009-09-03 7:59 PM which appears not compatible with linux. I cannot play them and I don't have Omega to determine if it can. Omega can't play them either. As I can play Flash videos anywhere in the world... if the tv broadcaster allows them to go outside the county and unless a special home made plug-in is requested such as at ABC. Do you have any idea can possibly be the use of such a wrapper, except to prevent Linux from reading the videos? The second link contains several other links...which was referenced in Frank Murphy's response...and to which I replied. Therefore, all of my comments were based on Frank's response and dealt only with the second link. Those links are not being played by a flash player...but by gecko-mediaplayer. If tou go to Prefrences Applications, you see gecko-mediaplayer listed for asf, asx and Windows Media??? I doubt it. FWIW, I don't have totem installed on my Fedora system. And, if you look you'd find that gecko-mediaplayer is mplayer with a new name. Gecko Media Player is a browser plugin that uses GNOME MPlayer to play media in a browser. http://kdekorte.googlepages.com/gecko-mediaplayer But, in the Preferences, Applications options, you sometimes have mplayer, sometimes Gecko Media Player and sometimes GNOME Media Player. If this is all the same, it's rather confusing. There's also a MozPlugger option. From firefox's about:plugins Windows Media Player Plug-in File name: gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/asx Media Files * Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes video/x-msvideoAVI avi,* Yes video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes application/x-ms-wmvMicrosoft WMV video wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes application/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes video/x-ms-wvxWindows Media wvx,* Yes audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes application/x-drm-v2Windows Media asx,* Yes audio/wavMicrosoft wave file wav,* Yes audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes As I said Those videos play just fine on my F12 32 bit system. And mplayer is being used. Your choice to believe it or not. -- Early to rise, early to bed, makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead. -- Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Ed Greshko In your original post you gave 2 URL's http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows and http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp The first link leads to videos that are flash. However, they are not directly played by the flash plugin. There is a wrapper around it called v4.1.0.local 2009-09-03 7:59 PM which appears not compatible with linux. I cannot play them and I don't have Omega to determine if it can. Omega can't play them either. As I can play Flash videos anywhere in the world... if the tv broadcaster allows them to go outside the county and unless a special home made plug-in is requested such as at ABC. Do you have any idea can possibly be the use of such a wrapper, except to prevent Linux from reading the videos? The second link contains several other links...which was referenced in Frank Murphy's response...and to which I replied. Therefore, all of my comments were based on Frank's response and dealt only with the second link. Those links are not being played by a flash player...but by gecko-mediaplayer. If tou go to Prefrences Applications, you see gecko-mediaplayer listed for asf, asx and Windows Media??? I doubt it. FWIW, I don't have totem installed on my Fedora system. And, if you look you'd find that gecko-mediaplayer is mplayer with a new name. Gecko Media Player is a browser plugin that uses GNOME MPlayer to play media in a browser. http://kdekorte.googlepages.com/gecko-mediaplayer But, in the Preferences, Applications options, you sometimes have mplayer, sometimes Gecko Media Player and sometimes GNOME Media Player. If this is all the same, it's rather confusing. There's also a MozPlugger option. From firefox's about:plugins Windows Media Player Plug-in File name: gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/asx Media Files * Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes video/x-msvideo AVI avi,* Yes video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes application/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes application/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media wvx,* Yes audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes application/x-drm-v2 Windows Media asx,* Yes audio/wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes As I said Those videos play just fine on my F12 32 bit system. And mplayer is being used. I believe you easily as I have exactly the same settings. But, before the gecko entry, I also have: MozPlugger 1.12.1 handles QuickTime and Windows Media Player Plugin File name: nswrapper_64_64.mozplugger.so MozPlugger version 1.12.1, written by Fredrik Hübinette, Louis Bavoil and Peter Leese. For documentation on how to configure mozplugger, check the man page. (type man mozplugger) Configuration file: Not found! Helper binary: Not found! Controller binary: Not found! Link launcher binary: Not found! MIME TypeDescription SuffixesEnabled (...) application/x-mplayer2 Windows Media video * Yes video/x-ms-asf Windows Media videoasf,asx Yes video/x-ms-wm Windows Media video wm Yes video/x-ms-wmv Windows Media video wmv Yes video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media video wvx Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Window Media video * Yes application/asx Windows Media video asx Yes I already tried choosing other options than Mozplugger in Preferences Applications and
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: I disabled MozPlugger. Everything is back to the defaults as on Omega and your system. Goddammed plug-in! Must have been useful some time ago. If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
Marcel Rieux wrote: I disabled MozPlugger. Everything is back to the defaults as on Omega and your system. Goddammed plug-in! Must have been useful some time ago. If you have any idea of the wrapper used by the CBC for flash, that would complete this thread. The wrapper is downloaded as a consequence of clicking on the show's video in the same way the wrapper from MSNBC is downloaded. I may take a quick look at getting around it...but won't spend too much time on it. Thanks! Welcome. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where is WM Player Plug-in (Omega has it)
As usual playing video at the CBC/Radio-Canada is a pain. They even succeeded at scrapping Flash video for Linux. See: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows I wrote to the of the CBC CEO to complain and he answered they lacked budget to do things right. When I noted that The Passionate Eye program offered some videos on its site that were available for Linux, the said videos disappeared. Draw your conclusions. Even MSNBC's... flash! is available for Linux! The problem in Canda is our politicians are wimps. Most probably Steven Harper is subsidized by Microsoft. OTOH, Omega, when Flash-Player is installed, does a nice job of playing Radio-Canada's videos. I can play them too, but they take a very long time before they appear with MozPlugger. Omega uses Windows Media Player Plug-in (in Firefox). Will this plug-in eventually be available from Firefox or rpmfusion. All the source I could see were rather unofficial. You may test at: http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/decouverte/2009-2010/archivage.asp -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
