P.S. ~ Re: Charity
One more thing ~~~ It's only 6:15 AM here in the soggy, pouring down rain, edge of a good 'ole N'easter hitting us FULL BLAST, BUT Just heard from one of my very best friends here with whom I network do rescue with, and she's been busy during the last 24 hours, getting in touch w/ "her" contacts, and has managed to "borrow" some 1/2 dozen or so "Hav-A-Heart" Traps, and since the weather is s rotten, and this area is rural w/ LOTS of ground to cover, she has assembled a group of volunteers to "set" the traps at first light also has rounded up some other wonderful volunteers, not concerned about getting "soaked to the bone", so hopefully we can canvas a large area, searching, providing make-shift shelters w/ tarps, leaving food doing the "Hansel Gretel" thing...leaving a trail back to "Home", mine!!! PLEASE, keep this wonderful group of volunteers in your prayers, wish us LUCK PRAY NO ONE CATCHES PNEUMONIA Also, the little Mom Pop Convenience Store in town is brewing thermoses of coffee Hot Cocoa for the Search Team. Talk about a small town pulling together. Amazing, when you stop consider up until yesterday, 1/2 these people didn't even know what a "feral" cat was!!! Not only has "Charity" found a home, I have too! I am PROUD to be part of such a small, close knit community! Will keep you all posted as events transpire! I realize we all do not "share" the same beliefs concerning "religion, normally it's a "HOT" topic, much TOO debated to discuss, but PLEASE, put all the controversy aside, and put your faith together in whatever it takes to find Charity, safe sound!!! With Love, Patti AND THE POSSE!
Re: Need encouragement, PLEASE
Patti, I know how you are feeling, but try not to desolve into guilt. What you MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER when doing rescues, is that each animal is a complete soul unto itself. While they are at the mercy of humans, they are not human infants. Nature has given them brains, intelligence and a will all their own. They ultimately make their own choices, and that is the way it is supposed to be. Keep putting out the food. Don't try to trap her againjust treat the barn like its her home, if she chooses to, she will come back and make it a home. It could just take time. A "feral" showed up at my parents home 2years ago. They've been adopted by two cats that have moved from their acutal home down the street and my parents feed, water, vet and house the twins-Tom Jerry and have been for years (they are both indoor/outdoor cats- even tho Dad would rather they stay IN.) Anyway, about1.5 yrs ago(shorting after the other cat they were feeding HissPuff - a true feral who chose their company, but never their touch had died -they started seeing an orange blob showin through the woods, just sitting looking at the house. Occasionally we would hear a "meow"...when Dad answered it, the cat would answer back. A few months later, he came closer and eventually was eating at the front stoop with T J...or rather I should say, when they weren't around. He would fly whenever he saw Mom Dad. A few more months passed and he'd stay in the bushes while the bowls were filled, and call to them. His face was always crusted over, eyes looked like they bleed and the other cats would beat the sh*t out of him whenever they got the chance. Through the winter, Mom couldn't stand it as he would lay curled up and shivering against the basement windows, but wouldn't come near anyone. She decided to trap him and take him to the shelter, figuring death was better than suffering the elements. She rented the trap for 10 days. "Tabby" never showed his tail once. She returned the trap, he came back, she rented it again for five days, again, Tabby never showed, but Tom and Jerry continued to take turns spending the night in it!...(idiots!) I told Mom that he had chosen his own destiny, and if that was his decision, she had to respect it. She agreed. (Now, as I don't live at home, I had only seen Tabby 2 or 3 xs myself and everything I knew of him was relayed by Mom Dad. Well my Quintapus died, and since Mom is worried about becoming the "cat lady" of the neighborhood (she really isn't a cat person at all), I made a point of meeting Tabby face to face. I didn't try to touch him, but would sweet talk him from a distance, and he would rub against a rock or tree, roll over and stretch...answer back with his soft "meow". I decided he wasn't feral, just scared and told Dad so. (My father...the Cat Whispherer! Dad puts the cats out-at their choice -in the early evening, tells them to "be back by Ten!" and they are...go figure) I told Dad if he could work with Tabby, I'd take him. All my father ever needed in life was a Mission! SO, there sits my father for hours on end each evening after locking the twin terrors up, sweet talking the orange, puss-y, weeping bag of hair. Three months later, Tabby-Bear is basically a house cat now. His eyes look beautiful, Dad has threatened the twin-terrors with a supersoaker whenever they consider beating up on him. And no, he won't become my cat, he's Dad's. You just have to let them choose their own liveslike grown children, perhaps.You'll loose a few, but that's noton you. You'll win a few, and really you can't take credit for that either...its THEIR choice. Hang in there. T- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: Need encouragement, PLEASE Dear List, I am feeling VERY downtrodden blue. I don't know what to do, where to turn. I FEEL SO OVER-RIDDEN w/ guilt, I can't stop crying. It's a long story, I will try to condense. Kerry is a little familiar as she is also on the Four Paws Feral list, and also I have mentioned "Charity's" store on this list. (Although she is FELV-) Early in July, some cruel, a**hole dumped a box under my neighbor's bushes which contained a young Mama 2, 5 week old kittens. Needless to say, since the box was NOT secure, Mama escaped, (apparently to try to find her way "HOME" to the low-lifes that dumped her! I can not, nor will I EVER be able to understand the love dedication an innocent baby will demonstrate toward the sc*m that abused her!!!) Anyway, I took the babies in, since they needed to be bottle fed would have died if left to the elements, or predators. Several days later, I noticed the poor, bedraggled Mama had made it back, looking for her babies, was hanging out down by the barn. I immediately got a Hav-A-Heart trap, and had her in less than 10 minutes. She was dirty, starved...broke my heart. But, it did not break her spirit!!! On moving her from trap to crate, she
RE: they wouldn't give up/euthanize their human kids--would they?
Title: Message Yes, let's see this one, MC! Wouldn't it be great if the US cat community cd afford to mount an adcampaign based on these spoofs. Of course it wd have to made v. clear they were spoofs because---(and I'm not a bit surprised by what you said earlier MC)--a lot of folks just wdn't get it. They'd takethe ads seriously. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCatsSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:11 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: they wouldn't give up/euthanize their human kids--would they?actually, i'm afraid that a lot of folks WOULD put their kids up for adoption if they thought the neighbors wouldn't talkhas everyone seen the spoof listing about the family that needs to rehome their kids because the purebred cat/dog they've been waiting so long for is finally available? i'll find it if not-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: P.S. ~ Re: Charity
that wouldn't be Diamond would it? what a guy...TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: patti, now you understand what i mean when i say that i'm sending GLOW for people and critters in need: it's the universal--prayers, light, healing energy, love, whatever it is that people believe in. and it's incredibly powerful stuff, no matter what you call it!rumor has it that one of the best "baits" for feral cats is kentucky fried chicken with the bones removed (some folks say to remove the skin, too, but i know that that's MY cats' favorite part. )i have an escaped cat tale, too--i bet we all do, but don't always talk about these "failures"--i know he's been seen in the area, and i'm hoping that when michigan weather hits, he'll decide that being a housecat beats the great outdoors -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
wormers
Does anyone have any experience or info on a wormer called Wormguard Plus Broad Spectrum for Cats? Here is the websitehttp://www.theholistichorse.com/index.php?page=detailsid=327it is holisticand it also looks pretty inexpensive. Supposed to kill just about all the worms including coccidia. Gary
Re: Mystery of Ghandi
Hideyo, Have you written to my friend Darla? The homeopathic practitioner? N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone – I took Ghandi to a vet – and there was really nothing wrong with him according to the blood work – everything was pretty much normal – but he ran low graded fever on and off (between 102 and 103) – today, he has slight fever, and he is hiding again - when it happens, I always get afraid of FIP – as one of the common symptoms is persistent fever with unknown cause – but his blood work did not reflect that he has anything like FIP at all – he still got stuffy nose and eye discharge –do you have any idea..
Re: Baycox vs Baytril - my bad!
o cool. I used baytril on dogsnever used it on cats.
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 32-Prayers for all your babies
Positive vibes coming your way. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 32-Prayers for all your babies Hello All: I have not had time to check in but, our Stinky cat is not doing well. Her CBC's on Tuesday were good- no anemia but, on Wed. she stopped eating and is so weak. I give her liquid nutrition but, I think our Stinky is getting too tired. To all of you with lost, hurting kitties or to those of you whose kitties have gone on, all our prayers are with you. Stinky's Mom and Dad
Re: Mystery of Ghandi
No ideas, but sending positive vibes your way. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: Mystery of Ghandi Hi, everyone I took Ghandi to a vet and there was really nothing wrong with him according to the blood work everything was pretty much normal but he ran low graded fever on and off (between 102 and 103) today, he has slight fever, and he is hiding again - when it happens, I always get afraid of FIP as one of the common symptoms is persistent fever with unknown cause but his blood work did not reflect that he has anything like FIP at all he still got stuffy nose and eye discharge do you have any idea..
Fwd: wormers
hee hee--i've removed the identifying info to protect the innocent, but here's the response i got i know that at some of you on this list know from whom this came RESPONSE: Snake oil. C - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Fwd: wormers know anything about this stuff/this place?-- Forwarded message --From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 7, 2005 1:24 PMSubject: wormersTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Does anyone have any experience or info on a wormer called Wormguard Plus Broad Spectrum for Cats? Here is the websitehttp://www.theholistichorse.com/index.php?page=detailsid=327 it is holisticand it also looks pretty inexpensive. Supposed to kill just about all the worms including coccidia. Gary -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
RE: Mystery of Ghandi
Thank you I got your message and have been trying to call you back, but the line has been busy did I have a wrong number?? Ghandi does not have diarreah and havent done the exam yet the vet took try to take some samples when taking his temperature, but it was not enough for fecal exam so I am supposed to take samples to them when I get some.. and have not done that - he is not vomiting at all, and the vet told me that she would not necessary treat animals with giardia if they are not having diarrhea.. so I dont know what do to.. I gave Panucur to Jasmine and was a bit worried because she acted very differently I gave some drug (and I only gave a half of what I was supposed to do) she is ok now, but now I am really nervous about giving a drug to Ghandi, too From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Mystery of Ghandi Hideyo, Here's Darla's website: http://www.kitsnk9s.com/Kitsnk9sHome.htm and her email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just left you a message on your work phone. I know I haven't been keeping up the way I used to, but I missed it if you responded to the questions about Giardia and Coccidia. They won't show up on bloodwork. Have you ruled them out? And if so, how? I know that that they are hard to detect and if you haven't used the proper abx. What did we all decide was safest, not Met/Flagil, Albon, (and Karen's suggestion of Baycox), for Coccidia and what for Giardia? How do you know that this is not what Ghandi is suffering from? Jasmine said something about his GI track, didn't she? Does Ghandi have diarrhea, or soft grayish stools? Is he vomiting? Forgive me if you've already answered these questions. I'm worried about your baby. N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: No.. I don't have her email address - could you email it to me?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:52 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Mystery of GhandiHideyo,Have you written to my friend Darla? The homeopathic practitioner?NHideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone - I took Ghandi to a vet - and there was really nothing wrong with him according to the blood work - everything was pretty much normal - but he ran low graded fever on and off (between 102 and 103) - today, he has slight fever, and he is hiding again - when it happens, I always get afraid of FIP - as one of the common symptoms is persistent fever with unknown cause - but his blood work did not reflect that he has anything like FIP at all - he still got stuffy nose and eye discharge -do you have any idea..
RE: wormers
Is this legitimate stuff does it work? Has anyone use it? Does it work for Giardia? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:41 PM To: FeLVTalk Subject: Fwd: wormers hee hee--i've removed the identifying info to protect the innocent, but here's the response i got i know that at some of you on this list know from whom this came RESPONSE: Snake oil. C - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Fwd: wormers know anything about this stuff/this place? -- Forwarded message -- From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 7, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: wormers To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Does anyone have any experience or info on a wormer called Wormguard Plus Broad Spectrum for Cats? Here is the websitehttp://www.theholistichorse.com/index.php?page=detailsid=327 it is holisticand it also looks pretty inexpensive. Supposed to kill just about all the worms including coccidia. Gary -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Mystery of Ghandi
So, Ghandi's symptoms are that he's lethargic/not energetic, has a slight temp at times and is not eating enough? No diarrhea, no vomiting. Hmmm. That doesn't sound like Giardia/Coccidia to me, but then, I'm no vet. Has he been wormed for the regular type of parasites? I've never heard of worms causing a temp, but then a temp of 102 - 103, is not really that high. Temps can be higher under stress, and sometimes even just taking a temp can be stressful. If this was done in the vet's office, no doubt the little guy was feeling stressed at the time. N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Thank you I got your message and have been trying to call you back, but the line has been busy did I have a wrong number?? Ghandi does not have diarreah and havent done the exam yet the vet took try to take some samples when taking his temperature, but it was not enough for fecal exam so I am supposed to take samples to them when I get some.. and have not done that - he is not vomiting at all, and the vet told me that she would not necessary treat animals with giardia if they are not having diarrhea.. so I dont know what do to.. I gave Panucur to Jasmine and was a bit worried because she acted very differently I gave some drug (and I only gave a half of what I was supposed to do) she is ok now, but now I am really nervous about giving a drug to Ghandi, too
Re: wormers
the best think for Giardia is panacurnothing else has ever worked for me panacur can be VERY dangerous unless the cat is in the best of health. Karen
Re: Mystery of Ghandi
I understand not wanting to give drugs to your babies, believe me I do. I have given a quarter tab of Droncit to wee ones, with no ill results, but it was only because I knew they had worms. N Nina wrote: So, Ghandi's symptoms are that he's lethargic/not energetic, has a slight temp at times and is not eating enough? No diarrhea, no vomiting. Hmmm. That doesn't sound like Giardia/Coccidia to me, but then, I'm no vet. Has he been wormed for the regular type of parasites? I've never heard of worms causing a temp, but then a temp of 102 - 103, is not really that high. Temps can be higher under stress, and sometimes even just taking a temp can be stressful. If this was done in the vet's office, no doubt the little guy was feeling stressed at the time. N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Thank you – I got your message and have been trying to call you back, but the line has been busy – did I have a wrong number?? Ghandi does not have diarreah and haven’t done the exam yet – the vet took try to take some samples when taking his temperature, but it was not enough for fecal exam – so I am supposed to take samples to them when I get some.. and have not done that - he is not vomiting at all, and the vet told me that she would not necessary treat animals with giardia if they are not having diarrhea.. so I don’t know what do to.. I gave Panucur to Jasmine – and was a bit worried because she acted very differently I gave some drug (and I only gave a half of what I was supposed to do) – she is ok now, but now I am really nervous about giving a drug to Ghandi, too…
RE: Mystery of Ghandi
Actually, the temp was normal at the vet which was two days ago.. he seemed warm this morning and hiding so I took the temp and was 102.5 or something Hon, he has not been wormed for anything at this time, I am so afraid to give him anything since I was not sure how he was doing internally at all The only thing was the albumin (?) (a potion of total protein) was lower, then, globlin was normal) the vet said that lowness of albmin was due to dietary since he was really not eating cat food Since two days ago, he started eating A/D cat food, but only from my finger.. he does not want to eat off the platebut its a good step.. and he ate some this morning, too.. I just dont know whats going on. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Mystery of Ghandi So, Ghandi's symptoms are that he's lethargic/not energetic, has a slight temp at times and is not eating enough? No diarrhea, no vomiting. Hmmm. That doesn't sound like Giardia/Coccidia to me, but then, I'm no vet. Has he been wormed for the regular type of parasites? I've never heard of worms causing a temp, but then a temp of 102 - 103, is not really that high. Temps can be higher under stress, and sometimes even just taking a temp can be stressful. If this was done in the vet's office, no doubt the little guy was feeling stressed at the time. N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Thank you I got your message and have been trying to call you back, but the line has been busy did I have a wrong number?? Ghandi does not have diarreah and havent done the exam yet the vet took try to take some samples when taking his temperature, but it was not enough for fecal exam so I am supposed to take samples to them when I get some.. and have not done that - he is not vomiting at all, and the vet told me that she would not necessary treat animals with giardia if they are not having diarrhea.. so I dont know what do to.. I gave Panucur to Jasmine and was a bit worried because she acted very differently I gave some drug (and I only gave a half of what I was supposed to do) she is ok now, but now I am really nervous about giving a drug to Ghandi, too
Re: wormers
Oh man, that's scary! Hideyo, I would write to Darla right away. If there is something else that you can do to get him in better health besides the drugs, I would give it a try first. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the best think for Giardia is panacurnothing else has ever worked for me panacur can be VERY dangerous unless the cat is in the best of health. Karen
Re: wormers
Well, that's unfortunate as it seemed a good thing. It does say it's guaranteed, wonder if it would be harmful to test it? She has an ebay store and no negative feedback, on the other hand, most ebay feedback is given very shortly after recieving the product, not usually after having tried the product. Just can't get a break. Gary - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: FeLVTalk Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Fwd: wormers hee hee--i've removed the identifying info to protect the innocent, but here's the response i got i know that at some of you on this list know from whom this cameRESPONSE: Snake oil. C - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Fwd: wormers know anything about this stuff/this place?-- Forwarded message --From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 7, 2005 1:24 PMSubject: wormersTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Does anyone have any experience or info on a wormer called Wormguard Plus Broad Spectrum for Cats? Here is the websitehttp://www.theholistichorse.com/index.php?page=detailsid=327 it is holisticand it also looks pretty inexpensive. Supposed to kill just about all the worms including coccidia. Gary -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: wormers
the thing is, you'd have to have various tests run to find OUT if it worked, especially when dealing with coccidia and giardia, which are notorious for hiding in stool samples i'd check out someplace like www.holisticat.com and see if they have any suggestions. oh, gloria? got any ideas? On 10/7/05, gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's unfortunate as it seemed a good thing. It does say it's guaranteed, wonder if it would be harmful to test it? She has an ebay store and no negative feedback, on the other hand, most ebay feedback is given very shortly after recieving the product, not usually after having tried the product. Just can't get a break. Gary - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: FeLVTalk Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: Fwd: wormers hee hee--i've removed the identifying info to protect the innocent, but here's the response i got i know that at some of you on this list know from whom this cameRESPONSE: Snake oil. C - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Fwd: wormers know anything about this stuff/this place?-- Forwarded message --From: gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 7, 2005 1:24 PMSubject: wormersTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Does anyone have any experience or info on a wormer called Wormguard Plus Broad Spectrum for Cats? Here is the websitehttp://www.theholistichorse.com/index.php?page=detailsid=327 it is holisticand it also looks pretty inexpensive. Supposed to kill just about all the worms including coccidia. Gary -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
