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Excellent advice![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the person who wrote that sounds like a moron. What the hell difference does all that make, in her opinion? A cat that doesn't want to go into a kennel isn't going to be any easier to get in from the top than from the side, they have good claws, and a strong grip, and can splay their legs PLENTY wide enough apart to foil any attempts at loading, if they so desire. Ventilation on 4 sides is only required for international air travel, for common use, 3 sides is plenty, most likely, one side will be up against the back of your car seat anyways. And as for it being transparent, I've NEVER seen one transparent, and I think the cats tend to hide in the BACK of the kennel for a reason, because it's a place to HIDE, thus, a transparent
kennel would make them feel less secure, IMO.My biggest suggestion is to get an intermediate sized kennel, so you can put a small litterpan in it with your cat. I show an example on my products page: http://ucat.us/products.html I've since come to realize that if you put the bedding in the BACK part of the kennel, and the litterpan in the front, the water and food that splashes out of the cage cups lands IN the litterbox, and causes no messes, plus, the cats tend to lay in the litterpan if it's in the back because they like to be in the back hiding. Just attach the cage cups up higher on the cage door, over the litterpan, like 3/4 of the way up the bars. The cats can still access them if they stand up that way, and can still dig in the box as well. To remove the cat, just take the pan out, set it off to the side, and remove the cat. To reinsert the
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Re: To Gina: Re: OT: Re: Question #3: Supplements

Hi Wendy,I've been offering her the dry foodas a supplement to the wet food (as was recommended by my vet) for about two months. She never turned her nose up at wet food before. She was on Science Diet(wet and also dry seperately). When I transitioned her over to Innova (wet)she loved it and would eat her fill. Now she just paws at the ground by the food bowl like she's covering up her "business"! Her dry foodis a mixture of the Science Diet and Innova Evo dry. I am going to buy another bag of Evo and mix it in, as I think she likes the Evo dry and her system is okay with the change over from Science Diet now.At any rate, I am going to call the vet tomorrow for a check-up just in case, and go to my local feed store to buy some different cans to try.Gina. wendy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gina,What do you think made her start turning her nose upat the wet Innova? Do you think it was putting thedry out? Can you see if taking the dry will help? Iwould try that, especially since she needs the lysine.I don't think there's any way to add lysine to thedry. As far as other wet foods go, some people likeWellness. I think that California Naturals makesInnova, so they will have other premium wet foods ontheir website you can learn about. Keep me posted onwhat works.:)Wendy--- Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Wendy, I've been feeding Pippin Innova wet food and mixing in the L-lysine. She seemed to like it. I was supplementing with Innova Evo dry mixed with Science Diet dry (to transition her
over from Science dry that she was eating.) Now, she won't eat the wet Innova at all. She turns her nose up at it and only wants the dry food. Can I stir the L-Lysine into the dry food until I find a wet food she will eat? And, can you recommend other wet foods I can try? Ginawendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hey Gina, I am not sure how much is too much lysine, but from what I've read, if kitty is asymptomatic, then 250 mg. per day is good for maintenance. If kitty has symptoms or is ill, then 500 mg. per day is not too much. That's what I gave Smookie when she had a corneal ulcer. If she tests negative on the second FeLV test, then I don't see the need to boost her immune system, unless the test is wrong. I have a kitty with feline herpes and I don't give her lysine
unless she has symptoms. Some people do though. It just depends on the person and their philosophy. It is good for them, so doing it for maintenance or for symptoms, either way is fine. I am not sure how much lysine is too much. I think some people even give 1000 mg. per day or more depending on how sick kitty is. You should research this more though. You can find info. on the web. Just pay attention to the sources. :) Wendy__ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Please visit my Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive
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Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

I will keep you both in my prayers.Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lucy was doing great recovering from her last IBD relapse, and I had just tapered down to 2.5 mg/day (started at 12.5 and reduced by 1.25 per week). And then she relapsed again. Liquid diarrhea and little interest in food. Otherwise she is acting fine this time, knock on wood. I put her back up to 10 mg/day of pred and am giving her some homeopathic remedies. Please send her prayers, good thoughts, etc. Her ibd definitely seems to be worsening, with more relapses that take longer to get better. I always worry a bit that it is lymphoma, given her FeLV, though I am now getting used to the up and down of
 ibd so am more concerned/depressed than panicked.Thanks,  Michelle Please visitmy Tigger Tales site! At the bottom of the home and links pages aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in advance! 
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Re: Inky update

2006-08-28 Thread Kerry Roach

Thanks for all the prayers and good thoughts for Inky..I guess we are holding our own for now..He had 150ml sub-q fluids on Fri..and was to have more on Sunday, but since he is eating and drinking now and we go to the vet on Monday, I thought we would wait for her to check him out..It really stressed him out on Fri. to get them..I thought I was losing him as he quit eating and drinking again..I tried it all, too..even Friskies cat food..so then I grilled him a chicken breast, upped his pred and gave him a dose of transdermal appetite stimulant oxazepam...it seemed to work as he is now on his 3rd chicken breast and drank a large box of chicken broth along with some water now..eats a little bit of k/d. I am having a hard time getting the meds in him though..I now put his pill in a french fry and he takes it from me.. So I guess we will just go one day at a time...as long as I can keep him eating, I think he will be ok..and keep him from vomiting..Only once since
last Wed..so that is a good thing.. Anyway, sorry to go on and on, but I think you all know how it is.. Bandy has now gone the longest in over 14 months without a fever..If he has had one, you couldn't tell it..eating good and playing with his toys..He only gets meds once a day now..and that is a first, too..his hair is growing back and instead of solid black, it is salt and pepper...he really looks good for a change.. Thanks for all the CRF info, too..I have alot to look into..I forgot to add that I am not sure that is what is Inky's main problem..as I was looking at his lab work and comparing it to his past lab back from March..It may be pancreas. His phosphorus level was normal..so we aren't using binders as of yet..he will get more lab work I'm sure in a couple of wks..His vet mentioned liver failure, too, but some of those were normal, too..So I don't know..I am just trying to combat several things here with the right type of
diet for him..to lessen the load on his kidneys, liver and pancreas. Not an easy thing. Our thoughts and prayers are with you all. Hope your fur babies are doing well!! Kerry, Bandy, and Inky
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Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

2006-08-28 Thread Gloria Lane

Prayers and best wishes for your Lucy's recovery to perfect health! in memory of my little 18 yr old Lucy who died a while back.GloriaOn Aug 27, 2006, at 8:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lucy was doing great recovering from her last IBD relapse, and I had just tapered down to 2.5 mg/day (started at 12.5 and reduced by 1.25 per week).  And then she relapsed again. Liquid diarrhea and little interest in food. Otherwise she is acting fine this time, knock on wood.  I put her back up to 10 mg/day of pred and am giving her some homeopathic remedies. Please send her prayers, good thoughts, etc.  Her ibd definitely seems to be worsening, with more relapses that take longer to get better.  I always worry a bit that it is lymphoma, given her FeLV, though I am now getting used to the up and down of ibd so am more concerned/depressed than panicked.    Thanks, Michelle

RE: Please send good vibes to Lucy

Title: Message

Sending lots of positive healing vibes for
Lucy. She couldn't be in better hands or have a more caring/loving mom, that's
for sure.
Kerry M.

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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, August 27,
2006 8:28 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Please
send good vibes to Lucy
Lucy was doing great recovering from her last IBD relapse, and I had just
tapered down to 2.5 mg/day (started at 12.5 and reduced by 1.25 per week).
And then she relapsed again. Liquid diarrhea and little interest in food.
Otherwise she is acting fine this time, knock on wood. I put her back up
to 10 mg/day of pred and am giving her some homeopathic remedies. Please send
her prayers, good thoughts, etc. Her ibd definitely seems to be worsening,
with more relapses that take longer to get better. I always worry a bit
that it is lymphoma, given her FeLV, though I am now getting used to the up and
down of ibd so am more concerned/depressed than panicked.

Thanks,
Michelle

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RE: Smokey is Coughing

http://www.alohapetservices.com/pet_cpr.html


Hi Dee
I did a quick net search and found this (see para below) from the
website above, but i don't know how authoritative it is. 
I recall counting my healthy cat's rate and it being in the 30s or even
higher, I *think*. Do you have any other cats that you can use as a
check?
Maybe someone who's at home right now cd count a healthy cat for you and
report back? (I'm at work)
I do know that when there was a serious problem, it was very obvious to
me that their breathing was abnormal--it was the breathing that alerted
me in fact.
But recently, I thought my foster cat was breathing dangerously fast,
but it slowed down, so i put it down to stress, or racing around my
apartment.
Personally, I would take Smokey for his appointment and just do my best
to soothe him/minimize the stress involved. 
Sending lots of positive healing vibes for Smokey,
Kerry M.

Your pets' breathing is another vital indicator of your pet's health.
You can visually or manually check your pet's breathing.  Place your
hand on the side of the chest or watch for the rise and fall of the
chest; count the rises or the falls for 30 seconds and double this
number to get breaths per minute.  The quality and character of your
pet's breathing should be rhythmic, easy and smooth while at rest.  The
breathing rate for dogs is 10-30 breaths per minute.  Cats breathe
approximately 20-30 breaths per minute.  Record the normal breathing
rate for your pet.  



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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:11 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Smokey is Coughing


Smokey started his Doxy regiment last Wednesday for his Hemobart.  I 
started him on his Interferon this morning (Sunday).   The vet suggested

I ease him into each regiment one at a time so if he has any symptoms we

may be able to pinpoint which regiment caused the problems.  I am hoping

to start him on the Lysine this week.  However, I am still worried about

his breathing.  At times he seems to have labored breathing and at other

times it seems to be better...but still not great.  However, I have 
noticed on at least three different times within the past week that he 
has had a coughing fit that takes him a while to cease.  It seems to be 
a true cough, not a hairball cough.  He has no discharge from his nose

or eyes.  Does anyone know what is a cat's  normal respiratory rate?  
The vet wanted him to come in any way in about 5 to 7 days from when he 
started the Doxy to do some blood work (this Tuesday).  But I don't know

if it would be better for him to wait due to the stress of the travel to

the vet or if it would be better to take him in right away due to his 
coughing  breathing.  I know any stress can make the virus do more 
damage.  Does anyone have any advice to lend me?  Any input would be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

~Dee
 
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Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

Hey Michelle,

I don't know how your email addy got blocked but I
went through my blocked addies, and sure enough, there
you were!  So now I can read your stuff.  I am sorry
to hear that Lucy is doing a little worse with her
IBD.  Prayers going out to her.

:)
Wendy

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Re: Treating nose sore

Hi Giselle,

I have no advice to offer, other than go see a good
vet about this.  Do you think it could be ringworm? 
You'll want to nip this in the bud immediately. 
Welcome to the group!

:)
Wendy

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Hello everyone, I've been a silent member of the
listserv since March and have been learning a lot from
your discussions and feeling your sorrows as loved
ones pass away. I'm now writing for advice -- my Pixie
is a largely asymptomatic  2 y/o felv positive and in
early August we moved from Philadelphia to the
Netherlands (flew Northwest so she could be in the
cabin with me). 

A few days ago I noticed a small bald patch on the
side of her nose and it's been growing in size and is
now looking red and irritated. I've been looking up
possible causes and I'm scared that it could be feline
calicivirus because she has eye discharge, a wet nose,
audible breathing, and the occasional sneeze. Does
anyone have experience with calicivirus, especially in
combination with felv? 

Perhaps another, happier, explanation could be that
Pixie is weirded out by the new environment and is
over-grooming? I tried putting Polysporin on the sore
a couple of times today and she's successfully groomed
it off almost immediately. Any tips on treating the
sore -- possible viral causes aside? 

Pixie is eating normally and seems fine other than the
aforementioned symptoms. I should also note that I
gave her dewormer for roundworm two weeks ago, after
finding some worms in her vomit. Not sure those worms
are totally gone, either. Any advice would be much
appreciated! She's my first felv cat and I'm thinking
of adopting another (Dutch) one soon, once I know
what's up with Pixie... and where to even find a felv
cat in the Netherlands. 

Cheers, Giselle




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Re: Bacardi

Hi Abby,

I'm sorry to hear about your kitten's diagnosis, but
this is the place for you to be for now.  How old is
Bacardi (I'm assuming that's her name from the subject
line, but I wasn't sure whether it was that or if you
were just drinking a lot of Bacardi after getting her
diagnosis-hehe)?  She may still throw off the virus. 
I would immediately get her on a good diet, like
Innova Evo (slowly mixing it in with her old) and
start giving her Lysine, Vitamin C, and Interferon. 
Others will give you good info. also.  FeLV is not a
death sentence and there are many kitties that live a
long time with it.  There are also others that do not
live long, and we have found that a good diet, good
supplements, and a stress-free environment are the
best things you can do for your FeLV kitten to combat
this.  You may want to retest her in 3-6 months to see
if she throws off the virus.  I also have a sick
kitty/general kitty care manual that I can email as an
attachment directly to you if you'd like.  Just let me
know.  You might be able to use it at work as well.  I
gave it to my vet.  If you have any further questions,
please ask away!  Welcome to the group!  

:)
Wendy 
Dallas, Tx

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Hip problems?

2006-08-28 Thread kandbz_ mom

Does anyone know if hip problems are associated with FeLV? Angel went to bed just fine and got up in the morning almost unable to walk. It's as if her legs are coming out from under her. We have an appointment with a new vet today @ 3:00. I am hoping for good news. I have no idea what could've happened to her... 
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Re: Question #2: Grooming

2006-08-28 Thread Belinda

  I have a Wahl grooming set I bought at Walmart for about $30.00 and 
cut off any mats, my long hairs DO NOT like brushing, but in a few 
minutes I can clip off the mats or areas that they don't clean good.  
Cody's my over weight guy and it's not going to be long before I have to 
clip the fur on his behind and down his legs, he's a Mainecoon mix.  
They don't like it much especially in the back area, but it's over with 
quickly because I keep up on it.  They are much happier once the mats 
aren't pulling their skin anymore.


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Re: Question #2: Grooming

yep, i have one of those, too--i have one that's cordless OR corded, and that makes chasing them down really easy.

they really do NOT mind the clippers once they get used to the sound of it. i must admit, tho, that my first trial last summer, on a shaded-silver persian was far more traumatic for her than for me--she wouldn't let anyone see her for months--i've gotten MUCH better since then!

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minutes I can clip off the mats or areas that they don't clean good.Cody's my over weight guy and it's not going to be long before I have toclip the fur on his behind and down his legs, he's a Mainecoon mix.
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RE: Hip problems?

Title: Message

Hi.
(Sorry, I don't know your name. ) The same thing happened to one of my
positives, Caramel, but Caramel was withdrawn for several months beforehand and
stopped eating a few days prior. I hope that because Angel has been fine right
up till now that it's not serious. It's good that you have a vet appointment
today. I hope you like the new vet, and he/she gives you reassurance.
Sorry I can't be of more helpI'm sending lots ofhealing vobes for your
little Angel. Please let us know what happens when youhave time. Kerry
M.
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AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Hip
problems?Does anyone know if hip problems are associated
with FeLV? Angel went to bed just fine and got up in the morning almost
unable to walk. It's as if her legs are coming out from under her. We have
an appointment with a new vet today @ 3:00. I am hoping for good news. I
have no idea what could've happened to her...

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Re: Question #2: Grooming

2006-08-28 Thread Belinda

yep, i have one of those, too--i have one that's cordless OR corded, 
and that makes chasing them down really easy..


Sounds like the same one, keeps the charge for a long time too.

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Satch update and some much needed cuteness

2006-08-28 Thread Leslie

Hi everyone,
I'm back from visiting family and Satch is definitely better. His appetite is almost normal now. Still with the cough, but that should probably linger for a while. I wanted to let you all know how he faired. I think that he'll be busy stomping around for some time yet, I hope. I can't say that this has bolstered my courage to introduce him to another cat of any make, model, or leukemia testing result, but we'll see. Trixie, the positive kitten, is still in recovery at her foster home. Geneva, the other positive kitten, was adopted from the shelter early last week, so big YAY! there.


And now, here is some CUTEness. OT as these are rabbits, but on topic as they are wonderful.

http://www.birdchick.com/adventures/rabbit/

Be sure to check out the link at the top of the page The disapproving continues... if you approve of the disapproving. :)
Leslie

Re: Dilated left eye

2006-08-28 Thread Roxane Baldwin

I have him back on commerical CF. He seems really normal but his eye has been normal since that one day. When he eye was dilated, he did a lot of head shaking but I thought he as having trouble focusing.Roxane[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is he getting a commercial cat food, or a Taurine supplement if fed home made? If you shine a light into that eye now, does it react normally? Is he holding his head to the side, or falling over, or walking in any circles? It could be several things, or nothing.  PhaewrynPlease adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary
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Re: Satch update and some much needed cuteness

Leslie,

Yea!!!  I am so happy to hear that Satch is almost
back to normal.  I am glad you got to spend time with
your family and at the same time, that Satch only
improved.  You are truly blessed.  

BTW, those bunnies are SOO cute!  I love the
disapproving theme.  My mom used to have a red bunny
named Bimbo.  lol.  

:)
Wendy

--- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I'm back from visiting family and Satch is
 definitely better.  His appetite
 is almost normal now.  Still with the cough, but
 that should probably linger
 for a while.  I wanted to let you all know how he
 faired.  I think that
 he'll be busy stomping around for some time yet, I
 hope.  I can't say that
 this has bolstered my courage to introduce him to
 another cat of any make,
 model, or leukemia testing result, but we'll see.  
 Trixie, the positive
 kitten, is still in recovery at her foster home. 
 Geneva, the other positive
 kitten, was adopted from the shelter early last
 week, so big YAY! there.
 
 And now, here is some CUTEness.  OT as these are
 rabbits, but on topic as
 they are wonderful.
 
 http://www.birdchick.com/adventures/rabbit/
 
 Be sure to check out the link at the top of the page
 The disapproving *
 continues...* if you approve of the disapproving. 
 :)
 
 Leslie
 


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RE: Satch update and some much needed cuteness

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Wonderful!!

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On Behalf Of LeslieSent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:50
PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Satch update and
some much needed cuteness
Hi everyone,
I'm back from visiting family and Satch is definitely better. His
appetite is almost normal now. Still with the cough, but that should
probably linger for a while. I wanted to let you all know how he
faired. I think that he'll be busy stomping around for some time yet, I
hope. I can't say that this has bolstered my courage to introduce him to
another cat of any make, model, or leukemia testing result, but we'll
see. Trixie, the positive kitten, is still in recovery at her foster
home. Geneva, the other positive kitten, was adopted from the shelter
early last week, so big YAY! there.

And now, here is some CUTEness. OT as these are rabbits, but on topic
as they are wonderful.

http://www.birdchick.com/adventures/rabbit/

Be sure to check out the link at the top of the page "The disapproving
continues..." if you approve of the disapproving.
:)
Leslie

How did Slinky do?

Hi Marissa,

I was wondering how Slinky did while you were gone?  I
just read your post, so it's a little late for prayer,
but I am hoping he did fantastic!  

:)
Wendy

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Re: Dilated left eye

i don't have real answers, but i know that one of my older girls had an eye-dilation problem that was gone by the time the vet got here--she had no signs or symptoms of anything else, and there hasn't been a recurrence. arh.

On 8/28/06, Roxane Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have him back on commerical CF. He seems really normal but his eye has been normal since that one day. When he eye was dilated, he did a lot of head shaking but I thought he as having trouble focusing.

Roxane[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is he getting a commercial cat food, or a Taurine supplement if fed home made? If you shine a light into that eye now, does it react normally? Is he holding his head to the side, or falling over, or walking in any circles? It could be several things, or nothing.

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Re: Question #2: Grooming

gee, belinda, do you sleep with yours on the bed next to you, too? probably not, you have a human companion!
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Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

I hope Lucy works through this newest bout of IBD. I know it's frustrating.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lucy was doing great recovering from her last IBD relapse, and I had just tapered down to 2.5 mg/day (started at 12.5 and reduced by 1.25 per week). And then she relapsed again. Liquid diarrhea and little interest in food. Otherwise she is acting fine this time, knock on wood. I put her back up to 10 mg/day of pred and am giving her some homeopathic remedies. Please send her prayers, good thoughts, etc. Her ibd definitely seems to be worsening, with more relapses that take longer to get better. I always worry a bit that it is lymphoma, given her FeLV,
 though I am now getting used to the up and down of ibd so am more concerned/depressed than panicked.Thanks,  Michelle

Re: Smokey is Coughing

I've never heard of coughing being related to either treatment. I really don't know. I hope Smokey is feeling better soon.  tonyaDee  Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Smokey started his Doxy regiment last Wednesday for his Hemobart. I started him on his Interferon this morning (Sunday). The vet suggested I ease him into each regiment one at a time so if he has any symptoms we may be able to pinpoint which regiment caused the problems. I am hoping to start him on the Lysine this week. However, I am still worried about his breathing. At times he seems to have labored breathing and at other times it seems to be better...but still not great. However, I have noticed on at least three different times within the past week that he has had a coughing fit that takes him a while to
 cease. It seems to be a "true" cough, not a hairball cough. He has no discharge from his nose or eyes. Does anyone know what is a cat's normal respiratory rate? The vet wanted him to come in any way in about 5 to 7 days from when he started the Doxy to do some blood work (this Tuesday). But I don't know if it would be better for him to wait due to the stress of the travel to the vet or if it would be better to take him in right away due to his coughing  breathing. I know any stress can make the virus do more damage. Does anyone have any advice to lend me? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.~Dee

Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge

Thank you. I've been on-off a lot recently too.  t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. I've been offline all week, so I know this is coming a bit late.  Phaewryn  No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006

Bad news about Spencer

First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the list 
lately.  As always, my prayers are with you and your furbabies.


I got some bad news about Spencer yesterday.  For about five days before 
I took him to the Internist on Friday, he'd been showing symptoms...  
Clear discharge from his eyes and nose, waning appetite, lethargy and 
then finally I caught him eating some of that dreaded clumping litter.  
I know, I know, we just discussed the hazards of clumping litter, but I 
bought some more of it because I needed some and it was all Costco had 
in stock.  About two weeks ago he also had a bout of vomiting that 
lasted a couple of days.  I'm still waiting for my vet's office to send 
me the full results of his cbc, he's got anemia, (Hematocrit 19.5 and 
Nutri-fils 1295).  I'm reeling from the result of his fiv/felv tests, 
he's positive for both.  Right now he's on Clavomox and Baytril, (I had 
put him on Clav last Wed pm).  He's acting a little better, but I still 
haven't seen him defecate, (he's out in general population still, so I 
could have missed it), and I'm worried about a possible obstruction.  
One of the vets thought she felt something hard when she palpatated 
him, the other vet didn't feel anything.  The article Michelle posted 
mentioned something about homeopathic vets treating for obstruction, but 
it didn't say what, or how.  I've emailed the woman that wrote the 
article and have a call into a vet I've used that treats with 
homeopathics.  Of course she's out of town for the next two weeks.  
Hopefully the vet that's filling in for her will have some advice 
without making me bring Spencer in for an xray or ultrasound.  Does 
anyone know anything about the treatment for clumping litter obstruction?


Hideyo is sending me a box of VO, hopefully it will get here by 
tomorrow.  Hideyo, I wrote to you earlier about Michelle at my vet's 
office being on vacation for the next three weeks.  When I asked about 
getting the dispensation process started for VO, they told me it would 
have to wait until Michelle returns.  I'll try to call you later so we 
can talk about this.


Please everyone, send prayers and good thoughts that Spencer bounces 
back and my fears about the clumping litter are groundless.

Nina

Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge


Tonya,
I'm sorry about Popeye and that horrible woman that gave you so much 
grief on top of losing him.  I hope by now you are coping better. 
Hugs to you sweetie, hang in there,

Nina

Re: To Tonya Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge

Thanks Wendy. We're very slowly getting used to Popeye not being around. He was always underfoot. Yes, it's true about the politics. And I teach in Georgia where there are NO teacher unions. That's why we can be treated however the principal wants to treat us. She is new, and I hope there won't be any more incidents ughhh.t

Re: Inky update


Kerry,
I'm glad to hear that Inky is holding his own.  It's really good news 
that he's eating more.  I'm sorry I didn't write sooner, I've been 
dealing with a lot of stuff right now too.  Isn't he funny that he likes 
french fries?  Really good news about Bandy continuing to do well too.  
I don't know how you continue to keep your spirits up, it never seems to 
end at your house.

Prayers to you, Inky and Bandy,
Nina

Kerry Roach wrote:

Thanks for all the prayers and good thoughts for Inky..I guess we are 
holding our own for now..He had 150ml sub-q fluids on Fri..and was to 
have more on Sunday, but since he is eating and drinking now and we go 
to the vet on Monday, I thought we would wait for her to check him 
out..It really stressed him out on Fri. to get them..I thought I was 
losing him as he quit eating and drinking again..I tried it all, 
too..even Friskies cat food..so then I grilled him a chicken breast, 
upped his pred and gave him a dose of transdermal appetite stimulant 
oxazepam...it seemed to work as he is now on his 3rd chicken breast 
and drank a large box of chicken broth along with some water now..eats 
a little bit of k/d.  I am having a hard time getting the meds in him 
though..I now put his pill in a french fry and he takes it from me.. 
So I guess we will just go one day at a time...as long as I can keep 
him eating, I think he will be ok..and keep him from vomiting..Only 
once since last Wed..so that is a good thing..

Anyway, sorry to go on and on, but I think you all know how it is..
Bandy has now gone the longest in over 14 months without a fever..If 
he has had one, you couldn't tell it..eating good and playing with his 
toys..He only gets meds once a day now..and that is a first, too..his 
hair is growing back and instead of solid black, it is salt and 
pepper...he really looks good for a change..
Thanks for all the CRF info, too..I have alot to look into..I forgot 
to add that I am not sure that is what is Inky's main problem..as I 
was looking at his lab work and comparing it to his past lab back from 
March..It may be pancreas.  His phosphorus level was normal..so we 
aren't using binders as of yet..he will get more lab work I'm sure in 
a couple of wks..His vet mentioned liver failure, too, but some of 
those were normal, too..So I don't know..I am just trying to combat 
several things here with the right type of diet for him..to lessen the 
load on his kidneys, liver and pancreas. Not an easy thing.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you all.  Hope your fur babies are 
doing well!!

Kerry, Bandy, and Inky
 



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Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge

Thanks Yvonne.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Tonya,I am so very sorry about Popeye  also sorry for what you had to go thru w/ your principal. I will never understand how people can be so cold. My manager had a similar experience at work when her dog went to the Bridge. Take extra good care of yourself  know that we are here for you  will always understand. Always remember that Popeye is with you no matter what.Yvonne

Re: Ordering interferon- Nina


Hi Kiley,
I was always able to get human interferon from my Internist's office.  I 
think Phaewryn wrote and told you to ask your vet to dilute it for you.  
I hope you've found a way to get some by now.

Nina

Kiley Dozier-Bosanko wrote:


Nina,
Did you (or anyone else) ever find anywhere other than Island pharmacy 
to order interferon from?  With shipping it's going to cost $70.00 for 
me to get a 4-6 week supply.  If you have any ideas of where else to 
look I would be very greatful.

Thank you,
Kiley  Mio  Oscar

Re: Inky update

Great news, Kerry! You are the best mom!tKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for all the prayers and good thoughts for Inky..I guess we are holding our own for now..He had 150ml sub-q fluids on Fri..and was to have more on Sunday, but since he is eating and drinking now and we go to the vet on Monday, I thought we would wait for her to check him out..It really stressed him out on Fri. to get them..I thought I was losing him as he quit eating and drinking again..I tried it all, too..even Friskies cat food..so then I grilled him a chicken breast, upped his pred and gave him a dose of transdermal appetite stimulant oxazepam...it seemed to work as he is now on his 3rd chicken breast and drank a large box of chicken broth along with some water now..eats a little bit of k/d. I
am having a hard time getting the meds in him though..I now put his pill in a french fry and he takes it from me.. So I guess we will just go one day at a time...as long as I can keep him eating, I think he will be ok..and keep him from vomiting..Only once since last Wed..so that is a good thing.. Anyway, sorry to go on and on, but I think you all know how it is.. Bandy has now gone the longest in over 14 months without a fever..If he has had one, you couldn't tell it..eating good and playing with his toys..He only gets meds once a day now..and that is a first, too..his hair is growing back and instead of solid black, it is salt and pepper...he really looks good for a change.. Thanks for all the CRF info, too..I have alot to look into..I forgot to add that I am not sure that is what is Inky's main problem..as I was looking at his lab work and comparing it to his past lab back from March..It may be pancreas. His phosphorus level was
normal..so we aren't using binders as of yet..he will get more lab work I'm sure in a couple of wks..His vet mentioned liver failure, too, but some of those were normal, too..So I don't know..I am just trying to combat several things here with the right type of diet for him..to lessen the load on his kidneys, liver and pancreas. Not an easy thing. Our thoughts and prayers are with you all. Hope your fur babies are doing well!! Kerry, Bandy, and InkyDo you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

Good vibes and prayers for both you and Lucy.  Is the tapering of the 
Pred the only thing that you can point to that caused her relapse?  She 
relapsed at 2.5mg, or she was doing fine until you tried lowering it 
still further?

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lucy was doing great recovering from her last IBD relapse, and I had 
just tapered down to 2.5 mg/day (started at 12.5 and reduced by 1.25 
per week).  And then she relapsed again. Liquid diarrhea and little 
interest in food. Otherwise she is acting fine this time, knock on 
wood.  I put her back up to 10 mg/day of pred and am giving her some 
homeopathic remedies. Please send her prayers, good thoughts, etc.  
Her ibd definitely seems to be worsening, with more relapses that take 
longer to get better.  I always worry a bit that it is lymphoma, given 
her FeLV, though I am now getting used to the up and down of ibd so am 
more concerned/depressed than panicked. 
 
Thanks,
Michelle

Re: advice re sedation for kitten on long trip


Hi Kerry,
I'm sorry I didn't respond to your email earlier.  I did just read 
Hideyo's response, and I agree with her.  The kitty will be traveling in 
the cabin with your friend right?  Mild sedation sometimes has the 
opposite effect on kitties than what we'd hope for, (I learned that the 
hard way).  Some of them panic when they feel drunk and out of control 
making things even harder to deal with.  I'd try the rescue remedy and 
maybe an antihistamine, but nothing stronger.  Make sure and tell her to 
have a leash and harness on the kitty in case she has to take her out of 
the carrier in the airport.  Has she already made the flight?

Nina

Kerry MacKenzie wrote:


Hi all
I don't know if this will go thru because I'm having a lot of 
problems. But I have to try, as someone I know is driving in the next 
couple of days from Chicago to NY City and asked my advice about 
sedating her kitten for the trip. I believe the kitten is 5 months 
old, and certainly under a year. I've never used any sort of sedation 
and said i wd ask you wonderful guys. I believe Benadryl was mentioned 
recently on the list?  Any advice much appreciated!

Kerry

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-28 Thread Lance


Prayers for Spencer, and for you as well, Nina.

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-28 Thread ETrent





Prayers going up for you and Spencer.

elizabeth

In a message dated 8/28/2006 3:42:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
First of 
  all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the list lately. 
  As always, my prayers are with you and your furbabies.I got some bad 
  news about Spencer yesterday. For about five days before I took him 
  to the Internist on Friday, he'd been showing symptoms... Clear 
  discharge from his eyes and nose, waning appetite, lethargy and then 
  finally I caught him eating some of that dreaded clumping litter. I 
  know, I know, we just discussed the hazards of clumping litter, but I 
  bought some more of it because I needed some and it was all Costco had 
  in stock. About two weeks ago he also had a bout of vomiting that 
  lasted a couple of days. I'm still waiting for my vet's office to 
  send me the full results of his cbc, he's got anemia, (Hematocrit 19.5 and 
  Nutri-fils 1295). I'm reeling from the result of his fiv/felv tests, 
  he's positive for both. Right now he's on Clavomox and Baytril, (I 
  had put him on Clav last Wed pm). He's acting a little better, but I 
  still haven't seen him defecate, (he's out in general population still, so 
  I could have missed it), and I'm worried about a possible 
  obstruction. One of the vets thought she felt "something hard" when 
  she palpatated him, the other vet didn't feel anything. The article 
  Michelle posted mentioned something about homeopathic vets treating for 
  obstruction, but it didn't say what, or how. I've emailed the woman 
  that wrote the article and have a call into a vet I've used that treats 
  with homeopathics. Of course she's out of town for the next two 
  weeks. Hopefully the vet that's filling in for her will have some 
  advice without making me bring Spencer in for an xray or ultrasound. 
  Does anyone know anything about the treatment for clumping litter 
  obstruction?Hideyo is sending me a box of VO, hopefully it will get 
  here by tomorrow. Hideyo, I wrote to you earlier about Michelle at 
  my vet's office being on vacation for the next three weeks. When I 
  asked about getting the dispensation process started for VO, they told me 
  it would have to wait until Michelle returns. I'll try to call you 
  later so we can talk about this.Please everyone, send prayers and 
  good thoughts that Spencer bounces back and my fears about the clumping 
  litter are groundless.Nina

Re: IFA kittens, retest at 6 mo 1 yr? Or is IFA positive final?




That was what I thought, thus my note to people that they SHOULD be 
retested later. Ok, thanks guys! Just wanted to be sure I was right. :)

So, next question, does an IFA indeed indicate the virus is in the bone 
marrow, or is this lady just whacked? I thought the IFA, being a blood test, 
wouldn't be much better to tell if it was in the marrow than any other test 
(ELISA), as blood is blood. Wouldn't amarrow sample be needed to tell 
anything about the marrow?I thought when it advanced to non-regenerative 
anemia, THAT was what indicated it is in the bone marrow. So, how does one go 
about determining if it IS in the bone marrow, other than the symptom of 
non-regenerative anemia? Bone tap?
Phaewryn

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Re: Smokey is Coughing




I think any respiratory distress calls for a chest x-ray, personally. 
Better safe than sorry.
Phaewryn

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Re: IFA kittens, retest at 6 mo 1 yr? Or is IFA positive final?

really good question, and one i've been wondering about and meaning to ask--i've often heard about FeLV supposedly, being in the bone marrow, but never have been clear if that's what the IFA tests, or if there's another test that can actually determine that--and that, even if it IS in the bone marrow, that means it cannot still be thrown off (someplace in my randomly-accessible memory, i'm thinking that belinda once talked about another test less commonly used?? not a PCR/DNA, but)


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On 8/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



That was what I thought, thus my note to people that they SHOULD be retested later. Ok, thanks guys! Just wanted to be sure I was right. :)

So, next question, does an IFA indeed indicate the virus is in the bone marrow, or is this lady just whacked? I thought the IFA, being a blood test, wouldn't be much better to tell if it was in the marrow than any other test (ELISA), as blood is blood. Wouldn't amarrow sample be needed to tell anything about the marrow?I thought when it advanced to non-regenerative anemia, THAT was what indicated it is in the bone marrow. So, how does one go about determining if it IS in the bone marrow, other than the symptom of non-regenerative anemia? Bone tap?


Phaewryn

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Re: Inky update




Well, good luck Kerry, you know we are all pulling for both of your boys, 
they've both become like family to most of us over the years. That page on food 
analysis' I posted should help you with choosing foods that are the right levels 
for Inky's many issues. Sometimes you have to sacrifice on one to deal with the 
other, I know. Just do what you can, you know?
Phaewryn

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Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-28 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Prayers and good thoughts are coming for you and Spencer SherryNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the list lately. As always, my prayers are with you and your furbabies.I got some bad news about Spencer yesterday. For about five days before I took him to the Internist on Friday, he'd been showing symptoms... Clear discharge from his eyes and nose, waning appetite, lethargy and then finally I caught him eating some of that dreaded clumping litter. I know, I know, we just discussed the hazards of clumping litter, but I bought some more of it because I needed some and it was all Costco had in stock. About two weeks ago he also had a bout of vomiting that lasted a couple of days. I'm still waiting for my vet's office to send
me the full results of his cbc, he's got anemia, (Hematocrit 19.5 and Nutri-fils 1295). I'm reeling from the result of his fiv/felv tests, he's positive for both. Right now he's on Clavomox and Baytril, (I had put him on Clav last Wed pm). He's acting a little better, but I still haven't seen him defecate, (he's out in general population still, so I could have missed it), and I'm worried about a possible obstruction. One of the vets thought she felt "something hard" when she palpatated him, the other vet didn't feel anything. The article Michelle posted mentioned something about homeopathic vets treating for obstruction, but it didn't say what, or how. I've emailed the woman that wrote the article and have a call into a vet I've used that treats with homeopathics. Of course she's out of town for the next two weeks. Hopefully the vet that's filling in for her will have some advice without making me bring Spencer in for
an xray or ultrasound. Does anyone know anything about the treatment for clumping litter obstruction?Hideyo is sending me a box of VO, hopefully it will get here by tomorrow. Hideyo, I wrote to you earlier about Michelle at my vet's office being on vacation for the next three weeks. When I asked about getting the dispensation process started for VO, they told me it would have to wait until Michelle returns. I'll try to call you later so we can talk about this.Please everyone, send prayers and good thoughts that Spencer bounces back and my fears about the clumping litter are groundless.Nina
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Subject: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-28 Thread Gary Murphy




Nina,
Prayers going out for Spencer, I hope he is shifting it a bit on his own and feeling better.

Best wishes,
Beth

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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:41:56 -0700
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bad news about Spencer
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Darla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the list 
lately. As always, my prayers are with you and your furbabies.

I got some bad news about Spencer yesterday. For about five days before 
I took him to the Internist on Friday, he'd been showing symptoms... 
Clear discharge from his eyes and nose, waning appetite, lethargy and 
then finally I caught him eating some of that dreaded clumping litter...

Re: Smokey is Coughing (my cat's respiratory rates)




Miranda is 21 (asleep)
Tigger is 21 (resting and looking at me)
Tang is 49 (freaking about because I was hovering over him)
Mythic is 28 (resting, best I could count with him scratching and 
wiggling)
Doobie is 51 (he associates me with food, so he was sniffing for food the 
whole time and meowing)
Bones wouldn't shut up and be still long enough for me to count, but it was 
about1 meowper second or two).
Phaewryn

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Re: Hip problems?




That sounds like a low Potassium level (or possibly a high Phosphorus 
level, or both), yes, can be FELV associated (since FELV effects such a wide 
range of bodily functions in various cats), as well as kidney, diabetes, or any 
other number of related diseases in cats. Also seen in Heart problems, and of 
course, can beNeurological as well.I'd get a blood panel done ASAP 
and a full exam, including very closely listening to the heart.

Potassium: http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms.htm#weakness_muscle_wasting
Heart: http://www.vetinfo.com/cencyclopedia/cecardio.html
Kidney/Renal: http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms.htm#lack_co-ordination_limbs
Diabetes: http://www.petdiabetes.org/legs.htm 

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Re: Dilated left eye




Has he been checked for earmites, and had his ears cleaned recently? Could 
be that simple.
Phaewryn

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I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-28 Thread kandbz_ mom

Well, Angel's "hip" problem turned out to not be her hip. The vet felt a big, swollen bump near her bottom and tail. He took a syringe and drained out a bunch of white colored stuff. He looked at it under the microscope and thinks it is cancer cells. He says she is in a lot of pain and this would take some doing, including a specialist, to have anything done about it. He says even if he drains all the stuff out, it will probably come back. She has nerve damage and may never be able to walk again. I don't really care about the money or how much it costs...I am just worried about stressing her out by putting her thru a bunch of things. She looks up at me with tears in her eyes and meows like she is in pain. She is only 5 months old and I have only had her for about 6 or 7 weeks. I am just heartbroken. She is too young to be going thru this.
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Re: I'm losing my Angel...

oh, i'm so sorry, karen--how heartbreaking for both of you.

talk to her, and really listen--she will tell you if she wants you to continue to treat her or to just love her until it's her time to go on


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Well, Angel's hip problem turned out to not be her hip. The vet felt a big, swollen bump near her bottom and tail. He took a syringe and drained out a bunch of white colored stuff. He looked at it under the microscope and thinks it is cancer cells. He says she is in a lot of pain and this would take some doing, including a specialist, to have anything done about it. He says even if he drains all the stuff out, it will probably come back. She has nerve damage and may never be able to walk again. 


I don't really care about the money or how much it costs...I am just worried about stressing her out by putting her thru a bunch of things. She looks up at me with tears in her eyes and meows like she is in pain. 


She is only 5 months old and I have only had her for about 6 or 7 weeks. I am just heartbroken. She is too young to be going thru this. 

Please keep us in your thought and prayers.

Thanks,

Karen

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Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-28 Thread Lernermichelle




Karen, you are in my thoughts and prayers, but I recommend you take her to 
a specialist at least once, for diagnosis. Your vet might be right, or he might 
be wrong. A bad vet said my horse Shire had a cancerous tumor on his neck 
when I was young and that he needed to be euthanized before it strangled him. It 
turned out to be an abcess, which indeed would have strangled him if another vet 
had not lanced it. I know it will stress her out to take her to a 
specialist, but this is about life and death. She may be at the last stages of 
something, but she may not.
Michelle

Re: Please send good vibes to Lucy

2006-08-28 Thread Lernermichelle





It happened at 2.5. The only other thing that happened is that I gave 
her, stupidly, a couple pieces of dry Evo. She used to be able to tolerate it 
well, until her relapse in July, and I was worried she was not getting enough 
vitamins because she had stopped wanting the organ portion of her raw food, even 
mixed in. I don't know if that did it, but it was at the same time as I 
lowered her pred, so maybe the combo. Or maybe neither-- when she relapsed in 
July, I had no explanation of what could have done it.
Michelle

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  vibes and prayers for both you and Lucy. Is the tapering of the Pred 
  the only thing that you can point to that caused her relapse? She 
  relapsed at 2.5mg, or she was doing fine until you tried lowering it 
  still further?Nina

Re: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-28 Thread Lernermichelle




Sending good thoughts and vibes. If one of my cats became anemic at 
this point I would probably try acemannan, epogen, or immuno-regulin, or a combo 
of two of these with some steroids, as it seems to have helped others on the 
list. Unless it is due to lymphoma, in which case steroids and maybe chemo. 


Michelle

Re: I'm losing my Angel...




Cancer in that area doesn't have a good outcome often, as it interferes 
with elimination. If she's in pain, and you vet comes back with positive results 
for cancer, I'd consider euthanasia. You can fight it, but if she is in that 
much pain.. do you really want to prolong it?
Phaewryn

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RE: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-28 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt




Karen, I'm so sorry that Angel isn't doing well. I know 
you'll do the best you can for her. Hugs to you both.

Diane R.

RE: Bad news about Spencer

2006-08-28 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt

Nina, here's hoping that your fears are unfounded.  Comfort vibes to you and
Spencer.

Diane R.

Re: I'm losing my Angel...

2006-08-28 Thread kandbz_ mom

Phaewryn,That is my thought, exactly. I would love to keep her alive with me but I want what is best for her. The vet said she may not even be able to go to the bathroom by herself..that I may have to pick her up and put her in the litterbox and then take her out-for the rest of her life. He also recommended shaving her entire lower part because she has poop sticking in her fur every time she goes. I don't know of many human's who would want to live that way, either. She is only 5 months old and just within the last three days, she looks like she has aged at least 10 years. Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I greatly appreciate it. Karen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cancer in that area doesn't have a good outcome often, as it interferes with elimination. If she's in pain, and you vet comes back with positive results for cancer, I'd consider euthanasia. You can fight it, but if she is in that much pain.. do you really want to prolong it? PhaewrynPlease adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006
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