RE: Uveitis
I don't have any advice, but I hope the sweetie feels better really soon. Hugs
for you and Junior, Sally.
Gina
Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }At this point his eye
hurts so bad I cant get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that
reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was
too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead.
I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in
his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the
Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with
the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating
well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the
one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If
it were he would not be able to see.
I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not
heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was
nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV.
Any other suggestions?
Sally
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Uveitis
At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote:
What are you using in his eyes
Kelly L
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Re: Uveitis
You have my prayers for your baby Junior. Gina Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Juniors eye is so sore. He has been through so much this year. He is already blind in this eye due to his encounter with a car. I suppose this weakness predisposed him to getting this kind of infection. I am concerned it is signaling he is not getting better. I dont know how you folks do it. Emotionally it is tough enough. Financially I am not sure I can keep this up, especially if he keeps getting sick. I pray I wake up tomorrow and he feels somewhat better. Thanks for your support, please pray for Junior\ Sally Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: Patty's addy for cards and letters/Attn: Belinda(list) all that sent cards
It's me - the insomniac (had THAT problem prior to MVA, but now, on top of everything else, it is much worse!) First off, thanks to all of you who sent me cards (belatedly, sorry). And Terrie, as I am not on computer much, AOL just deletes e-mails after what-ever time frame they go by.. In fact, I did get on computer earlier this week (?), memory's shot so I could be wrong I did write a post about Thank-You's, condolences, the cat-jacking episode (what a WONDERFUL ending), and shelters w/ Felv and FIV cats. But that is when my computer crashed, and I couldn't send it. It's on a file somewhere, but guess what? YEP!!! The memory thing - can NOT remember where I filed it. But, I had my roomie print a copy and I will get to it when he is available.. Things are NOT going good for me post MVA injuries. I am seeing WAAAYYY TOO many Dr.s/specialists (probably a good thing - They aren't giving up!), having a zillion diff. tests done. And, all of the Dr.s can not agree on prognosis! Some say one thing, another says something diff., and the rest all have their own guesses. My neurologist did tell me that in all probability I'll never be the same as I was. But, he couldn't/wouldn't tell me just what will stay damaged. Guess he doesn't know either Or maybe he does and just doesn't want to worsen my depression! I have battled w/ depression for many years. And when I saw my (new) psychiatrist (old one retired), he diagnosed me w/ Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome (among other things!) SURPRISE! SURPRISE! (NOT!!!) My other psych said I suffered Post Traumatic Stress due to all the years I've been in rescue, what I have seen, what I can't control...blah,blah, blah... You get the picture, I'm sure Anyway, this new Dr. gave me a pamphlet on PTS, to explain his diagnosis,and guess what ranks in the top 3 SEVERE MOTOR VEHICHLE ACCIDENTS! And, yes, this MVA has had a very severe impact on me, physically mentally, so I can see where he's coming from. (Now I have DOUBLE (or more) PTSD Yippee! Just what I (don't) need!) My major problem is w/ my vision. I saw a neuro-opthamologist last week and until he gets all my hosp. records, MRI's, Cat-Scans, the works, he CAN'T answer my questions either! He did say that my eyes are mis-alighned .(If that's not word, it means that they aren't working together) My right eye is really bad, and when he tested me for looking to the side, well, that eye isn't moving! I have to wear a patch to cover it, but, even that makes seeing/reading very difficult, to say the least. I used a magnifying glass when I finally got on-line tonight, or I should say, early morning. Anyway, I DID clean out my mail box, so I do intend to get back on, and sooner than I wasn't Ok, enough about me. Want to hear some GOOD news? You all know that (feral) Charity is Timmy's (My darling angel!!) mom. And I think I mentioned Black Bart, the neighborhood HUGE tom. Who is also Charity's constant companionmust be love, huh? In fact, now that Timmy has grown, I really believe that Bart is his Dad!!! Anyway, animals do have a special sense about people, and I really, really believe that both Charity Bart know that somehow I am different. Not that I was ever a threat, but I did trap Charity for spaying/exam. (At which time, she bit me so hard, my fault, I ended up in ER! Not once, but twice!) And Bart is one of those cats that would never go in trap! So, I had planned on netting him for neuter, but heck, now I couldn't even net a butterfly - Not that I ever would! Ok, the good news.Both cats are ecstatic that their meal ticket is home! (My roommate took excellent care of all my indoor furbabies, dogs cats. But he did NOT feed the ferals. He DID check barn for any newborn kittens, at my request, and there were none. Guess I did a great job spaying the female ferals/strays. I'd give myself a pat on the back, but, well, that's just another thing I can't do now.. The barn/feeding station is all the way at the back of my yard. And, walking is, let's say delicate, so I do leave out large bowls of dry food, but was only giving wet every 2-3 days.(Which the dry should be plenty 'cause prior to MVA I was able to gather all the ferals/strays, vet them, and find them homes.(Still have 4...any takers? J/K!!! They ARE with their family(me) now). Well, my dear Charity has started talking to me, and NOT in that scared tone. Very soothing gentle. Music to my ears! Although the other night she was on my neighbor's back porch when I was walking the dogs!!! I think she was giving me he__, in a nice way, and wanted her wet food! Which, as soon as I had the dogs in, I obliged. She really got to me and I figured if I can hardly see during daylight, what's the diff w/ night? And, she always knows when I go out to
military felv+ cat needs foster for 6 months
Web Page: http://operationnoblefoster.org/contact.htm Name: katie fletcher Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Military: yes Comments: i am being deployed in january for 6 months and i have a cat that has tested positive with felv. i was hoping you could help me find someone who could take care of her for me while i am away. everyone i know either does not like cats or already has one and can not take her. thank you and i hope to hear from you soon. katie fletcher p.s. since the computers on board ship do not always work when you need them to, i will give you my mom's email address too ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and she will get in touch with me with any information you might have. thanks again, katie
Re: Uveitis
Sally, If it is actually uveitis, it needs a steroid administered to it. My horse Pepsi had uveitis and went blind in the eye due to not doing this soon enough, and my cat Buddy had it and responded well to the steroid. You just don't want to use a steroid if the eye is ulcerated. A special eye exam can tell you that. There are prednisolone eye drops that they give to cats, and potentially also atropine drops. Is your vet an internist or opthalmologist? If not, if you can afford it and there is someone nearby, I highly recommend seeing a specialist about this. An opthalmologist would be best. Michelle
Re: Patty's addy for cards and letters/Attn: Belinda(list) all that sent cards
WOW Patti!!! It is so great to hear from you!! I was hoping you would get back to us.I don't know if you remember me,I started a year ago when I lost my beautiful Maizee Grace.You were one of the first to respond to me with your kind words,I still have it in Maizees file.i now have 4 big beautiful boys from the sanctuary that I volunteer at.My fourth Tristan after being there for over a year and a half ended up testing negative for felv!! I instantly took him home with me.my other 3 boys,Rafferty,CousCous and Xander are fiv+.tHey are all the best!! I sure wish you all the best in your recovery.I know you are a strong woman for what you do for animals,it takes a lot of love and courage to do that.I am finding out just how hard it is as we lose our beautiful sanctuary babies.you take care of yourself and try to keep us updated.Hugs and prayers to you and healing thoughts. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's me - the insomniac (had THAT problem prior to MVA, but now, on top of everything else, it is much worse!) First off, thanks to all of you who sent me cards (belatedly, sorry). And Terrie, as I am not on computer much, AOL just deletes e-mails after what-ever time frame they go by.. In fact, I did get on computer earlier this week (?), memory's shot so I could be wrong I did write a post about Thank-You's, condolences, the cat-jacking episode (what a WONDERFUL ending), and shelters w/ Felv and FIV cats. But that is when my computer crashed, and I couldn't send it. It's on a file somewhere, but guess what? YEP!!! The memory thing - can NOT remember where I filed it. But, I had my roomie print a copy and I will get to it when he is available.. Things are NOT going good for me post MVA injuries. I am seeing WAAAYYY TOO many Dr.s/specialists (probably a good thing - They aren't giving up!), having a zillion diff. tests done. And, all of the Dr.s can not agree on prognosis! Some say one thing, another says something diff., and the rest all have their own guesses. My neurologist did tell me that in all probability I'll never be the same as I was. But, he couldn't/wouldn't tell me just what will stay damaged. Guess he doesn't know either Or maybe he does and just doesn't want to worsen my depression! I have battled w/ depression for many years. And when I saw my (new) psychiatrist (old one retired), he diagnosed me w/ Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome (among other things!) SURPRISE! SURPRISE! (NOT!!!) My other psych said I suffered Post Traumatic Stress due to all the years I've been in rescue, what I have seen, what I can't control...blah,blah, blah... You get the picture, I'm sure Anyway, this new Dr. gave me a pamphlet on PTS, to explain his diagnosis,and guess what ranks in the top 3 SEVERE MOTOR VEHICHLE ACCIDENTS! And, yes, this MVA has had a very severe impact on me, physically mentally, so I can see where he's coming from. (Now I have DOUBLE (or more) PTSD Yippee! Just what I (don't) need!) My major problem is w/ my vision. I saw a neuro-opthamologist last week and until he gets all my hosp. records, MRI's, Cat-Scans, the works, he CAN'T answer my questions either! He did say that my eyes are mis-alighned .(If that's not word, it means that they aren't working together) My right eye is really bad, and when he tested me for looking to the side, well, that eye isn't moving! I have to wear a patch to cover it, but, even that makes seeing/reading very difficult, to say the least. I used a magnifying glass when I finally got on-line tonight, or I should say, early morning. Anyway, I DID clean out my mail box, so I do intend to get back on, and sooner than I wasn't Ok, enough about me. Want to hear some GOOD news? You all know that (feral) Charity is Timmy's (My darling angel!!) mom. And I think I mentioned Black Bart, the neighborhood HUGE tom. Who is also Charity's constant companionmust be love, huh? In fact, now that Timmy has grown, I really believe that Bart is his Dad!!! Anyway, animals do have a special sense about people, and I really, really believe that both Charity Bart know that somehow I am different. Not that I was ever a threat, but I did trap Charity for spaying/exam. (At which time, she bit me so hard, my fault, I ended up in ER! Not once, but twice!) And Bart is one of those cats that would never go in trap! So, I had planned on netting him for neuter, but heck, now I couldn't even net a butterfly - Not that I ever would! Ok, the good news.Both cats are ecstatic that their meal ticket is home! (My roommate took excellent care of all my indoor furbabies, dogs cats. But he did NOT feed the ferals. He DID check barn for any newborn kittens, at my request, and there were none. Guess I did a great job spaying the female ferals/strays. I'd give myself a pat on the back, but, well, that's
Re: Uveitis
Even after my horse Pepsi's eye was blind from uveitis, an opthalmologist (who I should have gotten to see her right away but did not know what was going on and listened to my regular vet) she was still having pain and inflammation in it. The opthalmologist was able to make that go away and keep her eye from needing to be removed (which is a bigger deal procedure in a horse than a cat anyway). Michelle In a message dated 12/1/2006 9:56:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Poor Junior’s eye is so sore. He has been through so much this year. He is already blind in this eye due to his encounter with a car. I suppose this weakness predisposed him to getting this kind of infection. I am concerned it is signaling he is not getting better. I don’t know how you folks do it. Emotionally it is tough enough. Financially I am not sure I can keep this up, especially if he keeps getting sick. I pray I wake up tomorrow and he feels somewhat better. Thanks for your support, please pray for Junior\ Sally
RE: Uveitis
I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today.good sign I hope. sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Uveitis At 07:33 PM 12/8/2006, you wrote: Ask you vet about a dose of Buprenex.It is aspirin free and stronger, It takes a very low dose be careful about giving the Asprin 2 days in a row ,you see it accumulates and causes the problems, They do not clear it from their system like dogs and people, Buprenex is a VERY safe and effective pain killerSome of the more old fashioned not up to speed vets are unfamiliar with it,,,you can do a bit of educating.. Kelly I did not know how bad his eye hurt until he got home. The vet mentioned that aspirin was good for the inflammation. I am not sure why he did not just tell me to give him some. Although I do not like giving a cat aspirin I did give him about 1/3 of a baby aspirin last night. Best as I can tell he can probably get another dose tomorrow. I think when my sisters cat Fluffy had a blood clot many years ago she was given aspirin daily. I remember how much pain she was in. It was like a miracle how quickly the aspirin took away the pain and eventually dissolved the clot. She had partial paralysis of her hind legs due to the clot. He actually had his eye open today. It still looks bad but I think it is better than yesterday. Junior slept all day. I gave him L lysine 500 mg twice today in his baby food. He did not seem interested in eating anything else. His weight is good so a few days off his food should not be a problem. Tiny is a real trooper even after all the vaccinations he got yesterday. He was a little less active today, but he still played and tried to sneak outside. He is the only cat I know who does not play catch me if you can when he gets away. All I had to do was call his name, and click to him and he came right to me. He really hates being inside all the time. The birds would not use the feeder I put outside my window. It has been there 3 weeks. It shouldnt have taken them more than a week to find it. I moved it today to the side yard. More cover for the birds on the side of the house. I was hoping to give Tiny some entertainment since his favorite sport was catching yes and eating birds. I did hate him doing that. The rest of the cats are doing well. Hopefully we caught the FeLV before it spread to them. Several of the cats had the same or more exposure than Tiny did. Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis Can the vet give you some meds for pain? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Uveitis At this point his eye hurts so bad I cant get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead. I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If it were he would not be able to see. I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV. Any other suggestions? Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: 12/2/2006
Re: Patty's addy for cards and letters/Attn: Belinda(list) all that sent cards
Hi Patty, It's so good to hear from you .We have been very worried and a little afraid to ask about your condition. I can't handle bad news very well now . It seems as if we have so many losses , but hearing from you makes my day. I'm so sorry that Cornelius left you .I lost my dog Ginger 17 the same way one minute fine next minute dead at my feet of heart attack. I will pray that Puma will be alright. Thank your roomie for us for taking good care of you and your fur babies.You are so brave and strong I truly believe that you will soon start to see great improvements with your health. You will be in my Prayers. Love, Sheila
more info on the FeLV military cat: VA / IN
-- Forwarded message -- From: Fletcher, Katherine HT3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 3, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Kitty info To: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] My cat Cleo is a 2 year old calico female. She is located in Norfolk, VA. Also I am willing to take her anywhere around Kendalville, IN, since that is where my mom lives. She is kind of skitish but very loving and cuddly at night. I don't know about dog or kid friendly since I've never seen her around either. She does get along well with my other cat Kallie. If there is anything else that could be of use let me know please. Thank you. ~Katie -Original Message- From: TenHouseCats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:07 PM To: Fletcher, Katherine HT3; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: your FeLV kitty hi, katie (and her mom!) i've posted your request for a foster on two of the FeLV-specific lists (in addition to the ones where linda mercer posted)-- where is the cat? and how old, etc.--that'll make it easier for folks to know if they can help out. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Need advice please
I posted yesterday knowing full well everybody was SHOPPING. Hopefully today is better for computer time. We have a number of feral cats on which we need to determine Felv status, therefore we are looking for in-home test kits. I searched the archives of FelvTalk but got myself really confused (not unusual). I notice on line that different in-home kits are available (Revival even carries two). Of course what I want is reliability. So my big question: is the saliva test as reliable as the blood test for diagnosing Felv?Does anyone have a recommendation of brand and source? I would deeply appreciate advice from others who know more than I (which is almost nothing!). Thanks, Pat in WI
Re: Need advice please
Pat, I have read that the saliva test is not as accurate yet. In fact, I didn't realize they were marketing it at this point. I can't quote percentages or remember where I came across that in my reading - perhaps some of those more expert on the list will add what they know. elizabeth *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Need advice please I posted yesterday knowing full well everybody was SHOPPING. Hopefully today is better for computer time. We have a number of feral cats on which we need to determine Felv status, therefore we are looking for in-home test kits. I searched the archives of FelvTalk but got myself really confused (not unusual). I notice on line that different in-home kits are available (Revival even carries two). Of course what I want is reliability. So my big question: is the saliva test as reliable as the blood test for diagnosing Felv? Does anyone have a recommendation of brand and source? I would deeply appreciate advice from others who know more than I (which is almost nothing!). Thanks, Pat in WI Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Re: Patty's addy for cards and letters/Attn: Belinda(list) all that sent cards
Hello Patti!! So very nice to hear from you. I've thought about you so often. I haven't been on the list much lately. What a pleasure to check in and see your update. I can only imagine the struggle you are going through recovering from your accident. Many prayers and good wishes for strength and keeping an optimistic outlook. I've heard from several of our list members that they too suffer from depression. I know that anyone that does rescue battles it in one form or another, myself definitely included. It's not one bit surprising that you are dealing with it. Perhaps there's some consultation knowing you have excellent reasons for yours :) . Please know that you are in our thoughts and we are all sending you our love. I'm sorry to hear about Cornelius. One of my mom's cats went the same way, here one minute, gone the next. So sad and so hard to process without any warning, but at least he never suffered the way so many of our loved ones do. It's hard on us when it happens that way, not getting to say goodbye and all, but it's easier on them. Knowing you, I'm sure he knew he was loved. I think we sometimes put to much emphasis on the final moments. What's really important is how we live our lives together, in the day to day love and care we show each other. Cornelius never suffered the way so many of our loved ones do, that's something to be grateful for. As far as saying goodbye, it's never too late. I'm sure he can still hear you when you talk to him and about him. Please let us know how Puma is doing. What were the symptoms that caused you to seek testing? I'm glad you know about the toxo, at least it's treatable. The high titer might just be that; a high titer. I'm thrilled to hear about Charity!! That girl is so special. I remember when she went missing and how distraught you were about it. That was during cold weather too. Could that have been a year ago? What a breakthrough to have her trilling to you and smelling your hand. A small group of ferals that I take care of are losing their home and I was able to capture a beautiful long haired black girl named Barbara. I brought her to my outside habitat and after a couple of months she started to let me touch her. This is a cat that has never been touched in all of her 6 or 7 years, she trusted me to a point when she was free, but I could never touch her. It's truly amazing. I cried like a baby the first time. Now she comes running to me when I approach and snuggles up purring when I put my arms around her. She rubs her face against mine and I trust her completely. What a joy! I'm betting that Charity will come around to that kind of trust too. Getting Barbie contained and feeling safe made all the difference in gaining that trust. About capturing Black Bart for neuter... Have you ever used a drop trap? I swear by them now for catching the really wily trap wise guys. I wish there were a way for me to come and catch him for you. You must be in touch with someone able bodied that you've met through rescue. I'd be happy to forward the drop trap design that I used to them. Everyone that rescues and does TNR should have one! I didn't mean to write so much. I know you have a hard time reading. I'm just so excited to see you posting. Patti, please remember how very appreciated you are, not only by the four leggers you help, but by us two leggers as well. We earthlings need you to stick around!! Here's a big hug! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's me - the insomniac (had THAT problem prior to MVA, but now, on top of everything else, it is much worse!)
Re: OT been busy,thinking about everyone and a question???
Hello Kayte! I'm so pleased to hear how well Crackers is doing. He's such an adorable fluff muffin! Speaking of adorable... What kind of special school are you sending AJ to? I've fallen head over heels in love with your sweet son, he's got such a huge heart, (as does his mom). Please keep in touch, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Hi everyone!* *I have been soo busy the past few weeks and a few have emailed me! Im just getting caught up! I have been at meetings and meetings but finally got my son into a special needs school!:) My baby Crackers is doing excellent! No sickness playing like a kitten and eating fine. Next month he is to be rechecked for his FELV status. But I am not sweating that because I have learned so much from you guys. I am soo sorry for the pets that have gone to the bridge and that are sick.:( Here's the question? LOL I will be sending out Christmas cards and who ever would like one can you please send me your mailing address! I have gotten a bunch of Italian charms with of course kitties on them:) and would like to send to anyone interested in your card. Hope you all had a GREAT Thanksgiving full of love and happiness!* *Love* *Kayte and Crackers* *PS my email is the same as this name @aol.*
Re: Need advice please
Thanks Elizabeth. I was kind of afraid that would be true. I do want to use what's accurate. Nest, Pat - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Need advice please Pat, I have read that the saliva test is not as accurate yet. In fact, I didn't realize they were marketing it at this point. I can't quote percentages or remember where I came across that in my reading - perhaps some of those more expert on the list will add what they know. elizabeth *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Need advice please I posted yesterday knowing full well everybody was SHOPPING. Hopefully today is better for computer time. We have a number of feral cats on which we need to determine Felv status, therefore we are looking for in-home test kits. I searched the archives of FelvTalk but got myself really confused (not unusual). I notice on line that different in-home kits are available (Revival even carries two). Of course what I want is reliability. So my big question: is the saliva test as reliable as the blood test for diagnosing Felv?Does anyone have a recommendation of brand and source? I would deeply appreciate advice from others who know more than I (which is almost nothing!). Thanks, Pat in WI Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/565 - Release Date: 12/2/2006
Re: Need advice please
Hi Pat, What is your situation with these ferals? Are you giving them sanctuary and need to know their status for separate housing purposes, or are you planing to release those that test neg? What would you do with any that test pos? I don't have any experience with the saliva tests you mention, but I do know that the snap test ELISAs are notorious for false pos. I wouldn't determine the fate of any healthy appearing cat on any test without being prepared to retest in 6 mos for a more accurate determination. Even a true pos result doesn't necessarily indicate that the cat will remain felv pos, esp when testing kittens. Being someone that cares enough to research, you probably are already aware of this, but while we're on the subject of testing kittens... Please don't take the short cut that so many rescues and vets suggest of testing only one kitten per litter. Sometimes the blood of all the kittens is mixed and then tested as well. Each cat must be tested separately, even if one kitten tests pos, it doesn't mean they all will. I have no idea what your situation is, thank you for doing your best to help them. Obviously you are working hard to be responsible when so many humans are not. Many TNR programs forgo the testing process all together with asymptomatic cats. There is an excellent article on the reasoning behind this that I'll look for if you're interested. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, I have read that the saliva test is not as accurate yet. In fact, I didn't realize they were marketing it at this point. I can't quote percentages or remember where I came across that in my reading - perhaps some of those more expert on the list will add what they know. elizabeth *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 2:52 PM Subject: Need advice please I posted yesterday knowing full well everybody was SHOPPING. Hopefully today is better for computer time. We have a number of feral cats on which we need to determine Felv status, therefore we are looking for in-home test kits. I searched the archives of FelvTalk but got myself really confused (not unusual). I notice on line that different in-home kits are available (Revival even carries two). Of course what I want is reliability. So my big question: is the saliva test as reliable as the blood test for diagnosing Felv?Does anyone have a recommendation of brand and source? I would deeply appreciate advice from others who know more than I (which is almost nothing!). Thanks, Pat in WI *Check out the new AOL* http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Elizabeth - glad you're feeling better
I'm glad to hear you are feeling better Elizabeth. It sounds like you were hit with a very nasty case of food poisoning to have lost 12 lbs in 3 days! To be out of town on top of it, you poor thing! What a lousy diet plan you've come up with! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Terrie. I hope your business trip is better than mine. I had to go out of town for a week and Wednesday I got a very severe form of food poisoning. I thought I would die. I've lost 12lbs in 3 days. I'm glad to say that I think I will live now...but I'm not completely convinced. elizabeth
Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)
Hi Sally, I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's eye... If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist. I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods. Have you been to a specialist for his eye? Maybe your vet could just consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation? Speaking of old fashioned pain meds... I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs. It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth. I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm Nina Sally wrote: I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today...good sign I hope. sally
Re: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis)--ketoprofen in dogs
Hi Nina! I just wanted to caution the use of ketoprofen in dogs...it's rare, but severe ulceration of the GI tract can occur as a side effect of the drug...we actually had it happen at the clinic. A young dog died as a result of a severe allergic reaction to ketoprofen...hence we've trashed our remaining supply of the drug and will no longer be using it as a pain reliever. Like I said, it's *rare* to witness such a severe allergic reaction...but I assisted on the necropsy of this dog and couldn't believe what I saw! :( But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 5:28 pm Subject: Sally - pain meds (was Uveitis) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Sally, I just wanted to comment on getting the antibiotic ointment in Junior's eye... If you put a line of the ointment on your finger and gently apply it to his closed eye, (on the line where his eyelids meet), at least some will go in his eye and it should help at least keep his eye moist. I didn't see you comment on Michelle's post about steriods. Have you been to a specialist for his eye? Maybe your vet could just consult with an ophthalmologist over the phone to see what they think of the situation? Speaking of old fashioned pain meds... I have used Ketofen syrup for dogs. It doesn't taste bad, slight medicine taste, but not bitter and the the dosage, (at least for small dogs), is small enough that I'm betting it could be hidden in some baby food, or easily squirted in his mouth. I did a quick search on it to see if it can be given to cats and came up with the following site on pain control for dogs and cats: http://www.2ndchance.info/pain.htm Nina Sally wrote: I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today...good sign I hope. sally
