Re: Plastic Bag Kitties

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Sometimes I open two paper grocery bags and put them at an angle to  
each other and the kitties sit in them, waiting for each other to  
make a move.  It's so funny!


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 21, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Kelly L wrote:


At 10:24 PM 5/20/2007, you wrote:




Plastic bags can be very dangerous to kitties, they can chew part  
off and choke, but more common is they get it tangled around their  
necks where the handles are and strangle themselves, Paper bags are  
safe fun for kitties.

Kelly


Please make sure you are watching him closely when he is playing  
with plastic bags.  Like a baby, they can suffocate and/or eat  
pieces that may not pass thru his system.







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who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter  
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal  
likewise with their fellow man.
   
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- Original Message -
From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:58 PM
Subject: Plastic Bag Kitties

My adorable tuxedo Billi Bi loves those plastic bags from the  
grocery or the pharmacy.  He tries to cram all eight pounds of his  
lanky self into them.  Billi Bi is part Siamese and has the voice  
to prove it!


Also, years ago I read that cats adored those thin brown tissue  
dress patterns.  They could eat them (yum, yum).


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 12, 2007, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Okay, I have a Siamese ever since he was a baby (6 weeks old rescue)
he has a fetish for plastic. Especially the plastic bags from the  
grocery stores it doesn't matter which store it's from.

He will lick it or love it.
He has been tested and there is nothing medically wrong with him.
He is almost 5 years old.
Anyone have a kitty that does this?

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ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Nina
Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where the 
urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you do).  Well, someone 
has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did it.  I'm assuming 
they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices around the opening of 
the door, but I guess it could be in the air filter.  All I know is that 
I've scrubbed and sprayed and scrubbed some more.  Every time I think 
it's safe to dry a load of clothes they come out of the dryer smelling 
not springtime fresh, but of fresh kitty.  Whoever marked the dryer must 
be thrilled, everything smells of their scent now.  Any suggestions?  Do 
I have to get a new dryer and house it behind chain link?

Nina




Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Tad Burnett

I bet its on the floor under the dryer...
Tad

Nina wrote:

Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where the 
urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you do).  Well, someone 
has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did it.  I'm 
assuming they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices around the 
opening of the door, but I guess it could be in the air filter.  All I 
know is that I've scrubbed and sprayed and scrubbed some more.  Every 
time I think it's safe to dry a load of clothes they come out of the 
dryer smelling not springtime fresh, but of fresh kitty.  Whoever 
marked the dryer must be thrilled, everything smells of their scent 
now.  Any suggestions?  Do I have to get a new dryer and house it 
behind chain link?

Nina









Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Kelly L

At 08:31 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


Don't laugh , but last week i purchased a fire place screen to i 
could put it to the wall heaters to protect them from the same thing.
Have you considered putting some wet and vinegar soaked towels in the 
dryier and running it for a while??

Kelly


I bet its on the floor under the dryer...
Tad

Nina wrote:

Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where 
the urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you do).  Well, 
someone has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did 
it.  I'm assuming they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices 
around the opening of the door, but I guess it could be in the air 
filter.  All I know is that I've scrubbed and sprayed and scrubbed 
some more.  Every time I think it's safe to dry a load of clothes 
they come out of the dryer smelling not springtime fresh, but of 
fresh kitty.  Whoever marked the dryer must be thrilled, everything 
smells of their scent now.  Any suggestions?  Do I have to get a 
new dryer and house it behind chain link?

Nina








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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

I don't even try anymore - well, I do, but clearly it is ineffective.
They actually moved me at work so that I have a 2 seat buffer between
me and the next closest person in any direction.  *sigh*.   I have two
cats on behavior meds for inappropriate urination and it helps to a
point, but only to a point.

On 5/21/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm thinking of draping my whole house in wet vinegar towels!  I'll pull
the dryer out and scrub the floors and try the wet towel trick.  I keep
thinking of the little perfumed sachets my mother used to keep in her
lingerie drawer, far far cry from that!
Thanks,
Nina


Kelly L wrote:
 At 08:31 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


 Don't laugh , but last week i purchased a fire place screen to i could
 put it to the wall heaters to protect them from the same thing.
 Have you considered putting some wet and vinegar soaked towels in the
 dryier and running it for a while??
 Kelly

 I bet its on the floor under the dryer...
 Tad

 Nina wrote:

 Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where
 the urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you do).  Well,
 someone has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did it.
 I'm assuming they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices
 around the opening of the door, but I guess it could be in the air
 filter.  All I know is that I've scrubbed and sprayed and scrubbed
 some more.  Every time I think it's safe to dry a load of clothes
 they come out of the dryer smelling not springtime fresh, but of
 fresh kitty.  Whoever marked the dryer must be thrilled, everything
 smells of their scent now.  Any suggestions?  Do I have to get a new
 dryer and house it behind chain link?
 Nina







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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Kelly L

At 08:45 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


I was at BEST FRIENDS last week for the workshop, Sitting in one of 
the dog areas listening to a talk on detecting stress in dogs 
etc,,Well as I leaned forward I got that strange familar 
whiffI kept hoping it was coming for elsewhere,, No 
chanceMy shirt had that familiar yellow patch that i did not see 
as i got dressed in the hotel that morning,

A trip to the bathroom and a wet shirt for the next few hours
I always carry spare shoes and clothes in my car,,,
Kelly


I'm thinking of draping my whole house in wet vinegar towels!  I'll 
pull the dryer out and scrub the floors and try the wet towel 
trick.  I keep thinking of the little perfumed sachets my mother 
used to keep in her lingerie drawer, far far cry from that!

Thanks,
Nina


Kelly L wrote:

At 08:31 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


Don't laugh , but last week i purchased a fire place screen to i 
could put it to the wall heaters to protect them from the same thing.
Have you considered putting some wet and vinegar soaked towels in 
the dryier and running it for a while??

Kelly


I bet its on the floor under the dryer...
Tad

Nina wrote:

Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where 
the urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you 
do).  Well, someone has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did it.
I'm assuming they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices 
around the opening of the door, but I guess it could be in the 
air filter.  All I know is that I've scrubbed and sprayed and 
scrubbed some more.  Every time I think it's safe to dry a load 
of clothes they come out of the dryer smelling not springtime 
fresh, but of fresh kitty.  Whoever marked the dryer must be 
thrilled, everything smells of their scent now.  Any 
suggestions?  Do I have to get a new dryer and house it behind chain link?

Nina







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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

My cats peed in my purse once.  Sigh.  I had to buy another purse.

On 5/21/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 08:45 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


I was at BEST FRIENDS last week for the workshop, Sitting in one of
the dog areas listening to a talk on detecting stress in dogs
etc,,Well as I leaned forward I got that strange familar
whiffI kept hoping it was coming for elsewhere,, No
chanceMy shirt had that familiar yellow patch that i did not see
as i got dressed in the hotel that morning,
A trip to the bathroom and a wet shirt for the next few hours
I always carry spare shoes and clothes in my car,,,
Kelly


I'm thinking of draping my whole house in wet vinegar towels!  I'll
pull the dryer out and scrub the floors and try the wet towel
trick.  I keep thinking of the little perfumed sachets my mother
used to keep in her lingerie drawer, far far cry from that!
Thanks,
Nina


Kelly L wrote:
At 08:31 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


Don't laugh , but last week i purchased a fire place screen to i
could put it to the wall heaters to protect them from the same thing.
Have you considered putting some wet and vinegar soaked towels in
the dryier and running it for a while??
Kelly

I bet its on the floor under the dryer...
Tad

Nina wrote:

Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where
the urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you
do).  Well, someone has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did 
it.
I'm assuming they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices
around the opening of the door, but I guess it could be in the
air filter.  All I know is that I've scrubbed and sprayed and
scrubbed some more.  Every time I think it's safe to dry a load
of clothes they come out of the dryer smelling not springtime
fresh, but of fresh kitty.  Whoever marked the dryer must be
thrilled, everything smells of their scent now.  Any
suggestions?  Do I have to get a new dryer and house it behind chain link?
Nina






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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread elizabeth trent

Oh no!  Nina, you have all my sympathy.  Ode de kitty toilette is
definitely not the nicest fragrance - especially for warm weather.  Have you
tried spraying with 'Urine Gone'?  That helps me a lot with Shakiti (aka -
magic marker) in the house.  I saw some a CVS last week.  You can order it
online too.  I am so sorry!

elizabeth


On 5/21/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Remember the thread where everyone was trying to figure out where the
urine odor was coming from?  (Kelley, I'm sure you do).  Well, someone
has contaminated my dryer.  I'm not sure how they did it.  I'm assuming
they backed up, aimed and fired into the crevices around the opening of
the door, but I guess it could be in the air filter.  All I know is that
I've scrubbed and sprayed and scrubbed some more.  Every time I think
it's safe to dry a load of clothes they come out of the dryer smelling
not springtime fresh, but of fresh kitty.  Whoever marked the dryer must
be thrilled, everything smells of their scent now.  Any suggestions?  Do
I have to get a new dryer and house it behind chain link?
Nina





Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Nina
My sister's cat peed in my dad's napsack the night before he was to 
board a plane with it.  Ah the delights of being owned by cats.


Kelly,
At least at Best Friends you were among compatriots who would 
understand.  I bet if you had taken a look around you, you would have 
caught several others in the group sneaking a sniff at their own t-shirts!


Kelley Saveika wrote:

My cats peed in my purse once.  Sigh.  I had to buy another purse.

On 5/21/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 08:45 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


I was at BEST FRIENDS last week for the workshop, Sitting in one of
the dog areas listening to a talk on detecting stress in dogs
etc,,Well as I leaned forward I got that strange familar
whiffI kept hoping it was coming for elsewhere,, No
chanceMy shirt had that familiar yellow patch that i did not see
as i got dressed in the hotel that morning,
A trip to the bathroom and a wet shirt for the next few hours
I always carry spare shoes and clothes in my car,,,
Kelly 





Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Nina
Thanks for the sympathy.  The dryer is such an ingenuous touch.  How 
clever this particular little fiend is, (I don't know which of my clan 
is the culprit).  Not only does the dryer bake in the fragrance, but 
it is then carried about all over the house, (not to mention everywhere 
I might travel).  It's so darn efficient of them!  All the fabric throws 
covering the furniture are now pre-marked :-) .

Nina

elizabeth trent wrote:
Oh no!  Nina, you have all my sympathy.  Ode de kitty toilette is 
definitely not the nicest fragrance - especially for warm weather.  
Have you tried spraying with 'Urine Gone'?  That helps me a lot 
with Shakiti (aka - magic marker) in the house.  I saw some a CVS last 
week.  You can order it online too.  I am so sorry!
 
elizabeth





RE: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Wolf, Leah R.
Many years ago our cat peed in my son's basket of fresh laundry just before
we left for vacation.  We didn't realize what had happened until we were on
the plane and I became aware of a powerful odor on Andrew's person, which
turned out to be the clothes he had retrieved from the basket and was
wearing.  We had to change planes, so we made a beeline for a gift shop in
search of clean clothes to wear for the rest of the flight.  As soon as we
checked into the hotel at our destination, I bagged up everything in his
suitcase and took it to the front desk to be laundered.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

My sister's cat peed in my dad's napsack the night before he was to board a
plane with it.  Ah the delights of being owned by cats.

Kelly,
At least at Best Friends you were among compatriots who would understand.  I
bet if you had taken a look around you, you would have caught several others
in the group sneaking a sniff at their own t-shirts!

Kelley Saveika wrote:
 My cats peed in my purse once.  Sigh.  I had to buy another purse.

 On 5/21/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 08:45 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


 I was at BEST FRIENDS last week for the workshop, Sitting in one of 
 the dog areas listening to a talk on detecting stress in dogs 
 etc,,Well as I leaned forward I got that strange familar 
 whiffI kept hoping it was coming for elsewhere,, No 
 chanceMy shirt had that familiar yellow patch that i did not see 
 as i got dressed in the hotel that morning, A trip to the bathroom 
 and a wet shirt for the next few hours I always carry spare shoes 
 and clothes in my car,,, Kelly





Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

At least you can smell it.  I can't smell it anymore:(

On 5/21/07, Wolf, Leah R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Many years ago our cat peed in my son's basket of fresh laundry just before
we left for vacation.  We didn't realize what had happened until we were on
the plane and I became aware of a powerful odor on Andrew's person, which
turned out to be the clothes he had retrieved from the basket and was
wearing.  We had to change planes, so we made a beeline for a gift shop in
search of clean clothes to wear for the rest of the flight.  As soon as we
checked into the hotel at our destination, I bagged up everything in his
suitcase and took it to the front desk to be laundered.


Leah
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

My sister's cat peed in my dad's napsack the night before he was to board a
plane with it.  Ah the delights of being owned by cats.

Kelly,
At least at Best Friends you were among compatriots who would understand.  I
bet if you had taken a look around you, you would have caught several others
in the group sneaking a sniff at their own t-shirts!

Kelley Saveika wrote:
 My cats peed in my purse once.  Sigh.  I had to buy another purse.

 On 5/21/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 08:45 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:


 I was at BEST FRIENDS last week for the workshop, Sitting in one of
 the dog areas listening to a talk on detecting stress in dogs
 etc,,Well as I leaned forward I got that strange familar
 whiffI kept hoping it was coming for elsewhere,, No
 chanceMy shirt had that familiar yellow patch that i did not see
 as i got dressed in the hotel that morning, A trip to the bathroom
 and a wet shirt for the next few hours I always carry spare shoes
 and clothes in my car,,, Kelly







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Re: To Elizabeth: Re: OT -- just for laughs :0)

2007-05-21 Thread wendy
LOL...I can just see Phelix doing his commandeering of
the vaccuum.  hehe.  I took Pepper in and she was
indeed impacted.  The vet tech fixed her right up,
they charged me $20, and we were on our way.  She also
showed me how to do it.  She still had diarrhea Sunday
morning, so we took us a bath and got all prettied up
again.  But since then, she seems to be doing fine. 
I'm thinking the antibiotics might be contributing to
the diarrhea.  I need to get her some pumpkin today. 
I'm hoping her next BM will be a more consistent one. 
Thanks for asking Elizabeth.

:)
Wendy

--- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried it on Phelix this morning with the
 Dysonhe didn't go for that
 LOL  He does help me vacuum though -- he has to
 direct and supervise
 though...he tells me where I need to go next :0)
 
 How's your baby doing, Wendy???
 
 elizabeth
 
 
 On 5/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is HILARIOUS!!!  I wish my cats would go for
  this!!!
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
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Re: Anyone know how much it is for anal sac removal?

2007-05-21 Thread wendy
I will make sure to give everyone a play-by-play when
I embark on this adventurous journey...lol.  Thanks
for the advice.  I will be attempting this in a couple
of weeks or so...  

:)
Wendy

--- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ask him about increasing roughage for her in an
 effort to get her to express 
 them herself.  The glands are pretty easy to locate
 according to my 
 alternative vet.  Betty has shown me how to do them
 and she does her own cat 
 in a cat sack.  Both her cat and mine are fully
 clawed.  Hers runs over 20 
 pounds so I think you can manage your little girl. 
 Just remember to wear 
 old clothes in case you get some on you. 
 YUCK!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 you have men who will 
 exclude any of God's creatures
 
 from the shelter of 
 compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
 will deal likewise with 
 their fellow man.
 
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 Francis
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Anyone know how much it is for anal sac
 removal?
 
 
  Hey Marylyn,
 
  I'm taking her in this afternoon to have them
  expressed.  I thought maybe I could do it after
  watching the vet do it a couple of times; it
 didn't
  look like rocket science.  Yesterday, I got a cot
 for
  my finger, some vaseline, and took her in the
  bathroom.  Put her in my arms like a baby, poked
  around a little bit, but mechanically it just
 didn't
  look like things would fit, so I opted not to try
 for
  fear of hurting her.  I am going to ask the vet if
  he'll show me how to do it for future reference. 
 He
  doesn't do the surgery and didn't know anyone who
 does
  around here, but I'm going to look into it
 further.
 
  :)
  Wendy
 
  --- Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Have you tried having them expressed every (very)
  few weeks and seeing if
  they will clear up on their own?  You can do this
  yourself.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 If
  you have men who will
  exclude any of God's creatures
 
  from the shelter of
  compassion and pity, you will have men who
 
  will deal likewise with
  their fellow man.
 
   St.
  Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:02 PM
  Subject: OT: Anyone know how much it is for anal
 sac
  removal?
 
 
   Hey guys,
  
   I think I might have to have my furbaby,
 Pepper's,
   anal sacs removed.  Hers are impacted again for
  the
   third time in a year and it's at least a
 hundred
  bucks
   everytime this happens.  Does anyone know how
 much
  it
   might cost?  I'm scared to find out!
  
   Thanks,
   Wendy
  
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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Nina
I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on deterioration 
effects of the olfactory senses from living with too many cats.  My 
sniffer isn't what it used to be either.  Perhaps it's a blessing in 
disguise, but it does little for our social lives.  I've had people in 
check out lines ask me about my pets.  I'll quick sniff at my clothing 
but so far it's been more the tell tale dog and cat hair and not problem 
odors.  I have little chance of getting away with a spontaneous murder.  
I carry way too much traceable dna with me wherever I go.

N

Kelley Saveika wrote:

At least you can smell it.  I can't smell it anymore:(





Re: To Elizabeth: Re: OT -- just for laughs :0)

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
I'm sure the antibiotics are.  Do you think she needs some probiotics  
to replace those good intestinal bugs that the antibiotics killed?


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 21, 2007, at 12:36 PM, wendy wrote:


LOL...I can just see Phelix doing his commandeering of
the vaccuum.  hehe.  I took Pepper in and she was
indeed impacted.  The vet tech fixed her right up,
they charged me $20, and we were on our way.  She also
showed me how to do it.  She still had diarrhea Sunday
morning, so we took us a bath and got all prettied up
again.  But since then, she seems to be doing fine.
I'm thinking the antibiotics might be contributing to
the diarrhea.  I need to get her some pumpkin today.
I'm hoping her next BM will be a more consistent one.
Thanks for asking Elizabeth.

:)
Wendy

--- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried it on Phelix this morning with the
Dysonhe didn't go for that
LOL  He does help me vacuum though -- he has to
direct and supervise
though...he tells me where I need to go next :0)

How's your baby doing, Wendy???

elizabeth


On 5/19/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This is HILARIOUS!!!  I wish my cats would go for
this!!!

:)
Wendy

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http://www.glumbert.com/media/catvacuum

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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Something just dawned on me.  You know how Nordie's has those little  
containers of coffee beans to sniff between testing perfumes?  I used  
to manage a coffee store and I always smelled like fresh coffee.   
People in  check-out lines would ask me what the wonderful coffee was  
in my basket--and there was none!  Maybe little sachets of ground  
coffee in our pockets would work.  !?


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Nina wrote:

I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on deterioration  
effects of the olfactory senses from living with too many cats.  My  
sniffer isn't what it used to be either.  Perhaps it's a blessing  
in disguise, but it does little for our social lives.  I've had  
people in check out lines ask me about my pets.  I'll quick sniff  
at my clothing but so far it's been more the tell tale dog and cat  
hair and not problem odors.  I have little chance of getting away  
with a spontaneous murder.  I carry way too much traceable dna with  
me wherever I go.

N

Kelley Saveika wrote:

At least you can smell it.  I can't smell it anymore:(








Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread elizabeth trent

What a great idea!

On 5/21/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Something just dawned on me.  You know how Nordie's has those little
containers of coffee beans to sniff between testing perfumes?  I used
to manage a coffee store and I always smelled like fresh coffee.
People in  check-out lines would ask me what the wonderful coffee was
in my basket--and there was none!  Maybe little sachets of ground
coffee in our pockets would work.  !?

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Nina wrote:

 I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on deterioration
 effects of the olfactory senses from living with too many cats.  My
 sniffer isn't what it used to be either.  Perhaps it's a blessing
 in disguise, but it does little for our social lives.  I've had
 people in check out lines ask me about my pets.  I'll quick sniff
 at my clothing but so far it's been more the tell tale dog and cat
 hair and not problem odors.  I have little chance of getting away
 with a spontaneous murder.  I carry way too much traceable dna with
 me wherever I go.
 N

 Kelley Saveika wrote:
 At least you can smell it.  I can't smell it anymore:(







Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Nina
From watching crime dramas on tv, I've learned that coffee grounds are 
used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs.  Excuse me while I 
go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) .


Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote:
Something just dawned on me.  You know how Nordie's has those little 
containers of coffee beans to sniff between testing perfumes?  I used 
to manage a coffee store and I always smelled like fresh coffee.  
People in  check-out lines would ask me what the wonderful coffee was 
in my basket--and there was none!  Maybe little sachets of ground 
coffee in our pockets would work.  !?


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Nina wrote:

I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on deterioration 
effects of the olfactory senses from living with too many cats.  My 
sniffer isn't what it used to be either.  Perhaps it's a blessing in 
disguise, but it does little for our social lives.  I've had people 
in check out lines ask me about my pets.  I'll quick sniff at my 
clothing but so far it's been more the tell tale dog and cat hair and 
not problem odors.  I have little chance of getting away with a 
spontaneous murder.  I carry way too much traceable dna with me 
wherever I go.

N

Kelley Saveika wrote:

At least you can smell it.  I can't smell it anymore:(













Re: the labs are on their way

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda

   Hi Kelly,
  I'm currently using a new vet, my long time vet isn't at the clinic I 
go to anymore.  When I was using her back in 2003, she was consulting 
with Dr Ogilvie (her mentor in Vet School).  I have heard that Dr Comer, 
I think she is in Tacoma is a good vet, I think one of the people on the 
lymphoma list is using her.


Here is a list I got off the Veterinary Cancer Society website:

*Name*  *City*  *State* *Country*
Carrie Webb ()  IssaquahWA  USA
Rachel Olsen () New Castle  WA  USA
Suzanne Olson (D-ACVIM (IM))Poulsbo WA  USA
Jackie Wypij () Poulsbo WA  USA
Janean Fidel (D-ACVR (RO))  Pullman WA  USA
Erin Wendt ()   Pullman WA  USA
Richard Weller (D-ACVIM (O, IM))RichlandWA  USA
Karri Meleo (D-ACVIM (O); D-ACVR (RO))  Seattle WA  USA
Chelsea Tripp ()Seattle WA  USA
Gregory Benoit (Board eligible - internal medicine) Spokane WA  
USA
Bill Burlingame ()  StanwoodWA  USA
Karen Comer (D-ACVIM (IM))  Tacoma  WA  USA
Lisa Dzyban (D-ACVIM)   Tacoma  WA  USA
David SlocumVancouver   WA  USA


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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
You can also take your used coffee grounds and put them around the  
bases of your hydrangeas to give the soil the acidity that they  
need.  Good for the color.


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 21, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Nina wrote:

From watching crime dramas on tv, I've learned that coffee grounds  
are used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs.  Excuse me  
while I go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) .


Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote:
Something just dawned on me.  You know how Nordie's has those  
little containers of coffee beans to sniff between testing  
perfumes?  I used to manage a coffee store and I always smelled  
like fresh coffee.  People in  check-out lines would ask me what  
the wonderful coffee was in my basket--and there was none!  Maybe  
little sachets of ground coffee in our pockets would work.  !?


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Nina wrote:

I wonder if there have been any studies conducted on  
deterioration effects of the olfactory senses from living with  
too many cats.  My sniffer isn't what it used to be either.   
Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise, but it does little for our  
social lives.  I've had people in check out lines ask me about my  
pets.  I'll quick sniff at my clothing but so far it's been more  
the tell tale dog and cat hair and not problem odors.  I have  
little chance of getting away with a spontaneous murder.  I carry  
way too much traceable dna with me wherever I go.

N

Kelley Saveika wrote:

At least you can smell it.  I can't smell it anymore:(
















Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread C J
And how has it worked for you?

I started feeding a raw diet from here http://www.catnutrition.org/recipes.html 
a few weeks ago.

The problem is, i've been having crisis after crisis in my house with my 5 
cats, and am wondering if the raw diet has anything to do with it.

After Tomi got sick with anemia and he and Kisa tested positive for FeLV, I 
started out trying the raw diet, hoping to improve everyone's health.

Well last weekend, my 15 year old cat Koda died due to her liver and kidneys 
shutting down.  The vet had no idea what caused it.  

Then early last week, my 9 year old cat Link seemed a bit under the weather, 
but pulled out of it just fine.

Now, Kisa (my other FeLV) is sick.  She's never been sick, and she's almost 3 
yrs old.  Yesterday morning she vomited after I put her morning food in front 
of her (without eating anything).  She continues to vomit anytime she smells 
food.  I've tried all her favorite treats and she won't touch any of it.  She's 
been over 36 hours now since she's eaten anything.  Due to today being a 
holiday, I can't take her to the vet until tomorrow.  Hopefully she'll be safe 
from fatty liver though, since she is a normal weight.

I'm really hoping that my change to raw food isn't causing this.  My cats seem 
to really enjoy the food, and I was hoping that my older overweight ones would 
reduce to a normal weight on a natural diet, and everyone would be healthier.

If anyone has had experiences with raw food, any input would be appreciated.

Cassandra 

Re: the labs are on their way

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda

   Kelly,
  Nix that list, I for some reason thought you were asking about 
Oncology specialists.


One of my rescues, highly recomends Suzanne Gordan as a vet she used for 
her FeLV+'s (she rescued FeLV+'s only, she has since stopped rescuing, 
got overwhelmed).  She is in Gig Harbor.  Closest one I know of.  See 
her quote below:


Suzanne Gordon (who works at the emergency clinic also) is wonderful 
and may be able to catch something your vet hasn't or know of another 
thing to try.  She often talks w/ the head professor at WSU vet school 
who knows alot about FeLV, they have both helped me.  It is in Gig 
Harbor so a bit of a drive, but I have been told by many, that she is 
one of the best vets in the state, if interested her number is 
253-851-7866


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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda
Being normal weight doesn't mean she is safe from fatty liver, 
overweight cats are just more susceptible it is said, but from 
experience I'd say that's debatable.


She's been over 36 hours now since she's eaten anything.  Due to today 
being a holiday, I can't take her to the vet until tomorrow.  
Hopefully she'll be safe from fatty liver though, since she is a 
normal weight.

--

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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda
PS.  I used to feed raw and my positive did very well on it, he became a 
little chubbster.  I did lose him a year ago to pancreatic cancer 
unfortunately.


--

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Re: Plastic Bag Kitties

2007-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tigger loves those bags to play in. I can hold one open, and he will walk in
and lay down, then I can pick him up in it (like he's a sack of groceries),
and swing him around in it (he's laying down in the bag upside down at this
point, like a hammock). He chirps and then flips over and digs his claws in
and digs out through the bottom of the bag, and out he pops! He loves it,
he's a silly boy. Sometimes if I get tired of swinging him and he hasn't
decided it's time to get out yet, I hang him on a doorknob by the handles,
LOL!

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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe you can order some raw coffee beans and home roast them on high heat
in the dryer, LOL!

One thing though... I wouldn't advise doing a load of whites or light colors
in the dryer immediately after a load of coffee beans.

Phaewryn

From watching crime dramas on tv, I've learned that coffee grounds are
used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs.  Excuse me while I
go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) .


Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread elizabeth trent

OH that is too funny LOL  Sorry NinaI couldn't help laughing :0)

elizabeth


On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Maybe you can order some raw coffee beans and home roast them on high
heat in the dryer, LOL!

One thing though... I wouldn't advise doing a load of whites or light
colors in the dryer immediately after a load of coffee beans.

Phaewryn

From watching crime dramas on tv, I've learned that coffee grounds are
used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs.  Excuse me while I
go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) .




Re: Plastic Bag Kitties

2007-05-21 Thread elizabeth trent

What a blast that must be for him! LOL

elizabeth


On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Tigger loves those bags to play in. I can hold one open, and he will walk
in and lay down, then I can pick him up in it (like he's a sack of
groceries), and swing him around in it (he's laying down in the bag upside
down at this point, like a hammock). He chirps and then flips over and digs
his claws in and digs out through the bottom of the bag, and out he pops! He
loves it, he's a silly boy. Sometimes if I get tired of swinging him and he
hasn't decided it's time to get out yet, I hang him on a doorknob by the
handles, LOL!

Phaewryn

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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Marylyn
Dixie is eating the Primal raw diet and seems to love it.  All the pet food 
recalls made me really rethink her diet.  The Primal is frozen in cubes and you 
thaw what you need.  I mix hers with veggies and water just to increase the 
volume.  It is so concentrated.  She gets the calories but not the volume she 
needs to satisfy her.  It appears pretty balanced too.  I would hate to try to 
fully balance a cat's diet on my own.  I have a bunch of home-cooked   frozen 
meals for her to supplement the Primal.  In the wild or in the barn/alley 
whatever she would have some variety and I think it is good for her to as a 
person owning cat.  

Good luck with your cats.  




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  - Original Message - 
  From: C  J 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:51 PM
  Subject: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?


  And how has it worked for you?

  I started feeding a raw diet from here 
http://www.catnutrition.org/recipes.html a few weeks ago.

  The problem is, i've been having crisis after crisis in my house with my 5 
cats, and am wondering if the raw diet has anything to do with it.

  After Tomi got sick with anemia and he and Kisa tested positive for FeLV, I 
started out trying the raw diet, hoping to improve everyone's health.

  Well last weekend, my 15 year old cat Koda died due to her liver and kidneys 
shutting down.  The vet had no idea what caused it.  

  Then early last week, my 9 year old cat Link seemed a bit under the weather, 
but pulled out of it just fine.

  Now, Kisa (my other FeLV) is sick.  She's never been sick, and she's almost 3 
yrs old.  Yesterday morning she vomited after I put her morning food in front 
of her (without eating anything).  She continues to vomit anytime she smells 
food.  I've tried all her favorite treats and she won't touch any of it.  She's 
been over 36 hours now since she's eaten anything.  Due to today being a 
holiday, I can't take her to the vet until tomorrow.  Hopefully she'll be safe 
from fatty liver though, since she is a normal weight.

  I'm really hoping that my change to raw food isn't causing this.  My cats 
seem to really enjoy the food, and I was hoping that my older overweight ones 
would reduce to a normal weight on a natural diet, and everyone would be 
healthier.

  If anyone has had experiences with raw food, any input would be appreciated.

  Cassandra 

Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread C J

What sort of raw meat did you use?

I started off with ground turkey/chicken from the supermarket, but didn't 
feel comfortable with that, so I bought a meat grinder.  Now I grind up 
turkey/chicken thighs after washing them off.


I can't find organic meat in my area, so I have little choice other than to 
buy meat at the supermarket.


Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?


PS.  I used to feed raw and my positive did very well on it, he became a 
little chubbster.  I did lose him a year ago to pancreatic cancer 
unfortunately.


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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread janine paton
I fed my little Baby a raw diet until he went into a
home with leukemia cats.  He came in as a tiny little
thing with horrible URI's and sucked that stuff up
like no tomorrow.  Used Blakkatz.com or catinfo.org -
pretty much the same.  Whole chicken thighs ground up
in grinder, plus supplements, for 6 months.  He did
really, really well, and he absolutely loved it. 

Janine

--- C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What sort of raw meat did you use?
 
 I started off with ground turkey/chicken from the
 supermarket, but didn't 
 feel comfortable with that, so I bought a meat
 grinder.  Now I grind up 
 turkey/chicken thighs after washing them off.
 
 I can't find organic meat in my area, so I have
 little choice other than to 
 buy meat at the supermarket.
 
 Cassandra
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+
 cats?
 
 
  PS.  I used to feed raw and my positive did very
 well on it, he became a 
  little chubbster.  I did lose him a year ago to
 pancreatic cancer 
  unfortunately.
 
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Re: Charlie Brown - Long

2007-05-21 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry to read about Charlie.  You're in my thoughts and prayers.
  t

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Charlie Brown is leaving me. This wonderful old man has been with me for 
fifteen years. I've never had a sweeter or smarter cat in my life. He was 
diagnosed with felv four years ago. The doctor said he was very sick and he 
wouldn't make it another week and wanted to put him down, He wouldn't even give 
me antibiotics to try and help his respiratory infection. I brought him home 
gave him amoxi drops I had from another kitties uri bout, food and water and 
round the clock love and care. He started to improve right away and had been 
healthy and happy for four more years. Two days ago I woke to find him unable 
to walk. I thought he wouldn't make it through the morning, but he is still 
here. I know in my heart that he does not want to be put down in a doctors 
office he is fighting so hard to stay, as sick as he is he still tries to crawl 
to food plate. He doesn't want me to syringe feed him, he wants me to hold him 
over his plate so he can eat own his own. He is the
 toughest little guy I have ever known and I am so grateful for the last four 
years we have had together. Please pray for us both.  Sheila



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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Marissa Johnson
Hi everyone.
   
  I fed Slinky (+) raw, and am feeding Mouse (-) raw as well.  I use Nature's 
Variety frozen raw, mostly chicken and turkey (though sometimes I mix it up 
with some lamb or venison) - www.naturesvariety.com. I've found the cats have 
all loved it once they got used to it.  I, too, would be nervous about trying 
to balance it myself.  Slinky died of his felv, but I'm sure it had nothing to 
do with the raw.
   
  I asked my vet the other day (remember?  the amazing Dr. G who helped me look 
for Georgia)...an ALLOPATHIC vet...what she thinks about feeding raw.  She said 
she thinks it's the best thing for them if you do it right (said she tried it 
with her cats but they didn't like it...she was disappointed and wished they 
had).  She seemed to prefer the idea of buying pre-made since it can be tough 
to balance it.  But she said if I decided to make my own I should just use a 
trusted recipe, follow it closely, and try to avoid the ones that are high in 
grains.
   
  My best friend asked her HOMEOPATHIC vet about feeding raw to cats and she 
said she feeds her cats Nature's Variety.
   
  That's what I know about feeding raw.  There are several good books out there 
and lots of info online.  Good luck...hope they start feeling better  GLOW 
to you and the furkids.
   
  Marissa, Mouse, Georgia, Angel Slinky ^..^
   
  p.s.  Georgia has not been found yet and is still out there somewhere.  
Please keep sending glow to bring her home!!!  Thanks

C  J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  And how has it worked for you?
   
  I started feeding a raw diet from here 
http://www.catnutrition.org/recipes.html a few weeks ago.
   
  The problem is, i've been having crisis after crisis in my house with my 5 
cats, and am wondering if the raw diet has anything to do with it.
   
  After Tomi got sick with anemia and he and Kisa tested positive for FeLV, I 
started out trying the raw diet, hoping to improve everyone's health.
   
  Well last weekend, my 15 year old cat Koda died due to her liver and kidneys 
shutting down.  The vet had no idea what caused it.  
   
  Then early last week, my 9 year old cat Link seemed a bit under the weather, 
but pulled out of it just fine.
   
  Now, Kisa (my other FeLV) is sick.  She's never been sick, and she's almost 3 
yrs old.  Yesterday morning she vomited after I put her morning food in front 
of her (without eating anything).  She continues to vomit anytime she smells 
food.  I've tried all her favorite treats and she won't touch any of it.  She's 
been over 36 hours now since she's eaten anything.  Due to today being a 
holiday, I can't take her to the vet until tomorrow.  Hopefully she'll be safe 
from fatty liver though, since she is a normal weight.
   
  I'm really hoping that my change to raw food isn't causing this.  My cats 
seem to really enjoy the food, and I was hoping that my older overweight ones 
would reduce to a normal weight on a natural diet, and everyone would be 
healthier.
   
  If anyone has had experiences with raw food, any input would be appreciated.
   
  Cassandra 



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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey

Not me.

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 21, 2007, at 3:51 PM, C  J wrote:


And how has it worked for you?

I started feeding a raw diet from here http://www.catnutrition.org/ 
recipes.html a few weeks ago.


The problem is, i've been having crisis after crisis in my house  
with my 5 cats, and am wondering if the raw diet has anything to do  
with it.


After Tomi got sick with anemia and he and Kisa tested positive for  
FeLV, I started out trying the raw diet, hoping to improve  
everyone's health.


Well last weekend, my 15 year old cat Koda died due to her liver  
and kidneys shutting down.  The vet had no idea what caused it.


Then early last week, my 9 year old cat Link seemed a bit under the  
weather, but pulled out of it just fine.


Now, Kisa (my other FeLV) is sick.  She's never been sick, and  
she's almost 3 yrs old.  Yesterday morning she vomited after I put  
her morning food in front of her (without eating anything).  She  
continues to vomit anytime she smells food.  I've tried all her  
favorite treats and she won't touch any of it.  She's been over 36  
hours now since she's eaten anything.  Due to today being a  
holiday, I can't take her to the vet until tomorrow.  Hopefully  
she'll be safe from fatty liver though, since she is a normal weight.


I'm really hoping that my change to raw food isn't causing this.   
My cats seem to really enjoy the food, and I was hoping that my  
older overweight ones would reduce to a normal weight on a natural  
diet, and everyone would be healthier.


If anyone has had experiences with raw food, any input would be  
appreciated.


Cassandra





Re: Plastic Bag Kitties

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey

Delightful little kitty you have there!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 21, 2007, at 5:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tigger loves those bags to play in. I can hold one open, and he  
will walk in and lay down, then I can pick him up in it (like he's  
a sack of groceries), and swing him around in it (he's laying down  
in the bag upside down at this point, like a hammock). He chirps  
and then flips over and digs his claws in and digs out through the  
bottom of the bag, and out he pops! He loves it, he's a silly boy.  
Sometimes if I get tired of swinging him and he hasn't decided it's  
time to get out yet, I hang him on a doorknob by the handles, LOL!


Phaewryn

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Re: ot - Ever ubiquitous pee

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Excellent!  That reminds me--there is some kind of coffee bean that  
costs an arm and a leg because it has run through the digestive  
system of some small animal.  Personally, I can think of a better  
marinade than that.  Honestly, make it a rarity and people will buy  
anything!


Maybe you could use your dryer to roast and sell rare cat pee coffee  
beans--just needs a better name for marketing purposes!


Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 21, 2007, at 5:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maybe you can order some raw coffee beans and home roast them on  
high heat in the dryer, LOL!


One thing though... I wouldn't advise doing a load of whites or  
light colors in the dryer immediately after a load of coffee beans.


Phaewryn

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used to disguise the scent from drug sniffing dogs.  Excuse me while I
go throw a pound of coffee in my dryer :-) .





Re: Charlie Brown - Long

2007-05-21 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey

What a wonderful little Charlie he is!

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On May 21, 2007, at 8:23 PM, catatonya wrote:


I'm sorry to read about Charlie.  You're in my thoughts and prayers.
t

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My Charlie Brown is leaving me. This wonderful old man has been  
with me for fifteen years. I've never had a sweeter or smarter cat  
in my life. He was diagnosed with felv four years ago. The doctor  
said he was very sick and he wouldn't make it another week and  
wanted to put him down, He wouldn't even give me antibiotics to try  
and help his respiratory infection. I brought him home gave him  
amoxi drops I had from another kitties uri bout, food and water and  
round the clock love and care. He started to improve right away and  
had been healthy and happy for four more years. Two days ago I woke  
to find him unable to walk. I thought he wouldn't make it through  
the morning, but he is still here. I know in my heart that he does  
not want to be put down in a doctors office he is fighting so hard  
to stay, as sick as he is he still tries to crawl to food plate. He  
doesn't want me to syringe feed him, he wants me to hold him over  
his plate so he can eat own his own. He is the toughest little guy  
I have ever known and I am so grateful for the last four years we  
have had together. Please pray for us both.  Sheila



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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda

  Hi Cassandra,
  I also used chicken and turkey, mostly chicken, my guys don't care 
for turkey.  I also have a grinder and did the bone thing.  I used the 
recipe on the catnutrition.org site by Dr. Lisa DVM.


Most of my guys ate it but Bailey my positive LOVED it, he gained up to 
a very healthy almost 11 pounds (he is chubby at 10).


I cook for them now, Fred my CRF really likes that and has gained back 
all of the weight he had lost.  It's easier to do than raw, I cook about 
every 4 or 5 days.  Each pint jar lasts me a little over a day.  One 
whole chicken makes about 5 pints for me.  Still trying to switch the 
hard liners and haven't been able to make a good dry so thinking I'm 
going to have to just buy their dry and pray it's OK.  Some furkids can 
be real stinkers!!!


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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda
PS.  I only use Foster farm chicken it is fed food made here and the 
company is family owned.  Don't think they are organic but they are 
raised in barns and allowed to run free in the barns, not caged in tiny 
cages.


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Re: Anyone feed a raw diet to their FeLV+ cats?

2007-05-21 Thread Belinda

 I misspoke, I used recipes from this website:

http://www.catinfo.org/

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Great Snake evening excitement

2007-05-21 Thread Kelly L
Ok..So  I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats 
curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a 
gopher  or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from 
the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the 
cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could 
not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now 
what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out 
scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want 
to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats 
in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and 
scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more,
I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a 
few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get 
one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was 
almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several 
very deep bites but I got her out,
Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a 
poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards 
to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,,
the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake 
in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!!
What is strange is I have a pair of  Red Tail hawks nesting in my 
palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each 
day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting 
that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm

Kelly