Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in chest cavity

2011-05-16 Thread Natalie
Does she have congestive heart problems?
Was the fluid analyzed?

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Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:52 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fluid in chest cavity

Hello Everyone,
I've been away from the list for a very long time, but of course we 
always come back when we have a baby in trouble.  Hideyo called me and 
asked if I would contact you to help with research on how to help a 
friend of her's felv+ Tortie girl name Pistachio.

Pistachio is two years old and before this she's had no symptoms and 
been very healthy and happy.  For the last couple of weeks she's lost 
weight and recently they found out she was building up fluid in her 
chest cavity.  They removed 100cc of fluid last Friday 13th, it was 
rather clear.  They don't know what's causing (waiting for reports), so 
right now the only thing she's on is abx (I asked Hideyo which abx, and 
she said she couldn't remember the name, but had never heard of it 
before).  They don't know what's causing it, but of course because she's 
felv+ they are just blaming that.  After the fluid was removed, she 
returned to her happy self and began eating and acting normal.  She's 
still okay now, but her breathing is more labored then it would be 
normally, (faster respiratory rate).

So, here's the question...  What do you wonderful experienced people 
usually suggest first when there is fluid build up?  Are there any 
success stories, or does this usually mean the beginning of the end?  
Her friend is of course a little panicked and needs help!

Hideyo had wondered about Lasix, but the vet didn't want to use it 
because something to do with the location of the fluid deposit (she's a 
little vague about exactly why).  Hideyo was thinking Interferon, 
Imulin, some sort of diuretic herb, Rutin (sp?)...  What should they do?

I'm writing for Hideyo and her friend because Hideyo's can not get 
online until tomorrow at work.   Could you please cc any response 
directly to Hideyo's email address until she can re-join the list?
Thank you guys, bless you and your babies,
Nina




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Re: [Felvtalk] Weak+ FeLV Mom v. Baby- Test Protocols

2011-05-16 Thread Katy Doyle
I'd say if any aged cat tests consistantly positive multiple times on any
test, it is positive (faint or otherwise).

Retest the mommy (in a month or two) and kitten (when it grows up a little
more). See what happens.

I tested mine two or three times before I accepted in my mind that they were
positive and going to stay that way.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sara, a teen Mom really isn't considered an older kitty.  I'd assume both
 the Momma and kitten are positive until you get a negative test.   The FeLV+
 kittens I have rescued were all healthy and thriving until the leukemia
 raised it's ugly head when they were about a yr old.  Even though I hate to
 use weak and strong testing results, I'd have to say mine were all strong
 positives on all their tests.

 Good luck
 Sharyl

 From: M C mliciou...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:22 AM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Weak+ FeLV Mom v. Baby- Test Protocols

 We have a teen Mom kitty who tested weak positive on the felv/fiv snap
 test 1
 month after she was rescued. She had 3 kittens on a cold day out in the
 open
 before we found her. 1 kitten died the first day b/c she wasn't keeping him
 warm, 2nd one died within a week (Mom rejected  we tried to BF but he
 faded),
 3rd kitten survived conjunctivits, and is small but growing daily and
 eating
 really well.


 Since she tested weak positive, should we rest on the ELISA (sent to lab)
 test
 to make sure she even has it? We need to know b/c her surviving kitten may
 or
 may not have FeLV, depending on whether this is a false positive or if
 she's
 fighting off the infection from past exposure The kitten is only 6 weeks
 old,
 and we heard testing him now won't mean anything, so we'd have to start
 testing
 him in 1 month, then again after that IF the Mom is indeed felv positive.
 We're
 just not sure if we should assume he is felv positive b/c of the Mom's snap
 test
 result, which I know is notoriously faulty, esp. on older kitties like
 this.


 Thanks in advance,

 Sara
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Re: [Felvtalk] Weak+ FeLV Mom v. Baby- Test Protocols

2011-05-16 Thread Lynda Wilson
I would retest the mom 30 days from the first ELISA test, the kitten in 90 
days. If either are positive on the ELISA, do an IFA test for confirmation.


Good luck! I sure hope they both clear the virus!! Keep us posted.

Lynda
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From: M C mliciou...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:22 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Weak+ FeLV Mom v. Baby- Test Protocols


We have a teen Mom kitty who tested weak positive on the felv/fiv snap 
test 1
month after she was rescued. She had 3 kittens on a cold day out in the 
open
before we found her. 1 kitten died the first day b/c she wasn't keeping 
him
warm, 2nd one died within a week (Mom rejected  we tried to BF but he 
faded),
3rd kitten survived conjunctivits, and is small but growing daily and 
eating

really well.


Since she tested weak positive, should we rest on the ELISA (sent to 
lab) test
to make sure she even has it? We need to know b/c her surviving kitten may 
or
may not have FeLV, depending on whether this is a false positive or if 
she's
fighting off the infection from past exposure The kitten is only 6 weeks 
old,
and we heard testing him now won't mean anything, so we'd have to start 
testing
him in 1 month, then again after that IF the Mom is indeed felv positive. 
We're
just not sure if we should assume he is felv positive b/c of the Mom's 
snap test
result, which I know is notoriously faulty, esp. on older kitties like 
this.



Thanks in advance,

Sara
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[Felvtalk] Just some happy stuff about cats!

2011-05-16 Thread Natalie
Henry, the feline fiber artist. He does good work - see
http://henrythefelinefiberartist.wordpress.com/. 

 

Nora, the piano-playing cat, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0zgQAp7EYw.


 

Now we know why Americans spend more money on cat food annually than on baby
food. With babies stuff just goes in one end and out the other - but cats
are artists!  

 

Natalie =^..^=

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fluid in chest cavity

2011-05-16 Thread dlgegg
I hope I will never hve to use it, but Missouri University just established  an 
animal cancer treatment center less than 1 hour from me.  Now, if something 
comes up, it is a shorter drive than going all the way to Columbia.  Nice to 
have something like that so close by.


 Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: 
 My romeo developed very labored breathing very quickly. Then fluid in lyngs 
 was found n when they analyzed fluid n took xrays, they found lymphoma. Not 
 to asume the same w this cat, but things went very bad w. Romeo very quickly.

Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G

vixen...@verizon.net wrote:

Hello Everyone,
I've been away from the list for a very long time, but of course we 
always come back when we have a baby in trouble.  Hideyo called me and 
asked if I would contact you to help with research on how to help a 
friend of her's felv+ Tortie girl name Pistachio.

Pistachio is two years old and before this she's had no symptoms and 
been very healthy and happy.  For the last couple of weeks she's lost 
weight and recently they found out she was building up fluid in her 
chest cavity.  They removed 100cc of fluid last Friday 13th, it was 
rather clear.  They don't know what's causing (waiting for reports), so 
right now the only thing she's on is abx (I asked Hideyo which abx, and 
she said she couldn't remember the name, but had never heard of it 
before).  They don't know what's causing it, but of course because she's 
felv+ they are just blaming that.  After the fluid was removed, she 
returned to her happy self and began eating and acting normal.  She's 
still okay now, but her breathing is more labored then it would be 
normally, (faster respiratory rate).

So, here's the question...  What do you wonderful experienced people 
usually suggest first when there is fluid build up?  Are there any 
success stories, or does this usually mean the beginning of the end?  
Her friend is of course a little panicked and needs help!

Hideyo had wondered about Lasix, but the vet didn't want to use it 
because something to do with the location of the fluid deposit (she's a 
little vague about exactly why).  Hideyo was thinking Interferon, 
Imulin, some sort of diuretic herb, Rutin (sp?)...  What should they do?

I'm writing for Hideyo and her friend because Hideyo's can not get 
online until tomorrow at work.   Could you please cc any response 
directly to Hideyo's email address until she can re-join the list?
Thank you guys, bless you and your babies,
Nina




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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-16 Thread dlgegg
I also found out that they do not like warmed over foods.  They sat in the 
bowls all day and I ended up throwing them out.


 Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but only when
 it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food.
 
 
 
 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY p...@mailbox.sc.edu wrote:
 
  Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into
  the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.
 
 
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  From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
 
  I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so
  it smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon
  because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later
  and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.
 
On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
   
   
THANK YOU.
   
we are not alone.
   
really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
   
yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken 
   cornstarch).
warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it
around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or
taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.
routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all
this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that
since had read that shouldn't .
   
soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
   
thank you.  forward together.
   
thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.
  they
send you love.
   
m
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