Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread Natalie
Must be more careful about voting next time - many people did so without
putting much though into itthey have buyers' remorse now!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

Just one more reason to believe that our government is as stupid as we think
it is.

But who am I kidding?  We elected most of them.  Time to vote em ALL out and
start over.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynda Wilsonmailto:longhornf...@verizon.net 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods


  It seems common sense is non-existant. Thanks for this valuable 
  information/lesson!

  Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lorrie
felineres...@frontier.commailto:felineres...@frontier.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods


   Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
   information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
  
   You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
   box.
  
   Thanks..
  
   Lorrie
  
  
   On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
   Dear Reader,
  
   Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
  
   It's for your own good.
  
   You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least
according 
   to
   the Einsteins at the FDA.
  
   Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
   unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
  
   Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration: 
   Heart
   healthy, of course!
  
   Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted 
   insanity.
  
   --- 
   Over-the-counter cherries
   --- 
  
   Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components.
The
   scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when
owners 
   of
   cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
   evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims cause your products to be 
   drugs.
  
   Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their
cherries 
   for
   approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
  
   Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
  
   Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21 
   million
   to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
   DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, help 
   regulate
   your digestive system...naturally.
  
   That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living
cultures 
   in
   probiotics.
  
   But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that Activia 
   provided
   consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals.
   Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended
up
   costing Dannon millions.
  
   And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to 
   walnuts.
  
   They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies
showing
   heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such
claims 
   on
   the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
   classified walnuts as drugs.
  
   Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
   seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about 
   their
   products...
  
   You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
   snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
   essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains, 
   packed
   with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
   bones, teeth, nerves and muscles.
  
   Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before
the
   processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
  
   Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
   polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and
LDL
   'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
   support a healthy heart.
  
   So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but

   you
   CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
   potato chips cooked in soybean oil can support a healthy heart.
  
   

Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-27 Thread dlgegg
I don't see it as being tested, just they are being sent to us becaue He knows 
we will love and care or them.  It is sad that all cannot find someone to love 
and care for them.  I just wish I could win the sweepstaks, would buy a large 
track of land and rescue all the cats, dogs and horses, what the heck, all 
animals I could find.  Would rescue children too if I could.  But the laws make 
it impossible for that, Iam 70.


 Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: 
 Sherry, Zombo sounds like such a special treasure. I'm crying with you for
 his loss, and the loss of the way-too-many other SIDS kids who have left you
 these last couple of weeks. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to every one of them,
 and hugs to every one of you. 
 
 Diane R.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:07 PM
 To: Felvtalk
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(
 
 Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY
 can take???  Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun
 lovin boy had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the
 counter and if you walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each
 shoulder and give lovin hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs
 were just the sweetest relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so
 awful and heartbreaking...yet I know that in my heart this is what I am
 supposed to be doing for these beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you
 handsome orange and white baby boy
 Sherry
 PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting
 cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight  :) I love
 them ALL so much
 
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-27 Thread Heather Clark
Sherry, so sorry.  What a handsome and sweet boy he was.  My FeLV boy
is a sweet orange man too.  It breaks my heart for you every time I
see one of these posting.  Thank you for having such strength to
continue to love these babies without hesitation, even while knowing
the great risk of loss.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt
drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 Sherry, Zombo sounds like such a special treasure. I'm crying with you for
 his loss, and the loss of the way-too-many other SIDS kids who have left you
 these last couple of weeks. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to every one of them,
 and hugs to every one of you.

 Diane R.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
 Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:07 PM
 To: Felvtalk
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(

 Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY
 can take???  Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun
 lovin boy had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the
 counter and if you walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each
 shoulder and give lovin hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs
 were just the sweetest relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so
 awful and heartbreaking...yet I know that in my heart this is what I am
 supposed to be doing for these beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you
 handsome orange and white baby boy
 Sherry
 PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting
 cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight  :) I love
 them ALL so much

 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
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[Felvtalk] FYI: What is Hemabartonella? I never heard of it before.....

2011-07-27 Thread Natalie


What is Hemobartonella?


by Miranda K. Workman, President and CEO, Purrfect Paws Animal Behavior
Center, LLC
hhttp://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799
E51B712D8EAAC5322 

 



 

Hemobartonella infections are relatively common in cats in North America.
This mycoplasma resides on the surface of red blood cells and produces
extravascular hemolytic anemia. Transmission of the parasite is thought to
occur by blood-sucking arthropods such as fleas. Mothers can transmit the
parasite to their offspring. Animals with this infection are often able to
survive for some time, but any condition that could compromise their immune
system can make them more susceptible to effects of the disease. I learned
way too much about this condition after a mother cat succumbed to it after
spay surgery compromised her immune system. Her kittens were tested
immediately and they are positive too. Treatment is possible and we are
hoping that tomorrow's bloodwork will reveal they are free from infection
and are healthy enough to be adopted!

Miranda K. Workman owns Purrfect Paws Animal Behavior Center, LLC
http://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799E
51B712D8EAAC5322  in New York

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread dlgegg
Just had an idea. Why don't we run for office!


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I bet we could build a big soap box - I have a feeling there are more like
 us out theresomebody's got to protect what we eat!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:38 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods
 
 Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
 information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
 
 You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
 box. 
 
 Thanks..
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
  Dear Reader, 
  
  Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry. 
  
  It's for your own good. 
  
  You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least according
 to
  the Einsteins at the FDA. 
  
  Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
  unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips? 
  
  Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
 Heart
  healthy, of course! 
  
  Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted insanity.
 
  
  --- 
  Over-the-counter cherries 
  --- 
  
  Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components. The
  scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when owners
 of
  cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
  evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims cause your products to be drugs.
 
  
  Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their cherries
 for
  approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims. 
  
  Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started. 
  
  Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21 million
  to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
  DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, help regulate
  your digestive system...naturally. 
  
  That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living cultures
 in
  probiotics. 
  
  But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that Activia
 provided
  consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals.
  Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended up
  costing Dannon millions. 
  
  And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
 walnuts.
  
  They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies showing
  heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such claims
 on
  the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
  classified walnuts as drugs. 
  
  Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
  seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
 their
  products... 
  
  You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
  snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
  essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
 packed
  with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
  bones, teeth, nerves and muscles. 
  
  Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before the
  processing begins! But wait -- there's more... 
  
  Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
  polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and LDL
  'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
  support a healthy heart. 
  
  So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
 you
  CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
  potato chips cooked in soybean oil can support a healthy heart. 
  
  That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
  headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets. 
  
  As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
  insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government. 
  
  Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about Science
  Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement makers
  state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based
 evidence.
  
  
  You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives and
  senators through Thomas, a Library of Congress website (
  www.thomas.loc.gov ). 
  
  Let your Congressmen know how vital it is to change these absurd FDA
  regulations that withhold essential health information and cause companies
  and growers to spend millions defending ridiculous charges. 
  
  I mean, really...aren't there other unapproved drugs that are currently
  

Re: [Felvtalk] FYI: What is Hemabartonella? I never heard of itbefore.....

2011-07-27 Thread Terri Brown
It's a treatable anemia that mimics FeLV.  Usually caused by flea infestation.

I forget off the top of my head which drug helps this, but I'm sure someone on 
the list can tell us!

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nataliemailto:at...@optonline.net 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:41 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FYI: What is Hemabartonella? I never heard of 
itbefore.




  What is Hemobartonella?


  by Miranda K. Workman, President and CEO, Purrfect Paws Animal Behavior
  Center, LLC
  hhttp://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799
  E51B712D8EAAC5322 

   



   

  Hemobartonella infections are relatively common in cats in North America.
  This mycoplasma resides on the surface of red blood cells and produces
  extravascular hemolytic anemia. Transmission of the parasite is thought to
  occur by blood-sucking arthropods such as fleas. Mothers can transmit the
  parasite to their offspring. Animals with this infection are often able to
  survive for some time, but any condition that could compromise their immune
  system can make them more susceptible to effects of the disease. I learned
  way too much about this condition after a mother cat succumbed to it after
  spay surgery compromised her immune system. Her kittens were tested
  immediately and they are positive too. Treatment is possible and we are
  hoping that tomorrow's bloodwork will reveal they are free from infection
  and are healthy enough to be adopted!

  Miranda K. Workman owns Purrfect Paws Animal Behavior Center, LLC
  
http://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799Ehttp://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799E
  51B712D8EAAC5322  in New York

   

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Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread dlgegg
I know one thing for sure, you cannot believe a word they say!  Only thing is, 
where do we find one not contaminated with the pollution of greed, payoffs, and 
graft.  Seems even those wth the best intentions succumb to it.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Must be more careful about voting next time - many people did so without
 putting much though into itthey have buyers' remorse now!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:49 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods
 
 Just one more reason to believe that our government is as stupid as we think
 it is.
 
 But who am I kidding?  We elected most of them.  Time to vote em ALL out and
 start over.
 
 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
   - Original Message - 
   From: Lynda Wilsonmailto:longhornf...@verizon.net 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:56 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods
 
 
   It seems common sense is non-existant. Thanks for this valuable 
   information/lesson!
 
   Lynda
   - Original Message - 
   From: Lorrie
 felineres...@frontier.commailto:felineres...@frontier.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods
 
 
Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
   
You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
box.
   
Thanks..
   
Lorrie
   
   
On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
Dear Reader,
   
Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
   
It's for your own good.
   
You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least
 according 
to
the Einsteins at the FDA.
   
Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
   
Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration: 
Heart
healthy, of course!
   
Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted 
insanity.
   
--- 
Over-the-counter cherries
--- 
   
Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components.
 The
scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when
 owners 
of
cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims cause your products to be 
drugs.
   
Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their
 cherries 
for
approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
   
Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
   
Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21 
million
to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, help 
regulate
your digestive system...naturally.
   
That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living
 cultures 
in
probiotics.
   
But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that Activia 
provided
consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals.
Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended
 up
costing Dannon millions.
   
And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to 
walnuts.
   
They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies
 showing
heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such
 claims 
on
the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
classified walnuts as drugs.
   
Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about 
their
products...
   
You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains, 
packed
with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
bones, teeth, nerves and muscles.
   
Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before
 the
processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
   
Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good

Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread Katy Doyle
I'm not rich enough to fund a campaign... and I don't enjoy sucking up to
the people that have the money to fund me.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:28 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Just had an idea. Why don't we run for office!


  Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
  I bet we could build a big soap box - I have a feeling there are more
 like
  us out theresomebody's got to protect what we eat!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:38 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods
 
  Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
  information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.
 
  You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
  box.
 
  Thanks..
 
  Lorrie
 
 
  On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
   Dear Reader,
  
   Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.
  
   It's for your own good.
  
   You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least
 according
  to
   the Einsteins at the FDA.
  
   Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
   unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?
  
   Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
  Heart
   healthy, of course!
  
   Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
 insanity.
 
  
   ---
   Over-the-counter cherries
   ---
  
   Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components.
 The
   scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when
 owners
  of
   cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
   evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims cause your products to be
 drugs.
 
  
   Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their
 cherries
  for
   approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.
  
   Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.
  
   Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21
 million
   to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
   DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, help
 regulate
   your digestive system...naturally.
  
   That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living
 cultures
  in
   probiotics.
  
   But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that Activia
  provided
   consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals.
   Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended
 up
   costing Dannon millions.
  
   And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
  walnuts.
  
   They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies
 showing
   heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such
 claims
  on
   the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
   classified walnuts as drugs.
  
   Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
   seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
  their
   products...
  
   You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
   snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
   essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
  packed
   with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
   bones, teeth, nerves and muscles.
  
   Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before
 the
   processing begins! But wait -- there's more...
  
   Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
   polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and
 LDL
   'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
   support a healthy heart.
  
   So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
  you
   CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
   potato chips cooked in soybean oil can support a healthy heart.
  
   That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
   headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets.
  
   As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
   insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government.
  
   Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about
 Science
   Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement
 makers
   state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based
  evidence.
  
  
   You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives
 and
   senators through Thomas, a Library of Congress website (
   www.thomas.loc.gov ).
  
   Let your Congressmen know 

Re: [Felvtalk] FYI: What is Hemabartonella? I never heard of it before.....

2011-07-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Just google it.  You'll find a lot of info, likely more detailed than anything 
anyone in a yahoo group could tell you.

--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FYI: What is Hemabartonella? I never heard of it 
 before.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:41 AM
 
 
 What is Hemobartonella?
 
 
 by Miranda K. Workman, President and CEO, Purrfect Paws
 Animal Behavior
 Center, LLC
 hhttp://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799
 E51B712D8EAAC5322 
 
  
 
 
     
  
 
 Hemobartonella infections are relatively common in cats in
 North America.
 This mycoplasma resides on the surface of red blood cells
 and produces
 extravascular hemolytic anemia. Transmission of the
 parasite is thought to
 occur by blood-sucking arthropods such as fleas. Mothers
 can transmit the
 parasite to their offspring. Animals with this infection
 are often able to
 survive for some time, but any condition that could
 compromise their immune
 system can make them more susceptible to effects of the
 disease. I learned
 way too much about this condition after a mother cat
 succumbed to it after
 spay surgery compromised her immune system. Her kittens
 were tested
 immediately and they are positive too. Treatment is
 possible and we are
 hoping that tomorrow's bloodwork will reveal they are free
 from infection
 and are healthy enough to be adopted!
 
 Miranda K. Workman owns Purrfect Paws Animal Behavior
 Center, LLC
 http://broadcaster.catster.com/t?r=3c=5420l=37ctl=18DDD:019CBE51CEB3799E
 51B712D8EAAC5322  in New York
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OFF TOPIC, but important to us: FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread dlgegg
Of corse, you do realize that the FDA relies o the manufacturer of the prodct 
to tell them if it is safe or not.  Sounds dumb to me.  If I make something and 
I want to make lots of money selling it, am I going to tell people that it is 
unsafe?  DUH!  seems a child could figure that one out, but not the FDA.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Dear Reader, 
 
 Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry. 
 
 It's for your own good. 
 
 You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least according to
 the Einsteins at the FDA. 
 
 Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
 unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips? 
 
 Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration: Heart
 healthy, of course! 
 
 Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted insanity. 
 
 --- 
 Over-the-counter cherries 
 --- 
 
 Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components. The
 scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when owners of
 cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
 evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims cause your products to be drugs. 
 
 Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their cherries for
 approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims. 
 
 Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started. 
 
 Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21 million
 to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
 DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, help regulate
 your digestive system...naturally. 
 
 That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living cultures in
 probiotics. 
 
 But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that Activia provided
 consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals.
 Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended up
 costing Dannon millions. 
 
 And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to walnuts.
 
 They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies showing
 heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such claims on
 the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
 classified walnuts as drugs. 
 
 Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
 seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about their
 products... 
 
 You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
 snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
 essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains, packed
 with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
 bones, teeth, nerves and muscles. 
 
 Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before the
 processing begins! But wait -- there's more... 
 
 Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
 polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and LDL
 'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
 support a healthy heart. 
 
 So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but you
 CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
 potato chips cooked in soybean oil can support a healthy heart. 
 
 That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
 headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets. 
 
 As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
 insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government. 
 
 Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about Science
 Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement makers
 state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based evidence.
 
 
 You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives and
 senators through Thomas, a Library of Congress website (
 www.thomas.loc.gov ). 
 
 Let your Congressmen know how vital it is to change these absurd FDA
 regulations that withhold essential health information and cause companies
 and growers to spend millions defending ridiculous charges. 
 
 I mean, really...aren't there other unapproved drugs that are currently
 putting us at greater risk than walnuts and cherries???
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

2011-07-27 Thread Lynda Wilson

Right?!! All of us are extremely better than who we have now!
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods



Just had an idea. Why don't we run for office!


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
I bet we could build a big soap box - I have a feeling there are more 
like

us out theresomebody's got to protect what we eat!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FDA fooling with supplements and foods

Natalie,   I hope everyone in the group appreciates this off topic
information as much as I do. I agree with you 100% on all of this.

You and I could both spend a lot of time up on our soap
box.

Thanks..

Lorrie


On 07-26, Natalie wrote:
 Dear Reader,

 Let go of that stem and back away from the cherry.

 It's for your own good.

 You see, that cherry is officially an unapproved drug, at least 
 according

to
 the Einsteins at the FDA.

 Obviously, that makes no sense. But it lead me to ask: If cherries are
 unapproved drugs, what does that make potato chips?

 Also compliments of the geniuses at the Food and Drug Administration:
Heart
 healthy, of course!

 Fortunately, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted 
 insanity.



 --- 
 Over-the-counter cherries
 --- 

 Cherries contain antioxidants and other anti-inflammatory components. 
 The
 scientific evidence behind that statement is irrefutable. But when 
 owners

of
 cherry orchards made those claims and backed them up with links to the
 evidence, the FDA ruled that the claims cause your products to be 
 drugs.



 Needless to say, none of the orchard owners had submitted their 
 cherries

for
 approval as drugs, so they were not allowed to continue the claims.

 Crazy? Oh...we're just getting started.

 Last year, Dannon settled a dispute with the FDA by paying out $21 
 million

 to several states where they had advertised their Activia yogurt and
 DanActive dairy drink. In those ads they said the products, help 
 regulate

 your digestive system...naturally.

 That claim is based on what we know about the benefits of living 
 cultures

in
 probiotics.

 But the FDA decided that Dannon was actually claiming that Activia
provided
 consumers with bowel movements at fixed, uniform or normal intervals.
 Clearly, that was not the case, but the agency's absurd decision ended 
 up

 costing Dannon millions.

 And FDA officials were just as picky and difficult when it came to
walnuts.

 They told walnut distributer Diamond Foods that multiple studies 
 showing
 heart health benefits of walnuts were not sufficient to allow such 
 claims

on
 the Diamond Foods website. Again, the FDA ruled that the health claims
 classified walnuts as drugs.

 Now...if all that seems completely bat-house crazy, brace yourself --
 seriously -- because here's what the FDA allows Frito-Lay to say about
their
 products...

 You might be surprised at how much good stuff goes into your favorite
 snack. Good stuff like potatoes, which naturally contain vitamin C and
 essential minerals. Or corn, one of the world's most popular grains,
packed
 with thiamin, vitamin B6, and phosphorous -- all necessary for healthy
 bones, teeth, nerves and muscles.

 Potatoes and corn -- two of the WORST foods you can eat, even before 
 the

 processing begins! But wait -- there's more...

 Our all-natural sunflower, corn and soybean oils contain good
 polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which help lower total and 
 LDL

 'bad' cholesterol and maintain HDL 'good' cholesterol levels, which can
 support a healthy heart.

 So you CAN'T say cherries provide antioxidants that benefit health, but
you
 CAN clearly tell customers that corn chips help keep bones healthy and
 potato chips cooked in soybean oil can support a healthy heart.

 That is true lunacy! In any rational world we'd be able to storm FDA
 headquarters and take them all away in straitjackets.

 As I said earlier, there may be a way out of this government-inflicted
 insanity. But to do it, we have to go through the government.

 Two members of Congress recently introduced the Free Speech about 
 Science
 Act that will require the FDA to let food producers and supplement 
 makers

 state health claims when they're backed up by sound, science-based
evidence.


 You can help this important effort by contacting your representatives 
 and

 senators through Thomas, a Library of Congress website (
 www.thomas.loc.gov ).

 Let your Congressmen know how vital it is to change these absurd FDA
 regulations that withhold essential health information and cause 
 companies

 and 

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2011-07-27 Thread linda gata
Please unsubscribe me from your mailing list.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Zombo Please add to the CLS :(

2011-07-27 Thread Sharyl
Sherry, I'm so sorry to read that Zombo has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  He 
sounds like a very special guy.  At least he was loved and well cared for.
Lighting a special candle for Zombo
Sharyl

From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:07 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Zombo  Please add to the CLS  :(

Seriously are we being tested by a higher being og how much loss we REALLY can 
take???  Oh where do I start about are AWESOME Zombo? This crazy fun lovin boy 
had been a charmer since day 1 with us...He would get on the counter and if you 
walk up to him he would reach up and put a paw on each shoulder and give lovin 
hugs..(crying now,pardon any mispellings) His hugs were just the sweetest 
relief from a bad day at work. This disease is so awful and heartbreaking...yet 
I know that in my heart this is what I am supposed to be doing for these 
beautiful babiesI love you Zombo you handsome orange and white baby boy
Sherry
PS One of my fav Sids girls Bonnet must have knew I needed some comforting 
cause she was all over me with love before I left Sids tonight  :) I love them 
ALL so much

We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way
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2011-07-27 Thread Christy Buchin
http://thereddoor-studio.com/google.php
  
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2011-07-27 Thread Christy Buchin
http://retail-bargains.com/google.php
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2011-07-27 Thread Natalie
It seems that Christy's address book was hacked; this is the second one this
afternoon/evening - they are probably sending this to all her personal
contacts. It always has to do with those cheap pharmaceutical sites.
This happened to several friends of ours...not sure what they did about it,
though.
Natalie

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 8:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; cort...@i-owe.com;
custse...@ltdcommodities.com; felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org;
cstet...@hotmail.com; amirsgil...@yahoo.com; sharon.annfa...@gmail.com;
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