Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Amy
Hi Jennifer,

So sorry to hear about Smoosh.  Thank you for loving her for the 13 months you 
had with her.  She was a lucky girl.  

Amy



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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive
 


We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago. 
She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks after 
being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she left with 
my heart tonight. 





On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:

I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate me. I was 
asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time like in hiv. He 
said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very frustrating.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Amy
First of all,  I'm so sorry about your loss of Yang.  I've been through it so 
many times and it NEVER gets any easier.

The good news is that I have two adults, 10 and 11, that have had leukemia 
since I got them, almost 10 years ago.  They have been healthy all along.  I've 
had my share of ones that made it less than 2 years and some that made it 4 or 
5 years.  You never really know.  Just take it one day at a time and cherish 
every minute. 

We don't do anything special here.  We tried lots of stuff at the beginning but 
it never seemed to help for us.  I just try to keep stress levels low and love 
them and that seems to work :)

Best of luck.  Hope you have many years with Merlot.

Amy



 From: Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:12 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive
 


Hello everyone,

My cat Merlot, just tested positive for FeLV yesterday afternoon.  We had him 
tested, because my three year old cat Yang (female) started acting ill at the 
end of June, the next morning I took her in to the vets and we discovered she 
was anemic, jaundiced and had a high fever.  They checked her blood levels and 
found she was anemic (about 13, vs 26 in a healthy cat).  She stayed at the vet 
during the day  and her blood levels didn't get any worse, and our vet was 
optimistic.  They transferred her over to the emergency clinic which was open 
all evening and in to the weekend.  They monitored her overnight and her red 
blood cells decreased, her fever lowered but she went past normal to too cold.  
That morning the blood tests came back and she was positive for FeLV.  We were 
shocked.  Even worse was that her detailed blood work showed no uptick in blood 
cell production, where she should have increased production, she actually had 
almost no
 production.  We then got to see her before we had to put her down.  That was 
the hardest day of my life.

Now, with Merlot testing positive I am terrified of losing him so quickly, and 
I am still grieving for Yang.  I know the statistics are not great for long 
term prognosis, but he is currently healthy (just a tiny bit of gingivitis - we 
are going to start brushing his teeth).  What can I do to keep him healthy?  
How do I live with him everyday without starting to grieve him already?  I know 
we all are going to die someday, but this just feels like it is going to hang 
over me.  I am still doing reading on the disease and newer treatments and 
such, but do these all start after the cat becomes noticeably ill, or are there 
things I can be doing now to help keep him healthy?  Are probiotics helpful in 
this case?

For those who have or have had a healthy FeLV cat, how long did they stay 
healthy for?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Smoosh

2014-07-25 Thread Katherine K.
Jennifer, I'm so sorry for your loss of Smoosh. I'm sure she was glad to be
with you. Thanks for caring for her.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Jennifer, my heartfelt sympathies on your loss of Smoosh.

 Marsha

 On 7/24/2014 11:01 PM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
 She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
 left with my heart tonight.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Maya D'Alessio
I am so, so sorry.  Yang was my soul mate, and I completely understand your
grief.  I know nothing can make it better, but I am sending you lots of
love and positive thoughts.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:

 We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
 She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
 left with my heart tonight.


 On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:

 I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate me. I
 was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time like in
 hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very
 frustrating.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread dlgegg
So sorry for your loss of Smoosh.  I have lost 3 in this last year.  No doubt 
it hurts and will for a long time, but now she is free of pain.  My prayers are 
with you

 Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote: 
 We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago. 
 She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks after 
 being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she left 
 with my heart tonight. 
 
 
 On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
 
  I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate me. I 
  was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time like in 
  hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very 
  frustrating.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread dlgegg
I don't think there is any research on FELV because they don't think there is 
any money in it.  Unfortunetly money runs the world today.


 Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote: 
 We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago. 
 She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks after 
 being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she left 
 with my heart tonight. 
 
 
 On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
 
  I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate me. I 
  was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time like in 
  hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very 
  frustrating.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Kelley S
I'm so sorry for your loss


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 So sorry for your loss of Smoosh.  I have lost 3 in this last year.  No
 doubt it hurts and will for a long time, but now she is free of pain.  My
 prayers are with you

  Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
  We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
  She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
 left with my heart tonight.
 
 
  On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
 
   I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate
 me. I was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time
 like in hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very
 frustrating.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Need help moving 2 felv+ kitties

2014-07-25 Thread dlgegg
I am at the tail end of your move, Silex, Missouri just 40 miles north of St. 
Louis.  Don't know if I can be of any help, but if you think so, give a call:  
573-384-5294.
What poart of St. Loui8s are you moving to?  I used to live in Clayton near 
St.Mary's Hospital, Clayton Road and Skinker.  Washington University is near by.
Now I am in the middle of the woods with my last 4 cats.  I think I shall have 
more pretty soon because when one dies, another shows up.


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 From mobile al to St. Louis mo.  Any suggestions welcome.  
 
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2014-07-25 Thread Kelley S
I've heard bad things about the research they do do.  Don't know if they
are true or not.  I know the Ragdoll people raised quite a bit of money for
heart disease research in cats (apparently there is lots of heart disease
in Ragdolls)


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:40 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I don't think there is any research on FELV because they don't think there
 is any money in it.  Unfortunetly money runs the world today.


  Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
  We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
  She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
 left with my heart tonight.
 
 
  On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
 
   I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate
 me. I was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time
 like in hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very
 frustrating.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread dlgegg
What really obthers me is that many veterinarians don't seem to care one way or 
the other.  Especially the fact that so many say put them down, don't even want 
to bother with treating.  That is why I am staying with my vet even tho he has 
made a couple of mistakes.  He does not say put them down as soon as he finds 
they are positive.  He has been with me for 2 positives and Annie is still here 
at age 8, doing fine.

 Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate me. I
 was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time like in
 hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very
 frustrating.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread dlgegg
I have noticed that most ferals turn into cuddlebugs.  I have noticed that they 
are the most anxious when you leave home.  It seems they have found a good hoe 
and person and don't want to loose them.

 Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote: 
 Milkdud was a young feral when I got him, about a year old.  He turned 
 into a total cuddlebug.  Harley came to us as a kitten no more than 4 
 months old.  He tested positive on both the ELISA and then the IFA test 
 his first year, but will re-test at his next checkup, just in case he 
 has had a rare conversion to negative.  But when he showed the 
 beginnings of stomatitis in June, I think he is probably still positive.
 
 Marsha
 
 On 7/24/2014 3:40 PM, Katherine K. wrote:
  Just wanted to add - for the kittens, I didn't give them any 
  boosters or treaments, really. Since everything I've read said 
  kittens usually succumb to the illness before they turn 2, I didn't 
  think it would make much of a difference. And since I had 4 of them, 
  it wasn't economically feasible for me. One of them became anemic 
  toward the end, so I did give him an iron-rich liquid supplement 
  called Lixotinic.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Kelley S
The low cost spay clinic I took Merlin to recommended immediate euth for
merls, without so much as an IFA.  Of course I said no.  THen I found my
holistic vet who boosts their system through supplements.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard bad things about the research they do do.  Don't know if they
 are true or not.  I know the Ragdoll people raised quite a bit of money for
 heart disease research in cats (apparently there is lots of heart disease
 in Ragdolls)


 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:40 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I don't think there is any research on FELV because they don't think
 there is any money in it.  Unfortunetly money runs the world today.


  Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
  We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
  She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
 left with my heart tonight.
 
 
  On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
 
   I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate
 me. I was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time
 like in hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very
 frustrating.
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread dlgegg
lI think those are the two most important things we can do for them, lots of 
love and keep the stress down.  Stress as in humans, causes so many things.  My 
Anney never tested positive with her 1st owner, just after Katy's death and 
being shuffled from here to there and have no real love and attention during 
Kathy's illness.  She is still having trouble adjusting to NOT being the only 
cat in the house and takes a lot of loving.


 Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 First of all,  I'm so sorry about your loss of Yang.  I've been through it so 
 many times and it NEVER gets any easier.

The good news is that I have two adults, 10 and 11, that have had leukemia 
since I got them, almost 10 years ago.  They have been healthy all along.  I've 
had my share of ones that made it less than 2 years and some that made it 4 or 
5 years.  You never really know.  Just take it one day at a time and cherish 
every minute. 

We don't do anything special here.  We tried lots of stuff at the beginning but 
it never seemed to help for us.  I just try to keep stress levels low and love 
them and that seems to work :)

Best of luck.  Hope you have many years with Merlot.

Amy



 From: Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:12 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive
 


Hello everyone,

My cat Merlot, just tested positive for FeLV yesterday afternoon.  We had him 
tested, because my three year old cat Yang (female) started acting ill at the 
end of June, the next morning I took her in to the vets and we discovered she 
was anemic, jaundiced and had a high fever.  They checked her blood levels and 
found she was anemic (about 13, vs 26 in a healthy cat).  She stayed at the vet 
during the day  and her blood levels didn't get any worse, and our vet was 
optimistic.  They transferred her over to the emergency clinic which was open 
all evening and in to the weekend.  They monitored her overnight and her red 
blood cells decreased, her fever lowered but she went past normal to too cold.  
That morning the blood tests came back and she was positive for FeLV.  We were 
shocked.  Even worse was that her detailed blood work showed no uptick in blood 
cell production, where she should have increased production, she actually had 
almost no
  production.  We then got to see her before we had to put her down.  That was 
 the hardest day of my life.

Now, with Merlot testing positive I am terrified of losing him so quickly, and 
I am still grieving for Yang.  I know the statistics are not great for long 
term prognosis, but he is currently healthy (just a tiny bit of gingivitis - we 
are going to start brushing his teeth).  What can I do to keep him healthy?  
How do I live with him everyday without starting to grieve him already?  I know 
we all are going to die someday, but this just feels like it is going to hang 
over me.  I am still doing reading on the disease and newer treatments and 
such, but do these all start after the cat becomes noticeably ill, or are there 
things I can be doing now to help keep him healthy?  Are probiotics helpful in 
this case?

For those who have or have had a healthy FeLV cat, how long did they stay 
healthy for?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Kelley S
I give mine Standard Process Feline Immune Support


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 The low cost spay clinic I took Merlin to recommended immediate euth for
 merls, without so much as an IFA.  Of course I said no.  THen I found my
 holistic vet who boosts their system through supplements.


 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kelley S moonv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard bad things about the research they do do.  Don't know if they
 are true or not.  I know the Ragdoll people raised quite a bit of money for
 heart disease research in cats (apparently there is lots of heart disease
 in Ragdolls)


 On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:40 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I don't think there is any research on FELV because they don't think
 there is any money in it.  Unfortunetly money runs the world today.


  Jennifer Lewis blonded...@mac.com wrote:
  We said goodnight to my heart, my Smoosh about an hour ago.
  She contracted the virus from her feral mom, and came to us at 8 weeks
 after being trapped. We loved her dearly for 13 wonderful months until she
 left with my heart tonight.
 
 
  On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Maya D'Alessio wrote:
 
   I am a microbiologist, so the lack of research really does frustrate
 me. I was asking the vet if we know if the viral load increases over time
 like in hiv. He said there was very limited funding for felv research. Very
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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Kelley S
I would try to find a holistic vet.  Mine has a 22 year old felv+ patient
who is currently dying - not of FELV but of liver failure.  I swear by
her.  Tons of controversy here,  but I also swear by raw food diets if you
can swing it.  Others will disagree

We never know how long we have with them.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:56 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 lI think those are the two most important things we can do for them, lots
 of love and keep the stress down.  Stress as in humans, causes so many
 things.  My Anney never tested positive with her 1st owner, just after
 Katy's death and being shuffled from here to there and have no real love
 and attention during Kathy's illness.  She is still having trouble
 adjusting to NOT being the only cat in the house and takes a lot of loving.


  Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  First of all,  I'm so sorry about your loss of Yang.  I've been through
 it so many times and it NEVER gets any easier.

 The good news is that I have two adults, 10 and 11, that have had leukemia
 since I got them, almost 10 years ago.  They have been healthy all along.
  I've had my share of ones that made it less than 2 years and some that
 made it 4 or 5 years.  You never really know.  Just take it one day at a
 time and cherish every minute.

 We don't do anything special here.  We tried lots of stuff at the
 beginning but it never seemed to help for us.  I just try to keep stress
 levels low and love them and that seems to work :)

 Best of luck.  Hope you have many years with Merlot.

 Amy


 
  From: Maya D'Alessio mde...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:12 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive



 Hello everyone,

 My cat Merlot, just tested positive for FeLV yesterday afternoon.  We had
 him tested, because my three year old cat Yang (female) started acting ill
 at the end of June, the next morning I took her in to the vets and we
 discovered she was anemic, jaundiced and had a high fever.  They checked
 her blood levels and found she was anemic (about 13, vs 26 in a healthy
 cat).  She stayed at the vet during the day  and her blood levels didn't
 get any worse, and our vet was optimistic.  They transferred her over to
 the emergency clinic which was open all evening and in to the weekend.
  They monitored her overnight and her red blood cells decreased, her fever
 lowered but she went past normal to too cold.  That morning the blood tests
 came back and she was positive for FeLV.  We were shocked.  Even worse was
 that her detailed blood work showed no uptick in blood cell production,
 where she should have increased production, she actually had almost no
   production.  We then got to see her before we had to put her down.
  That was the hardest day of my life.

 Now, with Merlot testing positive I am terrified of losing him so quickly,
 and I am still grieving for Yang.  I know the statistics are not great for
 long term prognosis, but he is currently healthy (just a tiny bit of
 gingivitis - we are going to start brushing his teeth).  What can I do to
 keep him healthy?  How do I live with him everyday without starting to
 grieve him already?  I know we all are going to die someday, but this just
 feels like it is going to hang over me.  I am still doing reading on the
 disease and newer treatments and such, but do these all start after the cat
 becomes noticeably ill, or are there things I can be doing now to help keep
 him healthy?  Are probiotics helpful in this case?

 For those who have or have had a healthy FeLV cat, how long did they stay
 healthy for?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Marsha

On 7/25/2014 12:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

I have noticed that most ferals turn into cuddlebugs.  I have noticed that they 
are the most anxious when you leave home.  It seems they have found a good hoe 
and person and don't want to loose them.



They also don't tolerate being boarded.  BT was an old feral tom who 
lived a hard life before I saved him from a catfight battle wound that 
would have killed him.  I visited with him every day in the hospital, 
and they said his demeanor was totally different when I was there.  
After he recovered and was well enough, he was neutered, and lived in my 
house under construction, where he enjoyed climbing up in the rafters, 
hunting mice, or curling up on a heated mat or a soft cat bed.  He had 
kibble to eat whenever he wanted, and I would bring him canned food each 
day when I visited, and he would cuddle on my lap or stomach and purr 
for an hour.


Then came the day I had to board BT for a few days while the house was 
being insulated.  The stress pushed his fragile internal system over the 
edge.  He had hemobart on top of barely functioning kidneys and poor 
heart function, and soon developed a bad heart murmur.  When they 
brought him to me for a visit in a room, he was developing pulmonary 
edema and was having trouble breathing.  They gave him oxygen while we 
waited for the vet to come examine him.  There was no saving him this 
time.  He probably would not have lived a whole lot longer even had he 
not been boarded.  After I got the results from the necropsy, I would 
guess he would have had only a few months.  But the stress from being 
boarded greatly accelerated his journey to life's end.


BT was OK with the guys that were working on the house, and I saw him 
rub against one of their legs and enjoy some pets.  Most of the time he 
would watch them work from the rafters.  I was going to keep him in a 
10' x 10' kennel outside the house during the insulation phase, but the 
clear tarps that protected from rain and wind would still flap or 
vibrate in the wind, and frightened BT. I thougt it was pretty nice out 
there with 2 dog houses, donut bed in one, blanket in another, lounge 
chair, picnic bench, but BT seemed upset, so I made the mistake of 
boarding him.


Marsha

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Re: [Felvtalk] Just tested positive

2014-07-25 Thread Marsha
Holy crap, not even an IFA confirmation?!  I once took a feral in to be 
spayed, only to discover in the afternoon they didn't do the surgery 
when she tested positive, and they couldn't get hold of me for 
instructions.  Now I make sure to give instructions beforehand - go 
ahead with the spay or neuter regardless of FeLV / FIV status (though I 
might hold off if there was a positive on the  heartworm test).


Marsha

 On 7/25/2014 12:54 PM, Kelley S wrote:
The low cost spay clinic I took Merlin to recommended immediate euth 
for merls, without so much as an IFA.  Of course I said no.  THen I 
found my holistic vet who boosts their system through supplements.





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