Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

[Amani Oakley]

It's not the same, Robert, and I am not sure it would work. The Epogen acts on 
the kidneys to secrete erythropoietin, which is a hormone that tells the bone 
marrow to produce more red cells.

The problem, in my opinion, is that the FeLV infiltrates the red cell 
progenitor cells in the bone marrow and either kills them or takes them over so 
that they make viruses, not red cells. My hypothesis is that when the red cell 
production stops, it is because all the progenitor cells have been destroyed or 
taken over the by virus. Thus, giving Epogen probably won't be helpful, because 
the cells which normally respond to erythropoietin by creating more red cells, 
can no longer do so because the progenitor cells are damaged or dead and can no 
longer produce red cells.

Winstrol is known to be good for osteoporosis. My hypothesis is that it 
strengthens the bone marrow by encouraging the growth of new cells in the bone 
marrow. That would explain how red cell production gets started back up again 
with the use of Winstrol.

Amani 

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CHAPEL
Sent: September-18-16 5:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs

Wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with Epogen or Procrit ( 
and other such RBC enhancing drugs typically used with Kidney Failure 
patients)   It's appears to be quite a bit cheaper when used for veterinary 
purposes than human   As the go to drug for anemia in Kidney patients it 
would stand to reason that it " should" work for Feline anemia..    There 
will not be the same resistance to using this as we encounter attempting to 
procure Winstrol..


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> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:32:11 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> Message-ID: <20160916223211.2JALI.9765.root@pamxwww10-z01>
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>
> Last year I switched vets because mine was always out on a farm call 
> and I had to drive over 30 miles to St Louis to an emergency vet.
> This new vet is there when I need her unless it is 2AM, and more 
> agreeable about trying new and different things.
>
>  Ardy Robertson  wrote:
>> That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on 
>> getting our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't 
>> cooperate.
>> Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)
>>
>>
>> One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I 
>> wanted
>> for Tigg.
>>
>>
>> Ardy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Sherri Godschalk
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>>
>>
>> Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told 
>> me
>> basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned 
>> the
>> doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double up 
>> Bogeys
>> meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next 
>> appointment
>> actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another vet because 
>> the
>> likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a 
>> little
>> helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better 
>> each time
>> on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.
>>
>>
>> From: Felvtalk  >
>> Reply-To:
>>>
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "
>>>
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>>
>>
>> Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the 
>> lymphocytes. I
>> was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
>> concentration) which is also a good thing.
>>
>>
>> They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

[Amani Oakley]

I am only familiar with the Doxycycine in pill form and it is quite stable with 
a long shelf life.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: September-17-16 11:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

Dose Doxycydine have a long shelf life?  It would be nice to get some ahead of 
time so you could start treatment right away.  This would require  cooperation 
from a vet, maybe online who could prescribe it for you and give instructions 
on how to administer it.  It is not hard to learn giving shots or iv's if 
necesseray.  Treating at home is less stressful and they have you for comfort, 
their own toys, beds, etc.


 Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
> That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on 
> getting our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't 
> cooperate.
> Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)
> 
>  
> 
> One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I 
> wanted for Tigg.
> 
>  
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> 
>  
> 
> Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told me 
> basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned 
> the doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double 
> up Bogeys meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next 
> appointment actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another 
> vet because the likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey 
> shoot. I feel a little helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to 
> get a little better each time on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for 
> writing.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk   > on behalf of Amani 
> Oakley  >
> Reply-To:  
> >
> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "
>  >
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the 
> lymphocytes. I was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell 
> haemoglobin
> concentration) which is also a good thing.
> 
>  
> 
> They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for 
> the doxycycline in my opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> Amani
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> 
>  
> 
> Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. 
> Bogey was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her 
> off
> (Stanzolol) for 14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then 
> went into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her 
> heat because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back 
> on the Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was 2 
> weeks on, 10 days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her 
> results from 9/16 and the ones from 8/24.
> 
>  
> 
> 9/16
> 8/24
> 
> RBC 2.57
> 2.43
> 
> HCT 15.3
> 15.3
> 
> HGB 5.5
> 5.3
> 
> MCV59.1
> 62.6
> 
> MCH21.4
> 21.8
> 
> MCHC  36.2
> 34.9
> 
> RDW23.7
> 23.9
> 
> RETIC  78.1
> 61.5
> 
> WBC14.47
> 13.46
> 
> NEU 4.07
> 4.03
> 
> LYM8.83
> 7.75
> 
> MONO1.52
> 1.58
> 
> EOS .004
> .010
> 
> BASO   .010
> .000
> 
> PLT  88
> 50
> 
>  
> 
> She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound 
> since 8/1. She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But 
> still is wobbly and sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this 
> drug combo and the vet was very happy 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

[dlgegg]

I had personal with both.  Since I did not respond it was stopped, then they 
started 2 units of blood following the procrit.  It did not work either (they 
were giveing me Gymzar), so oncologist stopped it.  I later went into 
spontaneous remission after 1 year.  It has been 12 years now.

 Margo  wrote: 
> 

I have used Aranesp (Darbepoetin) for a young cat with non-regenerative anemia 
in kidney crisis. It seems better tolerated by cats than Epogen, and is given 
less frequently. It isn't cheap, my little vial was $200, but she only actually 
needed three doses. Two of those were given while she was hospitalized, and 1 
here. The vial would have been 10 doses for her, but she was tiny. She has 
maintained well(Knock On Wood)and will have bloodwork again in December, which 
is almost a year from onset.

I don't know that it would be effective in non-kidney related anemia.

HTH

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: ROBERT CHAPEL 
>Sent: Sep 18, 2016 5:21 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs
>
>Wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with Epogen or 
>Procrit ( and other such RBC enhancing drugs typically used with Kidney 
>Failure patients)   It's appears to be quite a bit cheaper when used 
>for veterinary purposes than human   As the go to drug for anemia in 
>Kidney patients it would stand to reason that it " should" work for 
>Feline anemia..    There will not be the same resistance to using 
>this as we encounter attempting to procure Winstrol..
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:58 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
>wrote:
>
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>>1. Re: Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol (dlg...@windstream.net)
>>2. Re: No Mail (dlg...@windstream.net)
>>3. Re: non regenerative anaemia (Anna Summers)
>>4. Re: Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol (dlg...@windstream.net)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:32:11 -0500
>> From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>> Message-ID: <20160916223211.2JALI.9765.root@pamxwww10-z01>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Last year I switched vets because mine was always out on a farm call 
>> and I had to drive over 30 miles to St Louis to an emergency vet. 
>> This new vet is there when I need her unless it is 2AM, and more 
>> agreeable about trying new and different things.
>>
>>  Ardy Robertson  wrote:
>>> That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on 
>>> getting
>>> our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't 
>>> cooperate.
>>> Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)
>>>
>>>
>>> One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I 
>>> wanted
>>> for Tigg.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ardy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of
>>> Sherri Godschalk
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>>>
>>>
>>> Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told 
>>> me
>>> basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned 
>>> the
>>> doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double up 
>>> Bogeys
>>> meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next 
>>> appointment
>>> actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another vet because 
>>> the
>>> likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a 
>>> little
>>> helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better 
>>> each time
>>> on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk  >
>>> Reply-To:

>>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
>>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "

>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the 
>>> lymphocytes. I
>>> was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
>>> concentration) which is also a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for 
>>> the
>>> doxycycline in my 

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

[Margo]

I have used Aranesp (Darbepoetin) for a young cat with non-regenerative anemia 
in kidney crisis. It seems better tolerated by cats than Epogen, and is given 
less frequently. It isn't cheap, my little vial was $200, but she only actually 
needed three doses. Two of those were given while she was hospitalized, and 1 
here. The vial would have been 10 doses for her, but she was tiny. She has 
maintained well(Knock On Wood)and will have bloodwork again in December, which 
is almost a year from onset.

I don't know that it would be effective in non-kidney related anemia.

HTH

Margo

-Original Message-
>From: ROBERT CHAPEL 
>Sent: Sep 18, 2016 5:21 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs
>
>Wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with Epogen or 
>Procrit ( and other such RBC enhancing drugs typically used with Kidney 
>Failure patients)   It's appears to be quite a bit cheaper when used 
>for veterinary purposes than human   As the go to drug for anemia in 
>Kidney patients it would stand to reason that it " should" work for 
>Feline anemia..    There will not be the same resistance to using 
>this as we encounter attempting to procure Winstrol..
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:58 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
>wrote:
>
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>>
>>1. Re: Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol (dlg...@windstream.net)
>>2. Re: No Mail (dlg...@windstream.net)
>>3. Re: non regenerative anaemia (Anna Summers)
>>4. Re: Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol (dlg...@windstream.net)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:32:11 -0500
>> From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>> Message-ID: <20160916223211.2JALI.9765.root@pamxwww10-z01>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Last year I switched vets because mine was always out on a farm call 
>> and I had to drive over 30 miles to St Louis to an emergency vet. 
>> This new vet is there when I need her unless it is 2AM, and more 
>> agreeable about trying new and different things.
>>
>>  Ardy Robertson  wrote:
>>> That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on 
>>> getting
>>> our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't 
>>> cooperate.
>>> Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)
>>>
>>>
>>> One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I 
>>> wanted
>>> for Tigg.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ardy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of
>>> Sherri Godschalk
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>>>
>>>
>>> Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told 
>>> me
>>> basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned 
>>> the
>>> doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double up 
>>> Bogeys
>>> meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next 
>>> appointment
>>> actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another vet because 
>>> the
>>> likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a 
>>> little
>>> helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better 
>>> each time
>>> on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk  >
>>> Reply-To:

>>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
>>> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "

>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the 
>>> lymphocytes. I
>>> was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
>>> concentration) which is also a good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for 
>>> the
>>> doxycycline in my opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of
>>> Sherri Godschalk
>>> Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First 
>>> Month on Stanzolol
>>>
>>>
>>> Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but 

Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen and other RBC enhancing drugs....

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Wondering if anyone in the group has any experience with Epogen or 
Procrit ( and other such RBC enhancing drugs typically used with Kidney 
Failure patients)   It's appears to be quite a bit cheaper when used 
for veterinary purposes than human   As the go to drug for anemia in 
Kidney patients it would stand to reason that it " should" work for 
Feline anemia..    There will not be the same resistance to using 
this as we encounter attempting to procure Winstrol..



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   2. Re: No Mail (dlg...@windstream.net)
   3. Re: non regenerative anaemia (Anna Summers)
   4. Re: Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol (dlg...@windstream.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 21:32:11 -0500
From: To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
Message-ID: <20160916223211.2JALI.9765.root@pamxwww10-z01>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Last year I switched vets because mine was always out on a farm call 
and I had to drive over 30 miles to St Louis to an emergency vet. 
This new vet is there when I need her unless it is 2AM, and more 
agreeable about trying new and different things.


 Ardy Robertson  wrote:
That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on 
getting
our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't 
cooperate.

Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)


One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I 
wanted

for Tigg.


Ardy



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of

Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol


Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told 
me
basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned 
the
doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double up 
Bogeys
meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next 
appointment
actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another vet because 
the
likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a 
little
helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better 
each time

on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.


From: Felvtalk  >
Reply-To:



Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "



Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol


Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the 
lymphocytes. I

was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
concentration) which is also a good thing.


They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for 
the

doxycycline in my opinion.


Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of

Sherri Godschalk
Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First 
Month on Stanzolol



Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. 
Bogey

was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off
(Stanzolol) for 14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then 
went

into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat
because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back on 
the
Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was 2 weeks 
on, 10
days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her results from 
9/16

and the ones from 8/24.


9/16
8/24

RBC 2.57
2.43

HCT 15.3
15.3

HGB 5.5
5.3

MCV59.1
62.6

MCH21.4
21.8

MCHC  36.2
34.9

RDW23.7
23.9

RETIC  78.1
61.5

WBC14.47
13.46

NEU 4.07
4.03

LYM8.83
7.75

MONO1.52