RE: Can FelV Positive Cats Affect health of Transplant Patient?
Hello All, FelV can not be transferred to any human beingIt is a cat world dieaseOnly other cats can get itAnd beside it is transferred through Salvia, and the litter box...So there is no reason in the world for any human to worry about getting this...Young or old, sick or healthyHappy Holidays.Lisa -Original Message- From: Frullani, Anita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Can FelV Positive Cats Affect health of Transplant Patient? I sent the email to the lady and she wrote back below: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:52:49 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Fwd: Cat siblings] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/brochures/felv.html Can people become infected with FeLV? Epidemiological and laboratory studies have failed to provide evidence that FeLV can be transmitted from infected cats to humans. Regardless, FeLV-infected cats may carry other diseases. At greatest risk of infection are elderly or immunosuppressed people (e.g., those with AIDS, or receiving immunosuppressive medications such as chemotherapy), infants, and unborn children. It is recommended that pregnant women, people with suppressed immune systems, the very young, and the very old avoid contact with FeLV-infected cats. Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/22/2006 8:12 AM Felv is not transferrable to humans so there is no need to be concerned. In fact, on an email list I belong to -- there are a couple of people who were transplant patients with Felv positive kitties and had no problems. I would suggest visiting www.felineleukemia.org so you (and your friend) can educate yourselves on this virus. There is an email discussion group on that website as well, which you can sign up for and ask questions. Best wishes, Anita
RE: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain
Hello, Does anybody have the receipe for the raw liver shakeThanks...Lisa -Original Message- From: elizabeth holtermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Tabbs my Siamese in Spain Hi Sandra, We live in a little town called Jimena de la Frontera, about a 1/2 hour up in the hills behind Gibraltar. We just lost our dear cat, Tiggie, to FELV, and are going to have our other 2 cats tested this week. We found something called Transfer Factor Plus, also flax oil and cottage cheese, as well as rasberry seed extract, and had Tiggie on the TFP, but I think we just started too late. If you look up these things, the TFP, flax oil and cottage cheese, and the rasberry seed extract, you may find them helpful. It´s too late for our dear Tiggie, but I am starting the other two cats on these things right away. I haven´t been able to read all of your postings, but I just wanted to get this info out to you ASAP. Also, let me know what area of Spain you live in- we have found an absolutely wonderful vet who does alternative as well as mainstream medicine and welcomes new ideas. Take care, Elizabeth catsculptress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, My name is Sandra I live in Spain and have acquired 5 Spanish cats and kittens since living over here, 2 kittens and 3 full maletoms, sadly I have lost 2 of the adults last year with FELV and anaemic. I was unable to give them much help in the way of treatment, due to the fact that they where not used to be handled, and I was late in the diagnosis alongside it being too stressful for them. Since then my first tame stray called Tabbs have been diagnosed with FELV and anaemia. But the other 3 cats are all negative, even though one of the kittens tested Positive 3 years ago. But last test was neg. Ihave a very good vet, but am just a little unsure that he isa little unwillingto pull all the stops out. Even though he says he has tried new things in the past. Also my Spanish is not that good, and I do feel that some times I do not always get my point across. My fault, due to my lack of the language He has dealt with over 9 of my cats since living here in Spain,and until recently I have had no complaints, but withreference to my Siamese cat called Tabbs, originally a full male tom catand I would say a short term stray, now neutered and fully Vaccwho was taken in by us 4 yrs ago, Age now between 6 and 10 years,he has recently been diagnosed as FELV positive. In additionhe also has trouble with his Kidneys.(with high readings over thelast 2 yrs. being treated with the Spanish drug FORTEKOR 5). The cat is also anaemic.Tabbs also suffers from deterioration of teeth and gums preventing him from eating properly and causing bad breath. His treatment for these teeth has been administration of anti-bionics and a dental clean 6 months ago. It is my opinion that on this occasion at least two teeth should have been extracted for the benefit of the cat, unfortunately this was not done. X-ray taken two days ago shows no tumours present in the body at the moment. but he has a small tumour in his month which he catches when eating.and due to the blood readings.(urea 54.4 m9/d1, urea 20/40 m9/d1), of his Kidneys, we are unable to treat him as normal. I respectfully ask for your advice, firstly due to his kidney readings it has not been possible to operate onthe small tumour and his poor teeth which at present is responsible for his greatest discomfort. I have been informed that if steroids were administered this would reduce the swelling of the tumourin themouth and remove his discomfort to a certain degree, yet again because of his kidney reading(urea 54.4 m9/d1, urea 20/40 m9/d1), we are unable to administer steroids. He has had 3 antibiotics courseswith the last onefinishinga week ago.these were combine with vitamin B injections, and he seemed to response quite well with the antibiotics, But my vet is not forth coming at the moment with a any more antibiotics, and I feel that now my vet has said too many antibiotics are not going to be any good to him long term, But I am wondering weather he is going to be around long term, and is it not better for him to have some relief now. ??? as he is not so happy in his self since the antibiotics have worn off. Regarding the anaemia I am treating it with a good raw mincemeat alongside canned food, but he can not mange hills nuts any more. alsochemist bought vitamin and iron supplement 'glutaferro' at 0.2 ml per day 6 drops polivitaminico. I requested the Pet-Tinic but my vet was unable to supplier it for me. We are concerned with the quality of life my cat is experiencing as he is lethargic and depressed most of the time, howeverwith all things considered he is eating reasonably well.And also responses well to TLC. My
RE: FeLV cats need home
Hello, Does anybody have the receipe for the liver shake? Thanking you for your helpLisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV cats need home Keep in mind that on retest, the kittens may go negative - I've forgotten the time to retest - seems like it's 60-90 days. Gloria At 12:46 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote: where are you located? Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I volunteer for a group in Mississippi that rescues feral and domesticated cats and does TNR or adopts them out. I am the main foster home because I have a really big basement. Yesterday, I had 5 foster cats test positive for FeLV. 2 adult females and 3 kittens. Luna, Princess, Mocha, Hershey, and Godiva are all beautiful, healthy at the moment, loving, and playful. Right now I have them together in my gameroom. But I have 6 cats of my own, plus 6 other foster cats. I had to have everyone tested yesterday to find out who all had it. After that expense, I can't afford to do the IFA tests. I am paying for all this out of my pocket. I don't even have a job, I am a stay-at-home mom. Would anyone be interested in adopting any of them? All 5 of them get along great and could go together in any combination. The 2 adults are females and the kittens are 2 females and 1 male. They have all been spayed/neutered, had their rabies and FVRCP shots. I can send pictures if you want to see them. Sincerely, Julie Holeman jmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ^,,^ Saving just one animal won't change the world but, surely, the world will change for that one animal! Yahoo! for Good http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
RE: Liver Shake
Title: Message Thank youLisa -Original Message- From: Tad Burnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Liver Shake Doljan, Joan wrote: THE '~LIVER SHAKE~' FOR SICK CATS This liquid food is appropriate for cats suffering from conditions where they are eating very little or not at all such as anemias, leukemias, deficiency states with symptoms of lethargy, listlessness, and weakness. 1 cup RAW LIVER (BEEF, or CHICKEN) 1 cup FRESH CARROT JUICE or V-8, or Tomatoe Juice 1/4 cup *FRESH FILTERED WATER 1 RAW EGG YOLK 1 tsp.KELP POWDER OR SPIRULINA COMBINE AND MIX IN A BLENDER UNTIL LIQUIFIED. (Note: it will be frothy) Dosage: Administer lOcc daily 3-6 times a day. (6Occ per day max) Some cats will need to be force-fed with a syringe, while others will drink it out of a bowl. This food has a sweet and salty taste, and the energetic properties of tonifying (energy boosting), warming and stimulating and supports the kidneys, spleen, liver and stomach. This drink is a complete dinner for a sick cat until they feel good enough to eat by themselves again. *Substitute rice water if the cat has diarrhea. Rice water is made by boiling white rice (2 Tblsp) with water (1cup) for 30 minutes. This liquid aids digestion and assimilation and inhibits the symptoms of diarrhea.
RE: Cricket's Time
Hi Wendy, I just had my Richmond pts, he also hated needles, just make sure they give him a sedative, before they give him the injectionsSorry...LIsa -Original Message- From: wendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cricket's Time Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Cricket's Time
-Original Message- From: Lisa Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Cricket's Time Hi Wendy, I just had my Richmond pts, he also hated needles, just make sure they give him a sedative, before they give him the injectionsSorry...LIsa -Original Message- From: wendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cricket's Time Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Cricket's Time
Wendy, My prayers are with you...I just had my Richmond put to sleep, please make sure they give him a sedative before they give him the injection.This will be the last nice thing you ever do for cricketSorryLisa WArd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:49 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cricket's Time My prayers will be with you and Cricket I had the vet give Baby C a sedative before the actual injection he went quick and painlessly. see our available orphans at: http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html Karen 817-453-4888
RE: Cricket's Time
I am so sorry for you loses...But if you give a sedative before the iv, it would be much more peacefull...Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cricket's Time The main issue is to make sure your vet gives euthasol in the vein. Some vet's give Euthasol (euthasol is pink) or a blue solution in the stomach, and this takes longer to act unless the cat is VERY ill. The blue kind seemed to take even longer to act, and I will specifically request the PINK euthasol from now on. I have had both forms of euthanasia done, and I prefer the euthasol via IV. It works in 3 to 10 seconds, whereas the other euthanasia solution given in the stomach take 30 seconds to a minute (which seems like an eternity when you are holding them and saying goodbye). I have never had a vet offer or give a sedative before euthanasia, in fact, I had never even heard of that until joining this list. All except ONE of the animals I had put down went very peacefully. The one that went bad was a VET mistake, she missed the vein and injected it Sub-Q. It was VERY nasty and heart-breaking, the dog cried and thrashed around for a full 2 or 3 minutes in agony (this was the same vet that told me ringer's solution given sub-q would slough the skin off). God, I hope she's not still in business! Anyways.. back to the topic. Just make sure you have a good vet and it goes in IV. I'm so sorry to hear that it's Cricket's time. I hope his euthanasia is peaceful and painless. The fact that you are researching it shows how much you care, and I'm sure he appreciates it. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005
RE: cat and dog fur
Hi Bonnie, That is terrible, how could they do that...But what can we do? Lisa -Original Message- From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat and dog fur The Phillippines is also a source of cat fur. The ABC video showed a fur operation there. In a cage that had been full of cats, the last two terrified-looking cats were clinging to one another as workers took them out one by one and strangled them in front of the other cats. These cats knew what their fate was. The film was shown over a year ago but it's all coming back now. I wrote a letter to the Phillippine embassy; someone there wrote back denying it was happening and indignantly demanded to know the address of the factory. The video had only said this was happening in the Phillippines but I hope they got plenty of other letters. I think the Burlington Coat factory was one chain mentioned that was selling dog and cat fur trimmed coats. A lot of the coat labels had names of made-up animals like Russian ard-wolf. Many people don't want to hear about the horrible things animals go through; they think nothing can be done but we have to keep bringing it up - it only takes a few dedicated people to start changes in the way we think and do things...it always has, as someone once said. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:33 pm Subject: Re: Chinese cat and dog fur Isn't it odd how people talk about someone behaving like an animal when they behave in a particulary nasty way. No animal is capable of the horrors perpetrated by humans. I would like to see a huge campaign mounted to encourage a boycott of Chinese goods until they shape up. Since half the stuff we buy these days seems to come from China it would have to give them pause. On the other hand there probably isn't a single country in the world that treats animals with respect. I like to think that one day people will look back at the way we behavetowards animals as they look at slavery today---and wonder how we could possibly have thought it was ok to use, abuse, eat and wear them. Kerry
RE: Patches coughing, Lucy needs surgery
Hi Michelle, I still have the bottle of interferon, does somebody need it for there kitty? Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Patches coughing, Lucy needs surgery If you are talking about the interferon someone offered, it was offered to me not by me. I do not remember by whom. Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2005 7:34:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I live in texas would it be economical to have it shipped here? at my expense of course.
RE: Patches coughing, Lucy needs surgery
Hi Karen, Bascially it is a full bottle of interferon, I was giving it to my cat Richmond, but he died of other complications...I have had it in my fridge, for a couple of weeks, I believe it needs to stay coldDo you think I can freeze it and send it off to youLisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Patches coughing, Lucy needs surgery Lisa, Hi sorry about the confusion I was interested in purchasing your interferon if you want you would have to mail it to texas I would pay shipping if you think it would be worth it. Karen see our available orphans at: http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html Karen 817-453-4888
RE: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 55-Lisa Ward
Thank you very much.I have been giving Richmond interferon for about 1 month now...The vet said to give it to her 7 days on and 7 days offshe is now on her off days.I have also read that you should give this to your cat everyday...without any days offDo you know anything about this? Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:59 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 55-Lisa Ward Lisa: Please, take your cat in if you can. As I am sure you know, the anemia sets in it seems overnight. Our Stinky cat is back in hospital. Her red cell count is down to 13 and that happened from Saturday (Saturday her count was 27) until today. Monday and Tuesday she was eating and rolling in her cat nip and yesterday no food and no energy and today they want to put her down. I have requested a blood transfusion and am waiting to see if that is possible. I know though that the end is here and I cannot seem to get myself to let her go. Stinky was healthy for 14 years. Stinky was tested for four years. Stinky was a house cat 99% of the time and what little time she was out she was only out during the warm months and no more than an hour a week with no food or water outside. You just never know, the three cats that have lived with her for 14 years are fine. But, I'd take your cat in ASAP if you can. Best wishes and our prayers are with you. Stinky's Mom and Dad
RE: RE: RE: Kittens tested positive-Lisa
Thanks youMy kitty is acting okay, except for coughing, everytime I pick her up and put her back down, she starts coughing like she is trying to cough up a hair ball, but nothing is coming up that I can see..How long do hair ball usually take to cough up? Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 2:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: RE: RE: Kittens tested positive-Lisa He'd sit up and start the kinda (sorry for the gross description) sneezy-hocking thing...it would go on for several seconds and he'd finish with kind of a dry-heave...my biggest concern, however, was that his breathing was a little labored when he was at rest and, most noticably, he was sleeping/hanging out in places he usually doesn't hang out at, ie. hidey-holes (when cats don't feel well, they'll often seek out hiding spots). How is your kitty acting otherwise? But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Lisa Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:56 pm Subject: RE: RE: Kittens tested positive-Lisa Thank you, just a quick question was Ewok, sitting up and trying to throwup? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: RE: Kittens tested positive-Lisa Please do see a vet as soon as you can...it's possible that she could have lymphoma if her breathing is affected. Our Ewok had similar symptoms, difficulty breathing when resting and a phantom hairball...almost like an asthma attack. We found out that he does have a tumor in his chest and immediately started chemotherapy...he's doing well a little over a month after diagnosis! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Lisa Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:14 am Subject: RE: Kittens tested positive Yes, I am still giving her interferon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Kittens tested positive I'd take her to the vet. Are you still giving her interferon? Gloria At 08:44 AM 10/14/2005, you wrote: Hello my name is Lisa Ward, I am fairly new to this club, anyway I lost a cat due to amenia, caused by Felv, I also have another cat that has tested positive for Felv, the vet put her on Interferon, she seemed to be doingwell up until yesterday, it seems like she has a fur ball and can't get it out, it seems to be affecting her breathing..Her gums are not white. I hope that is the problem...Any ideas...Thank you.Lisa Ward -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 4:56 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Kittens tested positive I am shocked they would even test at 3 weeks old to be honest. Especiallywith FIV kittens can test false positive for upto a year so need testing after 12 months and even if they are positive for FeLV or FIV it is no reason to euthanase. Not sure if teh same time scale applies to FeLV but I'm sure it will. I do know that the tests for FIV detect anibodies and not the virus - the kittens automatically get the antibodies from their mother but not necessarily the virus. So like I said tehy could test positive for a long time even though they may not have the virus. Time is usually around 6 months before they test negative but I've known cats to have false positives for 12months and even upto 2 years so if they tested positive on FIV there is every chance they may be negative. Hope someone else can help on the FeLV knowledge about time scales beforetesting can be accurate. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy, Angel Bramble
RE: Kittypoo
Title: Message Hello, My name is Lisa Ward, and I am new to this group, I have lost on cat due to Felv, and another has been diagosised with it, they gave me a medicine to start my cat on it is called interferon, it is liquid, and I give it to her 7 days on then 7 days off.. Does anyone know what this medicine does...? Lisa -Original Message- From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Kittypoo DearLohna Re my email of last night, I'll send you some nutrition info separately. I'm also going to send you a copy of another email I've been sending out about a medication called Immuno Regulin. But I wanted to add, from what you say it sounds like Kittypoo needs to see a vet. I don't want to alarm you unnecessarily, but as inKittypoo's case, the only time my feral FeLVs let me touch them was when theybecame very sick. (Once, one of them evenwent into the carrier of her own accord. I didn't have to catch her.) Do you have a vet you trust? Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lohna Esteb Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kittypoo thank you so much for responding! ---Original Message--- From: catatonya Date: 10/02/05 10:03:28 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kittypoo Hi Lohna, I haven't personally dealt with seizures, but there are many people on this list who have and will be able to give you some advice.The list is usually slow on weekends, so if no one gets back to you today they certainly will tomorrow. tonya --- Lohna Esteb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My cat I rescued turned out to have this disease. She has done just great for several years. She got out, and was gone for 6 weeks. she came back but I can tell it was stressful for her. She is having strange almost seizure like episodes when she is asleep. I have seen her head kind of jerk in the past, but this is her feet and head and eyes and she hisses. I didn't realize there was anything I could do to help her. Please advise about food and anything else I should be doing.The messages are so many and it's hard to find out what I should start doing. I'm sure her immune system needs to be helped. She is a feral cat, but she lets me pick her up since she returned. I think she knows she is sick. Lohna . =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: location
Hi Amy, I am new to this web site, but was reading the note below, if you need anymore volunteers to transport the animals I would be happy to volunteer my time..I live in Horsham, PennsylvaniaI just lost a cat due to felv...So if I can do anything just let me knowLisa Ward -Original Message- From: Amy Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: location Kerry, I do a lot of animal transport. The way it works with us is that a volunteer drives approximately 60 miles, more or less if they desire. At that point, we hand off the animal to the next volunteer. For cats, we crate them and send a litter box. For dogs, we allow for potty breaks. Most of the transport coordinators have volunteers along the desired route that agree to help out. I tend to go between NY, OH, KY, PA, etc. so most of my volunteers are in those areas. It is really cool how it all works. --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, mine not directed at you particularly Kristi---there have been quite a lot of postings recently that didn't mention location, some of which I've replied to but none of which I've had a response from, presumably because none were near Chicago...I don't know why I didn't think to mention it before Karolyn did! It is definitely helpful to know where kitty is located. Actually while we're on the subject (hey, you got the ball rolling now Kristi!) can someone clue me in as to how the wonderful transportation system that so many angels on this list participate in, works. I *may* be able to take an FeLV kitty soon but I have no idea how to begin the process of transporting him/her across the country. What are the options, if any? (I don't have a U.S. driver's license much less a car :() I believe the recent airlift of the 13 NJ kitties (who arrived safely in IN last weekend by the way!!) is highly unusual. Anyway, just wanted to put it out there. Any info welcome. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:03 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: location Sorry- I guess that was directed at me, the kitten is in Rhode Island. Kristi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karolyn Lount) Date: 2005/09/15 Thu AM 04:50:37 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT Hi All, I think it would be a great help to all of us that when one posts a Home Needed if they included the area they are in. Thanks, Karolyn hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: CLS - Twiggy
I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am Subject: CLS - Twiggy Belinda, Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they could not find anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood count, elevated liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy. Twiggy came from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much caring.. Thank you, Joan
RE: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa
Hello, Yes, they said Cloud is anemic, he is very tired and weak..Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa I am so sorry to hear about Cloud! Has the vet given you a definitive diagnosis? Cats don't generally die of the Feleuk virus itself, but rather because of diseases that take advantage of the cat's weakened immune system...is Cloud anemic? But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Lisa Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:21 am Subject: RE: CLS - Twiggy I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile,but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. -- Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am Subject: CLS - Twiggy Belinda, Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they could not find anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood count, elevated liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy. Twiggy came from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much caring.. Thank you, Joan
RE: your kitty Cloud
Hello, The vet said he is very anemic, no energy, does not want to eat at all today.Do you know of anything that can be done for anemia, the vet says nothing can be done? Thanking you for your help...Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: your kitty Cloud Hi Lisa, Love that name Cloud too - just wondering, does Cloud have Lymphoma, Anemia, or what? I had two die of lymphoma. One, I think, Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, before I could get a handle on it and get him to the vet. Gloria At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote: I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am Subject: CLS - Twiggy Belinda, Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they could not find anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood count, elevated liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy. Twiggy came from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much caring.. Thank you, Joan
RE: your kitty Cloud
Hello, Cloud is 4 years old, she has not been acting herself, on Friday, that just passed, I noticed that she was not eating and having a hard time getting around, very weakI took her to the vet they did a blood test, and said she had feline leukemia. They said that her white blood cells were taking over her red blood cells, which was making her so weak and tired, and she really need to be put to sleep. She does not appear to be in any pain, except for being so tired and weak.Lisa -Original Message- From: Nina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: your kitty Cloud Lisa, I can't say for sure, but I suspect you need a different vet. You haven't told us much about Cloud, except that she's lethargic and that she's dieing of Felv. They don't die of feline leukemia they die because they are susceptible to other ailments and can't fight them off as well as kittys with healthy immune systems. If you and your vet can figure out what is making her tired then it should be fought in the same way you would for any other kitty. The first time my kitty, Grace, had symptoms similar to what you describe she was 5 mos old. I thought I might have to put her to sleep because her quality of life was so poor. My regular vet at the time didn't know what else to do for her and suggested I take her to a specialist, (an Internist). With this new vet's help, the support of this group, and a lot of work researching this horrible disease, I've been able to keep Grace with me and even though she has bouts of illness, (quick say a prayer), she always bounces back. Don't give up hope. Tell us Cloud's history and what's going on with her right now. Maybe we can help. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lisa, Love that name Cloud too - just wondering, does Cloud have Lymphoma, Anemia, or what? I had two die of lymphoma. One, I think, Mittens, became anemic in the process and possibly died from that, before I could get a handle on it and get him to the vet. Gloria At 11:21 AM 8/29/2005, you wrote: I am very sorry to hear about Twiggy, I also have a kitty (Cloud) dying of feline lekuminia, she has no energy, the vet says there is nothing that can be doneGood please her.Lisa Ward -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy Joan, please tell your friend how very sorry I am to hear that Twiggy had to go...I'm sure she is a bright, shiney new fur-angel completely uninhibited, now...I know Twiggy is going to be pretty busy for awhile, but I'm sure she'll be watching over the wonderful people who watched over her for the short time that she was here...Big hugs to Norrice! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:06 am Subject: CLS - Twiggy Belinda, Please add, my friend, Norrice's kitten Twiggy to the Candlelight Service.She was about 9 months old, and probably died from FIP early Saturday morning. She had started having seizures and was rushed to a 24 hours clinic. Norrice was told there was no hope for her recovery, so she waseuthanized.. When she was rescued she was always thin and somewhat sickly, she has good times but often had a fever which would come and go. Norrice,had her to the vet, numerous times and previously they could not find anything specifically wrong. This past week though, the blood work showedthat Twiggy was slightly anemic, had a high white blood count, elevated liver enzyme levels, and a high globulin count. She tested negative for both feline leukemia and aids. She was always listless and since she never ate much, or gained much weight, she was named Twiggy. Twiggy came from a house with many unaltered animals (now they are all altered) and some kitten deaths (probably also from FIP). Norrice, took Twiggy, to get her to a better environment. Twiggy's life, though indeed short, was one filled with love and much caring.. Thank you, Joan
RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa
What is a liver shake? Shall I puree raw liver and syringe feed it to her? What is hemobartenella? The vet mentioned nothing of the sort. Is doxocylcline the same as amoxicillian...? Lisa -Original Message- From: Belinda Sauro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa Is he getting supplemented with pet tinnic or has your vet suggested a transfusion, the liver shake is also good for this. I hope to God your vet did tests to see if the anemia is regenerative or non-regenerative, if not get a new vet ASAP and have tests done for hemobartenella, infact I would get Cloud on doxocylcline just to be safe it won't hurt him and couls well save his life if it is hemo. And most important if Cloud is not eating YOU MUST syringe feed, any sick cat that doesn't get enough food will not have the strength to fight off anything and WILL have firther complications from not getting enough nutrition which will eventually kill it no matter how much medication you are giving it. Nothing but food will cure Fatty Liver Disease, something inappetent cats get all too frequently while the vets hem and haw about other things going on and the owners have no idea how dangerous not eating can be for cats!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa
Thank you again Michelle, I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup, can I buy this a the food store? Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa To give water to a cat, we usually give subutaneous fluids, which a vet needs to give you and show you how to give. The liver shake has a lot of liquid in it. If Cloud eat it or you syringe it, I would not worry about syringing water orally. When you next see a vet, though, you might want to ask about sub-q fluids. They are not hard to give. The thing with anemia is, though, that if you hydrate then too much they feel more anemic because it thins the blood. So right now I would focus on food and getting a real diagnosis and probably some steroids and antibiotics. Michelle In a message dated 8/29/05 2:48:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you Michelle, I am going to go get the stuff to make this in about 1.5 hrs...Thank youMaybe Cloud will eat this...What about water, should I be feeding Cloud water also? Lisa
RE: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa
Thank you, I will let you know tomorrow, what is happening..Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS - Twiggy--Lisa Kelp is a seaweed and spirulina is an algae. You can buy them both in powder or capsule (which can be opened) form at a health food store and at some supermarkets in the vitamin section. If you can't get these easily they are not essential to the recipe-- they provide extra vitamins and minerals, but right now the most important thing is to get food into him, any food you can. Michelle In a message dated 8/29/05 3:08:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you again Michelle, I will try everything you suggested...Just a quick question on the liver shake you said kelp or spirulina, never heard of that is it some kind of syrup, can I buy this a the food store? Lisa
