RE: Hideyo in tears
Prayers to Hideyo. From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hideyo in tears Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:45:01 -0800 I just got off the phone with Hideyo, she needs more of your prayers and healing thoughts. One of her semi feral boys, Garfunkel, is in a very bad way right now. He was failing, but doing okay, up until, I think she said yesterday. He's stopped eating and is barely moving around, his temp is so low that it's not registering on the thermometer. She brought him to the vet and they suggested she leave him there for IV support, but they didn't expect him to recover. She didn't want to leave him alone, so he's at home with her today. Poor Hideyo is so upset. Garfunkel is one of her favorites, she was telling me how he always comes to greet her, how he's so affectionate with her and the other cats. She asked that I write to the list and ask for prayers for a miracle, or at least an easy passing, if that's what has to be. With all that she has going on right now, she's a wreck. She also asked for prayers for another semi feral named Ruby-E. He has had dental work done and the last time he had a bad reaction, so she's worried about him too. While you are including Hideyo's cats in your prayers, please send her calming, supportive energy to help ease her stress. I worry so about her, she has such a kind and sensitive heart. Nina
Re: Question about Euthanasia and my Grace
I personally think Euthanasia of pets is wrong. We shouldn't have the power to take an innocent life. Only God has that power. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about Euthanasia and my Grace Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:15:40 EDT I am not sure it is about bravery. It does take bravery to be with someone as they die a natural death. But I think that the hardest thing I ever did in my life was to euthanize my horse Shire. If I had felt it would be ok, or fair, to him, it would have been easier for me, i think, to just stay with him while he went on his own. But because of the particular problem he had, it was going to be an extremely traumatic and painful thing for him. But in that case euthanasia took more bravery (also the bravery of knowing I would always hate myself for doing the euthanasia, and I always have). It really just comes down to trying as hard as possible to be honest with yourself about what the animal can bear, and trying not to confuse it with what you can bear. I am not sure it is possible to do that, to be able to separate the things so purely, but that is what I try to do, and I think that allows you to make the best decision. I am so sorry. Michelle In a message dated 9/22/2005 10:31:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, Thank you so much for answering my post. When I was struggling with gathering the energy it took to actually write, I was thinking of you. I wanted your opinion about this. I wish I were braver. Funny, isn't it, I always think of myself as strong and brave, but when it comes to this... I just feel helpless and humble. N
Re: Bandy Update
excellent news! wish your kitty continued health From: Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bandy Update Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Good news on Saturday..I took Bandy for his blood test and the PCV was up to 31 and the TP was 7.5...Best of all, he did not have a temp..He is on 1/4 dox once a day and baytril once a day along with interferon, pepcid and his other supplements..I am adding them gradual to not cause a stomach upset..He is eating and drinking very good.. I hope to get him back to his normal weight and I guess so far he is on the right track.. Thank you all for your great input and your thoughts.. We will keep you posted and any other info is greatly appreciated.. Kerry R. and Bandy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Human interferon - Where can I purchase it?
you can get it at a local compounding pharmacy. From: Kathy Gittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Human interferon - Where can I purchase it? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:07:38 -0400 Hi, I know that some of you use human interferon (orally administered) for your FELV+ cats. Although Deirdre, my FELV+ cat, is healthy, I do want to start her on interferon. I called Island Rx and they have it, but a 90 day supply costing some $23 also costs $28 more simply to ship it. That's because it must be shipped overnight in a cold pack. Do any of you get it from a local pharmacy. My vet gave me a prescription, but my local pharmacies don't seem to have it. Thanks, kathy and Deirdre
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
If the cement is sealed with say polyurethane. Otherwise, cement is very porous. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:52:18 EDT That sounds great especially the drain in the middle of the floor. A couple years ago I spent 8,000.00 to tear up carpet and replace with top of the line wood laminate all through my house. One month later the seams starting lifting and now I have messed up floors. The manufacturer said the warranty does not cover cat urine. I need something I can clean with bleach and soap. Guess cement would be good.
Re: transfer factor
what is wrong with grains? An all meat diet is NOT good either. From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: transfer factor Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:26:08 -0700 Second the dry food post, dry food is absolutely not good for cats, it contains grains that cats cannot process. There is almost NO dry food that is good for cats. If it has grains of any kind in the ingredients I don't care what the manufacture says it isn't good for cats, and especially cats with IBD. As sson as I took Joey off of the dry he got better, still had runs off and on, but alot more off than on, and once I started cooking for them and took him almost off the Fancy Feast he got even better. Yesterday he got into the dry I still haven't weaned some hard core guys off of and threw up 10 minutes later, he was punky all day. I'm going to switch to raw feeding as soon as I get my grinder :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Pregnant women trying to get rid of her cats
I'm soo sick of seeing pregnant women using that excuse and getting rid of their cats! I see these cats all the time in cages at shelters. When will someone educate them? From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Pregnant women trying to get rid of her cats Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:22:13 -0600 I need a help - I have a colleague who is trying to get rid of her two boy cats (declawed) sine she found out that she is pregnant - she wanted to keep the cats since she has had them since they were babies (they are now 4 years old), but her husband is panicking over what her doctor said about danger of having cats around the pregnant woman, and trying to get rid of the kitties. Does any have literature or anything I can give to her to read so that it's really not dangerous to have cats in reality - I just never heard of anyone who is actually having a problem - but am I wrong - any help is appreciated. Thank you! Hideyo
RE: Please add Flavia to CLS Belinda
I am sorry for your loss. From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Please add Flavia to CLS Belinda Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:35:19 -0500 Dear all My sweet, gorgeous little girl Flavia is gone. It all happened so quickly. When I went in to check on her at 9.30am (she had seemed fine at 6am and later), she was hiding in the carrier, and seemed to be breathing more rapidly than the others. I also noticed than someone had vomited--a first, if my memory serves me right, since they all arrived in December 2003. I figured it was probably Flavia. Someone else has also been urinating a little over the past few days out of the box--again, a first. I thought it was probably Flavia. So, seeing her fast breathing, I panicked, and took her immediately to the vet I saw yesterday, Dr Teuber, and she confirmed that her respiratory rate had increased since yesterday. We ran a PCV, and it had plummeted to 10, from 16 1/2 at 4pm yesterday. I actually think Flavia was ready. She didn't want to play at all last night (she hasn't been able to play the way she used to--leaping in the air to catch the bug--for a few weeks, presumably because she hasn't had the energy). Her quality of life was going downhill. It's a pity we didn't get a chance to use the IR, which I had had fedexed to 2 clinics. (Her IR would have probably begun later this week--I had the housecall vet set up, and just had to set a schedule.) I was/am a mess, but Flavia and I had a long cuddle, which was really lovely, and helped a lot, for which I am very grateful. The vet was a wonderful woman, who I only met yesterday (Dr Teuber at Higgins, Belinda--do tell your Chicago friend.). Looks like I may not have terminated my relationship with Higgins after all... I am grateful that Flavia gave me the signs today, while I was still here and able to help her.act on it immediately. The thought of her fighting for breath for hours, or suffering in any way, while I was gone, and no one here apart from the petsitter 30 mins a day, was not something I could accept. (I did not want to hospitalize her.) I'm going to miss her terribly. I loved that little soul. I've been a bit of a mess over the thought of losing her for the last 2 weeks, and shed more tears than I thought humanly possible. She was a tabby, very feminine, elfin-faced, with streaks of auburn and coffee and cream on her underside and a long, beautiful, elegant tail. Last night I stroked her with a feather for a long time and she really enjoyed it--stretching luxuriously. And, of course, she became much more willing to be stroked and held over the past few days. Thanks to everyone for their prayers and good wishes. If I'm not in touch again today, I send lots of healing vibes for all the sick kitties, and I'll be in touch again the weekend of the 23rd. Goodbye, my gorgeous Flavia. Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 3...for Michelle L. Dear Michelle L.: There is no point (and much risk) in vaccinating an immune-compromised cat who is FIV+ or FeLV+. Vaccinations are an assault of sorts to the immune system and can be detrimental to even a cat with a normal immune system. There is much good info about the risks of vaccines on the website Holisticat.com, or I would recommend highly the book by Dr. Martin Goldstein, The Nature of Animal Healing. Some vets do still believe that the FIV and FeLV viruses are related, but more recent research tends to show they are not just substrains of the same virus. The best that we can do for immune-compromised cats is to provide them with the healthiest possible diet, provide immune support and protect them from exposure as best we can to undue stress to their immune system due to emotional challenges, enviromental toxins or other cats that may carry pathogens that their immune system cannot withstand. Other cats are really more of a threat to the FIV+ or FeLV+ cat than vice versa. I have not done much research on FIV, but got a crash course on FeLV in '03-04 with two unrelated kittens I rescued in Oct. and Nov. '02 who turned out to be FeLV+. The strain of FeLV virus (call it FeLV-A) that cats pass one to another causes significant immune suppression, but little else. It is through recombining with a cat's DNA and mutating that the more virulent subgroups occur, the FeLV-A+B that is associated with lymphoma or other cancers and FeLV-A+C that is associated with nonregenerative anemia/leukemia. In the worse case scenario it is possible for both subgroups to develop to FeLV-A+B+C. At present the mechanism which prompts such mutations is not known. This explains why some cats live for years, even with the virus in their bone marrow, while others crash and succumb early on. Have you found
RE: OT: St. Francis Medals!
I'd like a medal too From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: St. Francis Medals! Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:35:20 -0500 Hi All! Hope ya'll had a wonderful 4th of July weekend! I haven't been able to keep up with my Inbox for the past few weeks...but I want to send my best to all of our beautiful fur-babies... My Dad was down this past weekend! He just couldn't say enough wonderful things about the amazing group of people on this list... :) He kept telling me, If you need any more medals, just let me know and I'll send them to you! I've got plenty of medals here, and I know a few of you guys expressed an interest in wishing to give medals to friends/family/other rescuers (which, of course, is so NOT a problem!)...so the invitation goes out to everyone...if you'd like more than one medal, just let me know! I've got a file with everyone's addresses, so I'll get them out this week! I'll also include the prayer that my Dad used to bless the medals...it's really sweet because he mostly thought it up himself especially for this group...then, of course, he told me, Now, if you need anymore medals, please let me know! :) Take care, All! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George
RE: Help
Many times males cats have urinary/kidney problems. My non felv+ cat died from this. Please go to another vet. Weakness in hind legs is a very common sympton of a few diseases. Kidney is a major one. Is your cat a diabetic? Has it been tested foe diabetes? Neuropathy causes hind leg problems. From: JENNIFER RATLIFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Help Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:56:54 -0400 ---BeginMessage--- I need help with my 3 year old FELV+ baby Sebastian. Sebastian, I believe, was born positive. His life has been wonderful until recently. He has lost weight, hair, and has weakness in hishind legs. His eating habits are good. I just don't know what to do. I have taken him to three different vets and no one is doing what I want. I want to know why all of these things are happening and I want to fix them. I have to do everything that I can to help him. I will be devastated when something happens to him. For about two years he was getting steroid shots monthly. This was recently stopped and now he is on Interferon. I need to know if anyone knows of any feline leukemia specialists, any great websites. I will take him to whatever vet that I need to. I just need advice as to what to do next. ---End Message---
RE: Digby has passed ....
Sorry to hear of Digby's passing From: Marlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Digby has passed Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:24 -0400 Dear Group, It is with great sadness that I tell you that Digby crossed over on Tues. evening (Mar. 24th). I had taken him to the vet clinic that morning, to obtain some repeat blood work to check his numbers from the previous week. Our intent was to then take him the next morning to see his regular vet for a follow-up assessment and results from the blood tests, and then more than likely make our decision. We had been syringe feeding him this past weekend, since Sat. evening when he just couldn't/wouldn't take anything we had been hand feeding him. Thankfully, this kept his strength and weight up. In between feedings, he was comfortable in his various safe places sleeping. Late Tues. afternoon, after he used the litter box he immediately became winded - laid down on the floor, panting and softly moaning when he exhaled. I knew that was his sign to me. I called my husband to come home from work and when he arrived we called the vet clinic. They had run their own PCV (Hematocrit), and it was down to 10% (N = 24 - 45%). Two of the vets came to the house after we had some time to spend with Digby. One of the vets had requested to come with the other one, as she had come here last summer to help our CRF baby Casper cross, and said she wanted to be with us this time as well. We were very touched by her compassion and concern for us. Digby passed very peacefully in his favourite spot - in our bay window on a pillow looking outside at the birds. He gently laid his head down and closed his eyes. We were so relieved at the peacefulness and tranquility of it. That morning, I had discussed our wishes with the vet clinic. Digby will be separately cremated and his ashes returned to us in an urn. We made it known to them that if they wished to autopsy him for tissue samples, etc. to gain perhaps some more insight into Feline Leukemia, that was O.K. with us. Our thought is that perhaps Digby's passing can serve some greater good for others suffering with this. They felt that the Animal Health Lab at the Veterinary College in our province would be interested in samples, to add the information to their database. This lab is the one that had done most of Digby's blood tests. I will continue to read the posts on this forum, as our other furbaby Pekoe is also FelV+. He's doing fine healthwise - as far as we know. I believe he realizes that Digby isn't here anymore, but I know he'll be fine. Many thanks to all of you for sharing your trials and tribulations. I would like to share a phrase with you that I came across just yesterday. I find it very consoling at this time - A gentle sleep is sometimes the kindest answer to the most impossible question of all ... Marlene
RE: Andy is gone
Sorry for your loss of Andy. From: Jamie Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Andy is gone Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Thanks to all of you who took the time to respond about Andy. I do appreciate it. Barb, Sharon, Yvonne, Terrie, Belinda and anyone else I may have missed- it was good to hear from you again. To the others- it was good to meet you for the first time. I did take him to the vet first thing this morning. Dr. Caldwell was in surgery so I saw Dr. Baxter instead. Also a very nice man. Every person in that place has just been wonderful! He looked at Andy's chart and said he hoped I didn't think of them as bad since my very first experience there has been this ordeal with my baby boy. Anyway, he was very straight forward and said while he wanted to commend me on an outstanding job taking care of a Felv+ cat for this long, that there was not much he could do and that this was the beginning of the end. Whatever was going on had his insides in shreds. The vet said even if I WANTED him to run tests, he was 99% sure that Andy would not come out of the sedation in that state. Barb- it was so strange. He held up Andy's face so we were eye to eye and said Mrs. Laws, tell me, do you really see Andy there anymore? And the answer was no. So I started bawling and babbling about how I didn't warn my husband that this was a possibility this morning and he just went to work without saying goodbye. I mean I was a crying freak and I just met the man! So he gave me a small TOWEL and said I was not having a Kleenex cry so to take a towel. Then he told me we were not making the call right now, and not like that. He gave him a bag of fluids and a shot of Prednisone and told me to talk to my husband first. I went back to work, then came and got Andy at lunch. I took him home and spent the afternoon with him. He pooped blood all over himself TWICE. The second time I was washing him off in the sink and he had one of his episodes (Dr. Baxter said these were probably small strokes rather than seizures). But this time it lasted a long, long time. He quit breathing and went limp in my arms. No noise, no chest movement. He was gone. So I laid him on the floor on the towel and my phone rang, it was my husband. So I was hysterical telling him Andy just died in my arms and I was freaking out. Right then, Andy let out this gaspy, panting type breath and started convulsing. Then he just kind of sat up a little bit like nothing happened! But he was dead I tell you. So then I really freaked out and said he's not dead! I mean screaming it. So Abe (husband) asked what freeway the new vet was off of since he was on his way home. I told him where it was and he just said I am meeting you there right now. So I knew. I was not going to keep him through the night to spend a little more time together. That was it. He was suffering and I was thinking of what I needed to be okay and not Andy. I wrapped him in a towel and drove to the vet. I called first and again, just crying into the phone I managed to get out I had my cat in there this morning and... that's all I could get out. The poor girl who answered said I'm so sorry Jamie, we will see you in a minute. She knew my name and I hadn't even mentioned the cat's name. Guess I was the only bawling woman in with a cat today. Anyway, I managed to choke out but you close in 15 minutes. She just said we'll be here. It was so wonderful to be treated with compassion. My old vet would have said well ER hours start in 15 minutes so just be prepared to pay double. Anyway, I met Abe there and Dr. Baxter took us back to the treatment area. Andy laid on the table very still and I petting him and kissed his little face as the vet gave him the injection. I have never witnessed an animal bing PTS in real life. I'm sorry if this is all too graphic but it helps me to get it out. I was surprised that his eyes didn't close and nothing changed. I didn't realize he was gone until the vet said ok, his heart stopped. Then I lost it. The never agains hit me like a ton of bricks. He will never do his cold nose bumping and tiny front teeth nipping on my husband's inner arm trying to get him to pet him. He will never serve as my fun police when I want my great dane to stop bringing his toy to me. I would just lay it on the coffee table right next to Andy who was always ready with his right hook. That kept Apollo in check. He would NOT go for that toy if Andy was sitting by it. :) I will never again have my soft little lap warmer as I sit at my computer. I will never. There are millions of those and I think that's the worst part. I guess the bright spot is I think I found a new vet. Their office visits seem really high to me, but they were just so wonderful to me. After it was done, the vet and the tech
Re: I Think I'm Losing Digby .....
If your kitty won't eat and you think cause of it's tummy, try some probiotic supplements from a GNC (vitamin store) or ask your vet for some kitty tagament, etc. From: Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: I Think I'm Losing Digby . Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 00:18:08 -0400 Gloria B. Lane wrote: Someone else may know - but seems like Doxy may be more irritating to the stomach than some of the other antibiotics. Also, you might try chicken or turkey baby food, and see if Digby accepts that. Something I have found really tempts my kitties when they're not eating is cheap sliced beef in gravy. It's sold at Bilo (that's the only market around here that carries it), it's over the chili. It's Brazilian beef with gravy and has a very strong beefy flavor (feeding it for TeeCee's morning feed is rather sickening, I'm on the cat food diet.. Feed the cat and I can't eat!). My guys also like canned gravy pored over whatever they're eating! Steph
RE: Ive lost her.....
Lisa, I am soo sorry to hear that you lost Akira. I don't know what to say. I've been praying every night for her, and was hoping for a miracle. I'm soo upset. It breaks my heart. Lisa, I pray for you that you may find comfort, and have great memories of Akira. Both of you were strong. Thank you and Akira for all the help that you have passed onto me and my felv+ cat on this board, and on your website. May Akira and you find peace. Sue and Cindy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Ive lost her. Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:37:47 EDT She's gone..Akira crossed over on May 18th at 9:30 amShe fought so hard to stayI fought so hard for her...this is so hard..let me start from the beggining. I found her May of 2001, as a little angel in disquiseshe was under a car, in the rain, soaking wet, at my work.on a cold day.My assistant manager acutally found her adn came running back in.. Lisa there's a kitten under a car...come quick So I grabbed a can of kitty food and ran outside...she was so tiny! and WOA was she full of spunk..even as bad off as she was...she uttered one little valiant hiss at usthen she smeeled the food..adn forgot she was afraid..We wrapped her up in my sweater adn ran inside the store..at which point she decided to start SCREAMING at us...(needless to say we got some strange looks from customers) Once I had her settled in a little box..I realized how bad off she wasonly weighing 1 lb (mabey a bit more) and she looked to be about 4 months oldshe was SICK..her eyes sealed shut with gunk, something had attacked her...picked her right up..she had scratches on one side and a abcess on the othershe ate an entire cann of Friskiesafter she was done ..this little tiny soul...who more than likely had never known a kind human..or one at allwas begging to be petted..she would jsut purr, and purr, and purr..you would have never thought a sound so deafening could come out of such a little body..then 3 days later my heart sank..we found she was FeLV +... I was so scared and torn..she had touched my heart so much...just in those 3 days.I decided to try and save her...and I did...she fought so hard..put up with me poking and proding her, shoving God knows what down her throat to get meds,and extra nurishment into her...we were fighting alot...she had FeLV, was anemic very badly, had worms, a kitten flu, and URI, an abcess on her side...it took a whole 3 days for her to even have a bowl or urine movement at all..her body absorbed everythingand she took it..with out so much as a complaint...she was so strong...on her check up her blood values were better and she had gained 2 lbs..in a WEEK.we were on the roadbut still I had to figure out how to beat this FeLV..I didn't know what it was.So I got on line..and everything I found was so disheartening..tehn I found this ONE LONE SITEthe FeLV siteand it changed mine..and her lifeI got the Interferon, researched supplements, you name it..she got it...and she kept growing and growing.and getting more and more spunky..this little girl had life in her.How would she handle the dogs Hum...well that didn't go over very well (mabey a dog attacked her???) more work to do..she had to be able to get along with them..adn not stress herself outso we worked,and slowly but surely she was ok...adn tehn even liked the dogs..and would play with my mini dachshund Lancelot...they would play hide and go pounce which in their terms was taking turns chasing each other around teh house..(and let me tell you...it is awful funny to see a 10 dog run by with a 4 lb kitten on his tail..with her tail up in the air..in hot pursuit)...then she would jump onto a chair..adn he would be looking all over for her with no luck..when she would POUNCE on top of him..and off they would go again...for hours!!! She had such a love for life she slept with us every day...every night before bed and every morning before we got up we would play cover monsters where she would attack the evil moving thing under the coversthen in came her kitty brotherwho we trapped feral, fearing he was related to her..as similar as they were...and that he too would have this awful disease..well he didn't ..YEA..but what to do now..more researchwe let them live togeather..SHE HATED HIM..absloutly loathed him..she would hiss and attack (a whole nother side of my angel I had never seen ) Indy...bless his heart just kept insisiting she like him though...he took her abuse and purred and cued back to herhow could he have not won her over? Then one summer we got a chance to got to the outer banks of NC for vacationfor free..couldn't pass that up...but what about Akira..couldn't trust anyone to care for her...to make
Re: cat sick
Thanks for the prayers. She does not go outside, just on the deck every once in awhile. She has not gotten into plants outside or inside. I'm concerned though that she could have eaten something bad in the house. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 00:56:54 -0500 Oh, I just remembered my orange kitty Rosalie. Last year, she had been vomiting for over 24 hours. The vets couldn't figure out what it was but she had exploratory surgery. The vet and I both concluded she had eaten some of a semi-toxic plant. I saw her do it in my flower bed but couldn't figure out what plant it was. Fortunately it wasn't a really toxic plant like an Easter lily or poinsetta that could have killed her. I'm praying for your baby. Bonnie in WI - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 11:04 pm Subject: Re: cat sick The soonest I can probaly get her to a vet is Monday. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:46:45 -0500 Sue, I would call your vet or emergency vet. As you know felv cats immunecompromised and are susceptible to many illnesses. Diarrhea and vomiting are quite serious symptoms in a cat. I would call a vet for advice; it's not a good idea to let this continue. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:18 pm Subject: cat sick my felv+ has gotten sick yesterday. She's not eating, has diarrhea and is vomiting. Is there anything I should do? What can this be?
Re: cat sick
My situation is that no one in this area will treat felv+ cats. I searched long and hard to find my current vet. I've called the emergency vets before and they were rude. If things imo go into emergency mode, I WILL call anyway. Let's hope it doesn't resort to that. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 00:34:03 -0500 Sue, I know you recognize the situation is serious or you wouldn't have posted. If she is still vomiting for more than 24 hours, I would try to get some professional advice right away. She may be too far gone by Monday. If you can get some advice from an emergency clninc, you can weigh that against what others here have to day. Keep us posted. Bonnie in WI --- From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 11:04 pm Subject: Re: cat sick The soonest I can probaly get her to a vet is Monday. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:46:45 -0500 Sue, I would call your vet or emergency vet. As you know felv cats immunecompromised and are susceptible to many illnesses. Diarrhea and vomiting are quite serious symptoms in a cat. I would call a vet for advice; it's not a good idea to let this continue. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:18 pm Subject: cat sick my felv+ has gotten sick yesterday. She's not eating, has diarrhea and is vomiting. Is there anything I should do? What can this be?
Re: cat sick
no temp.o third eyelid, she drank a liitle water on her own today plus what I syringed her. She only peed once since Friday and that was today. Her diarrhea is till going on, but she hasn't vomitted since this morning. The vomit was food. Her diarrhea is yellow watery and foamy. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 15:39:05 EDT Dear Sue: It is always cause for serious concern when an FeLV+ cat becomes symptomatic for ANY reason, but the diarrhea and vomiting could be something as simple as something she ate that did not agree with her GI tract...remember that diarrhea and vomiting are the body's way of getting irritating or toxic substances out as quickly as possible. So, it could just be a food problem, but it could also be that the toxicity is coming from within due to some pathogen or organ malfunction that is causing toxins to back up into her liver and kidneys. Is she running a temp? Are her nicitating membranes (so-called 3rd eyelid) drawn up at all? Is she drinking? Is she urinating normally? Does her heart rate and respiration seem normal or does it seem elevated or labored?. Is she obviously depressed and lethargic? Was the vomiting/diarrhea an isolated incident or is it continuing? What color was the vomit...just food-induced, or is it clear or yellowish fluid? Did she vomit right after eating or some hours later. Is she still not eating? These are all things to consider which might indicate something more than a simple food irritant may be the cause. In absence of a fever, diarrhea and vomiting, unless they continue and do not abate, are not necessarily an emergency situation. You have to take a look at the total situation. Sometimes the best treatment is to give the gut a rest and do a liquid fast. Try making some broth by boiling a chicken wing or leg (chop it so the bone marrow is exposed) with some veggies like carrot, sweet potato, parsnip, parsley, broccoli and beets. Let it cool and strain off the broth and syringe some down her, if need be. I add a squirt of liquid aminos (sort of like soy sauce but not high in sodium which you can get it at a health food market) for flavor. Both diarrhea and vomiting can cause a cat to become dehydrated rather quickly. It will not be super critical if she doesn't take in any solid food for a day or two (unless she is overweight and so might be prone to hepatic lipidosis), but you do need to keep her body hydrated. Where are you located? I don't suppose you happen to know of someone who has a CRF kitty and might have Lactated Ringer's in a drip bag on hand...if so, you could ask them to help you give her some subQ fluids (100ml per dose once/day) to tide her over until Monday when you can take her to the vet. If you know of any rescue groups in your area, they may know of someone, or perhaps someone else on this list who has a CRF kitty may be on a CRF list and know of someone in your area. There are homeopathic remedies for diarrhea that might help. I've used one called Diarr-Relief from Homeopet that I think is a blended remedy. Hideyo is more conversant with homeopathic remedies so perhaps she will post and suggest some that may help. The herb slippery elm bark is soothing to the GI tract if you can get some at a health food store...you put 2-3 tsp. of it in a cup and pour some boiling water over it and let it steep like tea...the liquid becomes kind of gel-like and you strain it off the liquid and syringe some down, say 6-10 ml. If nothing else, you might be able to find some Pet Pectillan at a store like Petco or another pet supply store...it is Kaopectate (Kaolin and pectin) for pets with none of the undesirable flavoring or other additives in the human form. It will sort of coat the stomach and lining of the intestinal tract as a buffer to an irritant. If you think she may have ingested some type of poison, a detox produce that contains de-activated charcoal is usually what the vets use to try and both absorb and flush the substance out of the body. I've never had to do that, personally, so can't offer any helpful suggestions in that regard. But if you think she ate something poisonous, that would be a good reason to take her to an ER unless you know someone who has experience with detoxing a cat. In any type of crisis with an FeLV+ kitty, immune boosting therapy is always a good choice. Dr. Goldstein in S. Salem New York recommends high doses of IV Vit. C (orally, high dose Vit. C causes diarrhea) for symptomatic FeLV+ cats. I've had good results with the Animal Stress Pack with Transfer Factor Plus from 4Life Research. It comes in a box of 2 oz. packets, which is a single dose for a large animal like a horse, but for a cat, you only need to take 1/4 tsp. and dissolve it in 4-5 ml of water and then syringe it down 2-4x/day. It contains electrolytes, so is good if
Re: cat sick
my vet does treat felv+ cats, that's why I go there. It's not local though. All the local vets won't treat felv+. I already left a message on their voicemail that I'd like to bring her in tomorrow. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 12:14:56 -0500 Dear Sue, I'm happy to hear that your kitty is keeping something down. I'm sure the vet can fit her in - vets are supposed to allot time for emergencies. I've had to wait on several occasions while they tended to emergencies. Be sure to tell them she has been throwing up since Friday. My vet was so alarmed when Rosalie wouldn't stop throwing up, he x-rayed her and proposed exploratory surgery. BTW - she isn't really an outdoor kitty - I had her on a leash and was thinking about something else when she got into the flower bed. It was all my fault. If your vet won't treat a felv cat, isn't there somewhere else you can go. Granted that most positive cats don't have the greatest prospects, vets can often alleviate pain and illness and that is what they are supposed to do. Do we not treat HIV patients because they are all going to die anyway? Sorry - I'll get off my soap box, now. Bonnie and the naughty nine - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:53 am Subject: Re: cat sick Thank you for your concern. CindoBela is still sick today. She still has diahrrea and is vomiting, and is not eating, but seems like she wants to eat. I got her to eat some hard food this morning and some licks of water. It took a lot of coaxing. A short time later she had to use the litter box and also threw up. I syringed her 3 (3cc) of water and got her to eat 4 soft treats. This was about an hour ago, and she hasn't spit them up yet. I'm just trying to get her some nutrients and to stay hydrated. I am calling th vet tomorrow morning and pray they can fit her in. From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:17:39 -0500 Sue, Wondering how your kitty is today. I also must apologize--I focused on the words diarrhea and vomiting in your post, not the words not eating. So, yes, getting her to eat anything nutritious would be good. If she hasn'timproved overnight I hope you're able to get medical advice or attention today. I'm sending lots of positive, healing vibes, Kerry - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: Re: cat sick The soonest I can probaly get her to a vet is Monday. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:46:45 -0500 Sue, I would call your vet or emergency vet. As you know felv cats immune compromised and are susceptible to many illnesses. Diarrhea and vomiting are quite serious symptoms in a cat. I would call a vet for advice; it's not a good idea to let this continue. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:18 pm Subject: cat sick my felv+ has gotten sick yesterday. She's not eating, has diarrhea and is vomiting. Is there anything I should do? What can this be?
cat sick
my felv+ has gotten sick yesterday. She's not eating, has diarrhea and is vomiting. Is there anything I should do? What can this be?
Re: cat sick
The soonest I can probaly get her to a vet is Monday. From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: cat sick Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:46:45 -0500 Sue, I would call your vet or emergency vet. As you know felv cats immune compromised and are susceptible to many illnesses. Diarrhea and vomiting are quite serious symptoms in a cat. I would call a vet for advice; it's not a good idea to let this continue. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Sue Feldbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:18 pm Subject: cat sick my felv+ has gotten sick yesterday. She's not eating, has diarrhea and is vomiting. Is there anything I should do? What can this be?
RE: Re Akira needs prayers
Lisa, Many cats gets stressed out at vets. Perhaps Akira will eat for you. Try putting some kitty-vite (supplement gel) on her paw. After that, try some tasty treats. My cat went for days not eating anything and using this stuff. Also, you may want to give her milk thistle for her liver. It will help until she eats again. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re Akira needs prayers Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:23:35 EDT In a message dated 5/6/2005 10:18:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you so much everyone.I am so worried...they were supposed to be feeding her for the first time at 10 so Im about to call them.. I just called them...they have her on fluids...and have tried feeding her...but she wont let them feed her..I told them to tube her if nessacarythe day just keeps getting worse. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Re: Akira needs prayers......
Lisa, Sorry to hear about Akira. I hope seh's doing better. Her story inspired me, and gave me the hope for my felv+ cat. I will surely keep Akira in my thoughts/prayers. From: Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Akira needs prayers.. Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:15:02 -0400 Healing prayers coming your way. =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/http://pagesivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: Akira needs prayers.. Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of fatty liver, (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed.HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
Re: Kyle, how's Brissle tonight?
At least for now, use some kitty-vite. There are other nutritional supplements too. You out like a teaspoon on thier paw and let them lick it off. It will hold them for awhile. It worked miracles for our baby that wouldn't eat. It was a few days. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kyle, how's Brissle tonight? Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:17:35 EDT NO, those are nasal feeding tubes, which are supposed to be worse. E-tubes are inserted to their stomach and threaded under their skin to come out on the side of the neck. I don't think you can see much, and they are not supposed to be able to feel anything much. Michelle In a message dated 5/2/05 9:31:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are those the red tubes that they put down their nose and then sew (or staple) them into place across their forehead? I've seen that done before, and it LOOKS horrible, but I have to say, it really did not seem to really bother the dog much (but that was a dog, not a cat). Still, I'm not sure I could bear the thought of sewing anything to my cat's head! Jenn
RE: For Sue RE: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued andamcaring forDeirdre (FELV+)
What do you guys use for treats? From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: For Sue RE: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued andamcaring forDeirdre (FELV+) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:27:40 -0700 Anything which include any artificial preservative, especially, BHT and BHA should be avoided, if you know what they are, and what they are used for, there's no way that we can feed to our babies - especially FeLV+ babies - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: For Sue RE: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued and amcaring forDeirdre (FELV+) Hi Sue Re your vet's assessment of Iams, I honestly don't think fine is good enough -- and especially for FeLV kitties with their severely compromised immune systems. And no disrespect to your vet, but many vets--including my own--have never led me to believe they know or care that much about nutrition for healthy cats never mind FELV cats. (I'd say the same for a lot of doctors re human nutrition.) Iams dry has e.g. chicken by-products, ie, all the chicken parts that human carnivores would not wish to eat, and corn filler and cellulose, and since the labels don't say no artificial preservatives, flavors or colors I have to presume it has those too. I used to feed my cats dry Iams out of ignorance -- I didn't know there was a whole bunch of better-quality brands out there. The Wellness dry that I now buy specifically states on the package a list of things they do not use, and the list includes meat by-products, corn, cellulose, and artificial preservatives, flavors or colors. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Feldbusch Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued and am caring forDeirdre (FELV+) I use IAMS hard food and my vet said it's fine for felv+ kitty's. From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued and am caring forDeirdre (FELV+) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:00:32 -0600 Hi Kathleen I'm sorry I haven't been able to reply to your email till now---welcome to the group, though I'm very sorry for the reason you've had to find us. You won't find a more informed, supportive, caring, wonderful bunch of people than this one. They've been a total godsend for me! It's always a shock to discover a kitty has felv. I'm glad Deirdre has such a caring mom. I discovered in December 2003 that 5 of the 6 rescue kitties I took in were felv positive. I had to go on a crash course, so to speak, in dealing with FeLV cats and I found that their diet (not surprisingly) is SO important. My most precious references are this wonderful group and Anitra Frazier's The Natural Cat Book. Here's a copy of what I've sent out in the past with the salient points: ~~Give only filtered water. ~~Feed only high grade/human grade pet food. That is NOT Iams or Science diet-type, which has nasty by-products, and which I now know, by no means represents the gold standard in pet food, but the much higher quality brands without by-products, additives or preservatives, eg Wellness, Innova, Petguard, that you find in the independent pet stores (you won't find these high-quality foods in the Petco/Petsmart chains). I give mine Petguard wet food (from Wholefoods) and Wellness wet and dry food morning and evening. ~~Add these supplements morning and evening to Deirdre's wet food, to boost her immune system: a 500mg L-Lysin pill (grind first), easily available from pharmacies/healthfood stores, 1/4 tsp feline enzymes, 1 teaspoon of 'Vita-Mineral Mix' (I'll send you the details separately). Also, gradually, as I was able to obtain them (not difficult as it turned out, everything is available in health food stores or Internet) I added most of the remainder of the supplements Frazier recommends: CoQ10, bioplasma, olive oil, cod liver oil and alfalfa (I'll send you details re amounts). And I give them interferon. Got it thru Walgreen's (eventually) on my vet's prescription, and he made it up for me. You will get tons more advice and help from others on the list! Good luck, Kathleen, and a big hug for Deirdre---she's such a lucky kitty to have found you! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Gittel Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:02 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I'm new and green.I've rescued and am caring for Deirdre (FELV+) I'd be grateful for any and all suggestions you have for diet, vitamins, and care for Deirdre. I fed her outside and created a shelter for her in my shed for 1 year when she first appeared under my evergreen
RE: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued and am caring forDeirdre (FELV+)
I use IAMS hard food and my vet said it's fine for felv+ kitty's. From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: for Kathleen-- I'm new and green.I've rescued and am caring forDeirdre (FELV+) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:00:32 -0600 Hi Kathleen I'm sorry I haven't been able to reply to your email till now---welcome to the group, though I'm very sorry for the reason you've had to find us. You won't find a more informed, supportive, caring, wonderful bunch of people than this one. They've been a total godsend for me! It's always a shock to discover a kitty has felv. I'm glad Deirdre has such a caring mom. I discovered in December 2003 that 5 of the 6 rescue kitties I took in were felv positive. I had to go on a crash course, so to speak, in dealing with FeLV cats and I found that their diet (not surprisingly) is SO important. My most precious references are this wonderful group and Anitra Frazier's The Natural Cat Book. Here's a copy of what I've sent out in the past with the salient points: ~~Give only filtered water. ~~Feed only high grade/human grade pet food. That is NOT Iams or Science diet-type, which has nasty by-products, and which I now know, by no means represents the gold standard in pet food, but the much higher quality brands without by-products, additives or preservatives, eg Wellness, Innova, Petguard, that you find in the independent pet stores (you won't find these high-quality foods in the Petco/Petsmart chains). I give mine Petguard wet food (from Wholefoods) and Wellness wet and dry food morning and evening. ~~Add these supplements morning and evening to Deirdre's wet food, to boost her immune system: a 500mg L-Lysin pill (grind first), easily available from pharmacies/healthfood stores, 1/4 tsp feline enzymes, 1 teaspoon of 'Vita-Mineral Mix' (I'll send you the details separately). Also, gradually, as I was able to obtain them (not difficult as it turned out, everything is available in health food stores or Internet) I added most of the remainder of the supplements Frazier recommends: CoQ10, bioplasma, olive oil, cod liver oil and alfalfa (I'll send you details re amounts). And I give them interferon. Got it thru Walgreen's (eventually) on my vet's prescription, and he made it up for me. You will get tons more advice and help from others on the list! Good luck, Kathleen, and a big hug for Deirdre---she's such a lucky kitty to have found you! Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Gittel Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:02 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: I'm new and green.I've rescued and am caring for Deirdre (FELV+) I'd be grateful for any and all suggestions you have for diet, vitamins, and care for Deirdre. I fed her outside and created a shelter for her in my shed for 1 year when she first appeared under my evergreen tree eating birdseed. She was about 6 months old then. I trapped her this January 1st and had her spayed, de-flead, de-wormed and got her all her shots. She was feral. During the last 3 weeks, she finally began to get friendly and is now a total mush melon. I love her. She has taken up residence in my living room, because I must isolate her from my other 6 cats to keep them free of FELV. She has 2 windows, lots of toys, a couch, a special bed and she eats Fancy Feast wet food and Adult Nutro dried food. I spend at least a third of my time home with her. She's extremely spunky, loving and playful. I'd like to keep her that way for as long as possible. I'd appreciate any and all suggestions you might have for me. Thank You Kathleen Gittel This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
interferon
How long have your felv+cats been on interferon? What's your dosing procedure? My cat has been on it about 1.5 yrs. and 7 days on/7 days off method. I heard about antibodies.
Re: Liver shake
Spirulina also is called blue algae, I think. If you can't find it under spirulina, it could be under that. Our big grocer has it. Look in the vitamin section of your grocer. For sure, a helath place will have it. Ask if you can't find it. From: Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Liver shake Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 20:08:28 -0600 You should be able to find it at the health food store. I've used kelp before with my cats, but not spirulina. Think they're both good nutrients. Maybe somebody else knows...! Gloria At 07:22 PM 3/8/2005, you wrote: I got the stuff but I couldn't get the Kelp or spirulina.What is the for does anyone know? should I just go ahead give it to him anyway.Thanks Anita
RE: Effie has her angel's wings
Del, You were a big help to me when I came on the board with my felv+ cat. I am sorry to hear about Effie. From: Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Effie has her angel's wings Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:54:09 -0600 Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven. The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life. It was awfully hard. It IS hard. You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her. My heart is broken. Thank you everyone for support and feedback. Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well. Del ^.^ Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE Adopt a Shelter Pet PAWS of Union County, IL Rescue Angels On Wheels A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart
Re: New FeLV+ Cat, transfusion yesterday. Please see blood results.
Baytril was the only antibiotic that worked for my cat's hemobart. From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: New FeLV+ Cat, transfusion yesterday. Please see blood results. Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:51:39 -0800 (PST) Evidently Baytril doesn't work for hemobart like the doxy does. I don't know why scientifically, but it's what I've learned from the list. tonya Melbeach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks alot you guys for taking the time to offer your knowledge. I really appreciate the help! Well I've been cramming my brains out the last couple days, so more of this is making sense. This site in particular has provided a lot of very useful info. To answer a couple of your questions: Did your vet test for hemobartenella? Better yet is he treating for it, the test often comes back negative even though the cat really is positive. I think the preferred antibiotic for hemo is doxocycline (sp?), many vets will prescribe it even if the test comes back negative because it won't hurt anything and may very well save Brissle's life if she shows a false negative. That's funny you ask, because I thought the same thing. There could be a small chance that the anemia was caused by haemobartonellosis and the FeLV just happened to already be there. When I saw my vet this morning, I asked him this question. He hadn't tested specifically for haemobartonellosi, but he had given her Baytril already on Friday and Saturday and just gave me a new bottle. I'm not sure what your vet meant by being concerned about lymph issues. Did he mean he thought Brissle might have lymphoma or cancer of the lymphatic system?? That was poor wording and ignorance on my part. He had pointed out the high L/M figure as a point of concern when going over the report. But after discussing it today, he wasn't diagnosing it as lymphoma or cancer. Actually, we are still not sure of the exact cause of the anemia. Though he strongly feels that it's FeLV induced. Hmm. I wonder if I should have that bone marrow test done. I wonder why he didn't offer? Must be real expensive. Well my vet wants to combine the Interferon and Immunoregulin therapies. He wasn't too keen about the steroids because of side effects relating to it being human form. But I found info about 'recombinant feline erythropoietin' (rfEPO) here: http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/01/7.12.01/feline_epo.html Does anyone know anything about this? So I have a prescription now for the Interferon and will be ordering it soon from Island Pharmacy. I'm also looking for a source of Immunoregulin (if anyone knows one). I'll be keeping my head up. For now, Brissle is doing well, eating like crazy. She's real feisty and has the cutest personality. I'm not ready to let go without a fight. I'll be watching her closely though. She's been cheerful so far. But I'm not one of those people that consider pets possessions. If it turns to daily suffering, I'll know I did everything I could. Thanks again guys. -Melbeach
RE: Felv+ but white blood cell count normal
When my cat was first diagnosed, her wbc count was very high. Then, when she got tested again, it was very low. What does this mean? She hasn't been to the vet in about a year. From: Kathy Koutsis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Felv+ but white blood cell count normal Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:23:58 -0800 (PST) The vet left us a message to let us know that Killian's bloodwork came back normal. Her white blood cell count is normal. Now, does this mean that she can fight infection just as effectively as a felv negative cat? Kathy
