Re: OT - 2 things/tonya
Tonya www.healthypets.com Has the feliways cheap and 2.95 for shipping as much as you want and over $100something is free. I use them and like their service all and all they have the best prices when you add the shipping in so far that I found! I would use the plug ins but after cleaning use the spray too! Spray works better in my house. As for your sofa, my x brought in a used sofa in great shape well until then never had a pee problem with cats, I think the past owner had a cat and the cat's smell was on the sofa so I battled the pee on the sofa. I found 2 things that worked well. One I bought Get Serious (sold Foster smith) and in Petsmarts. You put it in the micro and heat then spray and dap and dry. I used a blow dryer cos I was in a rush. Also Foster and Smith sells Cat Detgerrent I swear by this stuff. If you can wash you can get the smell out with this stuff. Soak the area then put in wash with more CD and the smell is gone. I had a bedspread that became a marking zone and I did this and it stopped the war. Last month the one cat go excited (happy) and wet the bed spread soaked the spot washed and fine and dandy. I also like giving the cats Rock Water, Emergency, Chestnut Budd and Cherry Blossom Flower essences. Emergency is like Rescue but it worked 100% in my house for a cat that had mental problems in spraying. (not over night did the trick for her) You can get all of these at: http://www.blackkatherbs.com/ Sandi the owner is great and can help you with any mixes and make mixes for your cats She helped solve a aggressive problem in my house with cats nosodes she made for me. We still have some issues but s much better. Carla
Re: Farewell Angel Ling Thanks to all!
Dear Terri I am truly sorry to hear that Ling has left your side. I am sure Ling is very happy to have spent alittle time with you and will be watching down on you and the rest of the gang. As Ling is a shiney new angel now. My heart goes out to you Carla
Re: picture of Bones (OT)
Wow Bones is really pretty! Carla
Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!
Prayers that you can catch George soon Carla
RE: FW: false positives for feLV tests
Chris Yes cats that are vaccinated against fiv test postive for fiv. Carla From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:32:37 -0400 Copies to: Subject:RE: FW: false positives for feLV tests Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Am I right in saying that cats who have been vaccinated for FIV also test positive Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FW: false positives for feLV tests Yes, false positives are very common for fiv because kittens can test positive if their mother was positive and then throw it off later. I don't think an fiv test is considered definitive on a cat under 3 or 6 months. I don't remember which it is. I know I wish shelters didn't test for fiv anymore because it is not a bad enough disease to euthanise for and there are so many false positives. I don't consider fiv cats to be a problem to keep in my house. I worry that they might get leukemia from my felv positive cat though. tonya Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am forwarding this infor from other list - I found it interesting - are you guys aware of it? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FivCats] Re: Cooling Off Kitty/Fleuk kitty That's very interesting, Kathy - it happens a lot with FIV ELISA testing, too from my experience - Again, even if he is positive now, there is a pretty good chance to he is in just transient transmission and he might become negative, too - please read the article I sent to you earlier for more detail infor - thanks. Hideyo _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kathy hintz Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FivCats] Re: Cooling Off Kitty/Fleuk kitty I would do the same as you. Keep in mind that there are many false positives with this test. In addition, the San Fran shelter no longer tests as they were killing too many cats that could have lived long and happy lives. I will try to find the article and post it or mail it to you when I locate it. (RIght now I am in hurricane preparation mode so all is upside down). Anyway, they did exhaustive research and found out that a large percentage of cats that tested positive were not positive. And, of those that were, only 10% became ill and died of fel leuk - the rest died of natural causes. You might want to put that kitty on interferon - I have a friend who cares for a large group of fel leuk positives and she always gives them interferon to help boost the immune system. I have several cats that are positive and they are still going strong after ten years. Follow your heart and keep that baby with you as long as possible. Kathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just took a sweet stray to vet today for neuter, about 8 months old, long hair tiger grey, he was pos for leukemia, vet suggested euthanasia, i said no i have one other cat that is pos, for 3 or 4 years and he will stay with him, do u think i did the right thing, I will care for him until he gets ill then i will put him down, just could not do it. Linda _ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=32659/*http:/discover.yahoo.com/stayintouc h.html it out! _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FivCats/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ .
AC
Hi Kat, I have a question not sure if you can answer this but I have a cat bengal that came to the house one day. I have him up for adoption but he had some health issues so I was holding back on adopting meanwhile he is best buds with one of my cats. He has know started to mark places in the house. Most of the places where places the cat that was marking (that stopped). My question is do you know if he is unhappy here, has he always done this is he trying to tell me something. I had him tested for urine. I had complete blood work done he drinks like a horse too! He knows better cos if I see him and he is gonna start I yell and he runs like he knows this is not right. Any ideas you can see Thanks Carla
RE: AC - cats marking
Kat Thanks I never thought of the spray bottle. He was an indoor outdoor declawed cat! I know that declaws sometimes do this. I always tell him he is a good boy when I see him use the box. I am using some flower essences with him and also have the feliway plug ins and the spray(which I use after cleaning the wall) I will keep the visions of him being calm and relaxed with the other. I know with multi cat house hold especially foster it's hard. I welcome all new ideas it's a challenge to find out what the problem is. I solved the felmale cats problem a year ago through trial and error. Thank you so much Carla
RE: AC - cats marking
Thanks Tamara, I will try the lemom ball too Carla
Re: pls add Norman to the CLS
Robin I am sorry for your loss of Norman my heart goes out to you Carla From: Robin Sarafinchan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:26:01 -0400 Copies to: Subject:pls add Norman to the CLS Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I've been off and on the list since one of our cats tested positive almost 2 years ago. Norman was quite healthy up until a month ago when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished. Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a transfusion which improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still wasn't eating much and hadn't much energy. Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up and seemed in real distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped him cross over to the bridge. It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the right one. I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their advice and for listening. This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 years (the others due to other illnesses). For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but I don't know how long he was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years ago). It's such a horrible disease, I hope someday some of my money can go to research. For now, we're going to retest our other three cats, hope they continue to be negative and go from there. I know there will be more furkids in our lives. Thank you for listening. Robin
Re: Carla - marking behaviorNina
Nina Thanks for your input The new cat is marking one I think it's cos I think he is trying to show he belongs and has marked in the place where the other two sleep on the walls near the cage they sleep. I think he is trying to let them know he is there. Now they all have seemed to be ok but Cheetah I think has issues that were not address earlier as he was neutered late, indoor/outdoor declawed cat! He has the 3 strikes the 1st time I caught him he didn't know he was doing wrong. I keep him separate while I am not home. I think this weekend or next I will put his crate in the room with the other two so this way they can maybe get the sense they are all there together. I crate my fosters at night (can't deal will the high volume of cats at night) Day time Cheetah is in our garage till I get home and the others are in the house. So that may be the next step, but I agree with the sending messages. Thanks again Carla
Re: CLS-Smokey/Gloria
Gloria Please tell your friend I will keep Smokey in my thoughts that he is found soon. Carla
felv cat in texas needs placement
I received a post from a friend in Texas can anyone help with this felv cat? If so please email me off list for an contact. I am waiting to get a phone number or email address for this woman who currently has this cat: He is a male cat, about 2 years old. No symptoms others than he is currently being treated for a URI and will have to be on CD for the rest of his life. He is gray and white, mediuim length hair, beautiful face. His owner is unable to care for him any longer. She is a psychologically/emotionally challenged woman -- cannot handle problems, stress, etc. He is currently in Houston. Will be willing to transport within a reasonable distance. Thanks Carla
Re: felv cat in texas needs placement
Thanks Gloria that would be great!
Re: The convent ferals - GOOD NEWS
Goodnews! Carla From: Kathy Gittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:49:10 -0400 Subject:The convent ferals - GOOD NEWS Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I wrote to the neighborhoodcats group to ask how it was going with the ferals the nuns were starving and got this reply: ___ We have trapped 5 of what turns out to be 8 cats and have seen the remaining three. All are in good health and had a day to eat before we started trapping. Hopefully we'll get the rest soon. Thanks for being concerned, Bryan Kortis
Re: need prayers please!
Sending healing vibes to Corky. Carla Date sent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:08:37 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:need prayers please! Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of Scottie, Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early this morning - or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost fainted - I never seen so much blood at one place- she has also thrown up - I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and antibiotics - she bleeded there also. After some testing, they narrowed it down to a couple of things - and they are hoping that fluid therapy and the antibiotics will treat her - please pray for Cork's recovery - a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon! Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been feeding for several months now. I noticed that he lost lots of weight (I hadn't seen him for a couple of weeks) - and I took him to the vet - everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive on FIV - now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up negative later) - anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him - he must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very friendly and used to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC - Carl told my AC that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and somehow he became an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home anywhere - I asked via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he said he would like that very much - I hope his lost weight is just a temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot will come back as negative - please also pray for Carl's well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has had a rough life since he had lost home...
Re: Update on Bronx Nuns
When are they gonna take the cats? Does anyone know?
From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:55:21 -0400
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UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005
Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats
(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara
Whalen, head of Pets Alive
javascript:ol('/http://www.petsalive.com');
http://www.petsalive.com'); , has offered to provide a new home
for the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible
impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi
Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery have
been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past
eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the
Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the monastery are
considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the cats so
they can be transferred to Pets Alive.
We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this
solution.
The cats have now not been fed for six days and counting.
Re: Bramble
Michelle, I am sorry to hear about Bramble. My Bamama had full blown aides for 3 yrs. I found different things to keep her going for 2 1/2 yrs but I had to be home to feed her everyday for lunch too and I was lucky to live so close to home. The last 6 months of her life was very up and down and my vet said when you have more bad then good, you will know. My heart goes out to you. Carla Date sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Bramble Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Michelle, I am so sorry about Bramble. He is though a lucky boy to have found a compassionate person, such as yourself, to help release him from his pain. Joan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bramble is going to the vet in 1 1/2 hours. I came in to find him appearing visually impaired - he couldn't see the piece of chicken and was startled when I put it to his nose - he then had difficulty judging the floor from my knee and was hesitant to get down. He then went into a seizure - writhing around for about 4 minutes and has just done that for another minute about 30mins later. The other 2 cats are scared again. I'm pretty sure this will have to be a euthansia case today - I am going to push on the flea treatment adverse effects though - but I can say that he is now suffering and I can't let him suffer if they can't do anything. These decisions hurt so bad but my baby boy without doubt is in the full blown faids stage - his weight is plummeting fast even though he has eaten. I just hope if the vet says the E word and I go ahead that it is right for him. Whilst I think the flea treatment may well have exacerbated this I'm sure the FIV is a lot to blame too. I'll let you know the outcome. Michelle L
AC: Charmed/Bamama
Hi I have two cats that I loved that passed away, Charmed was Felv+ then tested negative after 1 1/2 yrs then 6week later discovered he had cancer and died. Both were very special in different ways and both left me with a sadden heart that I still cry about often. He was very smart I would like to know if he really understood and was he happy the time he spend with us even though he was seperated from his siblings. . It's 4 yrs almost and I still miss him. I had to make a choice when he had a heartattack not to try and bring him back and it hurt a lot not too. Was he ok with that? Bamama was like my little watch dog. If my boyfriend yelled at me she would fluff up and protect me. She became anemic when her spleen was removed and with full flown aides as it was it was too much to battle. Even in the end as I cried to pts she dragged her body (she had a seizure the night before) to me to comfort me on last time. It's been almost 3 yrs for her. Is she ok and does she forgive me for the mistakes I made and my paients was running a little low when she didn't want to eat and I would get annoyed with her. Can you tell me anything about either one and how they feel or anything about them now that they have passed? Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sam is FOUND!
Gloria That is such great news what I nice way to start the week! Carla
Re: Question - Long
Shelia You may want to put some feliway plug ins around They are suppose to help calm cats. I have two right now in I do see better results with the spray can but I keep the plug ins. I like Emergency Flower essence it's like rescue I just have seen better results for stressed cats or cats with emotion problem. I order mine from: http://www.blackkatherbs.com/ Sandi is very nice if you have any questions she can help make up something for you. I have been dealing with her for a few years now and her prices are really fair. Carla
Re: Update on Bones (good news!)
Jen Glad to hear Bones is doing better. Carla
RE: Jersey.....
Stan I am very sorry to hear about Jersey, I am sure Jersey was greatful for all you did for him. Carla
Re: Tad lost his Sammy
Tad I am sorry for your loss of Sammy. My heart goes out to you Carla Date sent: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:44:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Tad lost his Sammy Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Tad, I'm so sorry you lost your Sammy - 18 mos is too short a time to have with our babies. Our thoughts and tears are with you. HUGS Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tad, I'm so sorry about Sammy. What a shock to lose him so quickly. How old was he? Did the vet tell you there was nothing that could be done to help him? Tell us something about Sammy. What was he like? How did he come to be with you? Please share some of his story with us. You are so quiet about the things you suffer through. We would like to support you with all you go through with all your rescues. Please let us know in the subject line when one of your cats are in trouble, or if you've lost someone. When Baby Kitty died, very few of us on the list were aware of it because you told us about it in response to Steve's email. Not everyone reads every email. Judging by the lack of response to your loss of Sammy, I think the list missed your sad news again. My prayers and thoughts are with you, Much love, Nina Tad Burnett wrote: PS...I have an old girl..vet thinks she is over 12 years old but she has been with me for almost 2 years and she is doing well...I did just loose my old Sammy that I have had for a year and a half...I thought the 2 old timers were past the age where it would get them but Sammy developed a huge tumor in his mouth in just a few hours and I had to let him go to escape the pain that it was causing him. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out!
Re: outcome of anemia - Immuno-Regulin
I tried Immuno-Regulin for a fiv anemic cat. Helped alittle But she had too many other things going on she was at the stage of full blown aides, her immunes system was 0. She was anemic due to her spleen was removed since they thought it was cancer but turned out it had some toxic cells but not cancer. Trick is to use the right amount of Immun each cat is different and has different side effects or reactions, it's a trial and error to find the dose that works well with that cat that is on it. Carla From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:49:41 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: outcome of anemia - Immuno-Regulin Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Robin, I can't remember if I suggested Immuno-regulin. There is an article on this group's website about it. Anecdotally there seems to be some success with it helping anemic cats, where the anemia is not caused by lymphoma, leukemia, or hemobartonella. However, another cause of anemia is an auto-immune reaction that causes the body to kill its own red blood cells, and steroids are prescribed for this-- and I think Immuno-Regulin could make this condition worse. Michelle
Re: meet_Jersey
Stan Jersey is so sweet looking he is very handsome! Carla Hi all again, I just forgot that 2 months ago I put a picture of Jersey in a photography contest online. You can see him here: http://www.usa101.com/en/usaodav/pv_photo.php?entry_id=7508 Stan
Re: Bones... please help her!
Jen Sending positive energy to you and Bones Hugs and healing vibes Carla
Re: Digby has passed ....
Marleen My heart goes out to you at this time. I know that Digby will be missed and will live in your hearts forever. Again I am truly sorry for your loss of sweet Digby. Carla From: Marlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:24 -0400 Subject:Digby has passed Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Dear Group, It is with great sadness that I tell you that Digby crossed over on Tues. evening (Mar. 24th). I had taken him to the vet clinic that morning, to obtain some repeat blood work to check his numbers from the previous week. Our intent was to then take him the next morning to see his regular vet for a follow-up assessment and results from the blood tests, and then more than likely make our decision. We had been syringe feeding him this past weekend, since Sat. evening when he just couldn't/wouldn't take anything we had been hand feeding him. Thankfully, this kept his strength and weight up. In between feedings, he was comfortable in his various safe places sleeping. Late Tues. afternoon, after he used the litter box he immediately became winded - laid down on the floor, panting and softly moaning when he exhaled. I knew that was his sign to me. I called my husband to come home from work and when he arrived we called the vet clinic. They had run their own PCV (Hematocrit), and it was down to 10% (N = 24 - 45%). Two of the vets came to the house after we had some time to spend with Digby. One of the vets had requested to come with the other one, as she had come here last summer to help our CRF baby Casper cross, and said she wanted to be with us this time as well. We were very touched by her compassion and concern for us. Digby passed very peacefully in his favourite spot - in our bay window on a pillow looking outside at the birds. He gently laid his head down and closed his eyes. We were so relieved at the peacefulness and tranquility of it. That morning, I had discussed our wishes with the vet clinic. Digby will be separately cremated and his ashes returned to us in an urn. We made it known to them that if they wished to autopsy him for tissue samples, etc. to gain perhaps some more insight into Feline Leukemia, that was O.K. with us. Our thought is that perhaps Digby's passing can serve some greater good for others suffering with this. They felt that the Animal Health Lab at the Veterinary College in our province would be interested in samples, to add the information to their database. This lab is the one that had done most of Digby's blood tests. I will continue to read the posts on this forum, as our other furbaby Pekoe is also FelV+. He's doing fine healthwise - as far as we know. I believe he realizes that Digby isn't here anymore, but I know he'll be fine. Many thanks to all of you for sharing your trials and tribulations. I would like to share a phrase with you that I came across just yesterday. I find it very consoling at this time - A gentle sleep is sometimes the kindest answer to the most impossible question of all ... Marlene
Re: Andy is gone
Dear Jamie, I am sharing in your sorrow and tears as I read your heartfilled email. I am so sorry to hear about Andy. My heart goes out to you at this time. Carla Date sent: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:47:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject:Andy is gone Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Thanks to all of you who took the time to respond about Andy. I do appreciate it. Barb, Sharon, Yvonne, Terrie, Belinda and anyone else I may have missed- it was good to hear from you again. To the others- it was good to meet you for the first time. I did take him to the vet first thing this morning. Dr. Caldwell was in surgery so I saw Dr. Baxter instead. Also a very nice man. Every person in that place has just been wonderful! He looked at Andy's chart and said he hoped I didn't think of them as bad since my very first experience there has been this ordeal with my baby boy. Anyway, he was very straight forward and said while he wanted to commend me on an outstanding job taking care of a Felv+ cat for this long, that there was not much he could do and that this was the beginning of the end. Whatever was going on had his insides in shreds. The vet said even if I WANTED him to run tests, he was 99% sure that Andy would not come out of the sedation in that state. Barb- it was so strange. He held up Andy's face so we were eye to eye and said Mrs. Laws, tell me, do you really see Andy there anymore? And the answer was no. So I started bawling and babbling about how I didn't warn my husband that this was a possibility this morning and he just went to work without saying goodbye. I mean I was a crying freak and I just met the man! So he gave me a small TOWEL and said I was not having a Kleenex cry so to take a towel. Then he told me we were not making the call right now, and not like that. He gave him a bag of fluids and a shot of Prednisone and told me to talk to my husband first. I went back to work, then came and got Andy at lunch. I took him home and spent the afternoon with him. He pooped blood all over himself TWICE. The second time I was washing him off in the sink and he had one of his episodes (Dr. Baxter said these were probably small strokes rather than seizures). But this time it lasted a long, long time. He quit breathing and went limp in my arms. No noise, no chest movement. He was gone. So I laid him on the floor on the towel and my phone rang, it was my husband. So I was hysterical telling him Andy just died in my arms and I was freaking out. Right then, Andy let out this gaspy, panting type breath and started convulsing. Then he just kind of sat up a little bit like nothing happened! But he was dead I tell you. So then I really freaked out and said he's not dead! I mean screaming it. So Abe (husband) asked what freeway the new vet was off of since he was on his way home. I told him where it was and he just said I am meeting you there right now. So I knew. I was not going to keep him through the night to spend a little more time together. That was it. He was suffering and I was thinking of what I needed to be okay and not Andy. I wrapped him in a towel and drove to the vet. I called first and again, just crying into the phone I managed to get out I had my cat in there this morning and... that's all I could get out. The poor girl who answered said I'm so sorry Jamie, we will see you in a minute. She knew my name and I hadn't even mentioned the cat's name. Guess I was the only bawling woman in with a cat today. Anyway, I managed to choke out but you close in 15 minutes. She just said we'll be here. It was so wonderful to be treated with compassion. My old vet would have said well ER hours start in 15 minutes so just be prepared to pay double. Anyway, I met Abe there and Dr. Baxter took us back to the treatment area. Andy laid on the table very still and I petting him and kissed his little face as the vet gave him the injection. I have never witnessed an animal bing PTS in real life. I'm sorry if this is all too graphic but it helps me to get it out. I was surprised that his eyes didn't close and nothing changed. I didn't realize he was gone until the vet said ok, his heart stopped. Then I lost it. The never agains hit me like a ton of bricks. He will never do his cold nose bumping and tiny front teeth nipping on my husband's inner arm trying to get him to pet him. He will never serve as my fun police when I want my great dane to stop bringing his toy to me. I would just lay it on the coffee table right next to Andy who was always ready with his right hook. That kept Apollo in check. He would NOT go for that toy if Andy was sitting by it. :) I will never again have my soft little lap warmer as I sit at my
Re: stitch
Micheal I am deeply sorry for your loss of Stitch. It's very hard I know Stitch will we watching down over you know as you did for Stitch. Carla Date sent: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: stitch Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I am so sorry about Stitch. May his rest be peaceful. Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately stitch did not respond to the CCNU. it has been a little over 27 hours and he continues to worsen. the vet attempted to remove the fluid from his lungs again to help him breath...unfortunately for us the mass is solid and he has no fluid to remove. his breathing is so bad he has to mouth breath to get any air...i was think of bringing him back home for one more night for my own selfish reasons. after rethinking this i most likely will not. he has been in a nasty fight for a very long time...and now its time for him to rest. We did everything we could and and still lymphoma wins another battle. maybe someday people and animals alike will benefit from new technology and treatments.
Re: OT: Please send prayers for my dog Fern and my horse Pepsi
Michelle, Sending healing vibes and thoughts ot Fern and Pepsi. Carla
RE: stitch
Michael Sending healing vibes and thoughts Stitch's way. Carla
Re: OT: Cardiomyapathy
Belinda, sorry I don't remember what is good for that. But I am keeping Joey in my prayers and thoughts. Carla Date sent: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:45:53 -0700 From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://www.bemikitties.com To: FeLV Talk List [New] felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Feline Cancer Group [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: Subject:OT: Cardiomyapathy Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi All, Took my Joey in for an echo on his heart, his heart murmur is getting louder so my vet wanted him to get an echo cardiogram. There is some thickening of the heart walls, very slight on the right, and more so on the left, which I guess is the norm for kitties that get this condition. So he is in the early stages of cardiomyapathy (he is 10 years old and negative). He will have to take medication once the radioligist verifies the vets findings, but I also want to get him on some kind of natural supplements that are beneficial for the heart. Does anyone know what that may be, I always thought that COQ-10 was one, but now I'm not sure?? Is lycopene OK for cats? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Akira
Lisa My thoughts are with you. Carla
Re: Thank you - Jada won BEST IN SHOW
Yeah I saw this am on the news! Carla From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, 'Janice Ventura' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Ellen E. Hutzel' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'maggie raywood' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:21:34 -0400 Copies to: Subject:Thank you - Jada won BEST IN SHOW Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Jada, the pit-bull mix from the shelter I volunteer with, besides winning the popular vote, just won Best In Show. Jada's owner put in a plug for the shelter and our upcoming adoption event. Also, they will do a story about Jada in Dog Magazine. Thank you again for your support, Joan
Re: Akira needs prayers......
Lisa Healing vibes thoughts to Akira. Carla Date sent: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:39:26 -0500 From: Mari Kolbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Akira needs prayers.. Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Lisa: Our prayers are with you and Akira. I will add her to our candle lighting tonight. /mari On 5/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, well it seems like for every great thing an equally horrible one occursThe book that my stories are in came out this week...many about Akira and how she over came her sicknesses when I found her...My 23rd birthday was yesterday (cinco de Mayo), and Monday Akira decided to quit eating, Ive been force feeding her, and offering her anything I could think of...she would sniff..but not even was remotely interested other than thatSo today to the vet we went...Im home now..she is still there...45 mins away, on an IV catheter for fluids, being force fed, waiting on blood work to come backshe has the VERY first signs of fatty liver, (her urine is VERY concentrate)..but she isnt jaundiced yet (thankfully)...and her blood is very thick...which is good..she presumably by teh looks of it..isnt anemic...which means this possibly is NOT as a result of the Leukemia...but then again...as with every other damned symptom..it still could beIve never left her alone before..I am so worriedand feel so betrayed.HAPPY BIRTHDAY..your cat is trying to die ..So please say prayers, send Reikianything her way she needs all the help she can get...she is dehydrated, initiall fatty liver..and she has lost 2 lbs in about 4 days..(.she only weighed 8 to begin with) She is my angel that introduced me to rescue, cats, and unconditional loveI cant lose her.Im not ready. Lisa and the furbrats Akira, Indy, Spooky, Mona, Lancelot, Bowtie, Bennie and Anza
re: Mikey
Leah I am truly sorry for your loss of Mikey May you find confort knowing he has joined his brothers. I am sure they are watching over you now. Carla
Re: Brissle is gone...
Kyle, I am very sorry for your loss of Brissle it's a day we all dread. Please know you did all you could and more for Brissle. Brissle was truly luck to have you as her parent. Again my heart goes out to you Carla
Re: Belinda - CLS -
Joan Please let your friend know how sorry I am for her loss. Carla From: Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:40:26 -0400 Copies to: 'Raymaker, Norrice \(LEGAL\)' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Belinda - CLS - Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Belinda, Can you please add my friend's mother's cat (Martha Fabinski) Mimi to the Candle Light Service. Mimi died on April 27th and was 9 years old. (She was FELV-). Thank you, Joan
Re: My Baby Kitten DIED
Tad I am truly sorry to hear of the loss of your Baby Kitten. I am sure the kitten is watching down and watching over you and is greatful for finding a path that led your baby kitten to you care and love. Carla
Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?
Doesn't surprize me that anyone in this group would have a better idea than some vets that I know! Carla Date sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Siders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Carolina to Vet or Not? Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Carla, Gloria suggested something. She might be better than the vet, eh? Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the vet can give you something for her with out seeing her? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Turn for the worse
Lisa Sending healing vibes and thoughts Roxy's way. Carla Date sent: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Turn for the worse Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Lisa, Emergency vets just suck. I'm glad you held your ground too. I hope when you see your regular vet tomorrow she'll have some good ideas to help Roxy feel better soon. tonya Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Lisa I know what you mean about emergency vets. I'm sending lots of healing thoughts for little Roxie, and lots of good wishes for the visit to your vet tomorrow. (Are you able to take her when they open in the am?) I'm so glad you didn't succumb to the pressure. You know your kitty best. Keep us posted when you have time. Big hugs to the little furball, take care, Kerry - Original Message - From: Lisa Roberts To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: Turn for the worse My poor Roxie has taken a sudden turn for the worse. Last week we took her into my regular vet last week for an upper respiratory infection and he started her on Lysine and antibotics (she has been on interferon since March). On Friday night we noticed her breathing was heavier and more rapid then normal. She was also lethargic and her appetite had decreased. On Saturday evening she was even breathing with her mouth open at times so we took her into the animal emergency office. I didn't realize how much I appreciate my normal vet until I talked to this guy. He was very negative and made us feel like we were giving Roxie a poor quality of life by keeping her alive. But the thing is, until last week, she has always been very healthy. He did soften up a little toward the end of the visit (I was in tears by this point). They put Roxie on oxygen for about an hour and gave her shots of Dexamethasone and Brethine, hoping that it would open her airways. So far, she is some better, but her breathing does get worse when she gets stressed, and giving her he antibotics really stresses her. I just hope that she is able to get passed this. I am at my wits end. I plan to take her back to the regular vet on Monday unless she is dramatically better. Thanks for listening, I really appreciate this group so much. I usually only lurk, but its such a comfort to be able to tell my story to people who really understand. Please keep your fingers crossed for my little Roxie - Lisa __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: o/t blockage question
They usually do that in extreme cases have they tried change of food and perscriptions? My friend had a male cat and they said they were going to do that he opted not to and they have had no problems they usually don't mention this unless there is a chronic problem. I would switch to food that they sell at the vet I used Hills cdx for a cat with chronic problems she is a female cat. I also give her solid gold berry mix which is good for urinary problem cats. Have had no problem in 2 yrs with her. She is on the hills prescription there are other formulas but she did best with this one. Also I would try corn silk tea this has worked for my cats now I use this when the cat seems to not urinate as much and then bam the cat is back to normal. You brew it and give 1/2t 3 x a day. I keep this on hand. If the cat has problems still 24hours later and not back to normal then I call the vet. BUT if the cat is not at all and straining then I would go to the vet asap. Carla From: Kerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:52:55 -0500 Copies to: Subject:o/t blockage question Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi all You may remember I sent out an email last week about a bad vet clinic in Chicago, McKillips. I sent the same email to a PAWS counsellor in Chicago, and she left me a message saying she'd never had agood feeling about that clinic, and went on to say that people who had adopted a PAWS cat in the past recently took the cat to McKillips. The problem was blockage--and McKillips recommended, and then carried out, removal of the cat's penis. Has anyone heard of such a remedy for blockage? It seems extraordinary, to put it mildly. I'd welcome any/all feedback. Thanks, Kerry - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: Re: fwd of Best Friends.org guest speaker about FELV Hideyo, sorry I just got this email now. Did you get the packet from Nina's vet? I don't think my vet used it, but it is the easiest way to go. Your vet just sends in a letter to the FDA, they send a letter back to the vet, and the vet orders the VO from Abbey Vet and it is shipped to the vet. At least that is how it happened for me. I would call the FDA after a few weeks to check on it. I sent a phone number to the list a few weeks ago. If you can't find it, when I am back home in MA (I am in NJ now with my horse and parents) I can find it on my computer. Michelle In a message dated 4/15/2005 2:41:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: RE: fwd of Best Friends.org guest speaker about FELV Date: 4/15/2005 2:41:12 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent from the Internet Michelle, I am so glad that you are on line - I am on the way to the vet to ask her to write me a VO request letter for me - I wanted to make sure that I know the process correctly - The vet will write a letter with the information (vet's name, product name, and etc) which you forwarded to me last month - then do I send the letter to FDA? Do FDA contact me then? Then, I will need an order form to import directly from UK (VO company?) or does my vet need to do it? Will the products come to me or come to my vet?? -Original Message-
Re: Deirdre has swollen glands under her jaw
Try clavamox that worked for my guy with swollen glands Carla From: Kathy Gittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:58:56 -0400 Subject:Deirdre has swollen glands under her jaw Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Deirdre was sneezing and coughing, infrequently for a few days and her neck was quite swollen. The 2 glands under her jaw were swollen. She's been on amoxicillin 50mg twice a day since I noticed this on April 2nd and she's always taken Lysine (500 mg. Presently her neck is back to normal size and she's no longer coughing or sneezing, but there's still some swelling under her jaw. It feels like 2 tiny peas, one on each side. She's only recently become tame, so I hate to stress her by taking her in, but I'm not sure what's going on and we have no base-line blood work for her. Any ideas? Kathy and Deirdre
Re: need help - a negative, later positive - ?
I would have the cat retested on IFA. Cats can test negative if they are postive if it's during the intal virus incubation. We had a cat test negative in our group the kittens got adopted. One got really sick took to vet and he tested postitive. All the other did too. Retested the mom and she was positive. My guess the the cat was just infected and had not gone thru the blood stream. Or could just be a false positive meaning the cat was around a cat that was positive. Hard to tell I would retest and if + retest in 3 months. If it's early enough then maybe the kitten can through off the virus. Carla Date sent: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:29:00 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copies to: Subject:need help - a negative, later positive - ? Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I've got a question - our group took in a kitten from animal control , 8 weeks old, in May 2003. He was tested for FELV/FIV (Elisa snap test) in November 2003, and tested negative. We adopted him out about March 2004. The new owner just reported back that he was havine URI problems, and he tested positive for FELV. I've heard that tests on kittens aren't dependable. Any insight into this? Gloria
Re: Brownie's visit
Julie Good luck, sending good vibes and thought your way in CT! Try to stay out of the insane asylum! Carla Date sent: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:58:25 -0800 (PST) From: Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Brownie's visit Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi Everyone, Brownie's visit with the opthamologist went very well; I learned some new things and now have to make some decisions. In addition to glaucoma in his enlarged eye, he has a luxated lens, cataracts and corneal ulceration. He has cataracts in his 'good' eye, as well as the prolapsed lens. The opthamologist (she was great!) recommends removing his right eye and monitoring the left eye (he has some drops for it) for 2-3 months. The left eye does have the potential to rupture as his right eye has. He's not a youngster and he's FIV+, so I am debating whether to have both eyes removed in one surgery instead of doing one and then finding out in a year that the other one needs to come out. The practice I went to is all specialists (dermatolgists, cardiologists, etc.) and I was really impressed with everyone there. My husband is having surgery next week to repair an abdominal aneurysm (wow, the fun never stops around here!) so I was thinking about seeing if Brownie could have surgery while Steve's in the hospital and then I'd either get them both home about the same time or check myself into the insane asylum!!! Thanks to all of you for your good thoughts for Brownie; he was such a trooper on the long ride! Hugs and headbutts! Love, Julie I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) Paws Come WITH Claws!!! If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Re: Brownie needs good thoughts
Julie Healing vibes to Brownie. Is the lense detached? Bamama had that and was semi blind for two years. She could see light but not really good the vet sad she saw shadows. Brownie's in my thoughts and prayers. Carla Date sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:18:31 -0800 (PST) From: Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Brownie needs good thoughts Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Dear Friends, I've written in the past about Brownie, my FIV+, blind and deaf cat. When he came to me after TNR (obviously he could not be released) he had been vetted and I was told about his disabilities. I assumed (NEVER again) that his eyes had been examined and that nothing could be done for him, but sort of had it in the back of my mind to take him to the veterinary opthamologist who I took Paulie to for a specialty opinion. He seems wonderfully happy, has gained lots of weight, lays in his poofy bed purring like he's in heaven, so other things kept coming up and I just never did it. About 10 days ago I was looking into some feline eye diseases because Trixie has an eye infection that I can't clear up; I suspected entropion (which she in fact does have). I saw a photo of a kitty with a hideously enlared eyeball and the caption said it was glaucoma and that it's extremely painful in cats. It looked just like Brownie's eye, so off to my vet we went (along with Trixie, to have the entropion checked, and she does have it, though a mild case we will try to treat with steroid drops before we do any surgery). Brownie does in fact have glaucoma in that eye and has a prolapsed lens in the other eye. I can't even describe how sick and furious I am. I immediately called my friend Joan and had her check his chart (I adopted him from her organization) and there is nothing on it recommending any follow-up or other treatment for his eyes; not even a diagnosis other than blind. We both assumedshe's dealing with the vets who seeminly chose to ignore the condition of his eyes (hey, he's old, he's FIV+, deaf, blind, skin and bonesso what, don't treat him?) and I am taking him to a veterinary opthamologist in Rhode Island this afternoon. It's possible that both his eyes will need to be removed, but we won't know until she examines him. She sounded great on the phone so I am hopeful that we'll get a good diagnosis. I just want him to be pain-free. He doesn't show signs of pain, but we all know how good kitties are at hiding it. So, if you could all keep Brownie in your thoughts, I'd be so appreciative. Love, Julie I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948) Paws Come WITH Claws!!! If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
felv + white kitten looking for home in Houston TX
Hi all I received this from a friend in the houston TX area. If anyone can help please email the name below or you can email me off line. I have pictures of this guy he is very cute. Hopefully someone can take him. Carla He also as affectionate as he is beautiful. Snowbell was found abandoned at an area mall on Christmas Eve, 2004.He was extremely cold and frightened, and he was meowing, asking -- begging -- for someone to please help him. Luckily, one of our rescue group volunteers heard his cries amidst the snow flurries that evening and immediately came to his aid. Snowbell was underweight and undernourished. We fed him, nurtured him and brought a gleam to both to his eyes and to his soft white coat. That snowy Christmas Eve, we made a promise to help Snowbell every way we can. Now, what Snowbell needs most is a fantastic forever home! He is a healthy 8-month old, who is neutered, up-to-date on shots and FeLV+. He is a kitty who is grateful to be rescued. He will thank whomever adopts him with loads of purrs and hugs! If you think you may have a potential adopter for Snowbell, please let me know. Anyone who lives with this wonderful kitty will be a very fortunate person indeed! Best regards, Janet Anderson Purrfect Pets Volunteer Tel: 281-370-8100 (office) Cell: 281-682-7630 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tiggie has gone to the Bridge
Holly I am so sorry to hear that you lost Tiggie. I am glad you can find confort knowing she is with the rest of her family as they play and chase it other. I am sure they will find time to watch over you from the heavens above. I am truly sorry for your loss Carla
RE: Loki Update
Steve My thoughts are with you I will keep you both in my thoughts. Carla
Re: Tiger - CLS
Shelia I am very sorry to hear that you lost Tiger my heart goes out to you and your family Carla
Re: Anakin is gone
Anita I am very sad to hear that Anakin has left you. It's very a hard decision to end their pain and to add to yours. Even though your heart is breaking please know you did the best for Anakin and he will be by your side always in spirit and in your heart forever. Again I am very sorry for your loss, Carla Date sent: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:30:08 -0800 From: catstevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Anakin is gone Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org When I took him to the vet he could not even stand.The vet said most of the medication won't help he's to for gone most take time to work he doesn't time.She said he was not getting enough blood to his heart he has a heart murmur.She said his kidneys were alot smaller.She went to take a bit of blood he didn't even move,but she said there was so little blood left in him she couldn't.She said that the best thing we could do for him is to pts.So we all said it was time,We said our good bye's I stayed with him when she put the needle in he didn't even move.I stayed there patting him tell him how much we love him.It's so hard.Thank you all so much for everything.Anakin is with all our fur babies the have past. Love Anita
Re: Kelp or Spirulina
They are both high in iron. I was told to be careful by my homepathic vet with them due to the high iron when my cat was anemic. But I did use the Spirulina there is a drink with it at a the health stores and my cat seemed to like the taste. It's high in B vitamins. You can do a search on the net and should be able to order on line if you can't find it in the stores. GNC carry kelp I think maybe the other. Carla Date sent: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:22:54 -0800 From: catstevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Liver shake Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Kelp or spirulina
Re: Kelp or Spirulina
Michelle That should be fine I would think also. Carla From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:31:20 EST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Re: Kelp or Spirulina Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org In the shake, it's only 1 tsp kelp or spirulina for an amount of shake that should last 2 or 3 days (I make less of it at a time because I am not sure it keeps well), so I don't think that amount should overdose anyone on anything. Michelle In a message dated 3/9/05 8:42:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They are both high in iron. I was told to be careful by my homepathic vet with them due to the high iron when my cat was anemic. But I did use the Spirulina there is a drink with it at a the health stores and my cat seemed to like the taste. It's high in B vitamins. You can do a search on the net and should be able to order on line if you can't find it in the stores. GNC carry kelp I think maybe the other. Carla
Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick
Anita Sending healing vibes Anakin's way. Carla
Re: Please add Bethany Cat (BC) to the CLS
Danielle, I am sorry to hear of your loss of BC my heart goes out to you. Carla
RE: OT - Petitioning Oprah
Me too
RE: OT: please pray for Oreo
I will keep Oreo in my thoughts Carla
Re: Effie has her angel's wings
Del I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Effie, I hope that the thought of Liz watching over Effie help you find some comfort. My heart goes out to you Carla From: Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date sent: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:54:09 -0600 Copies to: Subject:Effie has her angel's wings Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Effie left us this morning and my friend, Liz, who passed away last week, is taking care of her in heaven. The pain from the growing mass against her spine took away her quality of life. It was awfully hard. It IS hard. You understand, we continue to look at their favorite places and those places are empty ... and I cry for her. My heart is broken. Thank you everyone for support and feedback. Without these groups, she would never have lived this long or this well. Del ^.^ Spay/Neuter Your Pet PLEASE Adopt a Shelter Pet PAWS of Union County, IL Rescue Angels On Wheels A Hamburger Stops a Beating Heart
Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY NEUTER Animal Stamp
I signed I will forward to other too!
RE: V-B 12 injection
The B-12 I had was about that color. Date sent: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 16:46:01 -0700 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:RE: V-B 12 injection Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Could someone confirm with me about this - is the color of V-B 12 injection sort of cranberry type red?
Re: Tip is Gone
Shelia I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Tip may he be at rest and watch over you from above. My heart goes out to you Carla From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:37:42 EST To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Tip is Gone Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I couldn't sleep tonight so I got a flash light and look again in the wooded area behind my house. I found my baby he has been dead for a couple days. His body was wet from rain we had over the weekend. I don't know how he died but it looks like maybe dogs or a car hit him. I am so overwhelmed with grief and guilt how could I let this happen to him. He was a big gentle love bug. I don't know if I'll ever get over this loss. I guess I have learned the hard way that there is no safe place out side. We will bury him in the morning next to his Mother. Thank you all for listening and for the prayers. Love, Sheila
Re: Gary update
Jill Very sorry to hear of Gary. Anemia is the pits, My Bamama (fiv+) had anemia and it was the toughest fight we had. My heart goes out to you and I am sure Gary will be watching over you from the a fluffy cloud above. Carla Date sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:40:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jill Poe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:Gary update Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org We had to euthanise Gary on Friday night. She was looking really good last Sunday/Monday and only looked OK on Tuesday but by Wednesday night/Thursday morning she had stopped eating completely and Thursday did not move at all (except to occassionally turn over). Force feeding was not an option because it could have landed her back in the oxygen tank. I now believe that the ONLY treatment for her anemia that she benefitted from was the blood transfusion, and we knew that the effects that had would be temporary. She didn't seem to respond favorably (or at least quickly) to the Epogen or the steroids and taking heroic measures (force or tube feeding, another temporary blood transfusion, etc.) would not have been humane, in our opinion. She was very weak and her quality life had disappeared almost overnight. We are very sad but not surprised by Gary's outcome. We were hoping she would be healthy for longer but are grateful that we could give her a nice couple of months so she didn't have to die in the shelter or on the street. She had a great personality and will be impossible to replace. FYI: I'm going to unsub from list. I only have limited experience with FeLV and this was my only cat with it. Several people on list have much more and similar experience to share with new members and all of my posts are in the archive so I don't feel it's necessary for me to stay. Thank you everyone for your advice and support! Jill __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
Re: question
Tonya I think it depends on the cat. Peggy had a cat with cancer and was anemic. They gave her less than 2 months to live. They put her on Pred to make her cat more confortable. She live over 18 months longer. She was getting B-12 shots for the anemia and pred for the cancer. So it helped her cat I think. Carla Date sent: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Copies to: Subject:question Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi all, I'm starting to wonder if my vets are very up to date on felv My positive, DD, is overgrooming. I haven't taken her in yet, but when I was in with Lovey on Saturday I asked her about it and she suggested using pred. She said as long as the cat is asymptomatic it wouldn't hurt to give a low dose. I've always heard this is a big NO for positives. In fact, some of you may remember that I lost my positive CC when I took her in for the same thing and they (a different vet) gave her a small dose of pred. She had overgroomed to the point of developing the neoplasta..whatever stuff. She was semiferal, so I didn't take her in until I absolutely had to. She developed a URI (probably from the office, as no one here had one) and never recovered. I think the stress of the office visit, probably getting the uri from there, and the pred. combined is what caused me to lose her. What do you all think? And what can I recommend for overgrooming if not pred? She's been doing this for a while. The last time I took her in the vet said it wasn't enough to worry about, but it's getting worse. When I told my vet on Saturday that I didn't think pred. was a good choice for a positive she said we could always try some sort of kitty prozac. Is there one any of you think is safe for a positive? Do you agree with the pred. idea? Thanks for any input! Tonya
Re: My Lucky is gone
Julie I am so sorry about Lucky must have missed your post on him. My heart goes out to you Carla
