Re: [Felvtalk] Question

[marlene melpignano]

From what I read (scientific articles) the virus might stay in the room from 2 
to 7 days. No conclusive data on this, but be careful. Even if a bite is surely 
the most common way to catch Felv 

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> Il giorno 22 nov 2017, alle ore 17:03, kresch...@mchsi.com ha scritto:
> 
> My take on this disease is that FeL is transmitted by direct contact with 
> blood or saliva from the infected cat. The FeLV is transmitted primarily 
> through a bite.
> - Original Message -
> From: Theresa O'Rourke 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:14:29 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question
> 
> I have three cats, and take care of other people’s cats.
> My daughter’s friend has a FeLV positive cat, can I keep her in a separate 
> room for a week, do I have to wash all the linens and clean the room, after 
> the cat goes back home?  It’s because I take care of other  friend’s cats 
> also and want to know if they can catch
> The disease. 
> 
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[Felvtalk] Stargate

[marlene melpignano]

Sorry for spamming, but I wanted to share my joy with you.
My friend just brought me the stargate.
I am proud of my country, my Italian vet, the Italian pharmacist, my family and 
my friends that arranged everything in less than 12 hours.
Maybe it won't have any effects, but with all their contributions they are 
giving me the possibility to try.
Above all my country that kept it legal for animals, despite all the stupid 
humans abusing of it.
And thanks to Ardy, Sandy, Amani, Lorrie, dlgegg and you all for the support.
Marlène and Microbo



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[Felvtalk] Stargate and Microbo

[marlene melpignano]

Dear all,
I went to France today, to an oncologic clinic, although I was very uncertain 
on what's better for my cat. But I think Microbo deserves a proper diagnosis in 
case there is still hope for treatments.
The French vet explained me that he would not suffer for the exam of his bone 
marrow since they use anesthesia and morphine, and actually he seems fine now, 
even better than yesterday, he was hungry once back home.

The vet thinks that despite the cortisone Microbo has taken, they can find 
what's wrong with him. He also thinks that Microbo has neither leukemia nor 
lymphoma. He thinks of something else related to the bone marrow and in one 
case out of three it would be treatable. The other two scenarios would lead to 
leukemia in any case.

He knew nothing about Winstrol/stargate but wanted all the articles I had. It 
seems that in France they rather use nandrolone. 

In one week we will have the result and in the meanwhile I should also get the 
stargate.
I found Sandy's article very interesting and saying the truth: it's not 
miraculous, but worth trying it when there is nothing we can loose. 
Now I feel better, since everything I could do has been done, including driving 
alone back and forth to France for almost 4 hours... but my kitty deserves this 
and even more.

Thanks for being there.
Kisses
M




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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

[marlene melpignano]

Dear all,
Good news: Winstrol is legal in Italy for animals and is called stargate. I 
found a pharmacist who can send it to me in Belgium or I will go to Rome myself 
on Saturday, he also said it is highly used in Italy for felv cats.
What is better, pills or injections? 
I thought of pills to cause less stress, but I read it may be more toxic for 
the liver compared to the injectable one .
I am also bringing the cat to a French specialised clinic this afternoon just 
to  get a better opinion than the Belgian one.

Thanks all for your support.
Best
M

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> Il giorno 02 nov 2017, alle ore 05:28, Ardy Robertson <ar...@centurytel.net> 
> ha scritto:
> 
> Marlene - My Tigger had an active leukemia when I began Winstrol, based on 
> his bloodwork. and he also was not eating. I gave him an appetite 
> stimulant called Mirtazapine, only a half of a 7.5 mg tablet, every 3rd day, 
> and that boosted his appetite. I also fed him the canned cat food that they 
> sell for after surgeries - it is very calorie dense but I don't remember the 
> name of it. Sometimes I had to clip a towel around him and syringe feed him a 
> little. I did not want to do that because he didn't like having me do that, 
> but I made up my mind that if was going to make it, he had to have some food 
> in him. I believe Amani knows the name of another good appetite stimulant. 
> When he would not drink any water, I gave him clam juice (we called it his 
> kitty cocktail)- he loved it. It is just shameful that Winstrol is not legal 
> for this use - they hold a grudge against it because of the misuse of it by a 
> few athletes. So our kitties have to suffer without the one thing that can 
> help them. It is also important to combine it with the Prednisolone and the 
> Doxycyclene because the Doxy has some property whereby it prevents the virus 
> from replicating. Best of luck with his treatment!!
> 
> Ardy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:47 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - 
> help
> 
> Don't apologize for questions, that is one way we learn.  I have had no 
> problems, but am sure Amani and others do have answers for you
> 
>  marlene melpignano <marl...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> Dear All,
>> Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
>> leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
>> result). 
>> My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
>> bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.
>> 
>> Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
>> treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?
>> 
>> About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in 
>> Europe and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go 
>> for chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had 
>> already a lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also 
>> whether they had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using 
>> doxycycline.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, 
>> and if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not 
>> eating ... 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help 
>> Marlène  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

[marlene melpignano]

Dear All,
Unfortunately last FNA of my cat showed that he has either a lymphoma or a 
leukemia (in Belgium they are so bad that they cannot even have a conclusive 
result). 
My vet in Italy thinks I have to bring him to a university clinic to have a 
bone marrow exam, in order to decide whether a chemotherapy is worth while.

Have you had any experience with lymphoma or leukemia in Felv cats? Have you 
treated them or would be desperate and painful for the cat?

About Winstrol, the two vets were not against it, but it is illegal in Europe 
and they would give me something similar in case I decide not to go for 
chemotherapy. However, they would like to know whether your cats had already a 
lymphoma or leukemia when you used it or were just Felv + and also whether they 
had infections going on; otherwise they doubt about using doxycycline.

Sorry for all the questions, but I am afraid there is not much to be done, and 
if I want to make it a last try I have to be fast. As of today he is not eating 
... 

Thanks for your help 
Marlène  


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Re: [Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

[marlene melpignano]

Thanks Kat and Amani for support and suggestions.
Unfortunately I currently live in Brussels where they have ZERO experience on 
felv cats. As medicaments, in Europe we only have interferon, that I cannot use 
at the same time of prednisone, but without it the anemia prevails... in 
Belgium they proposed me cyclosporine, which is not used at all in Italy.
My Italian vet read about LTCI and thinks we should give it a try, but it's 
very complicated to get it in Europe, and a German veterinary specialised in 
virology told me there are no scientific proofs that immunomodulator are 
effective in Felv.
And I cannot find anything recent about them in academics articles.. 

Sorry for bothering, but Europe is hundreds years behind you ... 


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[Felvtalk] Immunoregolin or Lymphocyte T-cell immunomodulator - help

[marlene melpignano]

Hi, I have a cat Felv +, after initial symptoms he was fine for more than one 
year. He has now developed anemia and we do not get by lowering the massive 
dose of prednisolone without instantly getting anemia back.
Anyone has experience with Immunoregolin or LTCI? (Lymphocyte t-cell 
immunomodulator) 
Thanks a lot,
Marlène (an Italian desperate cat mother)


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