Re: [Felvtalk] My Location...should you find an open minded vet...

2016-12-26 Thread Margo 


Robert, I saw that you are dealing with a non-regenerative anemia. Isn't that 
the only use for epo/aranesp? But I only know of it being used when kidney 
failure has been considered the cause. 

Do you think it would be useful in your situation?

Margo



-Original Message-
>From: ROBERT CHAPEL <bcha...@optonline.net>
>Sent: Dec 25, 2016 2:32 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Location...should you find an open minded vet...
>
>Thank you Amani and Ardy for thinking of me   I am located in a part 
>of NYS called Southern Orange County... The largest nearby towns are 
>Middletown, Monroe,Newburgh but I'd be willing to travel a distance for 
>a chance at a real result ( eg The Vet Opthalmologist I am using is 
>50 miles away)... NYC is 60 miles from me. Problem is that soon my 
>time availability is going to be compromised by my need to return to 
>work in order to afford the basics of life.  I know for some a few 
>thousand dollars is not much but for me in retirement it comprises a 
>very large portion of my living expenses for a few months ( I 
>do...after all, have a couple of needs of my own as wellsuch as food 
>and gas and a mortgage to pay  : )
>Any assistance you could lend would be well appreciated   I've done 
>more than a bit of asking around but am not well connected enough in 
>this "other" medical world yet to have confidence that I won't be 
>wasting still more money to hear crap that I already know 10 times 
>over.  Kind of the same conundrum as my going to a new MD for a drug 
>I've been on for 40 years He knows nothing about it but I need HIS 
>sig to  get it and until he knows me he's not going to trust that I know 
>what I'm talking about... or if he's really full of himself may not take 
>the time to listen to whether I even do It's THAT kind of money 
>wasting I am no longer willing to do Please forgive the building 
>frustration but being held captive by someones prescription pad while 
>their brain is too closed to allow me a chance at saving my little boy 
>is REALLY working on me    Winstrol,Doxy and Pred in combo don't 
>come near the price of one Bone Marrow aspiration and are a heck of a 
>lot cheaper than Epopoieten which is of little use in a non regenerative 
>anemia Don't tell me there's nothing tha you CAN do when it's 
>actually that there is nothing that you WILL do. Ok... I'll stop
>
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>> Bob
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>> At 14 haematocrit, you've got a ways to go before your boy is in 
>> crisis. I know you have tried everything Bob, and you are struggling 
>> with costs, but if you could find a vet to prescribe the drug 
>> combination we have discussed, would you do it? It isn?t all that 
>> expensive really. If you tell me or Ardy directly , where you are 
>> located, we can try to find a vet through Diamond Back compounding 
>> pharmacy. I know how attached you are to your little boy, and frankly, 
>> if he is still eating, I wouldn?t give up on him yet.
>>
>> Amani
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: December-24-16 2:54 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58
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>> Amani e

Re: [Felvtalk] My Location...should you find an open minded vet...

2016-12-25 Thread dlgegg 
Robert, I know how it is, I am on SS myself.  I have a great vet who will let 
me pay off large bills in payments which helps.  Just keep praying that things 
will go better.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Thank you Amani and Ardy for thinking of me   I am located in a part 
of NYS called Southern Orange County... The largest nearby towns are 
Middletown, Monroe,Newburgh but I'd be willing to travel a distance for 
a chance at a real result ( eg The Vet Opthalmologist I am using is 
50 miles away)... NYC is 60 miles from me. Problem is that soon my 
time availability is going to be compromised by my need to return to 
work in order to afford the basics of life.  I know for some a few 
thousand dollars is not much but for me in retirement it comprises a 
very large portion of my living expenses for a few months ( I 
do...after all, have a couple of needs of my own as wellsuch as food 
and gas and a mortgage to pay  : )
Any assistance you could lend would be well appreciated   I've done 
more than a bit of asking around but am not well connected enough in 
this "other" medical world yet to have confidence that I won't be 
wasting still more money to hear crap that I already know 10 times 
over.  Kind of the same conundrum as my going to a new MD for a drug 
I've been on for 40 years He knows nothing about it but I need HIS 
sig to  get it and until he knows me he's not going to trust that I know 
what I'm talking about... or if he's really full of himself may not take 
the time to listen to whether I even do It's THAT kind of money 
wasting I am no longer willing to do Please forgive the building 
frustration but being held captive by someones prescription pad while 
their brain is too closed to allow me a chance at saving my little boy 
is REALLY working on me    Winstrol,Doxy and Pred in combo don't 
come near the price of one Bone Marrow aspiration and are a heck of a 
lot cheaper than Epopoieten which is of little use in a non regenerative 
anemia Don't tell me there's nothing tha you CAN do when it's 
actually that there is nothing that you WILL do. Ok... I'll stop

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wrote:

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>2. Re: FelV kitten (Amani Oakley)
>3. Aloe Acemannan (Tina Terrell)
>4. Re: FelV kitten (Margo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 05:18:21 +
> From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
> [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Bob
>
> At 14 haematocrit, you've got a ways to go before your boy is in 
> crisis. I know you have tried everything Bob, and you are struggling 
> with costs, but if you could find a vet to prescribe the drug 
> combination we have discussed, would you do it? It isn?t all that 
> expensive really. If you tell me or Ardy directly , where you are 
> located, we can try to find a vet through Diamond Back compounding 
> pharmacy. I know how attached you are to your little boy, and frankly, 
> if he is still eating, I wouldn?t give up on him yet.
>
> Amani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: December-24-16 2:54 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58
>
> Amani et al
>
> Any idea of the life expectancy of untreated non regenerative anemia 
> in a FeLV catGot a call on Yogi's? Most Recent Bloodwork and the 
> vet states HCT of 14 and non regenerative anemia? I was taken 
> aback and didn't ask nearly enough questions but it was VERY clear 
> that she felt it was time to put the little guy down.?? I am at 
> the end of my money at this point and cannot take him to a bunch of 
> other vets hoping one will be willing to prescribe the cocktail that 
> is showing itself to be effective with others cats...( I don't think I 
> am going to get a lot of cooperation from the Vet I was using after I 
> gave her my opinion of her unwillingness to help me through 
> unconventional means).Nor can I afford Bone Marrow Biopsies and 
> more definitive narrowing of the parameters of his drop in blood 
>

Re: [Felvtalk] My Location...should you find an open minded vet...

2016-12-25 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL 
Thank you Amani and Ardy for thinking of me   I am located in a part 
of NYS called Southern Orange County... The largest nearby towns are 
Middletown, Monroe,Newburgh but I'd be willing to travel a distance for 
a chance at a real result ( eg The Vet Opthalmologist I am using is 
50 miles away)... NYC is 60 miles from me. Problem is that soon my 
time availability is going to be compromised by my need to return to 
work in order to afford the basics of life.  I know for some a few 
thousand dollars is not much but for me in retirement it comprises a 
very large portion of my living expenses for a few months ( I 
do...after all, have a couple of needs of my own as wellsuch as food 
and gas and a mortgage to pay  : )
Any assistance you could lend would be well appreciated   I've done 
more than a bit of asking around but am not well connected enough in 
this "other" medical world yet to have confidence that I won't be 
wasting still more money to hear crap that I already know 10 times 
over.  Kind of the same conundrum as my going to a new MD for a drug 
I've been on for 40 years He knows nothing about it but I need HIS 
sig to  get it and until he knows me he's not going to trust that I know 
what I'm talking about... or if he's really full of himself may not take 
the time to listen to whether I even do It's THAT kind of money 
wasting I am no longer willing to do Please forgive the building 
frustration but being held captive by someones prescription pad while 
their brain is too closed to allow me a chance at saving my little boy 
is REALLY working on me    Winstrol,Doxy and Pred in combo don't 
come near the price of one Bone Marrow aspiration and are a heck of a 
lot cheaper than Epopoieten which is of little use in a non regenerative 
anemia Don't tell me there's nothing tha you CAN do when it's 
actually that there is nothing that you WILL do. Ok... I'll stop


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   2. Re: FelV kitten (Amani Oakley)
   3. Aloe Acemannan (Tina Terrell)
   4. Re: FelV kitten (Margo)


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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 05:18:21 +
From: Amani Oakley To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58

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Bob

At 14 haematocrit, you've got a ways to go before your boy is in 
crisis. I know you have tried everything Bob, and you are struggling 
with costs, but if you could find a vet to prescribe the drug 
combination we have discussed, would you do it? It isn?t all that 
expensive really. If you tell me or Ardy directly , where you are 
located, we can try to find a vet through Diamond Back compounding 
pharmacy. I know how attached you are to your little boy, and frankly, 
if he is still eating, I wouldn?t give up on him yet.


Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of ROBERT CHAPEL

Sent: December-24-16 2:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 58

Amani et al

Any idea of the life expectancy of untreated non regenerative anemia 
in a FeLV catGot a call on Yogi's? Most Recent Bloodwork and the 
vet states HCT of 14 and non regenerative anemia? I was taken 
aback and didn't ask nearly enough questions but it was VERY clear 
that she felt it was time to put the little guy down.?? I am at 
the end of my money at this point and cannot take him to a bunch of 
other vets hoping one will be willing to prescribe the cocktail that 
is showing itself to be effective with others cats...( I don't think I 
am going to get a lot of cooperation from the Vet I was using after I 
gave her my opinion of her unwillingness to help me through 
unconventional means).Nor can I afford Bone Marrow Biopsies and 
more definitive narrowing of the parameters of his drop in blood 
values ( it's Xmas eve and they are all gone from the office)?? As 
much as I would like to save this little guy... He has so many other 
things wrong with him that I don't know that I a
 m doing him any favors. Temp is 104...weight has dropped a full 
pound in the last 6 months If it weren't for the fact that he is 
still eating