[Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
That is one reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with FELV,because it hits 
all at once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live a long time.The lady 
that had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats without FELV don't live 
that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next day not feeling 
well,next day or two gone. But, they died home when they were ready.Cathy Fron 
the BRonx N Y


From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon


Yeah, I wondered if there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice 
them.  It was like one night she started breathing a little funny and the next 
day it became worse so I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the 
trip made things a lot worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to 
the back to see what was going on.  By the time they did the x-ray and got back 
to me she was getting weak.  I went to the back where she was at to see her and 
talk with the vet and she died while we were talking.  I had no prep time at 
all and it was awful.  Here one day and gone the next.  Her name was Two Face.  
She was a torti with some white on her and half her face was orange and the 
other half black.  What a sweetheart.  Wish I could have had her for a lot 
longer.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain


 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:06:48 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
 CC: molvey...@hotmail.com
 
 That is the way it was with Nitnoy. We never really had the time to decide on 
 treatment before she was gone. I keep thinking there is something I missed 
 and should have seen.
 
 
  molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were lucky because 9 1/2 
 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had it as a kitten. 
 Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. Many live less 
 than a year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that was it. I have 
 heard of some that lived about that long but not too often if they got it as 
 a kitten from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived until it was 
 18. I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's really odd. I 
 had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. Like Prancer 
 she was fine then one day her breathing became labored. Before the vet and I 
 could even discuss what to do she died. At the time I did not know she had 
 FeLV because she tested negative as a kitten. They didn't see the tumor on 
 X-ray because of all the fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid 
 was coming from. Sure enough the vet found this large
 tumor and it had actually punctured her heart and the fluid in her chest was 
all blood. Then the vet got curious and did a combo test and found the FeLV. My 
guess is that most likely the tumor would have eventually ruptured Prancer's 
heart too so you probably did the best thing for Prancer. I didn't know they 
could treat those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case it was too late when we 
found it but I'm glad to know that in case something comes up in the future. 
Maureen Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: 
Terri Brown  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 
3:23 pm I used interferon with Salome'. I started her on it when she was about 
3 years old, and I gave it to her as often as I could get a hold of it. Salome' 
lived to be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver failure. Hope that helps! 
T =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec,
 Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire =^..^= - Original Message 
- From: Lisa Conner To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 
12, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon Hi All, I think everyone was so 
hung up with this politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions on Interferon and 
the length of years a Felv + cat has lived. Ok- so, I joined when my 9 + year 
old boy, Prancer became very sick..literally overnight. He breathing was 
extremely labored and I rushed him to the Emergency Vet. They said he was 
critical , and didn’t think he was going to make it. May be best to put him to 
sleep since he was Felv+ and needed oxygen and and his gums were pale. That 
night they extracted 3 ½ cups of fluid from his lungs. Thank goodness, because 
that saved his life. In the morning we transferred him to our regular vet and 
our vet thought it was his heart. He was right. The ultrasound showed a huge 
mass tumor at the base of his heart.
 The vet wasn’t sure how much 

Re: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
Well my Tucson turned 14 this year.  I lost my Romeo at age 9+ to lymphoma—it 
was also very fast…he was sick for a couple of weeks.  I know I sound like a 
broken record but FELV virus has been around long before anybody even knew 
about it.  Most cats don’t get tested—they certainly didn’t years ago.  If it 
were that lethal, there wouldn’t be any cats left.  I think there are probably 
a lot more cats out there not diagnosed living the good life.  

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

 

That is one reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with FELV,because it hits 
all at once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live a long time.The lady 
that had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats without FELV don't live 
that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next day not feeling 
well,next day or two gone. But, they died home when they were ready.Cathy Fron 
the BRonx N Y



 

From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon

 

Yeah, I wondered if there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice 
them.  It was like one night she started breathing a little funny and the next 
day it became worse so I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the 
trip made things a lot worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to 
the back to see what was going on.  By the time they did the x-ray and got back 
to me she was getting weak.  I went to the back where she was at to see her and 
talk with the vet and she died while we were talking.  I had no prep time at 
all and it was awful.  Here one day and gone the next.  Her name was Two Face.  
She was a torti with some white on her and half her face was orange and the 
other half black.  What a sweetheart.  Wish I could have had her for a lot 
longer.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:06:48 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
 CC: molvey...@hotmail.com
 
 That is the way it was with Nitnoy. We never really had the time to decide on 
 treatment before she was gone. I keep thinking there is something I missed 
 and should have seen.
 
 
  molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were lucky because 9 1/2 
 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had it as a kitten. 
 Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. Many live less 
 than a year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that was it. I have 
 heard of some that lived about that long but not too often if they got it as 
 a kitten from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived until it was 
 18. I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's really odd. I 
 had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. Like Prancer 
 she was fine then one day her breathing became labored. Before the vet and I 
 could even discuss what to do she died. At the time I did not know she had 
 FeLV because she tested negative as a kitten. They didn't see the tumor on 
 X-ray because of all the fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid 
 was coming from. Sure enough the vet found this large tumor and it had 
 actually punctured her heart and the fluid in her chest was all blood. Then 
 the vet got curious and did a combo test and found the FeLV. My guess is that 
 most likely the tumor would have eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too so 
 you probably did the best thing for Prancer. I didn't know they could treat 
 those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case it was too late when we found it but 
 I'm glad to know that in case something comes up in the future. Maureen Sent 
 from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Terri Brown 
  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm I used 
 interferon with Salome'. I started her on it when she was about 3 years old, 
 and I gave it to her as often as I could get a hold of it. Salome' lived to 
 be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver failure. Hope that helps! T 
 =^..^= Terri, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 8 furangels: Ruthie, 
 Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome, Sammi and Siggie the Tomato Vampire 
 =^..^= - Original Message - From: Lisa Conner To: 
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: 
 [Felvtalk] Interferon Hi All, I think everyone was so hung up with this 
 politcal debate, no one saw my 2 questions

Re: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread dlgegg
-Nitnoy was tortoise too.  She was like a brindle all over with 4 cream socks 
and a cream streak to one side of her nose which gave her a clownish look.  Add 
to that that a raccoon bit off all but 3 -4 of her tail and she was real 
short.  She was like a cute litle stuffed toy.  She was always in my face when 
I was eating and always first in line at feeding time  so I gave her a 2nd name 
garbage can.  Going to miss her a lot.

--- Christiane Biagi  wrote:  Well my Tucson turned 14 this year. I lost my 
Romeo at age 9+ to lymphoma—it was also very fast…he was sick for a couple of 
weeks. I know I sound like a broken record but FELV virus has been around long 
before anybody even knew about it. Most cats don’t get tested—they certainly 
didn’t years ago. If it were that lethal, there wouldn’t be any cats left. I 
think there are probably a lot more cats out there not diagnosed living the 
good life. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] 
On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:21 PM  To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are 
gone. That is one reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with 
FELV,because it hits all at once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live 
a long time.The lady that had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats 
without FELV don't live that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next 
day not feeling well,next day or two gone. But, they died home when they were 
ready.Cathy Fron the BRonx N Y   From: Maureen Olvey   To: 
dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Monday, October 15, 
2012 8:33 PM  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Yeah, I wondered if 
there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice them. It was like one 
night she started breathing a little funny and the next day it became worse so 
I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the trip made things a lot 
worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to the back to see what 
was going on. By the time they did the x-ray and got back to me she was getting 
weak. I went to the back where she was at to see her and talk with the vet and 
she died while we were talking. I had no prep time at all and it was awful. 
Here one day and gone the next. Her name was Two Face. She was a torti with 
some white on her and half her face was orange and the other half black. What a 
sweetheart. Wish I could have had her for a lot longer.   “I am not 
interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to 
the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals 
is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification 
of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark TwainDate: Mon, 15 Oct 
2012 19:06:48 -0500   From: dlg...@windstream.net   To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon   CC: 
molvey...@hotmail.com That is the way it was with Nitnoy. We never 
really had the time to decide on treatment before she was gone. I keep thinking 
there is something I missed and should have seen.    
molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were lucky because 9 1/2 years is 
a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had it as a kitten. Most cats that 
had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. Many live less than a year. If 
you were giving him interferon then maybe that was it. I have heard of some 
that lived about that long but not too often if they got it as a kitten from 
their mom. One vet told me about one that lived until it was 18. I kind of 
wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's really odd. I had one that died 
at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. Like Prancer she was fine then one 
day her breathing became labored. Before the vet and I could even discuss what 
to do she died. At the time I did not know she had FeLV because she tested 
negative as a kitten. They didn't see the tumor on X-ray because of all the 
fluid so we did a necropsy to see where the fluid was coming from. Sure enough 
the vet found this large tumor and it had actually punctured her heart and the 
fluid in her chest was all blood. Then the vet got curious and did a combo test 
and found the FeLV. My guess is that most likely the tumor would have 
eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too so you probably did the best thing for 
Prancer. I didn't know they could treat those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case 
it was too late when we found it but I'm glad to know that in case something 
comes up in the future. Maureen Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - 
Reply message - From: Terri Brown  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon 
Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm I used interferon with Salome'. I started her 
on it when she was about 3 years old, and I gave it to her as often as I could 
get a hold of it. Salome' lived to be 9 1/2 years old, and she died from liver 
failure. Hope

Re: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread Maureen Olvey

Oh, I just realized that it was today that you lost Nitnoy.  I'm so so sorry.  
Believe me, I know it's tough.  A couple weeks ago I lost a 2 year old but it 
was to cardiomyopathy.  Another out of the blue thing.  I'm still not over 
losing him.  I still have a houseful of kitties left to comfort me but each one 
is so special that when they go it seems to hurt just as much as if they were 
your only pet.  The problem with pets is that they can't tell you something is 
wrong when it first starts so lots of times by the time we figure out that they 
are ill it's too late to help them.  I know you will miss your little garbage 
can and again I'm sorry you lost her.  It just really sucks.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:06:53 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.
 
 -Nitnoy was tortoise too.  She was like a brindle all over with 4 cream socks 
 and a cream streak to one side of her nose which gave her a clownish look.  
 Add to that that a raccoon bit off all but 3 -4 of her tail and she was real 
 short.  She was like a cute litle stuffed toy.  She was always in my face 
 when I was eating and always first in line at feeding time  so I gave her a 
 2nd name garbage can.  Going to miss her a lot.
 
 --- Christiane Biagi  wrote:  Well my Tucson turned 14 this year. I lost my 
 Romeo at age 9+ to lymphoma—it was also very fast…he was sick for a couple of 
 weeks. I know I sound like a broken record but FELV virus has been around 
 long before anybody even knew about it. Most cats don’t get tested—they 
 certainly didn’t years ago. If it were that lethal, there wouldn’t be any 
 cats left. I think there are probably a lot more cats out there not diagnosed 
 living the good life. From: Felvtalk 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA  
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:21 PM  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
 Subject: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone. That is one 
 reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with FELV,because it hits all at 
 once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live a long time.The lady that 
 had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats without FELV don't live 
 that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next day not feeling 
 well,next day or two gone. But, they died home when they were ready.Cathy 
 Fron the BRonx N Y   From: Maureen Olvey   To: 
 dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Monday, October 
 15, 2012 8:33 PM  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Yeah, I 
 wondered if there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice them. 
 It was like one night she started breathing a little funny and the next day 
 it became worse so I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the trip 
 made things a lot worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to the 
 back to see what was going on. By the time they did the x-ray and got back to 
 me she was getting weak. I went to the back where she was at to see her and 
 talk with the vet and she died while we were talking. I had no prep time at 
 all and it was awful. Here one day and gone the next. Her name was Two Face. 
 She was a torti with some white on her and half her face was orange and the 
 other half black. What a sweetheart. Wish I could have had her for a lot 
 longer.   “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results 
 that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts 
 upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to 
 me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
 TwainDate: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:06:48 -0500   From: 
 dlg...@windstream.net   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Subject: Re: 
 [Felvtalk] Interferon   CC: molvey...@hotmail.com That is the way 
 it was with Nitnoy. We never really had the time to decide on treatment 
 before she was gone. I keep thinking there is something I missed and should 
 have seen.    molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were 
 lucky because 9 1/2 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had 
 it as a kitten. Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. 
 Many live less than a year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that 
 was it. I have heard of some that lived about that long but not too often if 
 they got it as a kitten from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived 
 until it was 18. I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's 
 really odd. I had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. 
 Like

Re: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone.

2012-10-15 Thread Marcia
I'm so sorry about Nitnoy)-:

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 15, 2012, at 9:06 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 -Nitnoy was tortoise too.  She was like a brindle all over with 4 cream socks 
 and a cream streak to one side of her nose which gave her a clownish look.  
 Add to that that a raccoon bit off all but 3 -4 of her tail and she was real 
 short.  She was like a cute litle stuffed toy.  She was always in my face 
 when I was eating and always first in line at feeding time  so I gave her a 
 2nd name garbage can.  Going to miss her a lot.
 
 --- Christiane Biagi  wrote:  Well my Tucson turned 14 this year. I lost my 
 Romeo at age 9+ to lymphoma—it was also very fast…he was sick for a couple of 
 weeks. I know I sound like a broken record but FELV virus has been around 
 long before anybody even knew about it. Most cats don’t get tested—they 
 certainly didn’t years ago. If it were that lethal, there wouldn’t be any 
 cats left. I think there are probably a lot more cats out there not diagnosed 
 living the good life. From: Felvtalk 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA  
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:21 PM  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
 Subject: [Felvtalk] No signs and then they are gone. That is one 
 reason the ASPCA does not adopt out cats with FELV,because it hits all at 
 once. FIV cats they adopt out,because they can live a long time.The lady that 
 had the cat for 91/2 yrs ,good for you. Some cats without FELV don't live 
 that long.Oh, It happened to me too,one day fine ,next day not feeling 
 well,next day or two gone. But, they died home when they were ready.Cathy 
 Fron the BRonx N Y   From: Maureen Olvey   To: 
 dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Monday, October 
 15, 2012 8:33 PM  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon Yeah, I 
 wondered if there had been any signs earlier but I just didn't notice them. 
 It was like one night she started breathing a little funny and the next day 
 it became worse so I took her to the vet and of course the stress of the trip 
 made things a lot worse so as soon as we got there the vets rushed her to the 
 back to see what was going on. By the time they did the x-ray and got back to 
 me she was getting weak. I went to the back where she was at to see her and 
 talk with the vet and she died while we were talking. I had no prep time at 
 all and it was awful. Here one day and gone the next. Her name was Two Face. 
 She was a torti with some white on her and half her face was orange and the 
 other half black. What a sweetheart. Wish I could have had her for a lot 
 longer.   “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results 
 that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts 
 upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to 
 me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
 TwainDate: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:06:48 -0500   From: 
 dlg...@windstream.net   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Subject: Re: 
 [Felvtalk] Interferon   CC: molvey...@hotmail.com That is the way 
 it was with Nitnoy. We never really had the time to decide on treatment 
 before she was gone. I keep thinking there is something I missed and should 
 have seen.    molvey...@hotmail.com  wrote:  Lisa, You were 
 lucky because 9 1/2 years is a long time for a FeLV cat, especially if he had 
 it as a kitten. Most cats that had FeLV as a kitten don't live past 3 years. 
 Many live less than a year. If you were giving him interferon then maybe that 
 was it. I have heard of some that lived about that long but not too often if 
 they got it as a kitten from their mom. One vet told me about one that lived 
 until it was 18. I kind of wonder if the vet was smoking dope cause that's 
 really odd. I had one that died at 2 years old that had a mediastinal tumor. 
 Like Prancer she was fine then one day her breathing became labored. Before 
 the vet and I could even discuss what to do she died. At the time I did not 
 know she had FeLV because she tested negative as a kitten. They didn't see 
 the tumor on X-ray because of all the fluid so we did a necropsy to see where 
 the fluid was coming from. Sure enough the vet found this large tumor and it 
 had actually punctured her heart and the fluid in her chest was all blood. 
 Then the vet got curious and did a combo test and found the FeLV. My guess is 
 that most likely the tumor would have eventually ruptured Prancer's heart too 
 so you probably did the best thing for Prancer. I didn't know they could 
 treat those kinds of tumors. In my cat's case it was too late when we found 
 it but I'm glad to know that in case something comes up in the future. 
 Maureen Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: 
 Terri Brown  To:  Subject: [Felvtalk] Interferon Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 
 3:23 pm I used interferon with Salome'. I started her