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They only get along in two's. In other words, Chloe and Lion get > > along. But when you put Kitty into the mix, they become territorial. Vice > > versa. Kitty now gets along with Lion since Chloe has been out of the picture. I would love to find Chloe a home with one other feline leukemia cat so she can have a buddy. I am still trying. > > But I'm open to ideas and input. Dotty > > > > From: Terri Brown > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT > > > > Dot, if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I > > see no reason why you shouldn't mix them. Like I've said before, I've > > mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected. > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= > > - Original Message - > > From: dot winkler > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT > > > > Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the > > disease Can you believe this. O.K. So, what do you know about the 5 > > stages? What does it mean? I think I heard that if your cat can make it > > through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the > > disease. Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others? My cat > > is so lonely. It breaks my heart. She wants to play with the others. Esp > > the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the two of them. I really would love to adopt her out. Just having a hard time finding someone. P.S. - I like the name Spicy! It is cute. Dot > > > > From: April Johnson > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV > > > > Hi Dot, > > > > This is all new to me too. I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a > > bedroom by herself. She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a sofa. Spicy has had no signs of the illness. So I didn't know she had it. I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later. The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea. So for a week she was with my other cats. I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV. Spicy is in stage 5. > > From: dot winkler > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV > > > > Hi April - I just read your mail. My cat, Chloe, female one year old, > > pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive. I have known since June > > when she had a fever. She has stabilized and is doing so well now. Very > > healthy and playful. She is a little "squirt", i call her. I have been > > looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to > > keep them separated. She is so cute. i hated to just put her down so > > figured i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her. Do you have > > other cats at home? How is your cat doing now? You said it's in her bone > > marrow. Are there different stages? I am not sure totally about the > > disease as this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the > > leukemia. So, it is all new to me also. Dot (freehold, NJ) > > > > From: April Johnson > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Update > > > > Hi, > > > > A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from > > animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV. I was > > questioning whether to get her a friend or not. Last week I had her blood > > sent out to confirm if she really had FELV. Well her results came in > > yesterday, it's in her bone marrow. I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full. I think I would need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right? I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do. > > > > April > > > &
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Hi I think you were the one who asked me if I could just try and integrate the 3 cats since I had mentioned the trio don't get along. I originally had Kitty (female) alpha. Then I brought in Chloe thinking she would be a nice playmate for Kitty. Chloe was a kitten then. Then Lionheart came along (FIV). Lion and Chloe bonded instantly. Lion, male dominant, kind of ousted Kitty. He and Chloe domineered. It was almost like even Chloe started antagonizing Kitty b/c she saw Lion doing it. Now that Chloe has the FELV, and is separated from the other two, Lion and Kitty have bonded together a little better. Although he still tends to domineer and he has perhaps a little too much "testosterone"! His idea of playing is "nipping" and Kitty doesn't like this. So it is not perfect, but better. So, I am afraid to bring Chloe back into the picture b/c #1 (the leukemia) #2 Lion and her may go back to their old antics! I am thinking perhaps better to find Chloe a nice home with another buddy. Wish I could do this easily. Dot From: April Johnson To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] reply I'm sorry but I just don't feel comfortable with mixing her with my other cats. All my other cats are negative to FIV and FELV but have other health issues. I also have several older cats. I've already had FIP introduced in my house, when I adopted a cat from a groomer. We had no idea she had it until, she stopped eating and had to be hospitalized. The vet did everything to get her to eat but nothing worked and we had to say good bye. Knock on wood no one else has ever showed signs. My Spicy has a home with me for life, a pet in my home is family. I'm just undecided on whether to get her a friend or not. April From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] reply I have been mixig felv pos and neg since 2008 and no problems yet. Everyone passed their physical with flying colors this year. Agai, I think giving quality food, love, a stable home and lots of exercise and clean water (I use fountains) is the key. This way, thei immune systems are operating at peak and bette able to resist infections. Gloria Lane wrote: > It's certainly personal choice, I certainly understand. Like I say, I've > mixed for several years and never had problems. I mix w FIV cats too. FIV > cats seem to have some problems with uri and gingivitis, never had one get > Felv. I think vets don't have much experience w FIV or Felv cats except for > the sick ones that come in and book learning, and the party line is to > isolate Felv cats so i understand. But I still find varying opinions among > vets some more flexible than others. > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:50 PM, dot winkler wrote: > > > Hi - I have been reading a lot of people saying that they have been mixing > > the cats. But I called my vet and he again said that it is risky. There > > is still a risk and chance the others could get it. And they may not pull > > out of it like my cat Chloe FELV) did during the first fever. I wouldn't > > want my other cat, Kitty to come down with it. The other male cat I have, > > Lion, has AIDS (FIV). I think he would be more susceptible of getting it > > even though he's been boostered with the Leukemia booster. > > I would like to adopt Chloe out (FELV) also because the trio don't get > > along. They only get along in two's. In other words, Chloe and Lion get > > along. But when you put Kitty into the mix, they become territorial. Vice > > versa. Kitty now gets along with Lion since Chloe has been out of the picture. I would love to find Chloe a home with one other feline leukemia cat so she can have a buddy. I am still trying. > > But I'm open to ideas and input. Dotty > > > > From: Terri Brown > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT > > > > Dot, if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I > > see no reason why you shouldn't mix them. Like I've said before, I've > > mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected. > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= > > - Original Message - > > From: dot winkler > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >
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Again, a large number of the people posting on this site MIX positives and negatives with the following caveat: 1. Negatives MUST be fully vaccinated incl: FIV and FeLV 2. After initial vaccination in negative adults there should be a waiting period before mixing. I think it is 1 month or so but others can confirm the correct incubation for the disease. 3. After initial AND boosters for younger cats/kittens I wait until the younger cat is 2 - 3 months past the final vaccination and or at least 6 - 7 months old before mixing. 4. I vaccinate the positive cats for all BUT FeLV and FIV (whichever they are positive for) I would suggest you get input on the above from others on this site who are FAR more knowledgeable then I am but that is what I have been doing for years now and so far have had NONE of my negatives become positive for either disease. kat On 9/7/11, April Johnson wrote: > this is what I found off the internet. I didn't hear that about making > threw the 5 phases, because there is a 6 when the disease takes over. I > know she's lonely sometimes because she loved being part of the family. She > was accepted by all the other cats. I'm torn between trying to find her > another cat with FELV or hoping she gets used to being by herself. Spicy > actually named herself. We were driving home from the shelter and I wanted > to name the other cat we adopted Spicy because she's orange. Well Spicy > kept answering to the name. Now Spicy is black and I never thought of > naming a black cat Spicy, but she had other ideas. I like the name Chloe we > had a cat for 14 years named Chloe, she had to be pts when her kidney's > shutdown. > > The disease has a wide range of effects. The cat can fight off the > infection and become totally immune, can become a healthy carrier that never > gets sick itself but can infect other cats, or a mid-level case in which the > cat has a compromised immune system.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the > development of lymphomas is considered the final stage of the disease. > Although it is thought that virus protein has to be present to induce > lymphomas in cats, newer evidence shows that a high percentage of > FeLV-Antigen negative lymphomas contain FeLV-DNA, indicating a "hit-and-run" > mechanism of virus induced tumor development.[1] > Once the virus has entered the cat, there are six phases to a FeLV > infection: > * Phase One: The virus enters the cat, usually through the pharynx > where it > infects the epithelial cells and infects the tonsorial B-lymphocytes and > macrophages. These white blood cells then filter down to the lymph nodes and > begin to replicate. > * Phase Two: The virus enters the blood stream and begins to distribute > throughout the body. > * Phase Three: The lymphoid system (which produces antibodies to attack > infected and cancerous cells) becomes infected, with further distribution > throughout the body. > * Phase Four: The main point in the infection- where the virus can take > over the body's immune system and cause viremia. During this phase the > hemolymphatic system and intestines become infected. > If the cat's immune system does not fight off the virus, then it goes onto: > * Phase Five: The bone marrow becomes infected. At this point, the virus > will stay with the cat for the rest of its life. In this phase, the virus > replicates and is released four to seven days later in infected neutrophils > (white blood cells), and sometimes lymphocytes, monocytes (white blood cell > formed in the bone marrow), and eosinophils (another white blood cell). > * Phase Six: The cat's body is overwhelmed by infection and mucosal and > glandular epithelial cells (tissue that forms a thin protective layer on > exposed bodily surfaces and forms the lining of internal cavities, ducts, > and organs) become infected. The virus replicates in epithelial tissues > including salivary glands, oropharynx, stomach, esophagus, intestines, > trachea, nasopharynx, renal tubules, bladder, pancreas, alveolar ducts, and > sebaceous ducts from the muzzle. > > From: dot winkler > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT > > > Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease > Can you believe this. O.K. So, what do you know about the 5 stages? What > does it mean? I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five > stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease. Anyway, how is > it keeping your cat apart from the others? My cat is so lonely. It breaks > my heart. She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows > from t
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this is what I found off the internet. I didn't hear that about making threw the 5 phases, because there is a 6 when the disease takes over. I know she's lonely sometimes because she loved being part of the family. She was accepted by all the other cats. I'm torn between trying to find her another cat with FELV or hoping she gets used to being by herself. Spicy actually named herself. We were driving home from the shelter and I wanted to name the other cat we adopted Spicy because she's orange. Well Spicy kept answering to the name. Now Spicy is black and I never thought of naming a black cat Spicy, but she had other ideas. I like the name Chloe we had a cat for 14 years named Chloe, she had to be pts when her kidney's shutdown. The disease has a wide range of effects. The cat can fight off the infection and become totally immune, can become a healthy carrier that never gets sick itself but can infect other cats, or a mid-level case in which the cat has a compromised immune system.[citation needed] Nevertheless, the development of lymphomas is considered the final stage of the disease. Although it is thought that virus protein has to be present to induce lymphomas in cats, newer evidence shows that a high percentage of FeLV-Antigen negative lymphomas contain FeLV-DNA, indicating a "hit-and-run" mechanism of virus induced tumor development.[1] Once the virus has entered the cat, there are six phases to a FeLV infection: * Phase One: The virus enters the cat, usually through the pharynx where it infects the epithelial cells and infects the tonsorial B-lymphocytes and macrophages. These white blood cells then filter down to the lymph nodes and begin to replicate. * Phase Two: The virus enters the blood stream and begins to distribute throughout the body. * Phase Three: The lymphoid system (which produces antibodies to attack infected and cancerous cells) becomes infected, with further distribution throughout the body. * Phase Four: The main point in the infection- where the virus can take over the body's immune system and cause viremia. During this phase the hemolymphatic system and intestines become infected. If the cat's immune system does not fight off the virus, then it goes onto: * Phase Five: The bone marrow becomes infected. At this point, the virus will stay with the cat for the rest of its life. In this phase, the virus replicates and is released four to seven days later in infected neutrophils (white blood cells), and sometimes lymphocytes, monocytes (white blood cell formed in the bone marrow), and eosinophils (another white blood cell). * Phase Six: The cat's body is overwhelmed by infection and mucosal and glandular epithelial cells (tissue that forms a thin protective layer on exposed bodily surfaces and forms the lining of internal cavities, ducts, and organs) become infected. The virus replicates in epithelial tissues including salivary glands, oropharynx, stomach, esophagus, intestines, trachea, nasopharynx, renal tubules, bladder, pancreas, alveolar ducts, and sebaceous ducts from the muzzle. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease Can you believe this. O.K. So, what do you know about the 5 stages? What does it mean? I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease. Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others? My cat is so lonely. It breaks my heart. She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the two of them. I really would love to adopt her out. Just having a hard time finding someone. P.S. - I like the name Spicy! It is cute. Dot From: April Johnson To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi Dot, This is all new to me too. I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a bedroom by herself. She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a sofa. Spicy has had no signs of the illness. So I didn't know she had it. I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later. The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea. So for a week she was with my other cats. I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV. Spicy is in stage 5. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi April - I just read your mail.
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Dot, if your other cats are current on vaccinations and are negative, I see no reason why you shouldn't mix them. Like I've said before, I've mixed mine in the past and never have I had a negative become infected. My 2 cents. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: dot winkler<mailto:venus7ora...@yahoo.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] REPLY FROM DOT Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease Can you believe this. O.K. So, what do you know about the 5 stages? What does it mean? I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease. Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others? My cat is so lonely. It breaks my heart. She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the two of them. I really would love to adopt her out. Just having a hard time finding someone. P.S. - I like the name Spicy! It is cute. Dot -- From: April Johnson To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi Dot, This is all new to me too. I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a bedroom by herself. She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a sofa. Spicy has had no signs of the illness. So I didn't know she had it. I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later. The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea. So for a week she was with my other cats. I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV. Spicy is in stage 5. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi April - I just read your mail. My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive. I have known since June when she had a fever. She has stabilized and is doing so well now. Very healthy and playful. She is a little "squirt", i call her. I have been looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated. She is so cute. i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her. Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat doing now? You said it's in her bone marrow. Are there different stages? I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia. So, it is all new to me also. Dot (freehold, NJ) From: April Johnson To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Update Hi, A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV. I was questioning whether to get her a friend or not. Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV. Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone marrow. I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full. I think I would need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right? I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do. April ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemi
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Hi April - My vet didn't know anything about the 5 stages of the disease Can you believe this. O.K. So, what do you know about the 5 stages? What does it mean? I think I heard that if your cat can make it through all five stages, then they have developed an immunity to the disease. Anyway, how is it keeping your cat apart from the others? My cat is so lonely. It breaks my heart. She wants to play with the others. Esp the male cat who she knows from the clan where i rescued the two of them. I really would love to adopt her out. Just having a hard time finding someone. P.S. - I like the name Spicy! It is cute. Dot From: April Johnson To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi Dot, This is all new to me too. I do have other cats at home, Spicy lives in a bedroom by herself. She has two windows to look out of, a cat tree and a sofa. Spicy has had no signs of the illness. So I didn't know she had it. I adopted her the first weekend in June and took her to the vet a week later. The receptionist at my vets was the one that stressed getting the test done because she knew that the shelter I adopted her from didn't test, I had no idea. So for a week she was with my other cats. I just looked it up there are 6 stages of FELV. Spicy is in stage 5. From: dot winkler To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update/MY CAT NEEDS HOME WITH FELV Hi April - I just read your mail. My cat, Chloe, female one year old, pretty gray/black/caramel tabby, is also positive. I have known since June when she had a fever. She has stabilized and is doing so well now. Very healthy and playful. She is a little "squirt", i call her. I have been looking for a home for her since I have two other negative cats and have to keep them separated. She is so cute. i hated to just put her down so figured i would give it a shot to see if i could adopt her. Do you have other cats at home? How is your cat doing now? You said it's in her bone marrow. Are there different stages? I am not sure totally about the disease as this is the first cat I have ever had in 30 years that has the leukemia. So, it is all new to me also. Dot (freehold, NJ) From: April Johnson To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Update Hi, A couple of weeks ago I posted about my cat Spicy who I had adopted from animal control unaware she hadn't been tested for FELV/FIV. I was questioning whether to get her a friend or not. Last week I had her blood sent out to confirm if she really had FELV. Well her results came in yesterday, it's in her bone marrow. I still haven't decided on a friend for her yet, I'm unsure what to do with my house already full. I think I would need to adopt another cat with it already in their bone marrow too, right? I've never had a FELV+ cat, so I don't know what to do. April ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
