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In a message dated 2/17/07 1:42:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patti, I'm so sorry you had to make the decision to let Bart go. It sounds like he did come to you for help though. It's amazing, the tie we share with cats, isn't it? I'm glad he came to you and didn't die cold and alone. I hope Charity is doing well. Deep inside I knew it was the right decision. I have promised all my fur babies that I would never let them suffer And, clearly Bart was.. My biggest regret is that he didn't "trust" me sooner..I really believe that although he was so feral, he did count on me & maybe even trusted me. But, apparently he was old, lived on the streets & never trusted humans...Who can blame him? Not me.. His prognosis was, let's say, BAD I couldn't bare the thought of what he would have to go through. And, me, now being "disabled", would have to rely on my rescue buddies for transport. And, w/ all he would have needed, I was frantic at the thought of NOT being able to get him to vetjust more suffering. Thank heavens Charity finally came around, and I believe with all my heart that night of blizzard, she came to me to help Bart. And, she was determined, no matter what (blizzard, Rottie, etc.) that she wouldn't give up... She knew Bart needed help - soon, and I know she knew that I was the only person she could trust... As I said before, it was at least a 3 hour ordeal..She didn't give up, neither did I. I still find it absolutely amazing that this mean old VERY feral boy let me help him... I think he also "knew" he was ill. And probably didn't want to pass - alone, cold on the streets. After all his years, he finally found someone to trust - just a shame it took so long. At the vets, well, what can I say? His beautiful eyes seemed to be saying "Thank you & it's ok". I still cry when I remember that day.. He "allowed" me to stroke him & kiss him, which I seemed to do the entire time we were there. Unbelievable - this big, old feral tom who I had trapped once [memory coming back?], lunged out of trap & went right to my stomach area. Ended up in ER (a regular thing when trying to help my ferals/strays) Still have "his marks".. Now I only pray the scars never fade.. Charity is doing very well.. Safe & warm in house. Lots of bedding, plenty to eat & guess what? She DOES use litter box! [Still say she WAS someone's "pet" & they dumped her when she had her babies} I (sadly) do have her in a large crate.. With her close association w/ Bart, and all that's been going on with my bunch, well, I feel it's the best option right now. She is NOT showing any symptoms of anything, and while at vet, discussing my Puma, (originally diagnosed w/ [dry] FIP & toxo), even my vet said that the FIP diagnosis could have been an error... Corona virus shows up in many cats.. And, there is just too many similarities w/ BW diagnosing toxo & FIP... Puma has finished all meds, and is back to his same old ancient self... YEAH! Charity goes to vet next week. Should be a "trip" as I am the only human she trusts!!! I do intend to have her tested, as I no longer have any Felv kitties. She was tested when spayed, was negative, but life on the streets? But even "if" she does come up +, so what??? It's not a death sentence, and I'm sure I can make accommodations right hereHave a large, spare room we are not using. It's not the Ritz, but a heck of a lot better than life on the streets. And, yes, it is absolutely amazing the tie we share w/ cats. ( Just a shame that there are TOO many people that can't relate) We are an elite group. And the people on this list are so special..I joined when I rescued my Ethan [Felv+], who, sadly passed But, being at the shelter,no-kill, and having many experiences w/ Felv kitties, I've never left... Now, I can no longer be at shelter, but, I just couldn't even think of leaving. Gosh, I really rambled, huh? That's what happens when you're "housebound" And, now, my [semi] good eye is giving out Just wanted to say thank you for your kind words about my Bart Hugs, Patti
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Patti, I'm so sorry you had to make the decision to let Bart go. It sounds like he did come to you for help though. It's amazing, the tie we share with cats, isn't it? I'm glad he came to you and didn't die cold and alone. I hope Charity is doing well. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
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I believe that Charity led you to Bart to help him in his passing. Poor mite was so sick :( Bless you Patti for your loving care of animals. Gina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan Visit my Tigger Tales site! - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
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Thank you Patty for loving Bart and doing what was right for him. I know he is grateful to you for caring. He is your angel now . Sheila
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Patti, I just read about you and Bart and his trip to the vet's this morning. I am so very sorry that he had to cross. You are very brave to do that for him. Thank you for taking the wonderful care of him that you did. :) Wendy --- "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Patti > I have absolutely no doubt at all that smart, > compassionate little > Charity led you to Bart. > Your email brought tears to my eyes. I am glad tho, > so glad, that Bart > did not pass alone, had you, loving and caring for > him, by his side. > KNEW at least at the end of his life that he was > loved. > >>>Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, > And, they are my > world.<<< > Makes me want to go home right now and give all of > mine an extra cuddle. > >>>I am very thankful to be a part of this group.<<< > I for one am very thankful *you're* part of this > group Patti! Thanks a > million for being who you are and doing all you do > for all the lost > little souls that find their way to you, hugs, Kerry > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:49 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: Bart > > > Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, > concerns and prayers for > Bart and me. > After I sent that post about my feral friend, > (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I > DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get > him in a large crate > and into secluded area of house I hated having > to lift him, he was > so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him > being so sick & > inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I > had insulated it.. > > > The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with > him when he crossed > the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How > strange is that??? He > was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I > ever came across in > all my years And, very, very savvy. Never > could trap him over the > past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an > alternative > method.) > I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their > trust, Charity > "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he > needed help, so she > turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does > like cats, just > freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out > on leash.. The > way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, > but Charity would not > give up......When I look back, I am so very thankful > that none of us got > hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off > leash & Charity not > being challenged by my very large, very territorial, > Rottie). I am also > very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & > Bart into my > care. > > At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, > of course, but he > kept looking at me and I just "knew" > He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. > Unbelievable. The vet did > pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. > Besides the fluid in > his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a > good sign. And, he > had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already > "missing" quite a > few.. > His "vision" was also questionable.. > My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to > lay down, but just > couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. > Broke my heart.. > Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" > of Bart > recovering... He explained that although it was > almost a textbook > case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular > draining), he also was most > assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. > Also, he "explained" > it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, > liver, kidneys - I'm sure > you all get the picture. His prognosis was very > poor, with NO > guarantees. > I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my > babies, so I made > the dreaded decision.. > My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the > euthanasia solution, > and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I > stroked him & kissed his > (big "ole) head.. > Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play > God".. > And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a > feral/stray.. > Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can > explain it... > Well, it's feeding time a
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Dear Patti I have absolutely no doubt at all that smart, compassionate little Charity led you to Bart. Your email brought tears to my eyes. I am glad tho, so glad, that Bart did not pass alone, had you, loving and caring for him, by his side. KNEW at least at the end of his life that he was loved. >>>Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world.<<< Makes me want to go home right now and give all of mine an extra cuddle. >>>I am very thankful to be a part of this group.<<< I for one am very thankful *you're* part of this group Patti! Thanks a million for being who you are and doing all you do for all the lost little souls that find their way to you, hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bart Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/peeps-emt/love/clips/clip2-love2> (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/cat> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax
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Patti,Bart was so lucky that he had you for a guardian to look after him.Take care. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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I am so sorry. My heart hurts for you. What you did was kind though - no dear one should have to suffer like that. Love and hugs to you, elizabeth On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (*very hard *) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She *knew *he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity *not* being challenged by my *very large, very territorial, *Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly *very anemic*. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made *the dreaded decision..* My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I *HATE* having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
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You most certainly are not playing Godyou are acting as a true friend to a wonderful cat and with God's blessings. Do you really think these fine animals just wandered into your life by accident? A wonderful creator saw their needs and your compassion and sent them to you. Some of us swear that SUCKER is written on our foreheads. This is not a bad thing. It can be a very painful thing at times but it is not a bad thing. It allows our hearts to break but, in breaking, they grow---if we have the guts to allow it. You have that courage. Bart and his friends bless you for this. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally Davis To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Bart Dear Patti I am so sorry you had to let Bart go. He trusted you and you did the right thing. He is now pain free. Bless you Sally On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight
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Dear Patti I am so sorry you had to let Bart go. He trusted you and you did the right thing. He is now pain free. Bless you Sally On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (*very hard *) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She *knew *he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity *not* being challenged by my *very large, very territorial, *Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly *very anemic*. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made *the dreaded decision..* My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I *HATE* having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan -- Junior needs your help with his care fighting Feline Leukemia. Our story www.geocities.com/dmyllas/sally_page.html please help us if you can https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=puttyrat%40k6az.com
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i'm so sorry, hon, but i'm very glad that charity and bart were able to ask for your help. thank you for loving him enough to give him peace and freedom from such pain. it is NEVER easy; i don't think that it is playing god, so much as as accepting the responsibilty of having "dominion over" the creatures granting into our care. (not at all the same thing as domination) there are some things they cannot do for themselves. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
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Prayers for you and for Bart elizabeth On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity *wanted* me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she *knew* he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he *is* in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I *hate* having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He *knows* I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am *NOT* looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest. I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. *WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE?* Hugs, Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan
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Oh Patti, I have been exactly where you are too many times. The thought that keeps running through my mind is how much harder it is on our friends and on us when we see them suffering and are not in a position to help. The frantic feeling when we are witness to their suffering, but they remain just out of reach is almost too hard to bear. MC is right, Charity and Bart have given you the gift of trust. You my dear are trustworthy. No matter how difficult, whatever decisions you make for Bart will come from love and concern. They put themselves in your hands because they know that. Sending love, comfort and prayers that the news is good from the vet, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity */wanted/* me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she /knew/ he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he *is* in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I */hate/* having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He *knows* I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am *NOT* looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest..... I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. *WISH FOR THE BEST! /PLEASE?/* Hugs, Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan
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Patti, I hope and pray that Bart gets good news at the vet's. Please keep us posted on him. :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about > Bart.. > Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too > worried > Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- > tonight when I picked him > up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas > if in pain. (Poor boy, > probably IS ) > Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. > I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity wanted > me to help her > companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff > her in yard, and ended up making me > follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart > was there > It's like she knew he was sick & needed help, so she > led me to him. > I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to > observe. He was > curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking > up to make sure "Mom" was > still there. > After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to > hold him. Didn't want to > put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he is > in pain, probably too > much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking > because I hate having to make > "that decision". > However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will > never let them > suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral > cat I have ever encountered, does > know & trust me, that's why he's done such a > turn-around. He knows I will > take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering > from I can only take > comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least > he won't just suffer & die > (alone) out on the streets. > I am NOT looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know > Bart does need veterinary > help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me > sooner. > Better go, and try to get some rest. > I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for > sure. > Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for > my dear Bart,,, > Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & > heartbroken. > Will update after Bart's appt. > WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE? > Hugs, > > Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan > > Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
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Dearest Patti, Praying as hard as I can for Bart, Patti, and for you to feel strong when you take him to the vet. I'm so glad Charity led him to you as she surely did. And, you're so right--he does now have you on his side, and now knows what it is to be loved and cared for. (Looking at my watch, and you being ET, I think maybe you've been to the vet by now?) Keep us posted when you have the energy/time. big hugs to you both, Kerry M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Bart Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity wanted me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she knew he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he is in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I hate having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He knows I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am NOT looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest. I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE? Hugs, <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/peeps-emt/love/clips/clip2-love2> Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/cat> IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Patti, you have my heartfelt wishes, hopes and vibes that Bart comes back from the vet feeling much, much better and will have many years with you. But if you have to make the decision, you are right, it is better for him to go surrounded by your love and compassion than out on his own. In either case, hugs to both of you. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Bart Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity wanted me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she knew he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he is in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I hate having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He knows I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am NOT looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest..... I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE? Hugs, <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/peeps-emt/love/clips/clip2-love2> Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan <http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/cat> This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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GLOW to bart, and to you, patti. and i believe you are right--even the most feral will sometimes come to those humans they come closest to trusting, knowing that they will help... "she ain't bad, for a human." and that's really a gift, when you think about it... MC On 2/6/07, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patti you and bart are in my prayers.Good luck. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity *wanted* me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she *knew* he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he *is* in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I *hate* having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He *knows* I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am *NOT* looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest. I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. *WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE?* Hugs, Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan -- Get your own web address.<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49678/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL> Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Patti you and bart are in my prayers.Good luck. Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity wanted me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she knew he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he is in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I hate having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He knows I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am NOT looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest. I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE? Hugs, Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
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Prayers for you and Bart, Patti. I know how difficult this is. Renee In a message dated 2/6/2007 4:07:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart..
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Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity wanted me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she knew he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he is in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I hate having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He knows I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am NOT looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest..... I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE? Hugs, Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan
Re: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
Thank you ALL for your replies You are all SO caring& wonderful! As of today, my Charity is eating very well, using litter box, allowing me to stroke her, purring... She really seems very content, Now Bart, well, besides being so bloated, he is NOT eating (much). When I went out to barn to feed, water & clean his crate, I noticed that he's a pretty good "deciever" - He has been "hiding" his food... Under all his blankets, under his bed... And, he's NOT eating much of his dry food (EVO)... No wonder he's so skinny, but WHY? He did have some very small firm feces in his litter box, so he must be eating a very small amount of "something" I am really, really worried about him... The sooner I can get him to vet & get "answers", well, I'll go from there. Apparently, he is VERY old. Just "how" old we'll never know for sure. But, he let me stroke him, seemed to enjoy it. Kept coming back for more.. Hard to believe that when I first "encountered" him, he was probably one of the meanest ferals I'd ever come across. (And, I have a "history" of working w/ ferals, many success stories. Maybe he's one more. I just hope it's NOT because he's so sick) And, since we're in this deep-freeze, I did my best to insulate the barn more... It can't be too bad in barn, cause his water didn't freeze solid So, I put some "thermal thingys" under his bowls to try to prevent any freezing.. Another thing I noticed today, was that the dry food in their outside feeding station was all gone.. So I guess I have more strays/ferals relying on me..... Naturally, I did fill the bowl...With this weather, 5 (FIVE) degrees, the poor babies need the food I'm just really worried about Bart.. Bloating, skinny, not eating... At least I know he's in a nice warm bed, and there is plenty of food (in case he decides to eat). Need to get to vet ASAP Even if I have to cancel one of my MANY Dr. appts. I am at some health care place every day, except Wed. & Fri. And, since I'm not making any progress, it's only natural (for me), that a furbaby's needs take precedence... I only wish I could save them all.. Again, thanks to ALL of you! This has always been such a supportive group I LOVE YOU ALL Hugs, Patti & her ever-growing clan
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Patty, Bart & Charity are blessed to have you & so are we. You are such an inspiration. Please keep us up on there progress. I'm so happy they are out of the cold. Sheila
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Patty, You are so amazing and strong.
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Patti, you are an inspiration and an excellent example of mind over matter (or medicine). I agree w/MC about the recliner, that's awesome:) BTW, anyone want to borrow Bandit? Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 9:04:08 PM Subject: Re: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe W/ me!!! oh, great news! (warped person that i am, and fellow gimp, what struck me as most remarkable, is that you are wise enough to have a recliner in the barn for when you need it!) MC On 2/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts o
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oh, great news! (warped person that i am, and fellow gimp, what struck me as most remarkable, is that you are wise enough to have a recliner in the barn for when you need it!) MC On 2/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old. He is eating, and I do venture out (slowly & carefully) to feed and water him daily. One thing I noticed, his water only had a partial skim on top, not frozen thru. So, I guess the barn is pretty well insulated. Just pray we can get to vet early this week... I would have written sooner, but besides being over-whatever, my room mate was NOT too happy. But, I told him, da-m it, I survived the MVA 'cause I have work
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Patti, Congratulations on just getting through that night! I hope Bart checks out ok with the vet, and the bloating goes away. You are all in my prayers. Be CAREFUL out in the snow and ice. I hope the cold weather breaks soon. I don't remember where you live. But it sounds like the barn is insulated enough for Bart right now. Good luck with the two of them! tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old. He is eating, and I do venture out (slowly & carefully) to feed and water him daily. One thing I noticed, his water only had a partial skim on top, not frozen thru. So, I guess the
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Charity & Bart are in my thoughts and prayers. I think what you are doing is wonderful, Patti. Please keep us updated. Renee
RE: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
Patti, you are a wonder! Congratulations on getting the furbabies inside and safe from the storm. Here are vibes that they both check out OK at the vet and that Bart doesn't have FIP. You go girl!! Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe W/ me!!! I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old. He is eating, and I do venture out (slowly & carefully) to feed and water him daily. One thing I noticed, his water only had a partial skim on top, not frozen thru.
Re: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
At 11:11 AM 2/4/2007, you wrote: I am soo happy these guys are safe and warm and cared for. It is amazing that regardless of our distress we always accommodate just one more and sleep so much better knowing they are safe. PLEASE let us know how they are doing,, no go make some hot chocolate and cover up. Kelly www.kellyscatrs.zoomshare.com I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old. He is eating, and I do venture out (slowly & carefully) to feed and water him daily. One thing I noticed, his water only had a partial skim on top, not frozen thru. So, I guess the barn is pretty well insulated. Just pray we can get to vet early this week.
OT: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old. He is eating, and I do venture out (slowly & carefully) to feed and water him daily. One thing I noticed, his water only had a partial skim on top, not frozen thru. So, I guess the barn is pretty well insulated. Just pray we can get to vet early this week... I would have written sooner, but besides being over-whatever, my room mate was NOT too happy. But, I told him, da-m it, I survived the MVA 'cause I have work to do - and it IS my rescue work!!! And, prior to getting Charity & Bart, I was ready to call it a daySo depresse