Re: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
Did anyone ever catch that show Titus back in 2000-2002? It was basically the show about a "disfunctional family" to end all disfunctional families. The main character (actual comic Christopher Titus wrote the show based on his family)...mother was a paranoid pychotic, with multible personality disorder who routinely attempted to kill his father...his father was a verbally abusing, womanizing alcoholic-"who lived to make my life a living hell, crush my self esteem and ruin any chance I ever had for happiness...I love my father!" Titus croons in the pilot. On one episode they touch on the subject of Hunrting Guns: In a flash back,Titus is walking through a K-mart with his father and passes a rack of rifles, a salesman andseveral customers lining up the sites of one gun, looking at others.he says to his father, "DAD, I WANT ONE OF THOSE!"His father causally tosses back, "You don't need a gun son,men in our family have penises." One of my favorite shows...one of my favorite lines!Lewis Faye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My uncles swear that once upon a time, there were rules, rules of safety, rules of civility, rules of respect of nature but that is has changed. They don't understand uzis to kill deer either. Their take on it is if you need an automatic rifle to kill a deer, hunting just may not be your sport. LOLBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there have been any studies to show that some people carrying guns tend to behave badly just as do other people when they get behind the wheel of a car. I'm on another animal list where a guy forwards news items about hunter bad behavior. There was a case, it may have been in Pennsylvania, when a hunter accidentally shot a pregnant woman standing in front of her cabin in the woods. She consequently lost her baby. The guy was fined and maybe did a few days in jail, but the woman said the worst thing was that he didn't even apologize. I'm just kind of wondering about factors coming into play -like being behind the wheel of a car, carrying a weapon, wearing a uniform, being in a large group, that seem to bring out otherwise inhibited behavior in people.At least the governor of Wisconsin has also said there will be no cat hunting on his watch.Bonnie- Original Message -From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:56 amSubject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! ug. the hunters I know ARE like that. Unfortunately some are members of my extended family. t Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I have to take exception to the description of most hunters being like that. My whole family has hunted over the years (I'm from northern WI) and I don't personally know anyone that foolish. Unfortunately, like with most other areas, the ones that make the news and create the stereotypes are the ones who do things like that. I think most hunters are responsible and follow the laws. I even have 2 game wardens in the family:) I had not heard of the incident at the school bus stop, where was that? tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticle moving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doors when I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
ug. the hunters I know ARE like that. Unfortunately some are members of my extended family. tBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to take exception to the description of most hunters being like that. My whole family has hunted over the years (I'm from northern WI) and I don't personally know anyone that foolish. Unfortunately, like with most other areas, the ones that make the news and create the stereotypes are the ones who do things like that. I think most hunters are responsible and follow the laws. I even have 2 game wardens in the family:) I had not heard of the incident at the school bus stop, where was that?tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticlemoving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doorswhen I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
Re: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
I wonder if there have been any studies to show that some people carrying guns tend to behave badly just as do other people when they get behind the wheel of a car. I'm on another animal list where a guy forwards news items about hunter bad behavior. There was a case, it may have been in Pennsylvania, when a hunter accidentally shot a pregnant woman standing in front of her cabin in the woods. She consequently lost her baby. The guy was fined and maybe did a few days in jail, but the woman said the worst thing was that he didn't even apologize. I'm just kind of wondering about factors coming into play - like being behind the wheel of a car, carrying a weapon, wearing a uniform, being in a large group, that seem to bring out otherwise inhibited behavior in people. At least the governor of Wisconsin has also said there will be no cat hunting on his watch. Bonnie - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:56 am Subject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! ug. the hunters I know ARE like that. Unfortunately some are members of my extended family. t Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to take exception to the description of most hunters being like that. My whole family has hunted over the years (I'm from northern WI) and I don't personally know anyone that foolish. Unfortunately, like with most other areas, the ones that make the news and create the stereotypes are the ones who do things like that. I think most hunters are responsible and follow the laws. I even have 2 game wardens in the family:) I had not heard of the incident at the school bus stop, where was that? tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, you're not a dumb Brit your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticle moving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was mistaken for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doors when I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4. Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big pond between us and you! T MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!! TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very small orange vests to ship to wisconsin: Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo
Re: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
My uncles swear that once upon a time, there were rules, rules of safety, rules of civility, rules of respect of nature but that is has changed. They don't understand uzis to kill deer either. Their take on it is if you need an automatic rifle to kill a deer, hunting just may not be your sport. LOLBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there have been any studies to show that some people carrying guns tend to behave badly just as do other people when they get behind the wheel of a car. I'm on another animal list where a guy forwards news items about hunter bad behavior. There was a case, it may have been in Pennsylvania, when a hunter accidentally shot a pregnant woman standing in front of her cabin in the woods. She consequently lost her baby. The guy was fined and maybe did a few days in jail, but the woman said the worst thing was that he didn't even apologize. I'm just kind of wondering about factors coming into play -like being behind the wheel of a car, carrying a weapon, wearing a uniform, being in a large group, that seem to bring out otherwise inhibited behavior in people.At least the governor of Wisconsin has also said there will be no cat hunting on his watch.Bonnie- Original Message -From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:56 amSubject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! ug. the hunters I know ARE like that. Unfortunately some are members of my extended family. t Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I have to take exception to the description of most hunters being like that. My whole family has hunted over the years (I'm from northern WI) and I don't personally know anyone that foolish. Unfortunately, like with most other areas, the ones that make the news and create the stereotypes are the ones who do things like that. I think most hunters are responsible and follow the laws. I even have 2 game wardens in the family:) I had not heard of the incident at the school bus stop, where was that? tamara stickler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticle moving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doors when I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!! TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very small orange vests to ship to wisconsin: Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. - Do you Ya
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
Thanks, Bonnie. That's a relief (for now anyway). Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE J KALMBACH Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! The bad news is that the advisory vote on the resolution to make cats an unprotected species won, but the good news is that head of the DNR says there will be no cat hunt. The question was passed in a statewide advisory vote by those who attended the annua; Conservation Congress meetings held in each county. The vote was 6,830 in favor and 5,201 opposed to the idea. The results of this vote go to the Natural Resources Board which then recommends changing any laws to the state legislature - but as Scott Hassett, the DNR secretary is adamantly opposed to a cat hunt, this is probably the end of the matter for now. The DNR knows that allowing cats to be hunted would cause a lot of legal problems (e.g. people often can't tell if a cat is a true feral or a stray or a just a barn cat wandering around) that many farmers would close their land to hunters, that tourism would be affected, and with the DNR budget having been slashed, like those of so many state agencies these days, they just want to avoid all the problems and headaches that would ensue. A lot of people are hoping this is a wake-up call to those who let their cats run free and don't spay or neuter. reporting from Wisconsin, Bonnie Kalmbach This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Thanks for the update Bonnie Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Bonnie. That's a relief (for now anyway). Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE JKALMBACHSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:28 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: OT: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!The bad news is that the advisory vote on the resolution to make cats an unprotected species won, but the good news is that head of the DNR says there will be no cat hunt.The question was passed in a statewide advisory vote by those who attended the annua; Conservation Congress meetings held in each county. The vote was 6,830 in favor and 5,201 opposed to the idea. The results of this vote go to the Natural Resources Board which then recommends changing any laws to the state legislature - but as Scott Hassett, the DNR secretary is adamantly opposed to a cat hunt, this is probably the end of the matter for now.The DNR knows that allowing cats to be hunted would cause a lot of legal problems (e.g. people often can't tell if a cat is a true feral or a stray or a just a barn cat wandering around) that many farmers would close their land to hunters, that tourism would be affected, and with the DNR budget having been slashed, like those of so many state agencies these days, they just want to avoid all the problems and headaches that would ensue.A lot of people are hoping this is a wake-up call to those who let their cats run free and don't spay or neuter.reporting from Wisconsin,Bonnie KalmbachThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
It is amazing to me that 12,000 people voted and that almost 7000 voted for this ridiculous proposition! It would be easy to say that this is some sort of Wisconsin fluke but unfortunately there are far too many folks out there who consider all animals as nuisances and fair game for their high powered toys. The only ray of hope is that cats are pretty fast and if we're lucky these lunatics will only end up shooting each other! By the way, does the resolution call for allowing cat hunts everywhere in Wisconsin--rural populated areas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE J KALMBACH Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! The bad news is that the advisory vote on the resolution to make cats an unprotected species won, but the good news is that head of the DNR says there will be no cat hunt. The question was passed in a statewide advisory vote by those who attended the annua; Conservation Congress meetings held in each county. The vote was 6,830 in favor and 5,201 opposed to the idea. The results of this vote go to the Natural Resources Board which then recommends changing any laws to the state legislature - but as Scott Hassett, the DNR secretary is adamantly opposed to a cat hunt, this is probably the end of the matter for now. The DNR knows that allowing cats to be hunted would cause a lot of legal problems (e.g. people often can't tell if a cat is a true feral or a stray or a just a barn cat wandering around) that many farmers would close their land to hunters, that tourism would be affected, and with the DNR budget having been slashed, like those of so many state agencies these days, they just want to avoid all the problems and headaches that would ensue. A lot of people are hoping this is a wake-up call to those who let their cats run free and don't spay or neuter. reporting from Wisconsin, Bonnie Kalmbach
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RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
I do wish we could get a resolution passed to allow the hunters to be hunted too! Every hunter should be required to carry x amount of life insurance (aka death benefits) and they should be fair game if caught hunting out of season, or hunting in a no trespassing area, or hunting endangered species, or... This way (assuming this would be enough of a deterrant), MAYBE they would pay attention to what they do and how they do it. (I do not mean to insult the hunters who follow the rules and use all parts of what they kill - only the idiots who would shoot a cow thinking it was a deer, or the ones who use fireworks to flush out their prey, etc.) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Chris wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:05:35 -0400 From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! It is amazing to me that 12,000 people voted and that almost 7000 voted for this ridiculous proposition! It would be easy to say that this is some sort of Wisconsin fluke but unfortunately there are far too many folks out there who consider all animals as nuisances and fair game for their high powered toys. The only ray of hope is that cats are pretty fast and if we're lucky these lunatics will only end up shooting each other! By the way, does the resolution call for allowing cat hunts everywhere in Wisconsin--rural populated areas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE J KALMBACH Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! The bad news is that the advisory vote on the resolution to make cats an unprotected species won, but the good news is that head of the DNR says there will be no cat hunt. The question was passed in a statewide advisory vote by those who attended the annua; Conservation Congress meetings held in each county. The vote was 6,830 in favor and 5,201 opposed to the idea. The results of this vote go to the Natural Resources Board which then recommends changing any laws to the state legislature - but as Scott Hassett, the DNR secretary is adamantly opposed to a cat hunt, this is probably the end of the matter for now. The DNR knows that allowing cats to be hunted would cause a lot of legal problems (e.g. people often can't tell if a cat is a true feral or a stray or a just a barn cat wandering around) that many farmers would close their land to hunters, that tourism would be affected, and with the DNR budget having been slashed, like those of so many state agencies these days, they just want to avoid all the problems and headaches that would ensue. A lot of people are hoping this is a wake-up call to those who let their cats run free and don't spay or neuter. reporting from Wisconsin, Bonnie Kalmbach
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LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
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Title: Message What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Laughing My A** Off "MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
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Title: Message Ah. Right! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:50 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! Laughing My A** Off "MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticlemoving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doorswhen I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
I have to take exception to the description of most hunters being like that. My whole family has hunted over the years (I'm from northern WI) and I don't personally know anyone that foolish. Unfortunately, like with most other areas, the ones that make the news and create the stereotypes are the ones who do things like that. I think most hunters are responsible and follow the laws. I even have 2 game wardens in the family:) I had not heard of the incident at the school bus stop, where was that?tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticlemoving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doorswhen I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
OT: : RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
There are laws that do not allow the discharge of firearms near human dwellings, but accidents happen all the time. One woman at the hearings said that feral cats near her rural home are so fast that she thinks many would be merely wounded by hunting and suffer a lingering death. Bonnie - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:05 am Subject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! It is amazing to me that 12,000 people voted and that almost 7000 voted for this ridiculous proposition! It would be easy to say that this is some sort of Wisconsin fluke but unfortunately there are far too many folks out there who consider all animals as nuisances and fair game for their high poweredtoys. The only ray of hope is that cats are pretty fast and if we're lucky these lunatics will only end up shooting each other! By the way, does the resolution call for allowing cat hunts everywhere in Wisconsin--rural populated areas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE J KALMBACHSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! The bad news is that the advisory vote on the resolution to make cats an unprotected species won, but the good news is that head of the DNR says there will be no cat hunt. The question was passed in a statewide advisory vote by those who attended the annua; Conservation Congress meetings held in each county. The vote was 6,830 in favor and 5,201 opposed to the idea. The results of this vote go to the Natural Resources Board which then recommends changing any laws to the state legislature - but as Scott Hassett, the DNR secretary is adamantly opposed to a cat hunt, this is probably the end of the matter for now. The DNR knows that allowing cats to be hunted would cause a lot of legal problems (e.g. people often can't tell if a cat is a true feral or a stray or a just a barn cat wandering around) that many farmers would close their land to hunters, that tourism would be affected, and with the DNR budget having been slashed, like those of so many state agencies these days, they just want to avoid all the problems and headaches that would ensue. A lot of people are hoping this is a wake-up call to those who let their cats run free and don't spay or neuter. reporting from Wisconsin, Bonnie Kalmbach
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
Title: Message That's funny Tamara--actually it was "LMAO" that I meant I didn't get (which Barb then explained), but it now turns out I misunderstoood the orange vest reference --I thought it meant bullet-proof vests. Sounds like everyone in hunting country should be wearing bullet-proof vests! And, looking at the police blotter pages in the newspapers (per a masochistic tendency I have to scare the living daylights out of myself), probably not a bad idea here in Chicago either (I hopped over the pond to your fair country a few years back). Going back to the McKillip "animal hospital" email i sent earlier, all ideas welcome on putting them out of business. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:17 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticlemoving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doorswhen I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
Re: the McKillip horror. I wish I KNEW some good advice for you. I volunteered at a "nonprofit" called Defenders of Animal Rights, Inc. ...also called "Adopt A Pet" that was, at least in the early 90s just aweful, money-grubbing, organization. The owner would destroy dogs and cats while at the same time alluding to being "no kill" shelter. Jim Kovac (owner) would clear the kennels near holidays so he wouldn't have to come in. Cats kittens were sold claiming they had been tested for FeLV FIV when in fact they had NOT...infecting several households (FIV)by the way. Animals were NOT destroyed carefully or always humanly, but when we went to the law with PROOF and our affidavits, testimony etc...we were basically told, as long as the animal died then they really didn't have a problem with HOW it was put down. So we picketted for a year and then stepped off. They are prob. STILL bilking old people out of their wills with the promises to "take care" of any pets left behind.but hey, the shelter LOOKS beautiful, clean and never full so the general public thinks they are doing a great job. If you figure out HOW to shut down McKillip, please let me know. (although the video WAS the best idea...that way even if the authorities don't help, you can give it to the news media.we did that with photos of the abuses at DAR, and put a small crimp in their donations...at least for a while)."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's funny Tamara--actually it was "LMAO" that I meant I didn't get (which Barb then explained), but it now turns out I misunderstoood the orange vest reference --I thought it meant bullet-proof vests. Sounds like everyone in hunting country should be wearing bullet-proof vests! And, looking at the police blotter pages in the newspapers (per a masochistic tendency I have to scare the living daylights out of myself), probably not a bad idea here in Chicago either (I hopped over the pond to your fair country a few years back). Going back to the McKillip "animal hospital" email i sent earlier, all ideas welcome on putting them out of business. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:17 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! Nah, you're not a "dumb Brit" your just too intellectual to understand it. In the states, hunters often wear orange vests so as not to shoot each other. You see, the hunter is a often a beer guzzling good ol' boy who after consuming enough alcohol to kill a rhino will wander into the woods...or any tree laden area with a loaded weapon and shoot at anything that movescarsdomestic pets...the occasional tv screen as seen from the window of a family roomeach other. The vests are supposed to be orange flags, as it were to alert them that perhaps the verticlemoving figure they are lining up in their sites...just might NOT be a deer. Doesn't always work tho... In the states, hunters have been aquitted of killing: just for example: a mother walking her kids to the bus stopshe was wearing a brown coat, white hat and white gloves...the hunter thought the white hat and gloves were the rear end of a deer and plugged her in the forehead infront of a crowd of elementry school children waiting for the bus. It was ruled that because of what she was wearing...the shoot could be deemed justified and the charges were dropped. My parents' 15lb poodle was "mistaken" for a deer, and one idiot even shot at me through the sliding glass doorswhen I was 12 - but it was my fault you see, I was sitting in my family room watching tv...and...my hair's brown...so it was an honest mistake...luckily he missed me by 1/4". Oh and did I mention that some hunters start as young as 8 9 years old. Be thankful for that big "pond" between us and you! T"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does that mean (I'm a dumb Brit) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news! LMAO!!TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: getting everyone together to sew hundreds of thousands very smallorange vests to ship to wisconsin:Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message c
