Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
I wouldn't worry too much if he's not eating until 2-3 days. When we first get feral cats, they either eat like there's no tomorrow, or they don't eat at all. By day two, I start fussing with different foods.they never go beyond that time. Might it help to keep him in a large dog crate? Then he will appreciate being out of it and maybe not try so hard to get outside. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house. Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky Fyodor Dostoyevsky From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken Beef flavors) Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie, Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is. I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too. thanks for all your help. Shannon --- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote: From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite. Cypro has many uses. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic, and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated I wondered why Cypro was
Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
I agree crating the kitty would be a good idea so he does appreciate being out. I have feral and semi cats on my property when needed I will trap them and thengo into huge dog crates or wire cages until they are better. This certainly makes the process easier and better all around. (They are all spayed/neutered of course) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outsideFrom: Natalie at...@optonline.netDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:02 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI wouldn't worry too much if he's not eating until 2-3 days. When we first get feral cats, they either eat like there's no tomorrow, or they don't eat at all. By day two, I start fussing with different foods.they never go beyond that time. Might it help to keep him in a large dog crate? Then he will appreciate being out of it and maybe not try so hard to get outside.-Original Message-From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of EmeraldkitteeSent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:40 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outsideThanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.comSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PMI generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house."Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky; Fyodor DostoyevskyFrom: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.orgSent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againWhen I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken Beef flavors)Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth.TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescueDedicated to the welfare of animals.Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againFrom: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.comDate: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie,Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is. I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too. thanks for all your help.Shannon--- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote:From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating againTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AMCypro is also used to enchance their appetite.Cypro has many uses.TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE
Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
Can you fix an enclosure for him outside? He could spend some time out there then come in? On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote: Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house. Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky Fyodor Dostoyevsky From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken Beef flavors) Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie, Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is. I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too. thanks for all your help. Shannon --- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote: From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite. Cypro has many uses. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic, and if he doesn't have an infection, but is merely upset and agitated I wondered why Cypro was suggested?? Lorrie On 12-26, Emeraldkittee wrote: after a good morning yesterday, now Whimsy is refusing to eat again.? Tuna, sardines, treats, nothing - have to try KFC today.? He is having bursts of playing alot, wants to cuddle, then gets pissed off and kicks litter out of his box, paces around crying and begging to go outside.? He is depressed and angry.? I just can't wrap my head around letting him out in all that snow and cold - after we made such
Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
we are talking about that now - we were planning on it in the spring, but it's 6 below zero today, so we have to figure it out now and what is doable in this weather. (and how not to upset him when building it) --- On Mon, 12/27/10, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 6:54 PM Can you fix an enclosure for him outside? He could spend some time out there then come in? On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote: Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house. Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky Fyodor Dostoyevsky From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken Beef flavors) Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie, Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is. I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too. thanks for all your help. Shannon --- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote: From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite. Cypro has many uses. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 8:35 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Shannon, I don't remember all the details about Whimsy, but it sounds like he may need Prozac rather than Cypro. Cypro is an antibiotic, and if he doesn't have an infection
Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
I would not just let him go...he may be trying to find a place to hide and then you will never find him. I like the enclosure idea. Even if you could take him outside in a carrier... Thoughts and prayers with you. Such a tough thing when they won't eat. Did the vet suggest an anti nausea pill? Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside Can you fix an enclosure for him outside? He could spend some time out there then come in? On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote: Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house. Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky Fyodor Dostoyevsky From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken Beef flavors) Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie, Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly sensitive this boy is. I did pick up Rescue Remedy so I'm giving that a try with him too. thanks for all your help. Shannon --- On Sun, 12/26/10, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org wrote: From: ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 11:14 AM Cypro is also used to enchance their appetite. Cypro has many uses. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside
Believe it or not, there are baby carriages for cats and dogs. Ebony and Mitu had a 12x6x 6 foot tall dog kennel converted to a katt screened in porch. There was a piece of ductwork that went in the bathroom window. They went through a pet door into the ductwork then into the kennel (with a topper and ramp and...) They loved it. I had a 10X10x6 kennel that Dixie and I went to a lot..not enough but a lot. room for a chair and space for a cat to remember being outside. Neither was very expensive. On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Laurieskatz wrote: I would not just let him go...he may be trying to find a place to hide and then you will never find him. I like the enclosure idea. Even if you could take him outside in a carrier... Thoughts and prayers with you. Such a tough thing when they won't eat. Did the vet suggest an anti nausea pill? Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] all Whimsy wants is to go outside Can you fix an enclosure for him outside? He could spend some time out there then come in? On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Emeraldkittee wrote: Thanks, Laurie - I couldn't pill him, so have to try this. he's hiding and acting very feral again, cringes and runs when I come near him. All he wants is to go outside, he perks up at the smell of air. this is against my better judgement, but he's so depressed and will die unless I get food down him. Every time I 'try' something, ie, pills, etc, he looks at me like I'm trying to kill him. I know if he went out he'd feel better, but it's against everything we tried to do to help him. --- On Sun, 12/26/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 26, 2010, 9:33 PM I generally crush a pill (not necessarily this one) and mix with a tiny bit of water and syringe it – total of ½ cc. Syringing is easier than pilling at my house. Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky Fyodor Dostoyevsky From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of ter...@tazzys.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again When I use Cypro I use pill pockets if I can't get them to take it by inserting it with my fingers. (Chicken Beef flavors) Most will take it this way or you can mixed it in a little food and put it in his mouth. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Whimsy not eating again From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:05 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org hi Sharyl, Lorrie, and Terrie, Yes, I meant Cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulent. I did pick it up, but have not given to him yet. I have it as a last resort. He might not be pillable. I would probably try some pepcid first (to the point about whether he could be nauseated). He turned his nose up at the KFC, but I did get him to eat 3/4 of a can of warmed chicken baby food just now. Also he had 3 temptation treats. He's still scratching at the door, so my instinct is telling me that this is an emotional distress first (obviously creating physical ones now). He seems to have forgotten how much trouble he had in deep snow, how he would get icicles on his fur, then it would get so matted, it fell out, leaving giant sores and bald spots. you all are so helpful, because I know you understand. It kills me to think the vet visit set him off; just because I was trying to give him the best care. Now I know how highly
