Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
thanks so much for the replies..My Lil Rascal made it home without the use of oxygen...His breathing was much better and now today (Monday) we are going to get him on the correct meds..I hope...He has hyperthyroidism so that doesn't help matters.. Anyway, I had a friend that had an oxygen tank and she brought it just in case..My vet said forme to just cover the carrier with towels so the air flow wouldn't be completly cut off and put the hose thru the side with some ice in a bowl for humidity and turn it on a low setting 1 or 1.5 just in case...I do think if I need to, I can enclose a carrier at home if another emergency arises with his breathing..at least to do a breathing treatment or whatever he might need in a crunch.. When we got home though, he was very dehydrated as I think they must have took the fluids off too fast and didn't get enough back fast enough so he stayed at the water bowl all night and it was awful...I called my reg vet Sunday morning and took him in for 250 SQ fluids, as his temp was subnormal...then he stayed all afternoon on a heating pad and had a little O2 as well..he received another 250 fluids that afternoon and then I brought him home...He used the box then went on to pig out...I was so happy that he felt good enough to eat...I have seen him eat several times since..and drinking but not to the extent of hanging his head over the bowl as he did when we got home...anyway...My vet said they should have supplemented him with SQ fluids even though he had an IV, but they didn't and didn't even give him any potassium..We have done all of that now and hopefully can give him some quality time at home..He is Bandy's buddy..and Bandy has been with him since I got him home.. Lil Rascal is 15 (Oct. 31 will be 16) and never been sick in his life..So this is all very traumatic for him..Thanks again for all of your info.. Head butts to all our wonderful fur babies! Kerry, Bandy, Lil Rascal and the rest of the crew Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
Kerry, I hope Rascal continues to improve. And Bandy as well. You must be going crazy with 2 sick at the same time. It's so hard when just one is sick! tonyaKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks so much for the replies..My Lil Rascal made it home without the use of oxygen...His breathing was much better and now today (Monday) we are going to get him on the correct meds..I hope...He has hyperthyroidism so that doesn't help matters.. Anyway, I had a friend that had an oxygen tank and she brought it just in case..My vet said forme to just cover the carrier with towels so the air flow wouldn't be completly cut off and put the hose thru the side with some ice in a bowl for humidity and turn it on a low setting 1 or 1.5 just in case...I do think if I need to, I can enclose a carrier at home if another emergency arises with his breathing..at least to do a breathing treatment or whatever he might need in a crunch.. When we got home though, he was very dehydrated as I think they must have took the fluids off too fast and didn't get enough back fast enough so he stayed at the water bowl all night and it was awful...I called my reg vet Sunday morning and took him in for 250 SQ fluids, as his temp was subnormal...then he stayed all afternoon on a heating pad and had a little O2 as well..he received another 250 fluids that afternoon and then I brought him home...He used the box then went on to pig out...I was so happy that he felt good enough to eat...I have seen him eat several times since..and drinking but not to the extent of hanging his head over the bowl as he did when we got home...anyway...My vet said they should have supplemented him with SQ fluids even though he had an IV, but they didn't and didn't even give him any potassium..We have done all of that now and hopefully can give him some quality time at home..He is Bandy's buddy..and Bandy has been with him since I got him home.. Lil Rascal is 15 (Oct. 31 will be 16) and never been sick in his life..So this is all very traumatic for him..Thanks again for all of your info.. Head butts to all our wonderful fur babies! Kerry, Bandy, Lil Rascal and the rest of the crew Yahoo! for GoodClick here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
Try adding Willard Water to his waterit will help hydrate him, I use it with filtered water for my girls. The filtered water will leave a scum or minerals in the bowl in a couple of days (they don't like it changed daily and get about a gallon at a change--they won't change so I adapt). With the Willard Water it stays clear and clean and the glass bowls have no residue. WW is available at a lot of heath food places and on the internet, I thought people were nuts who recommended it to me--water is water---they are not nuts. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank? Kerry, I hope Rascal continues to improve. And Bandy as well. You must be going crazy with 2 sick at the same time. It's so hard when just one is sick! tonyaKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks so much for the replies..My Lil Rascal made it home without the use of oxygen...His breathing was much better and now today (Monday) we are going to get him on the correct meds..I hope...He has hyperthyroidism so that doesn't help matters.. Anyway, I had a friend that had an oxygen tank and she brought it just in case..My vet said forme to just cover the carrier with towels so the air flow wouldn't be completly cut off and put the hose thru the side with some ice in a bowl for humidity and turn it on a low setting 1 or 1.5 just in case...I do think if I need to, I can enclose a carrier at home if another emergency arises with his breathing..at least to do a breathing treatment or whatever he might need in a crunch.. When we got home though, he was very dehydrated as I think they must have took the fluids off too fast and didn't get enough back fast enough so he stayed at the water bowl all night and it was awful...I called my reg vet Sunday morning and took him in for 250 SQ fluids, as his temp was subnormal...then he stayed all afternoon on a heating pad and had a little O2 as well..he received another 250 fluids that afternoon and then I brought him home...He used the box then went on to pig out...I was so happy that he felt good enough to eat...I have seen him eat several times since..and drinking but not to the extent of hanging his head over the bowl as he did when we got home...anyway...My vet said they should have supplemented him with SQ fluids even though he had an IV, but they didn't and didn't even give him any potassium..We have done all of that now and hopefully can give him some quality time at home..He is Bandy's buddy..and Bandy has been with him since I got him home.. Lil Rascal is 15 (Oct. 31 will be 16) and never been sick in his life..So this is all very traumatic for him..Thanks again for all of your info.. Head butts to all our wonderful fur babies! Kerry, Bandy, Lil Rascal and the rest of the crew Yahoo! for GoodClick here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
PS Kitty is hyperthyroid and it doesn't help anything. Her alternative vet has her on MacroForce (when I can get this head strong calico to take it) to boost the immune system and Intrasound. Kitty has tumors in her lungs--that doesn't help anything either. Try the Willard Water and the others if they meet your needs and gut feelings for what is best for your little friends. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank? Kerry, I hope Rascal continues to improve. And Bandy as well. You must be going crazy with 2 sick at the same time. It's so hard when just one is sick! tonyaKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks so much for the replies..My Lil Rascal made it home without the use of oxygen...His breathing was much better and now today (Monday) we are going to get him on the correct meds..I hope...He has hyperthyroidism so that doesn't help matters.. Anyway, I had a friend that had an oxygen tank and she brought it just in case..My vet said forme to just cover the carrier with towels so the air flow wouldn't be completly cut off and put the hose thru the side with some ice in a bowl for humidity and turn it on a low setting 1 or 1.5 just in case...I do think if I need to, I can enclose a carrier at home if another emergency arises with his breathing..at least to do a breathing treatment or whatever he might need in a crunch.. When we got home though, he was very dehydrated as I think they must have took the fluids off too fast and didn't get enough back fast enough so he stayed at the water bowl all night and it was awful...I called my reg vet Sunday morning and took him in for 250 SQ fluids, as his temp was subnormal...then he stayed all afternoon on a heating pad and had a little O2 as well..he received another 250 fluids that afternoon and then I brought him home...He used the box then went on to pig out...I was so happy that he felt good enough to eat...I have seen him eat several times since..and drinking but not to the extent of hanging his head over the bowl as he did when we got home...anyway...My vet said they should have supplemented him with SQ fluids even though he had an IV, but they didn't and didn't even give him any potassium..We have done all of that now and hopefully can give him some quality time at home..He is Bandy's buddy..and Bandy has been with him since I got him home.. Lil Rascal is 15 (Oct. 31 will be 16) and never been sick in his life..So this is all very traumatic for him..Thanks again for all of your info.. Head butts to all our wonderful fur babies! Kerry, Bandy, Lil Rascal and the rest of the crew Yahoo! for GoodClick here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
Oops - sorry, I haven't been keeping up. I have the carrier now, and the contact info of the couple who rigged it up (she was on the board of the humane society, he's an engineer). If you're near me, you're welcome to it, and I'll drive it part way - if not email/call them and they can describe how to rig it up! One vet tech at the emergency clinic thought I was crazy, said it was a fire hazard. I thought for a moment, and said, you're wrong, it's used for people in their homes all the time. Why not for animals? Gloria Little Rock, Arkansas On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Nina wrote: I can't remember who it was, but someone rigged a carrier so that there was very little ventilation and funneled the oxygen into it with the cat inside. Nothing was inserted into their nose as far as I can remember. I've looked for the old email and can't find it. I just went to search the archives and I did find this from Gloria, (sorry Gloria, I should have known it was you, TC, or Patti!). Anyway here's what Gloria wrote about making her own oxygen cage: I have a carrier that was converted into an oxygen cage/carrier by a friend's husband - he's an engineering type. I got it from her, just in case, before my Cala died. If you're ever interested, I'll be glad to share the carrier (I'm in Arkansas). My friends used it for her kitty, and then she loaned the carrier to me. The problem is getting a vet to prescribe the O2 tank that connects to the carrier -they think you're crazy... and of course you'd need to be home with him. Think the O2 tanks are rented on a monthly fee? People have O2 at home all the time - too bad it's not done more for cats and dogs that want to be home. Gloria
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
Don't take O2 too litely...It is a fire hazard..something of the same order of putting gasoline in your car We do that every day too...Don't smoke around it...but hopefully you aren't anyway Don't leave the tent closed while the animal isn't in it to use the O2...If the concentration of O2 gets very high it can be much more dangerous than it is at a lower mixture which is what is intended to do..just add a small amount to the air...not make it pure O2...and don't seal the carrier too tite..just so the air doesn't breeze through and it should be perfectly safe... Tad Gloria Lane wrote: Oops - sorry, I haven't been keeping up. I have the carrier now, and the contact info of the couple who rigged it up (she was on the board of the humane society, he's an engineer). If you're near me, you're welcome to it, and I'll drive it part way - if not email/call them and they can describe how to rig it up! One vet tech at the emergency clinic thought I was crazy, said it was a fire hazard. I thought for a moment, and said, you're wrong, it's used for people in their homes all the time. Why not for animals? Gloria Little Rock, Arkansas On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Nina wrote: I can't remember who it was, but someone rigged a carrier so that there was very little ventilation and funneled the oxygen into it with the cat inside. Nothing was inserted into their nose as far as I can remember. I've looked for the old email and can't find it. I just went to search the archives and I did find this from Gloria, (sorry Gloria, I should have known it was you, TC, or Patti!). Anyway here's what Gloria wrote about making her own oxygen cage: I have a carrier that was converted into an oxygen cage/carrier by a friend's husband - he's an engineering type. I got it from her, just in case, before my Cala died. If you're ever interested, I'll be glad to share the carrier (I'm in Arkansas). My friends used it for her kitty, and then she loaned the carrier to me. The problem is getting a vet to prescribe the O2 tank that connects to the carrier -they think you're crazy... and of course you'd need to be home with him. Think the O2 tanks are rented on a monthly fee? People have O2 at home all the time - too bad it's not done more for cats and dogs that want to be home. Gloria
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
Kerry, I don't remember how the at home oxygen tank was done. I hope someone posts for you. Best wishes for all of you. tonyaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Kerry, I'm so sorry to hear about Rascal's troubles! That's so sweet the way he and Bandy are such good buddies. Someone on this list posted once about a "home made" oxygen cage. I can't remember who it was, maybe Patti? I'm hoping they will see this and post about how they fixed one up. Grace and I are very pleased to hear that she has a new namesake. Prayers for Rascal, Bandy, you and all of yours.Ninakerry wrote: Hi, Well, my luck when one gets sick, it seems to break out everywhere else too.. I had to rush my 15 yr old Little Rascal to the vet here at 5:30 today in respiratory distress...so then after we sort of got him stable by 8pm, I took him to the 24 hr emergency clinic where he could stay in the icu oxygen cage...He was better when the meds kicked in...He is FeLV-- and FIV-- but she found a huge mass in his abdomen probably like his grandmothers...lymphoma.. So I told her I don't want to do any more diag. on him as he is too old to go thru surgery and has hyperthyroidism to boot.. I want to make him as comfortable as I can for as long as I can...He is Bandy's buddy...When Bandy's temp goes way up, he will always go get in the box with Rascal...It is like he hides behind him and Rascal always rubs all over Bandy...so they are big buds.. If he responds ok to this, then I will go get him either Fri or Sat..I think that was the plan.. I hope Grace is feeling better today.. I have named a new kitty that i have Grace...I couldn't think of what to name her and when you told me about Grace..it seemed to fit this kitty.. We will keep you in our prayers. Kerry and Bandy
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
Oh Kerry, I'm so sorry to hear about Rascal's troubles! That's so sweet the way he and Bandy are such good buddies. Someone on this list posted once about a home made oxygen cage. I can't remember who it was, maybe Patti? I'm hoping they will see this and post about how they fixed one up. Grace and I are very pleased to hear that she has a new namesake. Prayers for Rascal, Bandy, you and all of yours. Nina kerry wrote: Hi, Well, my luck when one gets sick, it seems to break out everywhere else too.. I had to rush my 15 yr old Little Rascal to the vet here at 5:30 today in respiratory distress...so then after we sort of got him stable by 8pm, I took him to the 24 hr emergency clinic where he could stay in the icu oxygen cage...He was better when the meds kicked in...He is FeLV-- and FIV-- but she found a huge mass in his abdomen probably like his grandmothers...lymphoma.. So I told her I don't want to do any more diag. on him as he is too old to go thru surgery and has hyperthyroidism to boot.. I want to make him as comfortable as I can for as long as I can...He is Bandy's buddy...When Bandy's temp goes way up, he will always go get in the box with Rascal...It is like he hides behind him and Rascal always rubs all over Bandy...so they are big buds.. If he responds ok to this, then I will go get him either Fri or Sat..I think that was the plan.. I hope Grace is feeling better today.. I have named a new kitty that i have Grace...I couldn't think of what to name her and when you told me about Grace..it seemed to fit this kitty.. We will keep you in our prayers. Kerry and Bandy
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
My dog Fern was on an at-home oxygen tank for her last week (she had lung cancer). She did not like it very much and had to get mild tranquilizers to deal with it, but it made her breathe much much easier.The way it worked was that the oncologist put a nasal oxygen tubein her nose (one shallow stitch) and we then rented an oxygen tank and long line from a human medical supplies office, and the tube hooked right in to the line. I do not know if they do this with cats, but even with Fern they had only done it one other time for a dog. Let us know what happens. Michelle In a message dated 9/9/2005 11:33:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kerry wrote:
Re: Another emergency!! - at home oxygen tank?
I can't remember who it was, but someone rigged a carrier so that there was very little ventilation and funneled the oxygen into it with the cat inside. Nothing was inserted into their nose as far as I can remember. I've looked for the old email and can't find it. I just went to search the archives and I did find this from Gloria, (sorry Gloria, I should have known it was you, TC, or Patti!). Anyway here's what Gloria wrote about making her own oxygen cage: I have a carrier that was converted into an oxygen cage/carrier by a friend's husband - he's an engineering type. I got it from her, just in case, before my Cala died. If you're ever interested, I'll be glad to share the carrier (I'm in Arkansas). My friends used it for her kitty, and then she loaned the carrier to me. The problem is getting a vet to prescribe the O2 tank that connects to the carrier -they think you're crazy... and of course you'd need to be home with him. Think the O2 tanks are rented on a monthly fee? People have O2 at home all the time - too bad it's not done more for cats and dogs that want to be home. Gloria
