Re: Great Snake evening excitement
I bought TONS of peroxide and soaked my hand as often as I could in hot water and peroxide. That seemed to help. t Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No kidding. Now is the time for a servant! Where are they when we NEED them? Good luck finding the rabies certificate. After being bitten one of my vet tech friends ended up in the hospital for two weeks mainlining antibiotics and another friend got well at home but had really weird hallucinations. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 22, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Kelly L wrote: At 11:20 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: the snake is just fine and happily on his way to freedom,,,the cats are all fine and my arm is a mess, Can/t bend my writs swollen and still bleeding, i did stat Augmentun,,the right antibiotic, but I only have enough for 2 days ( from my last bite..lol) so i will probably head to the doc tomorrow... I need to scrounge around for a rabies certificate from one of my cats first, they do not go free so i am not worried, but do not want snoops around here, Kelly Poor little scared guy! How's your hand/arm? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
I hope someone has told you NOT to blame this on a stray. Blame it on the cat you have the updated rabies on. As long as you have the updated rabies it should be ok. (even if that's not the cat who bit you!) t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't tell them everything...maybe that you were reaching for a cat in an alley or something like that. Try not to implicate any of your cats because most hospitals have to report it and most insurances will question your claims. I know my health insurance called to see who the cat belonged to etc. She quite literally was a feral with no owner and no known hang out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:51 AM Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement At 11:20 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: the snake is just fine and happily on his way to freedom,,,the cats are all fine and my arm is a mess, Can/t bend my writs swollen and still bleeding, i did stat Augmentun,,the right antibiotic, but I only have enough for 2 days ( from my last bite..lol) so i will probably head to the doc tomorrow... I need to scrounge around for a rabies certificate from one of my cats first, they do not go free so i am not worried, but do not want snoops around here, Kelly Poor little scared guy! How's your hand/arm? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
At 03:40 AM 5/31/2007, you wrote: They never even asked. Just gave me 3 refills of Augmentin,,as I have done this and they know I did rescue. it was not a stray...I have several cats with rabies cert. that do get blamed frequently LOLperoxide does not help if it becomed infected with pasturella bact...Augmentin is treatment of choice My arm is good,,cat is good and snake is fime!! I hope someone has told you NOT to blame this on a stray. Blame it on the cat you have the updated rabies on. As long as you have the updated rabies it should be ok. (even if that's not the cat who bit you!) t Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't tell them everything...maybe that you were reaching for a cat in an alley or something like that. Try not to implicate any of your cats because most hospitals have to report it and most insurances will question your claims. I know my health insurance called to see who the cat belonged to etc. She quite literally was a feral with no owner and no known hang out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:51 AM Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement At 11:20 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: the snake is just fine and happily on his way to freedom,,,the cats are all fine and my arm is a mess, Can/t bend my writs swollen and still bleeding, i did stat Augmentun,,the right antibiotic, but I only have enough for 2 days ( from my last bite..lol) so i will probably head to the doc tomorrow... I need to scrounge around for a rabies certificate from one of my cats first, they do not go free so i am not worried, but do not want snoops around here, Kelly Poor little scared guy! How's your hand/arm? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM
RE: Great Snake evening excitement
My mother had Cdiff for a while, and it was pure misery. You have my sympathies. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Diane, How was it cured? How long did she have it? Was she on a special diet? I'd really like to hear more. Every bit of information is helpful. It is just an awful bug. Changes one's life. Pam Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: My mother had Cdiff for a while, and it was pure misery. You have my sympathies. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender
RE: Great Snake evening excitement
She actually picked it up in a nursing home, and it lasted for months as I remember. I think her poor bowels were already compromised by another bug she had when she went in there. I don't think she was on any specific diet, just nursing home food (in fact at one point she mentioned getting sauerkraut as a side dish, which I thought wasill-advised). I don't remember what meds she was getting either, sorry. It was all part of a very sad spiral in her health and her life, and I guess I've sorta blocked the details. ;-) Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement Diane, How was it cured? How long did she have it? Was she on a special diet? I'd really like to hear more. Every bit of information is helpful. It is just an awful bug. Changes one's life. Pam Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote: My mother had Cdiff for a while, and it was pure misery. You have my sympathies. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Poor little scared guy! How's your hand/arm? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Don't tell them everything...maybe that you were reaching for a cat in an alley or something like that. Try not to implicate any of your cats because most hospitals have to report it and most insurances will question your claims. I know my health insurance called to see who the cat belonged to etc. She quite literally was a feral with no owner and no known hang out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:51 AM Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement At 11:20 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: the snake is just fine and happily on his way to freedom,,,the cats are all fine and my arm is a mess, Can/t bend my writs swollen and still bleeding, i did stat Augmentun,,the right antibiotic, but I only have enough for 2 days ( from my last bite..lol) so i will probably head to the doc tomorrow... I need to scrounge around for a rabies certificate from one of my cats first, they do not go free so i am not worried, but do not want snoops around here, Kelly Poor little scared guy! How's your hand/arm? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Can you soak in some hot salt water? It's painful but it really does help. I'm so sorry! Sounds like there is never a dull moment at your house! elizabeth On 5/21/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly
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At 01:14 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: no problem. I have Kaiser and a Rabies certificate,,,been there before...no health claims and i got a tetanus shot with my last years bite. anyone time you claim a stray cat bite you are subject to rabies shots, Kelly Don't tell them everything...maybe that you were reaching for a cat in an alley or something like that. Try not to implicate any of your cats because most hospitals have to report it and most insurances will question your claims. I know my health insurance called to see who the cat belonged to etc. She quite literally was a feral with no owner and no known hang out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:51 AM Subject: Re: Great Snake evening excitement At 11:20 PM 5/21/2007, you wrote: the snake is just fine and happily on his way to freedom,,,the cats are all fine and my arm is a mess, Can/t bend my writs swollen and still bleeding, i did stat Augmentun,,the right antibiotic, but I only have enough for 2 days ( from my last bite..lol) so i will probably head to the doc tomorrow... I need to scrounge around for a rabies certificate from one of my cats first, they do not go free so i am not worried, but do not want snoops around here, Kelly Poor little scared guy! How's your hand/arm? Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 21, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 7:54 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Well, I was chuckling through your story until I got to the part about the cat bite already starting to swell. Anytime a bite is bad enough to send me to the hospital the story I tell is always about a stray, (not feral), just a scared little kitty that I tried to yank by the tail out from under a car. No, I have never seen her before, (I make up an elaborate description, she had a mustache like Hitler, or some such nonsense), and she ran like a bolt after she bit me. I live in CA too and they always suggest a series of rabbies shots and I always refuse them. No one can make you take the treatments, at least no one has ever tried to force them on me. Bruce was the last one to get bit and he refused to go to the doctor when it began to swell. By the time I was ready to knock him unconscious to get him there, (the next day), he needed the injectable Augmentin, (a series of them for several weeks). The doctor kept shaking his head and talking about admitting him to the hospital for iv antibiotics, but he was able to fight off the infection with mega doses of oral and the injectables. You can order Augmentin wo a script from: http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=Augmentinbysearch=okGo.x=9Go.y=6 http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=Augmentinbysearch=okGo.x=9Go.y=6 Be sure and let us know how you are doing. I hope that grateful little garter snake figures out a way to avoid the hawks and you haven't set back your feral's socialization too much. Let's hope that snake lets his friends know that your house is less safe than the bushes. Next time tell your assistant to bring a net with her along with the boots and rake. Nina Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
At 07:00 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Already started the Augmentin last night..it is humorous. the swelling is from soft tissue damage as opposed to infection..I always used to ask my self what I would do if there were a rattle snake challenging my cats. Well I now know,,My cats and the snake do come first, it was a cute little gopher snake, i find frequent garter snakes in the house and just put them in the front bushes away from the cat, I have to laugh at myself as I do finally have a hair appointment at 12 and need to work the ER visit around that...I do have a rabies certificate for another cat so I am cool with that part,. Boy are we women or what. Kelly Well, I was chuckling through your story until I got to the part about the cat bite already starting to swell. Anytime a bite is bad enough to send me to the hospital the story I tell is always about a stray, (not feral), just a scared little kitty that I tried to yank by the tail out from under a car. No, I have never seen her before, (I make up an elaborate description, she had a mustache like Hitler, or some such nonsense), and she ran like a bolt after she bit me. I live in CA too and they always suggest a series of rabbies shots and I always refuse them. No one can make you take the treatments, at least no one has ever tried to force them on me. Bruce was the last one to get bit and he refused to go to the doctor when it began to swell. By the time I was ready to knock him unconscious to get him there, (the next day), he needed the injectable Augmentin, (a series of them for several weeks). The doctor kept shaking his head and talking about admitting him to the hospital for iv antibiotics, but he was able to fight off the infection with mega doses of oral and the injectables. You can order Augmentin wo a script from: http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=Augmentinbysearch=okGo.x=9Go.y=6 http://www.1drugstore-online.com/showprice.asp?name=Augmentinbysearch=okGo.x=9Go.y=6 Be sure and let us know how you are doing. I hope that grateful little garter snake figures out a way to avoid the hawks and you haven't set back your feral's socialization too much. Let's hope that snake lets his friends know that your house is less safe than the bushes. Next time tell your assistant to bring a net with her along with the boots and rake. Nina Kelly L wrote: Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
We are Women alright: Crazy Cat Women! I was talking with Hideyo yesterday about all we do above and beyond. Do you remember the little adopted kitty that went missing from the new adopter's house the first night? Well Hideyo has finally spotted her outside the lady's house where they've been leaving food out. She had to stake the place out and Mattie didn't show up until 1am. When I suggested that perhaps it would be easier for the new mom to fight her sleep and keep watch for Mattie, Hideyo told me that she didn't think the woman would be willing to do that. I said, why not? I certainly would. Hideyo didn't miss a beat when she told me very matter-of-factly, Yes, but you're crazy. This coming from one of the craziest cat ladies I know. It really cracked me up. Nina Kelly L wrote: At 07:00 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Already started the Augmentin last night..it is humorous. the swelling is from soft tissue damage as opposed to infection..I always used to ask my self what I would do if there were a rattle snake challenging my cats. Well I now know,,My cats and the snake do come first, it was a cute little gopher snake, i find frequent garter snakes in the house and just put them in the front bushes away from the cat, I have to laugh at myself as I do finally have a hair appointment at 12 and need to work the ER visit around that...I do have a rabies certificate for another cat so I am cool with that part,. Boy are we women or what. Kelly
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At 07:25 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: I am so glad the kitty has been spotted, Do they have a trap set my 3 days at BestFirneds Healing heart workshop was so needed,,,To sit in a room with 10 other women from the all over the county and know you are no alone,We are not just cat ladies eitherdogs snakes gopher,,sorry i don't do kids!! Have a good day kelly We are Women alright: Crazy Cat Women! I was talking with Hideyo yesterday about all we do above and beyond. Do you remember the little adopted kitty that went missing from the new adopter's house the first night? Well Hideyo has finally spotted her outside the lady's house where they've been leaving food out. She had to stake the place out and Mattie didn't show up until 1am. When I suggested that perhaps it would be easier for the new mom to fight her sleep and keep watch for Mattie, Hideyo told me that she didn't think the woman would be willing to do that. I said, why not? I certainly would. Hideyo didn't miss a beat when she told me very matter-of-factly, Yes, but you're crazy. This coming from one of the craziest cat ladies I know. It really cracked me up. Nina Kelly L wrote: At 07:00 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Already started the Augmentin last night..it is humorous. the swelling is from soft tissue damage as opposed to infection..I always used to ask my self what I would do if there were a rattle snake challenging my cats. Well I now know,,My cats and the snake do come first, it was a cute little gopher snake, i find frequent garter snakes in the house and just put them in the front bushes away from the cat, I have to laugh at myself as I do finally have a hair appointment at 12 and need to work the ER visit around that...I do have a rabies certificate for another cat so I am cool with that part,. Boy are we women or what. Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
LITERALLY! Taylor Scobie Humphrey wrote: Yikers! I could certainly lose a few pounds but what an exceptionally crappy way to do it! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 22, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Pam Norman wrote: I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM --No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
At 02:49 PM 5/22/2007, you wrote: there are a few strains of deadly bacteria in a cats mouth, You do know that Augmentin is almost the same as Clavamox.. I have used it many times and it has reversed severe infections. Vanco is reserved to super bad bugs, kelly I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
Re: Great Snake evening excitement
Believe me, Cdiff is a super bad bug. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 02:49 PM 5/22/2007, you wrote: there are a few strains of deadly bacteria in a cats mouth, You do know that Augmentin is almost the same as Clavamox.. I have used it many times and it has reversed severe infections. Vanco is reserved to super bad bugs, kelly I took Augmentin last year for a cat bite next thing I knew I was deathly ill with Cdiff (clostridium difficile). Lost 30 pounds in 3 months, was on Flagyl for 8 weeks with 2 relapses, went on Vancomycin am still on it 8 months later. I will not take a broad spectrum antibiotic again unless it is direly necessary even then I will be sure to take Vanco with it. And me with 10 cats of my own, a semi-feral colony of 4. I honestly don't know what is worse, an untreated cat bite or Cdiff. Pam Kelly L wrote: At 01:10 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Yup, I am a nurse so I know about cat bites,,,it is the only thing i realy go to the doctor for for treatment and already started antibiotics Kelly Please be very careful with the cat bites. I know you will be but have to say it anyway. I little feral broken a finger (much to the dismay of an entire hand practice at a university here). I had surgery twice. Immediately to repair some damage and later (supposedly) to repair the nail bed. The last surgery was after a very long course of antibiotics. Instead of repairing the nail bed they wound up cleaning out the wound again. Seems like it was very infected with no outer signs of infection. Some of these bugs can get into the bone and fester for months or years. I am not saying this to scare you just to ask that you keep an especially close eye on the situation. Your cats value you much too much to let you spend too much time at a hospital. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Great Snake evening excitement Ok..So I am alone and head into the bedroom to see several cats curiously looking under the dresser. this can mean, a toad, a bird, a gopher or snake,,,I have already removed a few garter snakes from the cats this year,,, i got down on my hand and knees,,,shooing the cats away and heard a very irritated snake under the dresser. i could not tell if it was a gopher snake or a rattle snake,,,So now what,,there are 13 cats in there and i tried to get them out with out scaring them under the dresser,,favorite hiding place,,I did not want to leave as i needed to keep track of the snake, I tossed a few cats in the bathroom,,slammed the door,,,got one into the closet and scared a few into my cat inclosure and locked them out, that left only 4 more, I called Ashley, my cat helper to come give me a hand,,She arrived a few moments later,,,boots,,,rake and pail,,,but i still needed to get one feral out of the room,,,Well I grabbed her by the scuff and was almost out the door but she turned and really got me good, Several very deep bites but I got her out, Well we got the snake out and once in the light it looked more like a poor little scared gopher snake so we took him out to the vineyards to release him,,, I have pictures if anyone wants to see him,,, the moral of the story is ..well there may not be one,,find a snake in your room and go the emergency room with a cat bite!! What is strange is I have a pair of Red Tail hawks nesting in my palm tree and eating on the telephone pole out side my window,,,each day they seem to come home dangling a snake and i was just commenting that all my snakes will disappear,,,hmmm Kelly -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 2:01 PM
