subject:"Re\: OT\: Help \! ringworm in kittens"




Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its 
from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never 
fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the 
vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 

its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when handling 
them.
BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the difference 
in the world.

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









Thanks. These kittens are FeLV negative 
but is it still common? Let me make sure that I understood what you said - is
your kitty with ringworm Felv negative, too? but has URI and interferon helped
her?











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Cats that have had URI often bust out in
ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use
blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in
real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know
what it is though works every time. 





its contagious to humans and to other
animals so careful when handling them.





BTW the interferon on my URI negative
kittens has made all the difference in the world.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

2005-10-31 Thread Nina





Hideyo,
Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to
deal with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send
you my compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know
how to confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?
N

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to
my world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment
and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases
I take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it
is though works every time. 
  its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when
handling them.
  BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the
difference in the world.

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









Really? Why is it such a nightmare? Is it
because its contagious and hard to get rid of? It wont kill them
or make them really sick, will they? Someone told me that I should get a black
light to confirm it.











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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005
11:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens





Hideyo,
Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to deal
with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send you my
compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know how to
confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?
N

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Cats that have had URI often bust
out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system.
I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any
pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a
liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 





its contagious to humans and to other animals so
careful when handling them.





BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has
made all the difference in the world.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Yes,
I do rescue. And any cat or dog that has lowered immune system can bust out 
in ringworm.
Yes its now a practice here that any cat or kitten neg or positive gets 
interferon with URI. I have viral URI going around in all the pounds. And I darn 
near lost a mom with 4 week olds but the interferon and support therapy is 
pulling them through. Try it it works

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Yeah use a black light..that's how you can tell for 
sure.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




No ringworm wont make them any sicker its just a pain to get rid of and it 
could take a couple of months for the hair to grow 
back

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What I am really concerned is that what
caused to have such a lower immune system among my kitties 

Do you use alpha interferon?.. any side
effects on interferon?











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in kittens







Yes,





I do rescue. And any cat or dog that has
lowered immune system can bust out in ringworm.





Yes its now a practice here that any cat
or kitten neg or positive gets interferon with URI. I have viral URI going
around in all the pounds. And I darn near lost a mom with 4 week olds but the
interferon and support therapy is pulling them through. Try it it works

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Some times kittens getting over ringworm dont make adoption for a long time 
cause its unsighly...we just wait till the fur grows completely back

see our 
available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 
817-453-4888

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




The URI and probably stress caused the low immune system. Yes I use Alpha 
he mixes it for adults and then for kittens I have never had any side effects 
with Negatives or positives.
I am positive it is what is making the difference here.
They seem to bounce back faster and better. 
see our 
available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 
817-453-4888

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









I need prescription to get interferon,
right?











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in kittens







The URI and probably stress caused the
low immune system. Yes I use Alpha he mixes it for adults and then for kittens
I have never had any side effects with Negatives or positives.





I am positive it is what is making the
difference here.





They seem to bounce back faster and
better. 



see our
available orphans at:
http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
Karen 817-453-4888

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Where do I get a black light? Do they
have it at Walgreen or something?











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Yeah use a black light..that's how
you can tell for sure.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




I got mine at walmart.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

2005-10-31 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

Did you try the black light method? If you take them into a dark area and shine the black light on it if it glows greenish it is definately ringworm.but be careful sometimes ringworm does not glow green.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hi, I noticed that there are some bald spots and flakey inside of ear on all of my four kittens and the mamas nose as welland I think they are ringworm  though they still have URIs that come and go and cant get rid of (over several weeks now) for some reasons.

Any suggestions on treatment? How worried should I be? Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

2005-10-31 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

My most recent kitten Mystery had ringworm, without my knowledge and I brought her in my house of 10 cats, 1 dog and my sonmy FeLV+ cat is the only one that caught it and of course I did also...it is really bad, I used an antibactial spray three days on and 1 day off for 3 weeks and that helped, with me I took Difulcan and used rubbing alcohol on the wounds, it was not fun ;-([EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 
its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when handling them.
BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the difference in the world. Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




I sure hope you don't have the RW :( This is 
not fun but I knew we'd have it eventually since I do a little rescue and have a 
herd of cats. Little Ms Purrsy brought it with her and was diagnosed 
early-mid August ... I was so very careful handling her, isolated her 
immediately in her condo and it still moved into the big house and what a 
hassle. The cats are on Griseofulvin (except the two FIV+ who take 
Itraconazole) and topical Lotrimin liquid. I can't say that either 
works. Some cats healed, some still broke out but very slow improvement, 
some with new outbreaks after being on the oral for over three weeks. 
Frustrating. Reading all the cleaning required, sorry, I don't 
have time enough in my day to do all of what should be done, not even 
close,and I am retired.Maybe we will have it forever. 
.Maybe $500 already. And the UV light ... not all RW will 
flouresce even with the doc's expensive Wood light. Some RWshows up 
as fur loss, some with crud, some sores, some itch others do not. How many 
times can I use the word frustrating? May I add that I do not 
regret having my cats nor taking this little rescue who brought the RW even if 
we never get rid of it. If no one has already given it, there is a RW 
yahoo group and I'll fwd it. There is a gel suggested that is supposed to 
work wonderful and I am about to order some of it.

Del

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:30 
  PM
  Subject: RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  
  
  Really? Why is 
  it such a nightmare? Is it because its contagious and hard to get rid 
  of? It wont kill them or make them really sick, will they? 
  Someone told me that I should get a black light to confirm 
  it.
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:28 
  AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  
  Hideyo,Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have 
  ringworm. I've never had to deal with it myself, but it sounds like a 
  real nightmare! I'll send you my compiled notes on treatment for it 
  off-list. Does anyone know how to confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty 
  to the vet?N[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
  Cats that have had URI often bust 
  out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system. 
  I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any 
  pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a 
  liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 
  
  
  its contagious to humans and to 
  other animals so careful when handling 
them.
  
  BTW the interferon on my URI 
  negative kittens has made all the difference in the world.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it 
at any pharmacy. 
like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for me. 5.00 
a jar

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Nina - how about posting your compiled notes on 
treatment on this list ... with so many different strains of RW what doesn't 
work on one may work on another. 

Del 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nina 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:27 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  Hideyo,Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have 
  ringworm. I've never had to deal with it myself, but it sounds like a 
  real nightmare! I'll send you my compiled notes on treatment for it 
  off-list. Does anyone know how to confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty 
  to the vet?N[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my 
world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment 
and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I 
take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is 
though works every time. 
its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when handling 
them.
BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the 
difference in the world.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




How often do you useBlue Star ointmenton the area? Twice 
a day? 

Del

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  From: 
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  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:47 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  
  Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it 
  at any pharmacy. 
  like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for me. 
  5.00 a jar

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




once per day.never seen it fail

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

Thanks, Nina.

- Original Message -
From:
Nina

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:09
PM
Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in
kittens
It's pretty long and not organized in any fashion. I
can't vouch for any of it, but when I see a post that seems interesting I'll
paste it into a document file. (You'll notice Karen's contribution from
today about Blue Star ointment). I can't attach docs to send to the
list, but I'll try and cut and past the whole thing for you. Here
goes:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Karen
817-453-4888 Blue Star
ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it at any
pharmacy.like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for
me. 5.00 a jar 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looking up
ringworm I found this, from what this say's it doesn't appear that it is an
airborne contagent, although it is highly contagious (I have had it on a cat
before and I was told to use regular athletes foot creme and for us it did
work, I got a little spot on me and the creme cleared it up on the cat and
myself, this was many years ago, so don't know if that is still the treatment
for it. This cat only had one small spot so we never had a major
problem.):

People can get Ringworm from: 1) direct skin-to-skin
contact with an infected person or pet, 2) indirect contact with an object
or surface that an infected person or pet has touched, or 3) rarely, by
contact with soil.
Ringworm can be treated with fungus-killing medicine.
To prevent Ringworm, 1) make sure all infected persons
and pets get appropriate treatment, 2) avoid contact with infected persons
and pets, 3) do not share personal items, and 4) keep common-use areas
clean.
How do
people get Ringworm?
Ringworm is spread by either direct or
indirect contact. People can get Ringworm by direct
skin-to-skin contact with an infected person or pet.
People can also get Ringworm indirectly by contact with objects or
surfaces that an infected person or pet has touched, such as hats, combs,
brushes, bed linens, stuffed animals, telephones, gym mats, and shower
stalls. In rare cases
Ringworm can be spread by contact with soil.
http://www.astdhpphe.org/infect/ringworm.htmlAnother
good site that seems to confirm this:http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/ringworm.html!--[if
!supportLineBreakNewLine]--
2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only good thing is that it was a very mild
case and was easily treated with over the counter creams. But I use the
program pill and protein Thymic A for faster results.
3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tea
Tree Oil:If you want a natural treatment, tea tree oil, which you can get in any health food store, is an anti-fungal and kills ringworm (I myself had a spot of ringworm last summer and used that to get rid of it and it worked). I am not sure you can put it on cats straight and so would not do so without further guidance from a vet, but I have a natural flea powder that contains it so I know they use it to some degree on cats and dogs. But you can mix it with water in a spray container and spray surfaces with it. 4. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just picked up a kitty from WI that was on Fulvicin, the
dosage was a quarter of a capsul 2 times a day, in all ym panick before I got
her a member of the list shot me over a few places to get ringworm treament,
it actually is for fleas...the links arehttp://www.flea-control-plus.com/acatalog/Program_Dog.htmlhttp://www.petvetsupplies.com/http://discountpetdrugs.com/progflecon.html

I also unearthed a treatment from Revival
Healthhttp://revivalanimal.com/product.asp?pn=27-410

Revival Health also has a great article at http://revivalanimal.com/article.asp?ai=11
5. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I absolutely refused to
administer any oral medications (Fulvicin/Griseofulvin,
Itraconazole, etc.) to Ralphie (or my other cats) for the
ringworm. Ralphie had lurked around deaths door too many
times for me to chance it.I consider Seth the "king of
ringworm". Don't know if he'd appreciate that, but I've
heard that Bastille's fungus-free status is primarily due to
Seth's dedication to bathing him.At the ringworm group, I
have a file listing all the different treatments I used. I
was most happy with:* Lym dip - tho I recommend no more
frequently than one a week for 2 or 3 weeks, then every other
week. It can be kind of harsh/drying to their skin and they
do tend to lick at it, so they're ingesting it* Shampoo
- I got some Ketachlor shampoo from the shelter and it seemed to
help. I only got it about two weeks before Ralphie was
declared ringworm free, and maybe that's a coincidence, maybe
not.. but his last bath before "freedom" was with this shampoo -
then I gave him a final bath before moving him to another room
(just in case he picke

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

2005-10-31 Thread gblane

I always use Gentian Violet - or sometimes use Golden Seal.  Both are 
anti-fungals.


I'm a-gonna go get me some Blue Star ointment to try! Got a ringworm kitty 
here...


Gloria


At 01:47 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote:
Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it 
at any pharmacy.
like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for me. 5.00 
a jar

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Gentian Violet ... messy though, isn't it? I remember that from when 
I was a child (many, many, many moons ago), didn't know it was still 
available.

Del

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  From: 
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  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:25 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  I always use Gentian Violet - or sometimes use Golden 
  Seal. Both are anti-fungals.I'm a-gonna go get me some Blue 
  Star ointment to try! Got a ringworm kitty 
  here...GloriaAt 01:47 PM 10/31/2005, you 
  wrote:Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You 
  can get it at any pharmacy.like any rescue I get it. but the 
  blue star has always worked for me. 5.00 a 
jar

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









Is this safe for 12 wk old kittens?











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in kittens







once per day.never seen it fail

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2005-10-31 Thread gblane

Sure thing - My grandmother told us to use it when I was about 10 and had 
ringworm.  Dr had given us some messy white cream.  But the Gentian Violet 
knocked it out pronto.


BUT very messy.  I put it on my cats VERY carefully!  And sometimes, it's 
just not the right thing.


Gloria

At 02:36 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote:
Gentian Violet ... messy though, isn't it?  I remember that from when I 
was a child (many, many, many moons ago), didn't know it was still available.


Del
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Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

I always use Gentian Violet - or sometimes use Golden Seal.  Both are
anti-fungals.

I'm a-gonna go get me some Blue Star ointment to try! Got a ringworm kitty
here...

Gloria


At 01:47 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote:
Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it
at any pharmacy.
like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for me. 5.00
a jar

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




DO NOT USE TEA TREE OIL ON 
CATS

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




Yes my Katrina kittens were 7 weeks old. Ringworm, earmites, Rhino and 
chlymedia I used blue star on both.Whisper has since been adopted. I have a 
6 week old here now from the pound with URI he gets both interferon and blue 
star it cleared up after one week.

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When human gets it, is it itchy?











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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005
2:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens







Yes my Katrina kittens were 7 weeks old.
Ringworm, earmites, Rhino and chlymedia I used blue star on both.Whisper
has since been adopted. I have a 6 week old here now from the pound with URI he
gets both interferon and blue star it cleared up after one week.

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









Now  I feel so overwhelmed already,
because I am sure that they have RW  all of 4 kittens have bold patches
on their ears  and some on faces  I am now depressed - I really
dont have a place to separate them  please forward me RW yahoo
group  I would appreciate it. What is the name of gel that you are
going to order.











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Del Daniels
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005
12:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens







I sure hope you don't have the RW
:( This is not fun but I knew we'd have it eventually since I do a little
rescue and have a herd of cats. Little Ms Purrsy brought it with her and
was diagnosed early-mid August ... I was so very careful handling her, isolated
her immediately in her condo and it still moved into the big house and what a
hassle. The cats are on Griseofulvin (except the two FIV+ who take
Itraconazole) and topical Lotrimin liquid. I can't say that either works.
Some cats healed, some still broke out but very slow improvement, some with new
outbreaks after being on the oral for over three weeks. Frustrating.
Reading all the cleaning required, sorry, I don't have time enough in my day to
do all of what should
be done, not even close,and I am retired.Maybe we will have
it forever. .Maybe $500 already. And the UV light
... not all RW will flouresce even with the doc's expensive Wood light.
Some RWshows up as fur loss, some with crud, some sores, some itch others
do not. How many times can I use the word frustrating? May I add
that I do not regret having my cats nor taking this little rescue who brought
the RW even if we never get rid of it. If no one has already given it,
there is a RW yahoo group and I'll fwd it. There is a gel suggested that
is supposed to work wonderful and I am about to order some of it.











Del











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From: Hideyo Yamamoto 





To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 





Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:30 PM





Subject: RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









Really? Why is it such a nightmare?
Is it because its contagious and hard to get rid of? It
wont kill them or make them really sick, will they? Someone told
me that I should get a black light to confirm it.











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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005
11:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens





Hideyo,
Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to deal
with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send you my
compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know how to
confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?
N

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Cats that have had URI often bust
out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system.
I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any
pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a
liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 





its contagious to humans and to other animals so
careful when handling them.





BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has
made all the difference in the world.

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









I wonder if I have it.. I have some red
spots its sort of stings and itchy--- is it RW? Its encouraging
to know that most of your kitties did not get it. What spray did you use on
you? What is Difulcan  is it over the counter drug?











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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005
12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens







My most recent kitten Mystery had ringworm, without my knowledge and I
brought her in my house of 10 cats, 1 dog and my sonmy FeLV+ cat is the
only one that caught it and of course I did also...it is really bad, I used an
antibactial spray three days on and 1 day off for 3 weeks and that helped, with
me I took Difulcan and used rubbing alcohol on the wounds, it was not fun ;-(

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 



Cats that have had URI
often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune
system. I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in
any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a
liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 





its contagious to humans and to other
animals so careful when handling them.





BTW the interferon on my URI negative
kittens has made all the difference in the world. 









Have a purrfect day





Cherie

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens









I havent  I have to go get
it  since I have 5 cats with bald spots, I am hoping that it will tell
me something if anyone has RW 











From:
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On Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005
12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm
in kittens







Did you try the black light method? If you take them into a dark area
and shine the black light on it if it glows greenish it is definately
ringworm.but be careful sometimes ringworm does not glow green.

Hideyo
 Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I noticed that there are some bald spots and flakey
inside of ear on all of my four kittens and the mamas nose as
welland I think they are ringworm  though they still have URIs
that come and go and cant get rid of (over several weeks now) for some
reasons.



Any suggestions on treatment? How worried should I
be? 







Have a purrfect day





Cherie

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2005-10-31 Thread Lewis Faye

Don't panic. Ringworm is a very common fungi in the environment.Most of us and our pets come into contact with it every day and do not become infected. Most outbreaks are due to immune system issues. There is a more than reasonable chance that no human will get the ringworm from your cats. I had a horse with a terrible case of it years ago and no human or pet got it from him. I would see your vet and start there. It can be stubborn in some animals but it can be overcome.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









I wonder if I have it.. I have some red spots its sort of stings and itchy--- is it RW? Its encouraging to know that most of your kitties did not get it. What spray did you use on you? What is Difulcan  is it over the counter drug?





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:29 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens


My most recent kitten Mystery had ringworm, without my knowledge and I brought her in my house of 10 cats, 1 dog and my sonmy FeLV+ cat is the only one that caught it and of course I did also...it is really bad, I used an antibactial spray three days on and 1 day off for 3 weeks and that helped, with me I took Difulcan and used rubbing alcohol on the wounds, it was not fun ;-([EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 

its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when handling them.

BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the difference in the world. 


Have a purrfect day

Cherie


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2005-10-31 Thread Gloria B. Lane




I just went to my local pharmacy and asked for Blue Star Ointment. He 
carries it, but is out and is going to order some more.

Gloria


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:47 
  PM
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  kittens
  
  Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it 
  at any pharmacy. 
  like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for me. 
  5.00 a jar

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2005-10-31 Thread janine paton

Yes, please don't use Tea Tree Oil on or around cats. 
And if it's a small amount in a product (like Halo
makes an earwash that has T.T. listed in it) I won't
use it either because I wonder what effect it has on
their liver.  

Janine

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 DO NOT USE TEA TREE OIL ON  CATS

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

Red spots stings and itchy ... yup, probably
RW.

Del

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From:
Hideyo Yamamoto
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:15
PM
Subject: RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in
kittens

I wonder if I have
it.. I have some red spots its sort of stings and itchy--- is it RW?
Its encouraging to know that most of your kitties did not get it. What
spray did you use on you? What is Difulcan is it over the counter
drug?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:29
PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in
kittens

My most recent kitten Mystery had ringworm, without my
knowledge and I brought her in my house of 10 cats, 1 dog and my sonmy
FeLV+ cat is the only one that caught it and of course I did also...it is
really bad, I used an antibactial spray three days on and 1 day off for 3
weeks and that helped, with me I took Difulcan and used rubbing alcohol on the
wounds, it was not fun ;-([EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Cats that have had
URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered
immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get
it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives
them a liquiddon't know what it is though works every time.

its contagious to
humans and to other animals so careful when handling
them.

BTW the interferon
on my URI negative kittens has made all the difference in the world.

Have a purrfect
day

Cherie

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This is what I posted earlier, you may have 
seen it by now. Someone also suggested Blue Star ointment and it is cheap 
... maybe I'll buy that, too, andtry it on some of my furkids. 
Revival animal supply catalog has two pages on RW and their suggestions, which 
include selling alltheir products of course, will further depress 
you. It sounds like we need the National Guard and several $1000 to ever 
get rid of RW. Some of my guys have cleared even though more are breaking 
out. You have a large number of kitties, too, don't you? I 
understand your depression :( with this. 

Hugs,
Del
Info can be found here: 
www.guaranteed-ringworm-cure.com/eguide
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Ringworm Gel: http://www.petsbestrx.com/ringworm/ 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:12 
  PM
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  kittens
  
  
  Now  I feel so 
  overwhelmed already, because I am sure that they have RW  all of 4 kittens 
  have bold patches on their ears  and some on faces  I am now depressed - I 
  really dont have a place to separate them  please forward me RW yahoo group 
   I would appreciate it. What is the name of gel that you are going to 
  order.
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del DanielsSent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:44 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  
  
  I sure hope you 
  don't have the RW :( This is not fun but I knew we'd have it eventually 
  since I do a little rescue and have a herd of cats. Little Ms Purrsy 
  brought it with her and was diagnosed early-mid August ... I was so very 
  careful handling her, isolated her immediately in her condo and it still moved 
  into the big house and what a hassle. The cats are on Griseofulvin 
  (except the two FIV+ who take Itraconazole) and topical Lotrimin liquid. 
  I can't say that either works. Some cats healed, some still broke out 
  but very slow improvement, some with new outbreaks after being on the oral for 
  over three weeks. Frustrating. Reading 
  all the cleaning required, sorry, I don't have time enough in my day to do all 
  of what should be done, not even 
  close,and I am retired.Maybe we will have it forever. 
  .Maybe $500 already. And the UV light ... not all RW 
  will flouresce even with the doc's expensive Wood light. Some 
  RWshows up as fur loss, some with crud, some sores, some itch others do 
  not. How many times can I use the word frustrating? May I add 
  that I do not regret having my cats nor taking this little rescue who brought 
  the RW even if we never get rid of it. If no one has already given it, 
  there is a RW yahoo group and I'll fwd it. There is a gel suggested that 
  is supposed to work wonderful and I am about to order some of 
  it.
  
  
  
  Del
  
  
  
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From: Hideyo Yamamoto 


To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 


Sent: Monday, 
October 31, 2005 12:30 PM

Subject: RE: OT: Help 
! ringworm in kittens


Really? Why 
is it such a nightmare? Is it because its contagious and hard to get 
rid of? It wont kill them or make them really sick, will they? 
Someone told me that I should get a black light to confirm 
it.





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:28 
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
kittens

Hideyo,Oh man, let's 
hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to deal with it 
myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send you my compiled 
notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know how to confirm 
diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?N[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Cats that have had 
URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered 
immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can 
get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he 
gives them a liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 


its contagious to humans and to 
other animals so careful when handling 
them.

BTW the interferon on my URI 
negative kittens has made all the difference in the world.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

Will ringworm show up under a 'black light'??
tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hideyo,Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to deal with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send you my compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know how to confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?N[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is though works every time. 
its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when handling them.
BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the difference in the world.

RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens

Hideyo,

Ringworm is a nightmare. You need to quarantine those kittens right away. Preferably in a basement or somewhere totally away from the others. Meanwhile... the spores spread through the air. If possible I would put them in cages and put sheets over the cages to try to keep it from spreading.

You need to bleach everything. You need to wash yourself when you tend to these guys before tending to your other cats. I had a friend with it that put the ringworm cats in the basement and she would actually undress in the basement, and go straight to the shower and get dressed in clean clothes everytime she went down there. It took her months to get everyone cleared up.

Do a google search on ringworm. My vet always said to wash the places with a very diluted bleach solution. Their cages need to be cleaned regularly too, and food dishes, and litters, etc It all needs to be bleached. 

That's the short version. :( 

Good luck with this. Ringworm is such a pain. No, it's not deadly, and we don't like to euthanize cats for it at the shelter, but it's so contagious that it's hard to deal with.

Immunity (or lack of it) does have something to do with who will or will not catch it.

tonyaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







I guess now I have a big disaster in my house.. because I have so many other cats and kittens are everywhere  
I was also told and read that though its contagious, cats with regular immunity will not develop symptoms--- is it true? Or not really?





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:33 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens


No ringworm wont make them any sicker its just a pain to get rid of and it could take a couple of months for the hair to grow back

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I got mine at petsmart.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Where do I get a black light? Do they have it at Walgreen or something?





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:32 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens


Yeah use a black light..that's how you can tell for sure.

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Did you say on the ears and nose?? I don't think it's that common in those areas. Sure it's not earmites?

tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Is this safe for 12 wk old kittens?





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:05 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens


once per day.never seen it fail

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No, the RW does not always flouresce. And it 
can (did) get kind of nasty before it did show up. Doc's wood's light is 
much stronger than my $15 UV light ... his didn't floresce either! Which 
makes diagnosis more frustrating. Once you have a dx on one cat you can 
fairly assume the other lesions, fur loss, etc., is RW. 

Del

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  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:06 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  
  Will ringworm show up under a 'black light'??
  tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Hideyo,Oh 
man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to deal 
with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send you my 
compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know how to 
confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?N[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my 
  world.Its from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment 
  and it never fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I 
  take them to the vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is 
  though works every time. 
  its contagious to humans and to other animals so careful when 
  handling them.
  BTW the interferon on my URI negative kittens has made all the 
  difference in the world.

Re: OT: Help ! ringworm in kittens




My kitties have RW on the backs of their ears, fur 
loss on the tips without lesionson the tips(yet), lesions and fur 
loss on the foreheads, one lesionon the flank, fur loss spotson paws 
and tail, fur loss spots on the nose ... Often the other cats 
have been exposed before any dx is made and onward it goes through the 
herd. Ugh! Once it had spread (and yes, I was very careful) there 
was no point in isolating those to condos any longer, so let them out. 
Also, hyperpigmentation of the skin where the fur loss occurs is another sign of 
RW.

Del



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:32 
  PM
  Subject: RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in 
  kittens
  
  Did you say on the ears and nose?? I don't think it's that common 
  in those areas. Sure it's not earmites?
  
  tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  








Is this safe for 12 
wk old kittens?





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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kittens


once per 
day.never seen it 
  fail

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Gloria,
grocery stores also carry it.

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ringworm is extremely common on the outside of the 
ear..

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Guys,
I tried all the lastest from revival with ringworm...nothing works like 
the old fashioned stuff. Blue star. its thick and prevents it from spreading. it 
smells bad and they dont lick it.

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