Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-26 Thread Gina WN
Keeping Lucy in my thoughts and prayers.
   
  Gina
  

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  Michelle,
  My prayers are w/ you and Lucy...
  Hugs,
  
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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-25 Thread catatonya
Prayers for Lucy.  I hope she's feeling better by the time I catch up on my 
email.  
   
  t

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  The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with her. 
The things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured 
intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection.  She has some symptoms of each, 
but not enough of any of them to make it seem like the diagnosis. They did 
ultrasound and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could not come up with 
anything. They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph nodes and sent us 
home with her.  Upon getting home, she looks much worse. She does not want to 
eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am afraid to give her more 
of it due to her IBD.  She is kind of hunched up and looks nauseous and out of 
it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look 
this way before I took her to the hospital, or even while so feverish last 
night.  The oncologist had said that if her clinical signs get worse, e.g. she 
stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for more tests.
 I am so loathe to do that, especially today right from getting home.  I am 
going to give her a few hours and see if she gets any better. I would feel 
better if she would just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't.  I offered her her 
turkey and she looked like she was going to be sick from smelling it. She was 
also a little wobbly coming up the stairs.  We thought maybe they had 
tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She has not really eaten 
now since last night (I withheld food this morning so don't know if she would 
have eaten or not).
   
  Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated.  Very exhausted 
and worried and sad here.
   
  Michelle



Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-25 Thread Chris Ramzy

Thinking of you and Lucyand hoping for the best.





From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:38:54 -0800 (PST)

Prayers for Lucy.  I hope she's feeling better by the time I catch up on my 
email.


  t

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with 
her. The things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a 
ruptured intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection.  She has some 
symptoms of each, but not enough of any of them to make it seem like the 
diagnosis. They did ultrasound and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and 
could not come up with anything. They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy 
of lymph nodes and sent us home with her.  Upon getting home, she looks 
much worse. She does not want to eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry 
food, and I am afraid to give her more of it due to her IBD.  She is kind 
of hunched up and looks nauseous and out of it. She lets me pet her and 
purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look this way before I took her 
to the hospital, or even while so feverish last night.  The oncologist had 
said that if her clinical signs get worse, e.g. she stops eating, to bring 
her back and admit her for more tests.
 I am so loathe to do that, especially today right from getting home.  I 
am going to give her a few hours and see if she gets any better. I would 
feel better if she would just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't.  I 
offered her her turkey and she looked like she was going to be sick from 
smelling it. She was also a little wobbly coming up the stairs.  We thought 
maybe they had tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She has 
not really eaten now since last night (I withheld food this morning so 
don't know if she would have eaten or not).


  Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated.  Very 
exhausted and worried and sad here.


  Michelle



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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Gina WN
Sending healing energy Lucy's way and praying for more time for you and she.  I 
am so sorry about this Michelle.  I know how you feel; while I love all my 
babies, my Tigger and I have a special bond that just seems to grow over the 
years.
   
  Gina
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did 
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They 
took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read 
xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged 
heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and 
some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, 
against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything 
and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the 
best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we 
need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, 
and I want it from the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still 
eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, 
and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her
 clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks 
it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to 
chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who 
have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that 
nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo 
and I can't do it.  But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis 
before deciding all of this.  She is happy to be home for now.  She ate a 
little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. 
   
  Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least 
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I 
love them too. she is my love.
   
  Michelle



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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Marylyn
May all the angels watch over you and Lucy.  She will be frightened but she 
will be with you and know your love.






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 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:36 PM
  Subject: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious


  Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did blood 
work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They took 
xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read xrays 
totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. 
They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some 
torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, 
against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything 
and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the 
best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we 
need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, 
and I want it from the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still 
eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, 
and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood 
work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was 
trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told 
her I had one who did and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is 
FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that 
she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I 
want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  
She is happy to be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, 
probably 10 or 15 little pieces. 

  Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least 
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I 
love them too. she is my love.

  Michelle

Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Belinda

 Michelle,
   If at all possible try and get an appointment with Dr Rogers Fred, 
he is a leading oncologist and one that is used by and consulted with by 
many members of the Feline Lymphoma group members.  He is one of the 
best!!!  Prayers for Lucy, I hope it isn't lymphoma or anything else, 
but if it is she will be in the best hands.  If is cancer, maybe he can 
consult with your vet about the protocol and your vet can do the chemo 
if you do chemo, that way Lucy wouldn't have to deal with the stressful 
car ride.


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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Susan Loesch
Good luck, Michelle, with Lucy's visit to the other vet.  Many many prayers 
coming your way from my house.  I know what you mean about loving her more -- 
that is the way I felt about my Daisy who died in Oct.  Sometimes one kitty 
will just be -- for lack of better terms, a soulmate.  Give her a hug from me 
and my feleuk gang.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her 
to the ER. They did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver 
enzymes are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't 
really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen 
and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. 
With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I 
then took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think 
they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 
7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It 
is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I 
want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people.  Except for the 
fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not completely 
terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio
 which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could 
mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me 
that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did 
and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is possible 
that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart 
problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to try, at 
least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She is happy to 
be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 
little pieces. 
   
  Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least 
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I 
love them too. she is my love.
   
  Michelle



Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Gary Murphy
Oh Michelle, prayers going out for you and Lucy.  You're such a
good mom to her.  Hope the ride went ok and that we hear some
good news this afternoon.

Hugs,
Beth

RE: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sending prayers for your darling Lucy, Michelle. By now you will
hopefully have a better idea what's going on. It's wonderful that you
got an immediate appointment with the best hospital. It's also wonderful
that she's still enjoying her food and eating well. Kerry M.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious


Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low.
They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really
trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen
and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it
is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two
hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not
seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have
an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the
state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at
5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want
it from the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still eating
(probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert,
and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs
and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's
lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to
chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with
cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is
lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems
that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to try, at
least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She is
happy to be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey,
probably 10 or 15 little pieces. 
 
Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at
least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the
others, though I love them too. she is my love.
 
Michelle
 
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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Kerry Roach
Michelle,
  I am sorry to hear Lucy isn't doing so well yet..I don't know why they won't 
give you some dex or give her a dex injection..I know it works the fastest to 
reduce the temp..It is almost standard procedure from any vet I have used for 
dogs or cats here..It also hits any inflammation that might be going on more 
rapidly, too..at least until you can get a firm diagnosis, it always helps. 
Bandy's temp never would go down much with an incease in pred. Anyway,  I hope 
you get the answers at the specialist.. We will pray than it isn't wet fip or 
lymphoma.  
  You two are in our thoughts and prayers,
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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread cindy reasoner
Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about Lucy.  I hope
you get better news at the vet office. I know what you
mean about loving all of your babies but there is one
that just captures your heart and soul. It sounds like
you are doing everything for your sweet baby. I will
be praying for both of you.

Cindy Reasoner 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to
 the ER. They did blood  
 work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver
 enzymes are low. They took 
 xrays  and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I
 don't really trust to read xrays  
 totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen
 and an enlarged heart. 
 They  tapped the fluid and could not tell what it
 is. With IV fluids and some  
 torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours.
 I then took her home,  
 against their advice, because they did not seem to
 think they could do anything  
 and she was miserable there. I have an appointment
 for 7:30 am at Red Bank, 
 the  best vet hospital in the state, with an
 oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so 
 we  need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides,
 but I want a better 
 diagnosis,  and I want it from the best people. 
 Except for the fact that she is 
 still  eating (probably not normally, but not
 completely terribly either) and 
 alert,  and her protein ratio which does not point
 to FIP, her clinical signs and 
 blood  work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet
 thinks it's lymphoma.  
 She  was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont
 respond to chemo, even 
 though I  told her I had one who did and know others
 with cats who have.  It is  
 possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is
 lymphoma so bad that nothing can  
 be done or that she has heart problems that will
 complicate chemo and I can't 
 do  it.  But I want to try, at least, to get a
 better diagnosis before 
 deciding  all of this.  She is happy to be home for
 now.  She ate a little bit  of 
 cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. 
  
 Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I
 hope she can at  least 
 have some good time left. she is my baby, more than
 any of the others,  though I 
 love them too. she is my love.
  
 Michelle
 



 

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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Kelley Saveika

Michelle,

I will be praying for yall to have more good time together.  I have one I
love more too.


On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They
took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to
read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an
enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV
fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then
took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they
could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for
7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist.
It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides,
but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people.  Except
for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not
completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not
point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet
FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that
FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did
and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is
possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has
heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to
try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She
is happy to be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey,
probably 10 or 15 little pieces.

Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others,
though I love them too. she is my love.

Michelle





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RE: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I will be sending tons of prayers for Lucy - she is a fighter and she
always has overcome all the things.. and I just have a feeling that she
is going to get rid of whatever she is fighting against and will get
better very very soon.

 

Hugs to you and Lucy.

 

Hideyo

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

 

Sending prayers for your darling Lucy, Michelle. By now you will
hopefully have a better idea what's going on. It's wonderful that you
got an immediate appointment with the best hospital. It's also wonderful
that she's still enjoying her food and eating well. Kerry M.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low.
They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really
trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen
and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it
is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two
hours. I then took her home, against their advice, because they did not
seem to think they could do anything and she was miserable there. I have
an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the
state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at
5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want
it from the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still eating
(probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert,
and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her clinical signs
and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's
lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to
chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with
cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is
lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has heart problems
that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to try, at
least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She is
happy to be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey,
probably 10 or 15 little pieces. 

 

Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at
least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the
others, though I love them too. she is my love.

 

Michelle

 

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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Nina

Oh Michelle,
Did you have the ER vets save the fluid for your oncologist to test?  
Thank goodness you have educated yourself and know that the diagnosis of 
an ER vet is not always reliable.  I'm so blessed to not have anyone in 
crisis right now, but reading your post sent all those fears and dreads 
of the past flooding to my heart.  We do all understand what you are 
going through, all the uncertainty, all the hope, all the prayers for 
guidance and most of all the prayer for more quality time.  As Hideyo 
said, Lucy is a fighter, and we know that you are too.  Think about 
Kerry's Bandy and how he continued to rally. 

It doesn't matter how long they are with us, it's never long enough.  Do 
your very best to concentrate on the Now, take things one step at a 
time, try not to jump ahead to all the worst case scenarios, your love 
for each other is what is most important.  Your special bond with Lucy 
tells me she has much to teach you.  Do your best to let go of anxiety, 
purposely make moments of quiet in her company so she can continue to 
impart her wisdom and settle your heart.  My thoughts and prayers are 
with you.

Love and strength to you both,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did 
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. 
They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really 
trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her 
abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not 
tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down 
to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against their advice, 
because they did not seem to think they could do anything and she was 
miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the 
best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours 
away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want 
a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people.  Except for 
the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not 
completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which 
does not point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise 
could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying 
to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I 
told her I had one who did and know others with cats who have.  It is 
possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that 
nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will 
complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to try, at least, to 
get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She is happy to 
be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 
or 15 little pieces.
 
Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at 
least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the 
others, though I love them too. she is my love.
 
Michelle





Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Lernermichelle
The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with her. The  
things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured 
intestine,  pancreatitis, and other infection.  She has some symptoms of each, 
but not  
enough of any of them to make it seem like the diagnosis. They did ultrasound 
 and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could not come up with anything. 
They  sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph nodes and sent us home 
with  her.  Upon getting home, she looks much worse. She does not want to eat  
except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am afraid to give her more of it 
 due to her IBD.  She is kind of hunched up and looks nauseous and out of  
it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look 
this 
 way before I took her to the hospital, or even while so feverish last  
night.  The oncologist had said that if her clinical signs get worse, e.g.  she 
stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for more tests. I am so loathe  
to 
do that, especially today right from getting home.  I am going to give  her a 
few hours and see if she gets any better. I would feel better if she would  
just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't.  I offered her her turkey and she  
looked like she was going to be sick from smelling it. She was also a little  
wobbly coming up the stairs.  We thought maybe they had tranquilized her to  
get 
the biopsy but they said no. She has not really eaten now since last night  (I 
withheld food this morning so don't know if she would have eaten or  not).
 
Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated.  Very  
exhausted and worried and sad here.
 
Michelle


Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Lernermichelle
 
I think they did not want to give her dex because there is the possibility  
that she is fighting some kind of bad infection, and dex is contraindicated for 
 that. Or that she has some kind of ulceration in her intestines, which dex 
is  also contraindicated for. I asked for it, believe me.  I am a huge  
proponent of using it.
 
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/18/2007 10:16:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michelle,
I am sorry to hear Lucy isn't doing so well yet..I don't know why they  won't 
give you some dex or give her a dex injection..I know it works the  fastest 
to reduce the temp..It is almost standard procedure from any vet I  have used 
for dogs or cats here..It also hits any inflammation that might be  going on 
more rapidly, too..at least until you can get a firm diagnosis, it  always 
helps. Bandy's temp never would go down much with an incease in  pred. Anyway,  
I 
hope you get the answers at the specialist.. We  will pray than it isn't wet 
fip or lymphoma.  
You two are in our thoughts and prayers,
Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky



 


Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Susan Loesch
Michelle, do give her a little while to recover from this morning.  She has 
been through a lot, being poked and prodded and tested.  Unless you get a gut 
feeling that she's definitely going downhill think about giving her 24 hours.  
I think that is what I would do if she were mine -- but being there with her of 
course that might not feel right.  Don't panic - take a deep breath and relax 
so that she will not feel your stress.   Praying for you both.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The oncologist and internist can not figure out 
what is wrong with her. The things that can cause abdominal fluids are 
lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection.  She 
has some symptoms of each, but not enough of any of them to make it seem like 
the diagnosis. They did ultrasound and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and 
could not come up with anything. They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of 
lymph nodes and sent us home with her.  Upon getting home, she looks much 
worse. She does not want to eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I 
am afraid to give her more of it due to her IBD.  She is kind of hunched up and 
looks nauseous and out of it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks 
awful. She did not look this way before I took her to the hospital, or even 
while so feverish last night.  The oncologist had said that if her clinical 
signs get worse, e.g. she stops eating, to bring her back
 and admit her for more tests. I am so loathe to do that, especially today 
right from getting home.  I am going to give her a few hours and see if she 
gets any better. I would feel better if she would just curl up and sleep, but 
she doesn't.  I offered her her turkey and she looked like she was going to be 
sick from smelling it. She was also a little wobbly coming up the stairs.  We 
thought maybe they had tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She 
has not really eaten now since last night (I withheld food this morning so 
don't know if she would have eaten or not).
   
  Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated.  Very exhausted 
and worried and sad here.
   
  Michelle



Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Nina
That is my first impulse too.  Give her time to recover from her ordeal, 
the car ride, the fevers, the testing, all of those things by themselves 
are enough to exhaust her.  You are there, you know best, but my first 
thought is to give her time to regain her strength.

Nina

Susan Loesch wrote:
Michelle, do give her a little while to recover from this morning.  
She has been through a lot, being poked and prodded and tested.  
Unless you get a gut feeling that she's definitely going downhill 
think about giving her 24 hours.  I think that is what I would do if 
she were mine -- but being there with her of course that might not 
feel right.  Don't panic - take a deep breath and relax so that she 
will not feel your stress.   Praying for you both.


*/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with
her. The things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP,
a ruptured intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection.  She has
some symptoms of each, but not enough of any of them to make it
seem like the diagnosis. They did ultrasound and biopsy, looked at
the fluid again, and could not come up with anything. They sent
out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph nodes and sent us home
with her.  Upon getting home, she looks much worse. She does not
want to eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am
afraid to give her more of it due to her IBD.  She is kind of
hunched up and looks nauseous and out of it. She lets me pet her
and purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look this way
before I took her to the hospital, or even while so feverish last
night.  The oncologist had said that if her clinical signs get
worse, e.g. she stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for
more tests. I am so loathe to do that, especially today right from
getting home.  I am going to give her a few hours and see if she
gets any better. I would feel better if she would just curl up and
sleep, but she doesn't.  I offered her her turkey and she looked
like she was going to be sick from smelling it. She was also a
little wobbly coming up the stairs.  We thought maybe they had
tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She has not
really eaten now since last night (I withheld food this morning so
don't know if she would have eaten or not).
 
Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated. 
Very exhausted and worried and sad here.
 
Michelle








RE: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
I'm so sorry they couldn't give you any better info, and more
importantly, something to *treat,* after all that.  I tend to agree that
you should wait at least a few hours to let her recover a little from
the trauma.  Is there something you can tempt her with without bothering
the IBD?  If she wants to eat even a little bit that's encouraging.
Here's vibes that she perks up at least a little and that you can get a
little rest.  Very gentle hugs to poor Lucy.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious


The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with her.
The things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured
intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection.  She has some symptoms of
each, but not enough of any of them to make it seem like the diagnosis.
They did ultrasound and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could not
come up with anything. They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of
lymph nodes and sent us home with her.  Upon getting home, she looks
much worse. She does not want to eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry
food, and I am afraid to give her more of it due to her IBD.  She is
kind of hunched up and looks nauseous and out of it. She lets me pet her
and purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look this way before I
took her to the hospital, or even while so feverish last night.  The
oncologist had said that if her clinical signs get worse, e.g. she stops
eating, to bring her back and admit her for more tests. I am so loathe
to do that, especially today right from getting home.  I am going to
give her a few hours and see if she gets any better. I would feel better
if she would just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't.  I offered her her
turkey and she looked like she was going to be sick from smelling it.
She was also a little wobbly coming up the stairs.  We thought maybe
they had tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She has
not really eaten now since last night (I withheld food this morning so
don't know if she would have eaten or not).
 
Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated.  Very
exhausted and worried and sad here.
 
Michelle

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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Lernermichelle
 
I want to also. She is curled up sleeping now, but her back legs seemed  very 
unsteady when she stood up to change position, and it seemed like she kind  
of collapsed back onto the towel. Apparently paresis, or rear leg paralysis, 
can  be a neurological sign of FIP, so this is scaring me. Of course, she is 
also  anemic and was through something very rough today, so maybe she is just  
super-exhausted.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 1/18/2007 2:37:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That is  my first impulse too.  Give her time to recover from her ordeal, 
the  car ride, the fevers, the testing, all of those things by themselves 
are  enough to exhaust her.  You are there, you know best, but my first  
thought is to give her time to regain her  strength.
Nina


 


Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Nina

Michelle,
I'm sure you're both exhausted.  I'm glad she seems to be resting more 
comfortably right now.  Do your best to be vigilant, not scared.  Have 
faith not fear.  If not faith in a higher power, or a higher good, at 
least faith that you and she know what's best, faith in your own 
judgement and instinct.  I ALWAYS weigh the benefit against the stress 
of any vet visit.  You've already been to the best vet you know, they've 
done testing, as is so very often the case, they still don't have a 
definitive diagnosis.  What more could they do for her at this point?  I 
think she would be better off regaining some of her strength before you 
put her through more testing.  If the worst happens and she begins to 
fail, at least, (not so very least imho), she'll be in the loving 
comfort of her home with you by her side.  I know how hard it is to wait 
and see when someone's sick, I'm always afraid that I'm wasting time 
that could be used to find THE answer.  How did Leslie put it?  
Something about a dance, not knowing where to place your foot.  I found 
the quote:


Take a breath.  Look out the window.  Just pause.  The next step is 
right there, your foot is raised to take it, and you're doing amazing 
ballet in pivoting to all angles before deciding where to put it and 
that's okay.


We're all here with you and Lucy, sending you love and strength,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to also. She is curled up sleeping now, but her back legs 
seemed very unsteady when she stood up to change position, and it 
seemed like she kind of collapsed back onto the towel. Apparently 
paresis, or rear leg paralysis, can be a neurological sign of FIP, so 
this is scaring me. Of course, she is also anemic and was through 
something very rough today, so maybe she is just super-exhausted.

Michelle


Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread cindy reasoner
Michelle, I am sorry that Lucy isn't doing well.  I
hope she starts feeling better.  I am sending prayers
to the two of you.

Cindy Reasoner
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The oncologist and internist can not figure out what
 is wrong with her. The  
 things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma,
 FIP, a ruptured 
 intestine,  pancreatitis, and other infection.  She
 has some symptoms of each, but not  
 enough of any of them to make it seem like the
 diagnosis. They did ultrasound 
  and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could
 not come up with anything. 
 They  sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph
 nodes and sent us home 
 with  her.  Upon getting home, she looks much worse.
 She does not want to eat  
 except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am
 afraid to give her more of it 
  due to her IBD.  She is kind of hunched up and
 looks nauseous and out of  
 it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks
 awful. She did not look this 
  way before I took her to the hospital, or even
 while so feverish last  
 night.  The oncologist had said that if her clinical
 signs get worse, e.g.  she 
 stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for
 more tests. I am so loathe  to 
 do that, especially today right from getting home. 
 I am going to give  her a 
 few hours and see if she gets any better. I would
 feel better if she would  
 just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't.  I offered
 her her turkey and she  
 looked like she was going to be sick from smelling
 it. She was also a little  
 wobbly coming up the stairs.  We thought maybe they
 had tranquilized her to  get 
 the biopsy but they said no. She has not really
 eaten now since last night  (I 
 withheld food this morning so don't know if she
 would have eaten or  not).
  
 Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely
 appreciated.  Very  
 exhausted and worried and sad here.
  
 Michelle
 



 

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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread elizabeth trent

Michelle,
I can't even imagine what you must be going through.  I hope so much that
Lucy will feel better and that you can get some useful information to help
her.  You've both had a very difficult day.  My heart and prayers are with
you both.

elizabeth


On 1/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think they did not want to give her dex because there is the
possibility that she is fighting some kind of bad infection, and dex is
contraindicated for that. Or that she has some kind of ulceration in her
intestines, which dex is also contraindicated for. I asked for it, believe
me.  I am a huge proponent of using it.

Michelle

In a message dated 1/18/2007 10:16:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Michelle,
I am sorry to hear Lucy isn't doing so well yet..I don't know why they
won't give you some dex or give her a dex injection..I know it works the
fastest to reduce the temp..It is almost standard procedure from any vet I
have used for dogs or cats here..It also hits any inflammation that might be
going on more rapidly, too..at least until you can get a firm diagnosis, it
always helps. Bandy's temp never would go down much with an incease in
pred. Anyway,  I hope you get the answers at the specialist.. We will pray
than it isn't wet fip or lymphoma.
You two are in our thoughts and prayers,
Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky





Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, man! I wish you lived anywhere except the USA! Feline Interferon Omega
has even cured FIP in some cases! I've been reading lots of studies about
it, and I really believe it can do miracles... but it's not LEGAL here yet!
How is she breathing?

Rear leg weakness can also be an electrolyte imbalance, and is often a
symptom of badly controlled CRF. I can look up the exact imbalance... but I
want to say it's a potassium deficiency...

Phaewryn

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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Michelle,
  Believe me I know exactly how you are feeling right now.. What sort of 
infection does she have? Or do they know?  URI?  I guess I don't understand why 
they won't give at least one initial dose of dex to bring the temp down and 
help increase her appetite.  
  Have you tried any fancy feast?  Inky can tolerate small amounts of the 
salmon and shrimp..I put his pills in that, but only about a tsp..cause he 
could eat the whole can..It doesn't cause loose stool or anything as long as I 
keep it to that amount.  Sometimes, I mix a little with his turkey just to give 
the added flavor they crave..
  I'm just searching for some things that I have tried that might work for 
her..also, karo syrup mixed with some warm water might give her a little boost, 
too..
  I hope she will rest so she will feel better soon..
  You are in our thoughts and prayers,
  Kerry, Angel Bandy and Inky

 
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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Belinda
It usually is that, can also be very high phosphorus, Fred has CRF 
and is getting both binders for high phosphorus, now normal after 
binders for 2 months, and potassium supplements for low potassium 3.7 4 
is low normal.  He doesn't wobble anymore.  Still a little weak though 
and has trouble jumping up on things.


He gets blood work tomorrow and maybe a feeding tube (slowly but steadly 
losing weight), we'll see how his potassium and phosphorus and HCT are now.



I can look up the exact imbalance... but I want to say it's a 
potassium deficiency


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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, I will be sending Fred positive energy for his vet trip! Feeding tubes
are really scary, but can really help a lot too! Thanks for helping me out
on that one! I thought it was one of those two, glad it was both, now I was
right either way, LOL! I need to note that in a file and add it to my site,
you don't happen to know the normal rage for both of those (phosphorus and
potassium), do you Belinda?

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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Belinda

Got Fred's last labs right here:

Normal Phosphorus at Anetech lab is

*2.4-8.2*  Fred's is 3.7, he was at 8 way too high
(CRF cats should be right around 4 and treat at 6)

Normal Potassium is

*3.4-5.6*  Fred's is 3.7 so low normal
I think CRF cats want to stay between 4 and 5.


you don't happen to know the normal rage for both of those (phosphorus 
and potassium), do you Belinda?


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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-18 Thread Gina WN
Poor baby, she might just be exhausted.  I hope it isn't FIP and I have been 
praying for her.
   
  Gina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to also. She is curled up sleeping now, but her back legs seemed 
very unsteady when she stood up to change position, and it seemed like she kind 
of collapsed back onto the towel. Apparently paresis, or rear leg paralysis, 
can be a neurological sign of FIP, so this is scaring me. Of course, she is 
also anemic and was through something very rough today, so maybe she is just 
super-exhausted.
  Michelle
   
  In a message dated 1/18/2007 2:37:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  That is my first impulse too.  Give her time to recover from her ordeal, 
the car ride, the fevers, the testing, all of those things by themselves 
are enough to exhaust her.  You are there, you know best, but my first 
thought is to give her time to regain her strength.
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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-17 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Michelle,many prayers going out to you and sweet Lucy.Give her a kiss for me. 
And hugs to you.
  Sherry

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did 
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They 
took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to read 
xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged 
heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and 
some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, 
against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do anything 
and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 am at Red Bank, the 
best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we 
need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, 
and I want it from the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still 
eating (probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and alert, 
and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her
 clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER vet thinks 
it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ cats dont respond to 
chemo, even though I told her I had one who did and know others with cats who 
have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that 
nothing can be done or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo 
and I can't do it.  But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis 
before deciding all of this.  She is happy to be home for now.  She ate a 
little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces. 
   
  Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least 
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others, though I 
love them too. she is my love.
   
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Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-17 Thread Kelly L

At 08:36 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote:


Oh Michelle...you will be in my thoughts all the night. what time is 
it there???You are doing  the very best you can and giving her so 
much, but it is so very hard. Please please let us know what they 
say. I am glad they tapped her and she is more comfortable, that is 
an awfully low crit...

Good healing thoughts to both of you and drive carefully and care for yourself
kelly


Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They 
did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes 
are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I 
don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has 
fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid 
and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol her 
temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home, against 
their advice, because they did not seem to think they could do 
anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for 7:30 
am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an 
oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy 
hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from 
the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still eating 
(probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and 
alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her 
clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER 
vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that FeLV+ 
cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did 
and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is 
possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that 
she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do 
it.  But I want to try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before 
deciding all of this.  She is happy to be home for now.  She ate a 
little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15 little pieces.


Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at 
least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the 
others, though I love them too. she is my love.


Michelle
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RE: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-17 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I'm so sorry, Michelle.  Here are vibes and prayers that you and Lucy have
some good time left together.  She is blessed with a great mommy.

Diane R.
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  Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They
took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to
read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an
enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV
fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then
took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they
could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for
7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist.
It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides,
but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people.  Except
for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not
completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not
point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet
FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that
FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did
and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is
possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has
heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to
try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She
is happy to be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey,
probably 10 or 15 little pieces.

  Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others,
though I love them too. she is my love.

  Michelle


Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-17 Thread elizabeth trent

Prayers going up for you and Lucy, Michelle.  I would have brought her home
too.  Please let us know what the doctor says tomorrow.

hugs,
elizabeth


On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They did
blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes are low. They
took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I don't really trust to
read xrays totally correctly) like she has fluid in her abdomen and an
enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid and could not tell what it is. With IV
fluids and some torbutrol her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then
took her home, against their advice, because they did not seem to think they
could do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for
7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an oncologist.
It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am. Lucy hates car rides,
but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it from the best people.  Except
for the fact that she is still eating (probably not normally, but not
completely terribly either) and alert, and her protein ratio which does not
point to FIP, her clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet
FIP. The ER vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that
FeLV+ cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who did
and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP, it is
possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done or that she has
heart problems that will complicate chemo and I can't do it.  But I want to
try, at least, to get a better diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She
is happy to be home for now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey,
probably 10 or 15 little pieces.

Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at least
have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of the others,
though I love them too. she is my love.

Michelle



Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious

2007-01-17 Thread Gloria Lane

I am so sorry, Michelle - prayers coming for Lucy - Gloria


On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lucy's temp spiked to 106.7 tonight so I took her to the ER. They  
did blood work and her HCt is at 18 and her bun and liver enzymes  
are low. They took xrays and it looked to them (ER doctors, who I  
don't really trust to read xrays totally correctly) like she has  
fluid in her abdomen and an enlarged heart. They tapped the fluid  
and could not tell what it is. With IV fluids and some torbutrol  
her temp came down to 100.6 in two hours. I then took her home,  
against their advice, because they did not seem to think they could  
do anything and she was miserable there. I have an appointment for  
7:30 am at Red Bank, the best vet hospital in the state, with an  
oncologist. It is 2 hours away, so we need to leave at 5:30 am.  
Lucy hates car rides, but I want a better diagnosis, and I want it  
from the best people.  Except for the fact that she is still eating  
(probably not normally, but not completely terribly either) and  
alert, and her protein ratio which does not point to FIP, her  
clinical signs and blood work otherwise could mean wet FIP. The ER  
vet thinks it's lymphoma.  She was trying to convince me that FeLV+  
cats dont respond to chemo, even though I told her I had one who  
did and know others with cats who have.  It is possible it is FIP,  
it is possible that it is lymphoma so bad that nothing can be done  
or that she has heart problems that will complicate chemo and I  
can't do it.  But I want to try, at least, to get a better  
diagnosis before deciding all of this.  She is happy to be home for  
now.  She ate a little bit of cooked turkey, probably 10 or 15  
little pieces.


Please pray hard for her.  It does not look good. I hope she can at  
least have some good time left. she is my baby, more than any of  
the others, though I love them too. she is my love.


Michelle