Re: Wrongful death of cat
Three suggestions: Report the matter to the state vet association--not the local one. Contact the Texas version of the Attorney General's Office Comsumer Protection Division (cats are property in most places-ok we know better but the law doesn't). Find out who, in the local media, is a pet lover and have a long conversation with him/her/them. Investigative reporters and let me help reporters/columists can be a lot of help in alerting the general public. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:53 AM Subject: Wrongful death of cat I had to post this because I couldn't believe what I was reading. It is FIV and not FeLV but still this place is supposed to be a humane society and they would treat FeLV in the same way. The message came from a lady on the FIV group and it really did sicken me. If anyone wants to post her with advice I'll get her email address. hello,my name is angela and i am new to the group,sadly i join you under bad cercumstances.i live in pasadena,texas and just yesterday i took my 6 month old cat to the houston humane society's wellness clinic to be tested and recive his shots.they told me he tested positive for fiv and that it was highly contagous and he could not live with it.they said i had to sign him over to them to be put to sleep.i cant even begain to tell you how devistated i was,so reluctintly i gave him to them. later on i was looking around on the net and found out this was not true at all! i even call several vets they all informed me that i had many options other than death.now i am even more devistated,why would the houmane society do this? they never told me i had other options,had they i never would have put him down,i am both heart broken and very mad.i am trying to find out what action if any i can take to make sure they never do this to another cat and person again! if you have any info or idea please let me know,i could really use the help and support! thank you,angela
Re: Wrongful death of cat
Right, it's a hard lesson. But I can understand - people do put so much - too much - trust in vets and organizations that provide care for pets. It's too bad we can't hold vets/orgs. accountable in some way. Very sad. Gloria On Oct 19, 2005, at 3:52 AM, maimaipg wrote: This poor lady. Everyone has options. Just because a vet tells you something does not make it so. I can think of only a couple of times you have to surrender an animal and those times involve vicious animals involved in attacks on people. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:53 AM Subject: Wrongful death of cat I had to post this because I couldn't believe what I was reading. It is FIV and not FeLV but still this place is supposed to be a humane society and they would treat FeLV in the same way. The message came from a lady on the FIV group and it really did sicken me. If anyone wants to post her with advice I'll get her email address. hello,my name is angela and i am new to the group,sadly i join you under bad cercumstances.i live in pasadena,texas and just yesterday i took my 6 month old cat to the houston humane society's wellness clinic to be tested and recive his shots.they told me he tested positive for fiv and that it was highly contagous and he could not live with it.they said i had to sign him over to them to be put to sleep.i cant even begain to tell you how devistated i was,so reluctintly i gave him to them. later on i was looking around on the net and found out this was not true at all! i even call several vets they all informed me that i had many options other than death.now i am even more devistated,why would the houmane society do this? they never told me i had other options,had they i never would have put him down,i am both heart broken and very mad.i am trying to find out what action if any i can take to make sure they never do this to another cat and person again! if you have any info or idea please let me know,i could really use the help and support! thank you,angela
Re: Wrongful death of cat
Tell her to contact her local media and see if they are interested in doing a story. Organizations that want to play GOD need to be reported, especially ones that received most of their funding from animals lovers. As far as I know the HSUS does not recommend automatically euthaization of FIV positive cats (not positive of this though, but I do know someone in Washington state that was shipped a FeLV positive from Louisiana by one of the groups down there, not sure if it was the Humane Society or not, but they looked around for a place to send it instead of euthanizing it). -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Wrongful death of cat
I'm not sure if notifying HSUS will do any good, they are not affiliated in any way with other humane societies. All humane societies are totally independent private non-profit organizations and there are many different philosophies among them. Some are non-kill (like mine) and some are not. Some routinely euthanise FIV and FeLV cats and some do not. Some euthanise just to make room for animals they consider more adoptable. That the Houston Humane Society euthanises FIV cats is not surprising to me but, the advice given to Angela by an organization, that was at the time, sitting in a position of perceived authority, was nothing short of criminal. Especially telling her that she had to give them the cat to be euthanised. I doubt you could get any criminal charges brought but, I do think it is civilly actionable against the HHS and the person that gave her the false information. I emailed the executive director and voiced my opinion of this type of action, so far, no reply. Gary - Original Message - From: maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Wrongful death of cat The way I read it was that she was told she HAD to give the cat up, not that they recommended it. If I read it correctly the HSUS needs to be notified also. Any way you look at it, the cat got a bum deal and so did her person. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Wrongful death of cat Tell her to contact her local media and see if they are interested in doing a story. Organizations that want to play GOD need to be reported, especially ones that received most of their funding from animals lovers. As far as I know the HSUS does not recommend automatically euthaization of FIV positive cats (not positive of this though, but I do know someone in Washington state that was shipped a FeLV positive from Louisiana by one of the groups down there, not sure if it was the Humane Society or not, but they looked around for a place to send it instead of euthanizing it). -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com __ NOD32 1.1261 (20051019) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com
Re: Wrongful death of cat
The 1st time I brought a rescue in that tested POS my vet said that ethically he had to advise me to PTS...I didn't say anything for a minute and he said he would give me a few minutes and walked out of the room...When he came back I said I don't think I can do that...He knew I had a number of NEG. cats in my house...I asked him what I could doHis face lit up and he sat down with me and work up a plan on how I could divide my house and keep the FeLV+ cats with very little risk to my NEG. cats I think most vets would rather not PTS healthy catsbut he did need to know that I was willing to make a commitment to prevent the spread of the disease I think some states have their own laws governing this tooAnd also read the fine print if you bring a cat to a vet using county backed money such as low cost neuter...You maybe signing away your rights to say no to PTS Tad Gloria Lane wrote: Me too...grab kitty and run. On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Great Suggestions, she definately needs to bring someones attention to this. I think if someone said I HAD to surrender any of my catsI would grab the cat and run...now that poses a pretty funny picture in my mind ;-)) maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three suggestions: Report the matter to the state vet association--not the local one. Contact the Texas version of the Attorney General's Office Comsumer Protection Division (cats are property in most places- ok we know better but the law doesn't). Find out who, in the local media, is a pet lover and have a long conversation with him/her/them. Investigative reporters and let me help reporters/columists can be a lot of help in alerting the general public. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:53 AM Subject: Wrongful death of cat I had to post this because I couldn't believe what I was reading. It is FIV and not FeLV but still this place is supposed to be a humane society and they would treat FeLV in the same way. The message came from a lady on the FIV group and it really did sicken me. If anyone wants to post her with advice I'll get her email address. hello,my name is angela and i am new to the group,sadly i join you under bad cercumstances.i live in pasadena,texas and just yesterday i took my 6 month old cat to the houston humane society's wellness clinic to be tested and recive his shots.they told me he tested positive for fiv and that it was highly contagous and he could not live with it.they said i had to sign him over to them to be put to sleep.i cant even begain to tell you how devistated i was,so reluctintly i gave him to them. later on i was looking around on the net and found out this was not true at all! i even call several vets they all informed me that i had many options other than death.now i am even more devistated,why would the houmane society do this? they never told me i had other options,had they i never would have put him down,i am both heart broken and very mad.i am trying to find out what action if any i can take to make sure they never do this to another cat and person again! if you have any info or idea please let me know,i could really use the help and support! thank you,angela Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Wrongful death of cat
I know my vets were relieved when I decided not to kill Dixie Louise because she tested positive. She was a throw away without a name when I took her in to be spayed. They tested her because I was going to take her to my farm when the house is finished and, unfortunately, she tested positive. They kept her for a few days while I thought things out and found a way to keep her away from Kitty and still not turn her loose with the other ferals/throw aways. She is living in the garage for the time being, doing very well and they are working with me to keep her healthy. They have been great. Even figured out how to spay her and take care of her post op without exposing other cats or putting her in a kennel where she would hear dogs. By the way, she did not need to be spayed. They could not find a spay scar but humored me when I asked for a blood hormone test to make sure she was intact. She had been spayed by a previous caregiver. The test is expensive but well worth it for a cat that is FeLV + or has any other problem that the stress of surgery could aggravate (providing there is some reason to believe the cat may have been spayed). - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Wrongful death of cat The 1st time I brought a rescue in that tested POS my vet said that ethically he had to advise me to PTS...I didn't say anything for a minute and he said he would give me a few minutes and walked out of the room...When he came back I said I don't think I can do that...He knew I had a number of NEG. cats in my house...I asked him what I could doHis face lit up and he sat down with me and work up a plan on how I could divide my house and keep the FeLV+ cats with very little risk to my NEG. cats I think most vets would rather not PTS healthy catsbut he did need to know that I was willing to make a commitment to prevent the spread of the disease I think some states have their own laws governing this tooAnd also read the fine print if you bring a cat to a vet using county backed money such as low cost neuter...You maybe signing away your rights to say no to PTS Tad Gloria Lane wrote: Me too...grab kitty and run. On Oct 19, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Great Suggestions, she definately needs to bring someones attention to this. I think if someone said I HAD to surrender any of my catsI would grab the cat and run...now that poses a pretty funny picture in my mind ;-)) maimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three suggestions: Report the matter to the state vet association--not the local one. Contact the Texas version of the Attorney General's Office Comsumer Protection Division (cats are property in most places- ok we know better but the law doesn't). Find out who, in the local media, is a pet lover and have a long conversation with him/her/them. Investigative reporters and let me help reporters/columists can be a lot of help in alerting the general public. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:53 AM Subject: Wrongful death of cat I had to post this because I couldn't believe what I was reading. It is FIV and not FeLV but still this place is supposed to be a humane society and they would treat FeLV in the same way. The message came from a lady on the FIV group and it really did sicken me. If anyone wants to post her with advice I'll get her email address. hello,my name is angela and i am new to the group,sadly i join you under bad cercumstances.i live in pasadena,texas and just yesterday i took my 6 month old cat to the houston humane society's wellness clinic to be tested and recive his shots.they told me he tested positive for fiv and that it was highly contagous and he could not live with it.they said i had to sign him over to them to be put to sleep.i cant even begain to tell you how devistated i was,so reluctintly i gave him to them. later on i was looking around on the net and found out this was not true at all! i even call several vets they all informed me that i had many options other than death.now i am even more devistated,why would the houmane society do this? they never told me i had other options,had they i never would have put him down,i am both heart broken and very mad.i am trying to find out what action if any i can take to make sure they never do this to another cat and person again! if you have any info or idea please let me know,i could really use the help and support! thank you,angela Have a purrfect day Cherie
