Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread Lernermichelle




kerry,
 is the blood red blood on the outside of the stool or is the 
stool black? if it is the former, the combination of symptoms could be 
ibd.

michelle

In a message dated 10/17/2006 6:42:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi 
  everyone
  Please know that though I'm not able to be on the 
  list all the time at present, and have to go away again soon, all your 
  furbabies are always in my thoughts, and I especially send positive thoughts 
  for those that aren't doing so well. As always, I send my condolences to 
  everyone who has lost a beloved kitty.
  My 
  beloved foster cat, Kitty,who went to her new home a few weeks ago, 
  while being treated at the same time for diarrhea, has had a recurrence of the 
  same symptoms, and I'm worried about her. Here's what her new mom 
  says:
  
  "She is vomiting clear liquid, not eating as 
  much and there was a small amt of blood in her stool this morning too. I 
  talked with Robin (from PAWS) and she said the thing that worried her the most 
  was the lack of appetite. I called my vet and she said the same thing, 
  we're going to go in on Thurs AM and run the full gamet of tests- just to be 
  on the safe side. Although, Robin mentioned this was the same type of 
  symptoms she had before with you. 
  True? 
  The Vet wasn't worried so much and thought theThursday time was fine enough unless things 
  seem to worsen. like I said she's still hydrated, I've seen her drink 
  and she's been playing."
  Does 
  anyone have any idea what these symptoms may mean? She did have all those 
  symptoms while with me (I rushed her to the vet). Also, can someone confirm 
  what I believe to be the case: that it's unsafe for a cat to go even one day 
  without eating. Kitty was very hard to assist feed, and I'm afraid that her 
  new mom may not realize how very important it is to get food inside her (it 
  doesn't seem like the vet paid much attention to the lack of appetite and 
  associated danger in letting it go on). I want to email her mom, but back it 
  up with facts, and what the consequences of Kitty not eating can/will 
  be.
  Grateful for any information that i can pass 
  on.
  Kerry M.




RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




Michelle: The new mom just said 
"there was a small amt of blood in her stool".
But I'm going to try and get more info 
today---she was scheduled to go to vet today.
Kerry


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kerry,
 is the blood red blood on the outside of the stool or is the 
stool black? if it is the former, the combination of symptoms could be 
ibd.

michelle

In a message dated 10/17/2006 6:42:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi 
  everyone
  Please know 
  that though I'm not able to be on the list all the time at present, and have 
  to go away again soon, all your furbabies are always in my thoughts, and I 
  especially send positive thoughts for those that aren't doing so well. As 
  always, I send my condolences to everyone who has lost a beloved 
  kitty.
  My beloved 
  foster cat, Kitty,who went to her new home a few weeks ago, while being 
  treated at the same time for diarrhea, has had a recurrence of the same 
  symptoms, and I'm worried about her. Here's what her new mom 
  says:
  
  "She is vomiting clear liquid, not eating as 
  much and there was a small amt of blood in her stool this morning too. I 
  talked with Robin (from PAWS) and she said the thing that worried her the most 
  was the lack of appetite. I called my vet and she said the same thing, 
  we're going to go in on Thurs AM and run the full gamet of tests- just to be 
  on the safe side. Although, Robin mentioned this was the same type of 
  symptoms she had before with you. 
  True? 
  The Vet wasn't worried so much and thought theThursday time was fine enough unless things 
  seem to worsen. like I said she's still hydrated, I've seen her drink 
  and she's been playing."
  Does 
  anyone have any idea what these symptoms may mean? She did have all those 
  symptoms while with me (I rushed her to the vet). Also, can someone confirm 
  what I believe to be the case: that it's unsafe for a cat to go even one day 
  without eating. Kitty was very hard to assist feed, and I'm afraid that her 
  new mom may not realize how very important it is to get food inside her (it 
  doesn't seem like the vet paid much attention to the lack of appetite and 
  associated danger in letting it go on). I want to email her mom, but back it 
  up with facts, and what the consequences of Kitty not eating can/will 
  be.
  Grateful for any information that i can pass 
  on.
  Kerry M.



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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread Nina
I've been told that a small amount of red blood at the tip of a stool 
can be an indication of stress.  Try to find out more specifics about 
it.  If you can't go to the vet visit with Megan, try and impress upon 
her how important it is to get to the bottom of Kitty's symptoms and to 
treat them promptly.  Did the adoption contract specify that you have a 
right to take Kitty back if you think it necessary?  I know you don't 
want to alienate the new mom, but you might have to start being more 
firm in your approach.

Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

Michelle: The new mom just said there was a small amt of blood in her 
stool.
But I'm going to try and get more info today---she was scheduled to go 
to vet today.

Kerry






RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread Chris
When I first brought Romeo in, he was so scared that I know he was afraid to
go to the box as often as he wanted to.  Well, I noticed small drops of
blood on the edge of the box and got a bit nervous.  Turns out, he just had
become really constipated and problem sort of solved itself when I made sure
he was able to freely go to the box without being so scared.  I had talked
to vet though.  Maybe the little one is a bit stressed out???

Chris
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I've been told that a small amount of red blood at the tip of a stool 
can be an indication of stress.  Try to find out more specifics about 
it.  If you can't go to the vet visit with Megan, try and impress upon 
her how important it is to get to the bottom of Kitty's symptoms and to 
treat them promptly.  Did the adoption contract specify that you have a 
right to take Kitty back if you think it necessary?  I know you don't 
want to alienate the new mom, but you might have to start being more 
firm in your approach.
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

 Michelle: The new mom just said there was a small amt of blood in her 
 stool.
 But I'm going to try and get more info today---she was scheduled to go 
 to vet today.
 Kerry







RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Chris--she's also throwing up drool--foamy drool. Been doing that for
about a month. And her stool has been misshapen for same time. All info
appreciated. I haven't heard back from the new mom yet about Kitty's vet
visit today.
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When I first brought Romeo in, he was so scared that I know he was
afraid to
go to the box as often as he wanted to.  Well, I noticed small drops of
blood on the edge of the box and got a bit nervous.  Turns out, he just
had
become really constipated and problem sort of solved itself when I made
sure
he was able to freely go to the box without being so scared.  I had
talked
to vet though.  Maybe the little one is a bit stressed out???

Chris
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

I've been told that a small amount of red blood at the tip of a stool 
can be an indication of stress.  Try to find out more specifics about 
it.  If you can't go to the vet visit with Megan, try and impress upon 
her how important it is to get to the bottom of Kitty's symptoms and to 
treat them promptly.  Did the adoption contract specify that you have a 
right to take Kitty back if you think it necessary?  I know you don't 
want to alienate the new mom, but you might have to start being more 
firm in your approach.
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

 Michelle: The new mom just said there was a small amt of blood in her

 stool.
 But I'm going to try and get more info today---she was scheduled to go

 to vet today.
 Kerry
 
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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread Lernermichelle




soundsa like ibd to me. is she positive for felv? is she eating and keeping 
weight on ok? intestinal lymphoma is a worry if she is positive and is also 
wasting. though that can also be ibd.
michelle

In a message dated 10/19/2006 1:48:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chris--she's also throwing up drool--foamy drool. Been doing that 
  forabout a month. And her stool has been misshapen for same time. All 
  infoappreciated. I haven't heard back from the new mom yet about Kitty's 
  vetvisit today.




RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




She is a very bony cat---she was lightweight 
from the time she arrived. She had an ok appetite while with me, but then when 
the vomiting of foamy drool  diarrhea started her appetite went 
down.
The only answer I got when I asked 
thePAWS peopleabout her boniness was "it's her age" (she's 130. The 
vet didn't seem surprised by her weight either. 
No felv as far as I know. 
I'll look up ibd symptoms. Thanks 
guys.


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soundsa like ibd to me. is she positive for felv? is she eating and keeping 
weight on ok? intestinal lymphoma is a worry if she is positive and is also 
wasting. though that can also be ibd.
michelle

In a message dated 10/19/2006 1:48:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chris--she's also throwing up 
  drool--foamy drool. Been doing that forabout a month. And her stool has 
  been misshapen for same time. All infoappreciated. I haven't heard back 
  from the new mom yet about Kitty's vetvisit today.



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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread Lernermichelle




in that case, given her age, i would suspect hyperthyroid or ibd. or 
potentially kidney problems, but she would probably be drinking and urinating a 
lot then,

michelle

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  She is a very bony cat---she was 
  lightweight from the time she arrived. She had an ok appetite while with me, 
  but then when the vomiting of foamy drool  diarrhea started her appetite 
  went down.
  The only answer I got when I asked 
  thePAWS peopleabout her boniness was "it's her age" (she's 130. 
  The vet didn't seem surprised by her weight either. 
  No felv as far as I know. 
  I'll look up ibd symptoms. Thanks 
  guys.




Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-19 Thread Belinda

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RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?






I'm concerned about my former foster cat Kitty--the new mom just emailed me the following. 

Could she be feverish? All info appreciated, and will forward it to her.

(The vet's attitude worries me. Kitty's been vomiting drool for over a month. Clearly something is wrong.)

Thanks everyone, Kerry


This morning she had again vomited twice. She doesn't seem to be ailing, although she is considerably more clingy than usual. Also, something my mom noticed... her ears are really quite warm. Could that be a sign of a fever or something? Can cats get fevers?? She is still hydrated as well. Definitely less aggressive towards Alex though- which in all of this worrying is actually nice. Her stool is soft but not diarrhea like. 

The vet said nothing to really worry about (unless vomiting increases or she quits eating) but I'm bringing her in on thurs AM as I had an appt then anyway for Alex's annual. 

I did give her a 1/4 tab of Pepcid though to soothe her tummy if it was just a little upset. 

Thats the story as of right now. Thanks for all of your suggestions and concern. She is proving to be a trooper definitely.




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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread Nina

Hi Kerry,
I can understand your concern about Kitty.  Her symptoms are troubling 
to me too.  How old is she again?  If this had just started, then I 
might think it had to do with the stress of her new home and not so 
friendly attitude between cats.  I would feel better if the vet this 
woman was seeing seemed more competent.  Granted, everyone on this list 
has red flag hair triggers, but...  It does sound like the new mom is 
concerned and keeping an eye on the situation, although the question 
about whether cats get fevers is an indicator about how little 
experience she's had with sick kitties.  Would she be willing to take 
Kitty to a vet that you trust?


I know first hand how difficult it is to let go of the responsibility we 
feel toward foster fur kids.  There is only so much you can do at this 
point though.  I'm glad that the new mom seems open to your 
intervention.  Have you paid Kitty a visit in the past few days?  
Perhaps she wouldn't mind if you went with her to your vet.  If it were 
me, I'd go have a look at Kitty and see what my impressions are.  
Remember Vladimir's story?


Prayers that Miss Kitty feels better soon,
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

I'm concerned about my former foster cat Kitty--the new mom just 
emailed me the following.

Could she be feverish? All info appreciated, and will forward it to her.
(The vet's attitude worries me. Kitty's been vomiting drool for over a 
month. Clearly something is wrong.)

Thanks everyone, Kerry

/This morning she had again vomited twice.  She doesn't seem to be 
ailing, although she is considerably more clingy than usual.  Also, 
something my mom noticed... her ears are really quite warm.  Could 
that be a sign of a fever or something?  Can cats get fevers??  She is 
still hydrated as well.  Definitely less aggressive towards Alex 
though- which in all of this worrying is actually nice.  Her stool is 
soft but not diarrhea like.  /


/The vet said nothing to really worry about (unless vomiting increases 
or she quits eating) but I'm bringing her in on thurs AM as I had an 
appt then anyway for Alex's annual. /


/I did give her a 1/4 tab of Pepcid though to soothe her tummy if it 
was just a little upset. /
/Thats the story as of right now.  Thanks for all of your suggestions 
and concern.  She is proving to be a trooper definitely./







RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks Nina, warm ears do mean fever, don't they? Kerry
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Hi Kerry,
I can understand your concern about Kitty.  Her symptoms are troubling 
to me too.  How old is she again?  If this had just started, then I 
might think it had to do with the stress of her new home and not so 
friendly attitude between cats.  I would feel better if the vet this 
woman was seeing seemed more competent.  Granted, everyone on this list 
has red flag hair triggers, but...  It does sound like the new mom is 
concerned and keeping an eye on the situation, although the question 
about whether cats get fevers is an indicator about how little 
experience she's had with sick kitties.  Would she be willing to take 
Kitty to a vet that you trust?

I know first hand how difficult it is to let go of the responsibility we

feel toward foster fur kids.  There is only so much you can do at this 
point though.  I'm glad that the new mom seems open to your 
intervention.  Have you paid Kitty a visit in the past few days?  
Perhaps she wouldn't mind if you went with her to your vet.  If it were 
me, I'd go have a look at Kitty and see what my impressions are.  
Remember Vladimir's story?

Prayers that Miss Kitty feels better soon,
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

 I'm concerned about my former foster cat Kitty--the new mom just 
 emailed me the following.
 Could she be feverish? All info appreciated, and will forward it to
her.
 (The vet's attitude worries me. Kitty's been vomiting drool for over a

 month. Clearly something is wrong.)
 Thanks everyone, Kerry

 /This morning she had again vomited twice.  She doesn't seem to be 
 ailing, although she is considerably more clingy than usual.  Also, 
 something my mom noticed... her ears are really quite warm.  Could 
 that be a sign of a fever or something?  Can cats get fevers??  She is

 still hydrated as well.  Definitely less aggressive towards Alex 
 though- which in all of this worrying is actually nice.  Her stool is 
 soft but not diarrhea like.  /

 /The vet said nothing to really worry about (unless vomiting increases

 or she quits eating) but I'm bringing her in on thurs AM as I had an 
 appt then anyway for Alex's annual. /

 /I did give her a 1/4 tab of Pepcid though to soothe her tummy if it 
 was just a little upset. /
 /Thats the story as of right now.  Thanks for all of your suggestions 
 and concern.  She is proving to be a trooper definitely./

 
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RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Not necessarily --- some kitties have warm ears with normal temperature
-- I just rescued a feral boy, Tony-- and his ears are really warm, and
I checked his temperature and it was 100.7 -- normal -- one time I asked
my vet about it.. she said it all depends.. how about the nose?  Are
they dried?

Vomiting can be or is not any serious problems,, I have a cat who vomits
all the time, and they couldn't find anything wrong -- does she eat
okay?  Did she lose any weights?  Could be psychological or emotional,
too?  Have them do the blood work to make sure that all her organs are
okay..

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Kerry N.
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Thanks Nina, warm ears do mean fever, don't they? Kerry
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Hi Kerry,
I can understand your concern about Kitty.  Her symptoms are troubling 
to me too.  How old is she again?  If this had just started, then I 
might think it had to do with the stress of her new home and not so 
friendly attitude between cats.  I would feel better if the vet this 
woman was seeing seemed more competent.  Granted, everyone on this list 
has red flag hair triggers, but...  It does sound like the new mom is 
concerned and keeping an eye on the situation, although the question 
about whether cats get fevers is an indicator about how little 
experience she's had with sick kitties.  Would she be willing to take 
Kitty to a vet that you trust?

I know first hand how difficult it is to let go of the responsibility we

feel toward foster fur kids.  There is only so much you can do at this 
point though.  I'm glad that the new mom seems open to your 
intervention.  Have you paid Kitty a visit in the past few days?  
Perhaps she wouldn't mind if you went with her to your vet.  If it were 
me, I'd go have a look at Kitty and see what my impressions are.  
Remember Vladimir's story?

Prayers that Miss Kitty feels better soon,
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

 I'm concerned about my former foster cat Kitty--the new mom just 
 emailed me the following.
 Could she be feverish? All info appreciated, and will forward it to
her.
 (The vet's attitude worries me. Kitty's been vomiting drool for over a

 month. Clearly something is wrong.)
 Thanks everyone, Kerry

 /This morning she had again vomited twice.  She doesn't seem to be 
 ailing, although she is considerably more clingy than usual.  Also, 
 something my mom noticed... her ears are really quite warm.  Could 
 that be a sign of a fever or something?  Can cats get fevers??  She is

 still hydrated as well.  Definitely less aggressive towards Alex 
 though- which in all of this worrying is actually nice.  Her stool is 
 soft but not diarrhea like.  /

 /The vet said nothing to really worry about (unless vomiting increases

 or she quits eating) but I'm bringing her in on thurs AM as I had an 
 appt then anyway for Alex's annual. /

 /I did give her a 1/4 tab of Pepcid though to soothe her tummy if it 
 was just a little upset. /
 /Thats the story as of right now.  Thanks for all of your suggestions 
 and concern.  She is proving to be a trooper definitely./

 
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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread Nina
Not necessarily.  Cat's temps are warmer than ours in their normal 
state, so she may not be able to gage if her ears are too warm.  I 
make a habit of touching their ears etc when I know they are feeling 
good so I have a better idea when things are off.  The only way to truly 
tell is to take their temp, and I would not suggest that the new mom try 
that.

Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:


Thanks Nina, warm ears do mean fever, don't they? Kerry






RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks hon.

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Not necessarily.  Cat's temps are warmer than ours in their normal 
state, so she may not be able to gage if her ears are too warm.  I 
make a habit of touching their ears etc when I know they are feeling 
good so I have a better idea when things are off.  The only way to truly

tell is to take their temp, and I would not suggest that the new mom try

that.
Nina

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Thanks Nina, warm ears do mean fever, don't they? Kerry

 
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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-17 Thread Marylyn
If the vet doesn't get it find another vet.  This has gone on too long 
without an explanation.  The thing is to catch problems while they can still 
be handled.  I have taken too many critters to the vet just because 
something didn't feel right in my stomach.  I have rarely been wrong and in 
several cases delays could/would have cost lives.








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Thanks Nina, warm ears do mean fever, don't they? Kerry
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Hi Kerry,
I can understand your concern about Kitty.  Her symptoms are troubling
to me too.  How old is she again?  If this had just started, then I
might think it had to do with the stress of her new home and not so
friendly attitude between cats.  I would feel better if the vet this
woman was seeing seemed more competent.  Granted, everyone on this list
has red flag hair triggers, but...  It does sound like the new mom is
concerned and keeping an eye on the situation, although the question
about whether cats get fevers is an indicator about how little
experience she's had with sick kitties.  Would she be willing to take
Kitty to a vet that you trust?

I know first hand how difficult it is to let go of the responsibility we

feel toward foster fur kids.  There is only so much you can do at this
point though.  I'm glad that the new mom seems open to your
intervention.  Have you paid Kitty a visit in the past few days?
Perhaps she wouldn't mind if you went with her to your vet.  If it were
me, I'd go have a look at Kitty and see what my impressions are.
Remember Vladimir's story?

Prayers that Miss Kitty feels better soon,
Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:


I'm concerned about my former foster cat Kitty--the new mom just
emailed me the following.
Could she be feverish? All info appreciated, and will forward it to

her.

(The vet's attitude worries me. Kitty's been vomiting drool for over a



month. Clearly something is wrong.)
Thanks everyone, Kerry

/This morning she had again vomited twice.  She doesn't seem to be
ailing, although she is considerably more clingy than usual.  Also,
something my mom noticed... her ears are really quite warm.  Could
that be a sign of a fever or something?  Can cats get fevers??  She is



still hydrated as well.  Definitely less aggressive towards Alex
though- which in all of this worrying is actually nice.  Her stool is
soft but not diarrhea like.  /

/The vet said nothing to really worry about (unless vomiting increases



or she quits eating) but I'm bringing her in on thurs AM as I had an
appt then anyway for Alex's annual. /

/I did give her a 1/4 tab of Pepcid though to soothe her tummy if it
was just a little upset. /
/Thats the story as of right now.  Thanks for all of your suggestions
and concern.  She is proving to be a trooper definitely./



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RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-16 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Title: Message



One very serious effect of not eating *can* be hepatic 
lipidosis (fatty liver disease) which can, if untreated,kill 
them.

Diane R.


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Kerry N.Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:58 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: o/t familiar with these 
symptoms?


Hi 
everyone
Please 
know that though I'm not able to be on the list all the time at present, and 
have to go away again soon, all your furbabies are always in my thoughts, and I 
especially send positive thoughts for those that aren't doing so well. As 
always, I send my condolences to everyone who has lost a beloved 
kitty.
My 
beloved foster cat, Kitty,who went to her new home a few weeks ago, while 
being treated at the same time for diarrhea, has had a recurrence of the same 
symptoms, and I'm worried about her. Here's what her new mom 
says:

"She is vomiting clear liquid, not eating as 
much and there was a small amt of blood in her stool this morning too. I 
talked with Robin (from PAWS) and she said the thing that worried her the most 
was the lack of appetite. I called my vet and she said the same thing, 
we're going to go in on Thurs AM and run the full gamet of tests- just to be on 
the safe side. Although, Robin mentioned this was the same type of 
symptoms she had before with you. 
True? The 
Vet wasn't worried so much and thought theThursday time was fine enough unless things seem 
to worsen. like I said she's still hydrated, I've seen her drink and she's 
been playing."
Does 
anyone have any idea what these symptoms may mean? She did have all those 
symptoms while with me (I rushed her to the vet). Also, can someone confirm what 
I believe to be the case: that it's unsafe for a cat to go even one day without 
eating. Kitty was very hard to assist feed, and I'm afraid that her new mom may 
not realize how very important it is to get food inside her (it doesn't seem 
like the vet paid much attention to the lack of appetite and associated danger 
in letting it go on). I want to email her mom, but back it up with facts, and 
what the consequences of Kitty not eating can/will be.
Grateful for any information that i can pass 
on.
Kerry 
M.


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RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks so much Belinda!

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Kerry,
 I can find more if you need them:

http://www.eattheapple.com/sandra/

http://www.cathospitalofaustin.com/Library/hepatic_lipidosis.htm
(this one specifies obese cats but it can happen with any cat)

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_hepatic_lipidosis.html
(this one tells how even a cat eating, though not it's normal amount can

develop this problem)

http://www.vetinfo.com/cencyclopedia/cehepatlip.html
(this one say's not eating for 3 days, but I know of cats that it took 
less time)

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Re: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-16 Thread Belinda
Kerry in all fairness, cats that get HL after only a day or two of 
not eating anything probably haven't been eating well for a few days and 
it wasn't noticed until they stopped eating.  Unless you weigh your 
kitties regularly most people aren't going to notice that their cat 
isn't eating as good right away, especially if you have a multi-cat 
household.  I weigh the cats I know don't eat as good as the others 
about once a week and keep a close eye on the rest just because I've had 
to deal with HL before.

this one say's not eating for 3 days, but I know of cats that it took less time


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RE: o/t familiar with these symptoms?

2006-10-16 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Thanks again Belinda!

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 Kerry in all fairness, cats that get HL after only a day or two of 
not eating anything probably haven't been eating well for a few days and

it wasn't noticed until they stopped eating.  Unless you weigh your 
kitties regularly most people aren't going to notice that their cat 
isn't eating as good right away, especially if you have a multi-cat 
household.  I weigh the cats I know don't eat as good as the others 
about once a week and keep a close eye on the rest just because I've had

to deal with HL before.
 this one say's not eating for 3 days, but I know of cats that it took
less time

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