Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
Karen - I have been helping a lady who is being evicted on the 10th of January. I took a kitten and 3 adults from her all testing negative. 2 other cats taken tested FeLV strong positive. One was euthanised as he was about 15 and not well. The other is a healthy 6 year old neutered male. He is being held for one month in a foster home. If no home is found in that month he will be euthanised (not my choice). We are desperately seeking a home for him with another playmate. We are willing to get him a general health check, donate to future medical bills, and do whatever else is needed to get him adopted (including transport). If you would like to give him a home with your kitty, please let me know and I can give you more info. After all this lady has been through , I hate to see her baby euthanised. Beth Hemann (404) 584-7430 Karen & Phil Masaoka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I'm Karen - I'm new here. I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I feel so sad for you guys. We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every year (we also lost Max a year ago). My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? I think this is a great support group. Karen __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
I don't know. all mine were a year or two old when tested. I have lost them at all different ages. I think it just depends on the cats. It might be true that it makes a difference if they are born with it versus contracting it after the first weeks, though, since they have at least developed some immune system at that point. So glad you are adopting, though! and wishing him a long, healthy, happy life with you and Lil Abner! :) Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 7:58:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have decided to go with a 4-yr-old FELV+ male who, I think, has a better chance at living for longer than a year. A common belief seems to be that kittens and younger ones will only live 2-3 years. Hopefully he contracted it as an adult, & can fend off the disease for a longer time.
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
To be fair, I did not knowingly mix my non-vaccinated negatives with a known positive. I did not test for many years, and didn't KNOW Moogie was positive. Regardless, none of the non-vaccinated cats contracted the FELV, even with mutual grooming happening all the time. That was 18 months of exposure to FELV to all my non-vaccinated cats, NO transmission. Would I do it again? Probably not with my newer cats that haven't already been exposed and thus proven naturally immune. Would I put the same cats that lived with Moogie in with another FELV+, yes, sure I would, they have proven themselves long since immune. So, it's not really "bravery" on my part, mixing non-vaccinated cats with FELV+ cats, more of a result of lack of knowledge on my part that fortunately worked out in the end. Phaewryn Donations Needed for Whitey's emergency Vet Care! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html DONATE VIA PAYPAL: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=seething%40vtlink%2enet&item_name=DONATION%20to%20Whitey%20Veterinary%20Bill%20Fund 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
RE: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
I guess we have to wait till more proof comes in on the vaccine. We have decided to go with a 4-yr-old FELV+ male who, I think, has a better chance at living for longer than a year. A common belief seems to be that kittens and younger ones will only live 2-3 years. Hopefully he contracted it as an adult, & can fend off the disease for a longer time. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner i just think that if there were any cases where a cat was KNOWN to be negative, from both snap and IFA tests, and then became positive from living with a positive, we would have heard about it by now. i know that i definitely went into this whole thing believing in the only-85%-efficacy rate of the vaccine, and would never have considered mixing positives and negatives. i think i was LOOKING for documented proof, actually, and have been surprised that after all these years no one's been able to point out a case to me. but i agree that it's everyone's individual choice. if i could afford to vaccinate everyone, and had the room, i would probably be willing to have a FeLV with my others, but i am decidedly NOT brave enough to do what many others have chosen to do, which is to have unvaccinated negatives with definite positives. there's just not enough research out there in terms of what other predisposing factors might make a cat more susceptible to retaining the virus... it really does get confusing, doesn't it? back when brownee had just died from leukemia and we were waiting to retest all the rest of the cats in the house, i was just about to take in a kitty with paralyzed rear legs. i of course immediately called the woman who had him, to tell her i couldn't take him because of the possibility of there being FeLV in the house. she was a vet, and she told me i had nothing to worry about, that she'd give pee-wee his full series of shots before she brought him to me and i'd have nothing to worry about even if others in the house had it i still thought you could get FeLV by having an outdoor cat breathe through a screen door at one of the house cats, so this was absolute heresy to me at the time you have to wonder--she was fairly young, and a professor at the local vet school so still tuned into current research and developments--how much newer information is out there that just doesn't make it to our neighborhood vets' offices? how come someone on this list can spend an afternoon and come up with figures on the reliability of snap tests, but vets and shelters don't seem to know the statistics? sigh. On 12/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: ok, so it may be hard to definitively prove that a negative cat, after being vaccinated, became positive. But it can't be proved they haven't, either, so if someone wants to be safe and not mix I would not discourage that. I don't criticize anyone for mixing who does, but I also don't think anyone should be trying to convince someone who is hesitant that there is no way the negative can turn positive from exposure. You just don't know that, and there are some cases that indicate, potentially if not definitively, that they can. Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:46:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ah, but the issue is, "truly negative"--not only are snap tests not that reliable even when done correctly (which isn't always the case at shelters), but unless one knows for sure that any given cat couldn't possibly have been in contact with a positive cat for at least 90 days before a test, you can't really know that a negative test is accurate anyway. that's why retesting is so vital. shelters around here, until recently, only used the old-style saliva tests, which are incredibly unreliable--we brought an absolute sweetheart of a tortie into the house from there, and tho she'd tested negative (and had 4 supposedly healthy kittens, and nursed another 4 orphans), she ended up being diagnosed positive when she became very ill at about 18 months, and went to the bridge soon afterwards. in the household with her had been two kittens who'd only been about 3-months-old when they joined the household, as well as a couple of quite elderly cats--both high-risk populations, and none of the others in the household ever tested positive, luckily! (the 3-month-olds are now going on seven) the need for retesting was just not clearly enough understood, nor was the great variability in accuracy in snap tests (i think susan h found research showing a range of errors from 20-80%!). i know of two sanctuaries that never retested their "positives," who have since begun doing so, and have discovered that a fair number of their ol
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
i just think that if there were any cases where a cat was KNOWN to be negative, from both snap and IFA tests, and then became positive from living with a positive, we would have heard about it by now. i know that i definitely went into this whole thing believing in the only-85%-efficacy rate of the vaccine, and would never have considered mixing positives and negatives. i think i was LOOKING for documented proof, actually, and have been surprised that after all these years no one's been able to point out a case to me. but i agree that it's everyone's individual choice. if i could afford to vaccinate everyone, and had the room, i would probably be willing to have a FeLV with my others, but i am decidedly NOT brave enough to do what many others have chosen to do, which is to have unvaccinated negatives with definite positives. there's just not enough research out there in terms of what other predisposing factors might make a cat more susceptible to retaining the virus... it really does get confusing, doesn't it? back when brownee had just died from leukemia and we were waiting to retest all the rest of the cats in the house, i was just about to take in a kitty with paralyzed rear legs. i of course immediately called the woman who had him, to tell her i couldn't take him because of the possibility of there being FeLV in the house. she was a vet, and she told me i had nothing to worry about, that she'd give pee-wee his full series of shots before she brought him to me and i'd have nothing to worry about even if others in the house had it i still thought you could get FeLV by having an outdoor cat breathe through a screen door at one of the house cats, so this was absolute heresy to me at the time you have to wonder--she was fairly young, and a professor at the local vet school so still tuned into current research and developments--how much newer information is out there that just doesn't make it to our neighborhood vets' offices? how come someone on this list can spend an afternoon and come up with figures on the reliability of snap tests, but vets and shelters don't seem to know the statistics? sigh. On 12/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ok, so it may be hard to definitively prove that a negative cat, after being vaccinated, became positive. But it can't be proved they haven't, either, so if someone wants to be safe and not mix I would not discourage that. I don't criticize anyone for mixing who does, but I also don't think anyone should be trying to convince someone who is hesitant that there is no way the negative can turn positive from exposure. You just don't know that, and there are some cases that indicate, potentially if not definitively, that they can. Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:46:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ah, but the issue is, "truly negative"--not only are snap tests not that reliable even when done correctly (which isn't always the case at shelters), but unless one knows for sure that any given cat couldn't possibly have been in contact with a positive cat for at least 90 days before a test, you can't really know that a negative test is accurate anyway. that's why retesting is so vital. shelters around here, until recently, only used the old-style saliva tests, which are incredibly unreliable--we brought an absolute sweetheart of a tortie into the house from there, and tho she'd tested negative (and had 4 supposedly healthy kittens, and nursed another 4 orphans), she ended up being diagnosed positive when she became very ill at about 18 months, and went to the bridge soon afterwards. in the household with her had been two kittens who'd only been about 3-months-old when they joined the household, as well as a couple of quite elderly cats--both high-risk populations, and none of the others in the household ever tested positive, luckily! (the 3-month-olds are now going on seven) the need for retesting was just not clearly enough understood, nor was the great variability in accuracy in snap tests (i think susan h found research showing a range of errors from 20-80%!). i know of two sanctuaries that never retested their "positives," who have since begun doing so, and have discovered that a fair number of their older cats who have lived exclusively with FeLVs, often those with active disease, and who have had their own bouts of serious illnesses thought to be FeLV-related, who actually were found to be negative on the IFA, even after years of constant exposure -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
ok, so it may be hard to definitively prove that a negative cat, after being vaccinated, became positive. But it can't be proved they haven't, either, so if someone wants to be safe and not mix I would not discourage that. I don't criticize anyone for mixing who does, but I also don't think anyone should be trying to convince someone who is hesitant that there is no way the negative can turn positive from exposure. You just don't know that, and there are some cases that indicate, potentially if not definitively, that they can. Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:46:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ah, but the issue is, "truly negative"--not only are snap tests not that reliable even when done correctly (which isn't always the case at shelters), but unless one knows for sure that any given cat couldn't possibly have been in contact with a positive cat for at least 90 days before a test, you can't really know that a negative test is accurate anyway. that's why retesting is so vital. shelters around here, until recently, only used the old-style saliva tests, which are incredibly unreliable--we brought an absolute sweetheart of a tortie into the house from there, and tho she'd tested negative (and had 4 supposedly healthy kittens, and nursed another 4 orphans), she ended up being diagnosed positive when she became very ill at about 18 months, and went to the bridge soon afterwards. in the household with her had been two kittens who'd only been about 3-months-old when they joined the household, as well as a couple of quite elderly cats--both high-risk populations, and none of the others in the household ever tested positive, luckily! (the 3-month-olds are now going on seven) the need for retesting was just not clearly enough understood, nor was the great variability in accuracy in snap tests (i think susan h found research showing a range of errors from 20-80%!). i know of two sanctuaries that never retested their "positives," who have since begun doing so, and have discovered that a fair number of their older cats who have lived exclusively with FeLVs, often those with active disease, and who have had their own bouts of serious illnesses thought to be FeLV-related, who actually were found to be negative on the IFA, even after years of constant exposure
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
ah, but the issue is, "truly negative"--not only are snap tests not that reliable even when done correctly (which isn't always the case at shelters), but unless one knows for sure that any given cat couldn't possibly have been in contact with a positive cat for at least 90 days before a test, you can't really know that a negative test is accurate anyway. that's why retesting is so vital. shelters around here, until recently, only used the old-style saliva tests, which are incredibly unreliable--we brought an absolute sweetheart of a tortie into the house from there, and tho she'd tested negative (and had 4 supposedly healthy kittens, and nursed another 4 orphans), she ended up being diagnosed positive when she became very ill at about 18 months, and went to the bridge soon afterwards. in the household with her had been two kittens who'd only been about 3-months-old when they joined the household, as well as a couple of quite elderly cats--both high-risk populations, and none of the others in the household ever tested positive, luckily! (the 3-month-olds are now going on seven) the need for retesting was just not clearly enough understood, nor was the great variability in accuracy in snap tests (i think susan h found research showing a range of errors from 20-80%!). i know of two sanctuaries that never retested their "positives," who have since begun doing so, and have discovered that a fair number of their older cats who have lived exclusively with FeLVs, often those with active disease, and who have had their own bouts of serious illnesses thought to be FeLV-related, who actually were found to be negative on the IFA, even after years of constant exposure On 12/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: actually, I think someone on this list had one who was vaccinated but turned positive. And I am pretty sure that the shelter where my cats came from, at which some of the positives live with negative ferals who are vaccinated, a few of the ferals have turned positive over the years. Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:27:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: while the vaccine is said to be only 85% effective, no one that we can find can show a documented case of a truly negative, vaccinated cat ever contracting FeLV from living closely with a positive. which makes sense, since they say that up to 70% of healthy ADULT cats who are not vaccinated can be exposed and throw the virus off. so some of us question that 85% rate, and wonder if it's not across all populations, including the high-risk ones. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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actually, I think someone on this list had one who was vaccinated but turned positive. And I am pretty sure that the shelter where my cats came from, at which some of the positives live with negative ferals who are vaccinated, a few of the ferals have turned positive over the years. Michelle In a message dated 12/26/2006 2:27:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: while the vaccine is said to be only 85% effective, no one that we can find can show a documented case of a truly negative, vaccinated cat ever contracting FeLV from living closely with a positive. which makes sense, since they say that up to 70% of healthy ADULT cats who are not vaccinated can be exposed and throw the virus off. so some of us question that 85% rate, and wonder if it's not across all populations, including the high-risk ones.
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
there are a lot of FeLVs looking for homes--two beauties just posted on the special-needs-rescue-cats list, but you may also be able to find an adult who has already been vaccinated against FeLV so you wouldn't have to go through the long wait if it'd had the full initial series. while the vaccine is said to be only 85% effective, no one that we can find can show a documented case of a truly negative, vaccinated cat ever contracting FeLV from living closely with a positive. which makes sense, since they say that up to 70% of healthy ADULT cats who are not vaccinated can be exposed and throw the virus off. so some of us question that 85% rate, and wonder if it's not across all populations, including the high-risk ones. On 12/25/06, Karen & Phil Masaoka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I'm Karen - I'm new here. I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I feel so sad for you guys. We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every year (we also lost Max a year ago). My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? I think this is a great support group. Karen -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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14 years - wow! that's incredible! Encouraging to hear - thanks! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner I've heard of 2 who lived to 14, and two who lived to 10, and one to 9. I lost one at 7, one at 5, and two younger, but have two who are over 5 years old right now (knock on wood-- I get scared even writing it). It really varies. Michelle In a message dated 12/25/2006 11:52:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I'm Karen - I'm new here. I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I feel so sad for you guys. We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every year (we also lost Max a year ago). My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? I think this is a great support group. Karen
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I've heard of 2 who lived to 14, and two who lived to 10, and one to 9. I lost one at 7, one at 5, and two younger, but have two who are over 5 years old right now (knock on wood-- I get scared even writing it). It really varies. Michelle In a message dated 12/25/2006 11:52:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I'm Karen - I'm new here. I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I feel so sad for you guys. We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every year (we also lost Max a year ago). My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? I think this is a great support group. Karen
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Hi Karen, I'm so sorry about Mr Spock. I just wanted you to know my Bailey whom I just lost this May 6th to pancreatic cancer was FeLV+ when I found him in October of 1995. He was 5 months old when I found him and positive, he had just turned 11 years old when I lost him this May. There are a few others on the list who are getting older and doing fine. The three I lost in the early 90's were 5, 7 and 9 when they succumbed to cancer and anemia, not sure when they each were infected, but I suspect my 9 year old was born with it he was sickly all his life. PS. Bailey had up to as many as 8 house mates at one time, all negative and all vaccinated in his 11 years, all living, eating, playing, grooming and on occasion having minor spats with each other, nobody ever got it from him. *OT:* My Fred is going in for his 3 month blood work check, he is my CRF guy. He has recently been losing weight and I can't entice him to eat good, it's been a struggle to keep him around 9 lbs, he has now dropped to 8lbs 13.5oz and is starting to look bony. I'm thinking of putting a feeding tube in, I don't want to wait until he is too weak and I'm in kind of a bind because my vet won't be there anymore and wouldn't be able to do the surgery at a later date. She is going to be doing house calls but won't be working at a clinic. Prayers that if he does get a feeding tube his surgery will go OK, thanks everyone. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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*Karen, bless you and your husband for opening your hearts to another FeLV kitty! * *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/25/06, Karen & Phil Masaoka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Near Denver CO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie E Caldwell Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner Where are you at Karen? Steph Karen & Phil Masaoka wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm Karen - I'm new here. > I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I > feel so sad for you guys. > We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we > got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il > Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did > very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden > decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & > such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. > And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) > > Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. > But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every > year (we also lost Max a year ago). > > My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a > great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But > we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, > says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we > would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. > Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & > then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But > Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So > we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to > whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the > FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? > > I think this is a great support group. > Karen > -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
RE: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
Near Denver CO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephanie E Caldwell Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner Where are you at Karen? Steph Karen & Phil Masaoka wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm Karen - I'm new here. > I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I > feel so sad for you guys. > We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we > got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il > Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did > very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden > decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & > such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. > And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) > > Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. > But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every > year (we also lost Max a year ago). > > My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a > great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But > we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, > says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we > would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. > Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & > then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But > Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So > we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to > whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the > FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? > > I think this is a great support group. > Karen >
Re: Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
Where are you at Karen? Steph Karen & Phil Masaoka wrote: Hi All, I'm Karen - I'm new here. I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I feel so sad for you guys. We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every year (we also lost Max a year ago). My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? I think this is a great support group. Karen
Seeking a pal for L'il Abner
Hi All, I'm Karen - I'm new here. I've been reading about poor Bandy & Tiny & have tears in my eyes. I feel so sad for you guys. We lost our baby, Mr. Spock, a week ago. He was just 6 months when we got him & was FELV+ and had a great year with us and his best pal L'il Abner (also FELV+). Then he was diagnosed with lymphoma, and he did very well with chemotherapy for almost two months; then a sudden decline. We were very saddened to lose him; he was my little baby & such a trooper to put up with everything he went through recently. And he went through so much. (Can I attach a picture to this forum?) Now Abner is super-depressed. We have to get him another pal ASAP. But it's so costly (emotionally & financially) to lose a cat every year (we also lost Max a year ago). My vet says we could get a healthy cat & she can inject him with a great FELV vaccine & he has 85% chance of not getting the virus. But we could never forgive ourselves if he got sick. So Phil, my husband, says let's get a healthy cat that's about to be euthanized and then we would at least be saving him for awhile even if he DOES get the virus. Problem is, vet says to keep new cat separate from Abner for 25 days & then she'll inject him again, and THEN they can be together. But Abner's so depressed, I don't think he can last that long. So we'll have to get another FELV cat for him -- any thoughts as to whether a 4-yr-old may live longer than a 1-yr-old diagnosed with the FELV virus? What's the longest life you know of in a FELV+ indoor cat? I think this is a great support group. Karen
