Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread wendy
Cricket lived until he was 4.5 years (and I still hold
that the FeLV would not have kicked in had he not been
stressed out by 10 extra people living in our home for
a week during Hurrican Katrina).  It's quite possible
I had him vaccinated for FeLV when he was a kitten.  I
made a note to self to check his records when I get
home, and if he was, I'll post.  

:)
Wendy


--- TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> that's very interesting, gloria--it would be neat to
> hear others chime in on
> this. you, my friend's mom... wouldn't it be a kick
> to find out that the
> vaccine actually DID have a beneficial effect, after
> all this time??
> 
> heaven knows, there hasn't been nearly enough
> research done with this virus
> to know much one way or another--a lot or anecdotal
> reports might guide new
> research if it existed, tho.
> 
> On 2/28/07, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yup, I don't vaccinate for Rabies either.  Just
> adopted out a nice Persian
> > to an older lady, we talked about it and then
> agreed not to vaccinate for
> > Rabies.  She took kitty to the vet, who promptly
> recommended (and did)
> > rabies vacination.  Ain't that life.
> >
> > I have always been of the mind NOT to vaccinate
> pos. for FELV - but like I
> > say, these are the ONLY FELV cats that I've seen
> live past 3 yrs of age.
> > Something to ponder.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help
> needed)
> >
> >
> > > Gloria,
> > > Once upon a time there was a thread on the list
> talking about the
> > possible
> > > benefits of vaccinating a pos cat.  Maybe it was
> something that you
> > posted
> > > about these particular kitties from OK?  Some
> healthy animals have
> > adverse
> > > reactions to vaccines of any sort, it may have
> more to do with the
> > stress
> > > of dealing with the vaccine then the fact that
> it is the felv vac in
> > > particular.  After all, it is never recommended
> to vaccinate an animal
> > > that is showing symptoms of any kind.  Perhaps
> the theory of not
> > > vaccinating a felv pos asymptomatic cat comes
> from the fear that the
> > > stress will activate the virus, and not
> necessarily anything in
> > particular
> > > about the felv vac in and of itself.  I wouldn't
> vac a felv pos cat for
> > > felv on purpose, not unless I could be convinced
> about the possible
> > > benefits.  I also wouldn't vac a pos cat for
> rabies because there is
> > > little chance of my house cat coming in contact
> with disease.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > Gloria Lane wrote:
> > >> BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was
> beneficial?  That's what this
> > >> lady's vet was saying.
> > >>
> > >> Gloria
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> i've never seen anything that said that
> vaccinating positive cats HURT
> > >>> them--or activated the virus, as some folks
> have claimed--just that it
> > >>> was a waste of money and vaccine
> > >>>
> > >>> i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV
> complications a year or
> > so
> > >>> ago--they'd never tested her when she came to
> them as a kitten 8 years
> > >>> or so before, so she was just regularly
> vaccinated!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/27/07, *Gloria Lane*
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I hate to use it too - I know there are
> different varieties that
> > >>> are preferable, and I've heard to avoid
> the ones that are
> > >>> combined with other vaccines.
> > >>>
> > >>> Interesting thing - I've always heard to
> avoid vaccinating
> > >>> positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've
> learned to be open to
> > >>> other options - since I took in 3 FELV
> cats from a lady in
> > >>> Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years
> ago?  They're 10-11 years
> > >>> old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for
> FELV, as a way of dealing
> > >>> with the FELV.  And they're alive today,
> and I've never had one
> > >>> live that long.  Go figure.
> > >>>
> > >>> Gloria
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread TenHouseCats

yeah, that's the thing with rabies--if your locale requires it, and you do
NOT have up-to-date vaccinations, all of your animals can be confiscated.
however, in the case of elderly or impaired cats, most jurisdictions will
accept exemption letters from a vet.

On 2/28/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It is against the law here to not vaccinate against rabies.  I could have
my rescue closed down if I transferred an unvaccinated cat, either to
another rescue or to an adopter.  Otherwise I wouldn't vaccinate against
rabies either.

On 2/28/07, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yup, I don't vaccinate for Rabies either.  Just adopted out a nice
> Persian
> to an older lady, we talked about it and then agreed not to vaccinate
> for
> Rabies.  She took kitty to the vet, who promptly recommended (and did)
> rabies vacination.  Ain't that life.
>
> I have always been of the mind NOT to vaccinate pos. for FELV - but like
> I
> say, these are the ONLY FELV cats that I've seen live past 3 yrs of age.
>
> Something to ponder.
>
> Gloria
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: < felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)
>
>
> > Gloria,
> > Once upon a time there was a thread on the list talking about the
> possible
> > benefits of vaccinating a pos cat.  Maybe it was something that you
> posted
> > about these particular kitties from OK?  Some healthy animals have
> adverse
> > reactions to vaccines of any sort, it may have more to do with the
> stress
> > of dealing with the vaccine then the fact that it is the felv vac in
> > particular.  After all, it is never recommended to vaccinate an animal
> > that is showing symptoms of any kind.  Perhaps the theory of not
> > vaccinating a felv pos asymptomatic cat comes from the fear that the
> > stress will activate the virus, and not necessarily anything in
> particular
> > about the felv vac in and of itself.  I wouldn't vac a felv pos cat
> for
> > felv on purpose, not unless I could be convinced about the possible
> > benefits.  I also wouldn't vac a pos cat for rabies because there is
> > little chance of my house cat coming in contact with disease.
> > Nina
> >
> > Gloria Lane wrote:
> >> BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what
> this
> >> lady's vet was saying.
> >>
> >> Gloria
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:
> >>
> >>> i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats
> HURT
> >>> them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that
> it
> >>> was a waste of money and vaccine
> >>>
> >>> i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or
> so
> >>> ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8
> years
> >>> or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/27/07, *Gloria Lane* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that
> >>> are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are
> >>> combined with other vaccines.
> >>>
> >>> Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating
> >>> positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to
>
> >>> other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in
> >>> Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago?  They're 10-11
> years
> >>> old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing
> >>> with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had one
> >>> live that long.  Go figure.
> >>>
> >>> Gloria
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread Kelley Saveika

It is against the law here to not vaccinate against rabies.  I could have my
rescue closed down if I transferred an unvaccinated cat, either to another
rescue or to an adopter.  Otherwise I wouldn't vaccinate against rabies
either.

On 2/28/07, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yup, I don't vaccinate for Rabies either.  Just adopted out a nice Persian
to an older lady, we talked about it and then agreed not to vaccinate for
Rabies.  She took kitty to the vet, who promptly recommended (and did)
rabies vacination.  Ain't that life.

I have always been of the mind NOT to vaccinate pos. for FELV - but like I
say, these are the ONLY FELV cats that I've seen live past 3 yrs of age.
Something to ponder.

Gloria




- Original Message -
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)


> Gloria,
> Once upon a time there was a thread on the list talking about the
possible
> benefits of vaccinating a pos cat.  Maybe it was something that you
posted
> about these particular kitties from OK?  Some healthy animals have
adverse
> reactions to vaccines of any sort, it may have more to do with the
stress
> of dealing with the vaccine then the fact that it is the felv vac in
> particular.  After all, it is never recommended to vaccinate an animal
> that is showing symptoms of any kind.  Perhaps the theory of not
> vaccinating a felv pos asymptomatic cat comes from the fear that the
> stress will activate the virus, and not necessarily anything in
particular
> about the felv vac in and of itself.  I wouldn't vac a felv pos cat for
> felv on purpose, not unless I could be convinced about the possible
> benefits.  I also wouldn't vac a pos cat for rabies because there is
> little chance of my house cat coming in contact with disease.
> Nina
>
> Gloria Lane wrote:
>> BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what this
>> lady's vet was saying.
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:
>>
>>> i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats HURT
>>> them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that it
>>> was a waste of money and vaccine
>>>
>>> i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or
so
>>> ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 years
>>> or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/07, *Gloria Lane* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that
>>> are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are
>>> combined with other vaccines.
>>>
>>> Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating
>>> positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to
>>> other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in
>>> Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago?  They're 10-11 years
>>> old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing
>>> with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had one
>>> live that long.  Go figure.
>>>
>>> Gloria
>>>
>
>
>






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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread TenHouseCats

that's very interesting, gloria--it would be neat to hear others chime in on
this. you, my friend's mom... wouldn't it be a kick to find out that the
vaccine actually DID have a beneficial effect, after all this time??

heaven knows, there hasn't been nearly enough research done with this virus
to know much one way or another--a lot or anecdotal reports might guide new
research if it existed, tho.

On 2/28/07, Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yup, I don't vaccinate for Rabies either.  Just adopted out a nice Persian
to an older lady, we talked about it and then agreed not to vaccinate for
Rabies.  She took kitty to the vet, who promptly recommended (and did)
rabies vacination.  Ain't that life.

I have always been of the mind NOT to vaccinate pos. for FELV - but like I
say, these are the ONLY FELV cats that I've seen live past 3 yrs of age.
Something to ponder.

Gloria




- Original Message -
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)


> Gloria,
> Once upon a time there was a thread on the list talking about the
possible
> benefits of vaccinating a pos cat.  Maybe it was something that you
posted
> about these particular kitties from OK?  Some healthy animals have
adverse
> reactions to vaccines of any sort, it may have more to do with the
stress
> of dealing with the vaccine then the fact that it is the felv vac in
> particular.  After all, it is never recommended to vaccinate an animal
> that is showing symptoms of any kind.  Perhaps the theory of not
> vaccinating a felv pos asymptomatic cat comes from the fear that the
> stress will activate the virus, and not necessarily anything in
particular
> about the felv vac in and of itself.  I wouldn't vac a felv pos cat for
> felv on purpose, not unless I could be convinced about the possible
> benefits.  I also wouldn't vac a pos cat for rabies because there is
> little chance of my house cat coming in contact with disease.
> Nina
>
> Gloria Lane wrote:
>> BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what this
>> lady's vet was saying.
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:
>>
>>> i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats HURT
>>> them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that it
>>> was a waste of money and vaccine
>>>
>>> i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or
so
>>> ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 years
>>> or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/27/07, *Gloria Lane* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that
>>> are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are
>>> combined with other vaccines.
>>>
>>> Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating
>>> positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to
>>> other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in
>>> Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago?  They're 10-11 years
>>> old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing
>>> with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had one
>>> live that long.  Go figure.
>>>
>>> Gloria
>>>
>
>
>






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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Yup, I don't vaccinate for Rabies either.  Just adopted out a nice Persian 
to an older lady, we talked about it and then agreed not to vaccinate for 
Rabies.  She took kitty to the vet, who promptly recommended (and did) 
rabies vacination.  Ain't that life.


I have always been of the mind NOT to vaccinate pos. for FELV - but like I 
say, these are the ONLY FELV cats that I've seen live past 3 yrs of age. 
Something to ponder.


Gloria




- Original Message - 
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)



Gloria,
Once upon a time there was a thread on the list talking about the possible 
benefits of vaccinating a pos cat.  Maybe it was something that you posted 
about these particular kitties from OK?  Some healthy animals have adverse 
reactions to vaccines of any sort, it may have more to do with the stress 
of dealing with the vaccine then the fact that it is the felv vac in 
particular.  After all, it is never recommended to vaccinate an animal 
that is showing symptoms of any kind.  Perhaps the theory of not 
vaccinating a felv pos asymptomatic cat comes from the fear that the 
stress will activate the virus, and not necessarily anything in particular 
about the felv vac in and of itself.  I wouldn't vac a felv pos cat for 
felv on purpose, not unless I could be convinced about the possible 
benefits.  I also wouldn't vac a pos cat for rabies because there is 
little chance of my house cat coming in contact with disease.

Nina

Gloria Lane wrote:
BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what this 
lady's vet was saying.


Gloria



On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:

i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats HURT 
them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that it 
was a waste of money and vaccine


i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or so 
ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 years 
or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!



On 2/27/07, *Gloria Lane* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that
are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are
combined with other vaccines.

Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating
positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to
other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in
Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago?  They're 10-11 years
old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing
with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had one
live that long.  Go figure.

Gloria










Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread TenHouseCats

no, i've never heard that it was of any benefit.


On 2/28/07, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what this
lady's vet was saying.
Gloria



On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:

i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats HURT
them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that it was a
waste of money and vaccine

i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or so
ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 years or so
before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!


On 2/27/07, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that are
> preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are combined with other
> vaccines.
> Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating positives
> with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to other options - since
> I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years
> ago?  They're 10-11 years old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a
> way of dealing with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had
> one live that long.  Go figure.
>
> Gloria
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Kelly L wrote:
>
> At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I *hate* to use. I have
> had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it. I dread using
> it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase they do have a
> reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it could be worse i agree. I
> would not feel comfortable mixing a known positive with non vaccinated
> negatives and if finances was an issue as the test can be expensive I would
> error on the side of caution,
> We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes.
> Kelly
>
> the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one cat
> that was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet accidently gave
> him the vaccine, he went down hill immediately and then diedNOW, I doubt
> there was a connection, but. it was my vets who said don't vaccinate the
> positives and this was an honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them
> en mass for vaccines...)
>
> so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate.
>
> Tracy
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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread Nina

Gloria,
Once upon a time there was a thread on the list talking about the 
possible benefits of vaccinating a pos cat.  Maybe it was something that 
you posted about these particular kitties from OK?  Some healthy animals 
have adverse reactions to vaccines of any sort, it may have more to do 
with the stress of dealing with the vaccine then the fact that it is the 
felv vac in particular.  After all, it is never recommended to vaccinate 
an animal that is showing symptoms of any kind.  Perhaps the theory of 
not vaccinating a felv pos asymptomatic cat comes from the fear that the 
stress will activate the virus, and not necessarily anything in 
particular about the felv vac in and of itself.  I wouldn't vac a felv 
pos cat for felv on purpose, not unless I could be convinced about the 
possible benefits.  I also wouldn't vac a pos cat for rabies because 
there is little chance of my house cat coming in contact with disease.

Nina

Gloria Lane wrote:
BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what this 
lady's vet was saying.


Gloria



On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:

i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats 
HURT them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just 
that it was a waste of money and vaccine


i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or 
so ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 
years or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!



On 2/27/07, *Gloria Lane* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that
are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are
combined with other vaccines.

Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating
positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to
other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in
Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago?  They're 10-11 years
old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing
with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had one
live that long.  Go figure.

Gloria






Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-28 Thread Gloria Lane
BUT, MC, Have you ever heard that it was beneficial?  That's what  
this lady's vet was saying.


Gloria



On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, TenHouseCats wrote:

i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats  
HURT them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just  
that it was a waste of money and vaccine


i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year  
or so ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a  
kitten 8 years or so before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!



On 2/27/07, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that  
are preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are combined  
with other vaccines.


Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating  
positives with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to  
other options - since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in  
Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years ago?  They're 10-11 years  
old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing  
with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had one  
live that long.  Go figure.


Gloria



On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Kelly L wrote:


At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote:


Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I hate to use. I  
have had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it.  
I dread using it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase  
they do have a reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it  
could be worse i agree. I would not feel comfortable mixing a  
known positive with non vaccinated negatives and if finances was  
an issue as the test can be expensive I would error on the side of  
caution,

We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes.
Kelly

the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one  
cat that was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet  
accidently gave him the vaccine, he went down hill immediately  
and then diedNOW, I doubt there was a connection, but. it  
was my vets who said don't vaccinate the positives and this was  
an honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them en mass for  
vaccines...)


so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate.

Tracy
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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-27 Thread TenHouseCats

i've never seen anything that said that vaccinating positive cats HURT
them--or activated the virus, as some folks have claimed--just that it was a
waste of money and vaccine

i have a friend whose mom's cat died of FeLV complications a year or so
ago--they'd never tested her when she came to them as a kitten 8 years or so
before, so she was just regularly vaccinated!


On 2/27/07, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that are
preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are combined with other
vaccines.
Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating positives with
the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to other options - since I
took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a couple of years
ago?  They're 10-11 years old now.  Her vet vaccinated them for FELV, as a
way of dealing with the FELV.  And they're alive today, and I've never had
one live that long.  Go figure.

Gloria



On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Kelly L wrote:

At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote:


Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I *hate* to use. I have
had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it. I dread using
it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase they do have a
reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it could be worse i agree. I
would not feel comfortable mixing a known positive with non vaccinated
negatives and if finances was an issue as the test can be expensive I would
error on the side of caution,
We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes.
Kelly

the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one cat that
was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet accidently gave him
the vaccine, he went down hill immediately and then diedNOW, I doubt
there was a connection, but. it was my vets who said don't vaccinate the
positives and this was an honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them
en mass for vaccines...)

so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate.

Tracy
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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-27 Thread Gloria Lane
I hate to use it too - I know there are different varieties that are  
preferable, and I've heard to avoid the ones that are combined with  
other vaccines.


Interesting thing - I've always heard to avoid vaccinating positives  
with the FELV vaccine.  But I've learned to be open to other options  
- since I took in 3 FELV cats from a lady in Oklahoma. Hmmm, maybe a  
couple of years ago?  They're 10-11 years old now.  Her vet  
vaccinated them for FELV, as a way of dealing with the FELV.  And  
they're alive today, and I've never had one live that long.  Go figure.


Gloria



On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:41 PM, Kelly L wrote:


At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote:


Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I hate to use. I  
have had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it.  
I dread using it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase  
they do have a reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it  
could be worse i agree. I would not feel comfortable mixing a known  
positive with non vaccinated negatives and if finances was an issue  
as the test can be expensive I would error on the side of caution,

We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes.
Kelly

the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one  
cat that was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet  
accidently gave him the vaccine, he went down hill immediately and  
then diedNOW, I doubt there was a connection, but. it was  
my vets who said don't vaccinate the positives and this was an  
honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them en mass for  
vaccines...)


so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate.

Tracy
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Re: Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-26 Thread Kelly L

At 06:29 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote:


Oh I totally understand. The FELV vaccine is one I hate to use. I 
have had very healthy negative cats have horrible reactions to it. I 
dread using it, and I make sure I have the necessary meds incase they 
do have a reaction. and with an immune compromised cat it could be 
worse i agree. I would not feel comfortable mixing a known positive 
with non vaccinated negatives and if finances was an issue as the 
test can be expensive I would error on the side of caution,

We just do the best we can and weight the potential outcomes.
Kelly

the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one cat 
that was very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet 
accidently gave him the vaccine, he went down hill immediately and 
then diedNOW, I doubt there was a connection, but. it was my 
vets who said don't vaccinate the positives and this was an honest 
mix up (I have many cats and brought them en mass for vaccines...)


so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate.

Tracy
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Vacinating postivies (was Re: Help needed)

2007-02-26 Thread Tracy Weese
the main reason I don't like to vaccinate positives is I had one cat that was 
very healthy despite the FeLV+ status and the vet accidently gave him the 
vaccine, he went down hill immediately and then diedNOW, I doubt there was 
a connection, but. it was my vets who said don't vaccinate the positives 
and this was an honest mix up (I have many cats and brought them en mass for 
vaccines...)

so if I know they are positive, I don't vaccinate.

Tracy